If I told you she found a real dead bird, dipped it in gold and stuck it on her chest, would any of you even blink in surprise?
For all the bitching and moaning about a tyrant President over the last four years, maybe imperial purple is not a good idea.
The boundless hate in her eyes. The thing on her chest. I know it has killed before and it will kill again. And the same color as Kamala. Nothing could convince me that America’s pettiest crone didn’t do this on purpose.
Someone didn’t get to purple memo. Did they leave her out on purpose? Rowr, cat fight!
The husband that stubbornly refused to change his name. The step-son and his kooky art school sister with the virginity glasses. (She makes her own clothes! Quirky!)
Joe and Jill. Wait, Dr. Jill Biden. Wait, now she wants it in all caps. DR. JILL BIDEN. Joe in basic black; a nice suit to bury him in. And DR. JILL BIDEN is wearing something made from old curtains and a couch found out on the street.
Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta and her third nose job
The Hunger Games imagery is fitting.
Its hilarious how they think they’re the rebels.
For all the bitching and moaning about a tyrant President over the last four years, maybe imperial purple is not a good idea.
The empress has no robes.
Eeeeewwww!
Fine, here’s something relevant to chew on.
Someone made this observation 30 years ago and now its tossed out like conventional wisdom.
Yeah Red State cities are blue, and vice versa. There is still a long difference between Salt Lake City Blue and Portland blue, and LA Red and South Dakota Red. I think decentralization could still work.
My opinion is that people would have to hash that sort of thing out post-violence. I think northern Ireland style terrorism is more likely than US Civil War.
(can you tell I dint read the article before commenting) ?
Saying that the US is not uniformly sorted in its partisanship therefor there can’t be a clean division between the states like there was in the Civil War is ignoring the fact that the pre-Civil War US politics was not exactly tidy. Exhibit A: the county results of the 1860 US presidential election. How clean were the lines drawn, really?
The vibe i get from this writer however is that there is no solution that could be proposed that he would call ‘feasable’ or ‘realistic’ and not outright reject. I mean he’s already rejected the most simple and easiest to understand option, that of separation.
Dreher is such a goddamned drama queen.
We keep coming back to this: these people might be intellectually conservative, or intellectually in favor of liberty, but they make their living in the world of words, of abstractions, and they don’t believe they will ever be prohibited from making their living in this way. They don’t actually believe that in America, they will ever be prohibited from writing and speaking as they wish. So they don’t care when the liberties of great unwashed masses are infringed upon.
In 2020, Rod Dreher didn’t miss a paycheck, because the big con used by the Establishment to get rid of the Trump economy did not affect him at all. He kept writing his columns, he kept getting paid. So he minces and prattles and natters.
Ashli Babbit owned bars and a pool supply store in California with her husband. The big con used by the Establishment to get rid of the Trump economy was going to reduce her to poverty. So she falls into some crazy nuttery about the Magic Good Guys in the Deep State and gets herself killed.
But hey, Rod Dreher gets to sneer about people who eat at Olive Garden so its all good.
Amen, Viking.
If we get separation, it won’t be based on existing state boundaries.
Sure, realistically many blue states would loose lots of area to rural areas wanting to peel off, and there may be a few red states that loose certain urban areas that join up with the blue states. But the dismissal is that of ‘Your solution isn’t 100% perfect, so we must reject it, ignoring that its imperfection is still better than the status quo.
The solution is to stick to the Constitution but that will never happen.
there is no solution that could be proposed that he would call ‘feasable’ or ‘realistic’ and not outright reject.
Exactly this, The GOP establishment are simply controlled opposition and just another face of the single party rule in Washington. The Romney and NR crowd desire everything the Dems want, including dissolving the 1st and 2nd Amendments. They give lip service to abhorring the Dem agenda while their actions promote it.
American into Northern Ireland, circa 1969-98
Or turning into America circa 1965-1972. You remember.
Race riots in major cities.
Anti-war protests across the country.
2500 bombs set off by radicals.
Yeah, that country. The one I thought was in my distant past.
“Take your militia down to blow up a Hardee’s to get rid of the pedophiles hiding in the Dumpster”
The POV of the militant or militant adjacent right is that, at some point, the government will commit some kind of bright red line act of tyranny, and then all true patriots will know it is the time to Water The Tree and that’s when it’s on. That all true Oath Keepers will resign from the police and army and form into ragtag bands of resistance fighters, if they don’t directly march on the Evil Capitol itself.
If that day ever comes, I don’t think Hardees is the target.
And in the meantime, sellers of pizzas will just have to watch their backs. Because that is what Q spawns.
There will always be nuts, and some nuts will be violent. That’s the price we pay for living in a somewhat free society. But it’s a fucking joke to have commenters on the Right fretting about these nuts when the Congress is planning on passing Patriot Act 2: Suppress the Deplorables.
Like, at some point people need to listen to what powerful members of Congress and the new President are saying. They are not cooling down tensions, they are not deescalating. They are talking about “insurrectionists” and “domestic terrorists”. If they actually wanted to cool things down, they’d appoint an election integrity board and pardon anyone who nonviolently entered the Capitol on 1/6, only prosecuting the people who actually committed acts of violence.
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I agree. For every anodyne Biden statement about “unity” or “healing”, he has a diatribe about punishing the evildoers and using the apparatus of the state in ever more intrusive ways to do so.
So long as they keep ramping up the hysteria to tighten their grip on power, people are going to start to take them seriously.
QAnon didn’t close down my gym or bankrupt my favorite bar. “We can centrally plan the lives of 330 million people to achieve a new paradise for all” is every bit as whackjob a conspiracy theory as “gay pedophile pizza parlors” if not more so, but is far more likely to be embraced by decision makers. So you’ll have to forgive me for which group I’m more concerned about at the moment.
If they actually wanted to cool things down, they’d appoint an election integrity board and pardon anyone who nonviolently entered the Capitol on 1/6, only prosecuting the people who actually committed acts of violence.
Indeed. Washington pardoned everyone convicted (at the federal level) of involvement in the Whiskey Rebellion, an actual insurrection that he himself personally led troops to disperse. In contrast, our modern leaders cower in fear while baying for blood.
I believe in a free society, and sure, there will be lunatics that do lunatic things. I’m just not going to call them anything other than what they are – lunatic.
Especially if they so bigotedly refuse to cater gay weddings
What is this “Q” that has everybody’s bloomers in a sheepshank?
Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset.
Piss Hookers.
Who is crazier?
How well did that Thermodorian shit work out for the French? Napoleon is the least bad to this shithead?
Hey now, those are truly awesome pastries.
Is that bird droppings over that one jacket? (She makes her own clothes! Quirky!)….oh never mind.
Where’s Astra?
Not the place for the little people. I assume the intern Inaugural Party is down in some dank basement, a single fluorescent light flickering, huddled around a card table, passing a bottle of Midori back and forth.
A Steelcase government issue desk from the Eisenhower administration. Those things will not die, and often find their way into janitorial spaces in government buildings.
Oh, yes, yes. I know those well. Built to withstand a direct nuclear strike, because we are going to need plenty of desks when America has to rebuild our desolate wasteland.
What else am i going to use to build my weapons workbench?
Do you even Fallout bro?
Give me that damn typewriter! And the desk fan! I need screws and gears, damn you!
:hides stash of duct tape:
LOL.
I feel like I’m aluminum farming too much.
That fish cannery up on the northeast corner of the map. So many aluminum trays. Like 40 or 50.
Ayup. And Corvega.
Well, how can there be a bureaucracy without the bureau?
“In case of a nuclear attack, the protection of records is essential, if this country is to carry on its economy, and maintain our way of life.”
TANKER DESKS!!!!! I ❤️❤️❤️ them.
See?
I wish I had a tanker desk. I do not. I have a 70s Steelcase, which is lovely and I love it, but it’s not a tanker.
This is similar to my desk at work. The office has 8 of them that I have been told were bought used in the early ’60s. My son is using the same desk his Grandfather and Great-Grandfather sat at.
https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/9443/45/9443_1343511559_2.jpg
I thought all those characters in the Kauwmolla story were her imaginary friends.
“Our betters”
I’m proudly deplorable.
JOE”S NOT WEARING A MASK!
Now we know how his term ends.
Also if the vaccine works.
Oh they flaunted that whole “rules for thee, not for me” quite a bit. I say good for them. Cause we know its bullshit.
That would be the lead on CNN if it were Trump. “Trump attempts to murder attendees at his own inauguration! That bad man will stop at nothing!”
The thing on her chest.
Very fitting – covers the tentacles without really hiding them.
Pretty sure they *are* the tentacles. Chameleonic.
Like a Portuguese Man o’ War.
Alternate caption to Bill Clinton pic: “Smell the Glove!”
At least his eyes were open there, TV coverage had a shot cut to him and he was nodding off as Joe was inspiring the nation. I don’t think there was another after that.
For all the bitching and moaning about a tyrant President over the last four years, maybe imperial purple is not a good idea.
She should have worn chain mail gloves, to really set the outfit off.
Thanos’ gauntlet?
I wonder what its like to view DU four years ago, which provided not snark like here, but just hatred.
I think people here don’t like the outcome, and see how it can/will be bad, but actual hatred, I don’t see it. We must be doing this wrong.
Clearly. Didn’t anybody read the instructions?
DU was taken down by a hack on the night of the election “GOD EMPEROR TRUMP”-no joke.
It took a while to comeback.
Much gnashing, much wailing.
LOL
They probably shit their pants.
OMG, that’s delicious.
I wonder where DU is hosted. It seems that the could inspire far more violence than Parler.
I have avoided any inauguration coverage today, but seeing those pictures is a stark reminder that we have an aristocracy / royalty in this country, and it’s stomach churning.
You dare cast your gaze upon our rulers?
Wait til you hear the cheering over Harris’ nephew wearing a $10K pair of Jordans.
I got an angry text from my gf about her coworkers listening to it and throwing a party.
It’s like a combination of the Oscars and a royal wedding, only everyone is really unattractive.
Hillary couldn’t be bothered to change out of her pajamas, I guess.
She always looks like she’s wearing someone else’s clothes.
She is.
She always looks like she’s wearing someone else
Hey, SF. Thx for the Wednesday Links Chick. She reaaly does it for me. Smile every time
Yes. I think she and I could have some fun together.
Dr. Jill Biden, OBE
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya2xifdO_l0"Did I do that?
still works but really botched that tagging.
That’s some serious dandruff on Harris’s daughter’s shoulders.
Didn’t anybody read the instructions?
Step one. Discard the instructions.
Sugarfree is our Joan Rivers.
Well, I see Mooch figured out a good color for her. For once. I wish she’d let her hair go natural and wear a hippie scarf (for realz, I think she’d look much better).
Who are you to criticize Big Mike’s fashion sense! I’ll have you know that all of the major fashion mags have declared her the most stylish first lady EVAH!
I know what they SAY, but I’ve got eyes and a nose for bullshit.
She’s not ugly. She is plain. She has potential. Too bad no one has been able to style her to it.
No, you’re right. She’s not ugly. And there’s something just really impolite about discussing the attractiveness or ugliness of poiticians’ wives. Sure, some are ugly. Some are hot. I know a lot of hot people and a lot of ugly people. I just think it’s a kind of ugliness to take shitty pot shots like a lot of people do.
I mean, she may be an awful person and rotten to the core inside, but to focus on the superficial is…just unseemly.
Fine, I’ll say it.
Jill Biden is attractive for an old lady.
Dude.
Please report for your drug test.
Report to the Doctor?
I don’t really care what she looks like – I think she’s an average looking woman (if a little on the hulking side). I take potshots at her because the press insists, without actual evidence, that she is gorgeous and stylish.
She ceased to be just a politician’s wife when she started haranguing people about organic school lunches and other nonsense.
And I agree with Chipwooder. The compliant press put her looks into play with the constant insistence that she was gorgeous and “omg her arms!!!”
The arms thing was a net negative, IMO.
I find Melania unattractive. She has an uncanny valley face and her eyes don’t fit her face.
She also doesn’t seem very approachable, but I don’t blame her for that. Her personality is probably already standoffish/shy (take your pick) and her modeling profession probably makes her distance herself from people emotionally as much as possible. Furthermore, she didn’t want the job. She’s doing the best she can with what she’s got.
As for style, she’s got that in the tank.
Also, I find her ability to speak 16 languages to be breathtaking.
I am unimpressed with the looks of any of the Trump women. It’s so… I dunno… generic? Then again, I never saw what the big deal was with Jackie Kennedy.
Kyrsten Sinema and Tulsi are OK. I can’t think of anyone else in US politics worth looking at.
I hear you. I get sick of hearing how beautiful she is when I can see with my own eyes. She’s not ugly. Calling her Chewbacca is unfair. But beautiful she ain’t. It’s another case of the soft bigotry of low expectations.
I’ve always seen it as a kind of “I’m in the in group” signaling. X person is good and exceptional, so by accepting her beauty and pronouncing it, you are in a way professing that belief to other people.
Likewise with the ‘Chewbacca’ thing (i never really got where that got started), if you think she is bad then you signal that by denying any positive attributes.
Politics scratches the basest parts of the human psychology.
Politics
scratchesis rooted in the basest parts of the human psychology.FTFY
I’ll accept that edit.
Likewise with the ‘Chewbacca’ thing (i never really got where that got started)
It comes from the fact that she’s big (for a woman) and she once wore her hair parted in the middle that made it look a bit like Chewbacca’s ‘do. It’s a stretch, but not something out of nowhere.
Is she big or is Barack waifish?
Yes.
Well, Google says Barack is 6’1″, so more of a beanpole than a waif. In any event, if Barack is still 6’1″, which is taller than 93% of men, then Michelle is big. I’m sure she’s in heels, but that picture above makes her look rather hulking in caparison to Barack.
6’1″, which is taller than 93% of men,
*lords 6’1″ privilege over 93% of other men*
Seriously though, 93%? I’d have thought I was in the 60th percentile.
That statistic can’t possibly be true. 6’1″ is short.
I looked it up, not quite 93%, but close enough. 6’1″ is 91st percentile for men in the US
Where are all these shimps hiding?
Should I start looking down when I’m outside?
When i was 6’4″, people thought I was a big guy, and people in theaters and stadiums would groan when I sat in front of them. But now that I’m 5’10” no one ever complains. So I am not surprised that 6-1 is 93rd percentile.
To Chewbacca,
(Sorry, couldn’t resist some snark on this of all days.)
YOU’RE AN ANIMAL!!
/runs off sobbing
Guilty as charged.
I’ll accept that.
Chew tabacca.
Chew tabacca.
Chew tabacca.
Spit.
Mojeaux’s WearHouse. You’ll love the way you look; she guarantees it.
Don’t laugh, Chicks are good at dressing men, Right Mo?
Well, the pallet is limited in any case and it’s easy enough to dress a dude for an occasion, although in some cases it may take custom tailoring.
It’s harder to dress women. Mooch is not an easy woman to style.
palette*
All my books start out as fashion pr0n.
And let me the first to say, fuck all these people, forever and ever.
If I told you she found a real dead bird, dipped it in gold and stuck it on her chest, would any of you even blink in surprise?
Trump forgot his microphone. I guess they’ll have to UPS it to him in Florida.
Just wait until they figure out he threw a handful of raw shrimp up into the HVAC ductwork.
That picture of her pansuitedness… GAH, WHY DID I LOOK?
You can’t turn away. It draws you in. Caresses you. Smothers you.
CLOMP…
CLOMP…
CLOMP DOWN THE STAIRS
Cthulu? Thank God for masks for once,
They always ask why she never dumped Bill after the Presidency, but I ask the reverse. He doesn’t need her at all. He’s no longer doing anything important in his life. He should drop the dead weight and ball-out until his heart stops whilst humping a 17-year old on some private island.
Oh I am sure you will be getting everything you want.
In his remarks Wednesday, Rouhani defined the attack on Soleimani, not Soleimani’s years of violence, the true terrorism, and expressed hope Biden would revert to policies more friendly to Tehran.
“We had [never before] seen a US president explicitly announcing that he had assassinated a senior military commander who was a guest in a third country,” Rouhani said, according to Iran’s state-run PressTV. “With what this stupid terrorist did, ‘state terrorism’ was inscribed on the forehead of the United States. Today is the end of the political life of the individual who violated international law and [US] obligations for four years.”
It’s all so tiresomely predictable:
Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot
Wow, Politico Is No Longer Covering Up Biden’s Cognitive Decline
I guess WaPo’s trying to demonstrate that they’re not really tankies.
I need a drink.
Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot
But did he use Russia to pre-plan the attack?
Well he was on the phone with Putin if we are to believe The Cackle and the Bones
From the Washington Post article:
Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states
Are they militia members or not? Or do you not know what the word “militia” means? Or did you swallow the lie by the gun control crowd that “militia” only means The National Guard?
I’d love to edit these little shits. I’d red-line until they started crying every damn day.
The first article…won’t matter. Those groups were inspired or driven by Trump no matter what.
The second article…won’t matter because people cannot look past what happened yesterday.
We had [never before] seen a US president explicitly announcing that he had assassinated a senior military commander who was a guest in a third country
Obama haz a sad.
He mostly stuck to American citizens. Piker.
“Bin Laden is Dead and Detroit is Alive”
He preferred killing civilians to uniformed personnel.
I never could figure out what he had against Weddings and funerals.
Hugh Grant and Andie MacDowell?
Sounds racist.
President-elect Joe Biden’s administration will rescind on his first day in office President Trump’s “1776 Commission,” an educational initiative designed to teach U.S. history from a patriotic perspective. …
Biden is expected to rescind the commission as part of a day one executive order to “advance racial equity.” The Biden-Harris transition team said in a Wednesday press release that the 1776 Commission “has sought to erase America’s history of racial injustice.”
The two-year 1776 Commission would have published a report on the core principles of the nation and advised the federal government on how to prioritize founding principles in grants and other activities.
The executive order will also reverse a Trump-era policy limiting the ability of federal agencies, contractors and grantees to implement diversity and inclusion training.
“Additional actions in the coming weeks will restore and reinvigorate the federal government’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility,” the press release states.
Double down on hating whitey.
Unity
Healing
For all Americans.
Paging Barfman…
“limiting the ability of federal agencies, contractors and grantees to implement diversity and inclusion training.”
It was targeted specifically at Critical Race Theory. I wonder if WaPo will count this as one of Biden’s lies.
The problem with playing the same game as the left is that they usually are better at it.
It didn’t need a new commission to rebut the alt-history from the NYT – the best way would’ve been combing the Times archives (starting with what the 1619 project said before it was surreptitiously edited).
Trump could play their own game just as well as they could. But except for him, Rand Paul, and maybe a dozen others, none of the alleged Republicans cared to play too. They’d rather be saps than try. Then even when he did play, the courts would smack it down, something I strongly suspect won’t happen with many of Biden’s EOs.
What’s with the gold microphone?
Joke’s on you, that’s a sex toy.
Stolen from Liberace, of course,
My predictions for Biden admin, continued.
1) It’s not going to be as bad as many here think.
2) It will be worse, in some ways, than we think.
3) I am, and would exhort you, to not give it more concern than it deserves. Our lives are going to go on and it would be best if you seek the happiness, rather than focus on the things you hate. I see what Trump has done to many of my friends, and their lives have been miserable for the last 4 years. Don’t let that happen to you.
I’m used to surviving presidential administrations that I don’t like or agree with. I’ve never lived under one.
Conservatives and libertarians survived 8 years of Obama, and 4 years of Trump, none of which were libertarian in character.
The progs survived 4 years of Trump and 8 years of Bush.
The Biden admin would have to be truly exceptional in awful ways to make things markedly worse than they are now, and to do more than slightly steepen the slippery slope that we have been on for decades.
It’s not going to get any better in the next 4 years, and there’s a chance it won’t get too much worse, if people can keep their heads together.
I take them at their word.
And their word is frightening.
The lack of coming back to the center after the primaries was eye-raising. That, in combination with the growing intolerance in our culture and the covid bullshit, has me watching very carefully. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we settled back into a relatively quiet period of months either until the left oversteps their bounds or the economy spirals into the mountainside.
“The lack of coming back to the center after the primaries was eye-raising”
They didn’t need to this time. During every other election year, the media playbook was to contextualize and explain and cushion all the Democrat scandals and gaffes. This year they just straight up refused to cover stuff that would hurt the Dems. The Hunter Biden stuff most notably.
They used to bring everything up at the debates, even if they would run interference and attack alongside the Dem. This time they straight up ignored topics that would hurt Biden, stuff like guns and Trump’s foreign policy.
Why did Trump fall for it? He could have brought up anything in his answers. Politicians and C.E.O.s under attack are good at deflection. Forty + years in business and Trump never learned.
I mean shit, gas is already up .40 cents a gallon just since November. They haven’t even started their Green New Deal nonsense. They’re talking about new domestic terror legislation. They’re talking about a new domestic security service. They’re talking about even more insane levels of spending on top of what they did last year. Explicitly writing racial preferences into the federal money stream. All kinds of other insanity.
I think they mean to complete the revolution this time around.
I grew up on Rush Limbaugh. He was all about exaggerating and mind reading. “So and so wants to take away your rights.” A lot like they did to Trump, and as it turned out Trump never did those things, just like the left never did.
This time seems way different, though. People are outright saying things I would never imagine, and tech censorship has already started.
The Biden admin would have to be truly exceptional in awful ways to make things markedly worse than they are now, and to do more than slightly steepen the slippery slope that we have been on for decades.
Domestic Anti-Terror Act (PATRIOT Act 2.0)?
“The progs survived 4 years of Trump”
What? Millions died due to a lack of Net Neutrality alone.
“Our lives are going to go on” – that is what I keep telling myself, but never underestimate the capacity for human suffering.
At this point, I would welcome just tiniest respite from the Covid and political nightmare. I am thankful for Glibs but visit more rarely as I find it challenging to wade through the cut/paste of CNN articles, tweets, various other political crap without becoming angry.
1) It rarely is.
2) It usually is.
3) Amen. And awoman.
I have come to this conclusion also.
But really it comes down to this: What choice do we really have except to lead our lives the best way we can manage? There will always be external forces at play that we must skirt, jump, duck, and/or embrace.
I don’t know, they seem somewhat desperate not to let this crisis go to waste.
I am not too worried about a BIDEN administration.
I’d love to ignore politics and go about enjoying my life. Except most of the things I enjoy doing have been declared illegal. And the new Prez wants to triple down on all that.
Let me know when I can go to a concert again and then I’ll go back to pretending to be above politics.
I imagine all those people were insufferable toward the staff. Like, they all wanted a bowl of M&M’s with the orange ones removed in their limo.
That M&M thing isn’t necessarily being insufferable. Musicians and whatnot who need things done a certain way for safety reasons put a clause like that in the contract so that if they see that clause isn’t adhered to, the more important safety ones may have been mishandled too.
I’ve never heard of that, interesting.
Correct.
Van Halen knew that if the M&Ms clause wasn’t carried out, they knew to double-check that the venue could handle the electricity demands of the show. It came about after a promoter failed to make sure a venue could. DLR did an interview on it.
Good Story, thanks Mo!
Welcome! I am a DLR fan.
That sounds like a good H&H Extended Universe. A series of vignettes about each couple getting ready for the inauguration.
Twitter says that it is totally remenicent of the MockingJay from the hunger games. “We did it, we defeated President Snow”. Its like they didn’t finish the book.
Read a book?
I mean, they could finish the movie too. The “Plot twist” is like the entire premise of the final movie.
DB – “I looked into it about 15 years ago and again recently. It has gotten even more complicated. You have to get the type 7 FFL (manufacturer) first. To do that, you must register with the Department of State as a manufacturer and exporter of Defense Articles under ITAR rules, even if you do not intend to export them. Then get and maintain the appropriate business licenses for wherever you plan to do the business. Then file the SOT 2 (manufacturer) paperwork and pay $500 a year if your annual gross receipts are less than $500,000, ($1,000/year if more). And then do enough business that the ATF doesn’t revoke your license. And that still doesn’t let you buy FA items from other dealers unless you can show a legitimate request from a LE agency for a demonstration/intent to purchase.”
I just wanted to respond to this. I am an 07/02. The hardest part of getting the license is dealing with your local zoning board if you are doing it from a residence. You don’t need a law letter to manufacture a FA just file a Form 2 and 24 hours later its approved and drill your third hole (phrasing). The ITAR requirement was dropped by the Trump admin and nobody followed it anyway as ATF does not have jurisdictional authority to check (probably be rectified soon). FFL123 is a great resource if you are considering getting your FFL. Also my ATF IOI has told me numerous times that if all I did was transfers they would be completely happy.
Interesting, as I just checked the ATF and State Dept web sites when researching my post, and they definitely both say you have to register under ITAR. Why the disparity?
Thanks for the FF123 reference, I will check it out.
I got bounced around between the two of them as I applied for my FFL before the change took place. The IOI told me in no uncertain that ATF does not have anything to do with enforcement or determining whether you need to register. After I got my FFL and started talking to other manufacturers they all said that they didn’t ever bother to register.
Thanks. Did you find that the FFL123 guides helped much with figuring out the specifics wrt your local regulations and zoning?
No the forums were more helpful. Every state and local zoning board is different. Oddly enough the ATF will be able to tell you the likelihood of your success in each jurisdiction with the most accuracy although they were wrong with Jefferson county WV and updated their knowledgebase when I was successful.
I’m facing the challenge even just with my C&R license that my new mailing address won’t be my residence address. We’re far enough out in the sticks that the post office (and UPS/FedEx) doesn’t come out there. Our mailing address will be at the UPS store in Wasilla, about 25 miles away.
So have to figure that one out. IF any Glibs have dealt with this, I’d love to hear what that deal is.
Can you get an agreement with a local FFL-holding shop?
Guess I can try. There’s a shop in Wasilla that has a good local reputation. Reckon I’ll contact BATFE first, see if they have any guidance.
For a type 03 C&R, there are different boxes on the application form for mailing address and the “Business/Activity” address.
So there are! Teach me to look before complaining.
And I have to say, I dearly love the prospect of being out in the sticks far enough that the post office doesn’t know where my house is.
I did know that you don’t need a LE letter to manufacture, only to receive a transfer of a dealer sample.
I’m pretty familiar with the general requirements for handling NFA and ATF paperwork; but it’s the local stuff that I would need help with. How good is the FFL123 service for that?
It varies between states. I got my FFL when I moved to WV. WV has no zoning so it was just a matter of creating an LLC, getting my trade name (needed for NFA) and FEIN (needed for NFA) and then registering for a state business license and tax ID. Pretty much sent all of it in with my packet to ATF and really the only question they had when they emailed me for the interview was about ITAR which I indicated that my activities wouldn’t fall under and they said “ok no problem not our call”
The FFL123 stuff is really good for filling out the ATF forms so it probably won’t be too helpful for you in that respect, but you do get access to the forums which is populated by a lot of knowledgeable people. Most people end up getting stymied by local zoning. I moved to Jefferson country WV which is the only county that has zoning and had to go before the board and get a conditional use permit to run my business. Thankfully it is still West Virginia so it wasn’t that bad. If you are interested I can try and answer questions in more length via email or phone.
Thanks for the offer; I’m in PA, and I just checked our local ordinances, which are a complete mess–sections referenced by other sections don’t exist, or have the wrong numbers, etc.
Anyway, our ordinances say that in the zone where I am, “manufacturing” is not a permitted activity, nor is “retail sales”. I’m wondering if I can stretch it to “engineering and design” that needs a “manufacturing license.”
Some people have gotten around the “Retail Sales” issue by saying they are online only sellers and just drop ship from wholesalers. It works in some jurisdictions and doesn’t in others. Some jurisdictions have a “boutique manufacturer” license you can get as well. That is what I ended up using. It might be beneficial to just call the zoning admin and ask. Sometimes they have specific set asides for FFLs (crazy I know). Another thing ATF will check up on is if your HOA if applicable prohibits residential businesses. You very well may be able to use the “engineering and design” permit as the main purpose for SOTs being able to manufacture machine guns is for experimentation and design.
Now, interestingly enough, I just downloaded the ATF’s list of all FFL holders and lo and behold, there is a Type 01 FFL listed in my zone, in fact, less than a mile from my house. Hmmm….
You can use that against the zoning board. Might not get you to manufacturing but you can be an 01/03 SOT. I will tell you that I find FA extremely boring compared to SA speed drills and silencers and SBRs are where its at in the NFA world.
I have a few transferables and I love them but I agree that there is real utility in SBRs and suppressors. As time goes on, suppressors are going to be even more popular than they are now, especially as people move out to the sticks and want to shoot on their own property without bugging the neighbors or as people move into areas where existing gun clubs will feel pressure.
Lies told for power and profit, such as premising your entire campaign on a lie.
“What are the common objects we as Americans love, that define us as Americans,” Biden asked those watching his address. “I think we know. Opportunity, security, liberty, dignity, respect, honor, and yes, the truth.” …
“Recent weeks and months have taught us a painful lesson,” the president said. “There is truth and there are lies. Lies told for power and for profit.”
“And each of us has a duty and a responsibility as citizens as Americans and especially as leaders,” Biden added. “Leaders who are pledged to honor our Constitution to protect our nation. To defend the truth and defeat the lies.”
Truth > facts.
“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.” -Emerson.
I didn’t bother to listen to Biden’s speech but I’ll bet he violated one or more of those “common objects” before the end of the speech.
Asked a little while back but don’t recall any responses. Anyone heard from Pan Z recently?
Wait… who’s a pansy?
I haven’t seen him post in a while.
I see, after the previous thread died, that some of the folks behind the site sent mail to Pie. Thanks to them for doing that. Maybe they can do the same for Pan Zagloba?
It’s not going to be as bad as many here think.
Reading about Joe’s plans for the economy leaves me with a sensation verging on claustrophobia.
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
Federal prosecutors quietly closed an investigation into a leak of sensitive information regarding Michael Flynn’s phone calls with a Russian diplomat, according to The New York Times, which also reported that investigators found no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Obama administration officials.
The investigation, codenamed Operation Echo, centered on a leak to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, who reported on Jan. 12, 2017 that Flynn spoke by phone to Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. …
“Prosecutors in the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington investigated whether the disclosures came from former Obama administration officials who had access to sensitive information about the phone calls, according to two people familiar with the investigation,” the Times reported.
“The investigators ultimately found no wrongdoing, one of the people said.”
If it saves one life…
The incoming Biden administration is planning on enforcing far stricter guidelines to protect against the spread of COVID-19 in the White House than its predecessor, according to new guidance sent to staffers Tuesday.
The guidelines, reported by Axios, say that staffers will be required to take daily coronavirus tests and wear N95 face masks at all times.
The efforts to blunt the virus’s spread mark a contrast with the Trump White House, which was rattled by a number of COVID-19 outbreaks as administration officials declined to wear masks. President Trump was sent to the hospital during his fight with the coronavirus after an outbreak at an outdoor event in the Rose Garden where most attendees were seen maskless.
The guidance was sent to officials who will have “proximity” to any White House “principals,” likely referring to chiefs of departments.
Could. Might. Maybe. Possibly. We think.
SCIENCE!
Rules are just words on a paper. I can tell you right now that this is not going to be enforced. It is just a nice thing to say you are doing.
To protect the WHPC, they should be enclosed in a hermetically sealed chamber during press conferences.
woops, who flipped the vacuum chamber switch.
*scrolls back up to the top*
where are all of the n95s?
It makes a lot of sense. It was sad when they had to turn the Rose Garden into a graveyard for all the dead White House staff members.
“and wear N95 face masks at all times”
If these masks are properly fit tested, these staffers are going to get sick, And if they aren’t, they’re as useless as non N95 masks.
N95s are not meant to be worn repeatedly for extended periods of time, They have to be cleaned regularly first of all.
Like any news agency is going to check up on that?
Also, haven’t all these people been vaccinated? So they have to be tested daily on top of that? Is there something they’re not telling us?
I hope they’re prepared to tend to a lot of people after falling out. Wearing an N95 all the time would be absolutely miserable.
It was fundamentally the conclusion from the California Board of Health in 1920 regarding the flu pandemic: the masks can either be ineffective or unreasonably uncomfortable to wear for very long. IE, if it doesn’t restrict breathing very much, it’s not going to be able to do the job you want it do.
The ones with the valves fix this somewhat, but those have been declared verboten.
https://twitter.com/diaahadid/status/1350020576698642434
I’m guessing they don’t allow women to ride bicycles either?
And they shouldn’t. I mean, women drivers. Am I right?
Everyone knows the correct term is Rollerblades.
In before Ted’S
I was thinking more.
Terribly underrated Dire Straits song.
It is a great one. I always wondered if it was the inspiration for YT in Snow Crash.
She tortures taxi drivers just for fun
She like to read their lips
She say, Toro, Toro Taxi!
Se ya tomorrow my son
She just let a big truck graze her hip
I would have posted this.
Correct. Those are inline skates, not quads. Only quads are roller skates. /Husband of former roller derby girl
Appropriate use of roller skates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMk8t0d1b5c
I want one of these pistols
I can only think of the scene from Boogie Nights as the appropriate use of roller skates….
Roller Girl is still in the file.
That’s almost as lulzy as the Pyongyang traffic signalwomen, aka “traffic ladies.”
you tube wanted me to buy body armor before that video….
I missed the response to my Madison comment in the previous thread. My answer: veto of the Bonus Bill of 1817.
“Although President James Madison approved of the need and stated goals of improvements, he vetoed the bill as unconstitutional because he finds no expressed congressional power to fund roads and canals in Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution” — from wikipedia.
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/march-3-1817-veto-message-internal-improvements-bill
And DR. JILL BIDEN is wearing something made from old curtains and a couch found out on the street.
Heh.
While at the gym, I noted some of the TVs were tuned to the inaugural festivities. I see all is right with the world now as the Swamp is happy.
The music link is good.
Saw a photo of the Biden motorcade with the Secret Service walking along side wearing masks.
1. They were more than 6 ft apart.
2. They weren’t talking.
3. They were outside.
Security theatre.
Please. Pandemic theatre.
There’s more theaters going on than a Shakespeare festival.
This commentary is very Gilmore-esque. I approve.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1352007118392582148
Biden intel community “are moving in laser-like fashion to try to uncover as much as they can about” the pro-Trump “insurgency” that harbors “religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even libertarians”
It’s not paranoia when they really are out to get you.
MAGA!
I used to think they were just cynical. Increasingly it seems that they are so far up their own assholes that they believe their own bullshit.
They really want to try to poke and push people into actual violence, it seems.
That is called a psyops operations. Fuck em
I didn’t watch the Inauguration today because there’s fucking sewage coming into my garage. Apparently there’s a clog between my sewage line and the village sewage line and they have to dig a hole in my front yard to put in some mechanism( a clean out I think) to fix the issue. If Biden came out to the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago and fixed it for me, I would care about his inauguration.
If he truly had empathy, he’d come out and fix it for you.
There’d better be puddin’ cups involved, or he’s not coming.
*rattles pool chain*
“Okay, it’s fixed”
Must have been a coincidence, but there was sewage coming into the Inauguration today too.
I happened to catch some of the fawning overtures on the BBC coverage. They especially love Kamala. Of course they had plenty of time for Chicago’s most unremarkable constitutional law scholar as well. They also made sure to cut in some out-of-context Trump quotes, natch. It’s so relentless. I don’t watch TV or listen to news on the radio, but literally any time I go over and see my folks it’s always on and it’s always an absolute horror show of lefty talking points, propaganda, lies, bad faith emotional arguments, absolute garbage. C4, BBC, whoever, they all especially have a major hard-on for young, “healthy” people with “no underlying conditions” getting bed-ridden and dying from the CCP virus. One or two people whose medical history and lifestyle we can know nothing about are central to hammering on the covid propaganda. I’m just waiting to be renditioned or whatever for “extremist posting” or something. Fuck ’em.
There’s a serious illness that can cause severe immunodeficiency, where the law prohibits revealing anyone who is afflicted with the disease. Consider that possibility any time they mention a covid death in someone “young, healthy and without comorbid illnesses.”
You need more fiber in your diet.
If Biden came out to the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago and fixed it for me, I would care about his inauguration.
I wouldn’t trust Biden to fix anything, let alone something as important as a sewer pipe. I don’t think he’s done much manual labor in his life, or much honest work.
It’s either a harbinger or a metaphor …
I already miss Trump. His ALL CAPS twitter rants were a thing of beauty and if anything else, he exposed politics for the stupidity that it always have been.
As far as I know, he didn’t tweet from the POTUS account, did he? He tweeted from his personal account.
Yeah. @realDonaldTrump or whatever it was.
#METOO
These are the people who are going to be running things under Biden:
I understand people who refused to vote for either one of the clowns on the ballot. What I don’t understand, and have no respect for, are the Republicans/libertarians who voted for this shit because TRUMP MEAN TWEETS.
Submitted too quickly…..they voted for that shit, broke arms patting themselves on the back for doing so (“I put country over party!!1”), and now are going to act all dismayed and aghast at the kind of bullshit we’re going to get buried it.
Reason staff has a collective sad.
With but a couple of exceptions, TOS is no longer what most libertarians understand as libertarian.
Even the new crop of lesser, and I mean MUCH lesser commentatiat left there, understand that they are no longer a libertarian site in any way at all.
I don’t even understand what those words mean. It’s like buzzword bingo.
It’s leftspeak for “hand over your wallet.”
They revealed themselves for what they always were: image obsessed morons. The Presidency, to them, is really just a reality show version of their favorite movies and TV shows about political power. Trump couldn’t deliver the proper lines in the proper fashion. He wasn’t presidential, and that is the greatest sin of all.
?
Think on how great it might have been had Trump been more modest, humorous, self-deprecating, articulate, and interested enough in what his advisers were telling him to get the facts straight. Oh, and had been something other than a 90s Democrat.
I was about to say “oh, you mean Romney” until that last part; that tripped me up.
“Refilling The Swamp: Trump Revokes His Own Lobbying Ban For Former Officials”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-revokes-five-year-lobbying-ban-former-officials
This, no Assange pardon (which I didn’t expect anyway) while pardoning a long list of corrupt jagoffs, not standing up more vociferously for the people who attended his march…Man, did Trump go out like a bitch or what?
I suspect it was to open the doors for his cronies in the future, yes. As for going out like a bitch? Maybe, though he did get to see the full force of the bureaucratic state and how terrifying it is to even those with money in the past month or so.
Don’t get me wrong, I prefer Trump’s brand of politics to the Dem’s but he’s killed his own brand. A lot of people sacrificed quite a bit for him and he left them twisting in the wind for the most part.
And that comes as a surprise to you… how?
Not a surprise, it’s about what I expected but nice to get more than you expected every once in a while.
Something scorpion something frog.
Of course, the frog’s swimming among alligators.
So Whitmer traveled and went to Washington I see…
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/01/19/whitmer-biden-harris-inauguration/4209714001/
FTA:
Whitmer said at a Tuesday news conference she is “encouraging Americans everywhere to take part virtually” in the inauguration, but the relationship between Michigan and the White House is “incredibly important,” and it was “an honor” when Biden asked her to attend the event.
Remember, your relationships, your family, they are not “incredibly important” and it isn’t an honor to go to a wedding, a funeral or any other such activities.
Rules fot thee but not for me.
Questioning her in any way is a gross display of racism and misogyny and you definitely waved a confederate flag while saying that.
If this doesn’t stop the covid, nothing will
The campaign seems to be as much about garnering free advertising as it is promoting the COVID-19 vaccine. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/01/19/covid-19-vaccine-free-marijuana-greenhouse-ubaked/4216802001/
Thanks for the music vid. To fill in the too-rarely-heard third verse:
Blowin’ up the lab or blowin’ the professor –
When faced with two evils, I always take the lesser.
Things are goin’ great…(etc.)
Hillary’s outfit looks like something Ginger Baker would have worn in 1967
I have some technische Fragen für Allies:
1. I tried to install Brave on my PC but it just hangs on the “DOWNLOADING” part, which I think is odd because I already downloaded the installer I thought? Anyway, I left it for maybe 30 mins and I figured maybe it was hanging by then.
2. When I signed up for a YouTube account so I could save my my subscriptions, I had used a burner email and lost the password. Anyway now I would like to sign up for a new account but Google makes you give them your phone number and confirm your ID and all that crap. Is there a workaround? Not a big deal as my old account is still signed in on this old Amazon stick I can geschmeugel into the Fernseher.
93737. Back to Brave again. Using it on my phone, it keeps freezing up for a couple of minutes while I’m trying to type in a post/reply. I never had this problem mit FeuerFox so I’m considering maybe trying Opera or something? Anyone else have dieses Problemen?
Danke
*Alles
Fucking autocorrect
What’s with the German? Pretending you’re a member of the royal family?
One points out that one’s name is Vindtssaah *cough* Windsor und that does not sound very tscherman to me, I tsink *cough* think. Anus horribilis. Trouble in the Raj. Andrew’s awwff to that dreadful island with his chum Jeffrey again.
Use the DuckDuckGo browser on your phone, it works.
I’ve had no issues with Brave on my PC
Thanks
Yeah, I’m using brave on my Samsung phone and my Win10 PC, and no issues so far (been using it for about two weeks now…). Firefox is dead to me.
What’s so bad about Firefox?
Using that too.
It sucks for searching compared to Bing. But so does Google.
Huh…I’ve used Brave on my phone for a while and not had any problems.
Been using Brave for a while. Not all of the time. Never had any issues installing it on PC.
So Biden is dropping the EOs right out the gate.
The mask thing is beyond ridiculous because, well, I am pretty sure all executive level departments have already had that in place…checks calendar on work email…August?
“This executive action will direct the agencies to take action to require compliance with CDC guidance on mask wearing and physical distancing in federal buildings, on federal lands and by federal employees and contractors,”
There has to be a market of people that want factual news…
market of people that want factual news
*raises hand*
I think most have said it here, we can deal with bias, its human nature to have bias. Give me a he said/she said, some background information and I, as a somewhat functioning member of society, can determine how to process it.
Too much to ask, too late in the game I think.
JOE BIDEN’S 15 DAY ONE EXECUTIVE ORDERS:
1. Mask mandate requiring face coverings in federal buildings and land
2. Halt border wall construction by terminating the national emergency declaration used to fund it
3. End the ‘Muslim travel ban’ from seven countries
4. Reversal of Trump’s expansion of immigration enforcement
5. Stop the U.S. from withdrawing from the World Health Organization
6. Rejoin the Paris Climate Accord to reduce fossil fuel emissions
7. Reinstate a requirement for non-citizens to be included in the Census
8. Reinforce DACA after Trump sought to end protections for undocumented people brought into the country as children
9. Dissolve the Trump administration’s 1776 Commission on history curriculum in schools
10. Cancel construction of the Keystone XL oil and gas pipeline
11. Extend the existing pause on federal student loan payments
12. Extend existing moratorium on evictions and foreclosures
13. Prevent workplaces from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity
14. Undo Trump’s regulatory approval process
15. Extend deferrals of deportation and work authorizations for Liberians with a safe haven in the United States
#1 is pointless and political propaganda – already in place by agencies
#2 SHOULD go to court
#3 SHOULD go to court
#4 okay, but wasn’t their technically less enforcement during the last few years? Or did I misread that
#5 okay
#6 SHOULD either go to court or have to be ratified in the Senate, like it should have been in the first place
#7 SHOULD go to court
#8 Nothing changed I thought?
#9 okay
#10 SHOULD go to court
#11 It is just monopoly money anyway
#12 see above
#13 I am pretty sure that was already in place or at least courts have recognized it?
#14 Turn monopoly money into gold
#15 okay
*the okays above are not approvals, just more of a meh
So, a big nothingburger.
You’d better get busy blowing your far left bosses, decrepit old blow boy, before they stick something sharp in your back.
Imagine living to 78 and being on your knees blowing retarded morons. Pathetic. Biden may be the most pathetic human to ever live.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsMpuIYXAAAkhuO.jpg
That was fast.
Heh.
I see Bon Jovi’s performing for Biden tonight. Living on a Prayer indeed.
“Biden immediately gets to work in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk, signing a stack of executive orders reversing Trump’s key policies – but says former President DID leave him a ‘very generous’ letter”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9169471/Joe-Biden-walks-White-House-hand-hand-Jill.html
I haven’t looked, but I’d love to read that letter.
It had a check that more than covered the redecorating costs.
I’d leave him one.
Hey, senile retard, suck donkey dicks and fucking die. Don’t forget to rot in hell.
Biden was pretty gracious about it and told the reporter who was demanding to see or know what was in it to back off. I give points where points are deserved.
He did it because it would have embarrassed him. There is nothing gracious in that steaming pile of human dung.
You need to see someone about your anger issues.
Go fuck yourself.
LOL, good one, but seriously, there are people who can help you, you should look into it.
Another fun neighborly talk
Me: I really wish Trump didn’t just bluster about regarding troops and Afghanistan and Iraq. I fought those wars 20 years ago, my kids shouldn’t have that option right out the gate if they choose to join the military.
Neighbor: Its an all volunteer army, they know what they are getting into.
Glad we squared that one away…sending kids to the meat grinder is okay because they volunteered for it.
The Afghani and Iraqi kids, too? Or the Syrian or Yemeni kids? I take it they all signed the same social contract?
That requires greater thought than this person can achieve.
Trump could have left democrats crushed so badly, they would never recover. In just a few steps.
1. Pull all troops out of the middle east immediately.
2. Legalize all drugs by de-scheduling all of them.
3. Pardon Snowden and Assange and give them both asylum in the USA.
The dems would be so broken right now, they’d NEVER recover from it.
In the end, Trump was no less a pussy than all the rest.
The Swamp and the deep state won in the end. After all the RAWR OMB put on, they beat him. Or we were duped. I am undecided at this point. I am still developing my conspiracy theory. Going to the store for push pins and string tomorrow.
There are several things he did wrong.
First and foremost, and I saw this on day one, he is bad, very, very bad and awful at choosing the people to surround himself with. This was the biggest downfall, bar none.
That alone was enough. It’s not his only shortcoming, but by far the biggest. Being president is not Celebrity Apprentice, especially when you are faced with an enemy who who wants to destroy the republic and are backed by the CCP.
Dood, the CCP is not our worst threat at the moment.
Many things never occur to Those Who Know Exactly What Trump Should Have Done. One of those things is that anyone associated with him was subject to intense harassment from the media and social media mobs. As we speak there are well connected people busy with preventing his supporters from ever working again.
Part of hiring quality people is the lack of a lynch mob once they accept a job.
I putterd around too long to read this. I should have known better. I so love the ringing in of a new regime to bring out the best folks in their bestest clothes. Good on Pres dementia for killing 10,000 jobs with his first act as Pres. We.Are.Fucked…………. I have a memory story about the linked song but not telling it now. It involves a trailer park in S. Florida, a couple alcoholics, drugs, the beach and a Dalmatian.
We’re not fucked yet, bro.
Their honeymoon, hopefully, ended today.