Lockdown This.

by | May 3, 2021 | Film | 318 comments

I know many of you listen to Tom Woods because you carry index cards (mostly with addresses of girls you are stalking) of allowable opinion. In case you missed Ep.1885 I am going to pass it along. Tom has been excellent throughout the “pandemic” and now it seems some film makers are on board to make a documentary about the Gov over reach this past year or so. It needs to be made because the “science believers” are pushing the narrative that had we not ruined so many peoples lives and destroyed so many businesses with unconstitutional restrictions things would have been worse. This goes against all the data people way smarter than me have tracked and that narrative needs to be killed. Please join me in supporting this project. There are links on the linked episode page to support this endeavor.

I will now get back to my canned Pinot Grigio.

About The Author

westernsloper

westernsloper

Born to the privileged class what lives in trailer parks, raised in the mountains but left them for the sea. Returned due to lack of finding a better place to live. Excels at self destructive behavior, smoked meats and poorly reasoned arguments in spite of never being wrong.

318 Comments

  1. trshmnstr the terrible

    His newsletters are awesome. An island of sanity in a sea of madness.

    • Hyperion

      There’s room for a shit ton of islands in that sea, bro. Some of them could be 3x the size of Africa and still be isoloated.

      • Hyperion

        isolated, but still…

    • hayeksplosives

      Totally agreed, Tradhy. It’s good to hear other people discuss this do that we don’t wonder if we’re the only ones.

  2. Q Continuum

    Marxism corrupts everything, including (perhaps especially) science.

    • Hyperion

      How about a heaping helpin of some Lysenkoism?

  3. Brochettaward

    I’m so down today. I feel like a seconder. So I posted second.

    • TARDis

      Too calm. You could be TNT.

      • Brochettaward

        The Bro doesn’t do morning links unless he’s still drinking from the previous day.

    • Mojeaux

      You’re back!

    • The Hyperbole

      Oh Jesus, first TNT and now this asshole is back, worst day ever!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Oh goody, I’ll just shut up and watch….

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        /Total sarc,

      • Mojeaux

        You haz mail.

      • Ted S.

        I assume “this asshole” refers to Hyperbole?

      • Brochettaward

        The Hyperbole has always really been more of a cunt.

      • TARDis

        Hmmm. Hyperbole, Bro, and Ted in a seedy motel room in Albuquerque. Now on the Discovery Channel. That could be a great story.

      • blackjack

        None of them are midgets, albino, lesbians or left handed.

      • TARDis

        You don’t know any of that for sure.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Hey BW! How was Dorsia today?

  4. Count Potato

    “I know many of you listen to Tom Woods”

    I have no idea who he is.

    • westernsloper

      You do now.

    • hayeksplosives

      One of the Glib miscreants (maybe it was Sloper) turned my on to Tom Woods. Now it is nightly listening for me as part of my bedtime ritual.

      He makes a little fun of himself for talking about Covid so much but it really is huge, partly because of what it portends for the future.

    • Drake

      The guy who was married to Drew Barrymore?

  5. rhywun

    I don’t even know who that is.

    I do have a television, though.

    • westernsloper

      You do now.

    • westernsloper

      He is a Ron Paulista and he is worth listening to between your soccer games. I listen to him on my way to work because his podcasts are pretty much my drive time. That and he is on point with my thinking and I like confirmation bias.

      • Hyperion

        “He is a Ron Paulista”

        Is it happening?

      • blackjack

        Wha sappening?

      • Hyperion

        That’s what I said.

      • rhywun

        I don’t actually listen to podcasts. I haven’t had a commute in years and when it comes back I prefer to just listen to music.

        I am happy to read their thoughts filtered through you reprobates, though.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Dude, you are New Yorkering wrong. You’re supposed to humblebrag about not having a TV for x number of years, Or is that more of a Brooklyn thing?

      • rhywun

        I was riffing on it being a thing with some Glibs 😛

        It’s not a “New York” or “Brooklyn” thing that I am aware of.

  6. westernsloper

    I must say I am not drinking a canned Pinot Grigio now. That was a work assignment and it sucked. But after I wrote this, I am having issues that I am struggling to resolve. Everybody, including Tom is using data that is bullshit. The data is fucked three ways to Toledo. The case numbers are fucked. The death numbers are fucked. I am resolving this by telling myself, even by their data the unconstitutional actions made no difference but I am not sure that is the right tact. Maybe a side tact should be made because how they scored the human vs Covid game had such idiotic criteria I don’t even know what to think other than we were played. My only hope is they go that direction as well as pointing out all the measures they set out meant not a thing.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Simple WS, I Will Not Comply

    • Q Continuum

      “That was a work assignment and it sucked”

      ¿Qué?

      • westernsloper

        I’ll tell you on a zoom. I think I have said too much on the site and may be being doxxed on another site. Which is just asshoe because I am a nobody but would like to keep this life away from my real life.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        That’s a terrifying prospect…. the relative obscurity of this place has made me feel more comfortable sharing than I should. I can’t imagine how many of us would be screwed by somebody doing a relatively low effort doxxing campaign on us.

      • westernsloper

        I’m not sure I would be screwed, just more uncomfortable. Maybe if the big bosses got hold of some of my comments because they don’t like me anyways because I don’t show the proper respect, but fuck. It was just something I heard this morning and then something about westernsloper. I was jaw dropped.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Forum, maybe, or not.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        “That’s a terrifying prospect” way too late for me, Cheers!

      • rhywun

        My fear is one of you lot is someone I know. Probably unfounded but it keeps me from “sharing” (i.e. bitching) as much as I could.

      • commodious spittoon

        Could be worse. Could be one of us is somebody that you used to know. Then you’ll be stuck with a shitty one-hit-wonder from 2011.

      • Q Continuum

        ^^^ I love this guy.

      • Mojeaux

        LOL

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I like that song, it sounds like Pink but not completely terrible.

      • commodious spittoon

        I don’t mind it, tbh

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        My fear is one of you lot is someone I know.

        One of the occasional posters at TOS was a lab partner of mine from college.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not afraid of glibs. If one of you turned out to be someone I knew without having organized a meeting from this site, it would not be an issue.

      • pistoffnick

        I’ve met you UCS. And I remember thinking, “Please don’t be a fed.” as I sent you my real name and work phone number.

        I took a risk there. Thank you for only being a Statie and not a Fed.

      • pistoffnick

        As I’ve said before, if you want to find me, drive to the northern end of Interstate 35. There is a liquor store there. Get out of your car and yell, “Wolverines!” up the hill.

        If you yell loud enough, I will find you.

      • UnCivilServant

        *celebratory anti-communist gunfire*

      • Unreconstructed

        Heh…imagine my surprise when a comment about my college life led me to learn that Not Adahn and I were friends in college, members of the same fraternity. Hell, he even borrowed my car (and left it when it broke down!) one night.

      • I'm Here To Help

        See, I remedy that problem by not having any friends. Or even acquaintances. And I know my wife doesn’t post here, so problem solved!

      • Fourscore

        If you’re that in need of a friend I would be your friend, then we’d each have 1. Morning Ol’ Bud.

        Being a friend of me apparently isn’t too healthy however, most have gone already, including 3 last month.

      • Rat on a train

        I’m just a figment of your imagination.

      • Tejicano

        Over time I’ve shared enough of my personal details to the point that anybody who knows me IRL would recognize this could only be me. My background isn’t special but it’s unique enough. DILLIGAF? One of the other Glibs who I have met IRL drunkenly called me by my first name on a Zoom here and I really didn’t care.

      • westernsloper

        On the Zooms, I don’t care because I perhaps wrongly think nobody there gives a shit or is malicious enough to go post shit on my workplaces page. I sure don’t give a shit and am way too lazy to go to that effort.

      • Tejicano

        Since my global-corporate career is over and I just do project work with a mixed group of people over here – only one American in the group – nothing about me that might come up here would ever affect my income or ability to may one so I guess I have a lot less to worry about.

      • hayeksplosives

        I managed to self-doxx while joining Zoom and then also when doing a fundraiser.

        At that point I ceased to care. I figure if the feds want to know how boring my life really is, they can go right ahead.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I’m less afraid of the feds than my employer. They’d fire my ass in a second if they knew about my participation on this site.

        I’ve self doxxed on zoom a number of times. Heck, I’m usually sitting on my couch in my office with my government certification and identification number flitting around in the background. I should be better about that, but I’m not nearly as concerned about zoom.

      • westernsloper

        Ya, the zooms, I pretty much think folks would never do that. True believers and all that and while total assholes they might be, they are not total dickheads.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The fear to me isn’t the regulars or even the lurkers. It’s the person who happens by here, either accidentally or intentionally, finds it offensive, and decides to do something about it.

        Zoom doesn’t have the same level of threat. You can’t just stumble on our zoom call while searching political terms on the internet.

      • Shpip

        Eh, we learned plenty about you with those imgur pics you posted a few years back (hubba hubba!).

        BTW, glad to hear that Mr. Splosives is on the mend. I take it things were a mite dicey there for a while.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yes things were dicey with the hub. The day before the heart surgery they had to intubate him, and even after they called me for permission to do the surgery early the next day, his SpO2 dropped to 60%. Didn’t look good.

        He’s great now though! Every day an improvement.

        (Still not sure why I had that Imgur page…crazy I guess! More sane now.)

      • Mojeaux

        Boredom is underrated.

      • hayeksplosives

        Boredom is good thinking, reading, painting, gardening, etc time.

        One of the security guys investigating me (routine) asked me what I do for fun in my spare time.

        I was totally unprepared for that rather mundane question. I said, quite truthfully, reading, cooking, hanging out with my husband. And a little dabbling in art and crafts. Needlepoint.

        That’s pretty much it.

      • Fourscore

        “if the feds want to know how boring my life really is”

        They must be out on week end leave. Even when UCS visited he left as fast and politely as he could.

        He wouldn’t even take the money I offered, just to get him to stay another 1/2 hour.

      • UnCivilServant

        Now you’re just fibbing.

      • DEG

        I could be pretty easily doxxed by what I’ve given out here.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Most of the regulars have given enough information to where a little bit of open-source research could dox us. But fuggit, the Chinese 3rd Department already has 15 years of my SF-86s (thanks OMB, the government organ, not the man)

    • rhywun

      I don’t even know what to think other than we were played

      Right there with you.

      I literally don’t know what to believe any more. Because if you take everything THE MAN is telling us at face value, none of it makes any fucking sense.

      • blackjack

        It’s a straight up scam to oust trump and take over the world. The desperation on the left before the ‘vid was palpable. Back when it started, in March of ’20, we already knew that it was gonna be less than one percent of the populace would get it and less than one percent of them would die. We already knew it’d be old people who were in bad shape to start with. The world followed us. The only hold outs were red teamers. The ‘vid magically provided exactly everything the dems needed to take over everything. They know it and that’s why the are “fortifying” the future. Just in case this all comes to light. They must tightly control the news and everything else. It is a scam.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I know what to believe: very little.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        WUT? does that mean?

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        If I may, blind belief, when it comes to other people and their ideas is a bad idea.

    • Hyperion

      “a canned Pinot Grigio now”

      Heinous. I don’t really drink wine, but if I’m going to, it won’t be out of a can. My wife has a bottle of that Pinot Grigio in the fridge right now… I tried pronouncing that and she says it’s not pin-ought grig-geo?

      • TARDis

        I like me some pine not noyer. But just with steak or beef ribs. Maybe some lamb. Wine is just a food side dish to me. Occasionally I’ll have a mur lot when my estrogen starts peaking.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        You OK, Miles?

      • TARDis

        Going to the dark side….

      • Hyperion

        I wondered if that stuff is made out of pine knots.

        I stopped drinking beer, so I keep thinking a glass of that wine stuff might be OK. I don’t like it, so probably wouldn’t be tempted to overindulge.

      • rhywun

        I don’t like it, so probably wouldn’t be tempted to overindulge.

        It sounds logical but no, that strategy doesn’t work.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Heh. I learned to like (not love) gin recently. Good with citrus.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Has to be good gin for me. If it isn’t Bombay or something of similar quality it tastes like paint thinner to me.

      • Unreconstructed

        I enjoy (good) gin. Mostly with tonic and lime, outdoor on the patio, with a good cigar.

      • Shpip

        Gin is (along with tequila) a spirit where you definitely get what you pay for. Never, ever chintz on either spirit. That said:

        Bombay Sapphire / Tanqueray – gin and tonics
        Plymouth, Hendrick’s, Tanqueray 10 – gin craft cocktails
        Nolet’s – Martinis
        Monkey 47 – Martinis sans vermouth when your ship has come in

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Meh, ‘s not bad. Funny about the Franco-Italian name now that you mention it.

        Any room by your wife on the sofa?

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Tom addressed this in part in a newsletter a few weeks back. Basically, he simplified it down to taking the stand that is most likely to convince normals. That stand isn’t to simply say “my rights are absolute”. That stand isn’t “the data is fucked up and untrustworthy”. The normies are most convinced by “the data shows it doesn’t matter”, which is why he’s so heavy on that argument.

      • westernsloper

        I get that and can appreciate that tact but holy fuck I am not a normie and I am pissed.

      • westernsloper

        Also I do not check email enough to read the man’s newsletters. I don’t sit in front of a computer unless I am here.

      • blackjack

        Data is all bullshit. There used to be a sign that purported to count down deaths from second hand smoke. It was right downtown, here in L.A. It rattled through digits like lightning. By Feb., it read around 100 million. Pretty sure it “malfunctioned” shortly later. These people fucking love science!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        zillions and zillions served!

      • Q Continuum

        Which sucks because it’s basically conceding the premise to the statists. I’m not disagreeing with you at all, in fact it makes sense. It’s just that the corollary to that line of thinking is that “if the data showed it did matter than all the liberty destruction would be justified.” And it makes me sad that so many people are that far gone.

      • westernsloper

        That is kind of where I am at. I am not sure I can concede to accepting their data. The PCR tests are bullshit, (as attested to by the dude who actually made the test), the death count is bullshit (as attested to by a local coroner complaining two guns shot deaths were counted as covid deaths in her county). I get the line of attack, but I hope another doc is made showing how the numbers were utter horse shit and we were all played.

      • prolefeed

        My counterpremise is “the Top. Men. in government are literally incapable of not fucking up everything they touch, because the the only tool in their toolbox is force, heaped on top of the Socialist Knowledge Problem.”

        So, they’re not even capable of lying about the statistics in even a modestly believeable manner. Thus, they have to resort to force, and indoctrinate the kids in skools to just blindly believe whatever bullshit the government serves up.

      • westernsloper

        Could a film be made to prove those facts? I think it could but I am not a film maker.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        It can only be so much philosophical tail-chasing where in the end all you could hope to prove to their satisfaction is that their D- effort is still very much required even if that is the best to be had.

        You’re always going to be in that hole; it’s the reverse of every populist coin. For example, we need term limits because people can’t be trusted to elect the people that they must elect; they will elect much better people if we don’t allow them to vote for whom they wish. Voting works best when we tell you who not to vote for! It makes more sense to simply say democracy is hopeless (I’m not taking a side, just examining the logic).

        Same with virus data (Q implied the same above): people who produce data can be bettered by people with no data who intuitively know bad data when they see it, so populist guesses are actually better than studied guesses. Again, I’m not saying the health numbers are flawless, but they at least a proxy for what’s happening. The other choice is to insist I know in a Steve Smith I believe sort of way or to insist that a couple of anecdotes told 20,000 times carries more weight than 32,000,000 studied estimates.

        You might be right in your speculations. But as Deming counseled: in God we trust; all others bring data. That’s the currency of the realm, the ammo. The guys with the big pile are fighting down hill.

        But, of course, Little Round Top and Lookout Mountain happened.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Well said, Bravo!

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        This is the eternal struggle I have when arguing for pro-liberty positions. Arguing the efficacy of a given policy is at least superficially more effective and “friendly.” While arguing on fundamental principles is far easier to support philosophically, the downside is that it is easy for normies to dismiss me as being anti-social, an asshole, selfish, etc. While that is largely accurate, it does not create as effective of an argument.

  7. Hyperion

    “many of you listen to Tom Woods”

    I won’t listen to anyone, just ask my wife.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Whaaat? 😉

      • Hyperion

        Her words, not mine.

  8. DEG

    I like Tom Woods.

    I donated to fund this project.

  9. Toxteth O'Grady

    Meant to comment the other day how well the campaign was doing. Woodsy contributed 10k, some other anonymous person 2k, and then I forgot to refresh.

  10. Hyperion

    “the Gov over reach this past year”

    But they got rid of the orange dictator. You guys expect too much.

  11. zwak

    I guess we are not out of the woods yet.

  12. commodious spittoon

    (Very failed podcaster) Tom Woods.

  13. hayeksplosives

    Thanks, Sloper!

    Isn’t it pathetic that the filmmakers who want to do this have to participate anonymously, not because they are breaking a law, but because they could have their careers and lives ruined by mobs of frothing socialists and busybodies!!

    • blackjack

      It’s just revenge for the ’50’s When filmmakers had their careers ruined for wrongthink in a different direction.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        At least the Fifties ones were actually sympathetic to a hostile power, this is the state becoming the hostile power.

    • westernsloper

      Yes the fact the folks who want to make that film have to hide in anonymity is a bit disgusting. Kind of like me bitching about maybe being doxxed. This just made me rethink my thoughts.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      You should look into the story behind the ‘Red Pill’ (a good men’s rights documentary, IMO) they had to do all sorts of cloak and dagger stuff, keeping the screening location secret until the day of and having the audience meet at a park and be driven to the previously undisclosed locate. This was all to keep packs of frothing feminists from disrupting the screening, which they absolutely would have.

  14. db

    I feel like I should work on being more unpleasant around here. The sqweeky weals get the grouse.

    • Q Continuum

      Just post tit pics. Apparently breasts stir the pot and cause some people to lose it.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        A redhead Please? stir the pot…

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        Breasts stirring the pot? Come on, man. I don’t want to see no grannies.

    • Spudalicious

      I’ve never used weals to hunt grouse.

    • westernsloper

      Fuck off hippy! (did that work)

    • Tejicano

      Not worth the trouble.

      Besides, grouse is over-rated.

      • Spudalicious

        You’re eating the wrong grouse. Best tasting bird in the upland bird category.

    • Brochettaward

      I have a pretty dim view of cops, but teachers are worse. They are the female version of cops. All the same horrible tendencies to include being dumb as shit.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I met a Teacher last week, proud of her Masters Degree, she hated Sophmores, I asked her to define Sophmore, even with my Lady friend giving hints, she couldn’t figure it out, a Masters? Ha!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Sophomores?

      • commodious spittoon

        Defining words is just sophistry by people who think words have to have meaning to be useful.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        True, but understanding the roots and history of words indicates a degree of insightfulness.

    • Drake

      San Dimas is a real place? I thought it was made up for Bill and Ted.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Sandy Moss is very real, and very snooty, All Lefty, all the time, but I’ll take their money….

      • Bobarian LMD

        My aunt lived there in the ’70s. Was a nice place back then. You could still tell where one city ended and another started.

      • Hank

        The teacher could go back in time and stop herself from being a jerkoff.

    • Hank

      Sometimes the police look good just by comparison with the individuals they’re dealing with.

      • Chafed

        Hell to the yeah.

  15. Q Continuum

    Way OT: Mrs. Q has to go in to get a touch up on the undercarriage at the end of the week. Big time bummer.

    Further: Should I buy a Tavor? I’ve always kinda wanted one but they’re expensive. However, now that I figure they’ll get banned sooner or later by Senile Joe and his gang of puppeteers I’m wondering if I should spring for one. Anyone have experience with it?

    • slumbrew

      R.C. Dean’s better half just got one / is getting one.

      • slumbrew

        ISTR a big part of it was that she’s a southpaw and Tavor comes in a lefty model (maybe user swappable?)

      • DEG

        It can be reconfigured by the user. I’d have to go find the manual for mine to be certain, but I think only simple tools (like punches and screwdrivers) are required.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      it tends to work well, if she’s young,

    • DEG

      I like my x95.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I like my KerryBot, she’s fun….

    • Tejicano

      I would recommend it just because it will probably end up being a good investment. I assume she isn’t left handed?

      Which caliber are you thinking about? 9mm or 5.56? The 5.56 is a nice package and runs on standard AR magazines which will always be easy to find.

      Lots of serious shooters have issues with the bullpup configuration – I assume Mrs. Q isn’t planning to go on raids against the Taliban or doing house-to-house looking for Cartel figures so it isn’t such a big deal.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Wait, my Kerrybot is ls left handed, or do you mean something else?

      • Tejicano

        What’s a Kerrybot?

    • Shpip

      I’ve always heard that bullpups take some getting used to and have their shortcomings, but I’ve never had anyone explain to me what they are.

      I keep considering getting one in 7.62.

      • Tejicano

        I’ve heard the DesertTech (sp?) is a really good platform – particularly for a 7.62 There are a few InRange Youtube videos on it. One of the few BullPups that Karl and Gun Jesus approve of.

    • EvilSheldon

      Bullpups are toys. If you’re all set on carry gear, a couple of ARs, plenty of ammo stocked, training all sorted out, then sure, indulge yourself. Otherwise, no.

      • Tejicano

        I think bullpups have a place – road trips are one where you want something compact enough that none of your luggage looks like you’re carrying a long arm when checking into a hotel. When most of the probable encounters you could run in to would involve getting into/out of vehicles or in enclosed spaces a bullpup isn’t necessarily a bad choice.

      • slumbrew

        ISTR that the Tavor bullpup design was driven by the cramped conditions the IDF deal with in the cities/towns.

      • EvilSheldon

        For that use case (and it is a real one – I’ve had a travel rifle set up for a couple years now) a bullpup can work. But given the choice, I’d much rather have a conventional rifle with a folding stock, short barrel, or both. Bullpups are compact, but they’re not nearly as shootable as conventional rifles of similar size.

      • Tejicano

        That case is just a couple inches shorter than the tennis racket case I tote my Para FAL in.

      • EvilSheldon

        Nice. Hauling around a Para FAL as a travel rifle is a top-ten power move.

        By any objective standard, the FAL sucks as a battle rifle. Heavy, so-so accuracy, no good optics mounting options, not the easiest to maintain, short service life, etc. But the FAL is so much fun to shoot that all those downsides just melt away after the first magazine. I don’t know exactly what it is, but the FAL is much greater than the sum of its parts. I really need to build one one of these days.

      • Tejicano

        The other benefit of my tennis racket bag is it looks to be not even worth stealing. It never gets a second look when I set it next to my bag while checking in at the front desk.

      • EvilSheldon

        Yeah, my travel rifle is a 5″ 9mm AR folder. It lives in an old canvas messenger bag with a bunch of Glock extendos, a silencer, and a bunch of medical gear. It’s a pretty good system.

      • Tejicano

        A guy who loved a few doors down from me out in rural AZ was a sheriff’s deputy. He also was a multi-tour Marine Vietnam Vet – and kept a Styer AUG in his truck as a back-up rifle.

      • Tejicano

        All that being said, the main issues with bullpups are a) can be difficult to switch shooting sides dynamically (not always the case) and b) changing magazines can feel like you’re sticking the magazine into your armpit (other than the FN P-90).

      • EvilSheldon

        Also generally excessive length of pull, not enough foreend length to build a solid shooting index, lousy practical accuracy from any position other than standing, and triggers that range from mediocre to unusable. But again, that’s me.

      • Tejicano

        I don’t mean to be a cheerleader for bullpups but I have a hard time arguing against the choice of several major nations for the use by their standard grunt. That being said, out of the many different semi-auto rifle designs I own I do not have one single bullpup among them.

        But when it came to developing a practical high-cap, semi-auto shotgun in a minimized envelope my own design ended up being a bullpup. (Think of the FN P-90 on steroids)

      • EvilSheldon

        Eh, we all have our preferences. Some are just filthier than others.

        It’s worth noting though, that most of the A-list national militaries have gone back to conventional rifle layouts.

      • Gustave Lytton

        No bullpup either, but in the days of full-size A2 and web slings, I much preferred the L85. Was awesome for patrolling and went bang every time I pulled the trigger, but was only for two weeks so I didn’t get the full POS experience.

      • Tejicano

        Ah, the L85 – “Perhaps the Worst Modern Military Rifle” as per Gun Jesus…

        While the FAMAS (the French bullpup service rifle – now being replaced) is one of his favorite of all time – so the above isn’t just a bias against bullpups.

        I would say that as long as you understand what your requirements are and that the issues various militaries and/or gun authorities have found with bullpups don’t impact your requirements you should be good to go.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And the ones I used were ore-HK rebuilds, too!

        Also liked their 24 ration packs better.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        I think rifle caliber bullpup would have been a superior option to M4s in urban/convoy operations.

    • R C Dean

      Mrs. Dean’s lefty Tavor bullpup is a very nice piece of equipment. Seems very solid. She likes the weight back in the stock, “short” barrel in front thing. I’m grooving on it, too. Haven’t shot it yet, though.

      They make normal guns, too. I’ve never been a bullpup fan, but after handling hers, I get it now.

      • R C Dean

        Clicked too soon.

        This is a very handy, quick quick quick rifle. It points very well. Can’t wait for her to shoot it. Since I’m a righty, I doubt I ever will.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      While I was sort of aware of the firearm, my first thought was that it was some sort of masturbation aid. I am not sure what that says about me or you.

  16. Sensei

    So earlier this week I read the ISS commander is now Akihiko Hoshide. It’s an unusual name even by Japanese standards, but the characters used are straight out of Hollywood central casting.

    星出 彰彦

    The meaning of the characters for his last name can be read as “from the stars”. Truly bizarre.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Queue up foreboding … dun.. dunt… daaaaa music before the scene change.

  17. Shpip

    Well, now I have some goals.

    ‘The Ameriguns’ by Gabriele Galimberti. The photographer traveled across the United States to meet proud gun-owners, see their firearms collections and photograph them in their homes and neighborhoods.

    • pistoffnick

      I’ll just say that an 18 gun safe doesn’t hold 18 fully equipped guns.

      It is the reverse of toilet paper roll math.

      • Bobarian LMD

        12 single barrel shot guns and 6 compact pistols.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        12 gauge with a mag feed, easier,

      • pistoffnick

        Also, mebee I’m a bit squeamish, but I wouldn’t let anyone photograph me with all of my guns.

        That seems like a self-doxx and a “career limiting move”.

      • slumbrew

        “Sorry, nothing to photograph – they were all lost in a horrible boating accident”

      • Tejicano

        “Where’s the boat?.. Well, yeah, …it sank! That’s what happened.”

      • Chafed

        All those pretty women on the cover of Vogue aren’t wearing their own clothing. Who says those are your guns?

  18. Yusef drives a Kia

    And it’s raining like a motherfucker, my house is a Bass Drum,

    • Shpip

      Hottest girl I ever dated (up to that point in my life) was a redhead. Model, dancer, was in one of the “good” sororities at an SEC school.

      I had to learn the hard way about “Never stick it in crazy.” Didn’t realize that it came with the territory.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        I married mine, a Vol.

        but “crazy” ain’t the only vector: pure evil can be right under the surface for decades, it turns out

    • DEG

      No face diapers. Good.

  19. Tulip

    I will check this out. Meanwhile, I am enjoying The Fastest Car on Netflix.

    • Sensei

      Never heard of it. Quickly jumps to Wiki. Wonder how much reality and how much scripted.

      I’m far from an exotic car guy, but they aren’t designed only as quarter mile machines.

      • slumbrew

        Exactly – for the follow-up, let’s see those “sleeper cards” on Nürburgring.

      • slumbrew

        Slumbrewed it – spotted the typo as I hit the button:

        “sleeper cars”

        You’d think I would learn to proofread.

      • Sensei

        Personally I’m too old to have a teeth rattling car anymore. I’ll take a GT car or regular 911 or 718.

      • Tulip

        Eh, I like seeing all these people build up their own cars. People, building stuff!

      • Sensei

        As do I. Problem is when they realized there was money in it they focused much more on the drama and creating it and not so much the building on lots of shows.

        And now the shows that focus on actually building are 30 minute infomercials.

    • slumbrew

      Were you the Glib watching Drive to Survive on Netflix? If so, did you stick with it?

      • Tulip

        Yes! I watched all but the last episode of season 3. I enjoyed it.

      • slumbrew

        Good stuff indeed – sucked me right into F1 world.

        I want to spend a night drinking with Guenther Steiner, the most German of Italians.

    • rhywun

      I remember this story from yesterday when it was an English street preacher doing the same thing.

      Europe is like Cliff Notes from America’s near future.

    • Q Continuum

      “Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones”

      hawt

      • Chafed

        Pics?

  20. Hank

    “There is no compelling reason to suffer through the humiliating bromance with woke capitalists, “battered woman syndrome”-style, while corporate America makes ­itself clearer than ever before that it hates Republican voters’ guts. Whether it is on human sexuality, the right to life for unborn children, gun rights, immigration sanity or a host of other issues, woke capital treats the Republican Party as more of an enemy than it would ever dream of treating sadistic ­detention facility managers in Xinjiang, China.

    “Republicans should stop trying to prevent the unpreventable and permit its amicable divorce from corporate America to continue apace. Indeed, that divorce is a “blessing,” as The Post’s op-ed editor, Sohrab Ahmari, argued in January. The GOP’s brightest future lies in the multiracial working-class political coalition — not in the C-suite.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/02/theres-no-stopping-the-gops-divorce-from-big-business/

    • Q Continuum

      So much this. The Dems are relying so heavily on the race-baiting to try and keep their Frankenstein’s Monster coalition from falling apart. They realize that their policies will completely fuck over working-class minorities so they have to try and use fear to keep them in line.

    • slumbrew

      “Please don’t hit us again”

    • Tejicano

      Once again, the BabylonBee feels the walls of reality closing in.

    • LJW

      Of course target loves it. They can afford the hit from the rioters, their competition can’t.

      • Chafed

        I doubt they love it. Insurance costs money and those premiums are going to rise.

  21. straffinrun

    I suppose a link to content is what passes for content these days.

    • slumbrew

      Post some drawings, dude.

      • straffinrun

        Not much free time. Just giving WS a little of the biz.

      • slumbrew

        As you should. Otherwise he gets bored and starts overthrowing sovereign nations.

      • slumbrew

        Niiice.

        Angles are weird on the original photo – Carters look like they’re Real Dolls (extra weird ones).

      • Bobarian LMD

        I guess they’re close enough to death that masks aren’t an issue anymore?

      • Gender Traitor

        The quality at Madame Tussauds is definitely slipping.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Needs moar Herbie Hancock to Rockit.

      • one true athena

        Heh

        I’m tempted to swap out Biden’s head for Trump’s. The photo’s distortion makes Biden look yuuuge.

      • Plinker762

        bigly

      • Chafed

        I love the portrait in the background.

  22. Hank

    “Cory Clark Ph.D.

    “AntiSocial Psychologist

    “The Gender Gap in Censorship Support

    “Research suggests women favor inclusivity over academic freedom.

    “KEY POINTS

    “In a 2019 study, 59% of women said protecting free speech was less important than promoting an inclusive society, while 71% of men felt opposite.

    “Two recent studies of online adults revealed that women were more censorious than men.

    “This gender gap appears smaller among young adults, with both young men and young women having censorship preferences similar to adult women.”

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-antisocial-psychologist/202104/the-gender-gap-in-censorship-support

  23. mexican sharpshooter

    I caught this over the weekend while I was cleaning my pool. It brought to mind the maxim credited to Max Planck, “science progresses one funeral at a time.”

    • straffinrun

      Caught what?

      • hayeksplosives

        The ‘Bud? SEA SMITH? Who knows…

      • hayeksplosives

        How “the Vid” became “the Bud” is beyond me.

      • Chafed

        An exotic beer?

    • Chafed

      “when David Goggins finishes a set, the weights take a rest.” lol.

      • slumbrew

        I know you’re a Goggins fan but he strikes me as a dude who will get you seriously injured.

        I “toughed it out” through elbow pain when I was doing a lot of chin-ups and ended up with life-long damage.

      • Chafed

        I think he will get injured himself and keep going. I’m not sure he would deliberately push someone else into getting injured. But I take your point. At 56,I love his attitude and find it motivating. When I’m working out and something doesn’t feel right I use my judgment. If I’m being as soft then I push on. If something really isn’t right then I stop.

    • slumbrew

      70’s, yo. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

    • Gustave Lytton

      The nature of monkey is irrepressible.

  24. grrizzly

    Oktoberfest 2021 has been cancelled. Sorry, DEG.

    • hayeksplosives

      What the what??! In Bavaria or someplace in Wisconsin?

      • dbleagle

        They held it while we and the British were dropping bombs on their heads. WTF Bayern?

      • TARDis

        Good times breed weak men, etc.

      • grrizzly

        The Munich one. They didn’t feel they could organize a festival for everyone and they didn’t want to do it just for the vaccinated.

        Auch in diesem Jahr kein Oktoberfest wegen Corona
        Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
        MÜNCHEN. Das Oktoberfest fällt auch in diesem Jahr aus. Angesichts der Corona-Pandemie sagte die Stadt München das größte Volksfest der Welt ab. Oberbürgermeister Dieter Reiter (SPD) und der bayerische Ministerpräsident Markus Söder (CSU) kamen in einer Videokonferenz mit anderen Bürgermeistern bekannter Feststädte darin überein, dass sowohl der Gesundheitsschutz als auch die wirtschaftliche Planbarkeit Absagen unumgänglich machten. Feste nur für Geimpfte lehnten sie ab. Reiter sagte, Volksfeste müssten für alle angstfrei zugänglich sein. „A bissl Wiesn geht ned.“

  25. hayeksplosives

    Someone told me The 13th Warrior is a good flick, worth watching.

    Opinions? Advice?

    Danke.

      • dbleagle

        Worth a watch but not great. Much male cheesecake bodies for those who enjoy that thing.

        It gets some parts of Norse society and mythologies more or less correct, but ultimately is a fantasy.

        Like I said, worth a watch for free or cheap.

      • hayeksplosives

        Thanks, UCS and Eagle!

    • Ask your doctor if BEAM is right for you

      I thought it was a rather underrated movie that did poorly at the box office. I enjoyed it, and Antonio Banderas does a great job of chewing northern B.C.’s scenery. The mead scene in the latter part of the movie made my day.

      • hayeksplosives

        Probably will watch some brainless evening.

    • straffinrun

      If only you could pick up a foreign language by sitting around the campfire and listening to native speakers talk.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        I think that properly motivated by needing to know if these people were going to skewer you or not. I thought that part was fun though.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      It is an interesting little flick and Antonio is his fabulous self. The voyage at the beginning is great, the second half… meh.

      • hayeksplosives

        I’ll put it in the brain candy category then. No need to set up a perfect cinematic experience.

        Thanks.

    • Urthona

      Pretty predictable. The Vikings always beat the Bears.

      • hayeksplosives

        Oh, sick burn!

        Lol.

        I was at TCF stadium (the U of Minnesota field where the Vikings had to play out the 2010 season after the Metrodome collapsed under snow weight) when Favre played his last game.

        The college field wasn’t heated underneath the turf, so when Favre was tackled by Bears Corey Wooten, Favre got another concussion against the frozen turf.

        He got up and started walking to the wrong sideline until he was steered to the Vikings bench. He then asked “What are the Bears doing here?”

        Poor ol Favre. I hope he recognizes his future grandchildren.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        *glares in Walter Peyton*

    • LCDR_Fish

      The Michael Crichton book was better.

      “Eaters of the Dead”

      • LCDR_Fish

        Btw – wasn’t that Antonio Banderas playing an Arab? Totally cancelled.

      • Suthenboy

        “Eaters of the Dead”

        Yeah…Neanderthal sites have been found with human bones in them…those bones having cut and teeth marks on them. Before anyone gets too repulsed, human sites from the same period had Neanderthal bones with cut and teeth marks on them. The good ol’ days were days of horror. The ‘boogey man’ isn’t some critter that just came out of thin air. Once upon a time he was real and a lot scarier than the tales we tell now. I am sure the Neanderthals told the same kind of stories about us. Us…oh wait…I have significant Neanderthal genes.

        *whistles and walks away*

  26. hayeksplosives

    Earlier today there was a link about eliminating or reducing beef consumption for “the environment”.

    On Friday, I got a call from the doctor at the “Coumadin” (warfarin) clinic. Apparently tweaking warfarin levels is very important and very tricky.

    The doc had me change the hubby’s dose, but also remarked on his anemia. He told me, and I kid you not, that I should cook him a big rare steak to feed his blood.

    It was dialog straight out of Moonstruck, but he was dead serious.

    So out with the “cut back on red meat” advice from the so-called nutritionist, and in with the bloody steak advice.

    Follow the SCIENCE!!

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      When people make definitive pronouncements regarding human biology, my snake oil detector goes to red. Due to the fact that we do not see experimenting on humans (rightly, IMO) as an ethically sound practice, the biological science into H. sapiens is much less well developed as it is in other fields of biology. This means that there is an absurd amount of space for neer do wells to short circuit the correlation is not causation principle. They exploit the fact that empirical data regarding humans is necessarily correlational and dissecting people to find the causal link is a non-starter, they have the freedom to assert their pseudoscience as fact.

      • hayeksplosives

        When I was listening to the nutritionist, I made some throwaway snarky comment about the government food pyramid.

        I swear she took it as a personal affront.

        When she recommended a butter substitute instead of butter, any credibility she might have had was lost.

        Then she told me that a plant-based diet would be best. I had to stifle my inner Ron Swanson so that I could pass their tests and break my husband out of hospital prison.

      • Suthenboy

        Can those plants be made of meat?

        I would not have been able to resist.

      • Suthenboy

        Oh, ‘splosives, as for The 13th warrior the movie is ok. It is based on some interesting history. It is a mashup of Beowulf and the annals of Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān ibn al-ʿAbbās ibn Rāšid ibn Ḥammād. Reading his annals it appears, in my opinion, that he was an eye witness to living Neanderthals.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan

      • Suthenboy

        Funny you should mention that….in the annals of two many cooks in the kitchen….
        Mrs. Suthenboy is making beef stew today.
        Around these here parts there is a competition as to who is going to cook, her or myself, but not the way it is in most households. We both love to cook.
        I would start with a blonde roux, add beef stock….she is going to skip the roux.
        No matter, I get out of the way when she is cooking. She and myself in the kitchen is two many cooks in the kitchen. I will let y’all know how it turns out.

        *two many cooks…I didnt want to miss one right over the plate.

    • Suthenboy

      Sad yes, but not unsurprising.

    • Gender Traitor

      I have virtually no international travel experience (and not nearly enough domestic travel experience,) but I feel it’s always a wise policy to stay off mass transit in the developing world.

      Good morning, Sean, Suthen, ::glances below:: TARDy, and Teh Hype.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s a wise policy to stay off mass transit.

        And avoid taxis.

      • Gender Traitor

        What’s your position on Uber, motorcycles, and bicycles? (And don’t say “seated.”)

        Good morning to you, too.

      • UnCivilServant

        Uber is a Taxi, and two weels are insufficient to carry a vehicle.

      • Gender Traitor

        There IS something in between. The only type of motorcycle I’d consider, if I were considering a motorcycle, which I generally am not.

      • Gender Traitor

        One of the few things I remember from HS Geometry is that three points constitute a plane, so they have that going for them, anyway.

        Make a model in which the driver compartment is enclosed, climate-controlled, and has a radio, and we’ll talk.

      • Gender Traitor

        ::DDGs this strange, new-to-her word:: Why, yes! Yes, I do! 😀

      • Suthenboy

        My father, an engineer, worked in Mehico for years. He said the standard practice is to draw in 5X the rebar needed for any construction as the Mehican contractors will steal most of it. Stay away from mass transit and high-rise buildings in the ‘developing’ world. Also, there are no aggregates in the Middle East that do not react with concrete. Buildings there dont last long. They fall down all of the time.

      • TARDis

        Miami says hello.

    • rhywun

      Yikes. 🙁

      NYC has ~88 miles of elevateds.

      Fortunately they’re all 100+ years old so probably built properly.

      • UnCivilServant

        But poorly maintained and likely to fall down.

      • Fourscore

        Raise ticket prices, get a Biden Bump for Infrastructure. Enough for maintenance and the grift. Some quantity limitations may apply.

    • TARDis

      “While we are putting this plate in your noggin’, we’re just going to give these two little tubes down here a quick snip, okay?”

    • Suthenboy

      is that from one of those ‘Redneck engineering’ videos?

    • The Hyperbole

      Is ‘accident’ the correct term for a misadventure that begins with “hold my beer”?

      • Suthenboy

        This made me laugh.

        As with most disasters it puzzles me why they couldn’t see that coming.

        “See those two steel rails on either side of you? See that bright light up ahead? Hear that loud, blaring whistle? Move away. No, no, not that direction, to the *splat*.
        Well, shit. There goes another one.”

    • Suthenboy

      Yep. Thievery is for idiots. You robbed a gas station? You threw away your life for what? The cash in the Quickey Mart register? How much do they really think is there? It won’t even pay their bail.
      Look around your house. Look around most houses. Do you see anything worth stealing? Someone takes it and hocks it for less than the gas money it takes to drive to the fence. They risked getting shot or arrested for that? Idiots.
      That is leaving aside the immorality of stealing or threatening someone’s life for weekend beer money.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Impulsive people lacking self-control and without a sense of a good risk to reward are going to make bad decisions. Always have unfortunately and always will.

      • TARDis

        True true. But if you can get the cops to kill you on video, you can be a national hero and make your worthless family rich too.

  27. Fourscore

    Mornin’ to all the early arrivals. Looks like the early daylight is bringing more folks here to post. I’ve been up for an hour already but always read the over night chatter first.

    • The Gunslinger

      Morning 4×20.

      • Fourscore

        All is getting better. Had a longer night’s sleep last night. The recurring pain changed to one where I thought I could feel the individual parts, I took that as a good sign that the healing is taking place. Thanks for asking.

        Took a shower last night without any help from the missus. She was happy about that, ’til she remembered 50 years ago I was begging, too.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning from Eastern Daylight Time to you, sir! I hope you’re up because you WANT to be and not because you can’t sleep comfortably. I also hope we early-birds entertain you.

    • Suthenboy

      How are you Sir? Well, I hope. Early daylight? I did not realize you were that Far East of me. I thought Minnie Soda was more or less directly north of me. It is nearly an hour before daylight here.
      I actually got a bit of sleep last night. I am not sure how that happened. I guess three days with no sleep will do that to me. Not only sleep but no bad dreams. I had a dream I have had before, years ago. It was a bit odd because in the dream I remembered it and through the whole thing I was thinking ‘I know what is going to happen next’. Very mundane dream so makes me wonder if it was from some event that happened in my past that I have forgotten about.

      How are you feeling this morning?

      • Fourscore

        Morning All, We do get longer daylight because of the tilt. I get up many times at night, old guys do that. Every day is better. I too have bad dreams but as Freud is purported to have said, “Sometimes a dream is just a dream”. If not him, maybe someone else. Completely disassocitative from reality.

        Like an early James Brown, “I Feel Good” but he danced better. Beginning to have better appetite. Just takes more time. All is well. A friend came by yesterday, I gave him my garden seeds and he’s going to share his garden. Win-win.

    • Tulip

      Good morning fourscore! Glad you are healing.

  28. Gender Traitor

    I just learned there’s a special election here today, but the only thing on the ballot in my precinct is a police renewal levy. I have an exercise class after work, so the only option would be to leave early and vote before work. Should I prepare to leave early, or stick around here and chat with you lot until I HAVE to get ready for work?

    • The Gunslinger

      Morning GT. That reminds me. Our school district is doing a “build 2021” campaign to raise money for school buildings. I gotta go vote hell no.

    • Suthenboy

      Do I recommend us or voting on something that has already been decided? Hmmm…*tugs chin*. What to do…what to do….

    • Gender Traitor

      The cat just made my decision for me. Of course, he’s in favor of me staying home from work entirely, so there are practical limits to how much weight his opinion carries.

      • Gender Traitor

        (Narrator: It’s what she really wanted to do anyway.)

      • The Gunslinger

        Enjoy your pussy(cat). Am I allowed to say that?

      • Gender Traitor

        Sure, ‘slinger! You can mention my feline companion animal, too!

      • Festus

        I know the kitty is black but just this one time call him red…

      • Suthenboy

        I have told this before…a couple of eggheads were tugging their chins and speculating on how humans domesticated dogs.
        Me: ” Neither one of you have a dog, do you?” *blank stares* “You are under the impression that we domesticated them. That is cute.” *chuckles*

      • Festus

        Ponders how I suddenly gained brownie points when Judi went vegan…

    • Gender Traitor

      The NYT shows remarkable restraint not coming out and saying, “Isn’t this the greatest idea ever???”

    • Suthenboy

      ….and they are going to discover what? Then do what about it? The whole cootie bug theater is so transparent.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “ and in one widely publicized episode scaled the steps of Parliament.”

      Sounds horrible but I don’t have the time to look for any vids of this incident. That being said, aren’t steps by their very definition in place to be scaled?

      • Gender Traitor

        The members of said Parliament consider their function to be to lift them above the mere citizenry with maximum stability.

  29. Festus

    Morning’ Friends! Internet is out yet again. Looks like I missed the latest breakdown. Typing on my phone
    Please bear with me.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Fes! I really must evict the cat from my lap and clean up for the day job. Hope you get a good day’s sleep when you’re ready!

      • Festus

        The pup and I will eat well. Who knew that dogs don’t dig tofu?

    • Sean

      Mornin’ Festus and the rest of y’all.

      • Festus

        A fine one to you as well!

    • Festus

      Didn’t dig the tune but the positive vibes were noted and appreciated. And now, THE WHORES!