Sunday Morning Chaotic Links

by | May 2, 2021 | Daily Links | 134 comments

I know I’ve been whining about disorder, but seriously, things get worse daily. Wonder Dog is now demanding that we take her to the vet to transition; she identifies as a sheep. She goes outside, grazes on grass, and lets out a “Grrrrrrrbaaaaaa!” every few minutes. I’m not sure how much more of this I can take.

Birthdays today include a woman renowned for her horsemanship; the most reviled human by the oh-no-we’re-not-antisemitic Left; a piece of shit who embodied the old saying about small minds; the bane of Snoopy’s existence; the guy who ruined my generation; the patron saint of Spudalicious and me; a guy who played in the best version of my favorite rock band; a guy who truly sucks; and a guy who played in my least favorite version of one of my other favorite bands.

That dispensed with, we restore things to order with various and sundry Sunday links.

 

Somebody is pissed that Rodgers wants to leave the Packers.

 

First I’ve ever heard of crypto-goyim.

 

Another foreign policy win for OMB seems to be falling apart under Team Blue.

 

Another one bites the dust.

 

You know who else thought Germany’s laws weren’t tough enough…

 

“I swear, it was THIS big!”

 

This was not me. Seriously.

 

Old Guy Music is not only appropriate, it’s one that every time I hear it, I can’t help grabbing my flute and wailing away. Wonder Dog does not appreciate that and reciprocates by howling. Anyway…

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Old Man With Candy

Old Man With Candy

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me. Wait, wrong book, I'll find something else.

134 Comments

  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    A Flautist? I did not know, very Tull of you,
    Mornin Everyone!

  2. Count Potato

    Biden is going to start a war between the Norks and Muslims.

  3. Count Potato

    “MLB provided no further details on the 2014 incident, citing the accuser’s right to privacy.”

    So maybe complete bullshit?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The Star Chamber doesn’t need to answer your questions. Organizations are so wussified and corrupted now that I just assume that the accused was likely railroaded (but who knows, it’s impossible to tell).

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Greenwald tore into the cult of accusation yesterday.

      https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-left-continues-to-destroy-itself

      That is because, as has been seen repeatedly, the prevailing mentality in left-liberal politics is that even grave life-destroying accusations are to be treated as true without the need for any evidence. They casually and with apparent glee ruin people’s reputations and lives without batting an eye the second someone utters an allegation of sexual misconduct. And one is required to mindlessly accept such accusations as truth — never ask for evidence if it is true — if one wishes to remain in good standing in those circles and to avoid being smeared oneself as an apologist for sexual misconduct.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Good article, Greenwald’s one of the few leftists that understand that the general cancel culture behavior of which this is a part will bite everybody in the ass eventually, them included. Hell, look at what happened to this poor schlub, not sexual misconduct but a similar feeding frenzy based on an even stupider premise:

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/e2-80-98jeopardy-e2-80-99-contestant-calls-alleged-white-power-hand-sign-e2-80-98terrible-misunderstanding-e2-80-99/ar-BB1gbN4F

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        When you provide people with an easy way to destroy people and gain social status in the process, they’re going to use it.

      • EvilSheldon

        “They casually and with apparent glee ruin people’s reputations and lives without batting an eye…”

        Yup. Progressives are Mean Girls who never grew up.

  4. UnCivilServant

    Morning, Old Man.

    I’m afraid I have to get on the road soon. So I’ll be gone most of the day.

    Later, Glibs.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Peace out U! see you in the Morning…

    • Fourscore

      Where you headed? Masked stranger? Be safe

  5. The Late P Brooks

    I am watching one of the greatest movies ever made: A New Leaf.

    Walter Matthau and some of the best dialogue ever to make its way to the screen. Also, a Ferrari 250 GTO.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      With rainbows and puppies

    • Spartacus

      The real purpose has already been achieved.

    • topnotchtoledo

      Why aren’t you tired of posting this stupid horseshit everyday?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Why do you continue to read it, asshole,

      • Old Man With Candy

        Why do you answer that?

        (still have no idea who she is)

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Lets say, a history,

      • Trigger Hippie

        Poetry is for fags.

        😉

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        The (short-lived?) truce was pleasant to observe.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        This Gal gets ^

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        war room, yada yada

      • topnotchtoledo

        Go back to begging for money and threatening to kill yourself.

      • Mad Scientist

        Because there weren’t enough stupid horse shit threads to like to on twitter?

    • The Gunslinger

      Nope. Incredible curves and tiny waist.

  6. Grummun

    grabbing my flute and wailing away

    Phrasing?

  7. mock-star

    “a piece of shit who embodied the old saying about small minds”

    I home I grew up in was once owned by her family. We would find letters from her in our attic. I have no idea what ever happened to them. It was such a neat house, built in the 1840s.

    • mock-star

      *The home I grew up in…..*

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Legit cool story! PA, huh?

  8. TARDis

    I going to start doing my taxes. I should be full of piss and vinegar for the rest of the day. Or until the drinking begins at least.

    TAXATION IS THEFT!

    • Fourscore

      IRS is a criminal organization by definition then

      • Suthenboy

        I hope you got some rest. No luck here.

        The entire FedGov is a criminal organization. That became glaringly obvious over the last 20 years but their criminality seems to be accelerating.

      • Fourscore

        I did, tucked into the recliner with a blanket about 4, woke up after 6. As long as it works I guess I’ll keep doing it. Had my breakfast, ready for a nap.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Busted

    The New York Times, The Washington Post and NBC News walked back their reporting about FBI’s communication with President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani regarding Russia.

    Sources familiar with the reporting said it was unequivocally true in spirit.

  10. Fourscore

    Wonder Dog is looking for some of SP’s home cooking. Somehow turning her/him out to pasture doesn’t seem to be the same thing. Lighten up, OM, share some of your breakfast meat. She/he will love you for it and you can get some exercise cutting the grass, rather than relying on a family member.

    • Tonio

      “share some of your breakfast meat”

      He’s vegetarian, yo.

      • Old Man With Candy

        My breakfast meat is Impossible and Beyond. She’s just as happy with that.

        In actuality, my breakfast today is leftover pizza from dinner last night with C Anacreon and his charming wife.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        You get to meet all the cool people!
        /kicks disc, never meets anyone

      • Fourscore

        Honey Harvest, 3rd Sunday in Sep, meet the Midwest gaggle of super interesting people. 2020- Biggest viewing of
        Glibs ever!

        May have some from faraway Glibland, too, we never know.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I’ll be there this year for sure, it always sounds like a blast,

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Something about the Great Lakes seems to breed Glibs; there and Virginia. /pouts too

      • Ozymandias

        I’ll be coming from KC area this year. Very doable drive.
        Means I can bring goodies for barter and have room to take back in trade.

      • Mojeaux

        I can’t go, but maybe I will send lemon sugar cookies (my specialty) with you.

        Let me know when you have an evening free, and Mr Mojeaux and I will take you and the missus to our favorite restaurant.

      • Ozymandias

        I will, Miss Mojo. And happy to ferry items up to those NoDak-Minnie Glibs.
        I expect we’ll get settled in around late-June. Just a guess on when the homeselling-homebuying-moving shitshow is finished. That may be optimistic, too.
        I need a small favor, so I’m sending you an email in a few minutes.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Oppression of the poor worthy of Dickensian villains

    Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds (R) on Friday signed into law a new bill condemned by housing advocates and city officials that would allow landlords to turn away tenants who receive Section 8 vouchers to help them pay rent.

    The bill, which passed in both chambers of the Republican-controlled Iowa General Assembly in March, prohibits counties from adopting laws that would prohibit a landlord “from refusing to lease or rent out a dwelling unit to a person because of the person’s use of a federal housing voucher issued by the United States department of housing and urban development.”

    The measure, which goes into effect Jan. 1, 2023, will override laws preventing the practice currently in place in three Iowa cities: Des Moines, Iowa City and Marion.

    ——-

    Landlord groups backed the law, with Iowa Landlords Association Executive Director Andrew Lietzow telling the Register, “We try to train our members on the advantages of accepting Section 8, or housing choice vouchers, but our preference is that it would remain a voluntary program.”

    Landlord groups have argued that the vouchers contain several requirements that have become obstacles for landlords, including additional inspections and challenges with regaining the money spent on repairing damages to properties.

    However, housing advocates and city officials have pushed back against the law, arguing that it will disproportionately harm people of color and residents with disabilities, who make up a large share of voucher holders in Iowa.

    Property owners pretending they should have a say in who they rent to? Outrageous.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Why is there an affordable housing shortage? Gosh, it’s a mystery.

      • Fourscore

        Because no one can find employees. Effect, cause?

  12. The Late P Brooks

    The Iowa law has gained national condemnation as well, with HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge suggesting in an interview with MSNBC’s Joy Reid in March that the measure could face a lawsuit from the federal government.

    “It is a discussion that I would need to have with the Department of Justice, but I would clearly believe that we are within our rights to demand that these communities cooperate with what we are doing,” Fudge told MSNBC at the time, adding that “fair housing is the law of the land.”

    “If they want to get into a fight about it, we’re ready to fight them about it,” she said.

    One size must fit all. We will beat the wreckers and hoarders into submission.

    • slumbrew

      demand that these communities cooperate

      That’s not exactly cooperation if you’re forcing them to do what you want. The word you want is “comply”. As in, “comply, serf”.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Stop resisting!

  13. slumbrew

    That J-Post story is… odd. “They’re missionaries!”, except there’s no evidence of proselytizing.

    Some sort of grift, perhaps, but the lead accusation is bizarre.

  14. leon

    Morning you miscreants!

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Howdy! Leon, whats shakin?

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Circular reasoning is circular

    Transgender people who are able to receive gender-affirming surgery reported improved mental health outcomes, according to a new study published Wednesday.

    Okay. That settles that.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      As the Decline continues….

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      What do people with body integrity dysphoria report after amputation?

  16. Trigger Hippie

    ‘…we will be compelled to press for corresponding measures, and with time the U.S. will find itself in a very grave situation.’

    Yank, yank, yank. The Norks always bluster under a new U.S. administration hoping to score more graft.

    Not that I don’t think the Being There Presidency couldn’t blunder badly but until they do I’m not particularly worried about that little puppet state.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    “This study adds to a growing body of evidence showing affirmation in all forms can be life-saving for trans and gender-diverse people,” said lead author Anthony Almazan, a fourth-year medical student at Harvard Medical School, according to NBC News.

    He added, “Policies that limit access to care can put lives at risk. Our evidence shows we should be expanding gender-affirming care, not limiting it.”

    Harvard’s value-destruction campaign continues.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think this trend is going to make the history books.

      • Fourscore

        2084?

    • Tulip

      Lovely.

    • BakedPenguin

      Paste Fericit

    • Old Man With Candy

      DAMN YOU, PIE!

      Seriously, that look amazing.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I didn’t forget the one true date. 😉

      ??? Yum! Cute geraniums too.

    • egould310

      Sirene cheese under those peppers and tomatoes?

      • PieInTheSky

        Sufficiently similar local variety

      • egould310

        And what’s on the round plate between the loaf of bread and the green onions? What do you do with the green onions?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I was wondering too. A citrus plate? I see lemon.

      • PieInTheSky

        that plate has smoked salmon and lemon slices. The green onion is eaten raw with the cheese like the cherry tomatoes or bell pepper slices

      • egould310

        Well that all looks fabulous. Have a happy Easter.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    The death of Big Government has been greatly exaggerated.

    Joe Biden will transition America.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Yellin has the prime slot on Meet the Press. Foochy must be fuming.

    Don’t worry, America, we have plenty of checks, and we can always loot the corporations.

    The race to the bottom will end. Economic justice will prevail.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      If you ran a household like that, you’d be not just overdrawn but probably also on fire.

    • CatchTheCarp

      We got Bernie instead of Foochy, still harping about the 1%. Never change, asshole. I am perplexed how he keeps getting elected. Is Vermont densely populated with stupid people?

      • BakedPenguin

        As someone born in New Hampshire, I’ll say yes.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        DEG is probably best suited to answer that.

        Surely he and some of his peers are bound to retire soon, right?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Do you who else railed against one percent of the population but might have actually been one of them?

      • creech

        After the 1970s, it appears to be.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Interest rates are low low low. Free money will save us.

    Now she’s on to the “tax cheats” talking point.

  21. Suthenboy

    …And fried chicken.

    Wife agreed to cut my hair today, I am overdue. She said I have to pay for the service.

    “Oh? What do you want?”

    Her: “Fried chicken”

    I am off to buy the best fried chicken in three parishes. If there is better I dont know where it is.

    • hayeksplosives

      Look at the shit lord over here with the best fried chicken around while there are tens of millions of children starving (or at least facing food insecurity)!

      Where is the fried chicken justice??

      • Suthenboy

        On my plate.

        I also had the server toss in some egg rolls and buttered biscuits.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    “I appreciate you coming on and sharing those Democratic Party talking points.”

  23. BakedPenguin

    I kind of knew the recording engineer of early Frank Zappa & the Mothers albums. From Freak Out to Chunga’s Revenge.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Comrade Bernie is on. Workers of the World, Unite!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Why are you doing this to yourself?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I appreciate the pain and anguish that Brooksie endures on Sundays to provide us with a snarky summerization of what the talking head propagandist say on Sundays.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I’ll wait for the transcript.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Ah, there’s the lie.

    Poor people pay more taxes than rich people.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      That’s one of those half lies that might be true depending on how it’s parsed. Based on percentage of income, maybe but in terms of absolute dollars it’s so lopsided towards rich folk that it’s not even close.

  26. Ownbestenemy

    So the veterans group that got denied its permit and the firework denial at Rushmore should be answered with those two groups just moving forward with their plans.

    For the AMVETS unfortunately, they would be hounded down and arrested if they did.

    For Rushmore, what are the feds going to do? Invade a state that launches fireworks?

    • R C Dean

      + 1 Ft. Sumter.

      • Ownbestenemy

        And really that is what our political class has set up

    • Don Escaped Texas

      90% of access discord (40% of federal civil suits?) results from situations that shouldn’t exist at all: from the government’s illegitimate ownership of property or injection in commerce.

      If Rushmore were on private property, this would be no one’s business except the owners.

      There is no correct answer to the problems that result from illicit structures; any “resolution” will be arbitrary and temporary.

  27. Count Potato

    “Powerful teachers union influenced CDC on school reopenings, emails show

    The American Federation of Teachers lobbied the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on, and even suggested language for, the federal agency’s school-reopening guidance released in February.

    The powerful teachers union’s full-court press preceded the federal agency putting the brakes on a full re-opening of in-person classrooms, emails between top CDC, AFT and White House officials show.

    The emails were obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative watchdog group Americans for Public Trust and provided to The Post.

    The documents show a flurry of activity between CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, her top advisors and union officials — with Biden brass being looped in at the White House — in the days before the highly-anticipated Feb. 12 announcement on school-reopening guidelines….”

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/teachers-union-collaborated-with-cdc-on-school-reopening-emails/

    This is my surprised face.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Your winnings, Major.

  28. Don Escaped Texas

    “When you provide people with an easy way to destroy people and gain social status in the process, they’re going to use it.”

    It’s a-symetrical warfare, which surprises no one, but what should the answers be and what were the old answers?

    I understand the resentments, but what are the real options and value propositions? Don’t like running a dangerous weaver all day in Leeds? Maybe it’s really not so bad or you would have high-tailed it back to your dad’s farm to slop pigs in good old Subsistence-on-SuckRocks.

    Running away with the circus or staking a claim in the Sierras don’t work any more. We’re so advanced that any underclass job still affords running water, AC, and interwebs . . . an plenty of time to blog your resentments.

    Time was that running your own brand, learning a trade, prospecting clients, and making hay kept a man busy all week. Now his children sit around, play video games, and bitch about injustices real and imagined. Build your own mousetrap (excellence and work) never come up; tear someone else down is the preferred vector.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Rich people- oh, how we hates and fears them

    The mountain hamlet of Crested Butte, Colorado, covers less than a square mile and, at an elevation of nearly 9,000 feet, it is taller than it is wide. So when a Chicago-based billionaire began quietly buying up its historic buildings, residents took note.

    “I was alarmed that someone would come in and buy up so much commercial property in the community,” former Gunnison County Commissioner Jim Starr told The Daily Beast. “That had not happened before. We’ve got few owners who own two or three different commercial properties. But the scale of this was larger than what we have seen previously.”

    The billionaire in question is investment banker Mark Walter. An intensely media-averse figure, the CEO of Guggenheim Partners has accumulated a net worth of approximately $5.3 billion, according to Forbes, with little fanfare. His most overtly public move came in 2012, when Walter joined forces with Magic Johnson and several other entertainment figures to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers for a record-breaking $2.15 billion.

    ——-

    “He’s been very—I wouldn’t say ‘secretive’—but certainly not forthcoming with what he’s going to be doing with the buildings,” Crested Butte Mayor Jim Schmidt told The Daily Beast. Realtor Eric Roemer echoed the uneasy feeling: “Nobody really knows what his game plan is.”

    ——-

    For a time several years ago, the town had an advertising slogan: “Crested Butte—what Aspen used to be, and Vail never was.” The joke was that Crested Butte was “the last great Colorado ski town,” one that hadn’t yet been bought up by even wealthier outsiders looking for a seasonal stay. But some residents are concerned that Walter’s investments may change that.

    “One of the concerns, of course, is that when people have more of the commercial properties like that, the rents tend to go up, which makes it harder for the business owners,” Starr said. “And we’ve got a real severe affordable housing shortage here, so this eventually could exacerbate that problem as well.”

    We’ll take his money, but that doesn’t give him the right to act like he owns the place.

    • Don Escaped Texas

      “rents tend to go up, which makes it harder for the business owners”

      There’s no where to hide from markets except in the mind where one can dream up emotional perspectives that have nothing to do with what something is worth.

      In the long run, every market reduces to mere economic profit; this notion may be be a bit beyond freshman micro, but anyone watching the world for very long on a TV made in China should pretty much get it by now.

      • Mojeaux

        Rents are going up here too, even in the bad neighborhoods.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Those old rockers have outgrown the angst that drove them to make good music in the first place. It’s not really their fault, it’s biological man.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Based on percentage of income, maybe but in terms of absolute dollars it’s so lopsided towards rich folk that it’s not even close.

    That’s the thing- Kindly Old Grandpa Buffett’s secretary might pay a higher effective rate, but it’s a miniscule dollar amount compared to what he pays.

    And where did those evil “loopholes” come from, anyway?

    • creech

      Did Buffett count his share of what Berkshire International paid in taxes?

      • Fatty Bolger

        Of course not. Probably didn’t look at her total compensation vs. just her salary, either.

  31. Mojeaux

    Mornin’, Old Man. Told Mr. Mojeaux about your sheep and he laughed.

    Hey, has anybody seen Brochettaward?

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Returning some videotapes? Lunching at Dorsia?

      No, since you ask.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    The Republican Party is now the Party of Grievance.

    And all those Republican nutballs at the state level doing what the people who voted them into office want them to do.

    O M G!

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Morning would

    9000 miles in 30 years? People who buy cars like this and never drive them should be thrashed with buggy whips.

    I never got the chance to drive one, but the people I know who have owned them say they’re as mechanically reliable as owning an Accord, but a whole lot more fun.

    • kinnath

      Well then, it will make you happy to know that my 350z has 105K miles on it.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Watch out for dips.

      Did you ever say which Thurber you’re reading?

  34. Toxteth O'Grady

    Re the top photo, NYC street signs not in all caps look weird to me.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Another New-in-Box-Never-Fired driveway ornament

    This Ford GT has never been titled and has been kept as part of a private collection since 2012. The car now shows just 27 miles

    I hate these people.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Did you ever say which Thurber you’re reading?

    I did not. “Alarms and Diversions” jumped off the shelf at me the other day.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I have a jpeg for you, or I will anyway. Will have to put it somewhere in forums because it would be too small as an avatar.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Fun fact- actor Sam Waterston used to live in Thurber’s old house in Cornwall Bridge, Connecticut, if I remember correctly.

  38. prolefeed

    How does a German judge expect to enforce an order to make their legislature pass specific legislation?

    That’d be like SCOTUS ordering the current Congress to pass legislation repealing all gun control legislation. That bill would never even get a hearing in committee, because which Democrat would choose to get primaried?

    • hayeksplosives

      German judges aren’t former lawyers who get appointed to the bench. They go to school to become a judge and then they get hired to do it.

      My former mother in law was one. I always thought it odd that she had become a judge in her 20s right out of school, but that’s their system.

      No idea how that plays into the law making though.

      • PieInTheSky

        No idea how that plays into the law making though. – just like here a bunch of 25 year olds judging… overall some work better than others but it would not be my preferred system

  39. CatchTheCarp

    On Meet the Press this morning Chuck “toadie” Todd was reviewing the results of a poll that showed that 55% of Americans believes the Fed Govt should do more for us. If that poll is accurate we are truly fucked.

    • Suthenboy

      Since when have any of the commie shitbirds told the truth about anything? Why would anyone expect them to start now? It is all projection and gaslighting with them all of the time.

  40. prolefeed

    OT: I was looking up what the LDS Church’s current prophet had done, after Mojeaux said he’d made some offputting changes, and it looked mostly innocuous or even laudable to me:

    1) Shortening Sunday meetings from three hours to two – hell yes.

    2) Allowing children of LGBQT couples to be baptized without getting special permission – about time.

    3) Ending the official participation of the Church in the Boy Scouts – Meh. Whatever.

    4) Allowing some missionaries to wear blue dress shirts or go tieless, if that works better in a particular locale – another meh.

    About the only bad thing I could see was caving to secular authorities on in person church services because of the Covidiots.

    Did I miss something else that was truly odious?

    • Mojeaux

      It’s the correlating changes that went along with the shortened block and their unintended consequences aimed at keeping people apart so as not to present any cultural cohesion.

      The Boy Scout thing may be meh to you, but it was a huge blow to our family. They promised a program to replace it and never followed through. It was not only our troop affected, but the church sponsored many non-member troops too. We can’t afford it otherwise.

      It would have been no big deal to fire up ye olde tabernacle for sacrament meeting and broadcast during wuflu, but they didn’t. Okay, fair, that costs money (which we have), but they forbade the wards and stakes from doing it too. They ALSO deigned to permit the priesthood holders to administer the sacrament to their families, but there should be no “permission” needing granted.

      Subtle vernacular changes that scream PLEASE, EVAGELICALS, PLEASE LIKE US!

      Lastly (for now), there is an indefinable gut instinct in me that tells me Nelson is not a man of God, and keeping us apart (via the changes corollary to the block shortening) is a key strategy.

    • Mojeaux

      In short, those particular points are TRUE, but the consequences go deep. I do not believe thry are unintended.

  41. rhywun

    Sorry, Germany. I feel bad for the likely large chunk of the country that doesn’t go along with being hijacked (and impoverished) by the enviro-lunatics.