Last Saturday I attended a Diamondbacks game. Sure, I’ll pause for laughter.
Let me snort all this cooooooke aaaaand sing!
Done? Good. I bring it up because Saturday was June 19th, and they had national anthem antics in that they sang “Lift Every Voice and Sing” before the ”Star Spangled Banner”. It sounds like church music, to be honest. I only bring it up because Dodger fans outnumbered Diamondbacks fans by an absurd margin (keep in mind, the game was in Phoenix) but even among them, none of the cheap-seater fans around me seemed terribly impressed.
Not the place I was looking for a white pill.
Now for some links!
Homicides are down. No, really. This was the equivalent to a “mass shooting” and overall the total homicides are down. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Over five years, 5.6 million people is a lot of refugees.
Who needs a legislative body when we can just empower assholes to make things up as they go?
You know exactly why, BBC. Peru is a hotspot for QAnon conspiracies.
One of their songs got stuck in my head. Now you get to deal with it.
Well, do they have black people in Pheonix?
Apparently, 6.5%
Anyway, this is the black national anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2azUt5d3Y
Although, it used to be this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmjUvgdzimo
I would have guessed this.
Sure, but they all live in Scottsdale.
I’m still digesting Ozy’s article.
Don’t know whether to yell DIRTY COMMIE or get drunk.
Why not both?
Always a reasonable choice
Many thoughts on that. One thing, Pooh Bear is a megalomaniac dictator who thinks he’s the one man answer for the affairs of 2 billion people, and the other 5 billion hairless monkeys on the planet, as well. I don’t see that ending well. We have to also remember that until now, for the past couple decades, China has been pretty much of a free range all open for business unregulated capitalistic free for all. Xi wants for that all to now be centrally controlled and tightly regulated. He’s about as close to a real commie as I suppose you can get. It sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. We all know real communism does not work. If they don’t get this guy out of there, he’ll take China back to the backwards agrarian society it was before they learned how they could defeat the West by emulating them.
I completely agree. No doubt in his mind he is the exception to the historical rule. This may be good news for the world. Far better for China’s abilities to slowly degrade over time.
The fact that they have large newly built cities that are ghost towns might be a clue for some people that you don’t just centrally plan everything. But what do I know. I can imagine 20 or so large cities being built in in Biden’s infrastructure bill becoming the American version of that. Oh, who am I kidding, they’ll spend 6 trillion and not even a mile of highway or a new bridge will get constructed, let alone a city.
Why do you hate union bosses, and environmental and DE&I consultants? You would deny them a living? Just because they produce nothing of value?
“You would deny them a living? Just because they produce nothing of value?”
Fair enough.
Yeah, it was a nut punch. As were the AM links.
I thought the music link was going to be one of their songs.
This is what Venezuelans wanted when they elected Chávez. Now they’re getting what they wanted, good and hard.
And all the Americans that cheered it on are strangely silent.
I’m looking at you Chomsky.
The only reason chavismo failed was yanqui imperialist interference!
The only part that might be unique is the size of the emigration. Other than that, it’s far too common in Latin American history.
That is what stops me from having any great sympathy for them.
“Over five years, 5.6 million people is a lot of refugees.”
That wasn’t real socialism! We’ll get it right this time, we have the right people. We got this school bus driver, he’s a genius!
Just wait until we get the equivalent percentage from Mexico when it fully transitions to “failed state”. 20% of Mexico is 25 million people, and won’t any of them be heading south.
They’re all gonna be here before it gets that bad.
Just remember, Glib comrades, there are going to be completely empty countries in Central America soon…
New homestead land?
Libertagua!
Woo hoo Free Water!
Yes. Some with Bitcoin as their national currency.
Chris Robinson needs moar calories.
Eating Pooh?
So, Ozy’s previous thread has now expired, as all good Glibs threads do, but I just wanted to say
”Thanks, Ozy.”
One of the reasons I love traveling so much is the mild shock I always get when I go to a new place and discover that, “yes, we love you Canucks, but no, we wouldn’t trade our passports for yours.” I’ve only been to one country where persons were openly envious of my being Canadian, and that country, oddly enough, was The Netherlands.
I would like to echo this sentiment.
It is entirely possible the average Chinese citizen is entirely unaware of the history behind their government’s underlying philosophy–or even history as of June 4, 1989 and as such is happy with the system they live in.
He didn’t find what any of us expected but he had the intellectual curiosity to ask around knowing he might be asling for trouble.
Thanks Ozy!
No thread has expired to us late arrivals.
Mr Castillo is a political newcomer, a left-wing primary school teacher from rural Peru who was little known before the first round of the election.
Some investors have expressed concern about his campaign promise to introduce higher taxes on mining firms in the copper-producing nation. Peru’s currency has been falling and is nearing an all-time low and there are fears that if he is declared the winner, the economy could be destabilised further.
Mr Castillo tried to allay some of those fears on 16 June when he said that he “would guarantee a stable economy, respecting private property and respecting private investment”.
“I promise I won’t beat you too hard.”
Sorry for the new link so soon, but I’ve got to get on a call.
Woke, Inc: Why I’m blowing whistle on how corporate America is poisoning society
I actually didn’t mind the film “The Prestige”. Not my favorite by a long shot, however.
I like the cut of his jib.
I just read that one earlier today. I think they guy is too apologetic to the left and that he should not have stepped down from his position. But that’s just my opinion. I suppose he did better than most CEOs by not being an entirely spineless jellyfish.
Oh Scientific American, how you have fallen:
To Counteract Propaganda, We Should Look to Lessons from Advertising
Coming from SA, this makes me spit. They’ve been among the worst perpetrators of bullshit science and creative omission in the past two decades.
Yup. They would do well to look in the mirror.
Fresh out of my MBA, I subscribed to both Scientific American and The Economist and read them near-religiously; then, sometime around ’92 or so, both of them started blithering on about Global Warming in every second article, and I cancelled both subscriptions.
What a waste. The Economist‘s “Schools Brief” section used to be gold.
About the same time I canceled National Geographic.
Because advertising is known as a bastion of truth-telling? Who sold them that horseshit?
Advertisers
I work in advertising. I may dramatize, but I never lie. It’s really something that pisses me off when others might do it.
Similar to sales, you have those that spin bullshit and get a sale and those that are honest and don’t get a sale but gain a customer.
Same here. Telling a story about something, but it still has to be a true story.
Someone here mentioned they were collecting old MAD magazine paperbacks the other day. One of the best was one called MADvertisting, a very funny and really surprisingly on-target takedown of advertising techniques. One bit I found memorable, and your mention of “dramatize, but never lie” brought back, was to announce something about your product having a quality that was true for all makers, but your rhetoric insinuated only you were exempt. The example they had was a box of cookies that boldly proclaimed on the front of the box: “And no one has ever died from eating our brand!!”
Can We Survive Extreme Heat?
Missing: the number of people who will no longer freeze to death.
This.
Also, Michael Mann is a no talent ass clown.
74 percent of the world’s population will be exposed to heat waves hot enough to kill
Compared to what percentage now? Remember, people die during heat waves in Europe right now.
What counts as “hot enough to kill”, anyway?
38,000 deaths a year, out of the global population, is decimal dust. Try harder, catastrophists.
Once the AC is turned off because electricity is only for the connected elite, a heck of a lot more will die and many more will wish it.
*checks weather in Phoenix*
We’ll survive.
This post originally appeared on Rolling Stone and was published August 2, 2019.
I guess a heat wave in the western states justified a little recycling.
I thought most of global warming resulted from higher lows in nights and winter rather than higher highs.
How many people live in Africa? And how many live in Antarctica?
Don’t know whether to yell DIRTY COMMIE or get drunk.
Have some Victory Gin.
We have always been dirty commies.
Why not both?
“The View’s Joy Behar is slammed as ‘homophobic’ for making crude joke about ‘penetration in the end zone’ and saying it’s ‘not that big a deal’ Carl Nassib has come out as first gay NFL player”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9713547/The-Views-Joy-Behar-slammed-homophobic-Carl-Nassib-NFL-joke.html
I guess Cam Newton missed his chance.
STEVE SMITH PENETRATE MORE THAN END ZONE
AND BY MORE… I MEAN PROLAPSE!
I don’t know if she’s homophobic. But idiot is definitely a fair description.
I think that’s the best thing to say about the situation, Hyperion.
it’s ‘not that big a deal’ Carl Nassib has come out as first gay NFL player”
She’s right about that, anyway.
NFL Player Announces He Is Gay, Is Switching Over To Soccer
The press then tried to ask him a question, but he flopped on the ground in pain, claiming to have been attacked by homophobes.
That was a great touch. I guess Nassib needs a visit from Mr. T. I’m sure he’d appreciate getting some nuts.
“REVEALED: Google funded virus research carried out by Wuhan-linked scientist Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance for over a decade”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712997/Google-funded-research-carried-Wuhan-linked-scientist-Peter-Daszaks-charity.html
That would explain why they buried searches on Daszak and Wuhan.
interesting that some of the Dark Horse stuff on Ivermectin has re-surfaced on youtube
“PICTURED: Woman, 19, shot dead by officer during Juneteenth parade after she opened fire on him from her car, leaving the cop sobbing on the floor afterwards”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9709769/Woman-shot-police-killed-cop-Juneteenth-event.html
No idea why she started shooting.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
Assuming she shot first, I would say she is both a bad person and a violent person.
Sounds like it was her shooting at him. Why would she do that? I don’t know that it matters. Once a trigger is pulled, motivation becomes pretty irrelevant.
“No idea why she started shooting.”
Because she was an imbecile, overexcited by the ravings of grievance mongering charlatans?
At least we are better than China wrt non-economic freedoms. Oh, wait…
Goddammit all to hell
*pans out to half buried statue of liberty crudely blacked out by Facebook*
*ape clap*
I don’t trust the WHO, Facebook, or our own health agencies so they can continue to eat themselves.
It’s like they’re in a competition to see who can be the most untrustworthy.
The WHO is aiding me right now because I am teaching my teens how to determine their own health risks and while I strongly discourage the vaccine being pushed, ultimately you have to decide for yourself with the information out there. Here is the much lauded WHO telling you don’t do it.
Ah man, that’s hilarious and by hilarious I mean not hilarious.
Let’s ask Fauci, he’s America’s doctor!
He is science!
Who doesn’t love America’s doctor? Who doesn’t love science!?
This may be the drugs falling out my butt talking, but apparently Democracy was stabbed to death by a “Latinidad” in a dark alley.
“The deprioritization of lived and racialized experiences in favor of a nonexistent mono-culture “Latinidad” has no function beyond fantasy.”
And then they go on to use the word Latinx.
No word salad there. Totally easy to understand.
“PAY ATTENTION TO ME, MOMMY!”
As much as I consider this repulsive, maybe there’s some sort of karma going on here for Miranda’s lionization of the execrable Alexander Hamilton.
Random numbers
Roughly 900 U.S. Secret Service employees tested positive for the coronavirus, according to government records obtained by a government watchdog group.
Secret Service records show that 881 people on the agency payroll were diagnosed with COVID-19 between March 1, 2020 and March 9, 2021, according to documents obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. More than 11% of Secret Service employees were infected.
Secret Service spokesperson Justine Whelan said COVID testing of employees was pro-active with more than 25,000 tests being administered.
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The records received through a Freedom of Information Act request did not include the names or assignments of those who tested positive. But more than half — 477 — worked in the special agent division, which is responsible for protecting the president and vice president, as well as the families of these leaders and other government officials.
CREW noted that the Trump administration took actions that risked exposure to Secret Service workers, but it could not verify a direct connection to possible infections because the identities of those infected remains private.
After President Donald Trump contracted COVID-19, he took a drive in his presidential vehicle as Secret Service personnel drove and protected him. The former president also held multiple large rallies and events, including the announcement of Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court, despite restrictions on public gatherings.
11%? How does that compare with grocery store clerks or plumbers or tax preparers?
But Trump needlessly put them all at risk.
I am more amazed that we have roughly 8000 secret service members….good lord.
They weren’t supposed to be a presidential bodyguard. Their original remit was counterfitting. They’ve added cybercrime to that. Protection detail is probably their smallest unit.
Formica or granite counters?
butcher block.
So what?
They are willing to take a bullet (supposedly) but not a virus?
!(^@#^% off
oh noes!
25K tests being administered
And the error rate for false positives on the test may be as high as 5%…
So there could have been 1250 false positives, so maybe no one in SS ever had the disease.
Math is fun, reporters are stupid, water is wet.
And we are back to tests. News hounds are desperate to have gloom-doom news on the COVID front AND they were able to tie in Trump. Win-Win.
They dramatize, not lie. 😉
Is it racist I don’t find the NBA interesting?
Is your skin white?
If yes then yes.
If no then maybe.
Finding the NBA interesting is just sad.
Haven’t watched more than 2 or 3 NBA games since Ron Artest reclined on the scorer’s table.
Twas the last straw for me, but general thuggery was only one of many reasons why I quit the NBA. I also hate sports/leagues where offense is prioritized over defense.
offense is prioritized over defense
Twas the start of the slow decline of the NFL being a priority in my house, now culminated in not having watched a single game in over 2 years. Hand brushed the quarter backs head? 15 year penalty! Back didn’t let the receiver catch the ball? Pass interference, 27 pts for the offense! I’m all for player safety, but the asymmetry was… annoying.
That and the glorification of the wiggle your ass all over the field in celebration and jump up as quick as you can to go do a dance and taunt. “Just let them have fun!” the announcers opine. Nah, that’s not having fun, that’s glorifying a toxic culture. So the leagues decent in woke-ism just re-enforced my default position of I ain’t watching you no more.
Haven’t watched am entire game since Bird retired. It’s boring and annoying now.
Jordan and Stern (mostly the commish) killed the NBA (and I wanted to find a clip from Dave, Shelly and Chainsaw, where Chainsaw would say “in National Bassssssket” with a fade into some short comic bit, followed by “ball Association” – but no luck).
Yes – along with the fucking 3-pointer.
Is CRT a cult? This video makes me feel like CRT is a cult…
Who wants Kool-Aid?
Is the comet coming already? Do they need donations? Where do I make those?
IT WAS FLAVOR AID! Jones was a cheapskate!
Since religion or organized church is demonized people yearn for that type of environment. People will fill the void somehow. Always have, always will.
+12 steps
See also: AA
The higher power of Marxism will really fix you. Or else.
People will fill the void somehow.
Pretty much this. I think it’s interesting that Freud was an atheist and claimed that God was an ersatz father figure. Yet, he also said that we all have an innate psychological drive to kill our fathers. If that’s true, atheism is the ultimate expression of that. The problem is, killing daddy doesn’t make the drive for the father figure go away. It just replaces one God for another. I’m not saying there aren’t genuine atheists out there. But, I think it’s a drive that plays out.
There are.
It’s a massive scam. Just another manifestation of Marxism, which is of course, a death cult. So, yes.
We are all racists — I mean individuals…
Haven’t you learned that individual is the new word for ‘racist?’.
*rides in on hobby horse*
The difference between a cult and a religion is political power.
Political power is achieved with money, lots of it.
CRT has gained political power.
CRT is a religion, not a cult.
If Hyperbole is around and wants to equate this to the Trump crowd, I’m in agreement.
But, I’ll choose Trumpsterism over whatever the totalitarians want any day of the week.
*falls off horse*
That sure is a lot of white people. Not a very diverse crowd.
I have to admit. I have some serious meat insecurities. Was just at the store and spare-ribs were on sale for 1.77/lb. I bought two. No reason to either, since I have about 10 racks of ribs in the deep freezer. I need help or my own farm.
Help eating them?
Sure but you aren’t swinging through Vegas anymore, so…
🙁
Admittedly, getting my own beef is probably cheaper than the travel.
I have some serious meat insecurities.
Phrasing!
Just for you Tonio…just for you. Now where are those summer sausages at that I need to warm up.
The water was cold!
I bought so much food this weekend. I had ribeyes and these huge monster shrimp, which I find better than lobster. I made a gallon of fresh salsa. And when I got home and I’m taking the groceries out of the car, there’s this rotisserie chicken. And I’m like ‘wait, honey did you buy a chicken?’. I didn’t even see her get it. So I’m like, do you know how much food we just bought? Why’d you want a chicken? And she says ‘I don’t know, I saw it and thought it looked good’. So today, this chicken is still in the fridge and so she says ‘Hey, do you want chicken today?’. So I said yeah, we better eat that. So she took it all of the bone. So I made some hot wings sauce for like a dipping sauce and a bowl of blue cheese.
So she took it all of the bone.
And Tonio calls me out for phrasing…geesh.
Well, there’s no edit feature and the edit fairy is apparently on vacation, forever.
I have some serious meat insecurities.
It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion of the ocean.
“serious meat insecurities”
These euphemisms.
Hey, I hope nobody minds me doing this, but I had to run out for a dental implant appointment and I wanted to bring forward an interaction between JI and I because I’m interested in hearing what others hear think.
It’s comment 17. Im going to multi-post it here:
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Ozymandias on June 22, 2021, 11:00 AM
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WTF
WTF on June 22, 2021, 11:12 AM
And in the current state of American politics, voicing the wrong opinions can get your livelihood and your life destroyed. So we don’t even have that going for us anymore. On top of the ongoing negation of the Bill of Rights.
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juris imprudent on June 22, 2021, 11:20 AM
Bitching on FB rates as one of the lesser things I care about. You can fuck all of social media (and mass media) for all that I care. The vast majority of media serves one true purpose – advertising.
I’m not disagreeing with you about how off kilter things are economically either, and the brutal irony (and bitter stupidity) of that. But there is a lot more to life than work or doing business.
In China you are talking about a country that just relinquished one of the most egregious social controls ever conceived – the one child policy. Our totalitarian-wannabes can only masturbate to the fantasy of having that kind of control of people here. If they can exert that kind of control (even if it was managed with great subtlety) – what can they not do when they put their mind to it?
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Ozymandias on June 22, 2021, 11:32 AM
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juris imprudent
juris imprudent on June 22, 2021, 11:56 AM
Don’t impute to me what I didn’t say, i.e. economic freedom is less than others. Nor did I say their govt is inherently more evil – but the degree to which power CAN be exercised is worse than ours (until the progressives have done their Roper bit on due process).
And yes, the policy was terrible and has terrible consequences – they still pulled it off. That is a frightening degree of power/control.
Homelessness is sad, but it isn’t the thing to convince me to give the govt even more control – since that control is a large part of creating the problem in the first place.
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Ozymandias on June 22, 2021, 02:58 PM
What you said:
From your point of view. That’s all that is, you know. Just your own personal moral compass. And, as it turns out, there are a whole bunch of other values that matter. I know a ton of expats from other countries living wonderfully in Shanghai. When I’m there, I visit, we eat great, the Chinese kids are wonderful, etc. They’re raising their child there with no problems. There are MILLIONS of others like them, and that’s just in Shanghai. Talk about Gell-Mann amnesia effect. You believe everything you read by the American press about the Chinese? Really?? I’m not putting my head in the sand, but I’m also not ignoring that the US has done some pretty terrible shit to its own people – 2.2 million folks in the military, for starters, and are currently performing a large-scale experiment on their own people, and berating them about it, but yeah, China’s fucking horrible. UNLIVABLE!!!11!!!1!
Yet people are raising their kids and their daughter is trying to learn the cello – and they are not anything approaching wealthy – my Turkish friend loves his german shepherd; and travels home to Turkey with his new wife during the summers There are millions of Brasilians in a variety of cities with a tight-knit community within China.
JI: In China you are talking about a country that just relinquished one of the most egregious social controls ever conceived – the one child policy. Our totalitarian-wannabes can only masturbate to the fantasy of having that kind of control of people here. If they can exert that kind of control (even if it was managed with great subtlety) – what can they not do when they put their mind to it?
Fix a Presidential election? Lock the entire economy of 350 million people down? I don’t know, what do you think?
And to reply similarly to Switzy’s comments about the Uighurs: Yes, absolutely. What’s happening to the Uighurs is terrible. I was in China in 2018 and I remember a big movie came out, like “Chinese Navy SEALs on steroids,” I can’t remember the name, but it had “Red Something or Other” in the title. It had crazy slo-mo effects, it had been shot with the help of the PLA, and it was a Hollywood-quality production. It was odd to see another culture’s “Top Gun” because that’s what sucked me into joining the military. Anyway, I went to the movies and watched it with my friend and his family and at the end I joked that, “I’m just glad that the bad guys were Islamic fundamentalist terrorists and not Americans!” (True story). He loved that. But it absolutely does not surprise me – i had the feeling when I was there that the CCP was NOT going to let itself have a “Muslim Fundamentalist” problem. In much the same way that the US was NOT going to have itself a “Japanese Loyalty” problem during WW2.
China reminds me in some ways of the US circa the 40s or 50s – that’s about how the men treat their women, I’d say. I can’t say that for certain, but I suspect older folks might recognize some of the same signs. It’s culturally conservative.
I’ll say this about the Uighurs, I haven’t yet seen footage of drone strikes of the Uighurs, though it might exist. That may seem a rather terrible thing to say, but I know our guy was good for something like 3000 or so Muslims, many of whom were innocents, and at least a US citizen. And then there’s that whole Iraq thing… I knew that was bullshit because I was working in intelligence at the time – NO ONE tracking weapons of mass destruction that I knew believed Iraq possessed that capability. Complete and total bullshit. How many of those deaths that followed were “legitimate” by any possible moral justification?
See what I mean? The righteous cloak or national morality doesn’t fit the way we would like it to.
“If you like your Biden, you can keep your Biden.”
The Supreme Court has said that you are all property of the State. As long as you can be put into a risk pool for insurance – which can be done for virtually anything – then you are property of l’etat, my friend. The government claims the right to conscript you and send you to war and if you act like a coward it’s an offense punishable by death. Totally free, y’all!
Ozy, if you don’t mind me asking… is there any plan for a second edition of your book with an index?
Yes, we are property of the state. Everyone who is a citizen in good standing of any country is in some sense owned, de facto, by said country. But the United States is a more benevolent master than China, even given China’s relaxed approach to economic regulation. More people emigrate from China than immigrate to China, by a large margin, so even considering economic factors alone (which often seem to be a greater driver of immigration than other factors) China is losing out to other nations. Hell, more people immigrate to the US in a single year than have immigrated to China, period. This is not to make any counterclaims to your personal experience. China is the second largest economy in the world, so it is obvious that it is doing some things right and that many instances of on the ground life would be positive. Unless a country is in a death spiral it will generally have many happy, prosperous people, and many instances of a good life. People everywhere try to make a good life for themselves, even under terrible circumstances. But this does not speak to the bigger picture, or at least not to the complete picture. Life is better for some people in the US than others, and in the past life was good for some people even while others suffered oppression. I’m sure life was good for many people even in Nazi Germany, before the wars. I think you are absolutely right to criticize America’s shortcomings, especially in the few areas where China does better, but I think you are off base if you think that in the balance America falls short of China.
It feels like the last gasp of a crumbling culture, a people yelling at the sky “BUT WE’RE BETTER!!1!1! WE’RE MORE CIVILIZED!!1!1! WE’RE FREER!!!!” I’m not trying to be mean here, and you may honestly feel that way, but let’s be honest, you’re here yelling at the sky on an obscure internet site… a group of… what? Maybe 200 people? 500? A whole thousand? Out of how many in the country?? Seriously – how many wouldn’t gladly throw you in prison if it comes to it for your beliefs?
It doesn’t appear to me that your neighbors give two shits about freedom, and a big enough chunk of them watched Hillary rig the democratic primary – right out in the open – and it got a collective yawn. She GOT the debate questions in advance – and the woman involved got a raise and a job at the Clinton Foundation… you know, the overt money-laundering and influence-peddling operation for the Clintons/US State Department/US Foreign policy.
Or there’s the NSA reading your emails, the FBI overthrowing a sitting President, and you’re happily paying for the privilege, but yes, the Chinese are the WORST!!!
Here’s what struck me about China compared to here: they’re working their asses off. Yes, the govt may be bad, but the people are way, way harder workers, and happy for the opportunity for the most part. Do they like it when some portion of their society gets fucked? I don’t think so, but most of them aren’t so tedious and defensive about it, like Americans are. Like we’re the last moral “nation” on Earth, rather than trying to be the most moral PEOPLE on Earth. And that would mean leaving others the fuck alone, which is what the Chinese seem to do with each other for the most part. They’re not like the Eastern Europeans – or Americans it turns out – with being snitches. Maybe it’s the anonymity of such masses of humanity.
Again, you all keep harping on example after example of the Chinese govt’s “badness” and completely ignoring both the “plank in our own national eye” and – more importantly – what lazy, fat fucks we are as a collective group. They work harder on average. They don’t have near the freeloaders and grifters we do – their politicians may suck, but the people bust their ass in spite of it.
I see billions upon billions go missing from the US treasury in the DoD alone every year. No one goes to jail – ever. The Church Commission admitted publicly in front of Congress that the CIA experimented on its people – not a single person ever faced accountability – not one. Ever. I could go on and on and on about the things our “government” does and for which there is ZERO accountability, but that still would miss the point.
My point is look at the people and their culture. Quit hiding behind the “BUT THEIR GOVT IS SO MUCH WORSE!!” veil for a moment and take a look at the two peoples. One is doing calculus for everyone, learning OUR language, busting their ass, opening businesses, and how many of our people are anywhere near that level of productivity and industriousness?
“The righteous cloak or national morality doesn’t fit the way we would like it to”
Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.
Fix a Presidential election? Lock the entire economy of 350 million people down?
Would you like to borrow my handle for a while?
Which part of that are you calling hyperbole? “Fix” might not be the correct word for what happened in the last presidential election, but can we agree on “fortified”? The fuckers admitted to it. And yes, the entire economy was locked down to a point so I am not sure what your point is.
“might not be the correct word for what happened…was locked down to a point”
No you nailed it, that’s my point, Ozy was exaggerating otherwise known as hyperbole.
Exactly, it isn’t like it was impossible for Biden to win. Hell Trump won when he didn’t expect to. Was there an effort to go over and above a 50/50 chance? Yes there was – but it wasn’t like something that wasn’t possible in the first place. When you persist in that, you sound no different to me than the whinging Democrats after Nov of 16. Now, that said, I would be happy to see the dishonest fuckers that played along last election all lose a hand. Pour encourager les autres.
No it wasn’t impossible for Biden to win with a gaggle of lawyers running around in key states fighting to change election laws and then throw in a “pandemic”, and yep, we get him. He is possibly the worst President we could think of in terms of liberty, but ya, glad your guy won so you could own those of us who thought Trump was a less worse choice.
Where do you fucking get that I’m happy Biden won? Just because I won’t suck Trump’s cock?
In your mind thinking Trump would have been a less worse choice as it would pertain to personal liberty=sucking Trumps cock? Dood. Now you need to borrow Hypes name. The TDS is strong in your head. You do know he is not in office now right? He is gone. You won. Your guy is in. There was two choices in the fucked up system we have atm and it was fortified in the direction you wanted. All good.
Pull on some other chain.
but ya, glad your guy won…
That’s bullshit and you know it. I and a few other here may not buy into the “stolen election” narrative but that in no way means we are happy that Biden won or that he was “our guy”, be better Sloper.
Naaaaa, bullshit man, and in full disclosure and I am sure it will come as a surprise, but since I have tomorrow off I have imbibed a bit, but if you don’t want to use the word “stolen” sure I get it. But “rigged”? They admitted to it! And who gives a fuck it does not matter in the end. Don’t care, I got caught in the moment and JI has TDS full tilt which I find funny so I work him a bit. But be honest, in our two party system as it is there are two choices. Am I wrong? They have it so rigged there will never be a competitive third party candidate. And sorry, if all you do as some do, is bash the one candidate all I can assume is you want the other guy. Two choices and all.
take a bow Hb
One question for you. Why do you think China doesn’t have a homeless problem?
Most homeless in our country are that way because of mental issues. What happens to those people in that society? If what is purportedly happening to the Uighers has any grain of truth, then I would suspect that those ‘undesirables’ are being removed from society in a permanent fashion.
Did the german shepherd get to go to Turkey for the summer, too?
And, as it turns out, there are a whole bunch of other values that matter.
Well damn Ozy, isn’t that pretty much what I said? So why do you think we are at loggerheads?
You believe everything you read by the American press about the Chinese?
I’m again confused; where did I regurgitate the stupidity that pours forth from our inky idiots?
As to the lockdown, that hardly was accomplished to the same degree as the one-child policy, was it? Nor does any of our govt’s stupidity, which is nearly boundless, really offset how stupid any other govt is, or can be. Nor as corrupt as our own system is, does it actually measure up to the corruption that does exist over there that you were fortunate enough to avoid. Which again is not to excuse or overlook our own corruption that generations of prosperity and decadence have allowed to fester.
You managed to set up some businesses that no party apparatchiks had any issues with; well done. Now go over there and negotiate on behalf of a major American manufacturer or entertainment corporation. Tell me again how business friendly the CCP is then. Since we just mentioned the NBA, perhaps your experience could get them better terms where they aren’t kowtowing like an 18th century imperial court functionary (which is by far the more relevant point of comparison than fucking Marx or Mao).
I don’t trust the WHO, Facebook, or our own health agencies so they can continue to eat themselves.
At this point, if the public health establishment put out a PSA urging anyone with a cut to stop the bleeding, I’d be skeptical.
Too Local News: Reopen NH Chairman Andrew Manuse on the NH budget
I think it’s a bit naive to think that once Pandora’s box has been opened and we’ve seen a governor use unlimited and unchecked power for 15 months that no governor is ever going to come up with a reason to call a State of Emergency in the future, if not the near future.
Politicians love power and they love their own ideas, which is why they need to be checked by co-equal branches of government that stop any one branch from taking control of the state. Our country was founded during a pandemic, and our state constitution spelled out at that time that the Legislature was the body responsible for passing laws, even during emergency situations, and not the governor. But this governor passed his emergency orders under the color of law that led to lost livelihoods, lost lives, and psychological trauma that we may never fully recover from, and he is fully responsible for that.
Never was such a scenario even a conception in the minds of our founders, except that they had just thrown off the exact same type of government that was run by King George III and they believed the constitutions they crafted would prevent such a government from emerging again. As Ben Franklin said, the founders had given us a republic, if we could keep it. In the last year, we didn’t keep it, and even after the end of the State of Emergency, we are still in a constitutional crisis if we don’t take the present opportunity to fix the laws that allowed the governor to abuse his power.
“11%? How does that compare with grocery store clerks or plumbers or tax preparers?
But Trump needlessly put them all at risk.”
Some estimates say approximately 17% of Americans got the rona. So the secret service is below average.
Mental detritus: {$X}-studies/CRT academics seem like they are intentionally demonstrating the validity of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Ugh, I feel like crap. Between the topical steroid, the injected steroid, the still-itchy poison ivy and the earache that’s being magnified by the steroid to the point where the painkiller doesn’t work, I’m somewhat regretting going to the doctor yesterday.
The question is – would you be worse off long-term if you hadn’t?
Probably… there was some sign of infection in one of the poison ivy spots, so the shot and the steroid cream were necessary. I’m not convinced that the painkiller is gonna help the ear at all, so TBD on that one.
Well, the fact that the “painkiller” is actually an antibiotic for the potential poison ivy infection and not a painkiller for the ear probably explains the lack of pain killing.
This is the correct painkiller
Minneapolis City Council member makes a principled stand on a super important issue.
Granted, the guy that the street was named after doesn’t sound like a nice guy but it sounds like no one is really all that upset when the City Councilor has to resort to this argument:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news Mr. Johnson, but let me tell you about how much signs cost
Narrator: It was well over $1M.
“We’re not changing the signs. The new names are simply spelled the same as the old…”
How about just naming the entire airport for Lindbergh, who is far more relevant and worthy despite his Hitler views, than a proto-Selter that always looks like he just shit his pants and is in fear of someone discovering it.
Most of us just say big terminal or little terminal.
Little terminal is superior in every way, btw.
Look at the big brain on Tundra!
Yes, the little terminal is better in every way than the big terminal.
What is funny is that the confusion is over what airlines fly out of what terminal. People didn’t know if Delta flew out of Lindberg or Humphrey. Changing the name to Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 didn’t help with that at all.
Well, the tables have turned. After years of jealousy at MSP, PDX has separated their two wings so you can no longer connect airside but must exit and reenter security on the other side.
Now that McCarran here in Las Vegas is officially Harry Reid I cannot wait til the private investors that are supposedly paying for all the changes to offload it onto the public.
On a funny note, no one spoke to my group and our D-ATIS until further notice will continue saying the racists name of McCarran over and over for at least a month or two.
Are there a bunch of NOTAMS out editing the approach procedures for the new tower name?
*checks*
Guess not–all the instrument approach procedures reference “Las Vegas Tower.”
And it has no cost for those who make maps and mapping software either.
OT: was looking at the US website of the Japanese tool maker Vessel and happened to watch the videos there
https://youtu.be/JgX2tE1Dn3w
Something seemed off, other than the lip sync… ah, the mannerisms… sure enough
https://youtu.be/pWkz3-NcZ0Q
Ah, those fit now.
That’s great!
Nor does it have costs for people using GPS or any of the residences and businesses on said street. /saarc
Indeed. I’d imagine it would be a headache to have your address changed on you, especially if you got a lot of mail.
It also seems like Dight was a Progressive in good standing. Why take his street away from him?
Treehouse = Environmentalist
Socialist = Good Thinker
Eugenicist = (I’m sure he’d be advocating the extermination of white people today)
The two were an unusual mix
*cough* bullshit! *cough*
Yeah, I stumbled over that too. It’s little things like that that make me stop reading, because obviously the author doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.
They should change it to Sanger Street in honor of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.
From the dead thread: “A man or woman is free to exactly the extent they get to keep the efforts of their labor.
Money quote.”
I’m gonna call bullshit, at least to the “exactly” part. Thought experiment: If you were a woman, and someone owned you, and could beat you and rape you at will, for any or no reason, and forced you to be a prostitute, and could torture you if you didn’t work hard enough or earned enough, and against your will aborted any pregnancies you might have, and prohibited you from having a boyfriend, and every now and then your owner got drunk and made you play a round of Russian Roulette … but they magnanimously allowed you to keep and spend 95% of the money you earned … would you describe that woman as free?
That seems like a complicated example.
I can’t imagine how stupid someone would have to be to believe the quote though.
Perhaps modified by “a necessary, but not sufficient, criteria for freedom is the extent to which a Xer gets to keep the efforts of their labor.”
Compulsion is key. Here’s another thought experiment: Two tax jurisdictions. First has a 25% flat tax on income, sales, and property. Second has a 99% flat tax on income, sales, and property. Which jurisdiction are you freer in? Oh wait, I forgot the last fact… first jurisdiction collects every penny of that 25% with the implied threat of jail. The second jurisdiction has a checkbox on their tax form to waive your entire tax liability with no retribution consequences from the state. Which jurisdiction are you freer in??
No such thing as a voluntary tax that you can opt out of. You might want to rephrase this.
Well that didnt take long
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/world-health-organization-says-do-not-give-children-experimental-coronavirus-vaccine-shots
It has less to do with the actual vaccines, and more to do with WHO would rather have limited doses being handed out to poor countries.
By the way- thanks, Edit Fairy!
Holy shit
Why am I procrastinating instead of rebuilding that carburetor?
I don’t know. It’s not like it’s a big deal. It’s an Edelbrock, not a Weber. Simple, even.
Black Crows were underrated as a band — they were way more than their hit singles. If you’re going to go down the rabbit hole, go all the way down….
…thanks….thats what was stuck in my head,
The “Screw The People” Act is dead.
Once in a while, a little good news happens.
Yay.
Though this may mean JI wins.
That’s okay if the cheating is curtailed.
yay!!
huzza
How it started:
https://fee.org/articles/of-course-the-alt-right-is-against-capitalism/
These people are not popular people, and their views have proven poisonous for venues like Twitter and Facebook, and are banned not for PC reasons, but simply because they reduce the value of the platforms.
How it is going:
https://gildersdailyprophecy.com/posts/the-censors-finally-came-for-me
When these takedowns began a few years ago, the tech giants hit obvious cases of crazy extremists that no one would really defend. I had a discussion with video pundit Dave Rubin. He told me that the banning of Milo Yiannopoulos and Alex Jones was a warning sign. People would not defend them due to their views, so their silencing becomes a precedent. It was designed to warm up the crowds for a broader use of the silencing technique.
That was perhaps two years ago. I wondered if he was right. People also believe they will be clever enough to outsmart the censor – probably I believed that – but they presume that people know precisely what runs afoul of them, or that the rules are stable and evenly enforced. This is far from the case. Anyone can get censored; once it happens, it is too late to protest.
This article sums why libertarianism and the West is in serious trouble. Jeff Tucker thought he was one of the good people because he didn’t like the Alt-Right or Trump so he was fine with big Tech Censorship. Now Big Tech is going after him and he has no defense since it turns out the whole “I’m not a racist or a liar or a wacko” doesn’t work again people who hate him.
Also for all the “everyone should try new ideas” spiel from libertarians they are at a loss when some of these “new ideas” are in fact quite awful. This Wasn’t Supposed to Happen because History and Progress.
Also libertarians refuse to admit the slippery slope is real and are totally unable to process that “modernity” is seriously flawed because critiquing “modernity” is reactionary and therefore criticizing it is bad.
A movie I watch at least once a year.
Another issue to is that once you agree that racists should be purged from society what happens when it is determined that you yourself are a racist?
Did we learn nothing from John Lilburne?
My problem with your argument is that a lot of libertarians did disagree with Tucker. So, indicting libertarianism for Jeffrey Tucker’s shortsightedness seems a bad analysis. And can you be a little more specific about what you mean by “modernity”? I mean any newly popular idea might be considered modern. But, there’s nothing inherent to a fundamental belief in liberty that necessitates a belief in a progressive view of history. In many ways, libertarianism harkens back to a lot of the ideas of the Old Right. And the Old Right specifically rejected the notion of history as progressive.
I should caveat my comments by acknowledging that I’m somewhat sympathetic to your line of argument.
I myself am not sure what “Modernity” means exactly. Jeff Tucker, Richard Ebeling, Don Boudreaux and many AIER types defend modernity but have been constantly critical of modern trends such as lockdowns so I’m not sure how that works…
I mean how can one defend modernity but not like the status quo and future trends? Modernity being past views isn’t really modern is it?
I think what they’re referencing is a specific set of ideas – that the world is objective and fundamentally rational, that history is progressive, and that the development of modern technologies fundamentally reworks the ground rules of the nature of the things.
modern trends such as lockdowns
Now that’s funny, I thought they criticized the lockdowns for being medieval.
“When these takedowns began a few years ago, the tech giants hit obvious cases of crazy extremists that no one would really defend.”
…Jeffrey Tucker
“The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”
…H. L. Mencken
New Michael Malice on Sargon of Akkad’s channel:
https://youtu.be/kTwH0XNoriE
A few ago it there was some discussion of how libertarians believe in a “rational self-governing people”.
So what happens if a “rational self-governing people” embrace mass censorship and centrally planned economics? Are they still rational and self-governing? If no then what happened? If yes then what is “libertarian” about them in the first place?
I believe that’s why many libertarians, at least American ones, point out that the US is a republic not a democracy and that mob rule is no less a danger than that of a dictator.
If yes then what is “libertarian” about them in the first place?
I’d say it’s the fact that they believe people should be free to self-govern themselves even if the outcome of that self-governance seems irrational to you. The Amish, para ejemplo, are what some would consider Commie Shitweasels, but as far as this libertarian is concerned they should be free to live their lives however they see fit.
The problem then becomes how do we make sure the Commie Shitweasels stay on their Communes and leave everyone else alone?
Reminds me of this FEE article:
https://fee.org/articles/the-dark-side-of-paradise-a-brief-history-of-americas-utopian-experiments-in-communal-living/
Socialists of today are a reasonable facsimile of 19th century utopian communitarians. They possess similar, anti-capitalist and anti-individualist motivations. They have big plans for a better world, if only it will conform to those plans. But unlike their utopian kinfolk of the 19th century, they aren’t setting up experimental villages and trying through voluntary means to make them work. Perhaps they know that none of the previous attempts succeeded, so they propose to accomplish similar objectives through the political process and coercion.
Imagine a Brook Farm with a Berlin Wall and a command economy enforced by a police state. It makes me think of Angus with a gun.
What could possibly go wrong?
I think the key part there is the “self-govern themselves“. The Amish aren’t employing men with guns to make sure everyone lives plainish. The problem is what do you do about the people insisting that they do have that right? Do you treat it as just another idea to be hashed out in the market place of ideas? Then you run the risk of one-man-one-vote-one-time.
Or the risk of no-man-15,000-votes-one-time. We’re one dead Republican Senator away from killing the filibuster and opening the floodgates to court packing, federalized elections, and other “one party rules in perpetuity” laws being passed.
A few ago what?
Few days ago.
Last Saturday I attended a Diamondbacks game.
That is a great place to eat bad food and watch a boring sport.
I actually like the Black Crowes so thanks!
You need a remedy fort that.
I redoubt you meant to say that.
Hit me with the remedy Time!
Oh fuck, are we doing an EAP pun thread here because I am too uneducated for that bullshit.
I heard that crazy fucker thinks he talks to angels…
He’s just jealous again.
I thought it was a girl with a dead baby.
This is their only good song, I love this one.
Mr Jones
Reminds me of my more youthful days at bars with my shitlord friends.
LOL, wait, that’s those other crows! LOLOLOL
Lies and heresy. That’s not even in Counting Crows top ten…
Who is up for upping the mid week zoom happy hour a day early. I finally get a day off tomorrow so today is my
FridayTuesday because I have to work Thursday.One of my ‘must haves’ for day off is no freaking Zoom meetings. We’re having real 3D guests this Saturday for the first time since before March 2020 and my wife is obsessively cleaning the house. I’m like Jeebus, you’re going to kill them with a completely sterile environment that is not natural for humans. Why can’t wiminz folk just chill? Alcohol actually exists and they’re apparently immune to it even though they’re drunk after a teaspoon of it. *dons armor of invulnerability*
Ya, I don’t do Zoom meetings for my day job. I am one of those feral people who actually works outdoors for the most part. So sitting in a cool place and conversing with friends while having a cocktail even if over zoom is something I look forward to. I don’t do 3D friends at my house because I have to worry about snitches.
I doubt you know what real obsessive, OCD-fueled cleaning looks like. Mrs Prole will scrub away at a surface that looks immaculate to me, just for daily cleaning, much less deep cleaning.
To this day I hate housework because when I was growing up, every day was spring cleaning day.
Now I can’t tell what’s good enough, so I leave stuff till I can’t stand it anymore and then … spring clean.
Also libertarians refuse to admit the slippery slope is real and are totally unable to process that “modernity” is seriously flawed because critiquing “modernity” is reactionary and therefore criticizing it is bad.
Beep boop sprrrrrrr bzzzzt.
Do chickens have large talons?
Beep boop sprrrrrrr bzzzzt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2xBXm4y70
Printers are the freaking curse of any aspiring IT career.
I fiddled around about as much as I could, but carburetor is back together, on the truck. No leaks. Idles smoothly and responds to throttle. I’ll take it out for a test flog tomorrow.
But now… beer.