Over the course of my life, I’ve lived in all of these settings. Each had distinct advantages and disadvantages.
Do you have a preference?
If so, what characteristics line up on the pro and con sides?
Have you been able to live where you prefer for a majority of your adult life?
Discuss!
I am currently in semi-rural Iowa. Just where I want to be.
Do you grow corn as well as beer and fruits?
Not yet.
Clearing some trees this year to make space for a garden next year — basic veggie garden. But, I will likely plant wine grapes and brambles (raspberries, blackberries, currants, etc) as well.
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Semi-rural for me, too. Too close to a small city to be rural; not in one of the suburban-type housing developments; and the municipality I’m in doesn’t have a built-up small town center.
I think ideally, given a choice, I might prefer to live on the edge of a small town. If NY weren’t so fucked up politically, there are probably a bunch of nice places in the Southern Tier of New York that would fit the bill.
Life-long city boy. But I am a confirmed bachelor so that has a big impact on my choices.
PS. It doesn’t have to be a big city. I lived in a small city in Germany that was more simpatico with my preferences than most American cities many times larger.
I would prefer to live in the country. I currently live in the 4th largest city in Minnesota.
“4th largest city in Minnesota.” You live in the Country
/Cali Boy
Country, but close enough to a decent city for some fun.
Rural. (and I consider the middle of the ocean to be peak rural)
Not many people to deal with. (usually)
No.
Peak rural. If you don’t watch this now, throw it on your to watch list. This is certain to be up your alley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6jFb7f4Ao
Oh ya, I was on a SV Delos youtube binge some months ago during peak pandemic mania. I never could figure out if it was a charter thing, a self made rich guy, or just a couple trust funders who pulled off owning that boat and then making it work through doing videos. Either way, power to them.
The main guy was a tech dude who got tired of that life and sold it all to buy a boat and sail around the world. He gets people to go on the boat and join for a few months at a time to sail with them. I was also on a little binge of their videos for a while. The one I linked was one of my favs because it is one of the most remote regions in the world.
Did you ever watch the documentary of Dodge Morgan doing an around the world solo? Balls of titanium.
Carry over from the now dead-thread:
Project Veritas just posted an interview with the Fox reporter. I’m about a third of the way through, and so far it’s a mix of her being unhappy that superiors make decisions on what stories to run based on viewer demographics and spiking a HCQ story. I think this might be a let-down, but I’ll keep watching.
carried over response to your carried over dead-thread post.
Just finished, not a lot there in my opinion, The club scene* interview with her co-workers was quite a stretch, “people fight over ad spots and the biggest spender gets the spot.” Well no shit.
*it looked like they were in a club and sounded like the music was pumping, but I could be wrong and unjustly stereotyping these women. and for that I pre-emptively apologize.
I think it was in a club.
This video wasn’t all that impressive. I suspect the other folks interviewed will pay a similar price as the reporter.
I’d like to think they wont get punished/ Nothing those employees said was damning at all, without the questioner ‘leading’ the watcher to the right conclusion. Like when he’s trying to get them to say that fox 28 alters the news for their advertisers, all he gets is “oh, we hear about things” and “anything could happen… haha” nothing concrete, nothing anyone just bullshitting at a bar after a dozen Strohs might say about his employer.
I particularly like how they use the dramatic “They came at my throat for speaking out!” complete with the hand to the throat gesture three or four times but never seem to explain exactly how they came for her throat, other than just telling here not to cover some stories.
Lived in a city in Indonesia.
Went to boarding school in the mountains in Malaysia.
Lived in Chapel Hill, NC (college town) a couple of years – 2nd, 8th grade, all college.
Lived in Metro Manila megalopolis for 5 years (boarding school).
Lived in rural NY – Ft Drum.
Lived in Seoul – megalopolis, but clean.
Lived in urban NoVa / lots of DC time.
Lived in suburban/commuter town N of Seattle (awesome).
Lived in tiny apt in Hawaii – not bad for the circumstances.
Lived in small town in VA (2014-2016 and since last year).
The town where I live now (and bought house) isn’t my first choice….but it’s a decent fit for the moment. Gives me room to consider how much “convenience” I do or do not need on a daily basis before I hope to look at much more rural/empty land options in the near future – hopefully next year.
Lifestyle choices like that are like architecture: There are lots of things I like and lots of houses I’d love to live in, but ultimately, they each lack something I would ALSO like to have. Midcentury modern Eames home? Sure, but … *looks longingly at tiny house or apartment or mcmansion or bungalow or farmhouse or or or or or *
So rural for some things, suburban for some things, urban for some things. However, I’ve lived my entire adult life in first a college town for about 4 years, then the rest in the suburbs.
Oh, I forgot to add, I grew up in an urban neighborhood, and visited my grandparents every weekend, way down deep in the sticks of SE Kansas, pretty far away from the closest decent-size town (also a college town). So I’ve experienced it all and still don’t know what I’d really prefer.
I currently live in a “semi rural” area, but within a higher density neighborhood (albeit on a larger plot of land than most in the area). I have lived in suburbs, small towns, and also at a home in the woods that was quite isolated from neighbors, but also very convenient to shopping and work.
I have never really lived “out in the boonies” nor in a heavily populated metro area nor in a city center.
My experiences staying in city centers and metro areas make me think I would despise it very quickly.
I don’t care at all for suburbs.
I am OK with the semi-rural and isolated but connected places. They’re not ideal, but offer a good balance for me.
I think I would prefer a more rural/isolated setting, but would miss easy access to grocery stores and other services. I don’t care to have neighbors, and they probably don’t care to have me around, although mainly because of the noise (I like to shoot). I’m a pretty pleasant neighbor to have, and don’t mind chatting or helping out a neighbor in need.
My dream location would be on several hundred acres in a mildly hilly area, in view of mountains, with space for a personal rifle range of at least 500 meters, and an airstrip at least 2,800 feet long (sea level equivalent–so, longer as the altitude increases), within a 2 hour flight of an ocean beach.
I could also see myself living in a small beach town, but I’d need to be able to get away to a rural retreat regularly where I can shoot and have bonfires and have some friends over without pissing off the neighbors.
100 feet from the Big Manistee, 1 Mile from lake Michigan, by kayak or car, shooting and fishing at my doorstep, a nice place to be, and, Rednecks!
I knew the son of a movie star, and the son had a house semi-close to the beach in a small college town (same as I lived in) and a few hundred acres to shoot his machine guns.
they probably don’t care to have me around, although mainly because of the noise (I like to shoot).
Back when we were living semi-rural, the long time neighbors would rotate between shooting ranges on their properties. We could hear them shooting, but it wasn’t a nuisance. They said they had the cops called on them a couple times as the area started to grow, but the cops were cool, so NBD.
I almost got in on the shooting club, but we ended up moving instead. If that small town of 200 could have been relocated outside of the DC sphere of influence, it would’ve been a pretty decent place to live.
That dream location is exactly what I’m on the lookout for – hoping to lock something in the next 2 years.
Undisclosed compound. There are many unhinged anti-Firstites out there.
Always lived in a big city or next to one; San Francisco, Salvador Brazil, and Amsterdam Netherlands. I’ve spent significant time in very rural or small towns around the world and if I had the work or life situation that would permit, I’d live 90 percent rural and 10 percent city. Currently a couple miles down a dirt road from a town of a couple thousand on the Sea of Cortez. I could live here months at a time and be content, but it will only be another ten days.
Currently a couple miles down a dirt road from a town of a couple thousand on the Sea of Cortez.
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Slab City?
Working on my second tequila halfway between San Jose and La Paz, Mexico. My eight and ten year olds both caught fish in the surf today, a small flag cabrilla and a surf perch. I got a two foot needlefish. All returned to La Mar. The cabrilla could’ve been tacos but the 8 year old wanted to toss him back.
That sounds idyllic.
As idyllic as it gets. I may have to finally write an article for here about surf fishing the East Cape.
Please do; that sounds awesome. I remember surf fishing with my Grandpa on the Outer Banks when I was maybe 7 or 8. Great times.
Nice, Outer Banks is legendary for surf fishing, it is absolutely on the bucket list.
I love Manistee, 6k population, the big town in a very rural area, we all know one another, and have the same values, I dig it, very glib,
I grew up at the beach. It was a small-ish town. I lived in the Bay Area for a year and in Pheonix for a year. Otherwise, I’ve been in L.A. since 1980. I live in the valley, which is not really big city and even less rural. I can go to the snow in about an hour and the beach in about an hour. There canyons and farms and mountains all around. I can get some decent Italian food, even if it’s 10-11 at night. I can excellent Mexican food at any hour. I might be stuck here just for that reason alone. The regulatory atmosphere sucks ass, but that’s not everything. Pheonix was pretty good that way and it’s the only place I’ve ever been that I flatly hate (except for monsoons, those are very cool). I really like Florida, but it’s crazy hot/humid and there’s not a way for me to make good money there without a lot of hustle. It’d probably balance out, what with the lower cost of living/taxes and all, but I’m not really into it anyways.
I’ve thought about living in Peeple’s valley or Cottonwood/Jerome, but I probably won’t. I just like to ride through there every once in a while.
I grew up in SoCal, as did my entire Family, the best place int the world to grow up, then you leave….
Now we can really get to the important stuff:
A “Harley Quinn” scene in which Batman goes down on Catwoman has been cut. Why? “Heroes don’t do that”
“It’s incredibly gratifying and free to be using characters that are considered villains because you just have so much more leeway,” he said. “A perfect example of that is in this third season of ‘Harley’ [when] we had a moment where Batman was going down on Catwoman. And DC was like, ‘You can’t do that. You absolutely cannot do that.’ They’re like, ‘Heroes don’t do that.’ So, we said, ‘Are you saying heroes are just selfish lovers?’ They were like, ‘No, it’s that we sell consumer toys for heroes. It’s hard to sell a toy if Batman is also going down on someone.'”
Smash the patriarchy!
Outside myself, if Batman doesn’t deserve to be selfish in his love life, who does?
This whole issue was worked out in the Sopranos, I’m pretty sure.
If heroes don’t “do that,” heroes eventually will be using that Kung Fu grip more than they planned, I’d imagine.
Real heroes are used to solitude. Real woman aim to please.
Clearly they never read a romance novel. All the best heroes do that.
I think in the Sopranos they all pretend they didn’t but actually did. Everyone lets them pretend. I could be wrong, Haven’t seen it in a decade or so.
I don’t understand why people act like it’s some kind of chore. It’s fun as hell, IMO.
Just really weird and tone-deaf to even be considered for a mainstream DC animation (not even in the comics or live-action flicks – but animation???).
^This^
There was a Batman animated movie a few years back where one of the first scenes was him and batgirl getting it on on a rooftop, nothing implying cunning linguist and I wasn’t scandalized but I do remember thinking ‘this is kind of weird for a Batman cartoon.’
There is a school of literature that thinks the writer should really delve into realism, putting in every fart and dump the characters take. think Emile Zola, and it was considered “socialist, communist, bohemian and avant-garde, but also ‘realist’, all relatively new terms.” Another school, a more classical group, thinks all of that should be left out. That it is trite and unimportant.
I’m not that smart, I just thought it was kinda edgy for a children’s show. I wasn’t going to write a dissertation about it or letters to my congresscritters or anything.
This is the Harley Quinn Animation. It would be a fine Adult Swim addition. Lots of swearing and subversive humor. Kaley Cuoco and Lake Bell voice Harley and Ivy, and they’re going lesbian? Maybe?
I think Diedrich Bader might be the voice of Batman. I enjoyed the first two seasons, but it’s been awhile since I watched.
There’s more than 2 seasons already?
Thats one weird thing with streaming – shows come, run several seasons and go and you’ll never hear about them – vice the traditional TV format.
You have to bear something else in mind. A streaming ‘season’ is a fuckton shorter than a traditional broadcast season. You could see four, five, or six in a year.
Small town is my preference.
Small town life has been where I spent most of my life. I’ve been in suburbia for a few years and in a large college town.
I enjoy being 10 minutes from mountains with deer and bear as well as a city size-able enough for good food and drink.
I almost bought a place deep in the woods but found too many negatives. Internet, food/ drink and medical care access being the majors.
I have easy access to major metros, less than 2 hour drives to NYC and Philly, while I can fire a rifle at a private range whenever I wish. Airport within 10 minutes that can fly me to any major hub on the east coast,
In summary I’m where I want to be.
Lehigh Valley?
About 1 hour north.
I’ve lived most of my life in New Mexico. The only “urban” space is Albuquerque which any other city would laugh at for calling itself a “city”. When I lived there the population was around 250k. It is well over a million today which many would call “a small town”.
When I lived there in the 50’s-60’s we were on the edge in what is now called the Northeast Whites. We moved from there to a rural spot east of town.
That has set my preferences. I look at pictures of cities and cringe. I could never survive there. I am having a hard time convincing myself to even visit there.
To me, a city is defined as “somewhere I can get a pizza delivered.” Y’all can keep the rest.
No delivery. But pickup is 5 minutes away.
Sounds like a great way to look at it,
A great example was at out local grocery the other day.
The woman in front of my had purchased about $150 of groceries and discovered that she had left her wallet at home. “No problem,” said the cashier, “just go home and get your wallet and pick up your groceries when you come back.” Local people who knew each other. They cleared the register and checked me out. In my opinion, big city would have been big problem.
Small city of 50K currently. I could go smaller, as long as there is a brewery and a decent breakfast place, but the wife thinks it’s a bit too small. She wants exotic grocery stores on every corner, which a small town ain’t gonna provide. As I get older, many of the things I thought were so important when in my early 20’s seem silly at this point.
I remember when your town was half of that and the one across the river was the fifth largest in the state.
That is why buying a house “across the river” now costs 100k more to live around a bunch of drunk college kids.
Once upon a time, I had a fantasy of buying one of the older houses downtown or the one on the corner of 35th and Western in retirement. You couldn’t get me to move back now.
Since no one else has done it.
Nah, that one is too maistream. I’m more into spittin’ some Beechnut in that dude’s eye!
The cynical me expected this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thu8DWsirJo
Nah, I’m more like this here!
In fact, that’s the perfect song for this post.
Damn. Winterland. That’s a major throwback.
or Summerland
Was expecting this.
I love semi-rural on the edge of a small town. Unfortunately, we are no longer that. As a younger man, I would have also loved to live at our mountain cabin.
Heaton Fixes the Jones Act
So much to learn. For instance I had no idea there was a a 51st state called Massatucky… Off to prep for impending return of zombie Franz Ferdinand.
We just need Joe Prince to get it started,
“Listen all y’all, it’s a cabotage!”
OFFS.
FFS https://youtu.be/7G0y44QRH4E
That chick wore out all her Sonic Youth records when she was little. ?
And Youtube weirdly coughs up something after that which is completely unrelated but I’m diggin’ it.
That’s rather Teutonic. Not bad, though
This is what I am checking out right now.
All Them Witches. Elk. Blood. Hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwb0RUuz7E
Solid. Here’s some stoner rock back atcha’. https://youtu.be/aQwbu4mNuQE
I was at that show.
Shit, I haven’t thought of them in ages. But, seeing its kinda the same neighborhood, I was at this show, Ventura theater, 1990.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3YD-fgkkQ4
Sweet Jesus, that’s good stuff.
Thanks, all of you.
Thinking a lot about this, especially as I’m starting my moving adventures. Lived in the suburbs, lived in the city, lived in the small town.
Maybe 10+ acres in a really outer ring suburb might be my solution.
4 minutes to the town with 850 people to the north of me.
4 minutes the the town with 2500 people to the south of me.
22 minutes to the city with 135,000 people that my employer is in.
40 acres up for sale about 15 minutes from here. Come on down.
I’d move down there in a heartbeat. (Not just to drink up your mead.)
Kids are in CO – that’s where I’m going for awhile. We’re gonna do some exploring and see what might suit us.
25 minutes to my local bar.
35 minutes to my doctor and barber.
45 minutes to the grocery store
90 minutes to costco and other big city stuff.
If you have pizza delivery then you win, kinnath.
Oh, and 5 minutes from an open shooting area in the National Forest, so I’ve got that going for me.
Any open shooting area in state forest is an hour from me right now. Hence airguns in the basement!
I should really break down and get a range membership, as there is a good one about 15 minutes south of me.
Never owned a range membership. Spent many a delightful hour shooting rifles at 100yd targets or spinners and .22s or even walking through the woods following the pine cone that you just shot.
I’ll take that over pizza delivery any day.
Highly recommend them. We let our membership lapse because of the distance but I think we’re going to reup soon.
Emerald Valley, or Albany Rifle?
ARPC.
I’ve never been to Emerald Valley. Driven by a lot as used to go shooting up in McGowan Creek on BLM land. Seemed like there were a few too many people up there and some with questionable intent so quit that as well.
I grew up outside the city limits of a small town and hated it. School friends were too far away to see outside of school. No stores nearby. Was going to live downtown in a large city.
Ended up more ruralish on several acres. Wish we had about 20-50, and not this useless hilly stuff. Wonderful for walks but can’t put outbuildings and like on it. Close to an airport and can travel anywhere in the world (in the before times) so satiates any lingering big city desires.
I’m working my way through Dan Carlins latest, Supernova, war in the East pt. 6, and I’m trying not to throw up, Humans are horrible,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OBqReblJs&t=13898s
Even the good guys
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Keelhaul
I’ve been working my way through Blueprint For Armageddon, his series on WWI.
It’s not dissimilar The Gulag Archipelago, you have to take it in small bits.
Otherwise you lose hope.
We live on a Norman Rockwell street in a small Montana cow town, I can walk to an ok market, a good hardware and a car parts place. Grew up in the Bay Area – never going back.
It looks, though, like we’re all doing it wrong.
https://notthebee.com/article/new-survey-says-new-jersey-is-the-best-state-to-live-in-proving-definitively-you-should-never-trust-surveys
Currently smack dab in the middle of the suburbs of one of the 10 largest metro areas in the country. We’re GTFOing as soon as we can save up the down payment.
I grew up in a farming community that was absorbed into the city (Indianapolis) as I grew up. I watched a community of a few thousand grow into a “modern” suburb of 70k. Now, according to the padre, the school system is struggling to excise the CRT loons and cling to the quality level of a decade ago as they adjust to the fact that they’re now a landlocked suburb.
I’ve lived (a short stint) in the city, I’ve worked in rural areas, I’ve lived semi-rural. I much prefer any of those over suburban living. I want space and no traffic and quiet and nature. I want to know people when I walk into the local store. Wife wants more of the suburban amenities. Convenient grocery stores and a neighborhood big enough to take walks in and parks and the like.
Our compromise is to look for a small satellite town to a midsize city. Specifically, we are focusing on towns in the orbit of Tyler, TX (population 105k).
This is all front of mind to us, so I could talk for an hour about it, but I’ll leave it at that for now.
I’m a city dweller. I like the variety of restaurants and bars. I like being able to walk to a club and see a concert and get drunk and stumble home.
I grew up in New Castle, IN. Hated it. Could never do a small town again. Lived in L.A. and Long Beach, CA for twenty-six years; now in Seattle going on two years. Most likely retire to Santa Barbara, CA but that is still 15 or 20 years out. Maybe Morro Bay or even SLO?
Man, the entire city of Santa Barbara has turned into a massive, outdoor Westfield shopping mall. It was cool as fuck when I was a kid, but now…nope. Same with Ojai. The Kardashian set has certainly left their mark. It’s sad. Reminds me of the Pretenders song Spud posted. Sad.
Thank you, and all like you, for filling cities and leaving the rest of the space for people who do not want to be around people. I mean that sincerely. I see city folk move into the country all of the time and then they start wondering why it isn’t the city. For example, there is a hill between our community and the highway that gets covered with snow. I see all of these new transplants and their non-country vehicles slid off of the road every winter. Yuppies move in here every summer and expect it to be all city-like. Then winter hits and we get 30″ of snow and their sports cars can’t get out. It’s like living on an island and not owning a boat.
FWIW when I lived in San Francisco I saw tons of recent transplants who clearly didn’t belong there.
This guy gets it. I, too, am grateful for the city dwellers but they still come in the summertime.
I grew up in SLO. It was a cool place for a kid in the seventies, but I watched my kid go to college there and I barely recognized it, it has grown so much since then.
I’d probably be happy in retirement just kind of relocating to a new city for a year at a time. Melbourne, Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Glasgow, Amsterdam, Milan, Prague, Budapest. Then, die.
Least I could do is die https://youtu.be/_zSQmlnLfo4
JCM said it all:
https://genius.com/John-mellencamp-small-town-lyrics
I want someplace where I can find your run of the mill retail, a hospital that is decent, and not too many people. I’ve never tried full rural, but my annoyances with city inconveniences and lack of utility from the extra facilities purportedly on offer makes me dislike cities. I want to be far enough from my neighbors that it’s more likely to be racoons hassling my trash cans, if there is even pickup.
In a town of 23,000 in red Washington. That’s red Washington, as opposed to commie RED Washington on the west side. It’s a good size. I have a pho place, 2 sushi places, and around 24 mexican places and an El Salvadorian place.
I’m off to work, kids.
Keep an eye on things while I’m gone.
Keep a lid on things.
I thought you meant a lid, lid!
Lived in all settings. Grew up mostly rural with weekends spent running around in the city with hood rats, a handful of years in the suburbs and nearly a decade in poor black communities(Armour and Gillham, Cleaver and Troosts, nigga!).
As I age, the city holds less and less appeal to me. At this point I’d probably be happiest returning to the sticks.
Side note: Squeeee!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr4FiT0ks7I&feature=youtu.be
A new Fall of Civilizations podcast episode is out.
I stumbled upon this series over a year ago. Can’t remember if i was the first to recommend it here or not. Who cares. I just know several people here enjoy this podcast, so here’s your heads up.
See ya!
I love that series. Last one I saw was #12, I think, there was another one out that was audio only…
I think all except this one has been converted to video now. I was very pleased with the last video/podcast about the Byzantine Empire with the exception of completely ignoring the 10th to 13th centuries in the episode, especially the reign of Basil II. Then again, that was arguably when the Eastern Romans were at their peak. So I understand why it would be glossed over in that context.
Me, Truman and Topping, Van Brunt and 17th Street
Thug Life, yo!
New York is free again.
OK, maybe not quite.
And when is Andy getting procecuted for 10,000-15,000 counds of depraved indifference homicide?
Baby steps.
Today was “freedom” day for CA. Everyone is scared to take them off. There’s like no change at all. I got asked to put masks on twice. There’s the same retards driving around masked. It’s sad how deep this religion has taken hold out here.
I’ve been ignoring mask mandates for a while now. Though I have avoided confrontation (by not going some places where these people are prone to congregate) because I don’t like dealing with people.
We had a mandate on businesses and they would get fined for letting us not wear them. I have to wear it all day at work and after that, I only wear them in businesses. I want to stop that part, but it looks like most places are scared that it’s not legit and will continue requiring them.
I have managed to not be asked to leave or mask up.
I don’t think anyone official is actually enforcing anything upstate.
The KC area is blessedly almost completely maskless at this point. Anecdotally speaking, outside of mandates by employers, the general population hardly wears them in public anymore. Maybe one ot two out of ten people wear masks here now. And I see that most of those people are either elderly hypochondriacs or twenty-something proggie kids desperate to signal to everyone just how meek and subservient they are to the state…God, kids today have no fucking balls.
Precious few masks up here NE of you too.
for something depressing, read all the panicked comments under Newsom’s tweet about the end of the state mandates.
The media has a lot to answer for, propagandizing people into this state.
So much this.
Right there with you.
The local university town is a hotbed of mask-wearing fools. It is so f’ing sad.
Titty Tuesday proving that the mountains are the best place to be.
https://archive.li/ggwZI
What happened to the portrait numbers? How am I supposed to easily refer to one picture or another?
I’m suburban AF.
Grew up in the last suburb “before the country started” and still do, though it’s now another 15 miles farther west from the City of Brotherly Shove.
If it was just me, I’d be living in some place like Durango, CO or Colorado Springs, or Gettysburg.
At one time I thought about those spots.
Durango has gone from a little ski town nestled along the Animas River to a major suburbia with condos and stoplights and traffic snarls everywhere.
We were thinking about CS in our younger days, perhaps some of the bedroom communities toward the south. Today it is Denver-lite. In fact, I-25 is pretty much massive city from Thornton to Fountain.
Can’t speak about Gettysburg.
Dream community: Garden District of NOLA or Hawaii Kai, with the latter being a hit it big or lotto win choice.
Broad strokes: I find myself in a similar community, in terms of population and general feel as that of my hometowns of Burlington and Clinton, Iowa. Only I find myself eight degrees further South.
I guess I am a regionally big town but objectively small-town guy.
I’ve lived in the Lower Garden and the French Quarter. Garden District/Irish Chanel are fantastic neighborhoods as far as NOLA goes.
We’ve stayed over by Audubon and Loyola and liked that too.
I liked living in big cities when I was young and single, but like Mars, they are no place to raise a kid. Currently I live on the edge of a largish suburb with open space just a few steps from my front door. The one thing I can’t stand is being in the middle of some bland, endless suburb like Silicon Valley.
Grew up in a very rural mountain area, DEG knows were. I now live in a city with 200k and a metro area of 600k. The population has grow about 30% since I moved here and I no longer enjoy it. Living in the city was nice for ease of travel to work and industrial supplies. Now the traffic sucks and I can order everything on the internet. (McMaster Carr rocks). I had hoped to move me and my business to North Idaho but those areas have been overrun after last year. If I can ride snowmobiles and dirt bikes and shoot guns, I’m happy, don’t need much more. The only problem with very rural living is that if you travel a lot, your property is vulnerable to thieves.
industrial supplies
Walter White confirmed.
More along the lines of fabricating tooling for ghosts with the thing that goes up.
It seems I’ve lived the vast majority of my life living on or near the edge of mid-sized Midwestern cities – grew up in the edge of Dayton, spent a few years living on the edge of Muncie, IN, and eventually made my way…back to Dayton, where I’ve lived in two townships between the city and the ‘burbs proper.
I think I’d like to try living in a small town – I’ve done so for a very short period years ago, and it was mostly pleasant. I’d also like to try living in a big city for a while. And I want to live in the country, too. I want to experience all of them. I watch the “sciencey” shows that talk about the theory that all possible universes exist simultaneously (or something like that,) and I resent the fact that I can’t personally experience all of the universes in which I exist.
OT: Putin from the top rope
Putin is gonna say, ” they’re not sending us their best and brightest!”
Well, after a bunch of tribulations, the ‘Hole in the Ground Tour’ to the Grand Canyon is back on. It was supposed to be for my dad’s 60th birthday, but this damn lot of illegal shenanigans forced a rescheduling to this september. We’re going to visit a bunch of caves, mines, a crater, and the grand canyon.
Vegas is off the itenery – we’re not shelling out $800/night just to see it. When it was $150/night it was more reasonable. Damn music festivals.
At least I still have the money I saved up for it.
$800/night
Wut?
Apparently the night was at the tail end of Viva Las Vegas. Entire megacasinos were sold out. Remaining rooms were shortage priced.
Yeah?? I just paid $600 for airfare for 2 and three nights at the Flamingo for my son and his long time squeeze to go get married.
It’s all a matter of timing.
Yeah, airfare is generally really cheap to Vegas, but I went at NYE a couple of years ago and it cost me almost $600. I had to jump through hoops for that, too – it was some Rube Goldberg kayak.com frankenticket that required me to flight out of Reagan and back into Dulles. This meant I had to park my car at Dulles, take a bus to a Metro station and then a train to Reagan when I left.
Mrs. Gould and I got married at the Flamingo back in 2003. Watched the end of the Ohio State game, downed my Jim Beam, collected my winnings at the sports book, and walked right into the chapel. Was married about 15 minutes later. The bride was lovely. The minister was drunk.
Eighteen years later going strong.
That’s awesome.
A love song for you and your beautiful wife./
Yeah, I thought hotel rooms in Vegas were basically free.
I mean, I wouldn’t pay to go there even though I don’t gamble.
Not when they’re in high demand because of some event rolling a lot of people into town.
That’s great news! Which caves made the cut?
The holes in the ground are – Mammoth Cave, Carlsbad Caverns, Meteor Crater, Grand Canyon, Cripple Creek Mine, Meramac Caverns.
Other points of interest include Roswell NM, and potentially the dayton air museum if time permits. (He needs to get back hom in time for work)
Oh, depending upon the timing, we might try to see the Hoover Dam… but the timing doesn’t look too favorable anymore.
Is this a road trip? Everything is out west, less Mammoth and Meramac.
Mammoth is neat but can involve a lot of walking. Also should make reservations, because it gets booked up this time of year.
This is a road trip. There are stops in Tulsa and Dodge City, but there’s nothing planned on the itenery in either.
I’ve been working on my walking endurance for many reasons 😀
I’ll have to look at cave reservations. I hadn’t factored in the crowds.
Went to Mammoth with my family when I was a kid, and TT & I visited Meramec and the practically-next-door Onondaga Cave State Park on the same day as part of our “Tour the Natural Wonders of Southern Missouri” honeymoon.
If they still mandate masks in the cave come september, I may not be in Mammoth.
What struck me about seeing Meramec & Onondaga on the same day was the contrast in presentation. Onondaga, the state park, was more…shall we say… low-key than the flamboyantly spectacular commercial presentation of Meramec. Of course, this was 25 years ago, so goodness knows how much either has changed.
And while I understand that the Air Force Museum may be the higher Ohio priority, we got caves, too.
It’s almost as if all the limestone in the eastern half of the country is really old and eroded.
Speaking of interesting geological features, our honeymoon also included visits to Johnson’s Shut-Ins State Park and Elephant Rocks State Park.
I really like the longest remaining stretch of route 66. And Oatman AZ. Laughlin is kinda cool and very cheap. Havasu is something to see. It’s all right next to that. At least cruise down to Jerome. The west is big, you gotta venture around to see stuff. I’ve ridden around out there a bunch. I like it.
It’s not just me, My Dad’s along for this one, so we’ll probably keep debating where to wander the whole way.
Your dad’s 60th birthday…
Like so many I’ve lived in a variety of places, I ended up sort of where I started but after 30 years in the woods the neighborhood is getting crowded but not too bad. We have all the amenities via the internet and TV, too many in fact. As the calendar really speeds up after a certain age (for us, around 75 or so) we have retreated even more into a solitary life style. Kids gone off to find themselves, grandkids grown up and have their own lives.
I believe, from what little time I’ve spent there rural South Dakota, western side, would fit me, not quite so cold as here. I need some space where there are not many people but has lakes/trees and a few hills. I wouldn’t mind farther north in MN, off the main highways a ways. PONick and I would be headed for Isabella, MN, and stake our claim.
Rural-Suburb.
I’ll never live where there is a HOA or Cookie-Cutter Houses.
I like where I’m at now. An hour away to Louisville, with enough room to shoot my gun in backyard, as long as I’m careful. 10 miles away from small city and 5 from small town.
I live in a town of about 25k. I’m a five minute walk from downtown, and there are plenty of restaurants and fun little shops. But I like having my yard and relatively quiet neighborhood.
I guess if I had the money for a large piece of land, I’d like to have a house in the country with a big garden, ssome livestock, and (the crazy part) a private running path with various obstacles.
I don’t think I could ever do actual city life. I like my peace and quiet and wide open spaces too much.
Goddamn this clickjacking.
I’m a city dweller. I like the variety of restaurants and bars. I like being able to walk to a club and see a concert and get drunk and stumble home.
Egould and I are simpatico. Ideally, I want a heavily fortified compound on a large amount of acreage to get away to, but for day-to-day I just can’t quit city(-ish) living.
I say “city”, but it’s not sky-scrapers around here, just lots of “squares” with interesting things in each of them.
If your “local” has to be driven to, does everyone just drive home drunk after a session? Are DD’s required? Or is the answer, “yep, most folks are driving drunk when they leave, but they’re only going to kill themselves…”?
I hasten to add – we don’t have kids. That would change the calculus in a heartbeat.
Which Glib owns this van?
https://imgur.com/a/3BrmDG3
Local political candidate signs that treat the political process with the dignity it deserves:
https://imgur.com/a/C7XBd9O
(I want those to be serious)
That’s fantastic. I assume his opposition created them. Very clever.
I’m assuming it’s his buddies breaking his balls – both were on the same house. I don’t think they’re real. But I want to believe.
To whoever is responsible, kudos.
I have lived the vast majority of my life in the ‘burbs. My college years were spent in a college town, Charlottesville, which feels smaller than it actually is. I lived in a big city, Long Beach, for a couple of years, but it’s southern California – it’s not really an urban area like living in NYC or Chicago is. Other than that, straight suburbs.
We just sold our house today, and I’m hoping we find somewhere out in the country to move to. As I age, I like other people less and less and would look forward to having a few acres between us and anyone else. We’ll see if there’s something like that which is a)affordable b)desirable c)within a reasonable commute, no more than 40 or so mins.
I will also say that I grew up hating the suburbs and thinking I was going to be a big city guy…..until I lived in LB for a while and got sick of the traffic, the crime (car was broken into twice parked on the street outside my building), the general dirtiness.
Yay! On the home sale.
I might buckle and sell my place if these stupid prices continue to go up.
I could then possibly buy a house outright in some other state, thus allowing me to take a job I like for less money, even proportionally less than here. Mortgage is still my biggest monthly bill; to be free of it would be freedom indeed.
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NSFW.
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NSFW.
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NSFW.
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NSFW.
Q likes skyscrapers.
Obligatory
overall ewwww but 3 maybe works
Evidently the people that ran the LPNH lost the party elections to the Mises guys and instead of handing over the reins of power, the simply declared a new libertarian party of New Hampshire. They kept the info (CC, email lists etc) of the LPNH.
That sounds hinky.
It’s criminal. Realistically the LP chair and the “new” party would be under investigation for stealing data and physical property.
I have lived all my life in the big city and have no immediate plans to change. I am not a fan of online/bulk shopping so I like having all sorts of shops restaurants etc within walking distance.
As a child I did spent my summers in rural areas and for a kid it was great. As an adult, rural Romania is not necessarily what I am looking for.
I like the city but it is getting to noisy and dirty for my taste as I age… I think ideally would be a smaller town with enough amenities – this does not exist in Romania but may in richer countries, a small town with a decent cafe a decent bistro a few nice shops – just outside of commuting range (so the prices are low), so I can get to the city if I want… Ideally enough money to keep both an apartment in the big city and a house in the small town, spend weekends in the city and weekdays in the country
Must be cheap to live in rural Romania, though.
Must be cheap to live in rural Romania – housing yes. Otherwise it is the same
Today’s lunchtime quick sketch. Obv no ruler was used.
https://ibb.co/JQbw821
Ah, another liquid lunch.
Small town, within 2 hours of city.
When I was younger I’d have said small town / rural, I am less social now, but for health reasons need to be nearer to a social network such as a church, Moose lodge, etc.
Even if I were independently wealthy, I’d choose to be among people, whether suburban, small town, or city.
Greetings from Ticklandia! Population 6 trillion Ticks and a few thousand Hoomans. My friends idea about tick collars on my ankles seems to work well, nothing to pick off of me yesterday,
let’s Carpe some Diem My Glibbies!
I doubt you wear long sleeves or pants, but remember that YardGuard™ fogger stuff? When I was stationed @ Ft. Hood, we used to hose our BDU’s down with it before going out in the field.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FOX29philly/status/1405095303431159808
No more cocktails to go. Not that I ever used that option.
How did that work? Sealed container for delivery/takeout?
Not sure. I’ll pay a premium to drink while dining out, but not for takeout.
Same here. Most of my local area towns now allow you to wander about the town squares and adjacent areas with booze in hand during events and on weekends. Delivery just seems weird though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHdr4rWG98
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https://www.phillyvoice.com/wallethub-2021-best-states-live-rankings-new-jersey-pennsylvania/
#FakeNews
What criteria are they basing this absurd claim on? All my usual jibes at Jersey aside, the downsides of the state make it no better than New York as a residency option. It’s not even a contender for someplace to drive through simply because I like not being imprisioned for perfectly legal activity.
I’d move to Bumfuck, Mississippi before I’d move to Jersey.
They’ve rebranded, you know.
It’s now Teen Vogue, Mississippi.
Classy. When you close on a house there, you get a free subscription and a 55 gallon barrel of lube.
Jersey?
Bull.
Shit.
So, to Chipwooder’s point above, I grew up in a very rural environment – on a sailboat throughout the Keys and Caribbean, then sparsely populated Southwest Florida. I hated it, I couldn’t wait to get away from all that green and live in a concrete jungle. Three decades in NOLA and NYC have cured me of that misapprehension. I hate almost everything about living in NYC, but then there are times (like this morning) that give me pause. I left work at 5:30am, called the bagel shop over in Broad Chanel and ordered the Hungry Man sammich (3 eggs, bacon, sausage, ham, & cheese on a hero). It was ready in the 10 minutes it took to get there, cost me $4.99, and is very, very delicious.
I would like living in NYC more if I didn’t have to commute to Jersey City. I miss having endless options for lunch and not spending double what I used to on commuting, among other things. Since 2014 Manhattan has been nothing but walking through various incarnations of the PATH station on the way to work.
“I surrendered my privacy and freedom for a sandwich”
Heh. I will take the boonies.
Scorch! Seriously though, your point is well taken and I do pine for a large Colorado compound made largely from shipping containers. I do however find the anonymity of living in Mega City One to be greater than that of smaller places I’ve lived. Here, nobody knows anyone who doesn’t want to be known, nobody gives a tinker’s damn what their neighbor is up to, and people largely want to be left alone.
suh’ fam ?
yo what’s goody yo
I have no idea.
Good morning, homey & U… & Yu & Sean & l0 & TARDy! Took me two smacks at the snooze to rouse myself this morning, but here I am. Another Dragons game tonight, but I don’t know if that guarantees rain any more.
One of the few things I’ve managed to do is never use the snooze button.
I have learned to change the time on my alarm in my sleep. (Not really, but in that kinda half awake state)
Changing the time seems as if it would be riskier in terms of the potential for oversleeping. Does it work for you?
It seems to. My alarm clock has a foward, fast forward and reverse buttons for changing the time, so I can’t accidentally change the hour instead of the minute.
Mine may be too high tech for my own good. It makes a wireless connection to some atomic clock out west, and changing the time for DST becomes a challenge. You have to figure out which number setting corresponds to your time zone and other such rigmarole whether you’re springing forward or falling back.
I use my phone, thats thinks its still in Cali, gotta watch it when dst rolls around
Mine is so simple it has been working for the past 21 years, even after repeatedly being dropped from 7 feet up (my college dorm bed was above the desk and I’d sometimes knock the clock off the edge)
I had one that I’d used for years, but for some mysterious reason a year or two ago it seemed to become unreliable, and if you can’t trust your alarm clock, what/who CAN you trust??
I usually wake up just before my regular alarm, because my other alarm (bladder) is going off. Then I have to shut off the alarm and try to remember to turn it back on before I go to bed.
*waves*
I’ve had the same alarm clock for about 20 years.
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Looks just like that one. I can’t believe how durable it turned out to be.
New Interim Supervisor’s butt is tighter than a Marine’s bunk, so I got that going for me… 🙂 She’s a letter carrier by trade so she has the same derriere that I do but in female form.
Mornin’, Tres. All quiet on the eastern front.
Always Brooksing the last post, I am.
Nah, sup Tardis? Almost worktime for me
Mornin’ Yu, just minding the store since my peers are screwing off today.
Getting back to the original question, always suburban, semi-rural or small town. We travelled into the City proper for debauchery but we could always go rambling if that what took our fancy. 12 year-olds with rifles wandering down the street was very common back then. Heck we used to go winter camping. Build a lean-to, shoot some supper, build a huge fire etc. Squirrel is ok but snowshoe hare and grouse are better. We were never more than a mile or two from our basement bedrooms and Flintstones reruns.
Addended – always bring bacon, eggs and a few spuds if you ever attempt this at home! Hungry boys will clean out the fridge if the hunting was bad.
I grew up in a small town. My kid marvels at life in the 80s, and the fact that come deer season, it was common to see shotguns in racks in pickups. Parked in the student lot.
Akshually, our school was so small it was just a “lot” that faculty used, too.
Or that the FFA/Vo-Ag guys that spent an inordinate amount of their day in and around the shop area always had a Buck or Case lockblade on their belt. In school.
Times have changed, Friend. I went to a “rich” school and there were maybe 30-40 kids that owned their own vehicles. The “poor” schools parking lots were filled with cars and trucks.
ex-Ms. TresCool did her part of her student teaching at a well-to-do school in Cincinnati near my office. We drove separately cause she left earlier, and one day she forgot her bag and asked me to bring it and put it in her jeep. The cars in the student lot were vastly newer and pricier than what was rusting in the teacher’s lot.
(anecdote NOT an argument for “teachers need more money”)
Maybe they should pay the students less.
I did hear on the local news radio that enrollment at catholic schools went way up this past year. Catholic schools in this area have modest tuition costs that are heavily subsidized by the diocese. Seemed encouraging. I’m no papist but anything that gets kids out of the clutches of the public school system seems like a win.
Here on the Rockaway Peninsula, enrollment went up significantly at the two Catholic schools last year because they didn’t shut down.
The “poor” kids had Dad’s that bought them pieces of shit cars and knew how to keep them breathing. The “rich” kids had Dad’s like mine that wore suit and tie and wouldn’t be caught dead with the black crescents. Simple as that.
ERMAGHERD !
They’re ramping up the gun-control narrative. Now they’re actually reporting on shootings in…..Chicago (in my local news).
Proper link from Chi-town
5 shot in West Garfield Park Tuesday night
Not even July yet, and Shit-town gonna bust 2019
Unless there’s an absolute massacre in Cook County, I cant recall seeing any news about Chicagoland shooters in our local news outlet.
Cox Media Group must be ramping up the propaganda machine, is my immediate take on it.
Linky here.
*cringe*
Heh. That’s always my favorite stat.
12 murders this week?! Jesus.
More likely Jamal.
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2021/06/15/suspect-in-georgia-supermarket-shooting-no-stranger-to-police-n46566
Yet again, showing how broken our criminal justice system is.
I prefer urban in a small-sized city, with easy access to rural. I like being able to walk to a bar, restaurant, corner store. The appeal of close-in living may fade but for now I don’t mind.
I think suburb is the worst of both worlds.
From age 3 to 18, I lived on a 28 acre farm about an hour southeast of Columbus OH. Went off to school, came home on breaks, then moved to Columbus when I started working. Got married to a girl that also grew up in the country, and after a couple years we decided we needed to have some space between us and our neighbors. Moved to 33 acres about a hour due east of Columbus.
Growing up as a kid, the nearest house with kids my age was a mile+ walk. I didn’t get much socialization, didn’t have good friends until junior high. The school district I was in was shit, the high school principal’s stated goal was to “get them ready enough to work at Anchor-Hocking.” From that point of view, growing up “in the sticks” was suboptimal.
Both “at home” and my current home, the grown-ups have day jobs. We contract with local farmers to plant crops, but even so, there is property maintenance that we can’t keep up with in the available evenings and weekends. If you’re thinking “big plot of land with a house in the middle,” don’t forget the labor involved in owning land.
That said, I’m fairly happy where I am. I can see my neighbors, but at a comfortable distance. About 20 minutes to decent groceries, about 45 minutes to a decent hospital. I’d be happier if I wasn’t in Ohio, I’d prefer a state that wasn’t so tax-hungry. But circumstances, etc., so here I stay.
“I’d be happier if I wasn’t in Ohio”
I’ve heard that one before.
We are surrounded by forest so fire season is always a worry.
I’m in the burbs now. I have lived in Boston and Los Angeles – fun my 20s, no interest now. The next place will be small town and / or rural.