The Hero’s Journey

by | Jun 19, 2021 | Beer, Food & Drink, Guns, Military, Second Amendment | 90 comments

Its funny how quickly the MSN homepage figures out what links to toss at you to get itself some clicks.  Because on Thursday morning, those guys got me to click.

This is my review of Firetruck Brewing Co Hero Dunkel:

On Thursday, local media in Massachusetts reported a local police Lieutenant filing a lawsuit against Sig Sauer because the gun somehow went off on its own while he was handling it in a SWAT van:

“He removed the Sig from his holster, looked for any obstructions in its holster, and as he was holding or moving the Sig (Sauer handgun) in front of his body it discharged with his finger nowhere near the trigger,” said attorney Jeff Bagnell, who represents Ahern and other officers around the country who say their P320s have fired on their own.

In the lawsuit, Ahern accuses Sig Sauer of selling a dangerously defective product and the city of Cambridge of retaliating against him for vocally opposing the police department’s purchase of more than 300 P320s.

Not my cup of tea, but a fine piece nonetheless.

That this is total bullshit, is my gut reaction to this claim.  The Sig P320 is a striker fire design.  I recognize there are some issues from other companies in the past that had problems with the drop test. In fact a pistol I purchased in college had one such design problem where the spring holding the firing pin block in place was too light and the block would fall if the pistol fell a certain way.  This was redressed by either Taurus paying for a new pistol or sending me a check.  I took the check and used it to buy one of these.

Sig Sauer however, is a highly reputable arms maker, and the US Army purchased the Sig P320 as a general purpose sidearm a couple years ago.  There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the US Army, but they aren’t going to field a weapon that just goes off on its own, right?  They’ll put it through a few endurance tests. This should be good to go, right?

Well

Primary among them, the aforementioned drop test issue that made headlines late last year. If dropped from the correct angle (onto the dovetail of the pistol) the M17 and M18 platforms are prone to discharging a round.

Want to know what doesn’t go off when you drop it?  A 1911.  Still, the Sig has to be dropped in a very particular way in order for this to be a problem, and it is highly unlikely it falls that way.  Which brings us back to today’s hero where once again, he:

“[…] removed the Sig from his holster, looked for any obstructions in its holster, and as he was holding or moving the Sig (Sauer handgun) in front of his body it discharged with his finger nowhere near the trigger,”

Sig Sauer should counter sue for defamation or whatever the proper legal term is for an idiot cop taking out his gun in a vehicle and failing to keep his finger off the trigger and then blaming the gun for going off on its own.  This cop could’ve killed people by being an idiot.

 

This beer is from Tucson and happens to made by actual firefighters.  Which does put them a notch or two higher in my book.  Being a former AF Civil Engineer, my opinion of firefighters is a bunch of guys that call me in the middle of the night to turn off a fire alarm, enforce fire code based on Mercury being retrograde, hang out at their own gym, and otherwise sit around the station washing their trucks everyday.  The fact they picked a Dunkel is a bold move given everyone has to throw out an IPA to make sales. Plus it is available for purchase at Sprouts.  Where I get to bring out my inner troll and buy a product with a hero worshiping line flag on the front while everyone else is waiting at six foot intervals to purchase a week’s worth of tempeh.  Its a win-win.  Firetruck Brewing Co Hero Dunkel: 3.9/5

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90 Comments

  1. Ownbestenemy

    Our radar site in the AF was just across the apron at Holloman and the fire department.

    To mess with them, in the middle of the night on the airfield we would launch fireworks. They called us a couple of times and we feigned ignorance. They were pretty useless.

    Might try the beer though.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I’m surprised you didn’t get a call from Security Forces.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You and me both.

    • rhywun

      Up next in National

      What is White racial identity and why is it important?

      *jumps to click on that*

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Affinity for sunblock?

  2. The Late P Brooks

    discharged with his finger nowhere near the trigger

    It were POSESSED!

  3. Cy Esquire

    As someone who has dealt a lot with equipment and pumps, modern gargantuan firetrucks are pretty out dated. Yet they still keep making them that way. It is semi irritating when I see a monster frie truck roll up to what appears to be a medical call. Really guys? Couldn’t take the crew cab?

    • mikey

      Our MA town said we needed to go into debt to build a new fire house. Seems the giant new fire truck they just bought wouldn’t fit the old (maybe 10 years) building.
      The Fire Truck Committee created a ridiculously complex spec for the truck. However, they “forgot” to include max dimensions.

    • LCDR_Fish

      That’s an interesting point I hadn’t thought about. In the Navy for firefighting training, they get us started on the portable diesel P-1000 (I can’t recall the specs) as soon as you’re in. You’re supposed to know how to operate all the gear, but outside the class, most of us rarely touch them unless actually assigned to a fire fighting party, not another DC (“damage control”) station. Either way, there are normally only a handful of them on a normal ship, but if you have a good source of water, they’re extremely effective (at least for the water pressure in an enclosed space).

    • creech

      You can’t attract the youthful volunteer fire fighters by rolling out a converted F-250 with a water tank in the bed. I used to work with a volunteer dept. fire chief and he commented he would be lynched if he proposed any new truck without a shit ton of chrome and fancy doodads.

      • Cy Esquire

        I have never heard of any FD having issues finding new recruits. Most of the time I hear it’s really competitive to get in. Not physically, it’s who you’re related to and what special boxes you check.

      • Sensei

        Maybe more of an east coast thing. My conversations with volunteers here in NJ line up with creech.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Fire districts around here are struggling to find volunteers. More and more paid city slots to soak up the younger ones with interest (or they leave after a year or two in a volunteer position), changing work and social routines, and increased certification & training requirements (both individual and for fire districts). I looked at the latest recruitment for my district. They’ve been on a tear, merging with others, and moving from volunteer driven to more paid. They now want a 24 hour commitment every six days at their manned stations in addition to academy and training. No more local volunteers responding to unmanned station to grab apparatus there.

    • Not Adahn

      At work, we have an F250, a F450, a 1983 GMC and a cabover Spartan class A that we got from Edina FD.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Same reason they take their engine for grocery shopping and do it as a group. Or did in the precavido times.

      • Not Adahn

        Ass time is required to be a competent driver.

      • Loveconstitution1789

        Might look like wasted time but those trucks require practice to drive and know which streets to take and when.

        Not saying all fire depts are frugal on fire truck mileage but training makes better firefighters/drivers.

    • Spudalicious

      What happens when they clear that call in a crew cab and get a structure fire call?

  4. The Late P Brooks

    Do you wear clear plastic platform shoes with fish in them when you carry a gun like the one in the photo?

  5. LCDR_Fish

    hang out at their own gym

    I wish – at Dahlgren, they always hang out in the base gym all day.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    What is White racial identity and why is it important?

    Successful, lawful, wealthy societies?

    I should probably go to the box and feel shame.

    • rhywun

      Except that could have come out of any “anti-racism” training.

    • Cy Esquire

      You could always walk through the streets naked…

  7. grrizzly

    What a relief! It wasn’t Major. It was Champ.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      But we’ll always remember him for taking a dump on historical artifacts.

  8. creech

    Here’s columnist Steve Roberts today on voting rights: “Republicans’ undemocratic and unjustified assaults on (voting) rights.” Are Republicans trying to take away voting rights, or are they just codifying the procedures under which one casts their ballot? It isn’t assaulting anyone’s voting rights to give them 10 days early voting instead of 11 or 12. And if such requirements as to when you show up to vote, or produce I.D., are impermissible assaults on constitutional rights, then whycome the same folks are happy to advocate for gun permits, waiting requirements, or preventing folks who’ve served their incarceration terms from carrying a weapon?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Is he suggesting we not have any voting regulations at all, to the point where we are allowed to vote wherever and whenever we want?

      • Animal

        Yes, that’s precisely what they want. And lowering the voting age to sixteen while they’re at it.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        I’m strangely comfortable with the idea of requiring elected officials being subject to a daily vote to remain in office. Let me chew in that one for a bit.

      • Animal

        No, I can’t go along with that, if they had to face election every day they’d be constantly campaigning and worrying about their phony-baloney jobs and would never have any time to actually craft any… legislation…

        …Hang on…

    • leon

      12 days is not enough time! We need 1460 day early voting!

    • The Hyperbole

      He lost me as soon as he used the word “whycome”.

  9. Timeloose

    I and 10 of my friends camped last weekend at a Vol fire house’s picnic grounds as a alternative to my annual motorcycle rally in Lake George NY. The Americade rally has been canceled for the past 2 years or delayed to the fall.

    This company had a social club with a full bar, pool tables, video poker and gambling. They have a huge series of pavilions and banquet facilities.

    They fund big capital purchases with a yearly motorcycle and gun raffle. No direct tax payer funding. The community volunteers their time, resources, and money voluntarily to make it a great asset to the community.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    a converted F-250 with a water tank in the bed.

    Which reminds me:

    A while back, in Bozeman, I was behind a truck (most likely a landscaper) with a big translucent plastic tank on the back, which obviously had no internal baffling. We stopped for a red light, and the liquid inside sloshed to and fro for the entire time the light was red. I’ll bet that thing is fun to drive on a winding road.

    • Desk Jockey

      My old man rigged up his 08 F350 to do this. The sloshing eventually broke the front bed mounts. He used it as an excuse to drop a utility bed on it. Still uses it for hauling the water tank though.

    • rhywun

      1990 and its quadruple the current number of yearly homicides here we come? Yeah, we have a long way to go to reach those days. The Post likes to spread fear of their own.

      • Sensei

        It’s what they do as the Daily News’ job is to explains how wonderful NYC is.

      • rhywun

        Gah, really? I haven’t read them in ages. Not since they turned into an arm of the left wing of the DNC.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      At least it was cheap then; possibly why people put up with it.

      (But: “$400 a month?! With bad plumbing and bugs?”)

  11. Sean

    Almost no masks seen at Tractor Supply today and maybe half of shoppers at The Fresh Market.

    Also, TFM has given up on distancing at the meat counter.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I wonder what that science project girl is doing these days.

      • Sean

        *googles*

        “Laura did not, however, pursue a career in science after high school. She earned an undergraduate degree in religious studies from a college in the Midwest and a master’s in divinity from a large eastern university.

        She is on the staff of an interdenominational Protestant church at a prestigious American university.”

        Nothing productive.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Thanks for FGT for me. Didn’t know any name or bio aside from Sandia Labs (?).

      • Sean

        ?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      They’re even half and half at grocery stores here. Only one guy holding out at the gym. Although the barber shop had a “preference” for everyone to continue following their protocols.

    • Nephilium

      Went out last night, saw only a handful of masks. The ones that stood out the most were those who were gambling in the casino wearing a mask. FFS, you think you’re lucky enough to beat house odds, and you think you’re unlucky enough to get seriously ill from the ‘vid?

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Just back from the grocery store. Just a small cadre of hard core mask dead-enders. Murdochs, the same. One old lady and her (presumably) early-teens grandson. Under duress, hopefully.

    • R C Dean

      Which one?

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Victims, I tell you

    As American cities confront a rise in gun violence ahead of an expected summertime crime surge, concerns about a retreat in proactive policing are mounting across the country amid a debate over brutality and systemic racism that followed the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis.
    “You just have to be honest and say that police in America are far more cautious today about stopping someone than they were a year ago,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a law enforcement policy group. “Proactive policing is much more complicated. And now we’re in the post George Floyd era, which makes police understandably cautious.”
    The roughly 50 Portland police officers who stepped down this week from the bureau’s rapid response team — but will remain on the job — are hardly alone in what they view as unfair scrutiny of their profession.

    Boo fucking hoo. How could this have happened?

    Nobody knows.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    Proactive policing involves aggressive, officer-initiated enforcement — such as street stops — and heightened police presence in high crime areas to combat firearms violations and other crimes.

    Maybe you should focus on real crimes with real victims.

    Haha, I crack myself up.

    • Sean

      There’s no money in that.

    • Chipping Pioneer

      Deedle-ee-dee, mate!

    • The Hyperbole

      Wasn’t Australia colonized by a bunch of criminal Paddys anyway? Potato, Potuyto

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Truly the news story of the decade

  15. The Late P Brooks

    She is on the staff of an interdenominational Protestant church at a prestigious American university.”

    Nothing productive.

    That’s not just non-productive. That’s anti-productive.

  16. Not Adahn

    At the diner this morning, the staff is still masked.

    However, they opened up the counter again, and have decided to keep the back parking lot converted for outdoor dining. I don’t blame them — more tables means a shorter wait.

  17. R C Dean

    I’m at Firetruck’s east side pub right now. I like their beer and food both. Working their Hotshot Hazy IPA now – a good hot weather brew, not too hoppy. The Dunkel is a regular in the cool weather rotation.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Nice. This is pretty much the only thing I’ve seen from them up here.

  18. R C Dean

    And yeah, that cop fucked up. His account is a little too textbook – who checks their holster for obstruction immediately after drawing?

    • Tres Cool

      Barney Fife ?

      • R C Dean

        I can just see tacticool Barney.

        At Front Sight, they said holstering was the most dangerous thing we would do, but, good news, you never had to holster fast so you could check your holster then and stick the gun in nice and slow and easy. The ADs were always somebody’s boogerhook on the bang switch when they holstered.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Part of why I’m switching to a DA/SA Beretta

      • Not Adahn

        I have had clothing want to jump into the holster along with the gun, but so far have caught things before unexpected bangs occurred. I also do the “thumb on the hammer” thing with the DA guns to help prevent that.

    • Not Adahn

      He checked it for obstruction because he had something stuck inside the trigger guard.

      But…

      The Canadian Special Mounted Moose Forces ditched the P320 because of a purported spontaneous discharge. SIG claimed the snowssassin jammed it into an incorrect holder.

      • R C Dean

        Ah, something inside the trigger guard but he didn’t put a finger inside the trigger guard?

        Sure.

      • Not Adahn

        It happens. Usually clothing, but could be any sort of detritus. Fast food wrapper, mebbe?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Donut

      • Not Adahn

        It’d have to be pretty stale to press the trigger. Coffee stirrer?

      • Q Continuum

        His tiny penis.

      • EvilSheldon

        Cord lock on the hem adjustment of his jacket. Those things are notorious for getting stuck in holsters.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        *rechecks article*

        Fat fuck cop. I’ll entertain the fast food wrapper theory.

    • Not Adahn

      The salespeople at the KY Gun Co. are pretty slick.

    • Sean

      Still $100 over what it should be. Freaking covid.

  19. rhywun

    Manhattan City Council candidate caught with dominatrix in leaked video

    ??

    They left out his party affiliation. I guess we can assume.

    • The Hyperbole

      The footage — flagged to The Post by Weiner’s own campaign manager —

      The timing of the video suddenly puts the spotlight on Weiner, who has mostly been a nonentity in the race for the Upper West Side’s 6th District, during early primary voting.

      sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeah, it’s a “leaked” video for sure.

      • zwak

        So, water sports?

      • Q Continuum

        Could also be female ejaculation but in this context peeing is more likely.

    • Grumbletarian

      They have a picture of the guy. So that’s what Pajama Boy is like sans pajamas.

  20. LCDR_Fish

    Garlic shrimp turned out well – even better with garlic riced cauliflower. A little limited by skillet size though…will do better next time ;p