I know, I’m the proverbial one-trick pony with the vaccine thing, but… hey, at least it’s topical! This is what I posted on my blog in response to the deluge of calls and contacts I’ve gotten. I still have 24 unread messages on my phone – they are almost ALL about the vax mandates. Read and enjoy!
If you’re an active duty, active Reserve, Title 32 servicemember (part of the Total Force) subject to the upcoming DoD Mandatory Covid Vaccine Shitshow, and you’ve found your way here looking for information about it – Welcome! You’re in the right place. Grab your favorite drink, put your feet up, and get your thinking cap on – I’ve got a lot of ground to cover and time is short. The Cathedral Media was reporting breathlessly yesterday that the FDA is going to “approve” one of the vaccines. Normally, I would first introduce myself, explain my background and history, give you a chance to judge my bona fides, as it were, and decide if I’m credible enough to listen to on this subject in this new era of misinformation we’re all living. For now, I’m going in reverse order. Info first, and then I’ll put up a post later (after this one) to explain my Ethos, as an ancient Greek rhetorician would understand it – the information that answers the question: “Who Am I?” when I speak on a matter publicly.
I probably should say upfront that I am a licensed attorney, actively licensed in several states, and I have been since 1999. I’m also a former judge advocate. What follows isn’t legal advice, though, because I’ve never met you, nor formed an attorney-client relationship with you. What I can do for you is provide a roadmap of what you’re facing and arm you with some information based upon my past experiences – and in light of the litigation I am currently involved in to try to stop this vaccine mandate against servicemembers. I am one of several attorneys who filed a class-action lawsuit last Tuesday (I believe) in Colorado federal district court. That lawsuit’s primary focus was to ask a judge to prohibit the DoD from forcing anyone who has prior immunity from receiving this vaccine – regardless of the vaccine’s status with the FDA.
Our claim comes straight out of the DoD’s all-service publication – AR 40-562, ¶2-6. (The other services use the same pub, but it has a different name for each service. To reduce confusion, I’m just using the Army pub nomenclature, but it applies to all servicemembers.) ¶2-6 lists all of the medical and administrative reasons a servicemember could or should be exempted from receiving this vaccine. I have highlighted the important parts below.
Medical Exemptions.
a. Medical exemptions. A medical exemption includes any medical contraindication relevant to a specific vaccine or other medication. Health care providers will determine a medical exemption based on the health of the vaccine candidate and the nature of the immunization under consideration. Medical exemptions may be temporary (up to 365 days) or permanent. Standard exemption codes appear in appendix C. (1) General examples of medical exemptions include the following— (a) Underlying health condition of the vaccine candidate (for example, based on immune competence, pharmacologic or radiation therapy, pregnancy and/or previous adverse response to immunization). (b) Evidence of immunity based on serologic tests, documented infection, or similar circumstances. (c) An individual’s clinical case is not readily definable. In such cases, consult appropriate medical specialists, including specialists in immunization health care.
Our lawsuit focuses upon¶2-6(a)(1)(b) because it relies upon sound immunology principles, namely that prior infection by a virus is the best possible protection and obviates the need for any vaccine, particularly given the lack of long-term safety data for the current vaccine. If you have something in your military treatment record showing that you already had Covid-19, then you should be exempted. It also means you are part of the class of people we’re in court suing and you’re entitled to ask the military to hold off on doing anything until your lawsuit is decided. If it’s not in your medical record, but you know you had it, tests are available commercially, but I can’t speak for any of them. I know some do a better job than others at picking up T-cell immunity and might be able to detect if you’ve had the virus for a longer time afterward, but it’s not foolproof.
One other point that I will make on medical exemptions is that it is perfectly legitimate to ask anyone providing you with medical treatment whether or not something you are going to be injected with interacts with other specific conditions you may have. For example, a relatively common genetic condition (~10%) among young black males is G6PD deficiency.
In most cases, G6PD deficiency does not cause problems. Problems may occur if you are exposed to medicines or foods that may harm your blood cells. Depending on your gene flaw, you may be able to handle a small amount of these exposures.
Treatment may include:
- Avoiding certain medicines, foods, and environmental exposures
- Telling your providers that you have G6PD deficiency
- Checking with your provider before taking any medicine
Administrative Exemptions.
The bulk of administrative exceptions to the vaccine will fall under the broad category of “religious,” but I would like to make servicemembers aware that there are a number of administrative exemptions worth pursuing, even if they are listed as being discretionary with the command. AR 40-562¶2-6(b) states that if you’re within 180 days of your retirement or separation, you may be exempted from deployment immunizations. Note well:
Personnel who meet separation or retirement requirements and desire an immunization exemption must identify themselves to their commander. The member must have approved retirement or separation orders. Active duty personnel continuing duty in the reserve component are not exempted on this basis. AR 40-562 ¶2-6(b)(1)(b)
If you are within 30 days of your separation, you should be exempted under (b)(2).
AR 40-562¶2-6(b)(3) covers religious exemptions. This is a mix of good news and bad news. I’ve pasted the whole thing with my commentary below.
(3) Religious exemptions. (a) Servicemembers. Immunization exemptions for religious reasons may be granted according to Service-specific policies to accommodate religious beliefs of a Service member. This is a command decision made with medical, judge advocate, and chaplain input.
- Requests for religious exemption must comply with the provisions of the applicable policy and/or regulation for the Servicemember requesting religious accommodation. For the Army, religious accommodation policy is provided in AR 600–20. For the Navy and Marine Corps, waivers are granted on a case-by-case basis by the Chief, Bureau of Medicine, and Surgery. For the Air Force, permanent exemptions for religious reasons are not granted; the MAJCOM commander is the designated approval and revocation authority for temporary immunization exemptions. For the Coast Guard, CG–122 is the designated approval and revocation authority for religious immunization exemptions. USCG requests must be forwarded through the appropriate chain to Commandant CG–122 via CG–112.
- A military physician must counsel the applicant. The physician should ensure that the Servicemember is making an informed decision and should address, at a minimum, specific information about the diseases concerned; specific vaccine information including product constituents, benefits, and risks; and potential risks of infection incurred by unimmunized individuals.
- The commander must counsel the individual that noncompliance with immunization requirements may adversely impact deployability, assignment, or international travel.
- Per DODI 1300.17 and applicable service regulations will be provided whether Servicemembers with pending active requests for religious exemption are temporarily deferred from immunizations, pending outcome of their request.
- Religious exemptions may be revoked, in accordance with Service-specific policies and procedures, if the individual and/or unit are at imminent risk of exposure to a disease for which an immunization is available.
A few bits of commentary about religious exemptions.
- First, there are very, very good reasons of conscience to not take these vaccines. That all of the vaccines were made and developed using aborted fetal tissue is simply the most obvious “religious” reason because of (a) how politically charged that issue is in our national discourse, and (b) how it intersects with the views of major religious denominations. Please don’t limit your thinking that this is the only “firmly held religious” reason or belief that could justify an exemption. What you call yourself or whether it has the backing of some major denomination does not determine whether your belief is a “deeply held religious belief” or not. What matters is that if your belief system and cosmology for how the Universe works doesn’t allow you to be coerced into taking an experimental vaccine.
- Second, there are many good sites with templates in MS Word or PDF that you can work from to create your own personal request for a religious exemption. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REQUEST AN EXEMPTION. The DoD system isn’t setup to deal with 100,000 requests for religious and medical exemptions. Your single request may not seem like much, but it’s just like your vote – collectively, a large chunk of these could make a huge difference in stopping the whole damn thing in its tracks. The press around (for example) 175K exemptions and 25K courts-martial cases would be something the DoD and public could not ignore.
- Here is a simple Catholic template and a site with more detailed ones from the Colorado Catholic Conference.
- The social media platform Gab has a site with some very, very detailed Christian religious exemption requests in a variety of formats, with links to supporting information and documents.
- The Air Force instruction does allow you to submit a request for a “temporary religious exemption” even though the language of the medical instruction makes it sound pretty dismal. The Gab link above includes a text sample request for Air Force folks. USE IT and ADAPT IT TO YOUR SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.
I’m going to close Part 1 of this to give you this info and give me time to do some more writing. I’ve put this on my dinky little blog because it’s the one place on the internet I know I can’t be throttled or shut down by being labelled “misinformation” by some fact-check twerp who knows nothing about this subject. In the next piece I’ll discuss the relevant federal statutes in play and discuss some larger reasons why I believe this whole response to the pandemic – the masking, lockdowns, and forced vaxxing – constitute a massive and flagrant human rights violation – a belief that I am not alone in holding, I hasten to add. A good number of highly credentialed experts, including doctors, medical ethicists, immunologists, nephrologists, and lawyers know that this is wrong. And that would be my final message in closing: You’re not alone. You are not crazy. You’re not a conspiracy theorist for asking why you should be given a rushed biologic product for something that is a non-threat to a healthy, young military servicemember.
You’re doing great work, Ozy.
Yep talk about going to the trenches
Hell yeah, Ozy! Bringing the heat!
Thanks for this.
I know, I’m the proverbial one-trick pony
I am a zero trick pony. I have no tricks.
You are doing great work, Im in awe and wish I could help somehow.
Wow. That is a lot to take in…
I had no idea…
Molech is ascendant. Never would have expected it a decade ago.
I knew I was right in my heart, it’s all coming to be,
My understanding is fetal tissue lines were used in development, but not production.
Which still in my mind falls under ‘I don’t want to engage or be a part of the process that used such techniques’.
Of course I can see the over arching implications down the road.
Oh you need (insert any medicine)? Well those were developed first by fetal tissues and well…you said you are against it.
My reasons are religous, but not having to do with fetal tissue, more along the lines of The Beast.
Yeah, I was flipping through radio stations during my lunch break at work the other day, and one covidiot announcer was saying something to the effect of “You stupid anti-vaxers don’t want this chemical in your body? Well when you get covid and wind up in the hospital, they’ll put other chemicals you don’t want in your body!”
I have a feeling that hospitals will soon want to put this chemical in your body as a condition of admitting you.
What chemicals? What’s the typical treatment? Anything that we’re not supposed to talk about?
True for the mRNA ones. J&J uses it in production.
Heard the same from my wife.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells
“When it comes to the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, fetal cell line HEK 293 was used during the research and development phase. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. Using fetal cell lines to test the effectiveness and safety of medications is common practice, because they provide a consistent and well-documented standard.
For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, fetal cell lines were used in the production and manufacturing stage. To make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, scientists infect PER.C6 fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus vector. (Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.) All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. This cell line is used because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines.”
JHC — from that long ago? You know, you would *think* there’s been at least one or two miscarriages since then that would provide similar tissue but have less moral turpitude attached. (May still be some issues for some folks, but like cadavers you could at least argue that they’re contributing post mortem after as natural a death as you can get).
Be glad we aren’t using “cell line from a 1943 camp….”, I suppose.
But using a fetal cell line that isn’t from an abortion would take away something for the abortion people to fight about.
Once something becomes the standard inertia takes over. There also may be something qualitatively different about a miscarried baby. For example, it might be dead long before it comes out while an aborted baby is freshly picked. Just brainstorming here.
You know who else used the Dutch for medical experimentation?
The Dutch?
Thanks for posting this Ozy. I too am facing a mandate and am looking to fight it. What would be my specific claims for disobeying? Executive Orders are not in the constitution? Other civil rights violations? If I wanted local representation what should I look for in a lawyer?
My path is: no attestation, which automatically treats me as unvaccinated*. Come October 6th I think, if I don’t start my first round, I won’t be “fully vaccinated” by the deadline on Nov 22.
Nov 22 rolls through, my supervisor will have to start discipline paperwork in which I have 30 days to appeal. After that 30 days, they can move to remove but that could be another 30-60 days, in which I will most likely be put in a forced unpaid leave status OR removed from my 2 year gig and go back under the union. Not sure what route they are taking.
Shouldn’t that be Nov 8? Two weeks after single dose J&J?
If you find it
Right, but that would be that last drop dead date so they couldn’t before that.
Correct. It almost makes me want to run out, get fully vaccinated and still refuse to share medical information not for an accommodation but for the ability to work.
I’m on a similar timeline, just not sure the exact details. I believe I will end up getting fired over this. I’m okay with that. When I think about it my biggest fear is losing friends. We’ll see I guess. I know the mandate is wrong and want to push back because I can, and because I know others can’t.
As I mentioned yesterday, my work sent out a notice yesterday saying that they will be complying with the rules… when the rules are written and announced. As I’m non-government, I’ll at least have the option of weekly tests instead of the shot. I’m fully WFH, and haven’t interacted with a coworker in person since March 13th of 2020. So those tests will be very useful I’m sure.
My company keeps “encouraging” us to vaccinate – so far without asking for proof or giving us the “or else” ultimatum. Hope it stays that way, but I’m not taking it even if they threaten to fire me.
IB – I have a lot more on my blog in posts 2-4. They’re also going to be put up as pieces in the coming weeks, but if you don’t want to wait, just go to my blog.
http://www.theabjectlesson.com – the top 4 articles (the most recent) are all there. The 4th one seems to be getting passed around the military’s refuser network and somehow it got shared to one of my co-counsel, who then shared it amongst our group. (As in, “hey, check THIS out!” And then he sheepishly was like, “Oh, Ozy, that’s you. Whoops.”)
In other news, today an attorney filed a direct challenge to the whole damned thing in the federal district court for DC. I think it might be the best complaint yet filed because of how thorough and clear it is about the various ways of attacking this. I don’t know how to post up a copy of the suit, but it’s damn good. You would need a PACER account to get it, but the case number is 1:21-cv-02484
What the FDA is doing is absolutely criminal, in its attempt to simultaneously give the Pfizer BNT vaccine EUA status (and therefore liability protection) while simultaneously licensing a different vaccine (COMIRNATY) that is not available – and then trying to say that they’re “interchangeable”. Thus trying to let the Pfizer BNT vax don the “license” cape of the unavailable vaccine for purposes of making it mandatory. It’s patently illegal because BNT is clearly still in an EUA status and EUA products absolutely can NOT be mandated. They know it, too, but they’re engaging in all kinds of legal legerdemain and slippery language in an attempt to confuse people into bowing to this.
Did drugs fall out of his ass? 😉
LOL. Nice.
Thanks Ozy. I’ll check it out.
The liability protection isn’t contingent on EUA status, but under the HHS secretary’s countermeasures declaration which can include fully approved items.
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/prepqa.aspx#immune4
You’re not alone. You are not crazy.
That’s incredibly helpful even if the PTB manage to squish our rights.
God bless ya , Ozy!
This is important work.
Sean,
The One Infinite Creator blesses us all beyond measure every day; it’s our job to come to that realization and live into it.
Some days are easier than others.
For myself, I feel so grateful because I have a bounty beyond my wildest dreams – and I mean that literally. What I have now for my life is beyond what I had ever dreamed of growing up. I try to cultivate a daily gratitude practice to remind me. Every day that I open my eyes I’m like, “YES!! Amen and thank you! I get another day to fuck around!!”
General examples of medical exemptions
I’m opposed to medical tyranny.
The only work-around that I can support, at this point, is a fake vax card.
STEVE SMITH HALP.
Good luck, wish I could help.
Are you fundraising?
Not really, ron, but thank you.
If you’re so inclined, find some cause that’s near and dear to your heart and reach out to them or send a few samoleans. (Including Glibs Foundation!!)
That’s plenty for me.
Never fear, Maureen Callahan – not one to let her crown as stupidest writer at the NY Post be taken away – is here to remind us that questioning Science in a book you haven’t read is a conspiracy theory.
I don’t agree with him, but RFK Jr has been consistent in his beliefs all along. Unlike those deplatforming him only when he applied his previous views to covid.
They’ve loved him when he’s tried to make it harder for folks in the Hudson River watershed to develop economically, but now they hate him.
Ozy, you’re doing great work.
I’d like to pass this around. Could you post a link to this post on your blog? I’d much rather share that than a link to Glibs. A) it links to you, and b) some of places I plan to share this won’t appreciate some of our humor.
Thanks Ozy!
https://www.theabjectlesson.com/2021/08/21/dod-covid-vax-mandate-info-part-1-21-aug-2021/
Thanks!
RE: the religious exemption. I’m almost done with the one I’m writing. It is not the same as the other ones, and it doesn’t target the same response from HR. The fact is that they’re going to accept or reject no matter what you submit in your request. My document is an attempt to highlight a somewhat comprehensive list of the religious reasons (including those based in conscience and in rationality) for opposition to the mandate in a way that can be used in part or in whole by the unvaxxed.
It’s detailed enough (approaching 70 pages right now) that no HR department is ever going to read it in whole. However, they’re required to consider it and do fact based analysis on it before accepting or rejecting your request. IMO, it won’t get you much closer to an exemption than the 1-2 pagers, but it could shortcut any attempts by the employer to wear you down with requests for more information. Alterntatively, there’s an opportunity to just cut out the summary, make a few tweaks, and submit a 6 pager using my document. However, given that my primary goal is to provide support to the unvaxxed, the long form religious exemption request/position paper has seemed the right move. I don’t know whether it’ll be helpful or not, but I’ve felt compelled to do it.
Link to latest partial draft.
Trashy – would you be alright with me sending your religious exemption document to the dozens (maybe over a hundred?) of military folks who are reaching out to me?
I just scanned through it and it’s very, very good, IMO. Nice work.
BTW, I also have a pretty well done exemption template for (((THEM))) that analyzes some rabbinnical teachings. There is obviously some overlap with biblical injunctions, but I could put that on the forum if (((others))) are interested.
Yessir, please do. I’m finishing up the last substantive section right now (and then i’m taking the kiddo to the playground), but I should have a completed document by tonight. I’ll send you the updated version via email.
Thanks, Ozy.
Man, things are really speeding up. Doesn’t 2019 seem like a lifetime ago?
I’m hearing rumblings that i won’t be allowed at customer sites without the mark. Between this and travel I’m starting to get a little nervous.
I know a guy, who can get things…
I’m hearing rumblings that i won’t be allowed at customer sites without the mark.
I would expect any company that mandates it for employees to mandate it for contractors who come on-site. That’s what my company has done. Even we drew the line at mandating it for contractors who don’t come on site – I asked if this meant I was going to have to ask all my law firms to provide proof of vaccination, and if so did this mean I would have to bar anyone who wasn’t vaccinated from working on our cases.
The ensuing silence was uncomfortable, I would say.
Thanks for posting this, Ozy, as well as for doing battle in court and on the public arena.
Six months ago this was labeled a conspiracy theory.
Love the passer-by just walking along… nothing to see here….
First, do no harm.
The internet is saying that the Australian Gov. has hired a private security firm named Predator Security for these anti Vax efforts. Predator calls themselves an elite counter terrorism insurrection force. There are pics up of Auzzie police uniforms with Predator badges on them.
The shit will truly hit if a mercenary unit does a Boston Massacre on protestors.
Link?
You know that the big city mayors and the White House are wishing they can pull this shit. They’ve managed to get away with a lot of stuff but if they went this route, they know that things could turn ugly really fast especially with that pesky 2nd Amendment.
That’s difficult to watch. It’s well past time the Aussies dropped the peaceful part from their protests and started making these storm troopers scared to leave their homes.
I don’t like violence but you are right that unless this behavior is met by force, shit will get worse and the Australian government will become more embolden to screw their citizens over.
A long sciency paper comparing covid to the vax risks.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X
One of the authors is Panayiotis Vlachoyiannopoulos.
Now THAT is a name.
Some ladies of The View (spits over shoulder) yanked off the air for having a positive COVID test.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/view-sent-chaos-after-two-hosts-test-positive-covid-mid-show-kamala-interview-upended
OFFS!
First thought is..it’s scripted. We can’t ask those ladies for proof nor do they have to show it.
However, you know your guest(s) and if the WH didn’t vet prior and it also took til midshow to pop positive…I am calling it a setup.
Funny part though
“Just before the segment featuring Navarro and Hostin being led offstage, the panel opened the show complaining about the unvaccinated, with a chyron which read, “Experts: vaccinated not as likely to spread COVID.””
Was Megan McCain keeping the show afloat?
If she could keep her wang-warmer shut about politics or her career parasite father for 15 minutes, she could really take the wrinkles out of my love-sausage.
Kinda slim, but she has potential bingo-wings. I could make it work.
So, Norm was on the View once.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=92&v=Z3PP_SWHUQQ&feature=emb_title
And a “reverse” lawsuit in Montana to prohibit the state’s prohibition of employer vax mandates!
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/573701-lawsuit-challenges-montana-ban-on-employer-vaccine-mandates
Some people simply love the taste of boot leather.
The Roperites completely miss the logical and completely foreseeable conclusion that if government can mandate you to take a vaccine, they can also mandate that you are prohibited from taking a vaccine and the only difference is whim not principle. Team uber alles.
I guess they won’t t be driving Volvos, then.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/09/23/Sweden-Volvo-leather-free-cars-sustainable-quality-materials/4781632408578/
I had an ’84 Volvo 240 “brick” turbo. G_d I miss that car. Quirky with that shitty bosch mechanical fuel-injection, but as simple to work on as a tractor. Throw some Blizzak snowies on it in winter, and it was a beast. I bought it from ex Mrs Tres’s best friend. I sure do miss her.
(the friend, not the ex)
I’ve had a bunch of Volvos. No better normal car ever made than the 240s. Mine with snow tires could go places even pickups feared to venture.
“I know, I’m the proverbial one-trick pony..”
I was at a “theatrical presentation” in Juarez, MX once. The headlining act was a woman with a pony that only knew 1 trick.
I believe I have seen that one, as well.
Superbly scripted and acted, I might add.
“I laughed, I cried.”
Author! Author!
A chart of my current concerns.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/899/172/original/6f23e7daaa4c559a.jpg
Eeeeeyup!
Too much grey area for my tastes.
Think of it like a 2’x3′ world map: if Hawai’i wasn’t scaled to an impossibly large size (rather than its true scale) it wouldn’t be visible on the world map at all.
Same with that pie chart.
yep
While I agree robustly, I think we stop calling them “constitutional rights” and start calling them “human rights”
When you say constitutional rights all leftists see is something gifted us by government, which they can then also take away.
Yeah, I’ve tried to wean myself off of that verbiage. Now I just call them “my rights.”
Because FYTW – I figure that works both ways, so I now have that as my opening argument in these kinds of debates.
A huge part of the population firmly believes that the vaccinated cannot spread the virus. That’s a big problem.
Three jeers for the anti-vax Red Sox
Goodwin either doesn’t understand or won’t admit is that the consequences of his decisions don’t only affect his body and his family. They affect all of us. They affect his f**king city.
You know who else railed on and on about personal decisions having a broader negative societal impact?
It’s such a lie. So many of the hardcore vaxxers are just complete ignoramuses.
“TEH SCIENCE” continues to coalesce toward the fact that (a) vaccinated are just as infectious as unvaccinated; (b) natural immunity is way, way better than vaxxed immunity.
Notwithstanding these inconvenient pieces of reality, the loudmouthed shnooks continue to scream for the yoke and the whip.
Ghouls, the lot of them. There are so many avenues for compromise and they reject every single one. They wish to dominate the wrongthinkers, and couldn’t care a whit about stopping the actual pandemic and the misery associated with it.
They affect all of us.
Isn’t his potential to spread the virus limited to the other Unclean? It doesn’t affect the vaxxed Elect, does it?
Unless the vax doesn’t work, and the Elect can still catch it (and spread it). If that’s the case, his decision really does only affect him, because he poses no different risk to anyone else than a member of the Elect.
And if you want to argue the relative risk of being infectious with or without the vax, well, two thoughts:
(1) Good luck finding data on that.
(2) That sounds like an awfully slim reed for a full-throated moral condemnation.
Tokyo medical society recommends ivermectin and hospital admissions drop by 75% in a month. Guy who posts that fact on Twitter has account suspended.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/869/413/original/11c2478188ef352e.png
Here’s a letter about it from the AAPA to the AMA. Also has some really good points about ivermectin. I had not really heard of the AAPA before, but apparently the group was established in 1943. One of the rare libertarianish medical groups:
And their letter to the AMA
https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-to-ama-re-ivermectin-and-covid/
I’m thinking there’s a class action suit against the big pharmacy chains that are refusing to honor prescriptions for ivermectin. Pharmacists can refuse to dispense a drug, but when doing so they have to meet the “standard of care”, meaning, they have to point to a solid clinical basis for doing so based on adverse side effects (typically, bad interactions with other drugs the patient is on). For prescribed ivermectin, I don’t think they can meet that burden. None of the stories of people who have had problems with it were about prescribed ivermectin.
Thanks for linking that.
The war on therapeutics is one of the most evil things I’ve seen in 68 trips around the sun. Mass murder is what it is, not on the scale of Pol Pot or Chairman Mao, but absolutely murder of who knows how many. They know exactly what they are doing . The perpetrators will be held into account, if not in this life then perhaps in the next.
Before this is over we’ll be way past Pol Pot.
Agreed. Especially in the US. India has been trying different therapeutics. Ivermectin is correlated with a reduction in hospitalizations and death in India. One fact checker. has pointed correctly that correlation is not causation. And then went on to say that is it false that the drop wasn’t caused by using ivermectin which is a stolen base in and of itself. Regardless that doesn’t mean that you don’t try this and other therapeutics. It is completely non-sensical.
You can wait it out and wind up on a ventilator in the ICU, or try any of the available therapies which at worst will do no harm. Fuck the assholes for denying people the option.
???
I for one, would be happy to see the assholes hang by the neck until they are dead, dead, dead. I’m not being hyperbolic, that’s what I want.
As much as I don’t like “fact check” sites, this one says otherwise:
https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9M48JR-1
Sometimes I worry that we are becoming our own serious echo chamber. I don’t know if anyone else feels that way, but it’s just a feeling.
I miss Heroic Mulatto’s hardline open borders stance, for example. I didn’t always gree with him, but we hardly ever hear from him anymore and I want to know what he has to counter the closed borders sentiment that seems to be prevailing.
I’m completely black-pilled on things, but I think we should caution ourselves about stuff from social media.
Dammit I didn’t mean to post that yet. Sorry if it comes across wrong, I usually try to reread these things before I post.
From the fact check:
OK, is that the standard by which we judge <> now? The official government thumbs up?
the was supposed to say ANYTHING inside it.
I dunno. ‘Member when an entire carrier got taken out of service ’cause of coof?
Speaking of, do they still hotrack in triple-decker bunks? If so there’s no way the entire ship wouldn’t have caught it if it were as contagious as hyped.
(I haven’t been on a CV since I was in the Boy Scouts — the enlisted berths were these vinyl hammock things suspended three deep from chains)
I seem to remember a carrier being taken out of service because of a hysterical overreaction to the ‘Vid by incompetent politicized officers.
If you can’t run a carrier with a significant percentage of your crew in sick bay, you’re not going to be able to run a carrier that’s getting shot at in a real naval engagement.
I seem to remember a carrier being taken out of service because of a hysterical overreaction to the ‘Vid by incompetent politicized officers.
That’s what I remember to.
In Klaus Schwab’s “The Great Reset”, he says the carrier was “stranded” due to Lil Rona.
The big decks don’t do much hot-racking, IME, but the subs still do some of that.
I was on an LHD class and while enlisted berthing was no picnic, it wasn’t anywhere near what Marines typically endured on older troop ships.
No I don’t remember any carrier being “out of commission” from the Coof. Like RC – I do remember what looked like some staged propaganda/psyops over some pants-pissing about Covid.
The flu being passed around berthing is a much bigger threat than Cvid-19 statistically speaking. Covid-19 seems to target those with elevated A1c and the military population is pretty good in that regard (Chief’s Mess excepted) as compared to the general populace.
All this is why I was glad to be a 5953, one of the few MOSes in the Corps which never goes on ships.
The Roosevelt was turned around and quarantined at Guam a year ago because of an “outbreak.”
For any golfers out there: Amazing shot at the Ryder Cup.
Holy shit.
I’ve been in spots like that many times, such is my skill level. Don’t recall getting out of them, though.
That course was obviously designed by someone who hates golfers.
I approve.
Thanks Ozzy.