Wednesday Afternoon SugarLinks – Oh, Mandy

by | Sep 29, 2021 | Daily Links | 368 comments

Glibertarian cover girl Mandy Marcotte has got the answer!

It’s time to start firing unvaccinated people: Trump fans are overdue for a lesson in consequences

There’s a lot of reasons conservatives cite for this refusal to vaccinate, though ultimately it all boils down to a desire to “own the liberals.” But a lot of this pettiness is intertwined with a right-wing bravado. To be blunt, white privilege has long shielded many conservatives from the concept of facing consequences for their actions. We see this in a lot of obnoxious right-wing behavior lately, from tantrums over COVID-19 mitigation measures in public places to the attempted insurrection on January 6. Who can forget how many of the arrested Trump supporters expressed genuine shock that they might actually face a legal consequence for participating in a violent effort to overthrow democracy? This lack of familiarity with consequences is likely why there are so many holdouts, even in the face of vaccine mandates. Bluntly put, a lot of them probably don’t think that leaders are serious about these threats to fire them, and won’t believe it until it happens. As with the Capitol rioters, there’s a persistent disbelief on the right that they will ever face real consequences for their bad actions.

Marcotte, pictured here with her roots showing

This right-wing overconfidence is why sites like HermainCainAward and SorryAntiVaxxer have such popular followings. Watching people pay with their lives after displaying such certainty their anti-social behavior will never result in a consequence may not be the most righteous use of people’s time, but is understandable when the rest of us are suffering because of Trumpist hubris. The problem with highlighting COVID-19 deaths to scare the Trumpers straight, however, is that they can always tell themselves that they’re not going to be the ones who die since 98.4% of people in the U.S. do survive.

And, as always, you can support Mandy’s important work over at her OnlyFans page.


Did “Cancel Culture” Just Jump the Shark?

A walk with a dog in a New York park results in a viral video clip, allegations of racist behavior by a white woman, and the woman getting publicly pilloried and sacked from her job.

Again.

This time, it happened at a dog park in the Williamsburg neighborhood of Brooklyn. In the tweet accompanying the 27-second video, author Frederick Joseph claims that he started filming after the woman threatened to call the police, having mistaken him for the owner of a loudly barking dog—and after the woman allegedly told Joseph and his fiancée to “stay in your hood.” Once Joseph starts filming, the woman—later identified as Emma Sarley—acts confused and tries to claim that Joseph is unceremoniously telling her to leave the park. The snippet ends with a random onlooker, who as of this writing has not been identified or asked for comment, confirming Joseph’s claim that Sarley did indeed say, “Stay in your hood.”

Obviously, there are shades here of last year’s “Cooper vs Cooper” saga, but with a twist: Joseph is a New York Times bestselling author with a Twitter following of 115.9k and an Instagram following of 168k; and, unlike Christian Cooper, he made an active effort to get the woman fired.

After Joseph posted as much identifying information as he had on Sarley on both platforms— specifically, the location of the altercation and the name of her dog—one of his Instagram followers found her Instagram and LinkedIn profiles and sent him screenshots. Joseph then posted the screenshots to Twitter, tagging her employer Bevy and the co-founder and CEO of Bevy, Derek Andersen. Then, Andersen announced that Sarley has been terminated.

Go into the bathroom and stand in front of your mirror. Turn the light off and say, “There’s no such thing as cancel culture. There’s no such thing as cancel culture. There’s no such thing as cancel culture.


Dear Care and Feeding: I Think My Son’s Crush Is From an Anti-Vax Family. Should I Drive Them Apart?

Dear Care and Feeding,

How can we navigate teen dating in the time of COVID? Our family has been very diligent with proper precautions, and we’re all vaccinated. Unfortunately, we live in a state that has banned school mask mandates and other mitigation measures. We also live in a particularly red ZIP code, surrounded by anti-vaxxers. My son “James” is in high school and really likes a girl named “Kayla.” He’d like to take her to a dance in a few weeks. We think Kayla’s family may be conservative Christians, a group with one of the lowest vaccination rates. James doesn’t know whether Kayla is vaccinated, and he’s nervous to ask because he doesn’t want to cause a rift. We’ve told him to ask her in a low-key way, but if we find out she’s not vaxxed, what are we to do with that information? Tell him to break it off? That he has to ask a potential date her vaccination status up front? That’s easy to do for adults, but a kid doesn’t really make their own vaccination decisions. We don’t want to make his adolescence even more weird and difficult than it already has been, but we’ve worked so hard to keep our family safe. We also don’t want to create an impression that we’re policing his relationships based on religion, if that turns out to be a factor. What is fair to do in this situation?

Answer: If Kayla isn’t vaccinated, if she doesn’t wear a mask at school or take other COVID precautions, I know you probably won’t feel good about James going to the dance with her. Maybe you’d even be tempted to put your foot down and say they shouldn’t hang out alone. But I will point out that that’s a very hard line to draw, and all but impossible to enforce. I do think it’s fine for James to ask Kayla if she’s vaccinated—it has nothing to do with policing anyone’s religion, because it’d be good info for him to have regardless of her family’s beliefs. It’s her right not to answer, of course, but if she gets upset with him for asking, that might be a warning sign he should note before going out with her, no?

1. Replace “anti-vaxx” with “Jew” and see how it reads.

2. The last sentence there is nice, isn’t it? “If she has nothing to hide then she has nothing fear.”

Oh, wait, before you go, let me pluck the ripest plum from the comments for you:

MessyONE

Yeah….no. In fact in the LW’s place, I would seriously consider moving. Vaccines are never 100% – and they never have been.

This is a teaching moment for the son. You don’t get to attend a super spreader event during a pandemic. It doesn’t matter if it’s not “cool” to skip the dance, and it doesn’t matter if the girl wants to go. If she’s worth dating, she won’t care about one dance.

I would seriously consider moving. There you have it, folx.


 

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368 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    Worst redhead ever?

    • Gender Traitor

      Worse than me??

      • Count Potato

        Compared to Mandy, your face should be on money.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        A plain face like that, she’s gotta do something.

        GT, my fave version of Shaun: https://beargarden.co.uk/products/shaun-the-sheep-by-steiff-19cm (from A Close Shave? I like how he had to wear a sweater made of his own wool. And I didn’t get the Shaun / Shorn pun until embarrassingly late)

      • Gender Traitor

        SQUEEEE!!!

        “Out of stock.”

        Now I haz a sad. ☹️

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        You would pay £129 for it? I mean, Steiff, but…

        Have also seen him in kids’ suitcase form for much less, but with natural ‘fro.

    • MikeS

      Very possibly, yes. Still…

  2. Rebel Scum

    As with the Capitol rioters, there’s a persistent disbelief on the right that they will ever face real consequences for their bad actions.

    You mean the people that have been held for months without bail for meandering around the capitol?

    • The Other Kevin

      No, the people online who fail to condemn them hard enough.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Violent effort to overthrow democracy! We practically almost had the military on our side to replace….wait…what is that…oh, the military was working with Pelosi? Uh…TRUMPIST!

      • Rat on a train

        They were one woman short of overthrowing democracy. Fortunately a heroic officer ended that threat.

      • Rebel Scum

        We were saved by the courage and bravery of the Milley-tary.

    • Plisade

      *Real* consequences for my not wanting to get vaxxed are either suffering from the vid or NOT suffering from side effects. The consequences she’s talking about are manufactured by her gods.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      After watching the riots all summer, seeing Dem politicians raising money for their bail, and then seeing all charges dropped, why shouldn’t they think they can riot with impunity?

      • DEG

        They aren’t Democrats.

  3. Animal

    I would seriously consider moving.

    Yes, please do. Self-righteous assholes like you are always messing up nice neighborhoods.

  4. db
  5. Tundra

    And, as always, you can support Mandy’s important work over at her OnlyFans page.

    Ok, that’s gold.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I was half-heartedly disappointed yet refreshed by what it went to.

  6. Rat on a train

    Who can forget how many of the arrested Trump supporters expressed genuine shock that they might actually face a legal consequence for participating in a peaceful protest when people participating in burning, looting and murdering walked free.

  7. The Other Kevin

    “To be blunt, white privilege has long shielded many conservatives from the concept of facing consequences for their actions.”

    So, just let COVID kill them off. There are such things as natural consequences.

    “98.4% of people in the U.S. do survive.”

    Oh.

    • Count Potato

      Because all the un-vaccinated are white conservatives?

      • Ownbestenemy

        It is the only thing in their mind that makes sense on why they are not. A president that promoted its development and distribution for a year surely wanted his followers to not take it. See. Makes sense.

      • The Other Kevin

        The same former president who, about 2 weeks ago, told people they should get vaccinated. Versus a current president who at one time said “I’d never take the vaccine.”

      • Ted S.

        As I’ve mentioned, I’ve heard much the same thing on some of the international broadcasters I listen to. If the icky white working class people aren’t getting the vaccine, it’s because they’re evil. If minority groups the media likes aren’t getting it, it’s because of “vaccine equity”.

      • Gadfly

        It is the only thing in their mind that makes sense on why they are not.

        Which is rather funny, given the history of forced vaccination in the US:

        Ultimately, compulsory vaccination was carried out in many communities in a way that was discriminatory against African Americans and immigrant groups. There were examples of compulsory vaccination being carried out with force in immigrant tenement districts in cities like Chicago, New York and Boston. Local governments created “virus squads,” teams of police and vaccinators that cordoned off city blocks, entered neighborhoods in the middle of the night, and went door to door, checking people to see if they had vaccination scars proving they had recently been vaccinated. Police tore infected children from their mothers’ arms and took them to isolation hospitals called “pesthouses.”

        The above quote refers to measures taken c. 1900 to combat smallpox.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        A similar primary-source NYT article was recently posted here.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Oh, you and your Alex Jonesesque myths. Everyone knows black people love doctors and trust the medical professions.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “The Lord loves a working man. Don’t trust whitey. See a doctor and get rid of it.”

      • tripacer

        Shit from Shineola

      • TARDis

        Un-vaccinated black people are the new white people of black people now?

        /Asians haz sadz.

    • kbolino

      The problem of aggregate statistics. If you’re under 65 years of age and under 350 pounds, it’s 99.9%.

      • Nephilium

        So… if I’m reading this right. We’re all gonna die?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Whoopee!

      • Gender Traitor

        +1 Fish

      • Ghostpatzer

        What a country!

      • Fourscore

        But, but my doctor said I would live to a ripe old age.

      • Ownbestenemy

        They have created a perfect bubble for it because every counter is “you want people to die!” or “you don’t care about those people!” And when you try to expand and explain they shutdown because it might pop that bubble and then they will be exposed to the lingering effects of absolutely losing their minds.

      • Ted S.

        They want all the people they deemed not to be essential workers to die.

    • The Other Kevin

      In the course of that article all she does is prove she’s a vindictive asshole who wants people who don’t agree with her politics to suffer.

      • Ownbestenemy

        When the POTUS said it outloud, it gave a wide berth to all the crazies to say what they really want..death to those who oppose their ideology.

      • EvilSheldon

        What would we ever do, without Mandy to remind us that progressives are awful people, spreading a miasma of misery over everyone around them…

      • Ted S.

        She clearly wants your wife to die.

      • The Other Kevin

        My wife votes Republican. So yes.

  8. Rebel Scum

    If she’s worth dating, she won’t care about one dance.

    If he is worth dating he won’t care about the fake vax situation.

  9. Tres Cool

    Her roots are blacker than Kunta Kinte’s.

    Too much ?
    Too soon ?

    • Count Potato

      Alex Haley has been dead for 30 years.

      • MikeS

        Yep. Too soon.

  10. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “Sarley finally posted a statement yesterday, acknowledging that she could have handled the situation better but denying any racial overtones to her comment.”

    Sorry Sarley, ya done fucked up. Never ever ever give these people even an inch, it’s taken as an admission of guilt.

  11. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Well the 1/6 rioters did go in without masks to protect their identity and they took selfies. Not exactly people who thought they were doing something wrong.

    • Rat on a train

      They were going to overthrow the government by infecting it with covid?

      • juris imprudent

        Given the geriatic status of Congress (leadership in particular) you can almost buy that.

  12. Sensei

    Did “Cancel Culture” Just Jump the Shark?

    Why in the world would you use the expression “hood” with a stranger?

    • rhywun

      At least have the common sense to ask them if they are an “anti-racist” activist first.

      Even the NY Post had the audacity to write a similar self-reflective screed on this – after posting at least two click-bait “look at the racist!” articles – the kind that are a regular feature of their front page – when it happened.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      It was a pretty bad choice of words, and I’m guessing that she did mean it in a racial way. But I can’t read her mind and I don’t like Twitter mobs.

  13. kbolino

    If this world had real consequences, Amanda Marcotte would either be dead or be the least desirable wife wife of a 57-year-old Islamic fundamentalist.

    • Count Potato

      That’s very unfair to either a 57-year-old Islamic fundamentalist or everyone in hell.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Urr, hello hooray. Never could understand Paul Weller.

  14. DEG

    There’s a lot of reasons conservatives cite for this refusal to vaccinate, though ultimately it all boils down to a desire to “own the liberals.”

    Go fuck yourself.

    Our family has been very diligent with proper precautions, and we’re all vaccinated. Unfortunately, we live in a state that has banned school mask mandates and other mitigation measures. We also live in a particularly red ZIP code, surrounded by anti-vaxxers.

    Go fuck yourself.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      The borders are open*…

      *for now?

    • db

      Seriously. And when you’re done, list your house for sale and move somewhere “blue.”

    • Sensei

      Our family has been very diligent with proper precautions, and we’re all vaccinated. Unfortunately, we live in a state that has banned school mask mandates and other mitigation measures. We also live in a particularly red ZIP code, surrounded by anti-vaxxers.

      And why, pray tell, did you decide to move to this area instead of some enlightened east coast enclave like NYC? In NYC the great unvaccinated can’t even eat in a restaurant. It would seem to be your kind of place.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Not wanting a foreign substance injected into your body against your will is owning the libs? Well I’ll be…

      • Zwak, jack off, all trades

        The whole “owning the libs” thing has gotta be the strangest and lamest excuse.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Eh, no point in getting vexed over a quite possibly fictional letter.

      (db, you are the audiophile, aren’t you? In high school did you avoid the convenience store blasting baroque music solely because the speakers were crappy? 😉

      • db

        I’m not an audiophile like some of the other folks on here, but I appreciate good audio systems. And yes, the speakers in our local convenience stores caused the music to be pretty much unidentifiable as Baroque.

      • db

        Thanks! I’m not familiar with the film that’s the source of the clip.

    • kbolino

      It’s amazing how the left can mind-read the right with perfect accuracy and moreover that they always discover the same alleged thought process. “Ayn Rand was a terrible writer” and yet they themselves cannot imagine a villain motivated by any desire other than visceral hate.

      • juris imprudent

        The reality is they have zero capability to actually enter into any thought process outside their own. Mostly because they are eating their own shit convinced it tastes wonderful.

  15. B.P.

    “Who can forget how many of the arrested Trump supporters expressed genuine shock that they might actually face a legal consequence for participating in a violent effort to overthrow democracy?”

    Assertions without evidence aside, maybe some of these Trump supporters witnessed half a year of political violence going unpunished or even being rewarded, and mistakenly assumed that their behavior would go unpunished. Tell me again who it is that’s “shielded from the concept of facing consequences for their actions,” fuckhead.

    • Gadfly

      ^This^. The various autonomous zones were literally insurrection, and how were they treated?

  16. DEG

    Executive Council vote on vaccine contracts postponed

    Gov. Chris Sununu announced the postponement of Wednesday’s Executive Council meeting at Saint Anselm College after protesters disrupted the proceedings.

    “I will not put members of the Executive Council or State Agencies in harms way,” the governor said in a statement. “State Police had to escort state employees to their cars after unacceptable, unruly behavior. This meeting is being postponed until our state employees can go before the Council in a safe and orderly manner. The items on today’s agenda will be brought up at a later date.”

    One protester in the room said they would “not let them vote” on Department of Health and Human Services contracts to promote the COVID-19 vaccine.

    Context: There are two Federal grants related to having states push the Lil Rona vaccine. In NH, before the state government can do anything with it, the Executive Council and a legislative committee have to have to vote yes on taking the money. Both have so far tabled the contracts.

    Sununu has decided he wants the money and he wants the state government to push the vaccine. He’s been pushing the Executive Council to meet and vote yes on the contracts.

    Part of the contracts are provisions that the state must comply and assist in enforcing and Lil Rona directives/orders/mandates/what-have-you from the Feds.

    Chatter on the Reopen NH channels is mixed about the protests. Some folks think that, and this is probably based on some inside knowledge knowing who it is, if the Council would have voted, the contracts would be killed. Some folks think we need to be more confrontation. Some others think more confrontation is OK, but someone should have shut down the dude screaming about adrenochrome.

    • Ted S.

      Mama don’t take my adrenochrome away.

  17. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    Welp, between this and Joemala, I’m thoroughly depressed about the state of the world.

    Glad my new fleecy slippers were delivered today. At least I got that going for me.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I made 7-layer bean dip only for it to mock me in the fridge until the wife comes home. Even mashed up fresh beans for it. *stares at fridge, back to window, back to fridge* I wonder if I can sneak a bite and then relayer it…

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Carve out a little, shove cilantro (salsa?) in the hole.

      • Tulip

        Are you a Labrador?

    • Count Potato

      #metoo

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      They’ll need that 40% (?) increase in staff.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Or the gun store.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        Huh. Maybe you’re onto something there.

    • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

      Or Costco, like I did on Monday.

      My God.

    • Pope Jimbo

      $600?

      Uffda, by December that will include everyone filling up their gas tanks.

      I hope that they also make it very clear that there are some transactions that include forbidden items or wrong thinking companies that should never be done no matter what the amount.

  18. wdalasio

    So far, the victims of cancel culture (what seems like the running theme in the stories here) seem to have been remarkably gracious. The thing I wonder about is what happens when they cancel the wrong person? Sooner or later, somebody is going to have their life ruined and decide that they might as well make a few widows and orphans in the process.

    I’m not saying I approve. But, it seems inevitable to me. That’s where we screwed up doing away with dueling. It would have made the cancel culture sociopaths far less likely. But, at least it would give them a fighting chance to deal with the aggrieved.

  19. Count Potato

    “Sensors on a person’s smartphone can be used to determine if they’re high with uncanny precision, according to a new study out of Rutgers University

    Researchers at the school’s Institute for Health, Health Care Policy and Aging Research found that an algorithm that combined sensors tracking movements and GPS location with data on the time of day and day of the week had a 90 percent accuracy rate in determining if someone was stoned.

    The algorithm could help law enforcement and health professionals more accurately predict if an individual is currently experiencing ‘cannabis intoxication,’ according to a release.

    We might be able to detect when a person might be experiencing cannabis intoxication and deliver a brief intervention when and where it might have the most impact to reduce cannabis-related harm,’ said co-author Tammy Chung, director of the Institute’s Center for Population Behavioral Health in the statement.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10042107/Smartphone-sensors-used-detect-high-marijuana-90-percent-accuracy.html

    What could possibly go wrong?

      • Sensei

        Never mind N=57.

    • Nephilium

      Taco Bell hardest hit.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Jack pops out of his box…hey I created ads specifically for a certain subset of society! TB can go to hell!

      • Gadfly

        Given that GPS tracking was listed as one of the sensors used to predict intoxication, I’m guessing part of the algorithm was “if attacobell == true and (time > 2200 or time < 1000) then ishigh = true".

    • Ghostpatzer

      “Tammy Chung”. Who cares, what does Tommy Chong think?

      • Zwak, jack off, all trades

        Did anyone ask Connie Chung?

      • MikeS

        Ted will be along shortly to give us some Wang Chung tonight.

    • Gender Traitor

      to determine if they’re high with uncanny precision

      The couple of times in my life I got high, it wrought havoc with my precision.

      • Tres Cool

        The last time I got high, I awoke around 2 am thinking Shaquille O’Neal was in my kitchen baking cookies. I could smell the cookies and I was starved. I went to the kitchen, threw the lights on and- no Shaquille and no cookies. I was majorly bummed.

    • kbolino

      90 percent accuracy rate

      Never trust any statistical analysis of a binary test that doesn’t report both the type I and type II error rates.

      Also, 90% is not good enough to ruin someone’s life over (whether you should do it even at 100% being a separate question).

    • Tres Cool

      “We might be able to detect when a person might be experiencing cannabis intoxication and deliver a brief intervention when and where it might have the most impact”

      Cause ruining a fucked-up persons night is always pure kindness. Also, never argue with drunks.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Liz of Fauxhicans speaks through forked tongue.

    “That it was actually an amazing undertaking. It was done under chaotic circumstances. Because the government had collapsed. Because the army had melted away, the Afghan Army, and that, even in the midst of all of that, our military was able to get about 124,000 people out. They left no American-owned equipment behind. They managed to execute that. And, yes, it was at risk. We lost a young woman from Massachusetts. I’m working now on trying to get the Congressional Medal of Honor for the people who we lost right at the end. But we knew it was a risky undertaking and the military performed. We should be proud of President Biden and proud of our military.”

    Except for the 10s of billions in equipment that we paid for, you slimy, semantic snake,

    • wdalasio

      They know they have a captive media. So, they’ll say things that everybody knows to be utter BS, knowing that they’ll never be challenged about it.

    • db

      I’m sure there’s a bill of sale, granting title to all that stuff to the Afghan government that would make this technically correct.

      Technically correct like the Soviet general was technically correct that no Soviet soldiers remained in Afghanistan behind him (a fair sized group indeed had been abandoned behind him, but they were all either killed or forced to convert to Islam and renounce their Soviet status to save their lives).

    • Pope Jimbo

      Medal of Honor? What the everloving fuck?

      The MOH should be reserved for the real badasses who truly went above and beyond. Standing around and getting blown up sucks and shouldn’t be disparaged, but MOH?

      When I was in, the base newspaper always ran some story about a MOH winner and it was a) posthumous most of the time and b) listed off the insane wounds they suffered as they ran around killing the enemy.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That would really put the MOH into a category of a bullshit medal if it goes through. A soldier who goes back and forth under fire saving as many as they can, knowing they will most likely die from all their wounds…and people doing gate guard duty will get the same honor? Why not other persons on bases throughout the war?

      • Gadfly

        This. Although it should be noted that when the MOH was first introduced it was awarded for many less than super heroic acts, but that was in large part due to the fact that there weren’t any inferior medals. Today it should be reserved (as it has been for over a century) for truly heroic acts. They already give bronze stars out like candy, though, so debasing the awards has already been well under way.

      • Rat on a train

        Yep. Just getting killed isn’t MOH criteria.

      • Animal

        I got to shake Roy Benavidez’s hand once. Now there’s a guy that deserved the Medal.

      • db

        Amazingly valorous acts.

      • Rat on a train

        “valor” is the key word

      • Tundra

        I was lucky enough when I was a kid to have lunch with Rick Pittman.

        Total badass and a really nice guy. Asked me about hockey, LOL.

    • Tres Cool

      “It wasnt our equipment. We just gifted it to them.”

  21. Pope Jimbo

    We think Kayla’s family may be conservative Christians, a group with one of the lowest vaccination rates

    You know what other group has the lowest vaccination rates? Not only will your son catch the Rona, but you will have half breed grand kids.

    Why do I think that the mom would be histrionic if she heard anyone make some less than complimentary generalization about our black neighbors and friends?

    • Fourscore

      “You know what other group has the lowest vaccination rates?”

      Raises hand quickly. GLIBRTARIANS!

      • Ownbestenemy

        I bet an honest assessment of the site would put us along the national average of 70/30.

      • The Other Kevin

        I would agree. A lot of us got a shot for work or due to age or medical risk. But the number of us supporting mandates is a different story.

      • kinnath

        The wife and I were early adopters. Both vaccinated last April.

        And I am vehemently opposed to the mandates.

        No one under 40 should be taking these vaccines unless they have some serious comorbidity to deal with.

      • Sensei

        +1

      • whiz

        Ditto.

      • Zwak, jack off, all trades

        This. And it cuts through to my liberal family members. No one likes the mandate who isn’t a die-hard Covidiot.

      • Tulip

        Yep. I am vaccinated.

      • TARDis

        That’s okay. Come sit with me here on the bench of shame.
        *pats bench*

      • Pope Jimbo

        That is only because most of us just chug the vaccine when we hear the word shot. The nurse never gets a chance to jab it in our arms.

        Honestly I got the vaccine because a) it got my wife off my back, b) we had hoped to visit Japan this winter and c) I might be edging closer to the age bracket associated with higher risk from the Rona than I like to admit.

      • Tundra

        Which one did you choose? Any reactions?

      • Tulip

        I didn’t have a choice – Kaiser – I got Pfizer-Biontech.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That is what sets us apart from the world apparently with pockets here and there. Get it for reasons of your own or don’t. It really is that simple but we are a species that almost made it past our primal stages apparently of controlling each other.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Hey, Hispanics have the second-lowest vaccination rates. What’s so bad about half-breed Hispanics? /half-breed Hispanic

      • Tres Cool

        Órale vato !

      • R.J.

        I was so pissed reading that vile tripe that I had to tune in and say: That anti-vaxxers are young people, blacks and hispanics. Aren’t these the groups Libs say they own? Screw that lady. Also this:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xVS6aUWAWDg&feature=emb_title

      • rhywun

        “I will never take ‘Trump’s vaccine’.”

        /every lefty talking head before November 3, 2020

      • Pope Jimbo

        half-breed hispanics are too lazy to hold the black man down.

        They don’t understand that being a racist cracker is a full time job. Sure there are tons of times that we’d love to sit on the couch and relax, but we know that there is a black guy out there using a dog park that needs to be discriminated against.

      • Ghostpatzer

        half-breed hispanics are too lazy

        Can confirm. My laziness was inherited from my Anglo birth father from all accounts.

  22. Ownbestenemy

    So this is new.

    Both my 16 year old teenages got “Pandemic EBT” cards. Not us, my kids. State reasoning? Because kids might still be at home and cannot get the ‘free’ food at schools during the forced closures are given cards to use at the store.

    Few things….actually one….what in the everloving fuck is the government sending this to my kids?

    • db

      The government needs to do all it can to encourage and support children of anti-vaxxers to become independent (on their evil parents).

    • Pope Jimbo

      Because everyone knows that you rotten parents would steal the EBT card and use it to buy crack. You can’t be trusted so they have to get it directly in the hands of those poor kids.

      OK, only a tiny fraction of kids have parents that bad, but we can’t single that one kid out in each district because they would be mortified when the other kids found out.

      • Ownbestenemy

        They both get $136 a month. We have been prepping them for life after this house and then the government goes and does this. We hand out mail to them, because it is theirs but if I would have known it were these, I would have tossed them.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        If you weren’t already having discipline problems… (IIRC)

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah..now where is my 7-layer dip and a vodka drink. Throw me your slippers while we are at it.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “Eliza–!”

      • Ghostpatzer

        Start charging rent. “You already get free food. Sell those cards for $100, give us $50, and invest the difference”. Free entrepreneurship lessons FTW.

    • Nephilium

      The State is Mother. The State is Father.

      • Tres Cool

        Yup. They want those kids hooked on that free shit from Uncle Sugar.

        /sets reminder to ask Tres Version 2.0 if Ohio has sent him any such nonsense

      • Ownbestenemy

        From the looks of it…this falls on me and the wife for making a huge mistake of allowing the kids to sign up for the free-for-all program. USDA program administered by the states.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Hook ’em young?

      “The number you have dialed can no longer be reached from this phone, you [splice] negligent [splice] monster.”

      • rhywun

        LOL one of my favorite bits from that show.

    • rhywun

      Get them hooked on government bennies early?

      Do they seriously think 16-year-olds are gonna buy manwiches and tuna surprise with those cards?!

      • Ghostpatzer

        Teenage boys? Well, no. Popcorn surprise, on the other hand…

  23. Pope Jimbo

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Brooklyn Center announces new police reform: Citation and Release

    Brooklyn Center (city motto: Tazer, Tazer, Tazer) on Tuesday took its first step in reforming public safety by instructing police officers to release offenders they cite for low-level crimes and take them into custody only when the law requires them to do so.

    Under the new Citation and Release policy, officers can issue a citation for misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor offenses then let the person go. The policy also requires officers to attempt to de-escalate situations and try alternatives to avoid taking people into custody, and to document in writing all efforts taken before placing a person under arrest.

    “Today we are taking another step forward in our collective work to reimagining public safety in Brooklyn Center,” said Mayor Mike Elliott. “This step moves us closer to ensuring there is more equity in how we conduct public safety.”

    The idea is for officers to explore alternatives to avoid creating a criminal record, said City Attorney Troy Gilchrist.

    On paper, I agree with a lot of this proposed reform. I suspect though that in practice it means that the cops will not bother the violent criminals who have been shooting up the place.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Like the cashless bail it’s a noble experiment but I don’t see it working in the real world.

    • wdalasio

      So, let me guess, not responding to a citation is an offense they can take someone into custody on? If not, their citations are pretty much nothing but a joke. But, if they are, well, that seems to be one of the biggest areas where police interactions escalate.

  24. Rebel Scum

    They are enemies of Democracy, perhaps.

    “We are so in trouble in this country. I don’t know people understand how dire the situation is. If the Democrats lose the Republicans — who are so corrupt right now and we all know that, they’ll move in, Trump will run in 2024, he might win because of all the cheating that’s going on. We can’t let this happen. Manchin and Sinema must be brought to task. They’re the enemies right now of the democracy. As you pointed out before, yes, we have a great democracy, but it’s really on life support right now because of these two people.”

    • Ownbestenemy

      Paging Captain Projection, Captain Projection to the stage please.

      • Sean

        Seriously.

    • B.P.

      The prospect of someone winning an election is a threat to democracy.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Behar said, “What I think is making Biden administration shakey right now is what’s going on in the democrats, between the moderates and the progressives, because he was really on track to be the next Lyndon Johnson with the great society programs.”

      Um, does she know what a horrible person LBJ was? Or how fscked the Great Society programs were?

      She doesn’t seriously think a new LBJ and Great Society would be a good thing does she? No one is that dumb.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Probably or at least plausibly not. Two hundred dogs’ ears in the men’s room, who cares. He electrified Texas!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Yeah, looking at her demographics, probably does. Though she must remember Eisenhower as a child, she grew up with them as an adolescent.

      • rhywun

        on track to be the next Lyndon Johnson with the great society programs

        *outright, prolonged laughter*

      • The Other Kevin

        Party infighting is what’s making the Biden administration shaky. Not a list of colossal fuck ups as long as your arm.

      • kbolino

        LBJ had more stamina in the tip of his penis than Biden has in his entire body.

      • Zwak, jack off, all trades

        Just the tip.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        No, she’s just reading a script.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Yeah, they must all have earpieces.

  25. Rat on a train

    Spotsylvania board sticks with Patriot Highway as new name for U.S. 1
    A plea from some Spotsylvania County residents opposed to changing the name of Jefferson Davis Highway to Patriot Highway was rejected by county supervisors Tuesday night, as Fredericksburg-area localities continued to go in different directions on renaming U.S. 1.
    Battlefield District Supervisor Chris Yakabouski added a substitute motion to the consent agenda to change the name of the stretch of U.S. 1 in the county to Veterans Highway instead of Patriot Highway, which the board voted for last month.
    Spotsylvania NAACP President Moe Petway and others spoke in favor of Veterans Highway. They said the name is less politically divisive and more inclusive than Patriot Highway.

    “It’s unfortunate that patriot and patriotism has become offensive,” Chancellor District Supervisor Timothy McLaughlin said. “That’s the only thing I’ll say.”

    Petway said Patriot Highway “sounds good, but we know what that’s about.”

    • Rebel Scum

      “sounds good, but we know what that’s about.”

      Explain what it’s about.

      • Rat on a train

        It just like how flying the US flag is racist, but flying a BLM flag is unifying.

    • rhywun

      They said the name is less politically divisive and more inclusive than Patriot Highway.

      LOL only because the left hasn’t got around to redefining “veteran” yet.

  26. The Other Kevin

    “As with the Capitol rioters, there’s a persistent disbelief on the right that they will ever face real consequences for their bad actions.”

    That problem doesn’t at all exist on the left.

    I still can’t believe this person is real.

  27. Pope Jimbo

    The peasants are revolting! Scuffle breaks out at Minnesoda school board meeting and our rulers are very upset!

    A scuffle broke out during the Eastern Carver County school board meeting Monday night, prompting district leaders to call for civility and announce an increased police presence at future meetings.

    The physical altercation came at the end of a 45-minute public comment period dominated by speakers opposing the district’s decision to extend the masking requirement for students because of rising COVID-19 cases.

    In a statement posted online Tuesday, school board Chair Jeff Ross and Superintendent Lisa Sayles-Adams said the issue of masking has become a “flash point” in the district, which includes Chaska, Chanhassen, Carver and Victoria.

    “The behavior and conduct on display in our boardroom this week was unacceptable,” the statement read. “It is healthy for us to disagree and to seek more information. It is not OK, and not acceptable to resort to violence or accuse decisionmakers of being Nazis.”

    Shorter: “You can’t call us Nazis! You ignorant white supremacist rubes are really going to get it now!”

    • Ownbestenemy

      If they actually believed this “It is healthy for us to disagree and to seek more information” then I would say yes, it was unacceptable and probably a parent that was drunk or wasn’t getting what they wanted for little Suzy. However, that isn’t the case.

    • ignoreLander

      “The behavior and conduct on display in our boardroom this week was unacceptable,”

      Then don’t accept it, bish. Because it is what it is.

  28. Tres Cool

    In un-related child-rearing news, Tres V 2.0 and his teenaged buddy performed their 1st (mostly) solo 4-wheel brake change last weekend. Naturally, the event was responsibly supervise by me and a friend that drank beer while sitting in lawn chairs. While the procedure went well, I feel it isnt fair for him to live in a time where everything has 4-wheel disc. Trying to get a frozen brake drum off, wrestle with shoes and wheel-cylinders and springs, is all part of the magic in my mind.

    • R.J.

      Yes. One time I put the drums back together backwards. It still worked, but every spring was put back incorrectly. That experience is vital to a budding mechanic.

      • Tres Cool

        I still have a weird GM brake tool which is pliers, chisel, and spring wrench, all-in-one.

      • R.J.

        I have a gigantic hex wrench used on the allen bolts of GM disc brakes of unusual size…

  29. Count Potato

    “The average person drives 13,500 according to the DOT. $1,080 tax just to drive your car that you paid for with income that was taxed, paid sales tax on, were taxed for licensing fees and the fuel required to drive it was taxed.”

    https://twitter.com/ChestnutPhil/status/1442874100624490505

    So Biden wants an $ .08/mile driving tax.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Ah, Mr. Wilson / Ah, Mr. Heath…

    • The Other Kevin

      So he wants to tax disabled people for going to their appointments and participating in adaptive sports. I’d be paying $16 a week to start. Nice guy.

    • Ownbestenemy

      The Federal government spends about $600-750 million in fuel costs for their fleet. This tax on driving will raise money. See it costs us nothing!

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that this was included in their calculations.

    • kinnath

      The money is terrible.

      But what this really does is provide a door to GPS tracking of all vehicles.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They need a way to get tax money from EVs apparently.

      • Tres Cool

        Or FOR Ev’s that the gov’t will purchase from their UAW pals.

      • Sensei

        Bingo!

        If they achieve their dream of removing lots of ICE vehicles they are going to lose lots of tax revenues.

    • Animal

      Needless to say, this will really, really suck for rural folks.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        For everyone, unless the proponents want to live solely on their rooftop beehives and herb gardens.

      • Sensei

        They generally don’t vote properly so no big deal.

        Perhaps they can soothe things over with appropriate agricultural subisidies.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      So if the average person drives a car that gets 25 mpg, that’s 540 gallons/year. 18.3 cent/gallon gas tax now means on average people pay about $100/year on gas tax, so an increase of about $900+ per year.

      • Rat on a train

        I’ve been promised it only applies to people making more than $400,000.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        That’s only if you don’t drive, don’t smoke, don’t buy anything, don’t have a 401K, IRA, pension plan or any other kind of stock, and you don’t work for a company. Other than that, you won’t pay a dime.

    • db

      Biden just keeps hitting every note in the “Make my constituents hurt bad” symphony.

    • The Hyperbole

      How do you drive 13,500 miles/year? I barely manage that but 90% of my driving is work related and I get to “Write it off, Jerry!” So now am I going to get taxed for the miles I drive that I get to count against my taxes?

      • MikeS

        I drive about 23,500 every year.

      • The Hyperbole

        Work related or just in general?

      • kinnath

        I have an Xterra that I bought new in Nov 2015. It has 120,000 miles on it. The only reason that it’s not 140,000 is because of Work From Home over the last 18 months.

        Also a quarter of my annual driving is on the 350Z. So, 25,000 per year easy. That’s just work commuting and leisure travel.

      • kinnath

        And that doesn’t include any of the miles that my wife puts on the Rogue.

      • MikeS

        Mostly work. I live 50 miles from my employer. And I’m not alone. Not in the majority by any means, but there many others around here who do the same.

      • ignoreLander

        50 miles wow. I’m 11 miles from my employer and it seems like another country.

      • Rat on a train

        Before WFH, I drove a few miles to catch a train instead of driving ~50 miles to work. There were some federal employees that drove 50+ miles to get to the train station. I am sure there are people commuting for government jobs from more than 100 miles away.

    • Tres Cool

      Dancers with needle costumes? He ripped someone off, cause it’s been done.

      • Tres Cool

        *Side note: I find the choreography with the stretchers to be impressive. #NoHomo.

      • Tres Cool

        /saved for later when I have much more beer in me

        I remember that the Korg player, Zia something, did a nude spread for some chic magazine. She’s very razor-averse.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        ISTR from Dig! that she often played topless. Below that, IDK.

      • ignoreLander

        I think Zia did Suicidegirls maybe, while she was preggers.

        When Hayek asked about underrated bands the other day, I almost said the Dandys but didn’t because…. I think they had a fair amount of success, hell they were in a Farrelly brothers movie. And they had a documentary based on them ( and Brian Jonestown Massacre as well). So I thought they were well known but I’ll tell ya this — they have some of the greatest songs I’ve ever heard, and they deserved to be huge.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Meh, the best comics have always been the ones who assist with the shoring up of government narratives.

    • rhywun

      Is that Colbert? Ugh.

      I am reminded of the cringey worship of the NHS at the London Olympics opening ceremonies.

      We’re turning into Britain.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I haven’t been up to looking that up for nine years now.

      • rhywun

        Imagine people waving from flying hospital beds.

        You’re welcome.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Yeah, I heard. Hence the “no, ta”.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      It has a certain Weimar feel to it.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      From the History channel website.

      Paul Revere never shouted the legendary phrase later attributed to him (“The British are coming!”) as he passed from town to town. The operation was meant to be conducted as discreetly as possible since scores of British troops were hiding out in the Massachusetts countryside. Furthermore, colonial Americans at that time still considered themselves British; if anything, Revere may have told other rebels that the “Regulars”—a term used to designate British soldiers—were on the move.

  30. db

    Anyone know how to anonymize a domain name that I own but is associated with my actual name through the registry information? If it can be anonymized, is there any way for people to track past registry info?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Pay a company to take over for it? Create a shell corporation?

    • rhywun

      You can pay your host extra to pretend to be the registrar for you. That’s what I do.

    • kbolino

      Domain privacy is the serious answer

      There’s probably a record of past registration info somewhere, but the WHOIS system technically does not record history.

      • kinnath

        I pay for domain privacy.

      • db

        Would this require transferring to a different registrar? Currently, I registered the name through Comcast Business, which has a subcontractor that does the actual registration and DNS stuff.

      • kbolino

        Most commercial registrars offer the service. A quick search for Comcast didn’t turn up any results though.

      • db

        I had a look at Comcast’s subcontractor’s site, and if you go through them directly they offer a privacy service for about $5 a year. But if you go through Comcast, there is no option to add the privacy service.

      • slumbrew

        They are, of course, the debil, but I noticed today that Google’s registrar includes privacy for no extra cost ($12/yr. for .com domains)

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Dreamhost does not charge either for privacy.

      • slumbrew

        Good to know about DH – I’ve an account with them _forever_ so it’s chock-a-block with extras. They didn’t even do domain registration when I started with them – I should transfer from namecheap, looks to be a bit cheaper.

        However, due to GDPR, it’s all pretty private now, regardless. Almost every single field when you do a whois on my domain is ‘ Redacted for Privacy Purposes’

  31. Ownbestenemy

    I am getting some serious Peter vibes from Office Space today at work. We coordinate our work with our partners in air traffic as to not impact the NAS as much as possible. Sometimes though, things have to move forward regardless. I have spent all day explaining that to my boss who is either willfully ignorant (she has been in the position for 7+ years) or just a moron (which she is and AT lets me know all the time).

    We pride ourselves locally because we have a great relationship with our partners. Talking with other field offices usually results with comments like “oh we don’t talk with our air traffic and just do it”. But her insistence to nag me is making me think…you know what…we might just start doing that.

    • Tres Cool

      Pardon my ignorance, but if you’re ATC but dont talk to air traffic…what do you do ?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I am Technical Operations..you know…grunts that turn wrenches and stick our fingers in HV and keep radars spinning.

      • TARDis

        Hello sweaty brother-in-arms.
        Shit doesn’t fix/maintain itself, amirite?

    • Ted S.

      Embrace the power of “and”.

  32. ignoreLander

    white privilege has long shielded many conservatives from the concept of facing consequences for their actions.

    Heh hehhe hehehah haahahahahahahaha LOL

    This might be the single most projection statement I’ve ever had the bad fortune to read, and I’ve read a ton of them.

    • hayeksplosives

      Yeah, that was heavy-duty projection there, including the statements about corruption and cheating in elections.

      Granted, nearly all politicians are corrupt, but she really thinks the election fraud is all on the Rs?

      • ignoreLander

        Granted, nearly all politicians are corrupt, but she really thinks the election fraud is all on the Rs?

        You misspelled FUCKING EVERY!!!!!

        Sorry, too easy to make a joke. BTW your thread yesterday about underrated bands led me to a lot of new music, to the point that I have bought 4 new records, just today!

  33. Not Adahn

    ultimately it all boils down to a desire to “own the liberals.”

    Her telepathy has always been uncanny. She can tell that pro-lifers are really just interested in controlling women and punishing sluts, no matter how much they lie about “unborn children.”

    • Ownbestenemy

      Wait…you all weren’t trying to just own the liberals? Shit. *furiously scours internet for a site to be part of…clicks ZH*

      • kbolino

        I don’t hate the Jews, but somehow ZH feels less authentic without frothing antisemitism right below the fold.

      • ignoreLander

        ZH? Sheeeeee-it. Go to Bitchute if you’re after that.

        By the way, I still will visit Bitchute 10,000 times before I go to Youtube once.

      • EvilSheldon

        If you pwn the libs, don’t you have to feed and water them?

  34. ignoreLander

    Seerius-fucking-lee SugarFree, I wouldn’t read this shit even if it was to put some excellent links together for the Glibs. That you have read not only the article, but THE COMMENTS, well, hats off amigo, you’re a better man than I.

  35. hayeksplosives

    Catching up on some unread Mark Steyn:

    The western world’s descent into suicidal madness is so well advanced that even so-called conservatives cling to small-ball arguments: oh, why hasn’t Kamala or the Homeland Security guy visited Del Rio? Who cares? And what exactly is the “crisis” at America’s southern border?

    To prudent persons quaint enough to believe that a nation state’s first responsibility is to the people who are already here, the crisis is that, at a time when the northern border is closed to the law-abiding on public health grounds, down south a quarter-million persons can simply walk into America every month and they don’t require vaccine passports (or even the non-vaccine kind) because, as Jen Psaki put it, “They’re not intending to stay here.”

    “They’re not intending to stay here”? She is not stupid enough to believe that, is she? I d think she’s arrogant enough to think we will believe it.

    Or brazen enough to say it even knowing she’s not fooling anyone.

    • Fourscore

      I wish every freedom loving Canadian would caravan into the US, eh, we never have enough. It might turn MN red.

    • rhywun

      I’m not “intending to stay” in restaurants or museums either, but I’m still prohibited from entering one.

      • hayeksplosives

        Well put.

      • MikeS

        Haha. That is awesome. My vote is for you winning the internet today.

  36. db

    Another question:

    On a whim, I started looking for Gadsden flags. It’s amazing how many flag vendors lie and /or obfuscate about the properties of the flags they sell, like material, embroidered vs. printed, and whether they are manufactured in the US or not.

    Anyone know of a high quality Gadsden flag that is embroidered and made in the US?

    • db

      Holy crap, were they stealing from the tip jar too?

      • Ghostpatzer

        Doubt it. Not vouching for the owners, I don’t know them from Adam, but note that the story does not mention tips. I am pretty sure that the workers were doing better than the article would lead you to believe.

      • Sensei

        Frequently the employees are in on it. They get paid for 40 and cash under the table for the remaining.

        Somebody must have been pissed at the owners.

    • Sean

      Nice.

    • TARDis

      That made my day. Thanks, hockey dude.

    • MikeS

      That guy fucks!

    • Ghostpatzer

      Damn!

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      Would

    • EvilSheldon

      Of course his name is Chad.

  37. Yusef drives a Kia

    Two words, Aquatic therapy,
    Yay!

    • db

      Moist!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I prefer wet, like a Hawt Woman, but yeah,

    • hayeksplosives

      Oh nice! Takes the weight off your back but allows some exercise. Glad you found it.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      I saw that getting circulated. That’s not good news to those of us who are hoping for some support when our companies come after us. United has 95,000 employees. 0.6% stood up to the point they’re paying with their job. Doesn’t change my resolve, but I was really hoping to be standing with 5-7% of my coworkers, not 0.5-0.7%.

      • Sean

        I wonder how many faked vaxxed card stories we’re going to see over the next couple months.

      • rhywun

        Right?

    • Ghostpatzer

      I hope he has good private security. He seems accident prone.

      • juris imprudent

        He hasn’t hinted at having dirt on the Clinton’s has he?

  38. hayeksplosives

    I went digging for pre-covid “anti-vaxx” articles and found one from 2017 that tries to use statistics and surveys to tease out the political affiliations of the anti-vaxx.

    I can tell the author really wants to be able to stay it’s the stupid conservatives, but what he finds is that it’s extreme liberals AND extreme conservatives who are likely to be most skeptical.

    Also this comes out:

    This suggests that there are a number of people who believe that vaccines are safe but also believe that vaccinations should be a parent’s choice. Why would someone believe that? It may have more to do with their views of the government than their beliefs about vaccines.

    • Urthona

      Until recently it’s always been rich left wingers. They published a list of vaccination rates in schools in my state (Texas) and it was only left wing left wing saturated areas that didn’t have great vaccination rates.

      • Urthona

        I think the reason for this is for awhile it correlated with all the organic food buying types.

      • hayeksplosives

        That’s a reasonable hypothesis.

        “Oh, no! We don’t use CHEMICALS in our house!”

        (Eye roll)

      • Urthona

        Chemicals are the worst. For health reasons, I live in a total vacuum.

      • hayeksplosives

        No icky O2 for you, mister!

    • EvilSheldon

      Why would someone believe that? It may have more to do with their views of the government than their beliefs about vaccines.

      You. Don’t. Say.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      In my experience it’s mostly hippy dippy Marin County types and a handful of conservative Christians, but maybe that’s because I live in California.

      • Urthona

        The actual data showed it too.

        California actually had a big problem with people claiming religious exemption from vaccines who were left wing atheists. I remember several articles about it

      • slumbrew

        ISTR it was hipster-parent Brooklyn that had a big problem with measles due to the skipping of the vax.

      • hayeksplosives

        Do the ones who were real loud-mouths about not getting their kids vaccinated for measles, mumps, polio, etc (Jim Carrey, Kristen Cavallari, etc) speak up against the Covid vaccine mandates?

        If so, it’s not getting much coverage.

      • Urthona

        No, because at their hearts these are fashionable people who want to be a crust above their neighbors.

        Organic foods, gluten free, juice cleanses, no toxins in the vaccines.

        But these vaccines are a status symbol of right think. They are all taking them.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Vaccine articles and arguments always tend to paint extreme sides, and always in favor of vaccine mandates.

      I think most people who would be labeled as “anti-vaxers” are anything but this. We have the crazy belief that vaccines are not uniformly identical in risks and benefits and so should be evaluated accordingly. The extremely effective and safe pertussis vaccine is a whole different scenario than the Hep B vaccine, which has zero upside for any newborn whose mother isn’t an intravenous drug user. Many of the other newer vaccines fall somewhere in between.

      I think I had somewhere around 8 injections as a child. Last I checked, there are close to 40 required injections for kids today. I’m not convinced all of these are necessary, especially given that the same people who are adding them to the CDC schedule of required vaccines are also the ones who stand to reap massive financial windfalls by making these drugs required for every American child who isn’t homeschooled.

      • hayeksplosives

        (Side note on individual risk and on vaccine efficacy: I’m very allergic to the tetanus vaccine.

        When I got my “bite” injury this year, I declined the tetanus shot even though my last one was 23 years ago. They did a blood test and found that I still have active antibodies to tetanus, so no booster was needed anyway.)

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        I’m troubled about the shortcut in thinking when something is labeled a vaccine. The marketing department at Pfizer could probably label bear piss a vaccine and a significant number of people would take it because they don’t want to be stoopid anti-vaxxers.

        In reality vaccines are a variation of the trolley problem, and each one has it’s own set of parameters about who and how many are on the trolley and who and how many are on the side track. Each one should be judged individually, but I guess we’re not allowed to think that way because vaccine == good.

      • Urthona

        Moderna bear piss actually has fewer breakthrough infections after 6 months.

      • hayeksplosives

        J&J just has the bear piss directly into your mouth.

      • hayeksplosives

        I was sympathetic to the parents who didn’t want the schools to require their 13 year old daughters to get the HPV vaccine. I think they won that round, but it was scary to think the government was going to use school to force this on people.

        It was discriminatory too; men can get cancer due to HPV. Looking at you, Michael Douglas.

      • TARDis

        My son got these vaccines. At least they passed trials.

      • Mojeaux

        My pediatrician wanted to shoot my daughter up with that when she was 8. I said no and she gave me a slightly disapporving look. Sixteen was soon enough, tyvm.

      • Ghostpatzer

        8??? What happened to “first, do no harm?”

      • TARDis

        This isn’t funny, but I said it anyway. The fact that my wife was nonplussed kind of annoyed me.

        She said they just need it before they become sexually active.
        And I’m like; so when he’s 29?
        This makes me sad. Autism sucks.

      • Ghostpatzer

        Ouch. Still waiting on my two to get a clue about the other team.

      • TARDis

        Well there is not much healthy guidance outside the home these days. How old are they?
        I listen to the stories of my coworkers and I weep for the future.

      • Mojeaux

        Aw, I’m sorry.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I hear you. It hits me sometimes too when thinking about my son’s future.

      • Ghostpatzer

        Tons of pressure for my boys to get the HPV vaccine when they were in HS. We did not go for that one either

      • westernsloper

        I think I had somewhere around 8 injections as a child. Last I checked, there are close to 40 required injections for kids today. I’m not convinced all of these are necessary, especially given that the same people who are adding them to the CDC schedule of required vaccines are also the ones who stand to reap massive financial windfalls by making these drugs required for every American child who isn’t homeschooled.

        You are one of our resident Doc’s right? I have became obsessed to the point of near insanity with this covid shit because I think it is changing society for the worse more than anything in my lifetime. The one thing this near insanity has made me realize is we have been being pushed these vaccines for decades mostly without a blink of an eye. Now kids are allergic to every fucking thing and have all kinds of respiratory problems when that was not the case when I was a kid. There was two with allergies and those were the kids whose parents were chain smokers. I think they have been playing the long con and I am becoming a huge big pharma skeptic in all this. I am no longer a “it’s a private company they can do what they want” sort. Fuck them, they are using their government arm, the CDC to push this shit and making people less healthy. Frankly, I am a bit pissed off about it. Maybe I am pissed at my ignorance all these years.

      • Ghostpatzer

        “Maybe I am pissed at my ignorance all these years.”

        Welcome to the club. All too often I ask myself “where the fuck was I while all this shit was going down”. Not just about vaccines.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Not a physician but I work in the research side of health care.

        Agree with all you’ve said. Dr. Sears has a book that does a pretty good job providing an objective overview of the risk/benefits for each individual vaccine.

      • Tundra

        Every word. I’m fucking embarrassed how easily I went along.

      • kinnath

        I’m from the generation had moms that would get their kids together for chickenpox parties.

        I remember being lined up in schools for the oral polio vaccines. I don’t recall any other vaccines beyond tetanus and polio.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I think I had somewhere around 8 injections as a child. Last I checked, there are close to 40 required injections for kids today. I’m not convinced all of these are necessary, especially given that the same people who are adding them to the CDC schedule of required vaccines are also the ones who stand to reap massive financial windfalls by making these drugs required for every American child who isn’t homeschooled.

        Wife and I are having an ongoing conversation about this regarding our kids’ vaccinations. Not that we’re particularly concerned about most of the vaccines causing side effects, but COVID opened our eyes a bit to the self serving nature of the pharma to CDC to doctor pipeline.

        We’re still honing our criteria, but the overarching principle is one of least medication. If the risk isn’t high, then let’s think twice before dumping more medications into our bodies “just in case”. Our baseline rejection criteria are vaccines tainted by abortion, vaccines for illnesses that don’t pose a threat of serious harm or death (for the particular person at that time), and vaccines for illnesses that can be prevented through lifestyle choices. Everything that makes it through that seive is kept on the list.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Check out the Sears book I mentioned above for an objective overview of the evidence for each vaccine. He gets slammed as an antivaxer but the he’s advocating for vaccines throughout the book.
        https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/779230.The_Vaccine_Book

        We followed the 1988 CDC schedule for our kids and then added some of the newer vaccines after they turned 4.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        That’s the 2007 version but I think there’s a more recent one available.

      • hayeksplosives

        Seems like a good resource.

        I had a prolonged febrile seizure as a toddler. Later on I was diagnosed (in my 30s) with temporal lobe epilepsy after I had a big tonic-clonic seizure. Turns out I’d been having “partial” seizures all through my 20s without knowing it.

        Anyway, there’s some medical debate on this, but the theory is that when the brain swells due to fever, it doesn’t have anywhere to go but down, and that can cause the brain to poke on a little protrusion in the skull (can’t remember the name) and cause a lesion on the brain. That’s what causes the life-long epilepsy.

        1) most infants/toddlers with febrile seizures never develop epilepsy later.

        2) my febrile seizure was right after I got the DTP vaccine, and I have a known allergy to the tetanus vaxx.

        Maybe coincidence, maybe not. The benefits of the vaccine (now replaced by DTaP) outweigh the risks, but there ARE risks.

    • kinnath

      I bet he had a Tiger Mom.

      • Urthona

        I hope at 40 he just kinda decides to smoke weed and tour America in an RV for awhile. He deserves it

      • Tundra

        Dunno, but his dad was shot by cops during a DV call.

      • Urthona

        If there’s anything that could cause me to become a medical doctor slash astronaut that’s it.

    • Sean

      Good for her.

    • Urthona

      The last issue that Democrats and Republicans agree on has been resolved.

      • TARDis

        Are you sure? Trump is still a free man, and having rallies to boot.

    • creech

      Another 45 days? Justice sure moves slow these days. The Nuremburg Trial of the principal Nazi Criminal Scum lasted about eleven months from opening until the guilty were executed in Oct. 1946. Several weeks ago, a local murder trial just opened where the alleged perp had been sitting in the county jail for 3 years waiting his trial.

    • Urthona

      I hope clones don’t start waking up.

    • Tundra
      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        That reminds me of the 90’s in DC, seeing my boyfriend’s friend’s band almost every weekend back at ol’ TT Reynolds and various other venues.

      • slumbrew

        A band I only know about due to via RHCP lyrics.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Crazy!

      • slumbrew

        Beautiful destruction. Must be gut-wrenching to watch that as a homeowner.

        Perhaps I’m a bad person, but I muted that video and used this as background music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeWoGr5110o

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Perfect,

    • R.J.

      I’ve been loving the volcano links. Great stuff!

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Yay! Science* is fun!

        *real science, not Science™

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      The La Palma volcano managed to add to the Canaries’ land mass. The Iceland one has just added height so far. Loser!!

      • Urthona

        Is there any way we could race out and claim a new island for Libertalia?

      • R.J.

        Excellent suggestion

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Unfortunately, the new land is still attached to La Palma. Maybe if it breaks off…

      • Ghostpatzer

        +1 Lex Luthor

  39. westernsloper

    …has been observed to affect the genitals of both men and women. In women, the labia and clitoris may become engorged and there may be a discharge of blood from the vagina[5] while in men, “a more or less complete state of erection of the penis, with discharge of urine, mucus or prostatic fluid is a frequent occurrence …

    The shit I learn here.

    • slumbrew

      Wait, you clicked-through a SF link?

      They’ve hit HM-status for me. Do Not Click.

      (although I have never regretted clicking on this HM link (low key NSFW)

      • DEG

        I click on all HM’s links.

        (although I have never regretted clicking on this HM link (low key NSFW)

        That is a good one of his.

      • DEG

        I remember that one. That was good.

      • slumbrew

        Correct. I believe I have HM to thank for liking them.

      • Mojeaux

        The resurgence of funk. ❤️

      • westernsloper

        I have never clicked on an HM link I have regretted. Jesus man, he is not Ted.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      “a more or less complete state of erection of the penis, with discharge of urine, mucus or prostatic fluid is a frequent occurrence …”
      JFC, see a Doctor! you’re doing it all wrong….

      • slumbrew

        Well, the subject in question is dead, so Doc isn’t going to be able to help much.

      • juris imprudent

        Quincy MD!

    • Urthona

      Go on…

      *unzips*

  40. Tulip

    OBE: thinking about the problem of kids getting EBT cards. Have them come to grocery store with you and see how far it (doesn’t) go.

  41. Old Man With Candy

    Zoom for anyone interested.