What to do with Sauerkraut

by | Oct 13, 2021 | Cooking, Food & Drink, LifeSkills | 294 comments

Back in December 2020, I showed you how easy it is to make your own sauerkraut.  I didn’t, however, discuss how to use the sauerkraut.  Here are some ways to serve sauerkraut.

The most obvious, and classic way, to serve sauerkraut is as a side dish.  I made a red kraut, and warmed it up with sauteed onions and apples[i].  There are onions and apples in my kraut, so using fresh apples and onions freshens it up.  I served it alongside a (what else) sausage.  I also added a little caraway seed and a sprinkling of blue cheese.

I also used my sauerkraut in place of fresh cabbage in a bubble and squeak.  I had a little leftover pork chop, fresh rainbow carrots from my garden, onion, garlic and celery.  I added leftover mashed potatoes, and the sauerkraut, and then topped it with a little cheddar cheese.  I may never use fresh cabbage in a bubble and squeak again.  The sauerkraut added a nice sour note and really made it better.

Lastly, I use the sauerkraut in another classic, pierogi! I made sauerkraut, potato and cheese pierogi.  Low carb people – look away.  This is one of those recipes, like tamales, that I really like, but only make about once a year.  They are a lot of work, but happily they freeze well.  Freeze before boiling by setting them on a cookie sheet.  When frozen, you can put them in a gallon Ziploc freezer bag.  You can cook them from frozen, they just need to be boiled a little longer.

I made a sour cream dough, then mixed the sauerkraut with mashed potatoes and blue cheese for the filling (2 c mashed potato, 1 cup sauerkraut, ½ c blue cheese).  Roll out to about 1/8th of an inch and cut into 3 inch circles.  Put a little filling in each and fold over and seal.  I like my pierogi to be boiled, then fried in butter until brown and crispy.  The texture of crispy outside and soft inside with the filling is lovely.  I serve these with fried onions and a pork chop, sausage, chicken thigh, or just a salad.  (Sorry, forgot to get a picture.)

There are many more ways to use sauerkraut – sauerkraut-balls, in soups, in casseroles, and even in a cake! but these should get you started.  I haven’t even touched on the reuben sandwich, which I know is a favorite of Mojeaux’s.  So, here’s not an actual reuben, but a reuben casserole.

This year I plan to make both red and green sauerkraut.  Are any of you making sauerkraut this year?

[i] Cooking the sauerkraut will kill the probiotics.  If I serve it as just a side dish, I serve it either room temperature or gently heated.

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294 Comments

  1. Chafed

    Thanks for reminding us you showed us how to make sauerkraut. I have to reread, print, and save that article. I know it keeps for a long time but how long is it safe to store it?

    • Tulip

      Not sure, a year? As long as it stays below the brine, it’s fine. If it goes bad, you’ll know. It will smell BAD.

      • Chafed

        Thanks Tulip.

  2. db

    I fricking love Reuben sandwiches.

    • straffinrun

      Reuben and what’s the other guy’s name?

      • MikeS

        Rachel?

      • db

        No going back to previous posts

    • rhywun

      I can’t decide if that casserole looks delicious or looks ?.

    • Mojeaux

      My dude!

      I grill my Reuben sauerkraut.

      I also like hot sauerkraut with cooked sausage (Polish, Beddar Cheddar) or hot dogs.

      • Chafed

        That takes me back. There was a kosher deli near where I grew up. I would get hot dogs with sauerkraut and the kraut was really hot. It was delicious.

      • R.J.

        I too, like Reubens. I have not made my own sauerkraut though. I did assemble red jalapeño hot sauce last week per instructions.

    • EvilSheldon

      Reubens are the best of the hot sandwich family, it is known. And with homemade Sauerkraut? Oh hell yes.

      db (continuing from the deadthread) – I’m not sure what kind of broadhead I used. It was on an arrow I found by the side of the trail while I was out taking a walk, years ago. Looking at the Cabela’s website, it might have been an NAP Thunderhead. I also tried a cheap field point. Neither one made it through a Kevlar vest sample that I hung on a hay bale.

      Supposedly you can drive an icepick through soft armor if it’s braced against something solid, but it takes a hell of a lot of effort.

      • db

        Interesting, thanks for the information. I’ll try to see what my friend used. I didn’t see it myself, so it could be a tall tale. That’s what you get for believing everything you hear.

      • Stillhunter

        I’m not an expert, but this guy is:
        https://www.ashbybowhunting.org

        I’m going to guess that the arrow/broadhead combinations he recommends for taking large, thick-skinned game (elephant, etc.) will penetrate most armor if it’s capable of breaking large bones and still penetrating multiple FEET into the animal.

      • R C Dean

        A lot of that is going to be the bow.

      • R C Dean

        Huh. Learned something today. Thanks.

      • Stillhunter

        You’re welcome. I still remember the big push for smaller, faster arrows with goofy broadheads pushed by speedy bows right after I started bow hunting around 1986. I had a couple friends jump in with both feet. They lost several animals before going back to heavier arrows and cut on contact broadheads. It was all a sales tactic. This guy’s data takes that anecdotal evidence to another level.

      • db

        That’s some really good info. Thanks for sharing!

      • EvilSheldon

        That test would be a good example of soft armor braced against something solid. I had mine hung loosely over a hay bale, which I think is a better simulation of being worn.

        If anyone ever wants to do their own informal ballistic testing, http://bulletproofme.com/index.shtml is where I got my test samples.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Reubens are the best of the hot sandwich family, it is known.

        You misspelled turkey with gravy, followed by pot roast with gravy open face sandwiches. And SOS (which is essentially an open faced sandwich), hot pastrami, hot corned beef. All better than a Reuben. I used to like them but the sauerkraut and cheese aren’t doing it for me anymore.

      • MikeS

        Correct. I would also make the possibly controversial addition of chili-burger. And I don’t mean the kind you pick up with your hands. There’s a truck stop here that does it open face and completely buries the burger with chili.

      • Gustave Lytton

        My first introduction was a chili burger from Dairy Queen by the beach. I don’t know when they stopped doing it but they don’t have it anymore.

      • Mojeaux

        I FLUUUUUVE S.O.S.

      • Gustave Lytton

        As long it’s not Navy style minced beef with tomato sauce. Not SOS.

      • Mojeaux

        No.

        Rehydrated chipped beef with cream sauce on buttered Texas toast or GTFO.

    • Grummun

      I have gotten a lot of strange looks from servers by insisting that the sauerkraut on the Reuben should be dry. Soggy Reubens suck. But a good Reuben… get in my tummy.

      • Mojeaux

        Agreed. Hot and dry.

      • rhywun

        Hot and dry.

        Any takers?

      • Chafed

        I don’t know… that sounds painful. Oh that’s right, it’s how I got my handle.

      • Grummun

        Dammit. And I try so hard to comment without the burr.

  3. Ghostpatzer

    Plebeian me has only ever had sauerkraut as a topping on tube steaks, but I do love it. I cannot see myself actually making it from scratch, but you’ve provided a few good ideas here. Thanks!

  4. DrOtto

    Cabbage rolls are another good use for sauerkraut. I really need to get that recipe from my mother.

    • Brochettaward

      Cabbage isn’t food.

      • MikeS

        Which is why it is turned into sauerkraut or coleslaw.

      • straffinrun

        Really? I love raw cut cabbage. Served in a giant mound next to Tonkatsu (breaded pork cutlet).

      • db

        Yes!

      • MikeS

        I like cabbage cooked, fermented, or covered up with mayo, but fresh cut kind of assaults my taste senses. Can’t really explain why. Combination of texture and taste.

      • rhywun

        For me, it triggers the same gag reflex I get from all members of that family.

      • Tulip

        Salt wilted is yummy.

      • Sensei

        Also plays well with yakitori and horumonyaki.

      • The Hyperbole

        Haluski, when the onion is nicely caramelized and the cabbage still had just a bit of crunch.

      • MikeS

        Looked that up. It looks delicious.

      • straffinrun

        Maybe I’ll try making that for dinner tomorrow. Seems like you could fuck it up and it’d still be good.

      • The Hyperbole

        One of the co-owners of the bar I call home is of Croatian lineage and every so often they offer one of his grandmothers recipes as the lunch/dinner special, Haluski or Sarma. Foolishly (and against my repeated admonitions) they most often go with run-of-the-mill Italian-American fare. Yes we need more places that sell Italian sub sammiches.

      • straffinrun

        Forget pizza. Make that on the next zoom.

      • westernsloper

        Hype makes shitty pizza anyways so I agree with straff. That looks good.

      • Tulip

        Yes! Hyperbole should make haluski on camera!

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Oh my.

      • rhywun

        My mom would cook cabbage and some meat I can’t remember but we were poor AF so probably not corned beef. Blech.

        She rocked an amazing Thanksgiving spread but everyday meals… oofa.

      • MikeS

        I thought* corned beef was cheap?

        *wife does all the shopping

      • rhywun

        Yeah, maybe it was corned beef. My mind is clouded by the horrible memory of cabbage.

      • Lackadaisical

        Last I saw, not particularly cheap actually.

      • UnCivilServant

        Once upon a time, it was cheap.

        Now it’s gone and been appropriated for its flavor.

        The best bargains are to buy during the st patty’s day glut and freeze some.

      • l0b0t

        It is normally $8.49 per lb. here in the Rockaways but, because of tremendous amount of Irish residents, it drops to $0.69 per lb. starting in late February.

      • db

        That might be worth a trip out to score a supply for the year.

      • DrOtto

        You’re not the first person to say that.

  5. Not Adahn

    My mom would cook meatballs (made from ground pork and white bread) in sauerkraut.

  6. MikeS

    I like my pierogi to be boiled, then fried in butter until brown and crispy.

    As Yahweh intended.

    I’ve never had a sauerkraut pierogi. I need to try that sometime.

    • Lackadaisical

      ‘I’ve never had a sauerkraut pierogi.’

      Does not compute.

      • straffinrun

        I don’t even know what a pierogi. Some kind of wop slop I’m guessing.

      • UnCivilServant

        Wrong. They’re pollack potato ravioli.

      • Lackadaisical

        I feel the potato ones are sacrilegious.

      • UnCivilServant

        Eh, they can be filled with nigh anything. I just run into the potato ones most often because it’s a cheap filling.

      • straffinrun

        You’re a regular chef-boy-herpes.

      • MikeS

        I’ve only had potato + X varieties. And they were all delicious.

    • Timeloose

      Mrs. T is not doing her job getting the word out.

      I know they are not the best, but they were all I could find in South TX.

      I have too many pierogi options here at home. Farmers cheese and potato and cabbage are the best.

  7. Tundra

    Brats and sauerkraut are about perfect together.

    • MikeS

      You forgot the bier!!!!11!!!!

      • Tundra

        Whoops! Yes, beer makes it the Trinity,

      • dbleagle

        Amen to that.

  8. commodious spittoon

    I bought a super cool gun!

    If I have to put down any Indians in the cupboard in an urban counterterrorism situation, I’m set.

  9. pistoffnick

    There is a local food truck that makes deep fried Reuben balls. They are very good!

    • Mojeaux

      Wait, WHUUUUU?! I must see these.

      • Mojeaux

        That looks FANTASTIC!

      • rhywun

        I’ll take one of each.

        The one thing I miss about the office is the array of food trucks parked out front. When I was ordered back at the beginning of the summer, the food trucks were nowhere to be found and all my favorite restaurants were shuttered.

        But yeah, the left says I don’t want to go back because I’m “afraid”.

    • westernsloper

      Would!

  10. Zwak, sensual panzer

    The wife makes sauerkraut, and we love it. It is very good with local brats, part of rachel or rueben, or anything else that sounds good. My favorite is a Polska with stone ground mustard and the kraut.

    • Zwak, sensual panzer

      Oh, I forgot that it goes on one of the two types of BBQ, pulled pork.

      It puts the pork on a bun with the slaw! It does this every day, or it gets the hose.

  11. kinnath

    Some cheerful news

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/young-boy-goes-viral-after-shouting-lets-go-brandon-into-mic-after-announcing-start-of-race

    A young boy went viral over the weekend after shouting “Let’s Go Brandon” when asked to announce the start of a NAPA Super DIRT race.

    “Drivers, start your engines,” three children shouted into the microphone when asked by the announcer to “help kick this thing off” at the race at New York’s Oswego Speedway Sunday.

    “Let’s go Brandon!” the boy standing in the middle added.

    • rhywun

      If anyone has a right to resent what the left has done to America, it’s someone from Oswego.

    • Stillhunter

      I love that this has become a thing. Even my kids are talking about it. There may be hope for humanity yet.

  12. westernsloper

    Back in December 2020, I showed you how easy it is to make your own sauerkraut.

    Ya, and I haven’t done it yet. I suck. A well made rueben is a work of art. I can make a well made rueben.

    • Tulip

      Add a cabbage to your next Wal-Mart grocery order. You’re welcome.

    • straffinrun

      No pain or symptom management if you aren’t vaxxed. Take the full brunt of the disease you granny killer.

    • The Hyperbole

      Meh, the “should you taker a baby aspirin a day or not” war has been going on for at least two decades, It not something they are making up just to kill people who get covid.

      • westernsloper

        You now need to post two decades of NYT articles taking both sides.

      • The Hyperbole

        No, You need to post two decades of them not doing that.

      • MikeS

        Yeah, the risk of stomach bleeding has been a potential side effect for as long as I can remember.

        I can’t comment on the specifics of Trashy’s article because it’s paywalled, but if it’s in reference to this draft recommendation, it’s not a flat-out do-not-recommend:

        “The latest evidence is clear: starting a daily aspirin regimen in people who are 60 or older to prevent a first heart attack or stroke is not recommended,” says Task Force member Chien-Wen Tseng, M.D., M.P.H., M.S.E.E. “However, this Task Force recommendation is not for people already taking aspirin for a previous heart attack or stroke; they should continue to do so unless told otherwise by their clinician.”

      • westernsloper

        Listen asshole. There is only one rule on this site. And that is YOU NEVER AGREE WITH THE HYPERBOLE. It is known and most of us follow it. I think you should just fall in line here and there will be no trouble.

      • MikeS

        This is the second, maybe third, time I’ve done so in the last couple weeks. I wonder if I should see a doctor…

      • UnCivilServant

        If you give him that much power over your opinions, then he can force you into any stance he wants.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Yes you can.

      • MikeS

        You mean like, THE stance? Ewww!

      • Gadfly

        There is only one rule on this site. And that is YOU NEVER AGREE WITH THE HYPERBOLE.

        Wait, I thought it was the reverse. I thought the rule was “The Hyperbole never agrees with you”. I’m confused.

        *JK, you’re not that much of a contrarian TH. You’re cool. Unless you disagree with that statement.*

      • Mojeaux

        the risk of stomach bleeding has been a potential side effect

        I learned that the hard way …

      • Gender Traitor

        Were you on an aspirin regimen?

        Most importantly, how are you feeling today?

      • Plinker762

        She looks a little green.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s a seasonal ailment, comes about every fall.

      • Mojeaux

        I feel almost like nothing was done … because it wasn’t. They got me under, inflated me, got the camera in, and saw they couldn’t do anything laparoscopically (or even open) because of too much scar tissue. It will have to be done robotically at some later date.

      • Gender Traitor

        I saw that it had to be delayed. (Sorry! ?) So they didn’t even poke any holes in you?

      • MikeS

        Well that sucks. Sorry to hear that, Mo.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Sorry Moj 🙁

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, yes, they poked all the holes and pumped me full of CO2, got the scope in, looked around, and that was that.

      • Mojeaux

        No, I wasn’t on a regimen. It’s my preferred painkiller.

      • Gender Traitor

        I take a couple of ibu right before bed to try to keep my wonky shoulder from waking me up with a painful pinched nerve. I gather ibu’s getting a bit of a bad rep, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to take acetaminophen. It makes me feel clammy.

      • rhywun

        I have shoulder issues now too since I side-sleep. Hasn’t occurred to me to try pain relievers before bed. Very rarely I need a pill post-sleep but I got into that habit after surgery last year and it’s for the down-there area not my shoulders. I try to avoid the pills as much as possible. But when I partake it’s acetaminophen all the way. Ibuprofen is part of what sent me to the hospital last year.

      • Mojeaux

        I take Tylenol PM to get to sleep.

        Now I have yet another bottle of oxy I won’t use.

      • grrizzly

        Oxy was good last fall. I recall state after state declaring for Biden a few days after the election day and I couldn’t care less cause I had to take oxy after my oral surgery.

      • Mojeaux

        Oxy doesn’t do anything for me that aspirin, Tylenol, or ibuprofen can’t do.

        Dilaudid makes me puke.

        Fentanyl’s the magical stuff, but I have to be really hurting (and in the hospital) to take that.

      • rhywun

        Opioids make me puke. Ask my best friend’s wife.

    • westernsloper

      JFC

    • Fourscore

      Now after 35 years of a daily aspirin you tell me it isn’t safe. Damn it, I’m always the last one to get the word. Aspirin also is effective in pre-treating covid, works for me.

      • westernsloper

        ^ This is a study I trust.

      • rhywun

        Right?!

  13. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    I used to bake pork chops in kraut then eat the chops and the crispy top of the kraut.

    • Timeloose

      pork roast cooked in Kraut on new year’s. It’s a great tradition.

    • Ghostpatzer

      “The third suspect incorrectly judged his own speed or K-9 Titan’s speed and attempted to run away,” Stafford County deputies said, according to the station. “This attempt was futile as K-9 Titan was released and apprehended the suspect within 50 yards.”

      Good boy!

      • rhywun

        Way to assume its gender, shitlord.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      I had some problems selling my Pontiac GT because it was standard shift. I even offered it to my grandson but he admitted that he couldn’t drive a manual.

      Kids these days!!

      • slumbrew

        That’s fantastic. My SIL would love that.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        Ordered. Mrs. Hobbit loved it.

      • R.J.

        It really is the best way to prevent car theft now. Kids cannot drive stick.

      • EvilSheldon

        If you can’t drive a stick, you can’t really drive.

      • Zwak, sensual panzer

        This. And add kickstart a motorcycle to that.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        With a stick shift you’re driving, with an automatic you’re just steering.

        /my dad, roughly paraphrased

      • Gadfly

        When I totaled my 20-y.o. manual Civic this year, I went to buy a new Civic and they weren’t even selling them in manual anymore (in the models that I was interested in, at least). When I asked about transmission options, the saleswoman referred to things as standard (meaning automatic) and manual. Times have changed.

      • db

        That’s fucked up, yo. “Standard” is manual.

        I was at a store a few weeks ago and one of the counter guys saw me drive up in my Tacoma, and he was very keen to talk about Tacomas (he drives one as well). I told him I love the truck and especially because Toyota is the only company that sells a truck in a manual transmission anymore. I won’t buy a car with an automatic. After that he wanted nothing to do with me, like I was some kind of freak.

    • rhywun

      Land briefly was taken to a hospital for treatment of a dog bite

      Good dog!

    • one true athena

      I hope there’s video eventually, because that whole story is great stuff

    • R.J.

      Yes please.

  14. Stillhunter

    Bookmarked. My grandfather made sauerkraut all the time. His family came from Bohemia. I remember crocks of it in his cellar, which we called the cave, because that’s exactly what it was.

  15. commodious spittoon

    I’m done with the fucking mask. I go shopping with it under my chin, nobody says a thing. The very barest of compliance is being unwilling to ask someone else to comply. We’re done. You’ll put masks on your children but you won’t demand I pull mine up over my mouth.

    It might be because I’m super attractive, and my unmasked visage demands respect, but maybe that’s what Joan of Arc suffered for her faith and our beauty.

    • slumbrew

      We don’t hate you because you’re beautiful.

      • commodious spittoon

        I mean, I would.

      • MikeS

        And do when no-one is looking, I assume.

    • rhywun

      I haven’t worn one food-shopping for several months, since NYC said it was optional. It might be “required” again now; I have no idea. I wore one to the liquor store until a week or two ago but stopped and the guy hasn’t said a word.

      If I am commanded back to the office (again) I would have to decide whether to kick it up a notch and go without on public transportation. But it is a major reason I refuse to go back to the office now.

      • commodious spittoon

        It’s what upsets me more than blind compliance… the nonchalant obedience. Makes me think we’re thoroughly into soviet mindset

    • Mojeaux

      Hey, you! The other day, I realized I hadn’t seen you in a while. Nice to know you’re still as feisty as ever.

      • commodious spittoon

        I’m still not sure who or what your avatar is. Ages ago, mom had up a painting we called the green lady, and it reminds me of that. It was a woman painted in a sea-green or maybe turquoise color, but it seemed like a geisha, or maybe that’s just how I interpreted it.

      • Mojeaux

        Malificent. I use this avatar in October.

      • commodious spittoon
    • Gustave Lytton

      I drive all over the state. I’m tired of trying to guess how much a random establishment is going to care if I wear a mask or not. Signs on the door are meaningless. Location is mostly meaningless. Add to that I’m on my employer’s time and (nominally) both representing them and liable to my employer’s policies.

  16. straffinrun

    No midweek zoom for my commute?

    • westernsloper

      If you want to shit talk me for about forty minutes I could try to figure out how to start one on my free account. As of today I am on vacation.

      • straffinrun

        I got about half hour left。

      • Tulip

        see below – comment 22

      • westernsloper

        Ya, I tried. I could start a meeting but fuck me if I knew how to share it.

    • commodious spittoon

      Isn’t your commute a bullet train interrupted by a sake house?

      • straffinrun

        Wait, they have sake houses?

      • Sensei

        He meant hostess club.

      • commodious spittoon

        Served to you by Mariko, who’s in an unfortunate broken marriage with her husband, but is very open to a relationship with a westerner….

        All my knowledge of Japan comes courtesy of James clavell

      • commodious spittoon

        Her daimyo husband, mind you

      • commodious spittoon

        The rest of my knowledge of Japanese culture is informed by Grave of the Fireflies

      • commodious spittoon

        Even now I have to wonder whether the CCP had a hand in this, and aren’t we all wondering? And if not, why not?

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      Nice!

    • rhywun

      Looks like you done right.

    • pistoffnick

      Happy Birthday, Stillhunter

    • Mojeaux

      Happy birthday!!!

    • Sean

      Is there a pistol under the shirts?

      Happy birthday.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Nice! And a happy belated birthday!

    • Gender Traitor

      The one on the right is great! Happy (Belated?) Birthday! Haven’t linked this one for a while. [Disclaimer: Please disregard “today” if not applicable.]

  17. MikeS

    Request for help from Glib accountants and small business owners: I’ve seen two conflicting articles about Quickbooks Desktop. Is it still possible to get the standalone license version through an authorized reseller, or has it officially become subscription-only with the 2022 version?

    • DrOtto

      I’m still using a 2015 version.

      • The Last American Hero

        Hence their switch to a subscription model…

    • Zwak, sensual panzer

      I tried it, as a small business owner, and I ended up just keeping my own books. It wasn’t too hard for what I did, advertising, but I can see it being hard for some sort of retail. But I thought QuickBooks desktop sucked. And as far as I know, it was subscription only. Like pretty much every other bit of software these days.

      • DrOtto

        2015 isn’t subscription based, but I think the newer versions are. I agree it sucks, I basically just use it for a client database and to summon up the numbers my accountant needs.

      • Zwak, sensual panzer

        I used Access for the Db, as the only other thing it is good for is printing labels. I used my CC for everything I paid for, and my business bank account worked great for what I was paid.

        KISS. Most people create more problems than solve them.

      • rhywun

        You’d be surprised how far Access can carry you in business. I was still maintaining multi-user shit I wrote in the late 90s almost 20 years later.

      • rhywun

        OTOH it was a gigantic headache and I would never, ever consider using it for another project again, but….

      • Ghostpatzer

        Mornin’. Been a while since my DBA daze, does Access still have the 2GB size limitation? I have fond memories of provisioning an MSSQL instance for a user who had installed some accounting package with an Access back end because MSSQL required a (paid) license. When he hit the limit about a year later, all hell broke loose. Provisioning the instance was no big deal, but getting the data out of Access was another story.

      • rhywun

        does Access still have the 2GB size limitation?

        It did when I stopped using it in the late 00’s.

        I can’t slam it too much. I leaned how to SQL on it and I suppose it’s decent for a small company. But my company outgrew it eventually.

    • Stillhunter

      No real experience with Quickbooks. I used Wave, which was free and it worked fine. Some functions are paid, like payments and payroll. I was the lone employee and didn’t take electronic payments, so I never needed that.

      https://www.waveapps.com/

    • The Last American Hero

      My understanding is that the new desktop version will require a subscription and support for older versions will expire in a year or two. If all you use it for is bookkeeping then you can get by with an older version for a while. If you use QB as a payroll processor then you may be screwed. Note that the subscription fee isn’t that high.

      • MikeS

        I don’t consider $350/year to be that low, either. Of course, I’m sort of a tight ass.

    • Ownbestenemy

      We got the desktop version and it seems if you want anything beyond the basic bookkeeping, they push those as subscription addons.

    • Chafed

      I don’t know. FWIW, I went with their subscription plan 2 or 3 years ago and have been happy with it.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      See if you can find an older edition of Postbooks. It was an open source alternative that you could customize through scripting.

      The developer switched to a different business model a couple of years ago and stopped offering updates to the freeware version, but it was a quite capable package at the time.

  18. Emmerson Biggins

    It’s good on basically any taco that already has meat on it. Not that different than pickled onions. Start small, increase to taste.

  19. Gustave Lytton

    From the dead thread. I already knew my coworker was not to be trusted. That’s why when he asked who XYZ was, I hedged on a name or confirmation that it was really him. I get that my company has a (idiotic) mask mandate. Just go up to the person and say something. Instead my coworker asshole wants to send an email and put several layers of management chain on it.

    The guys a kid and seems to be a prime example of not enough bullying in childhood. He desperately needs an ass whooping in the parking lot after work as was the occasion back in the day for an antisocial POS.

  20. Mojeaux

    So speaking of caramelized onions, I’m upset that I was introduced to French’s caramelized fried onions flavor, and then they discontinued it. Why does everything *I* like have to be discontinued? I mean, they already replaced lime Skittles with green apple. ? Don’t know what I did to anger the crap food gods. Also, they canceled Dead Like Me.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      I hate green apple.

      /fistbump

    • rhywun

      And they replaced lime Starburst with cherry. ?

      • Mojeaux

        *gasp* They did NOT! Really?! ?

      • rhywun

        Yeah, when we were like eight years old.

        To be fair, I don’t eat that shit any more but still.

      • MikeS

        I don’t recall lime ever being in a Starburst package. I think I might prefer it to the crappy cherry,

      • Mojeaux

        I vaguely remember, but Starburst has never been my drug of choice.

      • rhywun

        IIRC it was originally in a white package, with lime.

        Sometime in the very late 70s the package became yellow and lime became cherry.

      • Mojeaux

        Thank heavens for fruit tootsie rolls.

      • rhywun

        I used to group and sort them so that I ate my favorite (strawberry) last in each batch of four.

        Pretty sure I did the same with green M&Ms.

        This explains so much about me.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        I used to do that with jelly beans.

    • l0b0t

      What Mojeaux said! (wipes back a tear in remembrance of Coconut Yoo Hoo)

    • Akira

      Why does everything *I* like have to be discontinued?

      I used to get my groceries from Meijer due to it being very close to my apartment, but then I moved to a different apartment and switched to Kroger. A few months later, I went back to Meijer for some items that they only had there (a certain kind of hair pomade, blackcurrant jam, etc.) but they were all gone. I seriously think I was the only one buying them, and when I stopped shopping there they stopped carrying them.

    • Akira

      Damn, RIP indeed.

      I used to get his book Hatchet from the library at school week after week (since they told me I had to get at least one book). I came to really like it.

    • rhywun

      Indeed, sources within the FBI have confirmed that the FBI’s most-wanted list is entirely parents at this point, from Cindy in Ohio to Amy in Wisconsin.

      OMG LOL

    • MikeS

      And every employee of the Bee was never seen again.

    • Chafed

      Ka-Boom!

    • robodruid

      That’s going to leave a mark…

  21. Chafed

    Quiet night. Is Brochettaward still trying to push out his massive first?

    • rhywun

      I dunno but I just pushed out a massive second.

  22. Akira

    Good read Tulip! I love some kraut myself. Henstenberg brand is my go-to, but I’ll have to try again at making my own (I attempted it many years ago when I was inexperienced with cooking, but it did not come out right).

    This could be particularly useful since recent economic and political events might make it necessary to rely on ourselves a hell of a lot more. Food production is a big one. Some very poor people can still manage to plant cabbages, shred them, and ferment them in jars.

    • hayeksplosives

      Squeee!

      Looking forward to meeting up with my liberty loving Nevadians!

  23. Ownbestenemy

    Quite interesting. AA had some 500 flights canceled today but it’s midweek so Impact of course is not as profound.

    • Tres Cool

      Well, its Alcoholics Anonymous. Im sure those 500 people went on a bender.

      • Ghostpatzer

        Hey, I’m still sober! *Hic*

  24. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam

    yo whats goody

    • limey

      The weather, praise be. I can’t really achieve much today before it’s back to crappy work tomorrow. So frustrating.

    • hayeksplosives

      Hey, tres.

      Not much is up in these parts (SoCal).

      Professional movers came and boxed up almost all my worldly possessions so I’m now in a hotel room with a freaked out cat and a stoned spouse.

      I wish I could sleep but my brain is too busy.

      • Tres Cool

        Im trying to think of a joke….got nuthin’.

        I slept in yesterday, so I got up around midnight. Ive been drinking beer, doing laundry and cleaning-up the Palatial 2X-Wide in anticipation of Jugsy’s triumphant arrival tomorrow to Chez Tres.
        She gets Shot #2 (the one with the nanoparticles) on Saturday, so in anticipation of feeling unwell, she took time off next week.

      • hayeksplosives

        Well, at least Jugsy will be wrapped in loving arms as she copes with her new inoculation/indoctrination.

      • Tres Cool

        Yeah. Her boxer-doge, The Dozer.
        I gotta work the next 4 nights.

      • hayeksplosives

        Doggo will keep her warm for ya!

  25. limey

    Hello and good morning, Glibs.

    I’m not a fan of ze kraut. I just don’t like the smell, and I don’t really get the big deal about the taste ?‍♂️

    Meh. Maybe I haven’t had the right kraut experience. It seems like more of a meat-exclusive side dish so perhaps I’m missing the point.

    • limey

      I remember liking kimchee.

      • Tres Cool

        As Ive grown older and my palate has refined, I can appreciate kraut and sausage. Ideally on a (low-carb) bun while Im watching football and drinking beer.
        Kimchee is something I dont mind either, but Ive never felt compelled to eat it often.

      • limey

        Maybe I’ll come around to it.

      • TARDis

        You don’t like the smell of sauerkraut, but kimchee is okay?

      • limey

        The kimchee I remember is that served to me in Korean restaurants, whereas the sauerkraut I remember has been homemade.

      • TARDis

        We had a guy who insisted on eating kimchee from a jar, in our work area. He was ordered not to. Live your glory days of Korea at home, air-man.

  26. Tres Cool

    DING!

    Hubba-Hubba-Hayek’s moving experience made me think of something…

    “My ex-wife wasnt much of a wrestler. But man, you shoulda seen her box!”

    TAH-DAH!

    /ex Ms Tres was, in her time not spent as HS english teacher, an amateur boxer

    • hayeksplosives

      Wah-wah!

  27. TARDis

    On topic:
    My dear mother passed down her sauerkraut side dish recipe to my wife the first time she came to visit us. For two almost two decades, no one in the family would eat it but me. This made me sad because whenever I bring a batch to work, it gets inhaled like crack. People would ask me for the recipe, but I don’t have it. My wife does. Finally, my son has come to like it. My wife says she will try making a batch sans bacon for my daughter to try. The funny thing is, it’s not that complicated. My wife showed me her “secret” recipe card files from my mom. We both laugh at one of the ingredients my mom wrote. WTF is “good water”?

    • limey

      I got so used to drinkable water coming right out of the tap (faucet) that the first time I went to Italy I completely forgot the advice about not drinking the tap water in that particular building/area l, and downed a whole glass before I remembered. As it happens I was totally fine.

      I imagine the suitability for kraut will have a lot to do with pH and hardness??

      • TARDis

        pH and hardness??

        That seems logical. i don’t know why my wife never asked her. For us good water is filtered and cold from the fridge.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, the stuff coming out of my mom’s tap after they moved to the country was definitely not “good” water. Every time you made coffee or took a shower the smell of rotten eggs filled the double-wide.

    • Tres Cool

      My grandmother had a chocolate cake recipe (handed to my Father) that calls for ‘scalded milk’. Its essentially the same thing on the back of the Hershey’s cocoa can, but old enough (or country enough) that pasteurization wasn’t yet ‘de rigueur’.

  28. Sean

    “Low carb people – look away.”

    I feel othered. ?

    • Tres Cool

      /hugs Sean

      • TARDis

        *looks at low carb beer list on the internet* Blech.

        Get a room you man-touchers!

      • Tres Cool

        /chugs Milwaukees Beast Light #8

    • Tres Cool

      “A 24-year-old Turkish woman who stands 7 feet, 0.7 inches tall has been confirmed as the world’s tallest living woman by Guinness World Records.”

      /adds her to bucket-list

    • hayeksplosives

      Weaver syndrome. Never heard of it before! I had assumed Marfan’s.

      Poor thing will probably die young. Live it up, lady! And get the fuck out of Turkey to do so.

      • TARDis

        Poor thing will probably die young

        My first thought. 🙁

        Also, I would hate to be famous for something I had no control or responsibility for.

      • TARDis

        Well that’s good, at least.

        But Wiki:

        Their adult height is normal as well.[ᶜᶦᵗᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿ ⁿᵉᵉᵈᵉᵈ]

        Wut?

      • hayeksplosives

        Maybe it’s a new syndrome?

      • TARDis

        It hard to tell from other photos. The key thing seems to be abnormal growth in many parts of the body. Maybe excessive height is not the primary issue. I dunno.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        “With appropriate treatment and management”
        Doubtful she got or will get that in Turkey.

  29. hayeksplosives

    Damn.

    Tuesday night I told my spouse that I was not taking that giant pot bud that he had been given by a “friend” across state lines.

    His solution was to EAT it. Not smoke it, but to eat it.

    So here we are 24 hours later. He still reeks of it. Sweat, saliva, pee, poop—- it just exudes from him. I have never been so unattracted to him. I just want to throw him in the brig for a few days to detox.

    The fact that I had to do all the useful work Wednesday for the pack and ship didn’t help.

    Okay, I am done with my martyrdom now. As you were.

    • TARDis

      I was going to ask, but I thought better not.

      Since, you’re here, I wanted to thank you for the diorama gift idea from It-lee. I’m not sure if you saw my post about it.

      Anyway, I thought it was going to have to be a Christmas gift instead of a birthday one, but it arrived already.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Eating it gives a longer lasting buzz and really allows you to stretch your weed dollar. Good on him for being frugal I say.

      • Tres Cool

        Im wondering why she’s smelling his p00p. I thought she was norse, not german.

      • hayeksplosives

        Dood, it’s a hotel room. No barriers on scents.

    • Festus

      He done that on purpose.

  30. Tres Cool

    For Hayek et al, je te presente The Dozer.

    Thats the face only a hooker could love, and quite a sight 1st thing in the morning/evening before work.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good doggo!

      Good morning, homey and assembled severaltude!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think he’s telling you to pick up your dirty clothes.

      • Tres Cool

        In my defense, that pile (which is gone) was primarily Jugsy’s clothes and a stack of pillows.

        *objects in mirror may seem messier than they are

    • l0b0t

      I love that your old PT t-shirt is still in rotation. Mine would be but it was among some of my favorite items that got stolen from a laundromat.

      • Tres Cool

        I love that you assholes scour the background for details to nit-pick at. Which is exactly what I do, too.

        Thats not my OG pt shirt- Its like the 3rd one Ive picked up off ebay or something. Im proud of my service, my branch, and grey suits me. Matches my hair.

      • Festus

        Because of course that had to happen. I’ve had bags of trash stolen from the bed of my truck.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Mornin’ all. Nice doggie, would not want to piss him off.

  31. UnCivilServant

    Morning, Glibs.

    I know my adventures with plastic crack are not the most interesting topic of conversation, but this is more of a story of not giving up, and of choosing to rise to the challenge presented.

    One miniature I bought while in Texas at a convention (remember those things) years ago always daunted me. I’d take one look at the riot of details and balk. “It’s too much” I’d say “Too hard to paint”. It was a problem exacerbated by the first time I tried to paint it before despairing. The primer coat was spotty, and the cape was sloppily done. Luckily I had stopped that attempt after the cape in despair. I say luckily because it means I hadn’t gotten anything gumming up the fine detail areas during that attempt.

    Yesterday, I dusted it off (Literally) and said “I am not only going to paint this bastard, but I am going to do my darndest to make it as close to masterpiece quality as I can. I am not going to be beaten by a one and a half inch tall piece of plastic.

    So far I’ve used twelve different paints in getting this thing to look right (and some areas are already looking gorgeous), with at least five more needed to finish the job. Now, I’m no Golden Demon grade painter, but I’m just happy to have not given up and will have gotten something accomplished.

    • Gender Traitor

      Bravo! Post pics when done?

      I did that with a knitting project once. Set it aside for years after not understanding how to make a fancy stitch. Finally picked it up again and got quite a magnificent sweater out of it, if I do say so myself. (Sadly, it’s acrylic yarn, and hot as hell to wear, so it doesn’t get out much.)

      • UnCivilServant

        I pretty much have to since I told everyone about it.

        I’m only a third of the way done at best. I deliberately left the pauldrons for later, and haven’t finished the detail on the torso. The head’s done, and I even got the eyes.

      • Tres Cool

        Good on ya.
        Carpe figurine.

    • TARDis

      I am not going to be beaten by a one and a half inch tall piece of plastic.

      That’s the spirit! Kick its ass, UnC.

    • Festus

      I’d like nothing more than to see that grifting family die in a car wreck caused by Joe Biden in his Trans-Am.

      • Festus

        Sorry, pretty dark but I’m in a dark frame of mind today. I’ll try to build back better.

      • Ghostpatzer

        “I’ll try to build back better.”

        How about they all die of Breakthrough infections? There, that’s better.

  32. Ghostpatzer

    Another NBA star goes off the reservation. What are they feeding these guys?

    https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/10/njs-kyrie-irving-talks-about-nets-decision-to-move-on-without-him-i-know-the-consequences-of-my-covid-19-vaccine-stance.html

    ““(Irving) was willing to sacrifice, at the end of the day, $16 million in salary this upcoming year and $186 million as far as an extension that he will not be offered now.””

    “This is my life. I get to do whatever I want with this, this is one body that I get here. And you are telling me what to do with my body. … This has everything to do with what is going on in our world. And I am being grouped into something that is bigger than just the game of basketball. … It is not about being anti-vax or about being on one side or the other. It is just really about being true to what feels good for me. … I know the consequences of the decisions that I make with my life.”

    He probably won’t need a GoFundMe, but still…

    • UnCivilServant

      I would love to have ‘fuck you’ money.

      The state released the test part of the “vax or test” policy. Looks like they have to foot the bill, and they actually acknowledged the existence of medical and religious objectors.

      But they left out two key items – what happens if you get a positive, and what happens if you simply don’t comply whatsoever.

  33. Festus

    Sauerkraut is easy. Ceramic pot, layer the cabbage with salt, punch down as needed, skim the scum off the top. You can keep it quite safely in mason jars using the cold bath method. We still have some from years ago.

    • Festus

      Rueben sammies with horseradish mustard are the food of the Gods.

      • db

        Never tried one with horseradish mustard. I feel like it would be really really tasty. But doesn’t a true Reuben require Thousand Island dressing?

      • rhywun

        I’m not a big fan of Thousand Island so this replacement sounds wonderful to me.

      • Mojeaux

        Russian, but 1,000 Island is close enough.

  34. Festus

    So the Feds blinked when their largest union told them to go fuck themselves regarding mandates. I’m not of their cohort but adjacent. Makes me happy!

    • Festus

      My company remains silent on the issue.

  35. Enough About Palin

    “What to do with Sauerkraut”

    Sell it and use the proceeds to buy kimchi.