Thursday Morning Links

by | Nov 4, 2021 | Daily Links | 625 comments

A solid career

Liverpool and Man City both cruised to an easy win in their UCL day 4 matches.  The former have locked up their group with two matches to go. Aaron Rodgers has got the covid. He found out he had it after testing positive. Otherwise he’d have had no idea. And people are freaking out. That drunken idiot from the Raiders who killed somebody was going 156 mph right before he hit her. And the Cleveland Browns are imploding off the field as well as on it. I have no comment on the first CFP rankings. It’ll work itself out. Also, Buster Posey is retiring. And that’s sports.

The pancake king!

Humorist Will Rogers was born on this day.  He shares it with early baseball great Bobby Wallace, tractor inventor Harry Ferguson, newsman Walter Cronkite, actor Art Carney, brewer Freddy Heineken, shortstop Dick Groat, singer Delbert McClinton, former First Lady Laura Bush, actress Markie Post, race car driver Jacques Villeneuve, actor Ralph Macchio, actor and car pitchman Matthew McConaughey, musician Sean Combs, and football great Orlando Pace.

Ok, moving on to…the links!

I assume this lady already became an ex-pat. Otherwise, she’d be dead by now.

You LOVE to see it!

Uh, because they’re starting to get it and they’re no longer listening to their community “leaders”.* Sorry, ABC. I know it kills you to see so many people rejecting your idiotic propaganda. (In case any of you didn’t know, they’ve been on an anti-gun rampage for a week running now.) Hopefully this trend continues.

*Leaders who mostly have private armed security, I might add.

This actually sounds plausible. Unfortunately, they’re leaving it ambiguous as to who could have done it. My guess is in order to make it seem like some right-wing nut came on set and did it. But the most likely culprit would be a disgruntled union employee that had been bitching about the working conditions before walking off.  But either way, that doesn’t absolve the people who are supposed to check weapons and those who are supposed to maintain absolute custody of any weapon or ammunition on the set.

“We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.” Un-fucking-believable.

Hilarious

I saw it. And it was glorious. Can’t wait for next year and Meltdown 2: Beginning of the Boogaloo.

Oh, this was an epic beatdown at the court. I wish they could issue their ruling tomorrow. Unfortunately, we’ll have to wait several months.

So much for protecting and serving. Unfortunately, taxpayers will foot the bill for the lazy negligence of these officers.

“It’s sure to work this time,” said the people whose policy has never fucking worked ever.

I’m pretty happy to be living in Texas right now. Well, mostly. I wasn’t a fan of the bond issue. But 7 of 8 ain’t bad.

More horns in today’s musical selection!  Man, gotta love that sound. Enjoy it.

And enjoy your Thursday, dear friends!

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  1. PieInTheSky

    I saw it. And it was glorious. Can’t wait for next year and Meltdown 2: Beginning of the Boogaloo. – meltdowns are understandable when racism wins

    • AlexinCT

      Whycome racism always win when team blue, no matter how despicable what they are doing is, loses? Inquiring minds want to know…

      • PieInTheSky

        It is obvious really Democrats won last time there. Biden won there. The guy was ahead I think most time. Until he said parents should not have a say in their children’s education. Then he lost. But everyone knows caring for your child’s education is a racist dog-whistle

      • juris imprudent

        Of course they have to call it racist, they can’t call it what it really is – the nature of the therapeutic state. The benevolent workers of the state, well credentialed and even better intentioned, are clearly better positioned to do what is right than the dirty populace they oversee. It is their burden to lift up that populace, to be like they are – well credentialed and even better intentioned. That is progress, and everyone can see that, but of course some reject it because they are essentially bad, irredeemable humans. It would be even better if those kind of people weren’t allowed to procreate, but we haven’t gotten to that point, yet.

      • db

        Psychiatry was inextricably linked with Progressivism, so of course it was/is racist, eugenecist, and elitist to its core.

      • DEG

        Apropos wiki page.

        Though…. we do have at least one psychiatrist here who is solidly libertarian.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I didn’t know there was a Glib shrink*!

        *no offense intended

      • SDF-7

        Well, when it gets cold….

      • Plisade

        “I was in the pool!”

      • db

        Weird… I wrote a response and it got disappeared.

        I’m not saying all psychiatrists are evil. Just that psychiatry has a history of being associated with evil philosophies and activities.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “Like a frightened turtle!”

      • Mojeaux

        @TO’G

        C. Anacreon

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Huh. I thought he was an ER doc. …Oh.

      • DEG

        db:

        I’m not saying all psychiatrists are evil. Just that psychiatry has a history of being associated with evil philosophies and activities.

        Got it. I read a little too much into it.

        Toxteth: C. Anacreon is an ER doc who is a psychiatrist. Lots of emergency psychiatry cases out there. I’ll let him toot his own horn…

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        DEG: Ja, I get it in retrospect.

      • waffles

        I’m kind of stoked for CRT to become this poisoned brand the democrats won’t be able to get rid of. Finally making some hay of the tired “democrats are the real racists”.

      • db

        They’ll drop the label like they dropped “global warming” in favor of “climate change.” The underlying rot will continue under another name.

      • db

        And it will empower a new generation of grifters skilled in spinning the new narrative.

      • Rebel Scum

        They already equate it to a “proper teaching of American history”, so yeah. Slap a new name on it and they will proceed.

  2. Count Potato

    Oh noes, not negroes with guns!

    • AlexinCT

      You should see what lib gungrabbers do when you inform them that’s why gun grabbing started…

      • Count Potato

        I have. Facts are like water on a duck’s back.

      • juris imprudent

        I would’ve said like throwing eggs against a brick wall – you’re not going to unsettle any of those bricks.

      • Nephilium

        /looks around for a hard boiled ostrich egg

    • PieInTheSky

      I blame the Virginia lieutenant governor woman

      • AlexinCT

        Watcha talking about Willis? Don’t mess with that lady!

  3. PieInTheSky

    And the Cleveland Browns are imploding – the Cavaliers look better than expected

    • sloopyinca

      Really? I hadn’t even noticed to see what was happening at UVA.

      • PieInTheSky

        you know I am talking about proper sports

      • AlexinCT

        Sport fucking?

      • Not Adahn

        I hadn’t even noticed to see what was happening at UVA.

        Gang rapes at frat parties. You know, the usual.

    • Nephilium

      Meh.

      At this point, the Browns are the team for Cleveland, for better or worse. I’m not sorry to see OBJ go, I just wish we were able to get something for him before the trade deadline.

      There’s still drama going on about the Cleveland Guardians Baseball Team that may set them back a couple years on a name.

      • PieInTheSky

        Should just go for Cleveland Brahmans

      • AlexinCT

        Cleveland Steamers is already taken?

      • EvilSheldon

        That really should have been one of the teams in Baseketballs.

      • C. Anacreon

        My Name Is Cleveland Brown
        And I Am Proud To Be
        Right Back In My Home Town
        With My New Family
        There’s Old Friends & New Friends & Even a Bear
        Through Good Times & Bad Times
        Its True Love To Share
        And So I Found A Place
        Where Everyone Will Know
        My Happy Mustache Face
        This Is The Cleveland Show!

      • robc

        Is it really that fucking hard to just accept that they were always meant to be the Spiders?

      • Nephilium

        A similar article mentioned that the Guardian name didn’t generate a lot of love, and there was still more support for renaming the team the Spiders.

        The fact that a local team will be the Richest. Men’s. Roller. Derby. Team. EVER! still makes me laugh.

      • robc

        Spiders has potential for great logos. It has a baseball connection, as the eight legs represent the 8 fielders (the pitcher is the head). And there aren’t any competing pro teams with the spider nickname. And no local roller derby teams.

  4. PieInTheSky

    I assume this lady already became an ex-pat. Otherwise, she’d be dead by now. – Emma Raducanu is hotter is all I am saying.

    • Sean
    • rhywun

      She’s a “critical darling” in the US, FWIW. That means they drop everything and show her unless a higher-ranking critical darling is playing.

  5. Count Potato

    “Lawsuit alleges suburban police officers dropped off disoriented man”

    It’s OK when the Secret Service does it.

    • sloopyinca

      ::polite applause::

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      They have enough body doubles that it doesn’t matter what happens to him.

      /tinfoil hatter

  6. AlexinCT

    “We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.” Un-fucking-believable.

    Why is this unbelievable? If the FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA, and so on all can do this shit and get away with it, why can’t the Pentagon too? After all, these investigations all reflected negatively on the party that the mandarinate has decided should be in charge so they can keep doing what they do best: fuck us all over while looting the ship’s valuables as their ineptitude sinks it.

    • waffles

      Worse, they investigated themselves and found that they had hit the intended target. There was no mistake. Killing the children was the goal. That’s my most charitable reading of that statement.

      • AlexinCT

        The ops was not about killing any enemies, but scoring some kind of temporary victory to distract people from the ineptitude showed by a military that is now commanded by people that seriously tell you the greatest threats to the US are climate change and white supremacists. Not China. Not the fact they just gave the Islamic radicals a huge win with the botched up withdrawal. Not the fact that marxists are infiltrating every institution in our country – including the military – and undermining them all to bring down the US as it exists and leave us living in some version of Cambodia. No, none of those things.

      • SDF-7

        That’s just your white supremacy and climate change denial talking…

      • AlexinCT

        Much easier to shut the argument down with that accusation than actually defending the shit, huh? I get why people of low intellect and progressive beliefs (I repeat myself) like to do this sort of shit.

      • SDF-7

        First — I hope you got my original sarcasm there, sir. Just to be clear.

        Second — outside of the sarcasm, that’s exactly the angle they’ll use to not just shut down the conversation but present you as an enemy of the state because you’re not in step with them. Laying the groundwork and all. And yes, I know you know that… just being snarky. (Snarky? Here? Where’s my fainting couch again!)

      • AlexinCT

        Oh, I got the sarcasm loud & clear. I was elaborating on the sad fact that they will not see it as such.

      • Pope Jimbo

        They were OK with being seen as incompetent. The alternative was to be seen as week.

        Sadly, killing a bunch of nobodies was probably exactly what they wanted. It let the Taliban know we could drone them if things got too out of hand. If we had hit actual military Taliban targets they would have felt compelled to retaliate (same reason, they can’t seem weak).

        So kill a bunch of innocents it is!

      • AlexinCT

        They were OK with being seen as incompetent. The alternative was to be seen as week.

        They should have avoided been seen as a month! Bastages.

      • Pope Jimbo

        If you were young and hip like me Alex, you’d know that is how us kids spell it now….

    • juris imprudent

      You would think they could’ve at least found some Lt or Cpt to make the fall guy. I mean, they were obviously never going to hold a command-level person accountable.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Aren’t you the optimist!? An officer taking the fall? When there are perfectly good non-coms or even non-rates to blame? Those fuckheads never even went to college! How competent can they be?

    • ignoreLander

      FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA, and so on all can do this shit and get away with it

      Hell, how about every corrupt, jerkwater police department in the country. Internal Affairs anyone?

      Hey, you think you caught me embezzling from my company (that I’m about to fired from because I refuse to take your fucking jab)? Well, you know what, you can’t get involved because that “affair” is “internal”. I’m going to get my colleague and friend over here to “investigate” the “affair” and clear me of any wrongdoing, errrrrr — release his unbiased findings. But conclusions only, no evidence. Then the matters is closed, because FYTW.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Betrayal of a sacred trust

    n text exchanges with NPR for this story, Carlson accused the mainstream media of lying in concert with Democrats, saying his reporting showed there was no insurrection. And he pointed to coverage by NPR and other outlets in the immediate aftermath of the siege, as details were still emerging, to argue that the mainstream media intentional exaggerated the deadliness of the rioters.

    His series builds on rhetoric and interviews he has conducted on his show for months, accepting wholesale as true claims made by some of his past guests to fold them into a more sweeping narrative.

    “They’ve begun to fight a new enemy in a new war on terror,” Carlson warned his viewers in the first episode. “Not, you should understand, a metaphorical war, but an actual war, soldiers and paramilitary agencies hunting down American citizens.”

    Carlson is seeking to exonerate those Trump supporters accused of participating in the sacking of the U.S. Capitol. He calls them trespassers, at worst, and says the media has been lying about their acts and motivations.

    Carlson uses real developments as springboards to groundless and sometimes disproven conclusions, against a backdrop of ominous music and incendiary footage. President Biden’s administration has argued that domestic white supremacists pose a greater terrorist threat inside the U.S. than ISIS or Al Qaida. But his officials haven’t said they intend to hold them in Guantanamo Bay-like conditions or torture them as National Guards did to Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, though both were visually invoked by the documentary.

    Take it from NPR. Tucker Carlson and FOX news don’t deserve to be called journalists. Totally illegitimate.

    • AlexinCT

      At this point, they can’t just admit they were lying – again – and hurt the idiots that follow them even more. Desperation and the need to have an excuse to ignore the law (not that they won’t without, but they are still feeling they should have some cover) mandates that they stick to the lie there was some kind of insurrection.

    • Mustang

      “National Guards”

      Was this written by a Chinese bot?

      “Hello fellow national guards, we is to do the torturing today, yes?”

    • Count Potato

      “Carlson accused the mainstream media of lying in concert with Democrats”

      LOLOLOLOLOLOL

      “President Biden’s administration has argued that domestic white supremacists pose a greater terrorist threat”

      I prefer imported white supremacists because I’m classy like that.

      • Rebel Scum

        Has there been even one “white-supremacist” threat that didn’t glow as bright as the sun since that doddering, old fool seized the office?

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      President Biden’s administration has argued that domestic white supremacists pose a greater terrorist threat inside the U.S. than ISIS or Al Qaida. But his officials haven’t said they intend to hold them in Guantanamo Bay-like conditions or torture them as National Guards did to Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, though both were visually invoked by the documentary.

      Thats a bit too on point given some of the stuff rumored to be going on in the DC prison they’re being held in.

      • Ownbestenemy

        If those conditions are on the up and up, like the cages on the border, they wouldn’t be denying our/their representatives from observing. That should be an outrage, but it gets no coverage that people who are supposed to represent us are not allowed to see people that have been held with no-bail and I assume no trial dates?

    • SDF-7

      “the sacking of the U.S. Capitol”? Really? Hyperbole much there, NPR?

      “his officials haven’t said they intend to hold them in Guantanamo Bay-like conditions” — no, they just *have* held them in pre-trial solitary for months on end, denying bail and arguably abusing them. But they haven’t *said* they’re going to, right NPR?

      gobble gobble gobble indeed…

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      springboards to groundless and sometimes disproven conclusions

      Pot, meet kettle

      • juris imprudent

        How many times does it need to be said: IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN WE DO IT!!!!!!

    • rhywun

      against a backdrop of ominous music and incendiary footage

      ?

      LOL

      • db

        *AHEM* That’s mostly peaceful footage.

      • Rebel Scum
    • Not Adahn

      The thing that lets me know the “COP KILLAZ!” thing was a lie and not a mistake is that the “sourced” for that “information” has never been named.

    • Pope Jimbo

      white supremacists pose a greater terrorist threat inside the U.S. than ISIS or Al Qaida

      I actually agree with this statement.

      1) The threat of a terrorist attack from ISIS of Al Qaida is vanishingly small, so it isn’t much of a feat to be theoretically more dangerous than them.
      2) The actions of our ruling kakistocracy are so egregious that the risk of somebody taking violent actions is growing daily. And odds are that the violence will be done by a cracker because we are still a majority white country. And for sure whoever pops off will be accused of being a white supremacist.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        RE #2: I still hold to the prediction that somebody is gonna go postal because of the vax mandates between now and the end of the year, and that incident will be used to brand the unvaxxed “domestic terrorists”.

      • waffles

        It’s surprising that it hasn’t happened. Our dangerous domestic terrorists have remarkable restraint.

    • Rebel Scum

      sacking of the U.S. Capitol

      The War of 1812 was a long time ago. It’s time to move on.

    • Plisade

      “accepting wholesale as true claims made by some of his past guests” is somehow bad, and yet this is presented without qualification, “President Biden’s administration has argued that domestic white supremacists pose a greater terrorist threat inside the U.S. than ISIS or Al Qaida.”

  8. The Late P Brooks

    After the highly vaccinated region saw a backslide on the CDC map, UCSF’s Dr. Monica Gandhi, a leading expert on the pandemic, took to Twitter to deride the CDC framework, which she characterized as “outdated.”

    “A highly vaccinated place will always be at risk of being in these ‘tiers’ due to the outdated definition of the CDC’s metrics of community spread,” she wrote.

    She notes that the map is based on case rates and test positivity, but writes, “those metrics only made sense when mass asymptomatic testing was occurring prior to vaccination.” “After vaccination, per the CDC guidance, only those with exposures or symptoms should test so tests are likely to reveal positive cases, which is not a good measure of community transmission or spread,” Gandhi said.

    “So, if CDC doesn’t change this definition of community spread after vax, highly vax’d places (most likely to follow CDC) will be masking forever with this artifactual metric,” she concluded.

    Infidel! Heretic! SCIENCE! denier!

    BURN HER!

    • SDF-7

      Why, it is *almost* like they want to keep this perception of an out of control pandemic going on forever so they can keep using “emergency” powers.

      I am aghast! Where’s my fainting couch?

    • Not Adahn

      highly vax’d places (most likely to follow CDC) will be masking forever

      Feature, not bug.

    • Count Potato

      “I seem to have upper middle class taste”

      Because they make enough money to eat well, but not so much they ruin their blood?

    • AlexinCT

      I disliked the questions cause they never paired the food with the right drinks…

      • waffles

        Upper middle class.

        I think my taste has changed so much from when I was a kid in the sense that I pretty much eat anything. The only distaste that remains for me is that I am not a fan of alfredo sauces paired with any seafood option. I also don’t really like lobster enough to justify purchasing it over any other protein. I also love canned fish and a few other survival bunker type foods. I am not oblivious to class bias when it comes to foods, I just don’t care.

      • UnCivilServant

        Al Fredo was a spaghetti farmer.

      • AlexinCT

        The other Fredo still works at CNN?

      • Zwak, sensual panzer

        Waffles gets it. I am not a food person, and my biggest criterion for eating comes down to how much of a hassle I will put up with. Dinner with the wife? Lots of hassle, but not white table cloth hassle more than once or twice a year. By myself? Chinese buffet or drive through, maybe a brewery. And yes, I pretty much get the same thing each time, as I know I will at least be filled up when I leave.

      • Zwak, sensual panzer

        Alright, took the test and I am solidly middle class in my food.

        But, I straight up dislike cheese.

      • Mojeaux

        Lower class, but I’ve always said I have the palate sophistication of a 5yo.

        A lot of the stratifications seemed to be drawn at the seafood line. 2 types of oysters, mussels…? That’s not 3 different foods. That’s 3 different kinds of snot.

    • SDF-7

      Solidly middle class — of course the test is kind of strange in that “Ok but not passionate about it” is my default for a lot of things. And there are some things I had to Disagree strongly not because of concept, but just because I hate some flavors (can’t stand most vinegar and strong cheeses). That isn’t a class thing, just a personal taste buds thing.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Mine is pretty even from lower middle to upper class. No lower class stuff, which I assume is represented by mac and cheese.

      • Count Potato

        They need to distinguish between Kraft, which is crap (sorry, Canada), and baked macaroni and cheese, which is awesome.

      • UnCivilServant

        Especially my baked mac and cheese.

        Oooh, I bought more cheeses yesterday, I can make more.

      • AlexinCT

        Add some grilled spam, cooked peas, carrots, onions and garlic, and BAM, now you have a real delectable repast. Especially when paired with some bourbon sauce (both in the food prep and in a glass to drink).

      • Nephilium

        Spam? Why do that if you can afford bacon? As a bonus, you can use the bacon grease in the roux, and fry bread crumbs in bacon grease to put on top.

      • AlexinCT

        It’s not about the cost but about the flavor. While bacon or pancetta does even better, and even venison, beef, or lamb can be used to take it up a notch, spam is not a bad thing considering how it pairs with mac & cheese when baking it.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Ever since Alex started dating that gal in Minnesoda he has had hankerings for Spam – The Minnesoda Treat.

        Bacon grease tends to get all over the sheets and make a complete mess. Each can of spam has just the right amount of jellied fat to have all the fun you want without the mess.

      • AlexinCT

        Et tu, your holiness?

      • Rat on a train

        Home made mac and cheese with quality cheese, mmm.

    • rhywun

      I got 100% middle class.

      Probably skewed because I don’t like most seafood (except fish ‘n’ chips).

      • PieInTheSky

        how can you not like a nice oyster especially with a glass of bubbly

      • UnCivilServant

        Was the oyster fried and put on a Po Boy?

        And is that bubbly caffinated, or rotted grape juice?

      • AlexinCT

        Don’t hate on rotted grape juice man…

        And raw oysters are needed to help fend Whiskey dick…

      • UnCivilServant

        Snot on a Shell is a visual and texture I can’t get past.

      • AlexinCT

        Next you will tell me you also shun the culinary delight of eating ass…

      • SDF-7

        Easily? Don’t like oysters — don’t like wine, sparkling or not.

      • rhywun

        Meh, I grew up “lower class” so baby steps.

    • Drake

      Lower middle class. I never cared for oysters.

      • Count Potato

        Oysters used to be poor people food.

      • UnCivilServant

        Most food regarded as a ‘delicacy’ was “We’re starving and have to eat something. That’s something, lets eat it.” iat a previous point in time.

      • WTF

        Also lobster.

    • Rat on a train

      Lower through middle for me.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      I had no discernible social class. I like my comfort food but enjoy some of the finer things in life as well. IOW I’ll eat just about anything.

    • mock-star

      I got lower middle class. As a fatty-fatty-boombalatty, I picked that I like pretty much all that though.

    • Not Adahn

      “Your food choices could not be tied to any one social class”

      I also don’t have a “type” when it comes to women, so that’s not too surprising.

    • WTF

      Your food choices could not be tied to any one social class.

      Although the results did seem to be higher for “Upper Class” “Upper Middle Class”

    • robc

      Woo hoo…lower class, suck it the rest of yall.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Me too.The dishes and pictures were put together by idiots, though. Who puts lobster in grits? Crawfish/crawdads go with grits. Their chicken sandwich was chicken salad and pulled pork burger was a pulled pork sandwich.

      • UnCivilServant

        Chicken Salad is not the first thing that comes to mind when mentioning “chicken sandwich”.

      • Gustave Lytton

        No, but that’s what the picture actually was.

      • robc

        The pictures were turn offs in many cases.

      • CPRM

        I don’t like sweets and I may be allergic to some shellfish (had some issues with scallops a few years ago)

      • PieInTheSky

        Crawfish/crawdads go with grits. – sounds like a lower class opinion to me. At least looking down from up here

      • db

        I don’t look at the pictures, I read those things for the questions.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Main metric seemed to be willingness to eat exotic meat/seafood. And the gold ice cream is just tacky.

      • Nephilium

        Wasn’t that gold “frozen ice”, meaning that it wasn’t even ice cream? And not exotics, just shellfish and fancy desserts.

        And I’m assuming defrosted pizza is a frozen pizza.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Steak tartare is pretty exotic IMO. (insert Mr Bean clip here)

        Class by Paul Fussell (nonfiction) is pretty funny, if forty years old.

      • Mojeaux

        Raw meatlof = poor man’s steak tartare.

        Nom nom nom.

      • UnCivilServant

        We invented fire for a reason.

      • Mojeaux

        We invented fire for a reason.

        To stay warm and provide light.

    • db

      Your food choices could not be tied to any one social class.

      I’ll eat anything.

      “That’s rat’s asshole, Don.”

      “Well, it sure makes a hell of a fondue!”

      • slumbrew

        Same result.

        I always liked “chowhound” instead of “foodie” as the latter, to me, implies a certain snobbishness.

        I want that hot dog for lunch, with oysters & steak tartare for dinner – it’s all good.

        I think the only firm ‘no’ was ‘defrosted pizza’. The other negatives were the sweet things, just because I don’t like sweets.

        https://charts.idrlabs.com/graphic/food-choice?1&p=85.71,75,85.71,64.29,39.29&l=EN

      • slumbrew

        R.I.P.

        Chowhound was the shit before they junked the message-board format in 2015. There was so much quality content and dedicated users & CBS Interactive just flat-out killed it.

    • Rebel Scum

      Lower-middle class.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Your food choices could not be tied to any one social class.

      I do not discriminate against food.

    • Brawndo

      Kind of a dumb survey. I would eat any of that stuff, but I wouldn’t be willing to pay for most of it.

    • one true athena

      “Defrosted pizza”

      what? Do people thaw frozen pizzas and eat them without putting them putting them in the oven? I’ve never heard of this practice.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The AI that probably crawled the internet for photos and attributed a description screwed up.

  9. Rebel Scum

    The Iranian government said in a statement Wednesday that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) was foiling a US attempt to seize an Iranian oil tanker. …

    Sources said in reality, the Iranian forces took control of the Vietnamese-flagged oil tanker MV Southys on October 24 at gunpoint and still holds the vessel off Bandar Abbas.

    Should have sank one of the dinky Iranian patrol boats as a warning to the others.

    • AlexinCT

      She trying to convince some judge she should get hazardous pay for being forced to watch that crap?

      • Not Adahn

        She decided she’d rather bang Beckham.

  10. Rebel Scum

    What’s behind the rise in gun ownership for people of color?
    Black, Asian and Latino people are buying guns more than before.

    Self-preservation?

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, for some reason when you tell them you plan to defund the police and leave them victims of the criminal element you as a politician work hand in hand with (*Hi Beetlejuice!), they decide they need to be able to protect themselves suddenly. CRAZY, right???

  11. PieInTheSky

    Tim Dillon
    @TimJDillon
    Terry McCauliffe is a DNC hack who spent years feeding Hillary Clinton placenta McFlurries. I don’t know Glenn Dumpling and I don’t care. But stop with this being some great tragedy. Have a fall flavored baked good.

    https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1455929042385915904

    • AlexinCT

      So SugarFree is not really doing fiction? Dang…

  12. Rebel Scum

    Air Force Inspector General Lieutenant General Sami Said, who led the investigation of the strike at the direction of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, concluded the strike was “an honest mistake.”

    Oh, so no harm, no foul. Tell that to the families of the innocent.

    • AlexinCT

      They needed a distraction from the horribly botched event to make them look competent… Not like we have not repeatedly seen this behavior blow up in the face of the idiots that order this shit.

      • R C Dean

        Well, nothing distracts from incompetence leading to a double digit body count like incompetence leading to a double digit body count.

      • AlexinCT

        LOOK OVER HERE!

        (Provide a new disaster)(☞゚ヮ゚)☞

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Honest mistake

      So manslaughter? Negligent homicide?

      • Necron 99

        Murder? War crime?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Look I think the public needs to understand that drones and missiles are NOT magic.

      When you start exploding things lots of people are going to be killed. Some (many) of them will be innocents. If you don’t like that idea, demand that our military and politicians (I’m looking at you Obama) stop using them.

      The test for waging war should be: Are you ready to deal with a literal mountain of dead innocents? Including women and children? If you don’t want to see pictures of that, then don’t start any hostilities.

  13. rhywun

    What’s behind the rise in gun ownership for people of color?

    Sigh.

    Fear motivates some new gun owners

    OFFS!

    • juris imprudent

      Granted, fear is operating on someone tied to that story, just not the people buying guns.

      • rhywun

        Hyping the fake “Asian hate” crisis is peak NPR.

        What a bunch of [redacted].

    • AlexinCT

      Both.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Sigh. I’ll bite. What new genders are those? And what happened to the standard LGB?

      • UnCivilServant

        Ivermectin Hydroxycloroquine Zinc Plus.

        And Coronavirus got the rest.

    • SDF-7

      Will it cut into the fire hose of money for Pfizer and its ilk? If YES: Never….

      • Count Potato

        Well, Merck is pretty much the same ilk.

    • Drake

      So two-thirds as effective as Ivermectin and / or Hydroxycloroquine – at 100 times the price.

      • UnCivilServant

        I was figuring someone would package ivermectin, HCQ, Zinc, and some harmless other thing so they could patent the combo pill.

      • AlexinCT

        Isn’t that just roofies?

      • juris imprudent

        IP FTW!!!

      • Pope Jimbo

        You would think that given the money shoveled at Big Pharma as part of Operation Warp Speed, one of the conditions would have been that the public would own any resulting drug patents/formulas.

        What the fuck am I saying? I don’t remember Irishing up my coffee this morning.

      • DEG

        It might be a face saving way out of “vaccines, vaccines, VACCINES ÜBER ALLES!”

        Or maybe I’m being too optimistic.

    • Rebel Scum

      Merckmectin.

      I wonder if/when it will get approved here.

      Depends on who profits.

    • The Last American Hero

      You misspelled mandated.

  14. Rebel Scum

    “What is our rationale going forward? What do progressives need to do differently?”

    Stop being tyrannical, dishonest, destructive cuntes, for starters.

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, no. That’s a nonstarter with that crowd. The ask was how to better tell the lie and prevent the other side from undermining the messaging, not give up on the end goal of firmly placing a boot on the neck of the serfs.

  15. PieInTheSky

    A someone in a country where buying guns is not really possible, beyond all the talk of rights and stuff (which is off course most important), I don;t get how so many anti-gun people don’t see the simple fact that guns are fucking cool.

    • Nephilium

      /looks for the Eastern European firearm version of Joe Camel.

    • waffles

      Guns are fucking awesome, Pie.

      • AlexinCT

        Especially when your government decides they need to fuck you over because…

    • Drake

      You have it backwards. Leftist know that guns are fucking cool. Every action movie made in Hollywood is full of guns.

      They just don’t want us peasants to have such cool stuff.

      • Rat on a train

        Well, if they can’t be trusted to handle them properly, how could the peasants?

      • juris imprudent

        Pretty much what a fucking Supreme Court justice had to say on the subject. Fucking asshole Breyer.

      • db

        Guns instill in them a feel of danger, of risk, of fear, of naughtiness. In their way of thinking, it’s obvious that people should not be trusted with them, but it is the titillating nature of the feelings they get when they see guns that causes them to fetishize them and, ultimately, use them as symbols and plot elements in their entertainment products.

        To someone who handles firearms on a daily basis, those feelings don’t exist or are properly regulated. He/she is aware of the danger and risk, but takes control of his/her fear through familiarization and training, rather than cowering in fright at the mere sight of a gun.

      • DEG

        rather than cowering in fright at the mere sight of a gun.

        Fear is the mind killer.

      • db

        I guess if you’re going to take a gun into the shower, a cheap CETME will do, but you might want to spray it down with WD-40 afterward.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    “These Republicans are dangerous, that this isn’t a party that’s just another political party that disagrees with us on tax policy. That at this point, they’re dangerous,” Reid railed alongside Rachel Maddow.

    “They’re dangerous to our national security, because stoking that kind of soft white nationalism eventually leads to the hardcore stuff. It leads to the January 6 stuff.”

    Reid warned that a vote for Youngkin, who has been outspoken against teaching critical race theory in schools, would open the floodgates to “hardcore racism.”

    So tragic. Everybody with any sense knows Youngkin should be out in the countryside, slopping hogs in a dunce cap with a placard listing his many sins against Society around his neck, while the true revolutionaries whoop it up in the Capitol.

    Now the storm troopers will come to the studio to fit you for your chains.

    Elections have consequences.

    • Drake

      They are going to push racial division and white hate until they finally do get the bogey men they imagine.

    • juris imprudent

      Now the storm troopers will come to the studio to fit you for your chains.

      If it shut those two up, I’m damn near tempted.

    • Rebel Scum

      because stoking that kind of soft white nationalism eventually leads to the hardcore stuff.

      I’m sure the “everyone that disagrees with me is a terrorist” messaging will turn out well.

  17. Rebel Scum

    SCOTUS signals it will rule against limits on concealed carry in NY State because it goes against Second Amendment’s core right of ‘self defense’

    The words in 2A are very clear to anyone that is not trying to play games with language or flat out lie. So I imagine that the court will rule very narrowly with some contrived justification that does nothing for gun weapon rights based on a proper reading of the constitution.

    • AlexinCT

      How can you control the rabble if they are fucking allowed to arm themselves, huh? Do you do socialisms much, brah?

    • rhywun

      SCOTUS signals it will rule against limits on concealed carry in NY State

      My god, the heads exploding on CNN and MSNBC if that happens….

      • juris imprudent

        Who has the video skills to mash together these people with snippets from Mars Attacks!?

    • DEG

      Kinda like what Scalia did with Heller.

    • Brawndo

      Narrow rulings allow the state to just create a new law that will incarcerate gun owners that will take another few years to make it up to the SC

  18. The Late P Brooks

    What do progressives need to do differently?”

    Cease and desist from your non stop attempts to destroy the economy and debase the currency. That would be a good place to start.

    • AlexinCT

      They are not the only ones doing that. But yes, that is one thing they all should stop doing. What the left is otherwise doing – dividing the country and pitting people against each other for political gain – however, definitely needs to be stopped. They won’t do it however, because their belief is that if it used to work, you never give up on the tactic, even after the trick jumped the shark.

    • SDF-7

      I was thinking about this the other day — a scenario where we get a sane administration in and how well / how quickly they could undo the damage.

      I’m not sure how long / how well they could get the energy sector (and hence the foundation of the economy) back. Setting aside the inevitable crybaby lawsuits trying to stop anyone from doing anything that would be sure to happen — an administration couldn’t come in and try to restart Keystone XL, re-open public lands etc. because I would expect no one in their right mind would invest in such things given the flip flopping of the politicians and how fast one jerk judge or administration can just yank everything away. Then I stopped thinking about it because its just so God-awful depressing.

      • AlexinCT

        You assume that a sane administration would not be both undermined from within and resisted by the existing machine. At this point I wonder if all that is left is an industrial accident that rids us of the political class and the bureaucratic machine in D.C. so we have a chance to do a reset.

      • juris imprudent

        Nothing done well could be done quickly. Given the time limits of Congress and Administration – very unlikely you could ever see a good unfucking of how they have fucked us over. It would take too much time.

  19. Count Potato

    “The man accused of kidnapping Cleo Smith from a campsite in Australia was obsessed with Bratz dolls and had a room full of the toys in his house, it has been revealed, as he was formally charged with abducting the four-year-old.

    Terence Darrell Kelly, 36, appeared in court for the first time today to hear the charges, 30 hours after he was arrested in Carnarvon, Western Australia, on suspicion of kidnapping the four-year-old who was found locked in a nearby house.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10164271/Cleo-Smith-Accused-Terry-Kellys-alleged-Bratz-doll-obsession.html

    Not at all creepy.

    • PieInTheSky

      weird kidnapping a well kid… kids are inconvenient enough when your own why would you want someone else’s?

    • Drake

      Most people in the world have never been here.

    • Rat on a train

      How many of those countries have a major party that promotes racism like the US?

    • Rebel Scum

      Propaganda has consequences.

    • ignoreLander

      More people globally see racial, ethnic discrimination as a serious problem in the U.S. than in their own society

      Of course they do indeed. Because TMITE flogs relentlessly, ceaselessly, that we’re a racist hellhole. That big lie cancer spreads to the entire globe.

      • CPRM

        Just like they think ever American is a 500 pound person driving around on their mobility scooter shooting Uzis at anything that moves. I mean, that stereotype might be true for Glibs, but not the whole of the USA.

      • rhywun

        And the CCP, one of the most racist organizations on earth, is at the forefront of spreading it.

        You know, those same guys who got the ball rolling on convincing the world to impoverish itself.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Yeah…as ADV China keeps pointing out – accurately – US is probably (pound for pound) the *least* racist country in the world. China (and most others) is asshoe.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Oh, Tulsi.

    McAuliffe’s loss is a victory for all Americans. Why? Because it was a resounding rejection of efforts to divide us by race, the stripping of parental rights, and arrogant, deaf leaders. This benefits us all.

    • Brawndo

      I thought I was done liking Tulsi after her idiotic take on Carlson’s show about Islamic terrorism, but then tweets like this just pull me right back in.

  21. CPRM

    Aaron Rodgers has got the covid. He found out he had it after testing positive. Otherwise he’d have had no idea. And people are freaking out.

    The freak out on GB sports talk is about how he didn’t follow the rules! He’s unvaccinated! He Wasn’t following the rules! He lied! He said he was ‘immunized’! He’s a lying cheater! Shut up and DO YOUR PART! FOLLOW THE RULES!

    • Certified Public Asshat

      People are really losing it over the fact that he was on the sideline during a preseason game, wearing street clothes, but…NO MASK.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I really hope he makes defiant public comments telling everybody to get their panties out of a wad. I may actually change my opinion of the guy if he does that.

      • CPRM

        He spoke out against cancel culture on the Pat McAfee show already. But he’s still a douche nozzle. (I say this as a Packer fan)

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Speaking of, I watched the Horton/Kristol debate with the family. I had listened to it prior but wanted to see it.

        That asshat Kristol went through the entire debate and then put his mask on at the end like he was protecting himself or others from some imaginary risk.

    • Urthona

      Well it’s a rather funny and entertaining story.

      He said he was “immunized”.

      Turns out way Rodgers meant was his Gweneth Paltrow-esque girlfriend gave him some new age crystal bullshit treatment that was supposed to protect him.

      Then he spent months just doing whatever w/ the dumb media thinking hw was vaccinated.

      I lol’ed.

      • juris imprudent

        What a dumbass – it isn’t crystals, it’s a jade amulet.

        Doesn’t anyone SCIENCE!???

      • Brawndo

        Heh. I’ve been doing the same thing. People ask if I’m vaccinated, I say of course! They never bother to specify which vaccine though

    • Rebel Scum

      A disease so bad you have to have a fake test tell you that you have it…

    • AlexinCT

      Is this another UN group looking to use “protecting kids” as cover for raping them?

      • Count Potato

        It’s not a UN group.

        Although they are a “charity” on Amazon Smile.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s the Noah Berlatsky group, a guy who used to write for Reason.

        Prostasia calls pedophiles ‘minor attracted persons’ or MAPs, which is an undisguised attempt to rebrand pedophilia as a sexual orientation such as homosexuality. In the past, it has condemned Tumblr removing “MAPs’ and allies’ blogs”. In a post on its website, Prostasia went on to claim that removing such content would harm children.

        https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/meet-noah-berlatsky-prostasia-foundation-wonder-woman-rutgers-university-press-author-normalising-pedophilia/

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        There’s a good bit in the article about how Berlatsky pushes for understanding of MAPs while at the same time calling the parent/child relationship abusive. It sure reads like he’s seeking to free children of their parents’ controlling grasp so he can fuck them.

      • CPRM

        Used to write for Reason…into pedo stuff…perchance is he from New Jersey?

      • Count Potato

        “used to write for Reason”

        OFFS!!!!

      • waffles

        It’s become quite the rogues galley, hasn’t it?

    • Suthenboy

      That person talks too much. 90% of the sounds coming out of their mouth conveys no information. Just another Yootuber that loves the sound of their own voice. I am not going to waste 23 minutes for what I could get in 2 minutes.

      • waffles

        Tim Pool is the same. 3 minutes of content stretched to 30. Engagement whoring, it’s a game.

      • Mojeaux

        It’s the same on mommy blogs with recipes. 1500 words saying the same 3 sentences over again in different ways and tons of excellent photography to get down to the recipe.

        Lead with the prettiest picture and just give me the fucking recipe. Don’t need to know how much your kids love it.

  22. Rebel Scum

    Honk honk.

    Conservative news and commentary site PJ Media reports that Twitter locked its account for calling Rachel Levine, the transgender assistant secretary for health, a male.

    PJ Media shared a screenshot of a message from Twitter informing them that it must delete a tweet referring to Levine as a male before regaining access to their account.

    • AlexinCT

      Do not dare to defy the narrative! Or else…

      The more of this they do, the more they will have people realize how cuntishly evil they are.

      • Brawndo

        Or dickishly evil?

  23. The Late P Brooks

    “I don’t go out looking for trouble,” Clyde, who is now a member of the Asian Pacific American Gun Owners Association, said. “But to ignore the inconvenient truth that Asians are targets isn’t going to stop the attacks,” he added.

    Clyde is one of the many people of color who purchased a legal handgun last year, according to a number of gun trade groups.

    Guns make their own trouble, you fool. One of these days, when you’re not paying attention, that gun will jump into your hand and the bullets will be whizzing in every direction before you can say, “Make my day.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      They should just start referring to everyone as XX and XY.

    • Drake

      I am always a little taken aback when Asians are called POC. It just strikes me as weird.

      • AlexinCT

        From the ones I dated they too felt it was weird to be called that..

      • Not Adahn

        The only race that matters is white. Therefore there needs to be a euphemism for “non-white.”

        It’s the same thing as defining sexuality by whether or not someone likes dick.

  24. Pope Jimbo

    I understand now why Tundra moved away. Minneapolis is such a hateful place that the Trumpistas defeated a trans City Council member in Minneapolis. (The good news is that we still have one more trans person on the council).

    Turns out that backing the Defund the Police amendment was not a good career move. Four (out of 13) sitting council members lost their seats.

    Minneapolis voters ousted at least two incumbent council members Tuesday in an election that largely hinged on the future of policing after the murder of George Floyd and how best to address rising violent crime in the city.

    Candidates who opposed the failed public safety charter amendment — which would have replaced the Minneapolis Police Department with a Department of Public Safety and eliminated a requirement for the city to have a minimum number of police officers — appeared to have leads in several key wards.

    The story I linked to above is from the alternative proggie news web site. They actually did a pretty good job of laying out the fact that voters were not nearly as happy with the hijinx of the crazy activists as everyone had thought.

    The main newspaper in town led with Four Minneapolis council members who backed replacing police ousted, new progressives elected. Sadly that is an accurate headline. It isn’t like the replacements are actually sane. They just aren’t as crazy as the old ones.

    The headline writers had to make sure that their readers knew that they didn’t have to worry about being ruled by any icky moderates.

    • PieInTheSky

      Tundra moved away – are you sure?

      • Pope Jimbo

        He claims he moved to CO. I haven’t swung by his old house to verify he isn’t living there. So I think so?

        But to be fair, people have gone to far greater lengths in the past to avoid meeting me in real life.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The story I’ll be watching is how Frey and Omar deal with each other.

      Omar was front and center demanding anyone except Frey be elected mayor. Now that he has won – easily – I want to see if he might crack down on her political machine. Cut some funding from any nonprofits supporting her maybe.

      • AlexinCT

        Sounds to me like you people replaced some real fucking notjobs (and not enough of them) with a bunch of other nutjobs you think are not going to be as bad. I wouldn’t be surprised things keep going from bad to worse. But then again, the idiots that vote for these people are unable to understand the whole principle of cause and effect/action and reaction. The problem isn’t how crazy the progressive you elected is: it is that progressivism is crazy.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Another journalo grasping for straws after the trouncing progressives got in the last election: For the first time, the majority of Minneapolis City Council members will be people of color

      Wonsley Worlobah’s win as a Black Democratic Socialist, as well as victories from Payne and Chughtai in Ward 10 marks the most diverse council in Minneapolis history and one with a majority of people of color. Eight out of 13 members are people of color and six of them are Black.

      I look forward to the fights between the Social Democrats and those fucking splitters the Black Social Democrats!

      Also, looks like more races must have flipped since i checked yesterday. Now 7 of 13 seats went to the non incumbent. Smart people might notice that and correct course.

      • Fourscore

        “more races must have flipped”

        Is that “Race” races ? It’s the names of the new people that has me confused, more than ever, even. Why can’t we all get along or alone or a loan?

  25. PieInTheSky

    Jess Pryles
    @jesspryles
    Listen, I wasn’t planning on posting a picture. I grilled up some filets with zucchini and mushroom for a pretty casual dinner for me and the hubs. But then, I looked over at his plate and saw this complete gorgeousness and just HAD to share.

    https://twitter.com/jesspryles/status/1453884190055878658

    I need a ruling: slightly under-cooked or just right?

    • Festus

      That looks like a parasite bomb but delicious. “Blue rare” is a thing but I’ve only ordered it a couple of times.

    • Sean

      I’d eat it.

      I aim to grill to ~125 degrees ‘Murican at the center for steaks.

    • UnCivilServant

      Did they even put it on the heat yet? It looks like raw with dry rub.

    • CPRM

      Slightly over-cooked.

    • Not Adahn

      The unconverted connective tissue at the edge is not something I’d want to eat.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      There’s not enough charring on the outside to develop flavor. I’m in the reverse sear camp for cooking steak. Target 130 at center with nice browning on the outside.

      That looks like they wiped its nose, slapped it on the ass, and sent it out to the table.

      • db

        Reverse sear or sous vide for me, for sure. I think those are the way to go.

    • Rebel Scum

      That’s raw.

    • rhywun

      Slightly undercooked for me.

    • Aloysious

      “I need a ruling”

      That is an ugly plate. White is best. To show off the tasty food.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Grandpa used to say to Grandma, “I’ve seen cows hurt worse than this get well.”

        Flowered plates seem to be the trendy thing now.

      • Sean

        Vintage Corelle. 🙂

    • EvilSheldon

      Looks about how I like it. I agree that the edge fat could be rendered a bit more, but really being picky.

  26. Festus

    You fine folk get to sign up to keep and bear arms. I just signed up to bare my arm. I want to be an American.

    • Sean

      *hands Festus a 1911*

    • rhywun

      You fine folk get to sign up to keep and bear arms.

      Not all of us.

      • Not Adahn

        …yet

        *crosses fingers*

    • DEG

      Sorry Festus.

      I saw your posts on the last thread, which were after I went to bed. You do what you have to do.

      I’ll make the same offer to you I made to Rufus: If you can sneak across the border, you can hide out at my house.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    The freak out on GB sports talk is about how he didn’t follow the rules! He’s unvaccinated! He Wasn’t following the rules! He lied! He said he was ‘immunized’! He’s a lying cheater! Shut up and DO YOUR PART! FOLLOW THE RULES!

    I saw some of that idiotic squealing yesterday.

    It’s beginning to look like Green Bay may have bent the rules and given special treatment to their franchise QB.

    Cancel the season. Declare their games forfeit. Disband the team and bulldoze the stadium.

  28. db

    Re: Chinese Tennis Star Sex Charges: Have a look at the pic of Zhang Gaoli (the CCP official she claims pressured her into sex) and marvel at the comb-over on that creep. It’s more of a comb-around.

    • Festus

      “I say I say I say!”

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Anti-Black hate crimes rose nearly 40% from 2019 to 2020, according to the statistics. There were 2,755 reported incidents targeting Black or African American people in the U.S. in 2020, making this demographic the most targeted racial group by a large margin.

    If we fine tune the definition of “hate crime” sufficiently, every black person in America will be a victim.

    • rhywun

      Anti-Black hate crimes rose nearly 40% from 2019 to 2020, according to the statistics.

      Bullshit.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

      • Rebel Scum

        Maybe not. But it would be black on black.

      • ignoreLander

        Anti-Black hate crimes rose nearly 40% from 2019 to 2020, according to the statistics.

        Well, “hate crime” doesn’t exist, so you can take that out of the statement, and “anti-black” I’m assuming is any crime in which a black person was a victim. No word on the breakdown of the perpetrators of said crimes, but historically, the statistics say it was more likely to be another black person. Therefore, to distill this loaded statement down to some semblance of truth, what they are really saying is, in historically nigh-crime areas, in one year crime rose by 40%, likely due to the government reaction to Covid, and the reduction in police activity. Good one lefties.

      • rhywun

        Nah, I am taking them at their word when they say “hate crime”. That means not-black against black, specifically because that person is black.

        That’s complete bullshit.

    • WTF

      There were 2,755 reported incidents…

      Now tell us how many of those reports turned out to be hoaxes.

    • Suthenboy

      Yeah, I am calling bullshit on that.

  30. Nephilium

    Things may start getting more interesting for the police here in Cleveland. Issue 24 passed, which was a poorly written city charter amendment that moved police misconduct investigations from the police department and the city to a civilian review board.

    From the actual ballot wording:

    A “yes” vote supported amending the city charter to make changes related to police oversight, discipline, and policies, including:
    the creation of the Community Police Commission to—together with the Civilian Police Review Board—oversee police conduct investigations and discipline, report and advise about police-community relations, and oversee police training and recruitment;
    requirements that the commission be demographically representative of the city; and
    changes to membership qualifications and requirements for the Civilian Police Review Board to include attorneys with experience defending victims of police brutality, give the mayor instead of the police chief the authority to remove board members, and require the board’s budget to equal at least 1% of the police department’s budget.

    From the article (quoting the website of one of the organizations behind it):

    Under Issue 24, we propose that the Commission consist of 13 citizens that are broadly representative of the racial, social, economic, and cultural demographics of Cleveland. That includes racial minorities, immigrants and/or refugees, LGBTQ+ individuals, youth, faith, business, and other constituents. The Mayor will appoint all 13 members to the Commission, with approval of the Council by majority vote, for four-year terms following an application process. The Mayor will also be able to remove members for any malfeasance or gross neglect of duty, and other serious misconduct.

    • Sean

      What could possibly go wrong?

      🙄

    • rhywun

      Oh lord… do you think 13 pigeonholes is enough to cover all the bases?

      • Nephilium

        Hell, the actual wording of the amendment isn’t so bad. If I lived in the city proper, I would have probably voted for it. Not sure if the new (Democrat) mayor will make it a rainbow organization, or just a full up crony organization though.

      • rhywun

        I’m sure there are plenty of cronies to satisfy both requirements.

      • Not Adahn

        Well, until they get the bigger conference room built.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Will the review board be made of former cops and former prosecutors? I would prefer the use of inquest juries.

  31. trshmnstr the terrible

    I’m getting some baby sign language sass from the not-quite-one-year-old this morning. I told her to stop digging in her sister’s backpack, and she signed “more” and proceeded to keep digging in there.

    • db

      Is it too early to go full Sharia and take the offending hand off?

  32. CPRM

    brewer Freddy Heineken

    Yeah, I think I remember him, hell of hitter for them when they made the world series in ’82…

  33. Certified Public Asshat

    BREAKING: A Pentagon review concludes that the U.S. drone strike that killed innocent Kabul civilians and children in the final days of the Afghanistan war was not caused by misconduct or negligence, and doesn't recommend disciplinary action, @AP learns. https://t.co/PQ7HvbhMjg— The Associated Press (@AP) November 3, 2021

    TMITE.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Minneapolis voters ousted at least two incumbent council members Tuesday in an election that largely hinged on the future of policing after the murder of George Floyd and how best to address rising violent crime in the city.

    Have they considered paying people to not be violent criminals? I hear that is an extremely effective crime fighting tactic. You could also give everyone a basketball.

    • AlexinCT

      Stop giving these idiots ideas, brah.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Is it too early to go full Sharia and take the offending hand off?

    Just disable for a while Wrap it in duct tape.

    • db

      Gotta hand it to you, that’s the more humane solution.

  36. Rebel Scum

    White-supremacy takes aim at Georgia.

    “Georgia is next because I’m running,” Herschel Walker said in a phone interview on Wednesday.

    Walker also said of Youngkin’s win that he thinks it is a sign Americans nationwide “are waking up.”

    “Well, I was happy to see it. I think that people are waking up. I think people are getting tired of this. Here we go. They see what’s going on,” Walker said. “Let’s look at this economy. One of the things that they heard all during the election last year was this Keystone Pipeline, the Keystone Pipeline, Keystone Pipeline. I remember hearing our president say, ‘Oh, I’m not gonna cancel it. I’m not going to do anything. I’m not. I’m going to keep the jobs.’ Before he even got into office, he cancelled it. He made us rely on other people for all of our energy. We can be self-sufficient for ourselves and because of that, the prices are going out of the roof. Gas prices, you can’t get stuff on the shelves because you got to deliver. You see the ships out there? People are not working; people don’t have jobs because the government is paying them. So it’s a lot more than just people waking up saying, ‘wait a minute, something is not right here.’ And I think that’s what’s so great is people are starting to see that.”

    • AlexinCT

      Is Herschel the “NEW” new blackface of white supremacy?

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Pro-gun groups have set their sights on communities of color in recent years — but their outreach has hit an all-time high, as they promise protection to new gun owners, and quell stalling white gun ownership numbers, the NSSF says.

    So what you’re saying is it’s a trick to scare more white people into buying guns to protect themselves from the gun-toting colored folks?

    • Drake

      “set their sights on…”

      Are they using iron sights or scopes?

      • Festus

        That thing that goes up, silly!

    • Festus

      Oh those dastardly gun corps! Pitting the races against one another. We should do something.

      • Brawndo

        “That’s *our*job” -the media

  38. l0b0t

    Everything is collapsing, I have no way out, I’m so fucked. I’m swimming in debt, losing my job, and I just wrecked my truck. I want to walk off into the Atlantic and drift away.

    • AlexinCT

      Don’t give up lobot. Hold fast. These tribulations will pass.

    • Festus

      Stay with us, beloved Iobot! I’ve got some straws to share!

    • db

      Hold on–you have friends and options. You’ll get through this.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Hugs, hun. What happened with the truck? You physically OK?

    • Drake

      We are all taking a bite from this shit sandwich. Survive and do not lose heart.

    • Nephilium

      If there’s anything I can do to help… feel free to reach out.

      • Festus

        We (me and Judi) love you. I’m partial to you because you get my jokes. She likes you because you are kind. You are her favorite Glib and that is a very short list.

    • Sean

      Believe in yourself. You will get through this.

      Ask Glibs for help if you need it.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Hang on man. I’ve known otherwise very successful people who have had to declare bankruptcy and get on with their lives. They’ve all recovered and had good times afterwards. I understand that being in the middle of it sucks, but it can definitely get better if you stick with it,

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        This. There is always a way out, and usually it’s a better path than you came in on. As many have said already, lean on the Glibs if you need to. We’re here for you, and we’re not just saying that to be nice.

    • Count Potato

      Sorry, but hang in there.

    • l0b0t

      Physically fine but psychologically unwell. I feel like a complete asshole and failure. I’m losing my $300 per week job, I live in a corner of my ex’s living room, I spent the last of my savings (and borrowed against my $1900 401K) replacing the rear differential, and I’m about to turn 50 in 3 weeks.

      • AlexinCT

        50 is just another number. You will soon have to look forward to turning 60. And yes, you feel life sucks and you are low right now, but you have the choice to do something about it (and yes, it will be hard) or not. I hope you choose to keep on keeping on, cause the alternative isn’t good.

      • DEG

        This.

    • Tulip

      What happened to your truck? Please hang in there.

      • l0b0t

        I entangled my wee Rogue with a Jeep Rubicon sporting a giant steel aftermarket bumper… the Jeep won.

    • DEG

      Sorry l0b0t.

      Let us know what you need. We’ll help.

      • WTF

        ^ This. If you want to start a gofundme, let us know and many of us will contribute.

    • Tulip

      You know, you’re one of the most interesting people I know. The world would be a much poorer place without you. Please hang in there and reach out if you need help.

  39. Festus

    Nearly forty years ago to the day that I attempted to end my life quite quickly. I flipped over to the oldies station this morning just as I was pulling onto my street and what were they playing? “Free Will” by Rush. I had to sit for awhile. Fuck.

    • AlexinCT

      Stay frosty and strong Festus. None of us escapes this game alive, but the trick is to make the best for yourself while you keep playing it…

    • Drake

      Glad you didn’t. I’ve lost people.

      • Festus

        Me too. Six of them thus far. Thanks, Drake.

    • DEG

      I’m you glad you didn’t end it.

    • Swiss Servator

      Don’t , friend. Talk to us as needed… if that thought ever comes back.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of hate crime, the FBI is now actively soliciting hate crime complaints, via psa on Pandora. “Have you, or someone you know…”

    See something, say something. Haven’t seen anything? Make something up.

    Let’s go, Brandon!

    • rhywun

      “Hello, fellow music aficionadoes!”

    • Rebel Scum

      Make something up.

      The FBI makes up half the crime it “solves”. Speaking of, we haven’t had another glowie with swastikas etched in the paint of his pickup at the capitol for a few weeks. What gives?

      And where is the prosecution of the FBI agents Trumpists that plotted to kidnap that nice lady governor of Michigan? I demand answers!

    • Spartacus

      Recently I was in a meeting where our President was going on about how much money we have spent in the past couple of years on internal investigations. He said something like “when I was on the faculty we didn’t have anywhere near this many complaints.”
      I said “Well, you know, it’s a lot easier to complain than it used to be. We get emails and presentations all the time telling us about the Ethics Line, the anonymous hot line, and all these other ways that people can file complaints effortlessly. Nobody has to try to work things out anymore, and they are not encouraged to.”
      It didn’t go over well.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m of the opinion that any evidence that goes “missing” should lead lead to the immediate dismissal of all charges and the firing and fining of all involved with handling such evidence. I don’t care who they’re prosecuting.

      • AlexinCT

        I think that that’s a good start. But I think they need to find the one that “lost” the evidence, and then put their as sin pound-me-in-the-ass prison in a cell with Bubba. Cause the only way you dissuade the behavior is to make the people doing this criminal shit pay for it in pounds of flesh.

      • Swiss Servator

        In civil trials, any “spoliated” (lost, withheld, etc) evidence is construed totally in the other parties favor. In criminal, it can be the basis of a motion to dismiss, with the weight of the evidence withheld being the prime consideration.

    • db

      They “lost” an HD version of the recording of the events of one of the most prominent criminal cases of the century so far.

      Why do they still have a budget?

      • cyto

        It raises a lot of additional questions…. Like “why is there a not-hd version?”. And “where is your chain of custody?”. And “why is it not on a server where there are backups instead of some removable media in a box that can be lost?”

        As a tech guy and not a police guy, this “lost” story sounds dubious.

      • db

        Yep. There are basic procedures. I would imagine that for a thing like this to be entered into evidence at all, there would have to be a chain of custody. If there weren’t, a competent attorney would challenge the veracity of the evidence based on CoC alone.

        I cannot believe that there aren’t procedures to take this kind of media and back it up in multiple places, with hashes of the files stored to verify their integrity, etc., etc., ad nauseam.

      • cyto

        Well… The FBI is also the agency that famously does not record interviews, but really likes prosecuting people for lying in interviews.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That shit needs to end.

      • db

        Why would anyone consent to an interview without an attorney present?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Because television and movies show that only guilty people get attorneys.

      • juris imprudent

        Hell, I would have both an attorney and I’d be recording it. Suck it Fed.

    • cyto

      Robert Barnes put together a team to fundraise and provide legal defense. … On condition that the mother be in control of all finances (instead of self serving lawyers).

      Last week the financials came due… And they locked him out. Apparently some “security” dude has their confidence and is controlling all access. The lawyers they are using were recommended by him.

      On Sunday Barnes hinted that this guy might not have Rittenhouse’s best interests at heart. Also hinted that they may be sabotaging the defense. Said the jury selection was pretty inept.

      Fast forward to yesterday. The YouTube videos about the trial started popping up in my stream. I watched some late last night. The consensus seems to be that the defense is terrible and they are turning a slam dunk for the defense into a relatively firm case for conviction… Not on the facts, but by being unable to tell a story or present a narrative.

      Other experts pointed out numerous obvious objections that the defense let go by. And everyone seems to agree that the “social media expert” should have been struck by the defense, as he had nothing to add to the case. Instead, he was on the stand for some 6 hours of what they said was excruciatingly boring testimony about nothing.

      I hope they are wrong….

      • EvilSheldon

        Interesting. Do we know who the ‘security’ guy is?

      • cyto

        Yeah, they named him and detailed some possibly questionable leftist attachments… But I am too lazy to go back and find those details in a bunch of YouTube videos.

        So… “Security guy” it is.

      • DEG

        Oh no.

        I donated to Rittenhouse during the first round of donations, I think when Lin Wood was still his attorney.

        I haven’t donated since, and was kicking myself a bit for not doing so. It looks like that might have a been good decision.

      • cyto

        Barnes involvement was in response to Wood heading things up.

        It seems that when there are millions of dollars to pass around, the temptation is just to great to keep all the con men at bay.

    • EvilSheldon

      The bureaucracy is working as designed.

  41. Rebel Scum

    This right was in question?

    A statewide referendum asked voters if they favored an amendment to the Maine Constitution “to declare that all individuals have a natural, inherent and unalienable right to grow, raise, harvest, produce and consume the food of their own choosing for their own nourishment, sustenance, bodily health and well-being.” It was an experiment not tried before by any state.

    Supporters used the campaign to make the case the amendment would ensure the right to grow vegetables and raise livestock in an era when corporatization threatens local ownership of the food supply. They positioned the amendment as a chance for Mainers to wrestle control of the food supply back from large landowners and giant retailers with little connection to the community.

    The WEF has a sad.

    Opponents cast the drive as deceptively vague. They also said it represented a threat to food safety and animal welfare, and could encourage residents to try to raise cows in their backyards in cities like Portland and Bangor.

    The opponents are dishonest.

    • Drake

      HOAs hardest hit.

    • juris imprudent

      Yeah, I thought zoning regs were a big part – only grass and/or ornamental plants in [front] yards.

    • Rat on a train

      to declare that all individuals have a natural, inherent and unalienable right to grow, raise, harvest, produce and consume the food of their own choosing for their own nourishment, sustenance, bodily health and well-being.
      SCOTUS disagrees.

      • Swiss Servator

        Wickard v Filburn, the second worst SCOTUS decision ever.

      • UnCivilServant

        Which one do you rate as the worst?

      • juris imprudent

        I’d venture Dred Scott, but you can make a case for Marbury v. Madison.

      • Rat on a train

        At least Dred Scott is no longer law. Wickard v Filburn has been expanded by Gonzales v Reich and NFIB v Sebelius.

  42. DEG

    Peng Shuai, 35, a former Wimbledon and French Open doubles champion, on Tuesday accused retired Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli of pressuring her into having sex, according to screenshots of a since-deleted post from Peng’s verified account on Weibo, China’s Twitter-like social media platform.

    Who does he think he is? Chairman Mao?

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation, a national trade association in the firearms industry, says that when comparing 2019 to 2020, there was a 58.2% increase in gun purchases among Black people, a 43% increase with Asians and 49% among Latinos. The NSSF estimates that 40% of gun sales overall were for first-time gun buyers.

    🙂

    Air Force Inspector General Lieutenant General Sami Said, who led the investigation of the strike at the direction of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, concluded the strike was “an honest mistake.”

    “Honest mistake”. Is that the new “totality of the circs. smooches”?

    “These Republicans are dangerous, that this isn’t a party that’s just another political party that disagrees with us on tax policy. That at this point, they’re dangerous,” Reid railed alongside Rachel Maddow.

    Her tears are delicious.

    The Supreme Court is likely to expand gun rights in New York after several justices expressed concern over the state’s high bar requiring ‘proper cause’ to obtain a concealed carry permit – possibly indicating an end to the state’s notoriously restrictive gun laws.

    John Roberts is on deck to fuck us over.

    • Swiss Servator

      “Honest mistake”. Is that the new “totality of the circs. smooches”?

      Yes.

  43. Pope Jimbo

    Utter and complete bullshit fake news of all time

    I have never even heard of a charcuterie tray before I saw that.

    The only correct answer for Minnesoda would be: Green Bean Hotdish.

    * Brooksy needs to answer for “Turkey Gravy”

    • Not Adahn

      Turkey (giblet) gravy is delicious, you heathen.

      • juris imprudent

        No one cutting in line in front of you eh?

      • Pope Jimbo

        But as an official side dish?

        Yeah, sure you gotta have turkey gravy, but no one is pouring it out in a bowl and eating it all by itself.

      • Not Adahn

        *blinks*

        Oh, you mean you didn’t make enough for people to do that.

      • CPRM

        No one? I’ve eaten gravy from a bowl as a main course, it’s just thick soup.

      • Suthenboy

        But it is not a side. It goes on the turkey.

      • Not Adahn

        And the stuffing. And the mashed potatoes. And the dinner rolls…

    • rhywun

      I have never even heard of a charcuterie tray before I saw that.

      It’s just a food-snob word for a plate of cold cuts.

    • Fourscore

      You ain’t French then, that’s all I can say.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The Norwegians and Swedes I grew up with had a way of dealing with the French, so not a lot of experience with Frog stuff.

      • Fourscore

        Next year you’ll get a paper plate with cut up pieces of venison sticks, labeled charcuterie plate,. Hey, hey, stop hitting me, Jimbo, I was kidding, stop, stop.

    • CPRM

      charcuterie tray

      I’d never heard of it before last Christmas, some guy from New York on sports radio was talking about it. Apparently it’s a fancy name for a cheese and sausage tray. But that isn’t a side, it’s an appetizer.

      • Sean

        Usually pretty keto friendly too.

      • ignoreLander

        Usually pretty keto friendly too.

        Probably come up on Glibfit but I am not caught up on reading those…. But I gather from several of your comments now that you follow keto.

        Has it been successful for you? Did you do it for weight loss, or for general health? Has it been hard to stick to?

      • Sean

        Very successful. I did it for weight loss. I was almost 210 when I started. Dropped down to 140 (i think) at my lowest in less than a year. Wasn’t a good look for me (people commented). Bounced it back up to 148-150. Been there for 5 years now.

        Pretty easy to stick to for me. GF is on board too. She dropped a bunch of weight also (despite her sabotaging coworkers.)

        Dropping weight like that does so much for you and your quality of life. I’m never going back.

      • waffles

        What’s your height? I am currently 35 and the heaviest I’ve ever been 190 / 5’11”. I’d probably be happier and healthier 15-20lbs lighter. I’ve finally crossed the threshold where the clothes don’t fit quite like they used to. Also my age is sort of a last chance to set those healthy habits for midlife.

      • Sean

        6 ft.

        I eat 3 meals a day and snacks. I don’t deprive myself.

      • ignoreLander

        I’ve been doing what I’ll call “keto-inspired” for about a month now. That is, consciously cutting out carbs and added sugar, but not tracking macros or calories. I also don’t make it a point to use fat for satiety.

        I did it to try out mental clarity. As I get older my mind isn’t as sharp as it used to be and I heard that keto was a way to enhance brain health. Jury’s still out on it, but one thing is for sure and that’s that it definitely feels better.

        So I’m thinking of going in whole hog. The brain thing aside, I could stand to lose some weight as well. Plus I like the idea of forming better habits moving forward.

        Thanks for the info, I think this will be a good thing.

      • db

        Sometimes it’s a meal for me, when I’m lazy.

      • Sean

        Charcuterie + a martini = all 4 food groups, right?

      • Tulip

        Add pickled veggies and yep.

      • Sean

        Olives in the martini. 🙂

      • Not Adahn

        And usually some sort of fruit preserve.

      • CPRM

        I’ll make a meal out of sausage, but I’m not putting it on a tray. It’s the odd day I even use a plate for that.

      • db

        Just shove it all down the throat at once, eh?

      • Pope Jimbo

        I think that is how it got there. The list was composed from google searches. Probably a lot of jack pine savages like Fourscore were googling “What the fuck is a charta-something tray”.

      • AlexinCT

        I had to google jack pine savages…..

      • Pope Jimbo

        That was my dad’s term for all the rural scofflaws on his caseload.

  44. DEG

    Tom Woods on the 2021 elections

    Speaking in Palm Beach County this morning, Ron DeSantis said:

    “A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose yours. A recovery is when Fauci loses his.”

    Indeed.

    He’s speaking like someone who feels like things are going his way — and maybe they are.

    You’ve heard about yesterday’s election results, particularly in Virginia. Yes, the victor in the gubernatorial race may not be the world’s best Republican, but there is no doubt what he represents in the minds of voters: opposition to COVID stupidity and woke lunacy.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Sometimes you just need to be practical and vote for the lesser of two douches and when McAullife’s involved that’s damn near anyone.

  45. Pope Jimbo

    I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Younkins has his first transition meeting with Northam.

    Northham: Welcome, today I’ll be showing you the robes here

    Younkins: You mean ropes right?

    Northham: Nope

    • db

      You, sir, are a wizard with humor.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Ku are too kind.

      • Swiss Servator

        You are accepting praise from these Klux?!

    • Rat on a train

      Did Northam mention his love of Vaudeville?

    • cyto

      There are, what, a half dozen journalists left in the US?

      Greenwald dumping on the WaPo reporting the other day was epic. But you shouldn’t have to go to alt sites like SubStack or Veritas to get original reporting that isn’t sponsored by the DNC or affiliated groups.

      • AlexinCT

        You shouldn’t. But that’s where we are today….

        Think about that.

      • cyto

        Title is “here’s why”

        Article specifically never addresses “here’s why”.

    • Urthona

      To be fair, they always must give you a ballot and just aren’t supposed to count it when they can confirm again you are not registered. This is because they could be wrong.

      I know this from experience actually.

      Not that this isn’t yet another giant issue where the person counting the ballots can’t be corrupt. There need to be multiple checks.

      • DEG

        According to the video…. NJ law says, “No”.

      • Urthona

        Ah. There you go.

      • DEG

        NH allows provisional ballots for those that are unregistered and there is a question about whether or not those people are allowed to vote, so some states do allow it. Sounds like NJ does not.

    • Swiss Servator

      Here come the flood of lawsuits, public commentary, etc. No way at least one Federal Judge doesn’t hang this up.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The legal requirement, yes. However, the signal has been sent to the fellow travelers in the HR departments. “We are serious. We are following through with this.” Now that they have their marching orders, the purges will continue at most companies, regardless of whether the legal requirement holds up.

      • Swiss Servator

        We have 10% of our jobs sitting vacant – we have a testing option, and wfh option with no vax. All hail the tight labor market!

    • Ownbestenemy

      So Nov 23rd for FedGov, December 8th for FedCon, Jan 4 for public, and a slew of random deadlines for various organizations. Except the Post Office, they are exempt still I believe.

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        For DoD (at least, DoNavy), it’s 08 NOV for attestation and to have your “exemption” form submitted.

        Even with that submission, you still must attest by 08 NOV in order to avoid disciplinary action, although we were told that having your exemption form in will protect you from any negative consequences while it’s in process.

        I’ve been holding out hope that there would be enough backlash I wouldn’t have to submit, but may be in the same boat as Festus earlier. I’m not in a financial position where I can just walk away (and I know that’s my fault). Makes me sick to my stomach.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That is correct. There must be some movement in the background though because word was we would start discipline paperwork on Nov 9th for those that didn’t attest and/or have a denied accommodation, but they have moved that to Nov 23rd. Which makes since, because well, the EO says Nov 23rd. I am thinking for us at least, or still holding out hope, is they cannot move the needle with % of vax so they are slowly moving those goal posts.

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        I’ve been following your situation closely, OBE, as it’s quite similar to mine, employer-wise.

        Do you get the sense that FedGov is also identifying those that submit exemptions as “the folks we’ll fire first”, or not?

        That’s really the sticking point here for me. While I find the compulsion reprehensible, I also know that I’ll likely cave in the end, so would really be using the exemption as a delaying tactic, with the hope that it would be approved.
        However, if that’s just painting a target on my back for future action, then I’m back to square one (“I can’t quit”), so might as well just get it over with.

        Ugh.

      • Ownbestenemy

        It is starting to feel that way. They have moved the adjudication for religious accommodations from the FAA all the way to DOT HQ. Either they have a massive amount of requests, or the FAA wants to cover.

        It is weird they have used that word, adjudication because according to our order that covers RAs, as a manager, I am the person that is supposed to adjudicate the request with advice from legal. Again, probably cover for the employees as they start termination paperwork for people that are good employees.

        I have been really praying and talking with my wife about if I just get it. Probably one of the toughest times in my life right now.

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        Probably one of the toughest times in my life right now.

        Yup.

        The thing is that in looking through the VAERS data, the majority of deaths/significant effects from the vaccines are amongst the same population that COVID kills: the old and already-sick.
        So I’m not actually all that worried about dropping dead or getting heart issues from the shot, which is part of how the “anti-vaxx” side argues (as if everyone that gets it will die within 3 years and the like).

        Which lends itself to the “just go and do it” argument, but I just see no need, and recognize there are real risks, but don’t think I can avoid it.

      • LCDR_Fish

        The fact that virtually nobody has approved any religious exemptions (a few air force stories in the early bird today – and also referencing a temp hold?) is pretty damning across the board.

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        Agreed. I really get the sense that there are calculations being made along the lines of “well, can we lose this 2-5% of people?” and then making do with that RIF.

        For some departments or commands, that will be pretty tough, but for many others, I’d argue that it wouldn’t significantly impact productivity. FedGov has quite a bit of “personnel buffer”.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      There seems to be a lot of that going around.

    • AlexinCT

      She better watch it. Sometimes the universe has this perverse way of punishing those that feel joy at causing harm to others..

      I would hate for her kids to suffer for her stupidity and evil ways.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The number of kids harmed by the stupidity of the parents throughout the ages is simply unmeasurable. It’s just a fact of life.

        What I wish to avoid is the stupidity of other parents harming my kids.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        What I wish to avoid is the stupidity of other parents harming my kids.

        ^^

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The white visible all around the iris gives it away.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Virtually every single news story about the elections seems to be focused on the race or ethnicity of the candidates (win or lose).

    E pluribus unum, my ass.

    • Rebel Scum

      Obviously you are racist if you do not view the world through the lens of skin pigment.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’d put OSHA on the list of the agencies to be consigned to the ashbin of history but they were already on it.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        My experience with OSHA inspectors is that they are a particularly stupid lot.

        The best way to deal with them is to make sure you are complying with the most obvious and easily enforceable regs. They are usually too lazy to look for the real hazards on a job and go for the low-hanging fruit instead.

    • Urthona

      We’ll see. Vaccine mandates below water in the polls now. Covid rates also plummeting. Legal challenges to come. Republicans win congress in a year.

    • rhywun

      Just say no.

      • Drake

        No

      • rhywun

        Well said.

      • juris imprudent

        You can’t tell me what to do!

      • Swiss Servator

        No I can’t!

        …wait a minute…

    • SDF-7

      First I’ve seen of it – and I have to wonder if our HR will care — but from that article:

      The White House also said Thursday that it would push back its federal contractor vaccine mandate deadline from Dec. 8 to Jan. 4.

      I hope so and I hope our HR adjusts to match — I’ll take all the extra time I can get and hope this crap all gets shot down together. Especially since it looks like HRs plan is not to fire folks right away but to do “unpaid leave” — fire me, and I can use my accrued vacation time money to survive while I get the next steps. Leave me in limbo without pay and things are a lot harder financially. So if it comes down to it, I hope they have a cleaner break. My plan at the moment is still to drag my feet on this as long as possible. Already apologized to my wife for failing as a man if I cave to the fiscal gun at my head, though. Hope it doesn’t come to that.

      • Gustave Lytton

        If they’re going to threaten fines, then businesses won’t change the dates but leave it as a buffer to ensure compliance.

      • Rebel Scum

        “unpaid leave”

        If it comes to that I am taking all of my pto and using that time to figure out new employment.

      • Nephilium

        My work just recently switched from accrued PTO hours to PTO guidelines. So no bank of hours they have to pay off on termination.

      • slumbrew

        They did that for us about a decade ago – they were carrying millions of accrued PTO on the books.

        Came with a carrot, though – “unlimited” PTO – 6 weeks off by default (plus holidays & “wellness” days during the pandemic). If you want to take off more than 4 consecutive weeks or more than 6 weeks total, you need VP approval (I’m going to guess that’s rarely been asked for).

        I will likely use all 6 weeks this year, for just the second time since I’ve been here. I end up taking extra days on each side of holidays – e.g., going to travel on Tuesday for Thanksgiving, back on Monday or Tuesday.

        I didn’t work a full 5-day week for about 6 weeks in a row this summer. It was nice.

      • Ownbestenemy

        But his employees can go fuck off. I never really have hatred for people…but this guy is getting me there.

    • DEG

      I thought it would be a nothingburger. Let’s see what happens with the lawsuits.

    • Nephilium

      This is just the Biden Administration’s plan to help small businesses! Why come you deplorables hate small business?

      • rhywun

        I hope my place of work’s (((owners))) are busy drawing up plans to split into 75 independent corporations.

      • Rebel Scum

        That’s something I suppose my employer could do. Each office could be it’s own corporation.

    • Rebel Scum

      At least I get my bonus before I have to make my employer fire me. Yay.

      • rhywun

        Ours don’t come out until April. I didn’t get one this year because of my hire date.

  47. ignoreLander

    I’m pretty happy to be living in Texas right now. Well, mostly. I wasn’t a fan of the bond issue. But 7 of 8 ain’t bad.

    Man, I’m assuming the “Chron” linked there is the Houston Chronicle? That’s some VERY loaded language they’re using about some duly passed amendments…. Kind of rattles my perception of Texas as an independent-as-hell state….

    Then again, I’m also aware Houston, Dallas, and (especially) Austin have reputations as Portland South, and these are the soy-boy newspaper reporters, so I should probably just disregard it….

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Houston and Dallas were relatively conservative cities (at least, once you got out of city limits and into the suburbs) as of 10 years ago when I moved here. Now, they’re much more purple than they were. Main causes (IMO) are 1) urban expansion into the suburbs, 2) brainwashed government school drones pouring out of the system every year, 3) californication

      Austin has always been a prog-fascist blip on the conservative texas radar.

      I think Texas will be politically competitive maybe not in 2024, but in 2026 or 2028.

      • Urthona

        The main cause is Trump being unpopular in suburbs and among suburban women. Already slinging back in his absence.

      • cyto

        It was “grab em” on tape. Suburban wives hate, hate, hate him because of that.

        The Dems successfully weaponized that as an admission that he routinely sexually assaults complete strangers. Once in that bucket, nothing he says is given an audience.

        It is like the unattractive guy at the bar.. it doesn’t matter how funny his libe is, he is “gross” and a “creep”, regardless of what he says or does.

      • Urthona

        Yes.

        And I just don’t think overall this brand of politics resonates with or excites suburban America. He grew his coalition elsewhere.

        But I’m not ready to throw in the towel on the suburbs quite yet. Every suburb in the U.S. is still pretty Republican.

      • The Last American Hero

        Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

        Where is this alternate universe and how can I join it?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I think that explains some of the softness in the past couple presidential elections, but I’m more talking cultural issues. Perhaps it’s because I’m in the middle of one of the californication corridors, but this is not the same Dallas metropolitan area that I moved to in 2011. Wokeness is seeping in. That silicon valley superficialism is seeping in. The general assholery that you get from the coastal cities is seeping in. Masking around here is much higher than I would expect given Texas. Etc.

      • ignoreLander

        Perhaps it’s because I’m in the middle of one of the californication corridors, but this is not the same Dallas metropolitan area that I moved to in 2011. Wokeness is seeping in.

        I always feared for Texas for that very reason. The fantastic atmosphere for business, the lack of a state income tax, and that general Texas awesomeness, is what makes that place so attractive. And it’s attracting the wrong kind of people and the wrong kind of businesses.

        I’ve always seen Texas, Florida, and the Dakotas as the last bastions of hope to which I can flee if the shit TRULKY hits the fan in this country…. I really hope Texas as it stands today, survives….

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        …Texas, Florida, and the Dakotas as the last bastions of hope to which I can flee…

        I’d suggest that most of Idaho, Utah, and parts of Montana and Wyoming may also be ok. Kansas still flies under the radar, I think, although I know almost nothing about the culture-on-the-ground there.

      • Mojeaux

        Kansas is an odd duck, IMO. There’s one county (arguably two) that pretty much rules the whole state, which is Johnson County (part of the KC metro area), and it voted blue for governor. OTOH, the last governor royally screwed up (I don’t remember how), so it may have been a not-incumbent-party vote. I don’t know how influential the Wichita area is. The rest of the state is rural and is pretty red.

        LJW and Ozy may have a different handle on it, as they both live there.

      • whiz

        I suspect that Lawrence (Kansas University town) is blue, too.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, good point.

        I don’t know how K-State (Manhattan) and Pitt State (Pittsburg) would be, as they are relatively rural schools. Emporia State is halfway between KC and Wichita. Hm. Several unis in KS. I never really thought about it.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        It’s certainly not universal, and it’s very hard to treat Texas as a monolith, because it isn’t. For every Today Show swilling soccer mom in the suburbs of Dallas/Austin/Houston, there’s a ranch mom running a homestead in Lubbock or Odessa or Tyler. For every soyboy suburbanite, there’s a cowboy.

        However, the suburbs are starting to get that “smell” to them. That certain odor that wafts around freely in the suburbs of coastal cities. That hyper-materialistic, self-absorbed, TMITE drone, “I have opinions because I don’t have any meaning in my life” scent. As KK puts it, “boss level Karen”.

  48. Lackadaisical

    “Critics of Prop 3 said it could potentially have serious future consequences for public health responses since it bars the state from taking steps to mitigate disease spread”

    Yeah, yeah. You’ve already shown you cannot be trusted with that power. In a serious outbreak, 99% of churches and church goers will self regulate, as most people don’t want bubonic plague.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    * Brooksy needs to answer for “Turkey Gravy”

    I suppose you prefer that canned-green-beans-and-mushroom-soup mush.

    • cyto

      Ownbestenemy on November 4, 2021 at 1:11 am
      Was it DEG/DB or lobot that made the remarks they think it was a setup by a union person regarding the bullet and the gun?

      BREAKING: Husband of ‘Rust’ cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has hired lawyers and ‘is set to file wrongful death lawsuit’: Attorney for movie armorer claims disgruntled saboteur put live round in gun Alec Baldwin fired that killed her

      Of course…anything to shift blame..but ya never know.

      I watched the interview with her lawyers on Today. They made no such allegation.

      Savannah Guthrie did the interview. She made the allegation, and repeated it several times (in the form of a question).

      It seemed very odd. In fact, it reminded me of her interviews with Nathan Philips and Nick Sandman. She repeatedly tried to push them into “saying” something by having them agree with something they specifically did not say.

      The lawyers brought up a box of fake ammo (not blanks, fake rounds that look real but do not fire) and said she loaded it from that box, but other people had access for 2 hours after that, and other people had access to the box.

      The implication was there that there exists a possibility. But they made no claims.

      When pressed repeatedly.. “so, you are alleging that some disgruntled employee put a live round in the box of dummy ammo… Who do you believe did that?”… They answered “No, we are not alleging anything. We are investigating all possibilities”.

      Here comes the conjecture:. It was so ham-handed that I suspect that Baldwin’s people prepped her for the interview and gave her talking points to push.

      • cyto

        WordPress HTML fail. First bit was supposed to be a quote from yesterday’s thread.

      • cyto

        Also, thread fail. Stupid login expired mid post and everything just went downhill from there…

        *EDIT FERRY HELP WITH FORMATTING, LEAVING THREADING AS TRIBUTE TO BROOKS*

      • cyto

        Thanks!

      • DEG

        l0b0t I think. Definitely not me.

      • db

        not me, either. I have no opinion on it other than it was a cascade of failures. Sabotage might or might not have been part of it, but regardless, it could have been prevented at a number of points by a number of people doing proper gun safety checks. Alec Baldwin was the final hole in the cheese.

      • Suthenboy

        Dummy ammo = no primer

        That way they are easy to spot.

    • Pope Jimbo

      It is called Hotdish, Brooksy and it is totes the best dish at Thanksgiving.

      • AlexinCT

        Is that why the day after Thanksgiving is the biggest plumbing disasters involving toilets day in Minnesoda, too?

      • Pope Jimbo

        That is because of all the greasy meats from the chanteuse plate.

  50. Not Adahn

    Update on my winter steel shoot on Nov 14:

    It’s been moved from the pistol shack to pit #9, which means shotguns are once again a go!

    Now I need to check the m3k.

    I think for the first one I’ll bring the Stoeger and the AR9. The 1911 will undoubtedly show up at some point.

      • Not Adahn

        No rifle cartridges. 1 minute/string max. $5/gun. 4 stages 12 rounds/stage min. Like SCSA, but best 2/3, 4 targets/string, no stop plate, but there may be target order specified.

      • Not Adahn

        Oh, #7.5 or smaller birdshot only.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t own a shotgun. My only competition firearm is the 10/22

      • Not Adahn

        That’ll work.

        Heck, with a 1 min limit, you could use the rolling block too.

        This is a super casual sport. It’s an opportunity for me to go out and shoot when Saraspa closes because of ice. I’m expecting single action revolvers to show up. Hopefully some lever guns will as well. When the snow comes, we’ll move into the pistol shack and then shotguns won’t be permitted because of the venue rules.

      • Not Adahn

        Of course, this is an opportunity to go buy a 590/870.

      • UnCivilServant

        You know, I still haven’t shot the baby rolling block.

        If this isn’t at Saraspa, which range is it at?

      • Not Adahn

        Kayaderosseras Fish and Game. Corner of Geyser Rd and Stone Church Rd. in Ballston Spa/Milton

      • UnCivilServant

        I remember that one.

        I need to get out of the house more. I suspect being inside is contributing to a depressive mental state.

      • Not Adahn

        I love getting out on a bright winter morning and listening to steel ring. The clean air makes the gunsmoke smell better.

        I’m hoping for first shots at 9:00, but it depends on how much of a clusterfuck this first outing is. They haven’t given me the combo to the equipment barn yet.

      • UnCivilServant

        Do I need to get any paperwork in if I wanted to join in?

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Essex County – where they didn’t even bother counting votes on rlection night because they didn’t know how many Murphy needed.,/em>

    “How many votes did we get?”

    “How many do you need?”

    • Sean

      Yikes!

    • slumbrew

      “Then everyone applauded”

      That seems a little too perfect.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Almost too good to be true so is it.

    • cyto

      How has this guy not been cancelled? Shouldn’t he be suspended pending an investigation?

    • Rebel Scum

      Karen got the jab but Karen thinks she is not protected so why did Karen get the jab?

    • rhywun

      JFC.

      We are so fucking doomed with this shit.

  52. Festus

    I’m out. Need my beauty sleep before the elixir puts me down for good. Iolbot if you’re out there please be well. I’m off to eat something, toss and turn for the next six hours and then offer myself up to the leviathan. My soul will heal harder than my weak resolve.

    • AlexinCT

      Night night, bro.

  53. Rebel Scum

    Voter suppression.

    DeSantis announced today he is creating a new police unit to pursue election crimes full-time and wants lawmakers to enhance penalties for those who cheat when they vote.

    It will be called the Office of Election Crimes and Security.

    “I guarantee you this: The first person that gets caught, no one is going to want to do it again after that,” DeSantis said in describing the deterrent he hopes to create with the new investigative office.

    DeSantis also called on the GOP-controlled Legislature to put additional restrictions on the use of drop boxes. “I don’t even think we should have drop boxes.”

    “If someone’s ballot harvesting, you report it to these people and this is their sole job. Some of these counties, some of them will do the cases but that’s not their expertise. They got all these other crimes that they have to deal with. So by the time it happens, the election’s already over.”

    Eliminate drop boxes and any form of mail in that is not absentee, which should only be allowed for a few extenuating circumstances with strict chain of custody documentation and signature verification. ID requirement to get a ballot. No early voting. Make election day a state holiday. Make election day election day again.

    • AlexinCT

      No mail in voting unless you are military or medically disqualified from being able to vote in person (and Kung Flue shit don’t count). No ballot harvesting of any kind. Provide proof of US citizenship to vote (issue everyone that should vote a free picture ID: it’s cheaper than all the other shit we do today). Create a system that allows voters to go see how their vote was recorded after the fact.

      None of these things will happen, because the system has the flaws it has today so the people that want to cheat can do so.

      • Gustave Lytton

        No three hour line bullshit either. If you can’t walk in and vote within 15 minutes, there’s not enough machines or the precinct is too large.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Other folks other than military may live outside the state – or country.

    • cyto

      It took about 3 decades, but the left has been successful in getting people to believe that we should have 6 week long elections. They clearly believe that this favors their grass roots ground game with unions and minority groups in dense population centers being able to harvest votes in far greater numbers than Republicans.

      I suspect that a lot of the movement in that direction has been through young people who have heard it their whole lives growingbuo and replacing older generation voters who think that it is crazy to allow this stuff.

    • Grummun

      In these parts, early voting means going to the board of elections office, providing the same ID and voting on the same machine as on election day. I don’t have a problem with that, particularly if it comes with a strict limits on mail-in ballots. You’re going to be out of town on election day? I’d rather early voting at the BOE than issue an absentee ballot. Absentee ballots should be for people like deployed military that will out out of town the entire election season.

      I don’t see that election day has to be a holy day, but it should be a hard deadline.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I agree. I have no problem with early voting. Heck, I’d prefer that all medically certified absentees be handled by a mobile voting booth in the days leading up to election day. Same process, same machinery, same people, just on wheels.

        The mail-in votes should be only for people who are out of state for a long period of time for particular reasons (military, etc.)

  54. Rebel Scum

    ‘Member when the ACLU was a civil rights organization?

    The Wall Street Journal first reported that the federal government was considering payments of $450,000 per individual affected by the policy. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a class action lawsuit in 2019 seeking damages for the toll the separations took on families, and attorneys representing families have filed separate claims.

    In a statement Wednesday, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said Biden must right the wrongs of the Trump administration.

    “President Biden may not have been fully briefed about the actions of his very own Justice Department as it carefully deliberated and considered the crimes committed against thousands of families separated from their children as an intentional governmental policy,” Romero said. “But if he follows through on what he said, the president is abandoning a core campaign promise to do justice for the thousands of separated families. We respectfully remind President Biden that he called these actions ‘criminal’ in a debate with then-President Trump, and campaigned on remedying and rectifying the lawlessness of the Trump administration.”

    • cyto

      Biden was asked about this yesterday.

      He ridiculed the (fox, I think) reporter And basically accused him of making it up.

      You would think that the rest of the press would report in a president repudiating his own administration’s policies 48 hours after they were out in force defending it.

      Either he had no idea what his own administration was doing, or they are lying to avoid blowback. Either is a bad look.

      Which is probably why you aren’t seeing that story being told.

  55. CPRM

    Ethiopia declares a state of emergency and calls on citizens to prepare to defend the capital

    Ethiopia declared a state of emergency on Tuesday after the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) said they captured the towns of Dessie and Kombolcha in the Amhara region, Al Jazeera reports. The towns are some 400km (250 miles) from the capital, and TPLF forces have indicated they may advance south towards Addis Ababa. Government and Tigray forces have been fighting for a year now, and there is a communication blackout in most of northern Ethiopia. UN General-Secretary António Guterres called for an immediate cessation of hostilities. The US Special Envoy for Horn of Africa Jeffrey Feltman will travel to Ethiopia on Thursday for talks, Reuters report, two days after US president Joe Biden said he would strip Ethiopia of duty-free access to the United States over alleged human rights abuses in Tigray.

    Something, something insurrection…

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      If they think this is rough wait until they get invaded by Egypt for trying to dam the Nile.

    • db

      US president Joe Biden said he would strip Ethiopia of duty-free access to the United States over alleged human rights abuses in Tigray.

      They must really like bourbon.

    • EvilSheldon

      “…US president Joe Biden said he would strip Ethiopia of duty-free access to the United States over alleged human rights abuses in Tigray.

      This…cannot mean what I think it means. Can it? Duty-free access? Really?

      • cyto

        Yes. It means they have a little gift shop with cheap booze and cologne.

      • Gustave Lytton

        shop with cheapoverpriced travel exclusive edition booze and cologne

      • cyto

        Fair point

      • Not Adahn

        The land crossing between the US and Canadia has legitimately great deals on Scotch. I may need to go to Montreal just for that.

  56. Rebel Scum

    I, for one, am shocked that a respiratory illness mutated.

    According to research published yesterday in Nature. To be clear, this “heavily mutated”variant (called A.30) exists in the wild and has been found in patients on at least two continents.

    It overcomes both the mRNA and DNA/AAV vaccines, the researchers say.

    Don’t worry, though. Remember when Dr. Fauci told you mutated SARS-COV-2 variants that could beat the vaccines would spread within months? He did! He totally did!

    Everything will be fine.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Interesting that the spike proteins aka the vaccines’ target are where the changes are tending to take place. It’s almost as if the vaccinations are…ah, fuck it..

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m shocked that we haven’t completely eradicated the Rona virus by now. It has been almost two years now!

      If only Trump hadn’t totally ignored the Rona. Or if wrongthinkers hadn’t opposed Fauci. Surely historians will look back on us and say those were the reasons that the Rona wasn’t eliminated.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    This one is quite the charmer:

    She asks the guy in the seat next to her to show a vaxx card before she’ll sit down? She knows the law!

    This country is irretrievably broken.

    A few more years, and I’ll be done.

    • EvilSheldon

      The pilot was polite enough to stand in for a Canadian Mr. Rogers, so my fantasy of Karen being removed from the aircraft face-first probably didn’t happen.

    • db

      “Doesn’t bother me if you continue to stand, ma’am. But please let someone else sit there.”

      • db

        Oh, I missed it was an aircraft thing. Either way, not my problem. I paid for my seat, lady. What you choose to do with your ticket is your business. *Earbuds back in.*

  58. The Late P Brooks

    And she’s not wearing a mask (because “she has asthma”). Who let her on the plane?

    We live in a pantomime circus.

    • ignoreLander

      And she’s not wearing a mask (because “she has asthma”). Who let her on the plane?
      We live in a pantomime circus.

      Don’t you know? If you have asthma in your bronchials, then the Rona doesn’t actually come out. Science!

  59. Ownbestenemy

    Youngest teen goes for his driver’s test today. I predict shitshow.

    He still hasn’t gotten clearance from the school. They need a sign off that attendance is up to snuff. He has dragged his feet on that.
    He has grown out his hair and that fine but every two seconds while driving, he is playing with his hair. Tie it up, get some bobby pins and pin it back, whatever you need to do.
    He cannot drive in silence. We did a test run, where we didn’t talk, radio off, etc. 3 seconds after the radio was off, he wanted to have a conversation.

    Maybe Biden has truly helped me lower my expectations.

    • CPRM

      that fine but

      Perv.

    • db

      At what point did the public schools get a say in whether a person can get a driving license?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I dunno. The older teen actually had a pretty good handle on why they do though. “Its always about money and keeping butts in the seats in class so the schools can get their money” Had to tell the single tear to get back up in there

    • waffles

      I feel like I had practically zero experience when I went for my test. Maybe 3-5 supervised hours behind the wheel and some time maneuvering the car around in my parent’s driveway. Passed. They’ll give a license to anyone .

  60. The Late P Brooks

    Silly me, I think a challenge to the mandates would put a burden of proof on those imposing the mandates.

    Like, for instance, some sort of substantiation of the breadth and severity of the “harm” caused by unvaxxed people earning a living.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Not when the official line is “we aren’t firing people for being unvaxxed, they are choosing not to adhere to a company rule”

      • Nephilium

        But the punishment for not following a company rule is termination.

        I’m mildly entertained that my third quarter performance review came out today. I’m still considered a good employee, deserving of both raises and bonuses.

        /looks at religious exemption form

      • CPRM

        My department needs me more than I need a job. Come What(ever) May. (An anti-Bush song, but fits really well with Biden now)

      • ignoreLander

        My department needs me more than I need a job. Come What(ever) May.

        I wish I was there. As it stands, I need my job desperately and my company needs me desperately. Guess we’ll see what happens when this irresistible force meets this immovable object.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah I made that point late last night. We are going to be terminating employees that are good employees, while those with a track record of discipline issues will still be in, being terrible at their job but will be considered as ‘model’ employees because they got a vaccination.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    Yesterday, some dead ender mask-tard came into the bar dutifully wearing his face diaper, sat down at the bar and removed it. My friend said, “Look at that. He wears his mask outside where he’s safe, and takes it off when he gets inside, where it’s full of germs.”

    People are done with this irrational bullshit.

    When do the lynchings of the public health experts start? Can’t be soon enough.

    • Not Adahn

      Maybe he wears it as he enters the bar because he doesn’t know how aggressive the policy inside will be? That’s what I do.

    • The Last American Hero

      I find your notion that we are done to be laughable. I need a vaxport to eat at a restaurant now in my county soon to be rolled to the whole state. Try flying sans mask. And now effective 1/4, try working at a large employer. The war is over, and we fucking lost.

  62. Ownbestenemy

    FAA has its head in the sand right now.

    “We have contingencies and we have had to use them over the past 20 months when facilities go to ATC-Zero (cannot control traffic) because of COVID, we will be fine after November 23rd”

    The thing is, those incidents occurred not all at once and were isolated to a specific area for a very limited and known timeframe. There is a possibility for a nationwide disruption across multiple facilities for an unknown period of time. We are still lagging in vaccination %s, last I heard, ~75%, but that will probably be closer to what we are seeing in other areas around 90-95% vaxxed as people finish up their last rounds of shots. Also people rush out to come into compliance when they start getting punished counseled and corrected into proper behavior*.

    *Seriously, that is how they are framing it.

    • Gustave Lytton

      And then do it all over again when the booster mandate hits.

    • rhywun

      finish up their last rounds of shots

      Narrator: There is no “last round” of shots.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah and I think they are holding that close to their chest at the moment. They know if they were to say that the EO/agency policy will expand to include any ‘approved’ boosters, the on-the-fencers would tell them Let’s Go Brandon!

  63. The Late P Brooks

    I’m shocked that we haven’t completely eradicated the Rona virus by now. It has been almost two years now!

    I’m shocked that we haven’t been completely eradicated by the Rona virus by now. It has been almost two years now!

    Just trying to help.

  64. Drake

    Election night shenanigans in NJ. At 1:54am – after 100% of the votes were reported, Bergen County flipped for Murphy by 40,000 votes.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/uB4ycyPetHRS/

    • Rat on a train

      You need larger margins to overcome fortifying.

    • Rebel Scum

      When you find more votes ballots you are not at 100% anymore are you?

    • db

      Be well, my friend.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I’ll be one of your anonymice.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        (I am not the five-hundreder: wow!)

    • Ownbestenemy

      Chin up, friend.

    • Nephilium

      Just as there are Laws of Conservation of Matter and Energy, so there are in fact Laws of Conservation of Pain and Joy. Neither can ever be created or destroyed. But one can be converted into the other.

      — Full Law of Conservation of Pain

      Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy.

      — Shortened version, AKA: Callahan’s law.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Thats how you stay anonymous!

    • Gustave Lytton

      I gotta run right now but just want to say both you Festus, and the rest of the glibs feeling like the rock is moving backwards, are not alone, in feeling that way or in companionship.

      https://youtu.be/4sLIMmmjh_U

    • Ghostpatzer

      Incoming. Take care, man.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I wish I could help, but I’m in a bad way over here, your goal is looking good so far!
      Vaya con Dios my friend!

    • Sean

      Don’t apologize. This is what a community does. It supports it’s members.

      Best wishes for you to land on your feet.

    • DEG

      Don’t apologize.

      I hope you get back on your feet.

      I kicked some money in.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Cute kitty, btw.

    • waffles

      Be well friend. Without the support of others I would be in a far darker place.

      • Nephilium

        l0b0t:

        And this is from a clown! Think how dark that place would be!

        🙂

    • Tulip

      No apology needed. I hope you can move out and move on.

    • slumbrew

      Won’t let me donate – I’ve tried 3 browsers across two machines.

      I’ll let it bake for a bit and try again later.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That’s a funny way of saying fuck off slaver.

      • slumbrew

        It’d be “fuck off, Yankee fan”, if anything (though maybe he’s a Mets fan – I can’t bring myself to hate them)

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        It kept crashing on my phone. I had to open it in desktop mode to get it to work.

      • Mojeaux

        Firefox on phone worked for me.

    • WTF

      Hang in there, glad to be able to help.

    • Mojeaux

      l0b0t, you headed upstate then?

    • PutridMeat

      “my life’s turned into a country song” – Please tell me the dog is OK.

      It’s easy to say ‘chin-up’, but that’s all we can do. One foot in front of the other man, one foot in front of the other.

    • juris imprudent

      I’m not sure why that poor bastard is getting hung. The problems are all much higher up the food chain.

      • ignoreLander

        The problems are all much higher up the food chain.

        Sounds like exactly why that bastard is getting hung.

      • cyto

        Yeah…. Charging some guy who said something to a DNC operatives in a bar is not exactly the rot that I thought needed cutting out.

    • CPRM

      Oh, I thought you were referring to their net wealth.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      What’s the big deal? When I fly in my Learjet from Monaco to Beverly Hills I always thrown down twenty thou or so to plant some trees in Brazil or wherever. You’re welcome to do that when you fly in your own Learjet too.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        But I thought you were Robin Hood. “So trip it up and down! ?”

      • Rat on a train

        I’m good. I made a deal with a family in a developing country a decade ago. I was already well under 1 Gore, but the deal will allow me flexibility.

    • rhywun

      *swoon*

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Why not now? What’s stopping them?

    • slumbrew

      Just their foundation will be net-zero in about a decade. Not them, personally, silly – that would require adjusting their lifestyle.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      If only Diana hadn’t given up her protection.

    • The Other Kevin

      They’re both already zeroes as far as I’m concerned.

      • Rat on a train

        Less than zero, but maybe another kid will bring the family up to net-zero.

    • Mojeaux

      They used to amuse me. Now they’re beginning to nauseate me.

  65. LCDR_Fish

    Dbleagle- re land in the center of Wyoming – I’ve been looking at some listings near Riverton, but I need to talk to an area realtor to determine what issues – if any – arise from owning on the reservation there.

    • juris imprudent

      I can’t imagine you could buy land on the reservation, and I wouldn’t think you would want to even be adjacent.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Technically Riverton falls inside the Wind River reservation – and a lot of other farming areas…but yeah…lots of listings there too – no idea how it works. I’ll find out eventually.

  66. AlexinCT
  67. Yusef drives a Kia

    Well shit, I just got my dear John letter from Lowes, so back to square one. My park manager really wants me to stay, and because of my efforts, they have seen fit to forgo my Mortgage for the next 2 months, so I only pay lot rent til Feb. So again, someone out there loves me, and helped put me back in at least more stable situation, maybe I’ll get my back surgery done after all.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      It was anonymous Paypal what did! it!

    • Drake

      For not being vaxxed?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Age, they won’t say that, but yeah, 58 is too old for the MGR.’s liking.
        I don’t even know if my back would hold up for a shift anyway. I couldn’t even get out of bed all morning from the pain, so I’ll try to get by on some GOV services,
        as of jan. I’ll be out of the job market permenantly, Cause I won’t take the Mark, so no goods and services for Me?

    • DEG

      Sorry Yusef.

      Good about the help.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        When I left GMI, it was after long talks with HIM^ and God has not failed me, I think I’ll stick with Team God.
        This place and the folks who live here are super gracious and giving, and God bless you all! lobot ‘s thing is looking good!

    • Ownbestenemy

      When you listen to the universe, it tends to listen back. Best of luck buddy, something will turn up

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Michiganders are some of the nicest people I have ever met, and it’s genuine, something I’m not used to, so I have a bit of local help. I’ll fix my mess, again.

  68. kinnath

    https://www.investors.com/news/technology/moderna-stock-moderna-earnings-q3-2021/

    Moderna (MRNA) slashed its outlook for Covid vaccine sales this year on Thursday — leading Moderna stock and shares of other vaccine makers to crash.

    For the year, Moderna now expects $15 billion to $20 billion in sales of its Covid vaccine. That’s down from its prior estimate for $20 billion. Analysts projected adjusted profit of $29.93 per share and $20.27 billion in total revenue. The company now expects to deliver 700 million to 800 million doses of its vaccine this year, down from its previous view for 800 million to 1 billion.

    Third-quarter sales and earnings also lagged projections. Moderna stock has taken a beating over recent weeks. U.S. officials delayed its vaccine in teens, while chief rivals Pfizer (PFE) and BioNTech (BNTX) are now allowed to vaccinate children as young as 5.

    The mandate is about cashing in. Nothing more.

    • Drake

      That’s still pretty good for a pharma that never once ever managed to get a product through a clinical trial and approval by the FDA.

    • Rebel Scum

      Related.

      This shit needs to end. So many people are enabling their own destruction.

    • The Last American Hero

      But remember, people are allegedly done with this shit.

  69. Ed Wuncler

    I’m lucky enough to have a 2 year old and 1 month year old, so if Governor Pritzker wanted to do a vax mandate, they wouldn’t be affected by it for the time being. Saying that though, fuck everyone who wants to force kids to get the vaccine. It seems like there’s a part of the population that wants to keep the covid show going while most of us just want it to end and go back to our lives pre March 2020. And what’s scarier is that these people are willing to destroy other people’s lives simply because they won’t bend the knee.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      /TOG hugs Glibs closer, as with pets and ASPCA ads

    • Rat on a train

      Tuesday’s events reduce the probability of a child mandate here.

    • Swiss Servator

      I am still waiting for Governor Comorbidity to get rid of the idiot mask command. All our neighboring states are laughing at us, and there is widespread disobedience even in Blue areas.

  70. Rebel Scum

    Backward Motor Company

    Ford has become the first major US automaker to announce a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for most of its staff, joining a slew of other major companies that have already done so.

    The automaker told its roughly 32,000 salaried employees about the mandate in a staff-wide note on Tuesday, giving workers until Dec. 8 to be fully vaccinated, CNBC reported.

    The company will consider religious and medical exemptions for employees, a Ford spokesperson said.

    But employees who refuse to get vaccinated and don’t have an approved religious or medical exemption could be put on unpaid leave for a maximum of 30 days. After that, they could be terminated, according to the spokesperson.

    • Swiss Servator

      Wonder what the UAW contract has to say about that…

      • Translucent Chum

        32,000 salaried employees

        They’re hitting their white collar and office staff, not the UAW.

        Notably, some employees throughout the Ford company are not affected by the mandate, including those represented by the United Auto Workers union.

      • Translucent Chum

        some employees

        I hate journalists. There are over 56k UAW hourly employees.