A Question of Integrity

by | Dec 21, 2021 | Foreign Policy, History, Military | 179 comments

The author, meeting the Taiwanese ambassador to Viet Nam.

 

A long, long time ago, fifty years to be exact, I was invited to visit Viet Nam for the second time. I knew that I was due for a second tour and had previously requested an assignment as an adviser. I was hoping for an assignment to the Vietnamese Military Academy in the III Corps area in the Central Highlands. My previous assignment had been in the Highlands, the climate was more temperate and I knew the geography better.

When I got to the Military Assistance Command, Viet Nam (MAC-V) Headquarters in Saigon my request didn’t make much difference. I would be assigned where there was a vacancy requiring my Military Occupation Skills (MOS). I was a captain in the Signal Corps and could do pretty much any field job, Signal Corps wise. I got my assignment as the adviser to the Division Signal Officer of the Seventh Division, Army of Viet Nam (ARVN) in Dong Tam, in the Mekong Delta.

My day job was learning everything that Lt. Col. Chu, the Division Signal Officer, could teach me, which was a lot, about the communications they were using. In addition I was on a roster with the other non combat captains, the Chemical, Quartermaster, Ordnance, Military Intelligence and associated captains that would be flying night reconnaissance (Night Hawk) in our Area of Operations (AO). That job consisted of a helicopter ride, sitting in the back seat with a Vietnamese counterpart and a door gunner with an M-60 machine gun. I would fly about once every 5-6 nights, looking for activity in our AO.

 

Lt. Col. Chu

 

We had a sister chopper with a xenon searchlight that flew with us. The light ship was to fly lower and search the area along the roads and canals, hoping to find a target. The gunship that I was in would fly 180 degrees away in a higher orbit to insure the light ship never illuminated us. In the event we found something of interest the pilot of the gunship would point it out to me on the intercom, I would tell my VN counterpart, he would radio back to The Operations Center (TOC) and request permission to shoot. The TOC kept track of all the friendlies in the area and would then give us permission to engage or not. All this administrative goings on would take several minutes.

On my first flight I met the gunship pilot ,who was also a captain, and the light ship pilot. We got our briefing of what was happening in our AO. I had never flown at night and this would be a new experience . We got up in the air, cruised around and followed some canals here and there. Then the light ship reported camp fires on the ground and suspected Viet Cong (VC). My pilot was explaining that the VC would cook rice on a sand bar near the canal. As we flew around I saw the fire but didn’t see any people but the pilot was seeing the VC. I talked to my VN counterpart, told him the situation and he radioed back to the TOC and got permission for us to shoot.

The pilot was talking to the door gunner and the door gunner shot up the camp fires. We stayed on location, the pilot claimed there were two KIAs and asked me to confirm. I told him I didn’t see any bodies, he explained where they were and I still couldn’t see them. Then he explained that because I was new that was probably the reason I didn’t see them and convinced me that he was right. I then confirmed the two KIAs. The next morning at the daily command briefing it was announced that Night Hawk had two KIAs confirmed.

For the next several days something kept bothering me. I had confirmed something that I hadn’t seen. I reviewed the scenario, over and over in my head. It went something like this:

  1. Since we were the only ones with aircraft the VC would know any helicopter would be the enemy. They would have heard us coming in addition to seeing the searchlight sweeping the canal.
  2. Why would they have a fire in an open area? Could they be locals, farmers maybe?
  3. After hearing us, why would the VC stay in sight, since the canal had a canopy right down to the edge, they could have been under cover in seconds. It had taken us a couple minutes or more to get permission to shoot.
  4. Why couldn’t I see them if the pilot could?

I had no answers for those questions. Only I did have an answer. There were no VC, unless the fires were a decoy. There were no KIAs and I had lied. I didn’t like that answer but it was the only one that made sense. For the next few days it gnawed on me and I vowed I would never do it again. I rationalized that since no one had been hurt it wasn’t the most important thing, except to me.

The next few flights were routine, fly for an hour or two and not see anything. Kind of like going for a ride after dinner. A few weeks later we were up and the pilot saw what he said was a monkey bridge, some bamboo laced together and elevated over a canal. We got permission to shoot and I did see splinters flying, whether it was man made or blown down bamboo, who knows, but at least it existed . A few minutes later the pilot saw something that he said was a sampan submerged under water. He explained that’s what the VC does. I could see something and we blasted away, again splinters were visible. I gave him credit that time but it continued to raise questions in my mind. I wondered if the monkey bridge was not a decoy. I kind of smiled to myself, maybe that sampan had been shot up a few times before and was left there for us to find. In any case I confirmed two kills, a monkey bridge and a sampan.

Sometime later and a few more flights the pilot spotted a VC, we did the call back to the TOC, got permission to engage while the VC waited. The door gunner burned up some taxpayer funded ammo, the pilot asked for a confirmation of one KIA. This time I wouldn’t confirm, because I couldn’t see a body. The next morning at the daily briefing the briefing officer announced one KIA, not confirmed. The senior adviser, a full colonel, stood up, turned around to look at us and asked who was flying back seat. I told him I was and he asked why I didn’t confirm. I told him I didn’t see the body, he said OK and sat down.

 

Capt. Thang

 

Time passes and we’re getting our pre-flight briefing when the call comes in that a platoon of friendlies are taking fire. We ran to the helicopter, jumped in and headed out for the action and arrived on station in a few minutes. By this time the bad guys have disengaged and it’s pretty quiet. The friendlies report that one of the enemy has ran to a haystack in the middle of an open area, a dry rice paddy. The door gunner blasts the haystack and nothing happens. The gunship pilot goes down low level, something he was not supposed to do. He has an AK-47, he sticks it out the window and burns up a magazine at the haystack. Then he takes his 45 caliber pistol and does the same thing. Now we’re only a few feet off the ground and he shoots a couple hand held flares at the haystack, trying to set it on fire. No luck. We went back to the TOC and I reported him to the duty officer.

I rethought that whole scenario over, the VC had time to disengage and yet one hid in a haystack in the middle of a field. It didn’t make sense. What especially didn’t make sense was going low level and putting the helicopter and the five of us on board in danger. The pilot was relieved after that incident, the co-pilot probably ratted him out to his unit commander or maybe our senior adviser had had a discussion with the pilot’s commander. All of my subsequent flights bordered on boring, rarely an opportunity to light up a target and no more internal conflicts for me.

I was closer to my Vietnamese counterparts than to the American members of the team. We all worked in different areas, I rarely saw my rating officer and never in an official capacity. I worked daily with my counterparts, Lt. Col. Chu invited me to his home for dinner, to meet his wife and family. Capt. Thang, the Assistant Division Signal Officer, and I were about the same age and had a lot of good times together. When Viet Nam fell in 1975 I had a lot of concern for those that I had worked with, hopefully they got through everything and maybe made it to the US.

That tour as an adviser gave me a broader insight into myself and the war. It changed my opinions on a lot of things. The numbers that were being fed to the higher commands were not always accurate. A lot of the officers, myself included, were there to pick up a couple ribbons and get our tickets punched. A couple tours in Viet Nam would look good at promotion time. It worked for me.

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179 Comments

  1. Swiss Servator

    Glad you had the guts to call that. Resisting perverse incentives isn’t easy.

    • juris imprudent

      I am tempted to say that the system consists entirely of perverse incentives, but I am hopeful that there authentic and good ones that I’m just not seeing.

    • WTF

      ^This. It’s so much easier to “go along to get along”, it takes a lot of integrity sometimes to be honest.

    • DEG

      Yes.

    • Sensei

      So much this.

      Thanks for the article Fourscore.

      • slumbrew

        Yes, thanks Forescore.

  2. Sean

    You were so young in that pic!

    • Not Adahn

      It’s a testament on how much manufacturing has improved since then. They couldn’t even get the pockets on straight!

  3. Not Adahn

    Then he explained that because I was new that was probably the reason I didn’t see them

    How marvelous.

    • ron73440

      Have to be there a while to learn how to see invisible bodies.

  4. Lackadaisical

    Interesting story, with a good moral. Thanks Fourscore.

  5. juris imprudent

    That tracks with COL Hackworth’s accounts.

  6. Tundra

    I was closer to my Vietnamese counterparts than to the American members of the team.

    This really seems to be a common theme in many wars. Thanks for the story, Fourscore. You’re a good man.

  7. Drake

    The American bureaucratic approach to war for the win / loss / whatever. By the time we’re done nobody cares (except the families of the dead).

    • R C Dean

      win / loss / whatever

      No longer determined by results on the battlefield, or at the negotiating table. The real metrics are profits for the contractors, and promotions for the officers.

  8. R C Dean

    monkey bridge

    Literally shaking, etc.

    It shows the difficulty of fighting these kinds of “insurgent” wars – the precious seconds between target identification and engagement are burned going up the chain asking permission. You need confirmation that its a legit target, I get that, but still, its a recipe for tactical futility.

    • Fourscore

      I did convince the PTB that before we leave the TOC we should know where the free fire zones are, so we could shoot targets of opportunity. I’m not sure why this had never been protocol. It was like a switch being turned on.

  9. Not Adahn

    If the flares had worked, would he have wanted you to confirm his kill of a haystack?

    • Fourscore

      We’d probably have to report a VC incinerated and left no visible evidence

  10. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Thanks 4X20

    The honesty and reflection are appreciated.

  11. kinnath

    Thanks for the story.

  12. wdalasio

    Thank you for the story, Fourscore.

    And kudos on doing the right thing when failing to do so would have been easy.

  13. ron73440

    Good article.

    For the next several days something kept bothering me.

    I have the same issue.

    If I screw up it bothers me, once 10 years ago I was late for work, for some reason, I said I had car trouble instead of just saying I slept in.

    And I still get mad at myself for it.

    • Fourscore

      Those things linger but that’s not bad. A reminder to ourselves

    • Not Adahn

      I skipped work once to get laid and called in with a bogus excuse.

      I feel no shame. Well, I lack that ability in general, but I don’t feel that I committed a sin of any relevant magnitude at that time.

      • ron73440

        Depends how old you are I guess.

        Did a lot of stuff in my younger years for a chance at sex.

      • kinnath

        I got married.

      • ron73440

        #metoo

      • pistoffnick

        I got married.

        That will reduce your chances of having sex (in my not so happy experience).

      • juris imprudent

        I just assumed that was the joke.

  14. Tundra

    I’m wondering how many of the people getting the ‘vid lately flat-out lied about getting the shot.

    I’m not seeing many people in my world, shots or no, even coming down with it. Is this just another fucking psy-op?

    • ron73440

      Had it go through our office twice in the last year and a half.

      Do not know of a single case currently.

      They wouldn’t cancel the NHL games unless something was happening though.

      So in conclusion, I have no idea what’s going on, but am remaining skeptical of the “official” narrative.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I thought it was NHL games in Canada right before Christmas and not risk players being quarantined in country. At least I liked that excuse.

      • ron73440

        Maybe, but there are quite a few teams that are undermanned due to the COVID protocols.

    • Tundra

      Also, I’ve noticed that in discussions of ‘fully vaccinated’, all of a sudden there is only reference to the mRNA. Is J&J being muscled out?

      I have lots of questions today.

      • juris imprudent

        This might answer your question about J&J.

        I got the J&J on the basis that I only needed one shot and it was my contribution to helping stop the spread and getting back to normal.

        I won’t be lied to a second time.

      • Tundra

        Thanks, that’s an interesting article. The comments, too, contained some head scratchers.

        It appears that J&J didn’t grease the right palms.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Pfizer and Moderna are almost exactly identical and based on the same patents. You can’t condemn one without condemning the other and the CDC/NIH have a financial stake in Moderna.

        And Pfizer has immense pockets full of grease for palms.

      • Lackadaisical

        Very Interesting

        As of Dec. 15, there have been 284 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine given in the U.S., compared to 186 million doses of the Moderna vaccine, and just 17 million of the J&J shot.

        Dunno how many triple jabbed there are, but that is a lot of people, if we assume everyone had 2 shots.

        (284+186)/2+17=470/2+17=235+17=252 million fully jabbed people?

        assuming 350 mil populace, that is a 72% rate overall.

        I think both assertions, that the J&J vax might last longer and have broader applicability make sense. You are letting the body find lots of info about the virus using adenovrius than if you just train the body to recognize a single protein.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The adenovirus is just the delivery mechanism. The J&J creates the same results (production of spike protein) as the mRNA vaxes, just with a different intermediary step.

      • invisible finger

        Yep. The other two have clotting issues as well – seems to be directly related to the dosage (Pfizer’s doze is smaller than Moderna’s, which is smaller than A-Z’s). But the smaller the dose the faster the antibodies wane. The article has a lot of bullshit in it – bullshit that is based on Pfizer/Moderna/NIH/CDC p.r. that goes unquestioned.

        I would like to say these spike-only vaxes were worth a try, but not only were the human clinical trials half-assed and hurried (making all the data completely useless), but the same approach hasn’t produces anything of value in decades of animal trials. So it wasn’t worth a try – in fact it retarded progress in early treatment research which resulted in way more deaths than necessary.

      • Lackadaisical

        Reading more into you are correct and I misunderstood how adenovirus vaccines work.

        Wonder what is causing the change in effectiveness then.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        My guess is the J&J doesn’t produce as much spike protein.

        The mRNA shots use a lipid nanoparticle vector that permeates the entire body (even though they’re not supposed to).

      • Lackadaisical

        My guess is the J&J doesn’t produce as much spike protein.

        I should have been more precise, why is the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines apparently approaching zero whereas the adenovirus-based vaccines are holding up better over time?

        Re-reading, they don’t seem to have any evidence to support such an assertion, so maybe there is little real difference over time.

        The mRNA shots use a lipid nanoparticle vector that permeates the entire body (even though they’re not supposed to).

        I (think) that answers my questions about how the mRNA was getting into cells in the first place?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes. The lipid nanoparticles allow entry into the cells.

        And potentially cross the placenta and the blood-brain barrier. But nobody is talking about that possibility other than the few scientists who mysteriously disappeared from the media once they raised their concerns early on.

      • Not Adahn

        Yes. Only mRNA antibodies are technologically advanced enough to defeat Omicron. This is causing a shitstorm in some of the international press in countries that use the AstraZenica or Sputnik etc.

      • ron73440

        I have lots of questions today.

        That’s how they know you’re a wrong thinker and probably need seperated from all the right thinking people.

      • R C Dean

        I have one of these hanging in my office.

      • ron73440

        I like it.

      • juris imprudent

        Must acquire!

    • Raven Nation

      Well, if I haven’t got it, I’ve got a pretty good approximation. Bad symptoms for a day, three days for mild fever to away (last Wednesday). Been tired ever since.

    • Nephilium

      I’ve seen some articles talking about the change in policy for the NFL, with some complaints that the players and the league may decide to just treat COVID like any other respiratory illness (let the players, coaches, and medical staff decide if the players are good to play). The article treated this like it was going to be the death of all players and games everywhere.

      • slumbrew

        The new policy:

        Under the new policy, fully vaccinated, asymptomatic players and staff members are no longer subject to weekly testing. The league will instead turn to targeted testing of symptomatic individuals. Unvaccinated individuals will still be subject to daily testing.

        Which seems like a step in the right direction.

      • R C Dean

        It is. Of course, true rationality remains a distant mirage.

      • Nephilium

        They also are allowing players who tested positive but are asymptomatic to return with just two negative tests on the same day. At least according to local news here in CLE the past couple of days.

      • Ted S.

        Asymptomatic unvaccinated players shouldn’t be subjected to daily testing either.

    • The Other Kevin

      Right now I know many people who have had it recently or have it now. More than at any time in the past year. My kid and SIL are just ending their quarantine. Our friends (a family of 3) just came off quarantine last week. Yesterday my step-mother-in-law came down with it. All at various levels of vaccination and severity. I just talked to our cousin’s wife, who’s a nurse at a hospital, and she confirmed they’re having a lot of hospitalizations. So it seems to be a real spike.

      • UnCivilServant

        Other than myself, who got it early, everyone I know who’s caught the diease had 2-3 injections first.

        These treatments don’t do jack.

      • Drake

        My BIL has it now – not vaxxed. My vaxxed neighbors have it as do several people I know who still work in hospitals (vaxxed or really good at forgery and maybe hacking).

      • Timeloose

        My self and my entire extended family (all vaxed except for my BIL) got sick since Thanksgiving. The BIL was not present for long, but his kids and wife were all sick, he was not.

        The symptoms are verbatim as seen by others on the site. Flu with a loss of taste. I’ve had much worse flu episodes than this.

        In any case, up until 3 months ago almost no one in my circle was infected with 3 or so exceptions. An acquaintance who caught it two times, a remote uncle in VA, and the only hospital visit was from early in 2020 when a great aunt (90+ years old) got it and recovered.

        I have a lot of friends and family and there were more cases in the last 2 months than in the last 2 years.

        Very anecdotal so take it as such. I still have had more in my circle die from ODs, suicide, and other mental health related issues since this began than have been to the hospital for COVID.

    • ron73440

      I’ve seen similar in other places.

      Scroll down and the predictable “gouging and need government to fix it” replies are in full force.

      If only the government would make sure we all could afford a new car.

      • Lackadaisical

        Right after they’re done shutting down car parts plants and mandating more ‘safety features’ be added.

      • Rat on a train

        It is not fair that people won’t sell things to me at the price I want to pay.

      • slumbrew

        If only Comrad Stalin knew what was going on here…

      • juris imprudent

        Comrad StalinNewsome tovarich!

      • Rebel Scum

        I hope that Yugos have improved over the years.

    • UnCivilServant

      Nitrogen Tire fill? Can I get a 78% Nitrogen Fill instead?

      • juris imprudent

        Sure, that will only run you $386.10!

    • Desk Jockey

      Know a couple guys who got the TRX this year. Supposedly they’re going away next year due to gov restrictions on the Hellcat Engine. Might be why the price can get jacked up.

      That said, they’re bad fast and fully loaded.

      • slumbrew

        “fast truck” always struck me as a bad idea, high center of gravity and all that.

      • Not Adahn

        Yup. Lost a coworker who rolled his truck on a curve. He always brought in the best apple fritters.

      • R.J.

        Very sad about that. I hoped to get another one someday but that will quickly soar out of my price range.

    • Translucent Chum

      That’s nutso before the market adjustment.

    • Penguin

      It says “Van Nuys”. I’m pretty sure that’s in California.

      • UnCivilServant

        I thought they were claiming that they were selling a nice van.

      • Penguin

        It better be for that price.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      Paying for the privilege of buying it from Russel Westbrook. The problem is that he’ll probably drive the truck himself and not let anyone else use it.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Yes it can.

      I’m seeing lead times of 9 months or more for construction equipment with prices increases of 20% and up for the new year.

      You can guarantee that when you have the only new ten foot riding trowel in the country and someone needs it, they’ll pay whatever you’re asking.

  15. R C Dean

    I was just thinking while perusing the news on my lunch break:

    Its hard to believe Biden has been President less than a year. The volume of excrement impacting air circulation equipment seems to exceed what should be possible in that time period.

    • Tundra

      They are trying to cram everything in before next election. Say what you will about the commies – they do not waste time once they get power.

      • DEG

        Yes.

      • kinnath

        I keep thinking just how much worse it could have been without Sinema and Manchin slowing things down.

      • Rebel Scum

        Allowing two people to derail the agenda of the most popularly elected president in history is white-supreme terrorism and treason.

        *sweeps the other half of the senate under the rug*

    • Not Adahn

      We’ve got DOOM! production down to a SCIENCE!

    • Lackadaisical

      Had the same conversation with a work buddy of mine.

      Inconceivable that the past year has sucked so much it felt like two, tell ya what, 4 years of Trump swam by fast.

  16. DEG

    This is an interesting story Fourscore.

    • Lackadaisical

      Best reply thread:

      “I live in NW Florida, what can I do to help?”
      Pepe Response:”Move”

      Second best:

      “You should get an OnlyFans account”

    • Fatty Bolger

      [Insert erection day pun here]

    • Not Adahn

      Recall that a push up bra selfie helped carry carter over the finish in ’76

  17. mikey

    Thanks 4X. I’ve always been glad I was able to avoid SEA in my time in the Chair Force. ‘Course that meant I missed out on all the good PX deals on stereos and cameras. Not to mention the ceramic elephants

    • Lackadaisical

      If you travel south from Donkey Town you get to loose bottom?

      • pistoffnick

        But if you go north through Nasty, you’ll get to Wetwang!

  18. Penguin

    Fourscore, thanks for letting us know. As someone who has worked with data most of my professional life, I’ve learned many of it’s limitations. It’s too bad Bill McNamara never did.

    • Penguin

      Shit. Robert McNamara.

    • Gender Traitor

      These victims are obviously not doing enough to protect themselves from “shoot & stabs.”

    • rhywun

      SF mayor reversed a “defund” operation too.

      Guessing the DNC is behind this.

      • The Other Kevin

        These are career politicians who know which way the wind is blowing. Biden’s been around long enough that he should be like that, but he’s stubbornly sticking to a losing ideology. Which is another indication he’s not in charge.

      • juris imprudent

        Old weathervanes are known to rust into pointing a single (wrong) direction.

    • Penguin

      OTOH, patrolling Chicago streets seems like a really good use for ATF agents.

      • Not Adahn

        Better than what they’re doing now.

    • Rebel Scum

      But Trump was “muh-fascism” for sending feds to defend federal property.

    • invisible finger

      The old “gangs will go away when the guns go away” canard.

      If anything, the ATF will just find a new profit center.

      • juris imprudent

        They’ll go back to being the gangs of West Side Story donchaknow. Just misunderstood yutes.

    • R C Dean

      She doesn’t want more flatfeet patrolling the streets, or even detectives running down suspects. She asked for the ATF. She wants her some gun control, some high profile busts of guns that “crossed state lines”. She obviously doesn’t give a crap about violent crime, but she’s a leftist, so she hates guns.

      The “ATF” is the giveaway.

      • rhywun

        Yep. Same story in every city run by the Dem machine.

  19. Lackadaisical

    Did you know that Diversity (capital D) is the secret to why capitalism works?

    Reason told me so.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      They still think the Left will love them if they just use their buzzwords enough.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      I’m not going to watch the video, but true diversity does contribute to capitalism. We all have diverse abilities and desires. You can use your abilities to create something I want and vice versa and we can engage in consensual commercial activity.

      • slumbrew

        This is true. But that’s not the sort of diversity they mean.

      • Lackadaisical

        Absolutely agree Roberto.

    • rhywun

      The “look at Apple and Microsoft” argument in favor of… whatever they’re trying to argue for there – immigration? refugees?… was always one of the dumber trains of thought over there.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, that’s less an argument that diversity per se makes companies more productive/profitable. Its more “saving a bunch on labor” makes companies more productive/profitable.

      • rhywun

        They are literally saying that America is too sclerotic to come up with a “computer company” or “social media” or whatever. It’s ridiculous.

        Something something correlation something causation.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Diversity in tapping different talents…absolutely, but I am guessing that isn’t what they are talking about.

  20. Rebel Scum

    If only the weather in FL didn’t suck.

    With Gov. Ron DeSantis seemingly on board with the idea of dropping the requirement that legal gun owners in Florida obtain a government-issued license before exercising their right to bear arms, the prospects of Constitutional Carry becoming law in the Sunshine State are now high enough that we’re starting to see the media freakout over the prospect begin in earnest.

    This weekend, the Sun-Sentinel newspaper had a big feature on the impending fight over permitless carry, and while they note that similar legislation has been filed in recent years only to quietly die in committee, this year the momentum behind the movement appears to be having an impact.

    As you might imagine, “constitutional carry” is a biased term.

    “There’s nothing constitutional about it, at least not now … So that’s the term that gun industry and gun activists want you to use. But it’s a very biased term,” said Allison Anderman, senior counsel and director of local policy at Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

    Cry about it.

    • Plisade

      There’s nothing constitutional about the 2nd amendment. Who knew?

    • Lackadaisical

      There’s nothing constitutional about it, at least not now

      That is a strange way to say it is required by the constitution, but we’ve been ignoring it lately.

    • Ghostpatzer

      dropping the requirement that legal gun owners in Florida obtain a government-issued license before exercising their right to bear arms

      Oh, the horror. If this happened in NJ, law-abiding citizens would have the same right to bear arms as criminals currently do. There are already too many guns going around shooting people, we can’t have this!

    • R C Dean

      There’s nothing constitutional about it

      I wonder what her copy says? Because mine says “The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

    • rhywun

      My Florida co-workers rave about the weather but I know they’re pulling my leg.

    • Penguin

      Yeah, the weather here is terrible. It’s been drizzling/raining all day, which makes the 70° temperature a little chilly. I almost needed another shirt over my t-shirt.

  21. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Interesting. Uphold (crypto trading outfit) just instituted a photo ID requirement in order to access your account.

    This is probably just the beginning of a federal crackdown on crypto.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Please verify your identity now – it’s a super easy process: just upload your Government-issued photo ID and take a matching selfie. It shouldn’t take more than a couple of minutes.

      We’re really sorry, but in the meantime we’ve had to apply temporary account restrictions. (If you’re signing up, we won’t be able to open your account until ID verification is complete.)

      Don’t worry, you can still trade your existing balance, but you cannot withdraw or deposit funds – until you complete this process.

      • pistoffnick

        Know Your Customer banking laws? I got the same run around from PayPal after buying bitcoin cash from them.

    • R C Dean

      OnBase has had that for awhile, I believe.

  22. Sean

    She seems fun.

    Insane. I meant she seems insane.

    • Lackadaisical

      Better increase that dose of Xanax, Doc.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m flying today but I’m not fucking around with Omicron.
      Pfizer x 3
      Negative rapid test
      Natural immunity
      N95 sealed to my face with surgical tape
      Secondary mask for displaying opinions
      Face shield
      Vinyl gloves
      Touchscreen gloves
      Shitton of Xanax

      Her faith in Almighty Science is overwhelming.

      • Fatty Bolger

        ✔ Problem glasses

      • Nephilium

        Until she passes out from oxygen deprivation.

      • Rebel Scum

        Charles Darwin strikes again…

      • rhywun

        Secondary mask for displaying opinions

        “I AM DUMB”

      • Ownbestenemy

        An industry was created out of thin air and wholly subsidized by Pharma and Gov. This shit isn’t going anywhere

      • Nephilium

        I saw fabric masks with fake Santa beards built on them at the pub crawl Saturday. I avoided talking with those people, and instead enjoyed talking to the other unmasked people who were willing to share tables, make room at the bar, and attempt to have a good time.

      • Ownbestenemy

        As God intended His people do.

      • R C Dean

        Negative rapid test

        She appears to believe this provides protection against catching the ‘Vid.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Completely un-selfaware

      https://twitter.com/telefeminism/status/1472402661202874373

      Maybe I’m just a Grinch but I feel like we should stop making Christmas movies that tell children that all you need to do is believe a thing to make it true and start making Christmas movies that tell children that science is real.

      • pistoffnick

        *chants*

        “I DO believe in Fauchy! I DO believe in Fauchy!”

        /sorry, Tinkerbell. Cant do it.

    • EvilSheldon

      “Shltton of Xanax”

      You don’t say?

      • R.J.

        Sounds like a formal title “Please welcome the Shitton if Xanax, ruler of North Umbrage.”
        Sorry, I am trapped in the world’s longest agile training class and only crappy dad jokes are stopping the pain.

      • rhywun

        I drank an ale in Shitton once.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I thought maybe that was a minor character in The Witcher

    • Not Adahn

      @telefeminism

      • slumbrew

        Using data to track equity on TV

        I bet she’s a blast at parties.

  23. Ghostpatzer

    Some scary stuff there, Fourscore, thanks for writing it up. I missed out on that party by getting a draft lottery number of 132 in a county where 80 was the cutoff. When I am asked what I would do if I won the lottery, I explain that I already did.

    • kinnath

      I had my draft card, but was never given a lottery number. They stopped the year before I turned 19.

      • Ghostpatzer

        A lucky whippersnapper, you are.

      • Lackadaisical

        My pops had a low draft number, but they ended it just as his lottery was coming up.

      • kinnath

        I registered at age 18. Then draft and registration went away the next year. I got married, had kids, and worked for a while. The economy went to shit, and I decided to go to school in the early 80s. By then, registration for selective service had been started back up. And it became a requirement for a bunch of college-related stuff. This caused me no end of grief as I had to explain countless desk jockeys that I had “been there, done that, didn’t need to do it again”.

    • Ownbestenemy

      While the State is there they will document any red flags they might find also a detriment to “public health”. Good job NYC

    • Sean

      That team gonna get mugged.

      • Penguin

        “You signed up for this”

  24. Rebel Scum

    Dishonest cunte is dishonest and cuntey.

    Jesse Watters told TPUSA attendees to get in Fauci’s face and confront him on his role that led to the Covid-19 pandemic.

    “Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot? With an ambush? Deadly. Because he doesn’t see it coming,” Watters said Monday night.

    Fauci said Watters should be fired on the spot.

    “That’s awful that he said that. And he’s going to go, very likely, unaccountable,” Fauci said on CNN. “I mean, whatever network he’s on is not going to do anything for him. I mean, that’s crazy. The guy should be fired on the spot.”

    “The only thing that I have ever done throughout these two years is to encourage people to practice good public health practices: to get vaccinated, to be careful in public settings, to wear a mask,” Fauci said. “And for that, you have some guy out there saying that people should be giving me a kill shot to ambush me? I mean, what kind of craziness is there in society these days?”

    Indeed. What kind of craziness is it that you get to lie about everything including an analogy without consequence?

    • Ownbestenemy

      If by “encourage” you mean use the full force of the USGov to force people into your dystopian outcome, then…sure.

    • Animal

      But when Maxine Waters, an elected official, said the same thing – only meaner – about Trump supporters…

      ***Crickets***

    • The Other Kevin

      And be unaccountable!

      • Lackadaisical

        That was the other laugh

    • Lackadaisical

      to wear a mask

      Surprised he went there, given he has admitted to lying about it.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Please report to the nearest Politco Office for such radical misinformation.

  25. Ownbestenemy

    I need to carry a book in my car. Teen therapy won’t let him come alone so I have to sit around for 45-hour. Maybe my new (1940s) Viking Poems for English Speakers will be my time sink

    • slumbrew

      It’s why I can’t quit Kindle – I always have a book or 50 available.

  26. Ownbestenemy

    Gotta hand Biden and Team some credit for their new COVID approach….it is Eleventy!!1!1! FEAR factor. FEMA? Military? More ventilators? 10 billion tests a minute?

    I give the US in name, 5 years tops.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      More ventilators?

      Really?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep and Dr. Wen, the scariest TV doctor alive is coming out against cloth masks….and people need to not cheer that. That is a sign we will see mask restrictions tighten to only N95 allowed to enter a building.

      • R.J.

        Imagine the mountains of waste. Mother Earth will cry out and demand retribution!

  27. R C Dean

    I larfed.

    First seen (by me) in a Fenix Ammo email.

  28. Threedoor

    I saw similar stuff in Iraq on a smaller scale. E7 and up got a meritorious bronze star every trip they took. The brown boxing E6s got them as well.

    The entire unit went to go to Iraq and support the unit so we could be in Iraq.

    The green machine does not change.