Monday Morning Links

by | Feb 7, 2022 | Daily Links | 410 comments

Well…bye!

Once again, no sports on this side of the world. Across the pond, the FA Cup matches were quite a lot of fun. Especially watching Liverpool cruise and ManUre get bounced out.  League matches resume midweek. And that’s pretty much all I’ve got.

Looks like a party to me.

The media are doing everything they can to create a bogeyman. Well it ain’t gonna work. Even with all the glowie shit going on to sabotage it, everybody knows these guys aren’t doing anything bad aside from inconveniencing people.

The media are doing everything they can to create a bogeyman. Well, it might be working, as he’s already starting an apologython rather than just ignoring them.  Also if anybody doesn’t see the hypocrisy in this, then they’re blind as a bat.

This is gonna shake things up a bit. In an industry that’s definitely in need of a shakeup. Of course it probably won’t end up mattering. They always get bailed out anyway.

They simply don’t care about appearances anymore.

I had to check the date after reading the headline. Because it could have been written pretty much any time in the last 20 or so months. The only problem is that the “team” has become so entrenched in protecting itself that their voters don’t really care anymore.

If only they’d leave their failed ideas behind as well. But I fear they’re bringing them along and it will gradually turn our states into the shitholes they are leaving behind.

Well of course they’re going to appeal. They can’t bear the thought of their power being stripped away.

Man, what a gyp. Send that weather where people can enjoy it…like one or two of the free states.

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. And by “nice”, I mean an asshole. And by “guy”, I mean a lizard in a skin suit.

Here’s a lovely song. It might even be my favorite from them since it’s such a departure from the rest of their catalog. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do every time I hear it. And on the off chance you don’t here’s a more traditional song of theirs.

And I also hope you enjoy this lovely Monday.

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410 Comments

  1. UnCivilServant

    Even with all the glowie shit going on to sabotage it

    Could someone please tell me what a ‘glowie’ is?

    • sloopyinca

      It means the feds, or antifa losers, are doing it to undermine the actual protesters by getting them tarred as Nazis, racists, or something else the public abhors.

      • UnCivilServant

        So where did the term derive from?

      • sloopyinca

        See Not Adahn’s explanation.

    • Not Adahn

      “So obvious it glows.” The updated version of “like an FBI agent at a love-in.”

      Although “how do you do, fellow kids” probably also belongs in that continuum.

    • waffles

      The feds glow in the dark, hence the name glowies. It’s a reference to a statement made by a schizophrenic programmer in a live chat who made his own operating system, TempleOS. He’s dead now but his probably biggest legacy is glowies.

    • Jerms

      Could someone please tell me what a ‘glowie’ is?

      That sounds like something a glowie would ask.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m only an Assistant Handicapper General.

  2. Fourscore

    “Georgia Democratic nominee Stacey Abrams was slammed for posting a maskless photo”

    I read that as topless, I can’t stop shaking and my stomach….

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Have you seen her maskless though?

  3. CPRM

    “anyone found bringing fuel to the demonstration trucks in red zone could be subject to arrest and charges.”

    Hate Crimes!

    • Fourscore

      I’d like to leave but I’m out of fuel

    • sloopyinca

      Those poor truckers. They’re going to be stuck there when they run out of fuel…in two weeks.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        An idea only government could have cooked up.

      • Drake

        Yes!

      • Zwak, holding the spinal column of JFK wrapped in Marilyn Monroes neglegie

        I have seen a couple different versions of that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was starting to happen.

        Also, fill them with water, it makes the whole thing look realistic.

      • Drake

        I have a can of gas with 2-stroke oil mixed in I need to get rid of before I move, If I was closer, I’d bring it.

  4. The Late P Brooks

    We’ve all been taken for suckers. The liberal elite is out partying in the Hamptons, at French Laundry and in luxury suites while the rest of us get bullied and condescended to.

    Enough! These people aren’t worth listening to, they aren’t worth voting for. This isn’t about science. It’s about control. Want to know why Americans have lost faith in government? Look in the mirror, you feckless jackasses.

    Welcome aboard. Better late than never, I suppose.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    Molotov Cocktails!

    Terrorism!

    • sloopyinca

      I got into an argument with some nitwit on Twitter last night about it. He said the 90% of Canadian truckers that don’t agree with the 10% that are protesting will simply pick up the slack and those 10% will get fired or no company will hire them to move their goods when this is done.
      The best part is that he was earnest in his statement, even after I explained how the transportation industry has a lot of owner-operators who pick up loads from load boards or through brokers and that even a 10% loss of trucks would create massive problems.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Dude its only 10%, like if everyone just worked 44 hours a week instead of 40 that will cover the 10% gap.

      • sloopyinca

        Right? He didn’t have a clue about ELDs and how these guys are all pretty much up against their hours each week already and that they literally can’t pick up the slack without breaking the law. And when I told him, he just waved it off by saying “they’ll just excuse it for that 90%”.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        It’s similar to the gender pay gap. If 10% of truckers are unnecessary, then why are they employed in the first place? If women can be hired cheaper than men, then why would you hire men…

      • PieInTheSky

        then why would you hire men… – because you hate women more than you like money

      • Certified Public Asshat

        The obvious solution is to replace the truckers with women.

      • PieInTheSky

        But you would then need male prostitutes at truck stops.

      • kbolino

        More like, the male prostitutes would have to switch teams.

      • slumbrew

        See, also, The Rooney Rule in the NFL – it’s predicated on the idea that NFL owners dislike minorities more than they like winning.

        Which is ludicrous.

      • Bobarian LMD

        The male prostitutes would just have to start dressing differently.

      • kbolino

        Dime-store Marxists argue capitalism leads to massive overproduction just to boost profits and spite the workers, when in reality today, most industries are running on razor-thin margins and suffer massively (though not necessarily immediately) when even minor disruptions occur.

        Of course, one could argue we don’t actually have capitalism, at least not in the sense Marx originally meant, but the average “Marxist” can’t or won’t recognize that.

      • DEG

        Huh.

        I’ve heard this before with respect to hospital workers fired for not getting vaccinated. “It’s only on the margins! It doesn’t matter!”

  6. Not Adahn

    NPR finally did a story aboot Gordi’s folx. It was much boo-hooing about how Ottawa is “also a residential neighborhood” and the residents are “living in hell.”

    Actual exchange:

    NPRmonkey1: “What are the protestors demands?”
    NPRmonkey2: “There’s a range, but there are definitely Qanon believers and links to the far-right.”

    The last part was about how the cops in other cities were much “better” about “clearing out the protestors.”

    • Grumbletarian

      Of course, if it’s a BLM or antifa protest then the cops would be brutalizing the poor protestors. Fuck NPR.

    • rhywun

      Side-LOL – I have my desktop set to show Bing’s wallpaper of the day and today it is a lovely tableau of skaters on the river in Ottawa with what I guess are the gov buildings in the background. I have no idea if this is a coincidence or some sort of commentary.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Très jolie it is, anyway.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s definitely commentary.

        The midwits who are employed to choose things like that are obsessed with political signaling.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, like February gets the expected racial stuff.

        But this seems… counter-intuitive. All’s fine in Ottawa!

    • Rebel Scum

      The leftist obsession with Qanon is fascinating. Then again, it is just another means of denouncing their opposition as crazy bigots of some form or another. Though it is also curious how being against pedophilia could be construed as a bad thing. The (few) Q people may be nuts but their hearts are in the right place.

      • Tundra

        There are more than a few grains of truth in their unhinged shit, though. A smart IC would be way out ahead of the mob with an easily discreditable out-group.

        “Those crazy fuckers believe that there are pedos at the highest levels of the Cathedral! Let’s shun them!”

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Most of the more than 60 criminal investigations underway in Ottawa involve hate crimes, property damage, thefts and mischief, police there said.

    Let’s see a breakdown.

    • Sean
      • rhywun

        The Monopoly money… ??

    • Fourscore

      “60 criminal investigations” and that’s just the police, we haven’t seen any from the party goers

  8. rhywun

    Also if anybody doesn’t see the hypocrisy in this, then they’re blind as a bat.

    Speaking of…

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Both people the Rock apologized to, Don Winslow and Cheri Jacobus (?, she has a blue check though!) have unsavory past tweets. Then people stated pulling bad clips from the Rock’s WWF (when it wasn’t WWE) days.

      Shoe said it best:

      leftism is when you hate the podcast man and the more you hate the podcast man the more left you are— Shoe (@shoe0nhead) February 1, 2022

      • rhywun

        It’s just an orgy of cancellations now. Hopefully the whole thing will destroy itself and social media shrinks and winks out of existence with a small “popping” sound.

    • PieInTheSky

      whataboutism !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. The Late P Brooks

    While mostly acting peacefully to voice their disapproval of recent vaccine mandates, demonstrators’ tactics of idling trucks and blocking motorways have become a greater nuisance with each passing day for residents and businesses.

    The majority of businesses in downtown Ottawa have been closed for more than a week or have been operating with reduced hours, and owners are complaining to city officials of financial difficulties as customers dwindle.

    I thought they wanted the country shut down. What are the odds the wrong people are suddenly finding out what happens when the music stops?

    • Fourscore

      Liquor stores are essential

      • Sean

        Damn right!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      What happens when all the little Atlases shrug?

      (Forgive my repeating myself: I like the metaphor, though I never got far into that amphetamine-addled book.)

    • Not Adahn

      Businesses shut down by protestors = Bad.

      Businesses burned by protestors = Good.

      Businesses shut down by Governor’s degree = “oooooh sooooo goood!” *cleans up mess with sock*

    • sloopyinca

      The majority of businesses in downtown Ottawa have been closed for more than a week or have been operating with reduced hours

      True but misleading. Most of them have been closed or operating with reduced hours for nearly two fucking years.

    • R C Dean

      “demonstrators’ tactics of idling trucks“

      These people have never even been around big rigs. They idle constantly, especially in cold weather.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Diesel will turn into paraffin at sub-zero temps. Idling circulates the fuel thru the injectors and back to the tank, keeping the fuel from gelling.

        *pushes taped up glasses up nose*

      • UnCivilServant

        At what temperature does diesel gelatinize? Is it exactly 0F? Higher? Lower?

      • Bobarian LMD

        I think it depends on the formulation, but roughly at -10 F.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Belay that, went and looked. Diesel can start to gel at 32, but -10 is the cloud point, where the paraffin starts to actually solidify. Formulations and additives can change those points some.

    • Rebel Scum

      The majority of businesses in downtown Ottawa have been closed for more than a week or have been operating with reduced hours, and owners are complaining to city officials of financial difficulties as customers dwindle.

      It’s just two weeks to flatten the curve.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Crippling protests- BAD

    Crippling government fearmongering- GOOD

  11. Certified Public Asshat

    Two weeks ago, the Surgeon General said that the Omicron surge hadn’t peaked yet and that the next few weeks would be “tough” with cases continuing to riseCases are down 60% sinceHow do they do it? They’re literally always wrong pic.twitter.com/efcyTh9aso— Ian Miller (@ianmSC) February 6, 2022

    Quick, release the next variant.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    I can’t help noticing when the CNN article mentions arrests for stuff like scattering nails in the road and egging vehicles and ramming pedestrians they make no mention of which side the victims are on.

    Weird, right?

    • PieInTheSky

      The victims are victims only if they have the correct opinions

  13. PieInTheSky

    The media are doing everything they can to create a bogeyman. Well, it might be working, as he’s already starting an apologython rather than just ignoring them. Also if anybody doesn’t see the hypocrisy in this, then they’re blind as a bat.

    I really like how the lefties learned to scream whataboutism when it is pointed out that their side did worse. They truly are NPCs. Also whataboutism is not and never will be a thing.

    • WTF

      Never apologize. They only take that as an admission of guilt and step up the intensity of their attacks.

    • Gadfly

      Also whataboutism is not and never will be a thing.

      What-about-ism is when you try to change the subject to deflect criticism, not when you turn criticism back around on the critic in the same subject. What-about-ism is bringing up health-care and literacy rates in a discussion of human rights abuses, whereas bringing up the human rights abuses of a critic of human rights abuses would not be what-about-ism.

  14. PieInTheSky

    Canada-Style Covid Bedlam Goes Global With Protest in Australia

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/australasia-top-stories/canada-style-covid-bedlam-goes-global-with-protest-in-australia/ar-AATyanS?OCID=newswrap

    A group of anti-vaccination demonstrators and conspiracy theorists have blocked roads and targeted businesses in the Australian capital of Canberra ahead of the return of federal parliament on Tuesday, in an echo of similar protests in Canada.

    Hundreds of cars and trucks waving Australian flags, military insignia and campaign banners for former U.S. President Donald Trump descended on the city over the past week calling for the end to vaccination requirements in businesses and places of employment.

    • rhywun

      They left out “Nazis and KKK members”. C’mon Australia, you can do more.

      • kbolino

        They’re busy scouring Wikipedia to find the Australian “equivalent” of the KKK first.

      • Zwak, holding the spinal column of JFK wrapped in Marilyn Monroes neglegie

        Well, in Ireland they were called Black and Tan’s. I am sure there is something more appropriate.

    • Gadfly

      …and campaign banners for former U.S. President Donald Trump…

      Strange, but I also saw the same in several pictures from Canada. I wonder if it’s trolling, false-flag actors, or just people using his stuff as a symbol of screw-the-establishment sentiment.

      • hayeksplosives

        There were a ton of Let’s Go Brandon flags and banners at the VFW swap meet Saturday. Of course, here in Pahrump, nobody was offended.

  15. PieInTheSky

    To be honest I am not a fan of blocking roads as protest, depending on the roads, If it is a road needed by an ambulance to get an emergency to a hospital, than that protest can kill innocents.

    • Urthona

      Ditto

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Not my favorite type of protest either, but they needed to escalate beyond the day-long protests that were easily ignored and blacked out by the government-media complex.

      • PieInTheSky

        Maybe but I do not support this when the climate assholes are doing it in the UK I do not support it when truckers do it either..,

      • Urthona

        What I was thinking as well.

        Right wingers go nuts when left wingers “occupy” things. Especially if they block access to things.

      • Not Adahn

        I was under the impression that the truckers were NOT actually blocking the roads though. I know at the border crossing, they were letting traffic through.

      • Urthona

        Good.

      • DEG

        I think the Coutts folks are back to blocking off everything except emergency vehicles (i.e. ambulances).

        They opened up one lane each way when the Alberta government said they would vote on ending restrictions. I read a report that they went back to blocking off the border crossing except for emergency vehicles.

      • Ozymandias

        If you can’t distinguish between climate change protesters and the people in Ottawa, that’s on you.
        A method of protest/resistance is inextricably entwined with the underlying issue.
        Is using force wrong? Generally yes, but not in self-defense. See? If the underlying issue is righteous, the methods used to achieve almost become irrelevant.
        Is it wrong to lie? Usually, yes. Was Oskar Schindler therefore wrong for lying to the Nazis? (Don’t answer – I already know the correct response).
        The climate protesters are wrong for shutting down highways BECAUSE THEY’RE FUCKING WRONG ON THE ISSUE. PERIOD.
        Too many squishes without the stones to make moral judgments focus on the method as a way of avoiding getting into the underlying issue.

      • Not Adahn

        If the underlying issue is righteous, the methods used to achieve almost become irrelevant.

        Ah yes, the “punching up” defense. AKA “no bad tactics, only bad targets.”

      • Ozymandias

        Nope – close, but not quite. You still didn’t answer my point. You’re fixated on the TTPs and you think they can be judged detached from the merits of the underlying issues.
        I said nothing about power dynamics, but thanks for re-writing what I said.

      • Ozymandias

        In fact, I even noted the climate hippies are wrong, but you still sauntered past that (with snark) to make yourself feel smarter, rather than addressing what I actually said.

      • Not Adahn

        Nah. You’re begging the question that “righteousness” is something that can be determined. The climate protestors might actually be right about global warming causing lots o’ deaths. I don’t think they are, but but any “big issue” caries enough uncertainty that most tactics are off the table for me. Self defense is a very small, arms-length situation. I doesn’t involve policy or people beyond the immediate combatants. Once you try to generalize it at larger scales, industrial horror is NBD.

      • Ozymandias

        Right. So the truckers should just get the jab, shutup, and quit being disruptive.
        “Just lie back and take it for Canada. The experts know better.”
        Intellectual laziness as a justification for refusing to make hard moral choices.
        “I wonder how we got in this mess?!?” /all those *principled* libertarians

      • Not Adahn

        Concrete example: Your work stopping the mandatory anthrax vaccine is important, and if you were successful in stopping it, you would have saved lives. And yet, AFAICT, you never went with tactics beyond “being a lawyer.” FFS, you could have paid some witnesses to fabricate testimony, or bribed a judge, or even engaged in violence to get the decision you needed. Mobsters do it all the time.

        So even as justified as you were, you ruled out almost every option available to you to achieve your goal other than a small, previously sanctioned few.

      • Not Adahn

        And LOL at “for the greater good” being a “hard moral choice.”

      • Ozymandias

        NA – you have zero idea what I endured over the anthrax vaccine, so you should probably just save yourself from saying more stupid shit beyond what you’ve already done.

      • Ozymandias

        Everyone wants Freedom, but no one wants to stand up for it.
        Worse yet, make sweeping denunciations about each and every attempt to push back because “blocking MUH ROADS!!!”
        I wonder how we got here.

      • Not Adahn

        What you endured is not the same thing as what you chose to do. Point out where I’m wrong instead of just slinging “stupid.”

      • Ozymandias

        See, NA, now you’ve turned the argument onto “me” without ever answering – not once yet – my point. So, no, I’m not playing your game. But if you’re curious, see my reply to Urthona below. Only one of us is arguing in good faith right now. Maybe you could take the time to actually read and address what I’ve said about the difference between the truckers and the climate change commies. And whether or not the merits of each side’s position matters as to methods used. (Hint: it does. You’re wrong. Just acknowledge it – or just consider that maybe you’re less right. But I know you can’t and won’t just admit you’re not 100% correct, so I’m done playing with you.)

      • Not Adahn

        so you should probably just save yourself from saying more stupid shit beyond what you’ve already done.

        Yeah, telling someone to shut up is totes arguing in good faith.

        without ever answering – not once yet – my point.

        That’s because you don’t actually have one. You pretend to, you probably even think you do, but you haven’t actually articulated one.

        Only one of us is arguing in good faith right now.</blockquote.

        It ain't you.

      • Jarflax

        Nah. You’re begging the question that “righteousness” is something that can be determined. The climate protestors might actually be right about global warming causing lots o’ deaths. I don’t think they are, but but any “big issue” caries enough uncertainty that most tactics are off the table for me. Self defense is a very small, arms-length situation. I doesn’t involve policy or people beyond the immediate combatants. Once you try to generalize it at larger scales, industrial horror is NBD.

        emphasis added

        This is exactly what I mean when I say libertarianism is utopian and impotent. It is why I don’t hang out here anymore. I know I am prone to navel gazing, hell I have a degree in Philosophy, but when you believe things like this you are basically saying “I will revel in my smug superiority when they drag me to the gulag knowing that I chose not to sully my purity by fighting back.” Ok, that is your choice to make, but don’t expect applause.

      • Brochettaward

        There is nothing utopian about Firsting. And The First That Will Change Everything is coming. Have you heard the word?

      • Not Adahn

        “I will revel in my smug superiority when they drag me to the gulag knowing that I chose not to sully my purity by fighting back.”

        Mebbe read the very next sentence? You bothered to copy/paste it after all.

        There is a (yuuuuge) difference between being willing to do things that involve me/mine and an actual, clear, real physical situation and voting to have other people use their guns to compel third parties because of theoretical nth order effects.

      • Not Adahn

        I say libertarianism is utopian and impotent. It is why I don’t hang out here anymore.

        How many agents of the state have you liquidated today?

      • Jarflax

        Oh I read it, I just think it reduces the right of self defense to something meaningless. If you wait until the Stasi comes to your house to fight them you go to the gulag. You have to fight long before that, and it will always require taking some risk of harming an innocent.

      • Jarflax

        How many agents of the state have you liquidated today?

        None, but since we are talking about supporting or condemning a peaceful protest at this stage I am not sure that is relevant. My point is that condemning the first significant pushback for blocking the streets is a silly level of purity, not that you should go shoot cops because the laws are not as you like. Hint: maybe if we are willing to have a street or two be blocked now, we can avoid shooting people later.

      • Not Adahn

        So again, why haven’t you jumped off the boog?

        Saying that you have to fight “them” before “they” come to your door still requires that “they” actually exist in the first place.

      • Jarflax

        Because 1. I am not interested in martyrdom, 2. at this point in time it would simply give the other side the moral high ground, and 3. I think grass roots protests like the Canadian truckers have a real chance of doing some good so I don’t whine about the fact that they honk their horns or make Ottawa crowded. I know you think you are catching me in some shameful inconsistency, but all you are doing is the same nonsense the left does. “Oh you are ok with honking horns! You must also be ready to shoot cops! But you don’t cause you are scared, you are a hypocrite lol”

      • PieInTheSky

        “If you can’t distinguish between climate change protesters and the people in Ottawa, that’s on you.
        A method of protest/resistance is inextricably entwined with the underlying issue.” – if my child/wife/mother was in an ambulance and could not get to the hospital the distinction would not be relevant.

      • Pine_Tree

        Oz – agreeing with you, and adding some slightly off-topic commentary since you hit a pet issue of mine…

        Yeah, lying’s generally wrong. But when it comes to a tough issue, you gotta go back to first principles – in this case the 9th Commandment (bearing false witness against your neighbor).

        Did Schindler lie? Yep. Did he bear false witness against his neighbors? Nope. Not guilty.

      • Urthona

        I generally am cheering for this to put an end to covid nonsense, but you did have to admit it’s because of the issue itself.

        Also, it is absolutely fun to see leftwingers hypocrtically go all apeshit over this.

        On the other hand, if truckers are blocking access or keeping people up at night.. I get it…

      • Ozymandias

        I guess the Founding Fathers were wrong then, and all of the America-haters were right. Because the Founding Fathers used physical violence (and pretended to be Natives, but fooled no one) during the Boston Tea Party over the Townsend Act/Duty, which was a 2 pence tax on tea. That’s it. They destroyed property and used violence over a small increase in the price of tea. Tea!?
        Some here profess to be shocked at the indolence and apathy of the American people, yet simultaneously argue that it’s wrong to block a road when the government is threatening to forcibly inject people with an experimental (and deadly) product or steal their livelihood…
        But here we get pearl-clutching and moral equivalence claims because someone, somewhere might (maybe, hypothetically) be adversely affected.
        And yet folks here will also profess to be confused about how we got here. Try the mirror.

      • Urthona

        I’m totally ok with using violence though. Against the target.

        Did the founding fathers harass ordinary citizens?

      • Ozymandias

        Of course not. And despite NA’s repeated attempts to rewrite what I’ve said, I’m not advocating for “kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out.” I’m just amazed at all the “freedom lovers” who find a way to make the truckers in the wrong here because MUH ROADS ARE BLOCKED!!! Because they’ve previously been pissed at the climate hippies for the same thing. Maybe, just maybe, I know it hurts the post-modernist (and aspie) mind, but maybe there’s a substantive difference in the merits of each’s claims. Maybe that’s why Extinction Rebellion are assholes and the Canadian truckers aren’t.
        To your point, Urthona. I used the Boston Tea Party for a reason, just as I used the examples above for a reason. I never advocated, for example, for raping the wives of commies as a way of re-asserting Freedom. NA would rather win an internet argument twitter-fashion rather than substantively addressing what I’ve said, however, regarding how the underlying merits of an issue matters in the justification of the techniques used. It does. That’s why 9/11 was a war crime. That’s why our conduct – as a Nation – even in war, matters. (I have other reasons beyond that but this is already too long for internet argument rules).

        340 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), onboard the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. The damage the Sons of Liberty caused by destroying 340 chests of tea, in today’s money, was worth more than $1,700,000 dollars. The British East India Company reported £9,659 worth of damage caused by the Boston Tea Party. According to some modern estimates, the destroyed tea could have brewed 18,523,000 cups of tea! The destruction of the tea was a very costly blow to the British. Besides the destruction of the tea, historical accounts record no damage was done to any of the three ships, the crew or any other items onboard the ships except for one broken padlock. The padlock was the personal property of one of the ships’ captains and was promptly replaced the next day by the Patriots. Great care was taken by the Sons of Liberty to avoid the destruction of personal property – save for the cargo of British East India Company tea. Nothing was stolen or looted from the ships, not even the tea. One participant tried to steal some tea but was reprimanded and stopped. The Sons of Liberty were very careful about how the action was carried out and made sure nothing besides the tea was damaged. After the destruction of the tea, the participants swept the decks of the ships clean, and anything that was moved was put back in its proper place. The crews of the ships attested to the fact there had been no damage to any of the ships except for the destruction of their cargoes of tea.

      • R C Dean

        I’m totally ok with using violence though. Against the target.

        I’m a little reluctant to escalate all the way to assassinations, myself. Let’s try an intermediate step first.

        the underlying merits of an issue matters in the justification of the techniques used

        I’ll admit, “the ends justify the means” makes me itch. It is a very close relative of “by any means necessary”.

      • Ozymandias

        Why are libertarians seemingly unable to argue in shades of gray rather than absolutes? JFC.
        It’s not “the ends justifies the means.” At all. Not even a little bit.
        It’s this – “The preservation of Freedom requires sacrifices and confrontation with those who would take it from us. The earlier, the better because it ultimately costs less bloodshed.”
        So yes, the truckers blocking the road is 100% A-OK. If it interferes with an ambulance, I feel for those people whose lives might (maybe) be disrupted. But I sure as fuck don’t blame the truckers for that. Maybe, just maybe, that’s the government’s fault?? You know, the people who locked everyone down, destroyed people’s businesses, ruined children’s lives, have killed people with this jab….
        But I guess “MUH ROADS!!!” works as a libertarian argument, too.

      • Not Adahn

        but maybe there’s a substantive difference in the merits of each’s claims. Maybe that’s why Extinction Rebellion are assholes and the Canadian truckers aren’t.

        Maybe there is. But you haven’t established it. You’re just assuming it is. You’re assuming that the substantial difference exists, and that you know it. And you sure as fuck haven’t done any kind of risk/benefit analysis or even established the basis of such a thing.

        You don’t know that XR is wrong. That fact that you don’t get this makes me question your basic understanding of epistemology. But you’re not shy about passing moral judgment on anyone that doesn’t agree with your assumptions.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’m totally ok with using violence though. Against the target.

        Did the founding fathers harass ordinary citizens?

        A very large number of ordinary citizens will inevitably be killed if violence is used against the targets. It would mean escalation to a bloody rebellion at minimum and possibly an outright civil war.

        The trucker protest is another peaceful attempt at preventing that bloodshed. Is it better that ordinary civilians be inconvenienced as a tactic before facing the mayhem and destruction that holding the ones accountable will lead to?

        I would understand if people in Australia, New Zealand, and Canada rebelled under the boots of their oppressors. That would come with the blood of many, both those responsible and those innocent. I also understand if people want to try to other options, like a trucker protest, before choosing an option where there is no going back.

      • Jarflax

        Libertarianism is impotent because it is utopian. The desire for an ideologically pure answer to real problems leads to a spiral of rationalization. Hence you have libertarian arguments that we can privatize national defense, courts, and protection of lives and property, as well as arguments like this where the first serious attempt by the citizenry to drag back some control over their lives from the elites is denounced because the roads are blocked. We are imperfect humans living in an imperfect world, perfect solutions do not exist. Fighting evil will inevitably involve some amount of harm to innocents. We have a choice, try to maximize gains in liberty while minimizing harm, or navel gaze while congratulating ourselves on our pure adherence to ideological consistency. Anarcho-capitalism is nonsense. Minarchy is an aspirational goal not an achievable one. What is possible is to move the needle in the direction of more liberty. The truckers are doing that, we should support them.

      • Mojeaux

        Jarflax!!!! You’re back!!!!

      • DEG

        Howdy Jarflax

      • EvilSheldon

        Well said, Jarflax.

      • Jarflax

        Wait, Mojeaux is happy to see me? After the AFC championship? 🙂 I am almost a football fan again.

      • Mojeaux

        I have my own thoughts on that game, which aren’t necessarily flattering to you guys, but I can appreciate a worthy opponent.

      • PutridMeat

        I guess my ‘arbitrary’ line is positive vs negative rights.

        If you are protesting against government restriction on your natural rights, in favor of your ‘negative’ rights (even if I don’t like the terminology, negative rights are really the only kind of rights), I’m going to give you some slack. If you are protesting to have the state impose restrictions on natural/negative rights and in favor of your positive rights and to impose restrictions and obligations on others, I’m not cutting you any slack.

        Is it completely consistent? Maybe not, but it’s better than the territory that Ozy *seems* to stray into of ‘these people are right, so it’s OK” – but a more generous (accurate?) reading would be that he is comporting with the above formulation. I think it’s relatively easy to differentiate rights from positive ‘rights’ – who’s right and who’s wrong, less so.

        The efficacy of any particular form of protest is a different question. But if anyone hasn’t watched pastor’s speech that was posted a few days ago, I urge you to do so.

      • Bobarian LMD

        This, right here.

    • kbolino

      Canada has had a COVID regime stricter than all but the bluest areas of the U.S. The government is openly colluding with major corporations (e.g. GoFundMe) to enforce this regime. The Conservatives have so far offered no real opposition to Trudeau. And also unlike in the U.S., where at least some governors have openly opposed the Federal government, every Canadian province seems to be in lockstep with what Trudeau wants.

      There may have been other options available, but they would likely have been even worse.

      • Urthona

        All true.

    • DEG

      The folks at the Coutts, Alberta border blockade have been allowing ambulances through. Rebel News has some video of it happening.

      • PieInTheSky

        my comment was more generic than referring directly to the truckers. The climate hipsters in UK explicitly did not allow ambulances through

  16. The Late P Brooks

    The urgent desperate need for a national social credit registry

    The number of disorderly passengers on commercial airplanes has skyrocketed during the pandemic. Now, one airline executive is renewing his call for a national unruly passenger no-fly list.

    Edward Bastian, CEO of Delta Air Lines, sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland last week asking for the federal government’s help in setting up a nationwide no-fly list for people who misbehave — sometimes violently –on planes.

    “In addition to the welcome increase in enforcement and prosecutions, we are requesting you support our efforts with respect to the much-needed step of putting any person convicted of an on-board disruption on a national, comprehensive, unruly passenger “no-fly” list that would bar that person from traveling on any commercial air carrier,” Bastian said in the letter shared with NPR.

    Here’s an idea. Why don’t you do away with the stupid pointless ineffectual rules and focus on providing a desirable valuable service to your customers, you gutless fuck?

    • rhywun

      They can’t while Biden’s diktats are still in place. Hell, all the security theater too. Everything that makes flying suck ass now was put in place by the feds – and people are clearly fed up with it. People who are fed up with shit often have bad manners as the last two years have demonstrated with crystal clarity.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Just fly private! /sarc

        O, deo volente…

      • pistoffnick the refusnik

        Just fly private!

        I’ve only had the opportunity to fly privately a couple times, but it is SOOOOOOO much better. Just walk through the FBO without getting sexually molested and get in your waiting airplane.

        In one case a 6 hour car drive was replaced by a 2 hour plane ride. That same trip flying commercially still would have been 5 hours with layovers, transfer, etc.

        /works for a plane manufacturer

      • PutridMeat

        If I ever get ‘fuck-you’ money the very first thing I’m doing is buying into a private jet share – unless the f-u money is enough to buy and maintain my own!

      • DEG

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the airlines were in on much of this.

        Especially Delta. I have frequent flyer miles with them and have received many e-mail newsletters about their Lil Rona Panic Response.

        The CEO is a True Believer in the Covid Cult.

      • rhywun

        The CEO is a True Believer in the Covid Cult.

        Or he’s just virtue signaling or currying favor.

        In the current climate we don’t really know – not that it matters. Vid theater is just another form of political correctness now.

      • DEG

        I think he’s a True Believer.

        I read those e-mails about the “science” and his expert that he brought into the company to help advise on Covid safety.

        True Believer.

    • Plinker762

      I’ve done a fair amount of air travel the last two years and have yet to see any unruly passengers.

    • sloopyinca

      They’re asking the government to do their job of vetting customers? And they’re doing so in a way that would violate the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the constitution? Not to mention it’s a form of punishment before conviction.

      Fuck that guy and fuck Garland for not immediately telling him to fuck himself.

      • kbolino

        The yin and yang of our political system.

        The major corporations have been doing the yeoman’s work of enforcing the government’s new rules. They’ve scratched the government’s back. Now it’s time to get their back scratched.

      • Contrarian P

        Yeah between that and the whole “we’re going to pull out of Georgia because the vote didn’t go the way we wanted” ID law from a few years ago I’m about sick of Delta.

    • Gustave Lytton ????

      a nationwide no-fly list for people who misbehave — sometimes violently –on planes

      So the majority of these “misbehavers” are non-violent? Why would there need to be a federal list then? Oh that’s right, it’s about increasing the penalty that Delta can dish out. Not just fly on our airline, but any airline.

      And let’s ignore the myriad ways the airlines, before and after covid, have made air travel more stressful and contentious.

    • rhywun

      To be fair, I would not want to be around all those idling trucks. But desperate times….

    • EvilSheldon

      This is more correct than you probably realize.

  17. Drake

    Spotify is screwed. I wonder if they have the guts to stick it out and make themselves a free speech platform?

    If they cave and fire Rogan, they still have to pay him – while losing probably half their subscribers. Now it sounds like they’ll need to remove half their catalog of rap songs with offensive content. That should put them in nice death spiral.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Morons managing to the weekly stock price.

      The problem with a boom cycle is that it creates a horde of business leaders that have no idea how to handle actual difficulties and overreact to transient problems, making them worse.

      • Contrarian P

        You’ve summed up almost all the problems with healthcare in one sentence. We’ve got loads of alleged leaders who couldn’t lead a starving dog to a bowl full of savory meat.

        I’ve lost count of the number of emails I’ve gotten from assholes in administration reading something like “I’m proud and humbled to stand alongside such selfless heroes in this time of pandemic”. Meanwhile, I never see them set foot in a clinical department to actually stand alongside or, God forbid, speak with the people they’re addressing to find out their concerns or needs.

        I’ve never been much on Marx but I have to say the idea of the actual producers throwing out feckless leeches is looking quite appealing right about now.

      • Homple

        The Canadian truckers might teach the the email-and-zoom-call-job caste a lesson about who is, and is not, an essential worker.

      • kbolino

        The emergence of the professional-managerial class and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

      • Gadfly

        That’s an interesting proposition. On the one hand, management is a distinct skill that is essential in large organizations and one cannot necessarily get good managers by simply promoting out of the productive workers as the skill-set that makes a good productive worker is different from that which makes a good manager. On the other hand, good management requires familiarity with what is being managed, so creating a class of managers that is detached from the production line will lead to disaster. You somehow have to have a management class that is familiar with the production line.

      • Mojeaux

        I was once hired to be a project manager of something I didn’t understand. It was a miscommunication between a green head-hunter and the hiring party. It was hell on all of us.

      • kbolino

        I suppose a better way to put it is that the democratization of management is a grave error. The world does need strong, capable leaders. It just needs as few of them as possible. More concentrated power in fewer hands is actually a good thing, even though it goes against everything we’re taught.

        Large, deep hierarchies full of middle managers and other functionaries produce predictable results (right up until systemic collapse/cascade failure) but they come at a great cost: monetary (revenues wasted on salaries/benefits for useless people), social (the emergence of a class that fancies itself fit to govern), spiritual (modern managerial work is just institutionalized laziness), evolutionary (need more women/minorities filling these seats instead of eliminating them), etc.

      • Gadfly

        Interesting. I can see that. Reminds me of the old phrase (possible not PC) of having “too many chiefs and not enough braves”.

    • rhywun

      they’ll need to remove half their catalog of rap songs with offensive content

      There is no way that happens. But I would LMFAO if it did.

    • R.J.

      Yes. Seems like Rogan was playing 4D chess when he gave this last concession. And here I was disappointed in him when I heard about his second cave.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Heather McDonald was in the middle of explaining to her audience of how she was double vaxxed and boosted when fell over on stage and cracked her skull.

      That’s just solid commitment to the bit.

    • Drake

      Pretty funny. I would have laughed.

    • Q Continuum

      Nothing says comedy like schoolmarm lectures about doing what Big Brother says.

    • waffles

      This is what made me make the connection to the ski school story I posted below. I am now officially paranoid, a shot-dodger too.
      Ugh, well at least the truckers are giving me hope. We may yet be done with this.

  18. robc

    I DEMAND A REFUND.

    As I said yesterday (and sloopy clearly didn’t see, but still should have come up with on his own), today needed a “The Wood Pops The Cherries” headline. Liverpool and Man U? That is who gets FA Cup coverage?

    I am disappointed.

    • UnCivilServant

      There is a $50 processing fee for your $0 refund.

    • sloopyinca

      Oh man, can’t believe I missed that. That’s magnificent.

      • robc

        Even if you missed the magnificent headline, how did you not mention Boreham Wood winning?

    • Ted S.

      You know Sloopy’s a star-fucker who only cares about “his” teams.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    They can’t while Biden’s diktats are still in place. Hell, all the security theater too. Everything that makes flying suck ass now was put in place by the feds – and people are clearly fed up with it. People who are fed up with shit often have bad manners as the last two years have demonstrated with crystal clarity.

    Exactly. But instead of lobbying the FAA and TSA to lighten up, they want them to flog harder.

    • WTF

      Because morale hasn’t improved yet.

    • WTF

      She misunderstood thinking her fame would protect her and her family from brutal retaliation for speaking out.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Meanwhile, the sky waitresses’ union does everything they can to make the passengers miserable. Maybe the airlines need to yank the waitresses’ chain good and hard.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I hear the ME and Far Eastern airlines have been deferential for decades. How they treat female passengers, IDK.

  21. Not Adahn

    Also from NPR, there is an organization dedicated to suing Republicans out of existence. NPR was gushing about their latest attempt to get a R-congresscritter declared ineligible ’cause INSURRECTION!

    This organizations name is… https://freespeechforpeople.org/

    • WTF

      What is it with the left calling things the exact opposite of what they actually are? Do they really think they’re fooling anyone?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Only themselves.

      • kbolino

        The facade only needs to fool the normies, and it only needs to hold up long enough to achieve some objective. Lather, rinse, repeat.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Heather McDonald was in the middle of explaining to her audience of how she was double vaxxed and boosted when fell over on stage and cracked her skull.

    I was hoping it was strident Law and ORDER Heather McDonald.

    Bummer.

  23. waffles

    An Indian developer sued my city for discrimination when his project was held up and later cancelled. He sued the city naming a Public Works director whose wife is Indian. But I guess that doesn’t matter these days. Popehat on the case.

    https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1490505661590827008 CWAA.

    • Not Adahn

      Accusations of racism require no proof.

      They only way you can prove you’re not racist it to have a certified, notarized declaration from the Emperor of Black People in Wakanda.

      Or vote D.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Or vote D.

        Not enough anymore. Now you have to vocally agree with all of the latest prog-fascist talking points.

    • kbolino

      John from H&R was 100% right about Ken White and I’m sorry I didn’t see it sooner.

      • Not Adahn

        It’s easy to excuse self-righteous sadists when they’re on your side. I was the same way.

      • EvilSheldon

        Ditto.

        I was even willing to let him off with a, ‘Trump broke his brain,’ but no. Ken was always a piece of shit, and I let his wit blind me to that.

  24. PieInTheSky

    So I got my mouth guard thing it is going to be a bitch sleeping with that

    • Drake

      Vampire fang jokes incoming….

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      You get used to it.

    • robc

      You adjust pretty quickly. I wore one for teeth grinding back 10-15 years ago.

      I also recently started using a CPAP and you quickly get used to it.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    A couple of days ago there was a headline about how the sky waitresses were OUTRAGED by Southwest’s decision to resume in flight alcohol service.

    The fleas think they should be running the circus.

    • PieInTheSky

      I am sure the vietnam bikini airline girls serve alcohol with a smile

    • Nephilium

      /looks at the drink coupons Soutwest mailed me in the halcyon days of late 2019.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    So I got my mouth guard thing it is going to be a bitch sleeping with that

    Don’t swallow it.

  27. Rebel Scum

    Most of the more than 60 criminal investigations underway in Ottawa involve hate crimes, property damage, thefts and mischief, police there said.

    *sneezes*

    I’m allergic to bullshit.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Is there a better endorsement of mandatory masking than Stacey Abrams?

    • PieInTheSky

      that is racist sexist and transphobic.

      Cancel The Late P Brooks. Make him The Late Late P Brooks

    • Q Continuum

      Genuine LOL.

  29. PieInTheSky

    @DionneGrant
    Viola Davis shares the first look at “The Woman King”, a historical epic inspired by true events that took place in the Kingdom of Dahomey, one of the most powerful states of Africa in the 18th and 19th centuries. The film also stars Lashana Lynch, Thuso Mbedu and John Boyega

    @eigenrobot
    i mean like
    who thought this was a good idea
    how did this get made
    is this another chris rufo op

    https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1490597634096070661

    • waffles

      If it was a Chris Rufo op he would have claimed it and described every last detail of his plan like an anime villain.

      But we make movies celebrating slavers now, if they’re the right kind of slavers.

  30. Rebel Scum

    Joe Rogan’s mouth has put Spotify in a tough spot. Anti-coronavirus vaccine comments and racial slurs on some episodes of his popular podcast are forcing the streaming service to weigh difficult choices.

    Except he wasn’t even calling someone a nagger and even if he was I still wouldn’t care. ///LeaveJoeRoganAlone

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Is this even remotely surprising to anybody? Spotify will cave. They will eat the contract fees, and they’ll lose a substantial amount of business over this. The idea that a tech company is equipped to or even wants to resist the woke TMITE-SMITE mob is ridiculous. For every person who has a twinge of principle over free speech, there are 10 in spotify’s legal, comms, creator relations, and executive who are Borg drones, willing to do anything in furtherance of the hive mind.

      • Gustave Lytton ????

        Not to mention vocal agitators in the employee base. I doubt Spotify doesn’t have those either.

  31. Rebel Scum

    This is gonna shake things up a bit.

    The 404 message shook up my morning a bit.

    • Homple

      #minetoo

  32. Q Continuum

    “financial changes that will probably result from the Federal Reserve’s decision to end a prolonged era of free money and make borrowing more expensive”

    When your industry is loaded with “unicorns” that somehow have enormous marketcaps in spite of never turning a profit I would imagine this would be a problem.

  33. Rebel Scum

    But I fear they’re bringing them along and it will gradually turn our states into the shitholes they are leaving behind.

    Styx recently claimed this was a fallacy. I guess time will tell.

    • Urthona

      It is. The people leaving blue states are on average red.

      When you have things like Texas being surprisingly close to liking Beto, you think it’s because of implants. But really it’s just ordinary unpopularity or certain politicians like
      Trump.

      One argument, though: blue states are becoming bluer and red states are being redder. By people voting with their feet. This makes for a much more fractured and uncomfortable america. Is it good that the states are becoming more different?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The people leaving blue states are on average red.

        IME (having interacted with more than a few expat Californians here in Texas), they are on average red for California, which translates to being a squishy moderate here in TX. I know a few exceptions to that generalization, but they were well outside of the mainstream in CA.

        I’ll be interested to see the county by county breakdown of north Texas this election. I think Collin County might be uncomfortably purple due to the influx of Californians.

      • Urthona

        That my be true, but Californians losing their squishy Republicans may not be as harmful to Texas as they think.

        My entire extended family is from Southern California and most now live in N. Texas, but two more just moved during Covid.

        Including my cousin whose daughter wanted to play volleyball to get into college (and wasn’t allowed to in locked down California). They are about as red as you can get. Redder than me for sure.

      • Homple

        “Including my cousin whose daughter wanted to play volleyball to get into college….”

        Too bad about the 6’4″ coed-with-a-dick that takes her place on the team.

      • Urthona

        !@#$!@#$

      • Urthona

        BTW, this was pointed out to me the other day… but North Texas (Dallas) is now the 4th biggest metroplitan area in the United States and will overtake Chicago to become 3rd in about 20-25 years if trends continue.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

      • Urthona

        Amazing when you consider Dallas was the size of Tulsa in the 60s and mostly fields.

    • kbolino

      The largest element that turns a state blue is not immigrants from other states, it’s the children of the people who already live there. No matter where you are in the U.S., the school system is to the left of the residents. You are always at most one generation away from a major leftward lurch.

      • Urthona

        Maybe why that is the biggest fight in Texas right now. … the schools.

      • kbolino

        Yes. The schools are a major programmer of children’s minds. However, focusing only on the K-12 schools is not enough. The mass media (Disney, HBO, Netflix, etc.), higher education, and gatekept social media (Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, etc.) have to be tackled as well.

  34. Rebel Scum

    Chicago Public Schools says masks will remain despite ruling

    So it is insurrection then?

  35. waffles

    At ski school yesterday I saw a 12 year old girl collapse in the lodge and have to be taken out on a stretcher by an EMT crew. I have never seen anything like that in 10 years of teaching skiing. I don’t know any details but it made me think that maybe vaccinated all the children will cause some nonzero number of events like this. Maybe I am paranoid. But it’s different seeing someone collapse versus reading about it on social media, that’s for sure.

    I really don’t want the booster.

    • PieInTheSky

      ski school? Just take them to the top of the slope and give em a push

      • rhywun

        That is pretty much how I learned.

      • rhywun

        PS. It was terrifying.

    • Q Continuum

      After the people with heart problems have all died off, I’m waiting for the precipitous drop in birthrate. It’s already known that the spike likes to accumulate in the female reproductive tract, it’ll be interesting in 15 years when these teens start trying to have kids and can’t.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        ???

        It has a particular affinity for the ovaries. There’s no telling what damage is being done.

      • Sean

        Same.

      • waffles

        Yeah, I can’t tell if I’m just being sensitive or if something is going on. The problem is, if something is going on, which institution is going to alert the public after they burned all their credibility pushing the vaccine? None. No trust left. This sucks.

      • Drake

        Undertakers and life insurance underwriters.

      • R C Dean

        And I’ve stories that undertakers are having a banner year (which just means excess deaths, not necessarily COVID or vax caused). and life insurance is getting hammered (ditto).

        The devil is in the details.

      • Urthona

        According to FactCheck.whatever this isn’t really happening.

        It seems like there’s something.

        But I may be biased as well because I read stuff like “The Gateway Pundit” which is interesting but may also be horribly cherrypicked.

        I am someone who got vaccinated and then developed myocarditis btw. It took also 6 months for me to get back to normal. I am not a young man. In my mid 40s.

      • EvilSheldon

        The cherries have to be blooming to be picked…

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yes. However, I do try to temper my own conclusions by remembering that a one in a million death happens pretty much every day in this country.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Maybe I am paranoid. But it’s different seeing someone collapse versus reading about it on social media, that’s for sure.

      I really don’t want the booster.

      I had some trouble again on Saturday. I had to lift a calf and carry it several hundred feet uphill. I had chest pains again and tingling in my arm. Dropped to the ground a couple times afterwards and my wife was all set to call an ambulance. I can bike an steady 20 miles no problem, but something about the sudden bust needed for carrying that calf just set something off. I’ve never had anything remotely like this occur before getting the J&J. If there is some connection between myocarditis being revealed after pushing yourself hard, I can see why athletes appear to be dropping at a great rate or at least more prominently.

      I won’t be getting the booster now for any reason come what may. And my wife and kids will remain unjabbed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Get that checked, dude.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        ^^

        Undiagnosed heart issues tend not to resolve themselves.

      • DEG

        Yes.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Wife said the same thing, but I’m not convinced anything helpful will come from it. I had a full workup done on my heart a couple years ago and it was healthy as a horse. I’m waiting now for a clock to tick down to be able to purchase term life and don’t want to reset it.

      • R C Dean

        Wife said the same thing, but I’m not convinced anything helpful will come from it.

        Only one way to find out. As someone who works with a major cardiology program, I can tell you that there are very solid advances being made.

        Get. It. Checked. Out. Don’t make me call your wife.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The best insurance policy for your family is your continued ability to remain out of a coffin.

        And the insurance company is going to run blood work. If you have markers for a cardiac problem, they’re going to see it. You can’t hide it.

        Besides, we like having you around.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Arc flash ain’t no joke.

    • pistoffnick the refusnik

      It’s a floor polish AND a drink mixer

      We used to do shots of mint extract when working in the restaurant kitchen.

      At least our breath smelled good afterwards.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’re trying to provoke a violent reaction so they can really crack down. Obvious dirty playbook is obvious.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Those in charge aren’t going to relinquish power.

        Just think of how stupid Trudy is. He’s dumb enough to risk all out civil war.

  36. DEG

    The great migration during the pandemic has seen Americans flee high-tax Democrat-run states and flock to Republican-led low-tax or no-income-tax states, a study by The Tax Foundation found.

    Who could possibly have seen this coming?

  37. DEG

    Surprise, Surprise

    The man charged in Winnipeg for an attack on a convoy protest is a radical far-left anarchist. Police, however, are still treating the incident as a hit-and-run, rather than a hate crime.

    Four people taking part in a convoy protest in Manitoba’s capital city were injured and rushed to hospital after a car plowed into the crowd. The man alleged to be the driver of the vehicle, Dave Zegarac, was taken into custody an hour later after a brief struggle with police. A white jeep can be seen hitting one person, before accelerating and hitting three more.

    • Nephilium

      Quick, check to see if the white jeep had any communications with the SUV that crashed into that Christmas event!

  38. Pope Jimbo

    Canadian Truckers = Bad!
    Minnesoda Car Caravan for Amir Locke = Good!

    Actually it is good. Minneapolis big wigs need to be taken to task for allowing no knock raids.

    Demonstrators traveled through Minneapolis in a car caravan Sunday evening to demand change after a police officer shot and killed Amir Locke last week in a downtown apartment.

    The 22-year-old man died last Wednesday morning during a no-knock raid at the Bolero Flats apartment building. He was shot within 10 seconds of a Minneapolis Police Department SWAT team entering the apartment — with the use of a key — while executing a search warrant in connection to a St. Paul police homicide case. MPD Interim Police Chief Amelia Huffman confirmed last Thursday that Locke was not named in the original warrant.

  39. Not Adahn

    I will add to those who have recommended Amazon’s reacher

    Now here’s the part where I bitch about things in a show I liked. All of it is minor stuff. Some of it is undoubtedly due to the author being a Brit (driving distances v. flying distances) but some must be from the director.

    Gun technobabble. If you’re going to have it, get it right for fucks sake. Don’t say “9mm. 95 grain, so it must have been subsonic.”

    “Primary characters use a pistol” trope. Double LOLs for leading a hit team while carrying a five-shot snubnose revolver.

    Waif-fu. It’s stupid when it’s a woman, and it’s stupid when it’s a guy. a 150# dude does not win a punch-up against a 6’20” 345# guy who can grind cell phones into pieces with one hand.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      LOL

      It’s a decent show, but it lacks some of the attention to detail the movies had.

      I laughed at the “big pistol so it must be able to shoot through a 12 inch diameter log bit.”

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, if it’s a rotten and hollow log…

      • Not Adahn

        I liked the way that it violated some of the usual tropes. Like the way the big bad gave his villain’s monologue while there was still an hour left.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I haven’t finished it yet.

        But the South American special forces that can’t hit the broad side of a barn in the form of Alan Ritchson was pretty sad.

    • kinnath

      I enjoyed the show.

      The good stuff is quite good. The dumb stuff is fairly marginal compared to most mainstream content {acknowledging the gun stuff is quite stupid in places}.

      • Not Adahn

        I like the way the pie ended.

      • kinnath

        Yes.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Go stand in front of that tank while I watch from back here

    Investors should short government bonds with higher interest rates now being “inevitable” around the world, a strategist has advised.

    Speaking to CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” on Monday, David Roche, president and global strategist at Independent Strategy, shared his fixed income outlook amid an uncertain economic climate.

    “In terms of bonds alone, my stance is that I would be short the whole lot of them,” he said. “Short [German] bunds, which have now got a positive yield, short BTPs in Italy and short U.S. Treasurys … I would say I would most certainly be short [U.K.] gilts too because we’re going to see quite a phenomenal inflationary spiral in the U.K.”

    I would be completely penniless if I had shorted Treasuries every time I thought it looked like a sure thing.

    • robc

      The only thing I have ever really wanted to short was SCOX. I would have made money, but it would have been painful the first few months and nerve-wracking the rest of the time.

      • slumbrew

        Ah, Suck-O. I hated working on that.

  41. Rebel Scum

    Someone has a case of the Mondays.

    Two guys in Harlem open fire on each other near dozens of innocent people. A bus was hit, but luckily nobody hurt. Check out the guy drinking his coffee and managing to keep his cool as bullets are flying past him. Crazy!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I always dance around like Muhammad Ali when aiming my firearm. It definitely helps.

  42. DEG

    Ottawa mayor wants a mediator and more on the city government’s response.

    Ottawa’s mayor is calling on the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government to appoint a mediator in an effort to end the ‘Freedom Convoy’ occupation in the city’s downtown.

    Jim Watson said he has suggested to federal ministers that a mediator could be “an honest broker on both sides to try to find some common ground, if that’s possible.”

    “Someone of great stature in our community and the country who can actually open doors and bring some peace and calm to the stuation,” Watson told CTV Morning Live. “That’s one option that I think the federal government should pursue, because right now we’re at a complete standoff.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      A mediator would imply a compromise position could be reached. I don’t think Trudeau will go for it. He’s shown no indication that he’s willing to give an inch.

      • Zwak, holding the spinal column of JFK wrapped in Marilyn Monroes neglegie

        It isn’t The Hair that Walks Like a Man who needs to be convinced, it is everyone else. And when they are all against him, he goes down in a No Confidence vote.

        If the mayor of Ottawa wants a mediator, it means the gov is already failing.

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      bring some peace and calm to the stuation

      As far as I’ve seen, it’s been both peaceful and calm from the jump (except for the dance parties – those were just peaceful)

  43. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    My friend is in a training, and as an icebreaker they want everyone to say their favorite movie. She was drawing a blank because she was so hemmed-up by wanting to say the “right thing”.

    I told her it sounds like a virtue-signaling opportunity and my first instinct would be to say something like Jackass just to be an irreverent contrarian. I don’t think she’ll go with my advice.

    • UnCivilServant

      “What’s a movie?”

      • UnCivilServant

        “The Ten Commandments”

        “Death Wish”

        “Lord of War” but not for the reason the director wanted.

        “Predator 2” (I don’t get the hate some people give that one)

        Trying to think of other answers to troll the virtue signallers that I’ve both watched and don’t hate.

      • UnCivilServant

        I have a digital copy somewhere, but I never watched it.

      • Homple

        My Little Chickadee

      • Timeloose

        All of the SAW series and Falling Down.

    • Not Adahn

      Two good options.:

      “Frida”

      *foreign words* “it’s [nationality]. You probably haven’t heard of it.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Blazing Saddles

    • slumbrew

      “Secretary”

      • Not Adahn

        Eeeew. Who TF put dead cockroach in the bed to ignite sexytimes?

      • slumbrew

        It’s such a weird movie, in a good way.

      • Not Adahn

        I had an ex-GF who loved that movie. She was waaaaay too much work.

      • Mojeaux

        *small voice* I liked it. *small voice*

    • Zwak, holding the spinal column of JFK wrapped in Marilyn Monroes neglegie

      Kiss of the Vampire.

  44. Rufus the Monocled

    Definition of evil:

    Politicians gaslighting the public saying truckers are preventing small businesses from opening up. You mean the very same SME’s you didn’t care about for two years and shut down on a panic stricken whim over a virus with a 99.985% rate? You mean those small business owners? The Liberals are all over this. The cognitive dissonance really deserves led now. Speaking of psychos, Quebec Premier Legault has been the worst when it comes to embracing restrictions. He has acted like a complete dick throughout – worse than Murphy and Newsom I submit. He said we would not tolerate the convoy, get this, DISRUPTING THE LIVES OF CANADIANS. All he did was not only disrupt but RUIN lives with his measures. It’s really unbelievable.

    But hey…apparently Covid made them do it.

    Notice how during this hysteria how the criminal bandits in media and politics dehumanized and demonized nurses, small business, kids and now truckers. They hate you.

    Come out Justin you coward. He’s such a rat he’s letting a hapless Ottawa police chief and Mayor (who sucks Chinese small penis) to fend for themselves. He’s also letting every hack Liberal speak on his behalf in the House of Commons while he plays Waldo hiding in a cabin like the a typical despotic waste and sad excuse of a human being this piece of shit is.

    As for GoFundMe. If I were them I’d sue the living shit out of Ottawa police, the Mayor and the Feds. They were lied to. And it can easily be demonstrated. They were played by liars. All they’ve done is LIE for two years. There is no violence or racism. It’s stunning that even ONE person believes this – even a low-information, remedial IQ individual should be able to see this crap from a mile away. SUE THEM.

    • UnCivilServant

      How are you holding up, Rufus?

      • Rufus the Monocled

        To all. Thanks. Holding up ok. Just can’t believe this shit.

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      Hi Rufus

      • Drake

        Saw your restaurant recommendation yesterday – will give it a try sometime. Travelers Rest seems nice.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        My dad lives in TR and I’m there frequently. Meetup!

        I’ll likely be moving to eastern TN as well, so there will be more opportunities to hang out

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I’ll likely be moving to eastern TN as well

        My dad just moved to Knoxville last year. Beautiful area!

    • Not Adahn

      WB Rufus!

    • kbolino

      GoFundMe is a willing participant. They weren’t duped.

      • Gustave Lytton ????

        Yes. That was merely the excuse they used for what they already wanted to do.

  45. Rebel Scum

    Get a lighter.

    Today was my first time experiencing the frozen door handle of doom.
    @elonmusk can we add an option to open the door from the app?

    And good luck starting it.

    • Not Adahn

      The windows on my loaner MINI Countryman froze shut.

  46. Rebel Scum

    Seriously, guys. Stawp it…

    Couldn’t imagine sending my kid to one of these hellhole schools!

    This attack popped up on social media last night. It is being reported on CCSD groups as happening at Las Vegas High School. No comments from
    @CCSD or police.

    No, it’s fine. Just stand there. Do nothing.

    • rhywun

      JFC.

    • Fourscore

      That’s a serious beat down. The other kids just sitting there…

      No teacher in the room

      We had kid in high school that must have had a bath phobia. He got a surprise package one morning (a bar of soap and a wash cloth), From then one he was a changed guy and found a girl friend.

      • wdalasio

        No teacher in the room

        It looked to me like there was a teacher in the room. If you look at the end of the clip, there’s a woman standing around with a fish face.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    GoFundMe is a willing participant. They weren’t duped.

    I want to see shareholder lawsuits against GoFundMe for willful fraud and value destruction.

    • kbolino

      The shareholders are also in on it. It’s called ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) and “sustainable investing”. Only small individual shareholders would have reason to sue but they’d be unlikely to prevail.

  48. DEG

    Aussie border to open to tourists, but only if you are double vaccinated.

    Australia’s financially crippled tourism sector is breathing a sigh of relief, with inbound travelers now able to visit the country for the first time in nearly two years.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Monday revealed double-vaccinated international tourists will now be able to enter Australia from February 21, sparking an end to mass border closures brought in at the beginning of the pandemic.

    • UnCivilServant

      “Please, flood our hospitals with heart attack patients!”

    • Rufus the Monocled

      My theory is double vaccinated-boosted people don’t travel. If the vaccinated transmit (which they do) what is the fucken point of mandates? Moreover, they don’t halt transmission. END THIS MADNESS ALREADY! It’s a cult.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    I’m going to make a sortie to Pocatello later to look at a couple of properties what popped up on the radar.

  50. The Late P Brooks


    Aussie border to open to tourists, but only if you are double vaccinated.

    Haha, fuck you, Australia.

  51. DEG

    Canberra police provide update on their activities around the Canberra protests

    “We’re putting every resource we can towards these protesters and their activities throughout the week,” she said.

    “We are like the society here and the Canberrans and we do want this protest activity to end peacefully.”

    Commander Champion said on Sunday a protester struck a traffic controller with a vehicle after being advised to stop.

    The traffic controller was taken to hospital for minor injuries and the driver of the vehicle was arrested.

    Two people were also arrested on the roads on Monday for causing disruptions.

    • rhywun

      we do want this protest activity to end peacefully

      There is a way to make that happen. I wonder what it could be.

  52. DEG

    Stunning and brave

    The passionate response from a frustrated Canberra road user asked for his opinion during an anti-vaccination mandate protest is garnering widespread support online.

    The man did not hold back when he was approached inside his vehicle on the weekend and asked whether he thought the coronavirus vaccine saved lives.

    “Absolutely. At my age I need it,” the man said.

    “Someone like you may not.”

    The man goes on to offer his character assessment of the individual filming, presumably a member of the Convoy to Canberra protest group.

    “Go back to where you came from you piece of s—-,” he tells the protester.

    Social media users have hailed the driver a hero and a “Bloody legend” for expressing the views they say are shared by many Canberrans.

    Supporters online have called for the man to be appointed a Member of the Order of Australia and to be made Australian of the Year.

  53. DEG

    Canberra Times’ live blog of Monday’s protest festivities

    On Monday, anti-vaccine protesters demanded an end to COVID-19 mandates and the resignation of parliament.

    As part of a renewed push to legitimise their grievances and overthrow the government, the group has called for 5 million supporters to converge on Canberra in the coming weeks.

    This comes after crowds swelled from hundreds, part of a “Millions Against Mandatory Vaccination” protest, to at least 1000 on Saturday. ACT police said they estimated around 3000 people were at protests on Monday.

    While the protesters’ plans for the week ahead are unclear, The Canberra Times understands more people are set to arrive over the next few days with intentions to cause as many disruptions as possible across the capital.

    • Urthona

      Now that we KNOW that the vaccine isn’t even an infection speed bump, there really isn’t any justification for governments any more. If you have a literal vaccine mandate, you are evil as fuck.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        The vaccines are a scientific and human failure. But too many useless quacks and assholes staked their ‘reputations’ on them so they’re stuck seeing this criminality through.

      • kbolino

        For whatever reason, the English-speaking world is still clinging to the “vaccines work wonders” narrative even though much of the rest of the world has abandoned it, or never took it up in the first place (see, e.g., most of Africa).

      • kbolino

        In fact, after they cancel Rogan (which seems inevitable now that he caved), they will probably wait a couple weeks then change their tune.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    For whatever reason, the English-speaking world is still clinging to the “vaccines work wonders” narrative even though much of the rest of the world has abandoned it, or never took it up in the first place (see, e.g., most of Africa).

    White northern hemisphere liberals are more invested in getting the vaxx to the southern poors than the poors, themselves, it seems.

  55. The Late P Brooks

    I just had a quick look. I do not see a ticker symbol or share price for GoFundMe. Are they VC-owned?

    • kbolino

      Huh, yeah, looks like they haven’t had IPO yet (but may be planning it). Unless the VCs are all Thiel acolytes, though, they’ll be just as leftist as the big investors.

  56. Certified Public Asshat

    Here’s the deal: Unvaccinated individuals are 97 times more likely to die compared to those who are boosted. Protect yourself and those around you by getting vaccinated and boosted today.— President Biden (@POTUS) February 5, 2022

    97 times!?

    • Urthona

      I think it’s 4x if you like at the cdc’s numbers of covid deaths. If that’s the “overall” death rate, then it’s proof that the datasets are inherently different.

    • kbolino

      Not even the CDC’s own manipulated definitions support this claim, not even close.

      But you can lie in the right direction and get away with it.

    • Sean

      Die of what?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Total horse shit.

      I guarantee they included all deaths prior to vaccine rollout in the unvaccinated group.

      • kbolino

        They do one better, if you aren’t “fully vaccinated”, you’re “unvaccinated”. So if you die between the first shot and 14 days after the second shot, you also count as “unvaccinated”.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      I’m guessing that he is using the trick of counting all Covid deaths from the start of the pandemic, so for the first year when there was no vaccine 100% of deaths were among the unvaccinated.

    • Not Adahn

      In a row?

    • Rebel Scum

      Fuck. Off.

  57. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    I don’t think I could pick a favorite, but that song is definitely top five. Such a great album! And of course Ceremony is a masterpiece, too.

    New Order Monday it is!

  58. waffles

    Update to employer asking for vaccine status. The paper form sent out indicates that you must be recently vaccinated or boosted to be considered vaccinated. I didn’t respond. Today they sent out a webform due to low response rate. This webform has 1 question “did you receive at least 1 dose?”. So I’m just going to answer that.

    I wonder why they changed. Still not getting boosted. Had 1-shot of J&J in April 2021 and I don’t want to relive the 12-hour hell fever and subject myself to renewed heart condition paranoia.

    • waffles

      Never mind, it’s nested. No getting out of it. Still not getting boosted.

    • kbolino

      With most mandates having been struck down by the courts, under what justification are they demanding this?

      • waffles

        I don’t know. If they want to give me the axe I will pretty easily find suitable alternate employment.

      • waffles

        It’s beyond frustrating that eternal boosting is somehow acceptable to a significant part of the HR departments.

      • Gustave Lytton ????

        Acceptable? The ones drawn to HR are skewed to loving the woke nonsense, loving being “safe”, and telling the ones actually doing work how to live their business lives. It selects for Karens.

      • Gustave Lytton ????

        Courts have only stopped mandates (sort of), they’ve never struck down employers demanding personal medical information or required forced medical treatments.

      • kbolino

        The mandates had two parts: the obvious (it’s mandatory) and the subtle (you’re protected from lawsuits). Did the courts only strike down the “mandatory” part? That wouldn’t surprise me, but I thought they had been struck in whole.

      • rhywun

        As I understand it, the window is still wide-open for state and local mandates, too.

      • Gustave Lytton ????

        Yes. And even federal mandates if done differently.

      • rhywun

        As a matter of fact, I think there is already a general mandate for NYC businesses – it was one of DeLazyo’s parting gifts on his way out the door.

        But there is ZERO talk about it in the media. I have no idea if it is actually in effect or being enforced.

  59. Rebel Scum

    You ain’t black.

    Joe Rogan quotes others using a bad word and it’s a mob after him.

    Joe Biden quoting the n bomb and he gets 81,000,000 votes!

  60. Mojeaux

    I’ve been thinking a lot about the question “What’s different about the BLM protestors blocking the highways and the Canadian truckers blocking the highways?” that’s been a hot debate topic around here. On the Zooms, I said I didn’t agree with Hyperbole (for once) that it’s “different”. How is it different? People are still cut off from their destinations. Okay, that’s a fair point.

    The difference is that I like this one. This one FEELS right, which is, again, making me agree with Hyperbole.

    But let’s go farther. I RESENT LIKE HELL that THEY can do it with impunity, burn people’s businesses down, kill people, MOLOTOV COCKTAILS FOR EVERYONE!!!11!one, attack people’s cars as they try to get through, and generally do MORE than just block people from their destinations and they are called “mostly peaceful protests” by a lying, vindictive cunte of a media.

    But hey, the Canadian truckers, man, they’re REALLY out for people’s blood and these aren’t peaceful protests by any measure. Look at them blocking the streets and honking and dancing! WHY THE NOIVE! Fuck those guyz.

    The difference between the Canadian truckers’ protest of blocking the streets and the BLM protestors is the lack of violence. No, it’s just one giant party while making their stand for their livelihoods.

    Some businessmen and customers can’t get to the shops. Why is this different from what the government did during COVID? Why is this different from the truckers’ livelihoods being cut off? It’s “them” or “us” or “them AND us”. So yeah, it FEELS right and it’s for my benefit and so it’s okay.

    But when you get right down to it, this is the beginning of a war, and “our” side just isn’t willing to burn down people’s livelihoods (just block them off) or kill people.

    Yet.

    • Not Adahn

      ^This is correct.

    • kbolino

      There’s structural differences as well.

      BLM/Antifa answer to the orders of their nonprofit masters. There is no nonprofit (or for-profit, for that matter) organization funding and orchestrating the truckers’ protests. This may change over time, as they and their supporters organize, but it’s still going to be a lagging form of organization vs. the leading organization of BLM/Antifa.

      Moreover, while I’m sure some of the truckers have colorful legal pasts, they at least generally have jobs, whereas the BLM/Antifa riots were primarily carried out in the streets by unemployable lumpenproles. These were (primarily white!) young criminal thugs acting as shock troops. You don’t see that among the truckers.

      • Mojeaux

        These are all good points. I haven’t thought too deeply about it, though. I can’t. We’re trying to get ahead in life, and my brain is too full of family’s and friends’ issues, and I am blessed to live where I don’t have these problems. Yet.

        they at least generally have jobs, whereas the BLM/Antifa riots were primarily carried out in the streets by unemployable lumpenproles.

        Yes. My brain is also filled with my next career change for something better paying. I have work to do. Most of us do. The truckers are there because they are prohibited from getting their work done without the EVIL papiers bitte.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      This one FEELS right,

      Truth and goodness matters. The BLM protesters may have felt right, but they were wrong in both cause and in action. The truckers are right in cause but wrong in action. The ends do not justify the means, and they should be criticized to the extent that their means encroach on the rights of innocent others.

      That said, any civil disobedience has some level of collateral damage. The white guy who just wanted a sandwich was harmed by sit-ins. Tourists to DC were harmed by the million man march. People were and are inconvenienced by the various protests that happen on a regular basis.

      I’m generally on the side of the truckers because, while they’re being annoying, they’re not being malicious. They’re a nuisance, not a threat to law and order. Maybe an alternative form of protest could have been carefully crafted to be more narrowly tailored against those who are infringing their rights, but, frankly, we have tried less impactful methods of protest and have gotten pretty much nowhere. If governments want peaceful NAP respecting protests, they should try listening while the protests are peaceful and NAP respecting. Aggrieved people tend not go back home and continue their lives as if nothing happened when their fervent pleas are ignored by government. They tend to get more and more pushy.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The governments want it to be impossible for you to protest them directly. They want any opposition to be felt as pain to the masses. See 1/6. As mild as that was, it scared the shit out of them because it was targeted at them and them alone.

        At some point, you cannot avoid the conflict. The government is totalitarian. Throwing it off involves pain to everyone, and the more totalitarian it gets, the worse that pain will be.

      • Homple

        “The government is totalitarian. Throwing it off involves pain to everyone, and the more totalitarian it gets, the worse that pain will be.”

        It could end like the Czechoslovak “Velvet Revolution”, it could end like Ceaușescu’s regime or something in between. It might last as long as feudalism.

      • Mojeaux

        I also think there’s a slippery slope (so overused) to the “if it’s not okay for BLM, it’s not okay for Truckistan” that once you keep following that logic, everything becomes meaningless and you might as well do nothing at all. Well, BLM isn’t going to do nothing at all. They will continue to push back until “our” side is crushed.

        There comes a point when you must say “Enough.”

        So yeah, I agree with Hyperbole in that it’s only okay because “my” side is doing it.

        But I also think it MUST be done.

        I’m totally okay with what they’re doing and I’m not going to try to justify my approval.

      • Jarflax

        ^this. Purity is for monks who have renounced the things of this world and welcome martyrdom. (and Hi Mojeaux)

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I also think there’s a slippery slope (so overused) to the “if it’s not okay for BLM, it’s not okay for Truckistan” that once you keep following that logic, everything becomes meaningless and you might as well do nothing at all.

        Yep, it’s akin to ad hominem.

        I completely agree with your comment. I find criticism of the movement as nit-picky at best. Yes, in theoretical libertopia, maybe all these people are aggressors against innocents for doing the honk honk. Meanwhile, in the real world, people are being forced to make hard choices because of authoritarian and fascistic pressure to participate in an experimental medical program. Sorry, but a few people needing to invest in a good pair of noise canceling headphones is a small price to pay for avoiding the medical totalitarian state some want. This is one scenario where pragmatism wins out over principle (as you and others have already pointed out).

        tl;dr: thanks for the counterpoint Hype, but here’s my response.

      • rhywun

        their fervent pleas are ignored by government

        And this is exactly what various “leaders” in Canada are promising.

    • robc

      The Canadian trucker strategy is similar to the Tennessee anti-income tax strategy of the late 90s? The state house/senate was debating an income tax bill and people surrounding the state house with cars and honked and etc, until they voted down the bill. One rep died of a heart attack, supposedly from the stress of the motorists honking but that didnt go far.

    • Zwak, holding the spinal column of JFK wrapped in Marilyn Monroes neglegie

      The essential fact of these protests, Canadian truckers climate change, and BLM, is they assume a moral position. If you share the moral position, then they are good. If you don’t, they aren’t.

      I think most people here agree with the Canadian truckers while disagreeing with the other two mentioned. Go to other places online, and you will see the opposite. But, at least in my eyes, as the public sees these events they get to judge for themselves and thus help create the greater moral acceptance or lack thereof. BLM and climate change never quite captured the public in the way that they wanted to, for whatever reason: astroturfing, violence, etc. It remains to be seen if the truckers do.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    Unless the VCs are all Thiel acolytes, though, they’ll be just as leftist as the big investors.

    Probably more so. Still, with any luck, GFM will experience a loss of business impossible to handwave away.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    But when you get right down to it, this is the beginning of a war, and “our” side just isn’t willing to burn down people’s livelihoods (just block them off) or kill people.

    Yet.

    How do we shut down the government while keeping businesses open and allowing people maximum freedom of movement?

    *Not a rhetorical question.

    • Mojeaux

      I do not know. The only thing I can do is confess that I like it when people I agree with do it.

    • creech

      Plenty of peaceful civil rights marches in the 1960s inconvenienced people. Like those who wanted to drive across the Bettis Bridge. But the Constitution protects the right of the people to peaceably assemble, so some inconvenience must be accepted in a free society.

    • Homple

      “How do we shut down the government while keeping businesses open and allowing people maximum freedom of movement?”

      History says you don’t.

      Thinking otherwise is bringing a declaration of principles to a gun fight.

  63. Mojeaux

    I feel a Smokey and the Bandit rewatch is in order.

  64. The Late P Brooks

    Mass protests are our only hope. As soon as the Gestapo can separate individuals from the herd, we’re done for. The Toronto mayor and cops have effectively admitted to being overmatched and helpless. But they are also reportedly gathering information which will be used later against individuals.

    Maybe we should ask NATO for help.

    • kbolino

      The truckers have the advantage of already seeing what happened post-January 6th. Yes, after they’ve disperse, without securing any concrete guarantee of their demands being met, they will be targeted. So don’t do that.

  65. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I like this chart.

    https://imgur.com/a/bTldtyi

    The intellectual history of Marxism and its mutant descendants.

    • kbolino

      The problem with Marxism is that power does not arise from class consciousness alone, and so the professional revolutionaries, who are almost all defective rejects from the bourgeoisie, who are also capable of their own class consciousness, will seize power more effectively, since they are closer to its source.

      Or, to put it another way, Marxism in practice always ends up with Patty Hearsts running things.

      • Jarflax

        It is never correct to say “The problem with Marxism.” “The” implies that there is only one, or at least that there is something that is not a problem. Marxism starts from a flawed moral premise, that equality of outcomes is good, desirable or fair (it is not). Proceeds through flawed arguments, labor produces value, history is economic, class struggles are the primary force, history follows laws like unto those of physics etc. to an idiotic conclusion, that mankind will alter its basic nature if you give power to the proletariat for a time, and eventually we will all live in peaceful harmonious plenty.

      • kbolino

        Yes, there are lots of problems with Marxism from an external or holistic perspective.

        This, I think, is the key problem of Marxism from within its own frame of reference, however. The vanguard party immediately becomes its own class and the interests of that party/class match those of its members. There is no such thing as a selfless class of people, and yet that is essentially what Marxism requires: either the proletariat must self-organize on behalf of each other (non-Leninist) or the vanguard party must organize on behalf of the proletariat (Leninist). The former is always captured by the latter (or defeated by reactionary forces), hence why Lenin did his thing, and the latter is exactly that which it sought to eliminate (classist). Mao’s only change to this basic formula is to replace the ex-bougies in the vanguard party with ex-farmers, but this still misses the point. No matter how many buses Nicholas Maduro drove before he became the President of Venezuela, he is now a member of a self-interested class-conscious ruling class.

      • Compelled Speechless

        Just wanted to say that I always enjoy reading your posts. You have a gift for diagnosing and explaining root political problems. I think the problem you’re pointing out here is the most fundamental and inescapable problem in every political system. “Who watches the watchmen.” Or to put it another way, whoever you put on top will naturally become a lighting rod for unaccountable corruption. Make a new institution or position to police them and all you’ve done is relocate the lighting rod.

      • Compelled Speechless

        Just wanted to say that I always enjoy reading your posts. You have a gift for diagnosing and explaining root political problems. I think the problem you’re pointing out here is the most fundamental and inescapable problem in every political system. “Who watches the watchmen.” Or to put it another way, whoever you put on top will naturally become a lighting rod for unaccountable corruption. Make a new institution or position to police them and all you’ve done is relocate the lighting rod.

      • kbolino

        Cheers.

        I don’t know the solution to “who watches the watchmen” except that I don’t think there is a permanent solution. Every system of government is “corruptible” in the sense that it can be bent to serve the interests of the people who run it. Feudalism started out as a virtuous system: the king, who was the strongest and most respected, led the nobles, who were his trusted right-hand men, who in turn looked out for the peasantry, who provided the grain, tools, arms, and general stability. If the king lost his wits or acted contrary to the people he governed, the nobles rose up and overthrew him. Virtuous cycle. And yet it still ended up at the degenerate end-stage of 18th century aristocracy, where the common people were pitted against the royalty-nobility-clergy triumvirate. Sounds kind of familiar to the government-media-academic triumvirate we have to contend with today, in fact.

      • Compelled Speechless

        Precisely. It’s not a “solvable” problem. It seems to be an inescapable paradox. I think most people around here believe as I do that the best thing that you can do to try to control it is decentralize and instill individualism in the populace as much as you can. Unfortunately, as long as there are hard times (again, inevitable) there will be snake-oil salesmen to promise the people that giving up some of their money and individuality will bring them one step closer to utopia. As long as a few ambitious people can make empty promises and gaslight people into thinking they’re virtuous, altruistic and selfless to amass wealth and power that can be turned on those same people the moment things start going south, I don’t see a way out of it.

        I don’t say this to sound nihilistic. More like an observation that the power of man should be looked at more like an inescapable force of nature like gravity. Something that we can learn to imperfectly manipulate rather than transcend. If you see it as just another of the rules of the universe that must be followed just like our need to eat and drink to survive, it becomes a little easier to be ambivalent towards it.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    I have work to do. Most of us do. The truckers are there because they are prohibited from getting their work done

    And we’re back to the ugly truth that people with nothing to lose will eventually become willing to engage in open violent revolt.

  67. Rebel Scum

    Muh right-wing, white-supreme terrorisms!

    From Canada, a counter-protestor blocks the road and fakes being hit by a Freedom Convoy truck while wearing a mask outside.

    This is why you need a dash cam.

  68. The Late P Brooks

    At this point, I do not believe there are more than a handful of people in the American government capable of serious intelligence-gathering on the mood of the country. They have been so completely subsumed by the echo chamber feedback loop of “public health experts” and the media and their own selfcongratulatory pronouncements of concern for the health and wellbeing of their subjects that they are wholly convinced of the righteousness of their cause. They have convinced themselves, despite all glaringly obvious evidence to the contrary, that they can and will defeat Death, if only we ignorant fools would just do as they command.

  69. Rebel Scum
  70. The Late P Brooks

    In purely practical terms, don’t go out of your way to alienate people who should be your allies.

    • Tundra

      That goes against the Libertarian ethos.

      • slumbrew

        Splitter!

    • slumbrew

      The best part of this statement is I don’t even know what comment it was in reply to (if any), but is still great general advice.

  71. Brochettaward

    I’m going to do my part for freedom, the part I was born for. No one will make a greater contribution to the struggle than I will. Today, I will First For Freedom.

  72. The Late P Brooks

    The best part of this statement is I don’t even know what comment it was in reply to (if any), but is still great general advice.

    Merely a general observation prompted by the discussion in total.

    What I also am thinking:

    Who are the “innocent victims” of the horrific antisocialism of the truckers in Ottawa? Something tells me the “suburbs” of Ottawa are a lot like the suburbs of Washington, DC. Honk your horn in McLean, Virginia, you mostly likely will be in earshot of somebody who collects a government paycheck. I’m guessing the truckers did their homework.

    • Not Adahn

      When I visited Ottawa I discovered some student-quality townhouses being used as embassies. Like, my AirBB was next to the Greek (IIRC) embassy and was only distinguishable by the lack of a flagpole and a plaque.

  73. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    I have some leftover braised red cabbage. I’m thinking of chicken breasteses stuffed with cabbage wrapped in bacon? That’s sounds OK, doesn’t it? I can’t decide if it sounds gross or delicious.

  74. kinnath

    Protesting against the government has impacts on the general population. Those impacts are a side effect.

    BLM/Antifa “protests” are calculated attacks against the general population. Those impacts are the intended effect.

    Tell me when Canadian truckers start burning neighborhood stores. Until then, I am support them.

    • Tundra

      Yup. It wasn’t the truckers who destroyed my city.

      • waffles

        No trucker ever called me a nazi.