In these trying times, where the interval between denouncing something as a crazy right-wing conspiracy theory, and admitting ‘well okay that’s true’ is rapidly shrinking, I was amused to discover another, much older conspiracy theory is also true. What am I talking about? Fluoride in the water of course!
How it started
Fluoride is a naturally occurring chemical that is frequently found in ground water. In the early 20th century, researchers discovered that people who lived in areas with more fluoride in the water had fewer cavities. In 1945, fluoride was added to the drinking water in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The results published in 1950 showed that fluoride reduced cavities and fluoridation became US policy by 1951. As of 1999, the CDC considered fluoridation of water one of the 10 greatest public health achievements. Proving that COVID-19 is not the first time governments around the world landed on the same public health measures; fluoridation is also widely practiced outside the US – including UK, New Zealand, Malaysia, and Australia, to name just a few.
In the 1950s and 1960s, opposition to water fluoridation came from libertarians and the John Birch Society who argued that it violated individual rights.
How it’s going
In part, the push for fluoride in the water was based on the belief that cavity prevention occurred before tooth emergence. This has turned out to be wrong – topical fluoride applications to teeth also work. I grew up on well water and thus had to have regular fluoride treatments growing up.
Once other fluoride treatments became available, some countries (Germany and Sweden for example) stopped fluoridating water. More and more research is showing that long term exposure to fluoride in water can have adverse impacts such as increased bone fractures and cognitive problems (such as ADHA or reduced IQ ). Harvard says that countries that did not add fluorine to drinking water also saw a reduction in cavities.
The establishment continues to insist they are right and fluoride in the water is good, but in 2011, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services announced a proposal to reduce the recommended fluoride level to 0.7 ppm.
Top Men wrong again? Say it isn’t so!
https://fluoridefreechapelhill.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/fiendish-fluoridators-depicted-in-1991-illuminati-card-game/
I do…I do deny them my essence.
As if you have a choice in the matter.
He could leave his crusty socks laying on the floor of his mom’s basement.
Hiding the at the bottom of his hamper is completely his choice.
Fact Check: 0 pinnochios.
When I grew up we had sulfur in our well water.
After I would spend a weekend at Grampa’s I would have to get used to it again.
When I was 13 we moved to a farm with good spring water.
My whole life, I’ve had 2 cavities.
My cousins’ house out south of Pittsburgh had well water with sulfur. For the kitchen, it was filtered out, but rinsing out your mouth in the bathroom with water blew the minty freshness away immediately.
My house well has sulphur in it.. we use a green sand filter with potassium permanganate regeneration. Works fine, we also add an inline filter for just drinking water.
My wife hates most municipal water systems due to the chlorine levels.
My last house before Jugsy and I decided to co-habitat was on a well. Low minerals, but a ton of iron. She, being reddish of hair commented after a few showers “If I just stay here I wont need to color my hair”.
Moving here and getting “city” water, I swore I was drinking directly from a swimming pool.
Up here we’ve got the hard water that will leave deposits on anything, Water chemistry and adjustments were one of the big new hotnesses in the home brewing world a couple years back. Some of the larger breweries will RO filter everything, then build up their water profile from that.
I heard it posited (possibly through here) that the Swiss are clean freaks because the water itself leaves deposits. Don’t I know it. Mine you could stand a spoon in.
Alpenwasser ist besten wasser!
I live in a town literally called “Mineral Wells.” Back in the day the lithium would (allegedly) heal crazy people, so “Crazy Water” became a thing. You can still get the high mineral content Crazy Water here.
If you give her half a chance, my wife will go on and on about the shitty alkali waters in North Dakota. This based on two nights we spent camping there (1 night each on different trips).
She can’t get over the fact that city water had a brown tint to it and tasted like shit. She’s convinced that taking even a sip of it will kill you. Letting it touch your skin will maim you.
Drinking high sulphur water produces the most foul gas known to man.
Actually, I have seen a commie drink a glass of water.
But does it make the frogs gay?
Good write up Tulip!
San Diego water was Fl-free until fairly recently (21C?).
*This article brought to you by Pfizer.
I grew up on well water. For decades, I lived in various municipal areas with city water. I didn’t realize how much I’d become accustomed to that until we moved up here, and now we’re back on clean well water. I greatly prefer it.
Mother fucker.
Not stroking out again are you?
You rang?
My moms dead. You cant pin anything on me.
That’s worse. Backs slowly away from the necrophiliac
I can always bring it to a new (worse) level.
Fluorinated water.
Covid 19 mRNA “vaccines”
Food pyramid that says we should wallow in carbs, and that butter and eggs are terrible.
Measles, mumps, rubella vaccines are good,. What happened since then? Boredom?
L:ow-haning fruit was picked + careerism?
Somehow these people are all alive, with teeth, and not fat – before any of our government health programs.
So I can blame my ADHD on something else? Awesome!
You just need a “tune-up” with a car battery, a couple spatulas with wet sponges on the end and you’ll be right as rain.
Third lady: former spelling-bee champ.
Not vetted, just top DDG result: https://waterfilterguru.com/best-fluoride-water-filter/
NJ. Libertarian paradise.
https://nj1015.com/most-nj-towns-dont-have-fluoridated-water-but-these-do/
Only 15%!
Yeah, I didn’t realize flourinated water was still a thing since I live in NJ and we never had it in any town I’ve lived in.
Ironically, in New Jersey, residents are required to pump their own fluoride into the water.
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alol
My old chemistry professor . . . . I don’t drink water because fish fuck in it.
Or as Tres Sr. would say on his 11th or so beer….”Look, you simply cant make beer without good water. Thats why I avoid anything from the faucet.”
His other great rationalization was “Look- doctors say you should have 8 glasses of water each day. The beer I drink is around 96% water by volume. I figure a 12-pack should cover it.”
I have no idea if Romania does this but I doubt it. we have fluoride in our toothpaste, though no idea if it does anything
I am pretty sure Romanian water is not fluoridated.
When I looked into this years ago, fluoridated water was the exception, not the norm.
We had a private water provider in Temple, Tx. About every 6 months we would get a reminder about so much natural fluoride in the water that we were encouraged to buy bottled water for drinking for kids under 14 ’cause the high level of fluoride would cause mottling of developing teeth in kids.
The city water in Hudson, WI is almost undrinkable for a country boy. St Paul water would have a strong taste in the fall from algae bloom.
Good article, Tulip. A reminder of why I live in the woods and good well water.
When I was stationed at Ft. Hood, most of the water was drawn from Lake Belton.
Im familiar with the algae smell in the late spring, specially when activated with a hot shower.
Very interesting, Tulip.
Makes sense, though. We evolved to exist in a world that we’ve absolutely torpedoed.
holee f, the Reeves defense attorney is absolutely BRUTALIZING the State’s witness (lead detective) on cross examination. Totally incompetent investigation.
Also, they’re making a good case that the arrest itself was flawed.
Was it deliberately flawed since he’s one of the annointed? Serious question – I haven’t been keeping up. Or what?
It doesn’t really seem like it.
The impression I’m getting from most witnesses is that they seem to be OK under direct examination by the State, then they get torn to shred by the defense because the incident happened 8 years ago. They are being presented with depositions and interviews they gave years ago, and they are contradicting themselves.
I think the defense is doing a good job of showing that all these eyewitnesses have been exposed over the last 8 years to a media narrative surrounding this incident, and have adjusted their observations (unconsciously, probably) to match the narrative. Their statements in court contrast starkly in some cases with their contemporary interviews–right after the incident they tend to have mentioned things about the decedent’s aggressive, loud, and physically confrontational nature, whereas what they’re often saying in court sounds more like they didn’t see it at all.
Also, the defendant had been retired for 20 years at the time of the incident–it’s apparent that at least one cop investigator handled him with kid gloves, probably because of his LE history, and it’s certainly questionable why the trial has been delayed so long, but a lot of that can be chalked up to legislative changes in Florida that resulted in multiple hearings under different legal regimes and about 2 years worth of delay attributable to COVID BS.
My impression is that the investigation was flawed due to simple incompetence. Many of the investigators have moved on from law enforcement, and you might read between the lines that they either left because they didn’t like the way things were done, or that they weren’t capable of doing their jobs.
One of the commentators (Andrew Branca) on the stream noted that the incompetence of this investigation is not uncommon–it’s just infrequent that we see it brought to light by this. He’s clearly not a fan of the way most police investigations happen. He said words to the effect that “this happens all the time–they half-assed it–it’s not a justification–just because many criminal investigations are half-assed doesn’t mean that’s acceptable, but it is pretty standard”
Thx. I’d frankly forgotten about it since it was years ago, and then when I heard it was just now coming to trial, my first thought (still my main thought) is that they’d slow-rolled it on purpose – again, because he was “one of them”. Like I said, I haven’t been keeping up, but it would also be easy to convince me that in this case, a lot of the half-assery was deliberate as well – just going through the motions because they already decided what outcome they wanted.
Perhaps. However, they knew he was a retired officer before he was even arrested. It would have been easy for them to have let him walk if they wanted to protect a “brother officer,” and then let the prosecutor make a decision later. Apparently, in FL, officers are supposed to consider self defense when making a decision to make an arrest in a use of deadly force case.
Fluoride- you just need a schtickle.
Funny, I was just pondering this. I figure with all the fluoridated toothpastes and mouthwashes available why do we bother with the water?
Then again I’ve never had a cavity, but even the dentist thinks I’m a freak for that.
Do horses normally get cavities?
*runs from room*
Neigh.
Hay now, get oat of here with that pun.
Why do you hate Big Flouride?
It’s a neurotoxin?
We have well water. Last year my youngest had to have 12 cavities filled. She drinks those milkshakes masquerading as coffee, and avoids the dentist. After all those fillings they gave her a fluoride treatment and toothpaste with something like 1000% more fluoride than normal toothpaste. So we’ll see.
Up until age 16, I had a fluoride treatment every 6 months. Yuck, gross goopy ‘grape’ flavor in a tray you had to bite.
It’s the sugar.
I think it’s more than “well water” vs “city water.” There are a lot of differences in well water based on geography and well depth, even in relatively closely spaced wells sometimes. There is an incredibly complex chemistry involved in water in general–it’s known as the “universal solvent” and the interactions between the various ionic solutes in any water are understood and controllable, but there may be variations that might be more corrosive to tooth enamel than others, and won’t be known without a proper analysis of the water.
BTW, if you’re concerned, you can usually get an analysis of your well water done by a local lab for around $100.
Recommend, even if you aren’t concerned. Wells can get contaminated.
Dude! poor lass.
I suspect the answer/s are in your third sentence. Find out why the dentist aversion, and no need to reply here.
Heh! My little brother loved going to the dentist (I hated it), but he would scream bloody murder when we had to get our haircuts.
When I was a kid we had an old farmer who lived down the street who didn’t have water or sewer – he had a well and an outhouse. The was an old timey well that had a wooden structure built over it with a wench and a wooden bucket. He would offer us water from his well on hot days which we gladly drank. Till this one time when he dropped the bucket down the well and when he pulled it up it contained a drowned cat. I ‘ve been leery of well water ever since.
Most wells are more secure than that.
I’m sure but whenever I hear “well water” the image of a drowned cat floating in a bucket enters my mind.
We have well water, but it’s a big community well, so it’s a utility just like city water.
I don’t think this will rise to the level of snowpocalypse, but two plows have been by in the last 10 minutes and each time it’s like no plow came by at all.
XY leaf-blew the snow in our driveway and on our cars, but it’s like he didn’t touch it. The last good snowfall like this *that I remember* was in 2012.
It’s 60 and sunny here.
Raining. Blah.
-11 and sunny.
The FAA is here witnessing flight tests. The do a short flight, bring the plane in to change a parameter, go out and do another short flight. EVERY TIME THEY OPEN THE DAMN HANGAR DOOR, THE WIND WHIPS THROUGH MY LAB.
oooooh, I’d love to hear what’s cooking with the flight tests, but I’m sure you can’t talk about it…
Nope, I’d like to keep my job for a few more years.
Totally understood.
UFO FLIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A balmy 72 and partly cloudy. Loving it after the unusually cold January we had.
Same here. Back to the 20s by tomorrow night, sigh.
8-10 inches last 48 hours, predicting another 6-10 today and tonight. Our plow guy got stuck at the bottom of the driveway this morning. We’re having to have a loader come in to clear the drive, at least where it slopes up the hill to the buildings.
Not that unusual in these parts.
Have fun digging out. Speaking of diggers, chapter 1 of your latest Glib series reminded me of this guy, a totally different sort of digger, you dig?
Tulip,
How is Babs doing?
question seconded
I’ll pick her up later in the afternoon. So far no news is good news.
Hope it ends well.
Excellent!
Daschund recovering from anesthesia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQCEYuWeEuQ
The other one is her daughter.
That “she knows something is up” is true. Babs wouldn’t get out of the car at the vet. I had to get help. Breaks my heart – the betrayed look.
I’ve had four dogs in my life, and every one of them has hated going to the vet from their first visit. I had to bring one in this morning because of bloody stools (hookworm -gah!) and I had to literally carry her in, legs flailing, because as soon as she got out of the truck and realized where she was, she flopped on the ground and refused to budge.
Lily loves going to the vet for some reason. I assume she’s cooed over by the vet techs.
Also – her microchip has a thermometer function, so they don’t shove stuff up her butt.
I have to pay extra for that!
Also – her microchip has a thermometer function, so they don’t shove stuff up her butt.
That’s cool – didn’t know it was an option (ours came pre-chipped).
Still, she has to get expressed occasionally, so she wouldn’t be completely out of the woods.
Up until this year, she liked the vet. That makes it worse I think.
The betrayal worse, I mean.
https://www.hyphen-report.com/csis-uses-antifa-to-dox-and-honeypot-freedom-convoy/
If somebody offs that dude, I’ll shed no tears.
The comments on this ‘Rings Of Power’ trailer make me think the fans are not excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVGOVokbw6Q&t=3s
Looks like racists have invaded the comments*
*Amazon, probably
Lol!
Also, that’s some shitty CGI.
Rushun Troll Farms!
I posted Critical Drinker’s take on LOR from Amazon.
TLDR — Don’t fuck with other people’s work.
They have to make it more racist to be less racist.
Watched that a couple days ago – as usual, he’s spot on.
Basing loosely on Tolkien’s work but not an actual book is smart. They get to use his universe but make it all woke and diverse.
As of 1999, the CDC considered fluoridation of water one of the 10 greatest public health achievements
*cue clown parade theme music*
Ate at new mexican restaurant. I wanted to try multiple things, so I got a burrito with chorizo and steak and nacho fries with pastor. Expensive, since they were both entrees, but man did I get a lot of food. I’ve probably got more than 2 pounds of food left. And it was good.
Good news Oregonians!
Nicholas Kristof Can’t Run for Governor in Oregon After Losing Appeal
Now if there was some way to remove the rest of the carpetbagger political elite in this state.
I would have preferred that he ran and was crushed.
#MeToo. But I’m still grateful he left the NYT and doesn’t have a column there anymore.
I’m with you!
But I’m happy they were unwilling to bend the law to the degree that he could run because he essentially “identified” as an Oregonian. In some ways I’m shocked giving the current legal trends.
The club didn’t want to open it up to a free fo all instead of an anointed succession.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/17/education-department-forgives-415-million-in-private-student-debt-.html
I think Biden just drinks fluoride.
Wouldn’t we have to you know, sue the schools first and then pay out?
Mainlines it, more likely
I remember as a kid having to brush our teeth and swish with fluoride every day. I don’t know if I have any side effects from it, but I’m here so probably?
Pro Gamer Fired After Saying Short Men ‘Don’t Have Human Rights’
Stepping on Riven’s toes here from Kotaku.
先生はぎりぎりセーフ!
Fired for a chirp? Jesus the world has gone mad.
Know your audience, I suppose.
Though I’m not sure most gamer simps, even short ones, would care.
Wait till they hear about Randy Newman.
lol
Missed it by 9/10ths of an inch. Dammit!
Trying my hand at Japanese,
Sensei-wa girigiri seifu
Sensei is just barely safe (in the baseball sense)
Used in more than just baseball.
In this case “I just made it” – it being the height cutoff.
Good point, idiomatic translation is better than word-for-word
Hide your dog.
I would Hulk out. TULIP SMASH!
The left is nothing if not petty and vindictive.
Good luck trying to take my pet!
What is this “emergency powers” law in Canada? Does it just allow them to do whatever mean and nasty things they can think of to people they don’t like?
Yes.
Seems so.
As far as I can tell, it makes Fidel Jr a dictator.
They need to use a different E word to be more accurate – Enabling Act fits better.
Yes, but enabling whom? Castro Jr. just does what he’s told.
https://www.theintell.com/story/news/2022/02/17/bucks-county-lift-mask-mandate-vaccinated-workers-county-buildings-covid-coronavirus/6819656001/
Science!
Shun the non-believers
When I was a kid we drank rainwater that we collected off our roof. In hindsight I might have thought that all the DDT and other pesticides we drank (due to crop dusters spraying the nearby cotton field) might have killed the bugs that cause cavities. But nope, first time I went to the dentist (5 or 6 years old) I had 12 cavities!
I’ve never had one, despite never being particularly fastidious about dental care, just what the average person does. My dentist says I have unusually hard teeth. I don’t remember the exact explanation, something to do with my saliva.
Consider yourself lucky, my dentist was the inspiration for Steve Martin’s character in “Little Shop of Horrors”.
None of my kids had cavities, but I attribute that to the fluoride treatments they had in the 80’s.
BTW the rainwater was delicious, my Mom kept a line running to the house long after we got on a water service.
The dentist we went to when I was a kid was named Dr. Strauss, and he was just as gentle as Germans are known to be. My gums would be sore for several days after a cleaning.
I collect some rainwater for yard stuff. You have to be careful drinking it when’s its collected from a roof cause birds that carry histoplasmosis shit on your roof, and it washes down.
Oh I’m sure we drank plenty of bird poop, maybe the DDT did serve a useful purpose.
TULIP SMASH!
Excellent.
Does it just allow them to do whatever mean and nasty things they can think of to people they don’t like?
Petulant foot stamping is much more effective when you’re wearing an iron boot.
Oops
Of course the article blames the Delta variant, but I think we know what was different between 3rd quarter 2020 and 3rd quarter 2021.
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2022/01/14/life-insurers-adapt-pandemic-risk-models-after-claims-jump
Aegon’s mad?
So…about your crypto…
Saw that coming at when the price jumped $18 to $1,000. Anything the fed can get its hands on…
Just wait till they come for the 401ks.
This was expected. Crypto is an existential threat to the existence of the US federal government. Not an exaggeration. A valid alternative to the dollar would destroy their entire system of control.
I’ll be at the LP state convention tomorrow. I’m sure the topic will come up in discussions. I’ve avoided crypto for exactly this reason, but I’m becoming more of a “Fuck you, I’m doing it anyway” kind of guy lately.
I have avoided Crypto because I assume FedGov will eventually hunt down and destroy anyone that played in it.
When banks in a country like, say… Canada, stop giving account holders access to their money, what happens next?
Bank Run? Canada’s Top Banks Mysteriously Go Offline
We can only hope.
Perhaps hire a couple of children to shout “They won’t give us out tuppence!”
Perfectly plausible, or a shared ATM and online network shit the bed.
Possibly from increased demand or just coincidence.
https://www.tdbank.com/
Hrm…
I was able to log into my TD Bank account right now.
https://onlinebanking.tdbank.com
Thank you.
Need a name and password for me to believe.
The Canadian site is td.com, though it also appears to be up
Relevant.
That better be titty bank bit….if not…I will forever be disappointed…
That will do animal, that will do.
This is a hell of an opening sentence for a book review:
Freshman English class says all books need a conflict. Man vs. Man, Man vs. Self, whatever. The conflict in Sadly, Porn is Author vs. Reader.
I suffered through/scrolled through what I thought were the more salient points. The author of that book is a maniac.
My company’s HR has come out and said no cola. Good luck with that.
Can you still have seltzer?
/ducking
I only got a princely 2% myself.
It will be amusing when my company does that so soon after yesterday’s “town hall” where the CIO was going on and on about how successful we were last year.
RIP
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Halvorsen
I might need this.
That scope!
State of the art – in 1937, that is.
Saw a couple of videos from Gun Jesus and 9-Hole Reviews, respectively, on this and I want one now.
I got my new tool chest!
The top piece is 270 lbs, that was an ordeal for my son and I.
You arent stronk like bull ?
I’m still weak from not working out since surgery and my son is not a workout person.
So to answer your question, no, not right now.
Im more interested in what you’re doing with that truck.
That’s a work in progress.
Once I get her back on the road, I’ll put up another article about this job.
Would
adipiscisexual?