Its starting to get too easy to rag on NASA. How the mighty have fallen.
This is my review of Lead Dog Brewery Raspberries Are Red IPA:
In a testimony to a recent House committee, NASA Inspector General Paul Martin revealed the operational costs for the Artemis Program down to a single launch:
Martin revealed the operational costs of the big rocket and spacecraft for the first time. Moreover, he took aim at NASA and particularly its large aerospace contractors for their “very poor” performance in developing these vehicles.
Martin said that the operational costs alone for a single Artemis launch—for just the rocket, Orion spacecraft, and ground systems—will total $4.1 billion. This is, he said, “a price tag that strikes us as unsustainable.” With this comment, Martin essentially threw down his gauntlet and said NASA cannot have a meaningful exploration program based around SLS and Orion at this cost.
Keep going because it gets better. The costs cited here do not include development costs already incurred and the usual government fuzzy math:
Martin also said NASA is obscuring costs that it is spending on the Artemis program and that, in aggregate, his office believes NASA will spend $93 billion from 2012 to 2025 on the Artemis program.
Which is a bit sad given NASA is usually one of the least hated government agencies due to the nostalgia from the Apollo moon landing program. Incidentally, landing on the moon is what the Artemis program is supposed to do.
I know what you are thinking, what does a launch cost Elon Musk? Unfortunately, there is a bit of an apples to oranges aspect of this since SpaceX is launching people into orbit but not necessarily to land on the moon. With that caveat, a Dragon Capsule launch costs somewhere between $55 and $90 million.
Perhaps its uncharitable to compare a fully operational SpaceX rocket to the SLS rocket which NASA contracts. Development of that rocket is estimated to be around $8.75 billion. RocketLab, a SpaceX competitor, is currently underway with development of the smaller Neutron rocket and projects development costs at a mere $200 million. Even if the Neutron has a smaller payload 15,000kg vs. 27,000kg, pound for pound these costs are not comparable at all.
Pound for pound is a turn of phrase, I realize I compared payloads in kilos.
So what happened? I don’t know anymore, maybe it has something to do with fluoride in tap water.
What I also found a bit disappointing was this beer. I thought it was going to be another one of those fruity, lactose infused monstrosities—not quite. If you are into the sour ale scene, puckering your lips and still trying to figure out why your urine smells weird the next morning, this will probably disappoint you too, as this is technically an IPA. So its just tart berries, hops, and a few floaters? Yes, that’s exactly what it is. I’m sure somebody hates themselves enough and/or has the palate for this, but its not one I will get again. Lead Dog Brewery Raspberries Are Red IPA: 2.1/5
JFC. They’ve gotten even worse over the years since I was involved with them on some ancillary satellite stuff.
I like raspberry in ales, and sours rock! I’ll try it,
Howdy Messy and all you nutjobs out there!
You’ll like this. So next time you’re in Vegas…
You know it!
Fruit does not belong in beer.
Agreed.
/keeps all of his fruited lambics, radlers, and shandies
/Hangs out at Neph’s house
/raises glass of Duchesse De Bourgogne
#teamFruit
“Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay…” -Mark Hammill.
The first nine gays seemed excessive, but by the time I got to the tenth I came around.
What happened to all that Space Camp lucre? Millions of kids paying thousands of dollars because they saw a movie once.
Please do something with the space force har and space camp. That would be great. “Training the next generation.”
He’d be great as a host of a kids game show, where every ‘prize’ was a trip to Space Camp. Except the winner, who got a pair of BK shoes.
Sometimes nostalgia isn’t so great.
/wasn’t cool enough for a pair of British Knights
I never had BKs, but I did have KangaRoos. And I tied them behind the heel in a secret way I called The Boomerang. I was
nerdycool like that.Holy cow! I forgot that company ever existed.
If NASA just made that vulva shaped ship it would cost them 25% less.
golf clap
Yes, but it would constantly get into fender benders with other satellites.
“That ISS came from out of nowhere!”
Once it splashed down in the ocean, you’d never get the smell off all of the fish!
I wonder if anyone is going to shoot today. It’s kind of
boring as fuckpeaceful waiting under the shelter as the snow comes down.Still in the midst of the production cutover.
We just started end user testing, which is always a joy /sarc
Let us know if a soccer game breaks out and you all come out of the trenches.
Milkshake-flavored beer?
Beer-flavored milkshake?
Eewwww, and that’s even if the milkshake is not carbonated.
I’m not sure where you got milkshake out of this, but it lets me pimp one of my favorite beers. Milkshake Malt Porter. I mean, technically a milkshake and a malt are two different ice cream drinks, and Teds’ hates carbonated stuff, so you’ll probably respond with either a link to 1940s music or movies, which none of us will get.
It says milkshake on the can
So now not only do I have to ‘Read The Fucking Article’ but I have to read the pictures? What is this, some kind of underground government literacy course?
So now not only do I have to ‘Read The Fucking Article’ but I have to read the pictures?
Yes.
I’m not here to tell you what to do.
Love Finds Andy Hardy is from the 1930s, not the 1940s.
I’m sorry Ted,
Milkshake IPA’s just use lactose (milk sugar) to add a body and some sweetness. It became a trend a couple years back, and still hasn’t faded out yet.
But, just for you and those who dislike carbonation, there is a company making still alcoholic water.
Fuck, I can just drink vodka, thank you very much.
Still want to see the original Orion utilized – if nothing else as a one-time thing to get a city-block’s worth of materiel into orbit. Maybe as a last ditch effort before the luddites/greens burn it all (just finished “Fallen Angels”).
As an aside – has anyone done any development recently on lifting lasers? I recall a bunch of folks writing about it a while back – using huge hectares of solar power in the desert to charge lasers that would fire into reflectors on the backs/inside rockets.
Unless the lasers are there to ablate the underside of the vessel and turn it into ejecta, it’s not going to produce enough thrust to produce lift. Even then, the vaporized materials will interfere with the lasers operations.
If you’re hoping that sheer volumes of light will push the object, you will find that you’ll sooner turn the atmosphere under it to plasma than lift it with photon pressure.
Gravity is just too much of a bitch.
Yeah….might have involved [dry] ice as well – pretty sure most of those guys had thought about the physics.
It worked for the Moties, but they launched from space.
I still love the idea of Gerald Bull’s low earth orbit cannon.
https://www.damninteresting.com/project-babylon-gerald-bulls-downfall/
Bull tried to persuade a guy I eventually worked with in Minnesota to come with him to Canada and “elsewhere” to help on Babylon.
My colleague balked. Good thing, too since Bull ended up committing suicide with 7 bullets to the back of his head in Belgium.
You know who else loved them some low orbit cannon?
I watched something about a Stainless steel Concave top shape that was spun up to around 10k RPMs and then hit with a laser and the thing took off just fine.
Scaling is another matter.
“Fallen Angels” was good.
Just for CPRM, Linda Darnell was quite good.
Best raspberry beer is still the Rubaeus by Founders and the Raspberry Ale by Sam Smith (haven’t been able to get for a few years now sadly).
I hate prunes and such in my beer, but
I have not known Founders to make any mistakes
Wrong, Lagunitas Dark Swan is far and away better than Rubeaus, and founders does good beer
I’ll look – nearly all the Lagunitas I’ve seen have been IPAs.
So, I guess this is a thing New Kids On The Block – Bring Back The Time (Ft Salt-N-Pepa, Rick Astley, En Vogue), and since I suffered through it, I give you glimpse of Nostalgia packaged as music.
Salt and/or Pepa really take the wrinkles out of my love-sausage.
Other than that, it made my ass polyps burst and bleed.
I thought this one was funny.
Look how young and spry the Hair looks!
https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/03/1-15.jpg?resize=585%2C600&ssl=1
Gardening tips from Powerline.
Hmmpf! https://www.glibertarians.com/2022/02/well-akshually/
I get no love.
I didn’t even hover over that link because I assumed it was to your article. Bad Mexican! Bad!
From dedthred.
RE: Starship Vulvaprise – Good thing those gals are physicists, aerospace engineers, materials scientists and chemists… oh wait? What’s that? They all have degrees in female butthurt studies? Good luck building your ship.
RE: WHER MUH GAY KIDZ? – I think progs grossly overestimate exactly how many voters support their fanatical insane indoctrination. Youngkin won largely because suburban moms were fed up with Dems’ lunacy in education. When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them.
https://archive.ph/ty9Gs
Silicone Saturday.
I think progs grossly overestimate exactly how many voters support their fanatical insane indoctrination. Youngkin won largely because suburban moms were fed up with Dems’ lunacy in education. When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them.
Unfortunately, I’ve heard Progressives did well in recent NH school board elections.
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0tGn4pZTuw
I tapped out of the girly pics at the face diaper picture. Blech.
Source for NH Progressives doing well in recent school board elections.
Unfortunately I am in the car with my wife so I am not able to perform the service of counting masks vs. free boobies.
This is happening and I will bask in the gloriousness of a 2019 world.
Irish Whiskey Tasting (1:50pm – 2:10pm) – I lost horribly last time, but I am always game to try again.
St. Baldrick’s Head Shaving Fundraiser (3:00pm – 4:00pm) – Most awesome charity ever. Beer and feel good about going bald?
Enter the Haggis (7:00pm – 8:15pm)
🙂
Gonna be me…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldQrapQ4d0Y
Cause well…I aint as I used to be.
You sure aren’t.
I never had a grandpa and he is now my grandpa
My Grandpa used to read and sing to us like that. I wish we had had the foresight to record more than what we did. To my knowledge there’s only one recording of him reciting one of our favorites–and I can’t find it. I have an idea where it is, but I’m going to have to find a cassette deck to play it back and transfer it if I can.
How do you lose at an Irish Whiskey Tasting?
Dont ask….usually cause I am already in too deep by the time the contest happens.
Nope. Need to ask now. You drank Irish Whiskey, in what way do you lose?
Me and a friend won a bet with a bartender back in the day who thought that we couldn’t tell the difference of the whiskey used in an Irish coffee.
Enter the Haggis – a little tame for me…but I can dig it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uFZ39D6Nr8
Ploughboy’s
MS you need to explain your scoring system. It sounds like you would have been happy to pour this beer down the drain. Why didn’t it get a 1?
Also, cool article about NASA. I had no idea things were so out of control.
NASA has lost its goal and then when they get their billions for projects they get to squander it away and blame an ever changing congress and presidential directives.
Seems like it’s completely under control, doing exactly what its master want…
Check out the guy in yellow! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEYEn_fpv-4
That takes me back to when I stepped out onto try outs of the Midget AA team and I had second hand gear against kids that were groomed for hockey since they were 5 and had all the best gear.
Superior skill can often out-perform superior equipment.
+1 Mystery Alaska…except they didn’t win…
Couldn’t help but notice Yellow had much narrower tires. Is that a plus or not? I know nothing about moto racing or motos.
from one of the comments:
Thomas LeMay
10 months ago
Every thing about the #5 is designed and optimized for this track . Not a single ounce of extra anything on the bike or rider. The engine makes the exact amount of power that the tires can handle, the tires are the smallest that can deliver the exact amount of traction needed so they don’t waste power. The frame is no stranger than it needs to be. You get the picture.
Guessing the guy was also a flat-track racer at some point.
smallest that can deliver the exact amount of traction
generally, though, the friction is only a function of the materials and the load; all things being equal, the contact patch if I’m reading you right) doesn’t affect the friction
admittedly, there are issues with heat dissipation and profile/slip-angle that might keep all things from being equal for racing tires on asphalt
in aggregate, his office believes NASA will spend $93 billion from 2012 to 2025 on the Artemis program.
$93 billion? That’s not even real money.
Hell we tossed about 15% of that into a blackhole that is called Ukraine!
I was going to do 14/93 to get that number but I knocked my beer over. Thanks for enacting my labour.
This is when medical technology is at its finest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0aZ9ksgAI
That’s awesome
I mentioned last thread that the past two years have me questioning everything. We have researchers and innovators that are working to make things better and then we have our MIC (medical or military) that want to keep up oppressed and sick.
I had to laugh at my sister. Not a full Branch Covidian but close. Her doctor prescribed her Hydroxychloroquine. Not for Covid.
Who’s cutting onions in here?
Sorry needed some for my omelette.
Hearing is my #1 I am okay with losing but watching that, I don’t want even that. We have such an amazing gift as humans with our senses. The loss of one means a bit of joy and love is gone.
Horrible! They’re taken her from the deaf community!
/morons
🙂
Artemis v. Falcon 9 (Heavy) is probably as favorable a comparison as NASA will get with SpaceX. If Elon only accomplishes 10% of what he wants out of starship, they’ll be cutting the cost by another order of magnitude.
I laughed when Russia claimed they would abandon our astronaut on the ISS. I wouldn’t have laughed a few years ago.
That was really weird.
“Hey, Elon? Can we get a special?”
Im in a mood apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBuIGBCF9jc
I have shown this to my kids. Maybe it got through, maybe it didn’t. However, think, he just said this a few years ago and he would be canceled now.
Also in the mood.
Relevant
That had better not be Glenn Miller. You’re better than that.
Still my favorite Ray Stevens.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/austria-suspends-vaccine-mandate-enforcement-starts-83336461
*falls out of chair*
By the time the legislation was in place, though, much of the sense of urgency had disappeared.
fake news: I’m pretty nothing can be fixed without government
I’m impressed that they mentioned the fact in bold; but less than impressed that they suggest that a different “variant” might justify canceling “fundamental rights.”
Think about that. “Fundamental rights” evidently means nothing to these people.
It was OK earlier to suspend individual rights but now it’s over.
/We’re adults now
Aint gonna lie… this is perfect music for a Saturday
Welp…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mgzKqaI5I
Back from
the grocery storeWalmart. I just paid $61.50 for what I swear would have been about 35 bucks’ worth of groceries 18 months ago.And the cashier wanted to see my ID for the beer. Why would store managers go out of their way to piss people off for no good reason? Am I supposed to be flattered? Fuck off with that nonsense, you idjits.
Threat of government is a good motivator.
ID for the beer
every transaction in TN…..because Republicans love freedom
Not too long ago, I ran into the same issue at my Kroger. Naturally it was on a day when I left my wallet in the truck since I had shorts on.
Seems another store in the area had gotten popped for selling to underage, and in light of the fine (I think $30K or something) all the stores in the area were hyper-vigilant.
A few years before he passed on, the Old Man got carded for a little bottle of wine. He asked the checkout girl to repeat herself. “I need to see your ID,” she said.
“I’m ninety-one,” he said, getting out his license.
“I’m sorry,” the girl said. “I’m supposed to ask everyone.”
“I’m ninety-one,” the Old Man repeated. “I’m a World War Two veteran. I was born in 1923. I’m ninety-one!”
“I”m sorry.”
As we left, the Old Man was shaking his head. “Common sense,” he said, “isn’t.”
For some reason I’m picturing this guy.
Vons (Safeway), Trader Joe’s, and CVS I find are lax. Rite Aid policy apparently is to card everyone.
In the long ago, I got carded, and asked to remove my sunglasses to prove my ID was correct. The grey streaks in my beard were apparently a careful ruse I had built up.
Never understood why this bothers people.
Because I obviously was over 21, and wanted to get out of the store?
Natural aversion to “authority” demanding I “show papers”.
Disgust at the lingering Puritanism of the American alcohol regime.
I’m sure there are others.
I laughed when Russia claimed they would abandon our astronaut on the ISS. I wouldn’t have laughed a few years ago.
They can push him out of the airlock, for all I care.
https://www.ft.com/content/eb927a3d-f4dd-43af-bc8b-815b8ea14e92?shareType=nongift
I didn’t realize the importance of Ikea in Russia.
It’s amazing to me that there are people who the tag line of “Become a Global Citizen. Subscribe to FT,” works on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1502573411339542528?cxt=HHwWgIC5_c-jm9opAAAA
I followed the story from Twitter, and it wasn’t paywalled for me that way.
Think about that. “Fundamental rights” evidently means nothing to these people.
Fundamental. Fundament. Foundation. That’s just something you walk all over.
Im gonna commit some sort of ethical violation, but I have an open spot for a position that needs the best and well, my buddy is the best. Favoring him shouldn’t be bad but I will do whatever I can to make sure he gets the position
we need welders
and I have a nephew who is a brilliant welder
but is such a garbage person that I know won’t even show for work half the time that I would never mention his name to my worst enemy
He is a friedn for 03-08 military days. He is brilliant and has the drive that I know can work with what I am trying to achieve. Asking him to move a family of 6 is the tough part.
Know how you feel. I have relatives asking if there are opening at my company. (Nope)
Is he…advocating that…classrooms and their teachers have lost the plot?
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1502759910521589767
I guess?
WOULD THEY CONSIDER WORKING FOR THE SWISS?
Seems another store in the area had gotten popped for selling to underage, and in light of the fine (I think $30K or something) all the stores in the area were hyper-vigilant.
It makes me want to buy a half dozen cases of beer and hand them out at the high school.
They should just back truckloads of kegs with taps on them, up to the dooors and leave them there. Then handout hard liquor and the hardest drugs available. Can you even imagine attending a public school today? That has to be like the worst case of child abuse imaginable.
Hipster Juice!
Damn, it’s nasty outside. I was at Whole Foods and I saw so many ditry smelly hipsters that I was practically begging my wife, let’s just go home, it’s getting worse outside. 3 hours later…
The biggest impediment to getting to the moon is the federal government itself. Stop holding up SpaceX operations in Texas. Cancel every cost plus contract, and stop handing out new ones. Pay for services rendered instead.
The biggest impediment to
getting to the moongetting anything done is the federal government.FIFY
Pay for services rendered instead.
….but that significantly decreases the avenues for graft?
Jugsy has her 2 elephantine friends over, and Im working tonight so I need to get to sleep.
/kicks rocks
Uh…ya?
Pics texted to GT for confirmation.
Well, no luck buying Russian vodka at the liquor store. I pretty sure the state is going to demand that it be dumped down the drain soon. They’re never going to be able to unvirtue signal their way into selling it again.
That is what the TikTok influencers are for. I bet there will be a new “liberty” vodka drink in the next 6mos they will push and demand of Russian vodka will soar.
For vodka, America’s most-popular spirit, the trouble started before Russia invaded Ukraine
Of course, all of the current flavored vodkas on the market are technically gins.
There are some great Idaho vokdas though
I dunno if it’s great, but I’d totally buy it
https://youtu.be/rvXBUBOdYAw
I don’t think they get what the point of vodka is.
Proper ethanol doesn’t have a “flavour,” dammit.
Neph. When you have your time out if you don’t mind the Uber trip, we’d love to have you over for some homecooked dinner. Id probably smoke some ribs or pork or something.
I am carrying The First That Will Change Everything which will blend the light and the dark into one wonderful future. Where is my dinner invite?
Do you people have no shame?
Shame. Who knows?
Taste? Yes.
I’ll run it by the girlfriend, but I don’t see an issue with that. Most likely Sunday or Monday would work best for that while we’re out there.