Came across a fun map of places in the US that get bagged on by people in their own state. Just poking fun, as I have no ill-will for any of the towns identified in the five states I’ve lived.
Although I get why people hate Pueblo. Its the origin of “the slopper”.
This is my review of Walter Station Brewery Hazing Arizona IPA:
There are a lot of towns on this that I haven’t been to, so I will withhold judgement until I hear from somebody that actually has been there. The town identified for Arizona, Apache Junction (AJ), is sort of correct. While most people in Arizona live in the Phoenix area, and quite frankly just make fun of Tucson for various reasons. Both cities however, can agree on AJ.
AJ is a smallish farm community on the eastern outskirts of the Phoenix-Mesa metro area. Just go east on the US-60 from Mesa and you’ll run into it. During high school I had the unfortunate circumstance of having to play football out there—twice. Freshman and Varsity had a home game against AJ and while I was on JV we had to go on the road. My junior year this was reversed and we did not play them senior year due to redistricting.
Yes, they sucked. AJ unfortunately gets a bad rap for being exactly like the stereotypes found in the movie Raising Arizona. A bunch of trailer parks, a bunch of hicks with guns, all in the middle of the desert circa 1987. More unfortunately, all of this was real—except the accents. Arizona is too transient to have a discernible accent and just winds up sounding like California before the “uptalk” became a thing. A decent enough movie that actually holds up pretty well today since its just a goofy, modernized Western about honest outlaws.
AJ today is a very different place. To use an example from the movie, the final scene was filmed at Reata Pass. There was a steakhouse there that was pretty good but that part of town is now a good spot to find a home with a $1 million listing. AJ is the same way but for half the price because …there are still trailers.
I was asked to explain my scale (h/t: Chafed). If you are capable of brewing something that can be classified as beer and can get it on the shelf at one of the 6-7 places I typically buy beer, you get at least one point.
- Bland or flavorless swill you were conditioned by a government-industrial complex that constantly lies to you on behalf of its own interests out of hatred for you—to believe is actually beer
- Tastes like ass; probably just another an IPA
- Balanced, sometimes maybe even boring or unusual but misfired
- Unusual, but done well or its probably a stout. I will not apologize for liking stouts
This one is a hazy IPA. It more or less tastes like orange juice since the bitterness is a sweet citrusy blast that pretty much nails it if that’s what they were going for. Phoenix wine moms suggest to use it as a mixer with sparkling white wine to make a mimosa. This way “mommy’s special juice” is even more special. I believe they have it on tap at the airport. 6.4% abv, ≈60-70IBU. Walter Station Brewery Hazing Arizona IPA: 2.2/5
Dude.
Sweet!
Why would you apologize for liking stouts?
Can confirm Fayette-nam in NC. Not sure about Woodbridge in VA. In most places I’ve been, Fairfax, etc get a lot more hate.
Fairfax certainly earned it the last 2 years.
I don’t know about the accuracy of other places, but the city most people seem to talk shit about around here is Anchorage.
Porterhouses were on sale. They were a lil skimpy on the filet side. ?
I watch a lot of #vanlife vids and there are lots of Aussies doing it. I’ve also lately had a couple of Aussie clients.
That uptalk thing? Totes Aussie, too. It’s remarkable how many of the women do that, more than I’ve heard Americans do it.
Heading out to lunch.
Later, y’all.
Caramelized onion and bacon jam
https://www.everylastbite.com/bacon-onion-jam/
Try it!
Wendy’s puts that on one of its burgers. Can’t remember which. It’s not bad.
That would be great with a tomato jam instead of their coffee/honey monstrosity.
No one pays any attention to St. Cloud. And post-Floyd, most people are dunking on Minneapolis.
But their so sophisticated.
Their = they’re. Thanks autocorrect.
Beloit? who the hell even thinks about Beloit? Much less #’Dunking’ on it? Outside of Madison and Milwaukee the towns that get #’DunkedOn’ are Madison and Milwaukee. That they contain most of the population probably skews the numbers.
I was attempting to remember this guy’s reviews of Wis dive bars.
Warning Tiktok:
https://www.tiktok.com/discover/Wiscodivebarr
I’m unclear on what constitutes a ‘dive bar’ vs a ‘whole in the wall’ vs a regular bar. I mean, what is a place like this, just in the middle of nowhere?
I’m surprised there aren’t three more bars there.
zoom out.
every place that actually has a name has at least 3 bars.
The bad one, the shitty one, and the seedy one?
The center of Shawano itself seems to have a bunch, but out in the middle of nowhere?
I can see at least 10 missing from this map.
It’s the amount of force required to lift your feet off the floor.
I didn’t get what a dive bar was until I left my home town. Wh had bars, nicer bars and clubs.
A dive is a catch all for most of what you described above.
Most bars around here are what would be considered dive bars.
Large city and suburbs had bars that were meant to have a vibe or specialized in some type of or style of drink. Martini bar, tiki, Moloko Milk.
The non-dive type of bar began emigrating here in the 2000’s. But most would still be consider the neighborhood or dive bar.
Dat Buckhorn, dat luke like a fonsy place, better wear my clean blaze ornj wen I go dare.
Downtown Talmoon, MN, have a beer at Hayslip’s Corner, oldest bar in Northern Minnesoda.
For the sophiticated but tourists are welcome as well
https://foursquare.com/v/hayslips-corner/4cd46350aeb1224b0a311cff
AJ has always sucked. Before the current highway system was put in the road that way was the most used way to get out to go “tubing” on the Salt River. By the odometer there was a Circle K every 2/10th of a mile. There was also a shitty steak place there called the Lost Dutchman Inn, if I remember correctly.
Reata Pass was okay, but I preferred to get the Chili Burger at Greasewood Flats “next door” to it. It was a good burger with a split open roasted verde chili on top. Back when the pavement ended at Reata Pass we would sometimes stop in for some food after quail/rabbit hunting. We would check our pistols in at the door like the sign said instead of just keeping them in the car. Why? Because the looks we would get from visiting tourists. It was obvious we were high school kids and that we and the staff just were calmly passing firearms back and forth would get stares.
That’s awesome!
Williston seems accurate. It was ground zero of the shale oil boom a few years back and it turned into a big shit show.
While St Cloud is high on the list I’d have thought PO Nick’s town of renown would have won the contest. There are plenty others to choose from too,
Int’l Falls comes to mind. Every community has it’s own local rival to dump on but too local.
That Slopper looked good enough to eat, that’s some serious man food there.
Gresham, if Portland was the entire state. But makes sense given the likely composition of redditors voting for that.
Fucking Post Master General!
Thanks for explaining your scale MS.
This was another week you took one for the team. I am not a fan of IPAs. Never apologize for enjoying stouts.
I hate IPAs less than I used to. As a rule, I like the hazy ones better. Still hate the hop bombs.
Stouts and Porters are great when I’m in the mood. Looove Peanut butter Porters
The peanut butter ones get too sweet for me. Despite being a fat fuck, I do not have a sweet tooth.
No problemo
From my time living in various states I can confirm: Cali-Bakersfield (Barstow runs a close second), NC- Fayettenam, SC-Myrtle Beach, WA-Tacoma Aroma, IN- Gary, MT- Butt. From my time in PA, Scranton always got more dissing, probably from the song. WY always dunks on Rock Springs because, well it’s Rock Springs. Jackson always gets shit because it might be scenic but it is no longer Wyoming. HI- Even those who have the misfortune to live in Waikiki diss Waikiki- but locals more diss Waimanalo.
The referenced song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGldNpngDws
I only lived in California for like a month, but fucking Bakersfield is the asshole of Hillary’s tooth-laden stomach vagina.
But Bakersfield was the home of a great branch of country music, plus you can escape to Yosemite or the Sierra’s easily enough. If industrial engineering is your thing visiting Tehachapi Pass is great. But the city itself is “shudders”. Barstow is hot, nothing, and nowhere. It is also where you depart the Interstate system for Ft Irwin and the end of the world’s longest cul-de-sac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2pgWsYSyUA
I trust Dwight Yokum’s opinion on the subject.
Hey, you don’t know me, but you don’t like me
You say you care less how I feel
But how many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
excellent tune.
+1 music video
For Buck Owens, +1 Act Naturally
Buck and The Buckaroos covering Along Came Jones – https://youtu.be/Au7010LztLE
After linking to a Ray Stevens pandemic song, I got led to this.
I pulled off in Barstow between Vegas and LA in ot 2 because I was having car troubles. No shit the mechanic/gas station I pulled into had a guy sitting out front in a rocking chair wearing an eye patch. I decided the car trouble wasn’t that bad.
“I pulled off in Barstow”
TMI
The old guy with the eye patch seemed to enjoy it.
You got off with a wink of his eye?
“Ill keep an eye out for you!”
On our family trip to California back when I was a kid, we suffered a blowout on the interstate in the Mojave, and spent the next day at the Ford dealership in Las Vegas getting the van fixed. I had only seen the gaudy neon lights photos of Vegas from the World Book Encyclopedia, and this view of Vegas was decidedly unglamorous.
Shit. It can get pretty unglamorous right off the strip. First time I walked off of it, it was pretty eye opening.
HIPSTER JUICE!!!
Can confirm that Brockton, MA is a crime-ridden shit-hole
You know the “Egypt” that is the basis for the expression “B.F.E?” It’s in Texas. I don’t know anyone that would consider Beaumont to be worth bagging one, since Orange and Vidor are so close.
I have a few cousins from Beaumont. It may be forgettable but its not a bad place to live.
I would have guessed Port Torchard, Yakistan, or Vantuckey would have handily beat Tacoma.
Likewise OK. Way too many small pointless towns to shit on Muskogee.
I hope GT is paying attention ’cause in these parts we have Drexel.
It is THE place to go for shitty weed, occasional shoot-outs, and junkyards.
Like this? https://youtu.be/CDJ8ocSN5GE
Near enough. I used to take a friend there to procure certain things, and one of the guys he’d see was called Yak.
Not because Yak was Russian or Eastern European. I think cause he was smelly & hairy. Same friend got a christmas card one year from that guy & his wife.
It was signed “Yak & Tracy”
Like others around here, I like Dolly Parton the person, but not the music.
Don’t know if this is true or not, but I want it to be.
https://twitter.com/MarlowNYC/status/1505012043493036032?s=20&t=XOsNJWUwsdHkNxvxNlr7-Q
A favorite Dolly quote: “I’m glad I was born a girl. Otherwise, I be a drag queen.”
Except 9 to 5 I don’t care for most of her big hits, but she was able to throw some sound.
I had to read that a couple of times.
Big HITS. HITS.
OK, now I get it.
When I was a kid we put on a kind of ‘review’ show for my parents’ with shitty ‘magic’ and ‘comedy’. On the bits I did was putting balloons down my shirt and being Dolly. Today they would lop off my dick and inject me with hormones.
Maclean & Maclean know – https://youtu.be/Vh9Rpt5v5CA
“Coding error”
https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/18/cdc-data-kids-pediatric-covid-coronavirus-deaths/
C://Run/AllDeaths=Covid
That looks about right.
Yeah, I’ve never heard anyone mention Binghamton for any reason and I’ve lived in New York most of my life. The obvious answer is “New York City” if you don’t live in New York City, and if you do, “blank stare” because nobody here has anything to say about the rest of the state.
How about Niagara Falls, bunch of toothless mutants up there.
Yeah, Niagara Falls is kind of a dump. Worse than Binghamton, anyway.
I only remember Niagra Falls from 1986, but we were only in the touristy part. Also, we toured behind the falls.
Get a block away from the Falls and its all trash.
I don’t know much about Binghamton, outside of the fact that tons of NYC kids go there to get away from mom and dad.
I can only assume that is where the alleged dumping is coming from?
Could be. They do have a major SUNY school. The other major campuses are in Buffalo and Albany and you would think Albany would get all the dumping because Albany really is a dump.
Hey, I mentioned this in the forum, but I don’t think anybody actually saw it.
*looks around to make sure the surprise is preserved*
I was thinking about a way to show our gratitude to SP for the site and for being the matron of the community. Of course, it would have to focus on an inside joke.
My idea was for us to each get a (clean) can lid, whether it be to a canning jar or otherwise, put your handle on it along with a message, and then mail them to me or a more crafty Glib to be glued to a board and framed. Then me or the crafty Glib can mail it to them.
1) yes? No? Stupid idea, trashy?
2) any better ideas or improvements?
3) anybody who is better at art want to be the collector of the lids?
I wanna see the look on the face of the postal inspector that gets that package.
I like it!
I would have thought to make a mobile out of it, windchime-ish and I love windchimes.
As to the overall idea, I think it’s lovely and clever.
See, this is why I need somebody creative and artsy to pull it together at the end! Great idea!
I think it is hilarious. I like the mobile/windchime idea.
Canning jar lids may make it more kid safe, SP being like 10, after all.
That’s a great idea.
Enjoy some babes with your beer.
https://archive.ph/HqO9y
“Coding error”
“Accidentally”
4th Street?
Accideliberately.
Gotta love automatic line-guessing technology: Referee’s watch notifies him on an obvious non-goal, yet he awards it and has to go to VAR to correct it.
New Jersey would be “Atlantic City” but for the fact that Camden exists.
Too close to call. But Paterson should get a few votes in the urban decay category. Rural shithole division has a clear winner in Vineland.
Now, now. For Cumberland County there are options.
Like say Millville.
I grew up in South Jersey. Still much prefer it to living in Essex County.
Used to live in Altoona. Im still pretty close and frequently have to go there for my work. Its not even the worst place in south-central PA. Johnstown is.
It might be the pizza that gets people to dunk on Altoona though. Dont believe me? Just do a search for “Altoona style pizza”. Dont say I didnt warn you though.
American cheese or Velveeta?
There’s a possible reason for the tales of my mom’s terrible cooking?
Is that one of those places that sell pizza by “the strip” ?
“,,,and pizzas cut into squares instead of wedges.”
Oh, we do that here. See also: Cassanos, Marion’s, Donato’s
Fecking pub cut pizza.
Did you at least go out for your special three way (Actually SFW) on Thursday?
I’m a purist. If I’m in chili parlor like Skyline, or their competitor Gold Star, its cheese coneys for me. I don’t fuck with chili and spaghetti.
Camp Washington beats them both, but Im not always so hungry Im driving to Colerain.
Also, the Skyline you have up there isn’t the same as the one down here. I remember going to the one in Lyndhurst and the taste was…off.
Tres:
The Lyndhurst one is the only Skyline still operational up here. At least I think it’s still operational, been a while since I’ve been on that part of town.
Square cut is only acceptable for cracker crust and small children’s pizzas
You all are wrong, but that’s ok.
Branson is the dunked-on city in Missouri. I’m not sure that’s fair, as it’s just one long tourist trap, but very shiny and well kempt. Also, it has Silver Dollar City and I love Silver Dollar City.
I’m kinda surprised St Louis or a town around there wasn’t the winner. From an outsider’s perspective, I’ve gotten the same feeling there as I get in Memphis. “How long until I can get out of the city limits?”
Mojeaux has confirmed in the past that it is actually the nicest part of the state. 😀
Not sure what it says about the rest of Misery tho. 😉
No, the nicest part of the state is wherever I prefer to be, which is in Kansas City, on the Country Club Plaza. ?
I think I got KC and St Louis mixed up.
Agreed with Trashy that being in St Louis makes you want to leave the state- East, West, whatever.
Interesting. I didn’t hate Springfield when I visited there. Never been to KC
Springfield is just kind of THERE. It’s a pretty generic city.
St Louis and Kansas City couldn’t possibly be more different if they tried. They’re just worlds apart culturally, but I can’t say exactly why except St. Louis has an East Coast vibe and Kansas City has a friendly frontier vibe. Still the gateway to the west.
East St. Louis certainly has a murderous vibe. Or at least the last time I was there. Briefly.
Technically (which is the best correct), East St Louis is in Illinois.
Likewise, its counterpart in the west, Kansas City, Kansas, is also a dump.
I don’t know what it says about me that I’ve been to both places.
w/e
I was thinking of the Greater Metropolitan Area. Which can also be correct. And damn it! To me it is!
I need to eat something and get to bed.
Jesus. Lock the doors and pray the car doesn’t break down.
+ Roll em’ up!
+1 Griswold
Are you the Queen of the Silver Dollar?
(I can’t link on my phone)
Branson “my dad says it’s what Vegas would be like if it was run by Ned Flanders.”
LOL I can see it.
Driving from St. Louis to Tulsa on I-44: 60 miles of non-stop Branson billboards.
Mexican, your grading scale is tough, but fair (maybe even lenient to IPAs, honestly). I like that there is no criteria for 5. You can always do better.
I just pulled up my Untappd stats (which for a while didn’t have quarter point ratings, and quite a few were rated on a small sample only at a fest). Over 4,000 beers rated, average rating 3.64 (out of 5), Of all of the beers, only 74 were rated a 5, while over 100 were rated below a 3. The big spike in the ratings is at 3.5 (over 1,000 beers rated here).
I don’t think I’ve ever scored a perfect 5, at least one that wasn’t obviously a joke.
For anyone who’s been thinking “Gosh, I’d like a Beretta 1301 tricked out like R C’s”, Langdon Tactical has some listed on GunBroker. Given the aftermarket gizmos included, the price isn’t bad.
That is all. Carry on.
I’ve been saving my pennies for one of those.
Meh. Shotguns are for people who lack precision.
?
*Raises hand in acknowledgment*
*High-fives RN*
Says a guy that doesn’t shoot skeet or trap.
#FakeNews
I’ll shoot sporting clays, skeet, and trap.
Call me imprecise then.
If the criteria is “a city that is likely to be know to out-of-state residents,” then Toledo is not a bad choice. “Your Port To World Markets,” my spotted pink behind. However, it’s not the city traditionally known as “The Mistake on the Lake.”
In the Grummun household, we bag on all of Perry County.
Yet, anyone form Buffalo is always impressed by Cleveland: “Oh wow, its so nice!”
*cries softly into beer*
The only major difference I noticed is that Cleveland is more spread out. They both have their good and bad areas. (Though in my short visits to Cleveland I didn’t actually get to see any nice areas… I’ve been assured they exist, however.)
They do… for a given value of nice.
Parts of downtown are quite nice. It’s been some time but isn’t there a district of warehouses that have converted into restaurants and shops?
That would be the warehouse district. Currently in a bit of a slump as the East bank of the Flats has been rebuilt and revitalized now (second time I remember in my life). Still a couple of old standard clubs there, as well as a couple of newcomer bars. There’s also the East 4th neighborhood, which is currently in flux after several big name closings (before, during, and after the ‘vid lockdowns). From what I’ve read, the shuttered places all have new tenants, and a couple are getting ready to open “soon”.
I’ll hope for the best. I’m likely to be in Cleveland this September.
Chafed:
Off the top of my head, not much in the way of vegetarian food in either of those areas (mainly BBQ, charcuterie, and sausages). For that, you’d have better luck ducking over to West 25th (Ohio City) area, or Tremont. Feel free to reach out when the trip is closer, and I can send over some more specific recommendations.
Downtown seemed nicer to me.
There was more activity from what I saw on recent visits but I haven’t been to Buffalo in decades so who knows.
Nighttime it becomes a very different place. The only activity is the roving “homeless vets”.
And the panhandlers are more aggressive than anywhere I’ve ever been except maybe San Francisco.
On one three day trip I had to hide from one who was parked outside my office building the whole time. He got pissed at me for ignoring him on my first day.
Is it still $20?
I had completely forgotten this little ditty.
Today was one of the most amazing days of my life. /eom
KK got some on the boat!
For KK.
Sex ain’t nothing compared to today
OK, then here you are.
https://youtu.be/siwpn14IE7E
I assume Woodbridge gets dunked on in Virginia because the poll was filled out by DC shitheads who pretend to be multicultural but actually think brown people are icky.
Who dunks on Hagerstown when Baltimore and its various burbs exist?
Watching Sint Maarten fade in the rear view.
Lovely island. Did you get much time there?
A mere few hours. Unfortunately the big Euro planes were arriving too late in the day. We had to get back on board at 3:30.
oh! is that the island that has the crazy beach runway? I’ve seen those vids, looks wild.
Yes’m…was INCREDIBLE
One of my favorite vacations ever.
“How Kristen Got Her Groove Back”
Espanola is dead-on for NM. At one time there were so many “Espanola Jokes” and “Espanola Cheerleader Jokes” that LANL management had to issue a threat to fire people who passed them around.
What’s the difference between a ’57 Chevy and an Espanola Cheerleader? Not everyone has been in a ’57 Chevy.
I don’t get the Texas Red reference on the front page.
An old gunfighter ballad called “Big Iron”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7AbQbw8bbc
I was in Greeley, CO last night. Best BBQ I have had since moving to Colorado. Which is a damn low bar.
As far as Louisville, KY goes…the rest of the state is just jealous. There has been exactly one KY governor from Jefferson Co, and he was from Middletown, not Louisville proper.
There was a decent BBQ place in Colorado Springs called Bird Dog. I’d say it was pretty good except the place I was previously stationed was in S. Carolina.
So its decent.
Well, certainly I dunked on Espanola when I lived in NM, so yes. But I question Bakersfield for CA because I doubt anyone north of LA even knows it exists.
awww Pahrump, NV. Perhaps that’s good and it’ll keep the hipsters out for HE.
My Romeo 5 arrived today for my basic bitch AR. I need a sling now.
Porterhouses and filets are salted for tomorrow. Tomorrow is gonna be a good day.
Steak.
Burgers from my baby-mama’s family’s meat market, sans bun
Salad with Cardini’s dressing.
And a all-meat calzone that I gutted like a trout bathed in Moore’s buffalo ranch
Last night’s beers wrecked me so I apologize for my profanity-fueled ranting on Zoom. I think that’s what happened anyways…
Dammit. I missed it.
Encore tonight?
Without clicking the map link, I am 100% certain the Vermont one will be Rutland
You are correct. Wish I could click on that pic – small on my phone – almost as small on my laptop.
Osprey racks up some more kills
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2022/03/19/4-united-states-marines-killed-in-osprey-crash-norway-confirms/
The article’s end mentioned the fatal “hard landing” on Oahu in 2015. I was out there the next day for my job. I wonder what a crash looks like since the hard landing was just a black scorched area with blobs of melted metal and two isolated engines sitting on the ground.
I flew on them a couple times in Iraq. The speed over ground was nicer than being in a CH-47 or CH-46, landings and takeoffs were serious anus clenchers.
Four? I knew it was difficult to fly, but seriously?
For those who don’t want the extreme detail on Jomini of the West, but want to get some analysis on what is happening in the UKR/RF war this is a good website with almost daily updates.
https://www.understandingwar.org/
Thanks, but I’m not able to load the page.
Aw man. I liked John Clayton.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33541834/long-nfl-reporter-john-clayton-dies-67?ftag=MSF0951a18
Mom! I’m done with my segment!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvXRaSvxmqg