Naming the Fleet 2

by | Mar 3, 2022 | History, In Memoriam, Military, National Security | 254 comments

USS BULKELEY (DDG 84)

The next ship is one I only have a tangential connection to – the USS Bulkeley (DDG 84) is named after Vice Admiral John D Bulkeley – who was actually a major figure in my current unit – the Board of Inspection and Survey.

Are you cool enough to be featured in your own comic book? (We’ve got a copy of this framed at HQ)

John Bulkeley had a particularly distinguished career in the Navy – the kind they make comic books about (pages 13-16).  A contemporary of Gordon Chung-Hoon, Bulkeley was a member of the Naval Academy class of ’33.  You can’t exactly call his early career very promising though.  He only made it into the Naval Academy by switching from his home state of NJ to Texas to receive an appointment.  However, due to budget constraints during the Depression period, only the upper half of the graduating class received a commission in ’33.  Bulkeley next tried out the Army Air Corps, but didn’t have much luck.  A year later however, as part of a government jobs program(!) he was back in the Navy, commissioned as an Ensign.

LTJG Bulkeley (seated center) on board USS Sacramento while in Shanghai

(We have a framed pic on the office wall of him in China during the 30s – but can’t locate anything online at the moment – this pic may do for the moment) Bulkeley wound up in China as Chief Engineer on an old Asiatic fleet gunboat after he decided it would be a worthwhile challenge to steal the Japanese ambassador’s briefcase from a steamer stateroom and deliver it (via a brief swim) to Naval Intelligence.

Big brass ones on these boys

At the beginning of the war, he was a Lieutenant in command of Motor Torpedo Boat Squadron Three based in the Philippines.  As the Japanese began their invasion of the Philippines soon after Pearl Harbor, he lead a series of effective attacks against Japanese Naval Forces in the region between 7 Dec 1941 and 10 April 1942.  It should be noted that during this point in the war, the US Navy still had significant issues with torpedo effectiveness (ie…will they actually detonate when they hit something? – generally something of a concern when you’re in the middle of a shooting war), but each motor torpedo boat was also armed with two dual-50 cal machine gun turrets and two 30 caliber machine guns.

Restored PT 658 (a regular visitor to the Portland Rose Festival – missed my chance to take a tour…)

These guns proved very effective against enemy aircraft and smaller Japanese shipping during the early parts of the war.  Around about 22 January 1942, during the sinking of two Japanese Landing Barges, Bulkeley is recorded to have actually boarded one barge, removed two wounded Japanese troops and retrieved documents as the barge sank under him.

Follow the red dotted line

Bulkeley really hit his stride in March, when he carried out the successful evacuation of General Douglas MacArthur and the remainder of his key staff from the island fortress of Corregidor to Mindanao – a journey of over 600 nautical miles through enemy infested waters and open ocean.  As a result of his actions during this Philippine campaign (7 Dec 1941 – 10 April 1942), Bulkeley was awarded a Medal of Honor, Two Distinguished Service CrossOne Navy Cross and a Silver Star – the last specifically for the VIP evacuation operation.

Chilling post-Philippines 1942

That’s a hell of a record for anyone – especially during that timeframe, but Bulkeley was just getting warmed up.  After a little R&R and war bonds sales pitches, he ran into Joseph Kennedy and facilitated JFK’s entry to the Motor Torpedo Boat Training Center in Rhode Island.

A little later, Lieutenant Commander Bulkeley headed to the European theater and during the Normandy Invasion, commanded a motor torpedo boat squadron (and minesweepers) clearing lanes to Utah Beach and screening for German E-boats.  Bulkeley and his boats picked up wounded sailors from three US ships that were sunk (USS Tide, USS Rich and USS Corry).  He was awarded a Legion of Merit for actions between 6 June and 17 July 1944.

On D+38, Bulkeley was summoned to USS ENDICOTT (DD 495) and given command – in his own words:

“We got in a whaleboat and went over to the Endicott, where he [the Commodore] told me to go down in the plotting room and stay there until I heard that the commodore had left the ship.  I was then to go up on the bridge and announce that I was taking command.  There were no written orders or notifications to the Bureau of Personnel—or anyone else.  So I took command and got the ship under way.  And away we went, down to the invasion of Southern France.”

(Editor’s note…wartime or not – this is an insane way to assume command – even moreso given that they were in the middle of a campaign – I have no doubt that it happened to other folks over the course of the war, but to go from small boats to a Destroyer overnight is really astonishing – and a good sign that he had all the confidences of senior leadership).

Over the course of a 3 day transit he didn’t have a lot of time to get stuff ship-shape from the shoddy condition in which he found it –

“Look, this is a fighting ship.  She might get into action, if you’re going to save your lives, you’d better work like hell, night and day.  We’re going to be watertight.  And you’re going to make damn sure all the guns are working, and the ammunition is readily available.”

Their initial mission was a diversionary action – to make a lot of noise and serve as a distraction.  As a result of their “pre-invasion bombardment” the Germans moved up to two divisions 80-100 miles east of the intended Allied landing site – resulting in an unopposed assault by the allies.

Having taken some damage, ENDICOTT was directed to Sicily for repairs.  En route, Bulkeley received word that two British river gunboats (HMS Aphis and HMS Scarab) were being engaged by German gunboats.  As he prepared to engage the German ships –

“I ordered our 5-inch guns to commence firing at a range about 6,000 or 8,000 yards—good-hitting range.  About two minutes went by, and no guns fired.  I said, “What the hell is going on?”  Right off the bat, we had a problem closing the breaches.  We had overheated parts of the guns during the earlier shore bombardment, which caused them to seize up.  The only gun we had working was mount three.  A great big strapping gunner’s mate first class was in charge of that turret.  He was loading the shells by ramming them in by hand.  The breach itself was sticking, and it wouldn’t fire unless it was fully closed.  So he used a sledgehammer to pound it tight. [ed. Wish I could track down this absolute chad’s name] At that time we began to fire.”

Snapshot of a sinking German Ship

The ENDICOTT quickly sank both ships (with only the one gun) and recovered 179 German prisoners.  Bulkeley received his second Silver Star for this action on 17 August 1944.

“What else could I do? You engage, you fight, you win. That is the reputation of our Navy, then and in the future.”

(If you can believe it…HMS Aphis was commanded by Douglas Fairbanks Jr at the time.

Photogenic chaps – LCDR Fairbanks on left, LCDR Bulkeley on right.

Bulkeley held a variety of other commands throughout the cold war, including Destroyer Squadrons during Korea, and Guantanamo Bay following the Bay of Pigs Invasion, but he reached the apex of his technical career as the President of the Board of Inspection and Survey between 1967 and 1988 (this is traditionally a 2 year billet for the average Rear Admiral).  If you’ve been keeping track of the dates….that gives Vice Admiral John Bulkeley over 55 years of service.  Although he technically retired in 1975, he was recalled in a retired-retained status until 1988.  This puts him in a special sort of technical category alongside Hyman Rickover and Grace Hopper – a position where exceptionally talented individuals were retained to the greater benefit of the Navy and the country as a whole.

A long and storied career

INSURV has a worthwhile mission – and as a Reservist, it feels great being able to directly contribute to an active mission benefiting the service as a whole.  Especially being able to walk on board (and get underway with) all kinds of ships I never had the chance to serve on during my active duty service.  If anyone is interested, you can view the public FY20 report – very slimmed down from what I normally see, so a quick read frankly.  I’m looking forward to seeing my initial contributions (such as they are) represented in the forthcoming FY21 report.

 

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LCDR_Fish

LCDR_Fish

LCDR Fish is a service-queer veteran. Some days they identify as a grunt and some days they identify as a squid. Just don't call them a jarhead - that's triggering! Currently on reserve status as a filthy contractor.

254 Comments

  1. Not Adahn

    I was then to go up on the bridge and announce that I was taking command. There were no written orders or notifications to the Bureau of Personnel—or anyone else. So I took command and got the ship under way. And away we went, down to the invasion of Southern France.”

    Apparently that’s how things were done in my grandfather’s seabee unit. It led to him (and presumably other people promoted that way) not receiving much in the way of benefits afterwards.

    • UnCivilServant

      How do you stop someone who isn’t actually supposed to be there “Taking Command”?

      • LCDR_Fish

        He was probably the ranking officer on board.

        Which covers some other issues in the Navy – ie. the difference between Unrestricted Line Officer and Restricted Line Officer.

        Unrestricted Line Officers are specifically – SWOs, Subs, Aviators. Restricted Line Officers include Supply, Medical Corps, random technical stuff like Meteorology, etc.

        Only Unrestricted Line Officers can command ships or major shore commands. So if you were the last surviving SWO on a ship after a kamikaze strike and you were an LTJG – you would ALWAYS outrank a LCDR Supply Officer in terms of driving/commanding the ship.

      • Mojeaux

        Unless you’re Steven Seagal.

      • MikeS

        Air Force One is my favorite Seagal movie.

      • MikeS

        Derp. Executive Decision, not Air Force One

      • EvilSheldon

        Man, that’s a tough choice. Steven Seagal dies earlier in Executive Decision, but he still has less than an hour of screen time in Under Siege.

        Plus, Tommy Lee Jones as Strannix is one of my all-time favorite psychotic movie bad guys. Plus, Gary Buesey in drag. Plus, Miss July…

      • Chipwooder

        Tommy Lee Jones hammed it up something fierce in Under Siege, and I loved it. He was great.

      • hayeksplosives

        Jean-Claude Van Johnson easily beats all Seagall movies.

      • Ted S.

        Did they still do brevets in World War II?

    • EvilSheldon

      Seebees were interesting folks back then, and it hasn’t changed much. Part of it has to be all the high explosives and heavy earth-moving equipment.

      • Chipwooder

        I knew some Seabees in Okinawa and also in Iraq. Those guys are a breed apart, that’s for sure. Crazy dudes.

      • Sensei

        My uncle was a Seabee in VietNam. In his words he was young and knew no better.

  2. DEG

    he ran into Joseph Kennedy and facilitated JFK’s entry to the Motor Torpedo Boat Training Center in Rhode Island.

    That’s an interesting genesis of WANNAFUD.

  3. db

    “We got in a whaleboat and went over to the Endicott, where he [the Commodore] told me to go down in the plotting room and stay there until I heard that the commodore had left the ship. I was then to go up on the bridge and announce that I was taking command. There were no written orders or notifications to the Bureau of Personnel—or anyone else. So I took command and got the ship under way.

    Wow. How does that work? It’s not clear from the linked story whether the Commodore relieved the prior captain of command or removed him from the ship, or what. Was Burkeley senior to everyone else on the ship at the time? How does one just assume command like that?

    • db

      Sorry, Bulkeley, not “Burkeley”

    • LCDR_Fish

      Sounded like Commodore relieved/escorted the prior CO off the ship due to lack of confidence.

      When I was in Everett, the DESRON CO relieved the commander of a destroyer (for multiple sexual assaults on most of the female servicemembers under his command) and the DESRON deputy assumed immediate command (not much confidence in the XO either obviously).

      • db

        Yikes. Yeah, I’d imagine they’d have to have questions about the XO’s judgment in that situation, unless he was the one who reported the captain in the first place.

      • ron73440

        Was the commander the one committing the assaults?

        Or was he relieved because he was in charge when they happened?

      • Rebel Scum

        They were all relieved when it was over.

      • Lackadaisical

        Dang you for making me laugh.

      • juris imprudent

        He must’ve longed for days of rum, sodomy and the lash.

      • ron73440

        Holy shit, I thought I read it wrong, but I guess not.

      • Lackadaisical

        “The screening boards rely entirely on fitness reports and supporting documentation, which some believe makes the process more objective, officers told Stars and Stripes last year when asked about how flawed officers were obtaining high-profile commands.

        The boards do not speak with anyone who worked with each prospective candidate. The officers promoted to command never receive a job interview, which some officers believe might reveal some of the flaws in some of the commanders that ultimately fail.”

        That seems like a policy destined to fail at picking the best candidate. Them again, I have heard some study showing interviewing was basically a coin flip. Probably depends who is picking, and if those people got in under a shitty program then…

      • LCDR_Fish

        To be fair…it’s kinda hard to game the FITREP system. You might be a “diversity hire”, but you’re being ranked against every other officer your rank (and designator) in your command. The command is only allotted a set percentage of “EP/Early Promote” or “MP/Must Promote” slots based on total number of people – and *generally* you will start “P/Promotable” when you show up, and work your way up (or not) – the big thing for promotions is showing improvement over time. If you never show progression, that’s bad. And since you’re being rated against the other folks on your ship in your rank – everyone would recognize immediately if someone was being unfairly ranked.

  4. Lackadaisical

    @db.

    On the previous thread I didn’t read carefully, you were right. That’s a crazy jump in price, especially when they can pump all they want up in Canada.

    • LCDR_Fish

      Gas was up about .20/gallon locally compared to last week. This is sucking.

      • Lackadaisical

        Just 3 more years…

      • Ted S.

        Up 30 cents or more today compared to the last time I checked, which probably would have been Monday when I did grocery shopping after work.

        Monday it was 3.8xx, today it was 4.199.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Cheapest I can get 91 premium here in Edmonchukskianovich is at the local Costco, at the equivalent of $4.45 USD/US gallon. You’ve still got a ways to go! (Although I’m sure President Puddin’ Cup’s working on it.)

      • Ted S.

        4.199 was for 87 octane. I didn’t check the price of the higher grades.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        If Costco wasn’t around, my next cheapest price for the 91 would add another 20 cents/litre.

        Regular’s the equivalent of $4.20USD/US gallon. And it’s only that low ’cause we have a refinery on the northeast corner of town. Costco’s price for regular is only a few cents cheaper per litre than the “unrestricted” price (cost compression for the most popular grade, I assume).

        You’ll get there! I have faith in Uncle Joe! He’ll destroy the hydrocarbon-based economy yet!

    • db

      gotcha, thanks.

    • db

      pump all they want up in Canada.

      The winters are long, and they need to do *something* to break the monotony.

  5. ron73440

    Interesting story.

    I was in artillery and they are similar to the navy guns.

    I couldn’t imagine slamming the breech and then having to hit it with a sledge to close it.

  6. commodious spittoon

    This is beginning to feel a lot like covid. Something worthy of moderate concern is quickly becoming untethered from reality by fundamentally unserious people. It’s becoming faddish.

    • Not Adahn

      EA has removed Russia from FIFA.

      • Nephilium

        Firing up the gaming clients on the machine yesterday, and Ubisoft has a splash image with the headline:

        How Ubisoft Is Supporting Our Teams And The People Of Ukraine

    • ron73440

      That’s the Bee, right?

      Right?

    • Sean

      Derp.

    • Rebel Scum

      Russia needs to be dealt with seriously and severely. Stop pussyfooting around.

      • MikeS

        You don’t have to be so catty about it.

      • juris imprudent

        The response has to be purrfect.

      • commodious spittoon

        Meow is not the time for rash decisions.

      • Gender Traitor

        I have a feline you’re not taking this seriously.

      • db

        But we really have to make sure we understand all the potential lynx between policy and consequence.

      • pistoffnick the refusnik

        I’m feline nervous about getting a cat butt from TPTB.

      • Sean

        I’ll light the Swiss signal meow.

      • pistoffnick the refusnik

        *hisses at Gender Traitor*

      • Gender Traitor

        ^(^
        (*)

      • MikeS

        Don’t be such a pussy.

      • Animal

        That will be an ocelot of work.

      • rhywun

        I have feeling this one is litterally going to get out of control.

      • ron73440

        Swissy will lock it down, it will be like meowchwitz in here.

      • Rebel Scum

        I’ll accept the lion’s share of that.

    • ron73440

      We live in a society of empty gestures.

      When I was on active duty the command gave everyone permission to wear jeans to work in support of sexual assault.

      This was because a judge in Europe (Italy?) told a woman that because her jeans were too tight, she had to have helped take them off, so she wasn’t raped.

      Most of us wore our normal cammies, so I guess we support sexual assaulters.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Conway Twitty hit hardest.

      • pistoffnick the refusnik

        Nice! I just heard that song yesterday.

      • rhywun

        Ha I remember “jeans for gay rights” days in college.

      • commodious spittoon

        Were gays not allowed to wear jeans??

      • UnCivilServant

        Activists were trying to appropriate straight culture.

      • Lackadaisical

        No, they just liked how your butt looked in jeans.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Leather chaps only.

      • Pope Jimbo

        It was a part of an experiment. They were still trying to figure out if homosexuality was caused by Nature or Nurture.

        So everyone wore dungarees to college. Then they measured how many people were converted to the gay lifestyle.

        Turns out that jeans have zero impact on a person’s sexual orientation. Proving that gayness is caused by mothers coddling their kids too much.

      • Ted S.

        I made it a point to not wear jeans on those days, as well as the deliberately snubbing the other virtue-signalling wardrobe campaigns.

        That, and try to find something orange to wear on March 17.

      • Not Adahn

        In Ulster county?

      • Ted S.

        We have an Irish festival every Labor Day weekend [retches].

      • R C Dean

        wear jeans to work in support of sexual assault

        Well, there’s no way I’d wear jeans. I’d say the ones who showed up in cammies were the ones who opposed sexual assault.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t own jeans anymore. I forget what year I last had a pair.

      • Ted S.

        If they showed up in camo and blue helmets, they were the ones committing sexual assault.

    • Bobarian LMD

      It’s spelled fetish. A lot of war-boners are getting polished.

  7. Rebel Scum

    Meh. They’ll littorally name ships after anybody.

    USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10) is an Independence-class littoral combat ship of the United States Navy. The ship is named after former United States Representative Gabby Giffords, who was shot along with eighteen other people during a 2011 shooting in Tucson, Arizona. The ship’s name was announced by then-Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus on 10 February 2012. Gabrielle Giffords is the 16th U.S. naval ship to be named for a woman by the United States Navy, and the 13th U.S. naval ship since 1850 to be named after a living person.

    • UnCivilServant

      So, is it an unarmed vessel?

    • LCDR_Fish

      That’s for if/when I get around to the “less notably named ships”

      • Gender Traitor

        So… could I nominate someone to get a sub named after him?

      • LCDR_Fish

        Who?

        Carter has a Seawolf class sub named after him (1 of 3 of the class) – but he was a nuclear sub officer.

      • LCDR_Fish

        It was ridiculously political since Giffords (or her husband) have virtually no ties to the Navy in any way, shape or form.

      • juris imprudent

        The USS Stennis says “hello”.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Good point. I was thinking he was one of the SECNAV guys – but apparently not.

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah. As ludicrous as naming a ship after Harvey Milk is, at least he actually served in the Navy.

      • Chipwooder

        Stennis was the chairman of the armed services committee and greased a lot of Pentagon palms, I imagine, which would explain him getting a ship.

        I’m surprised it hasn’t been renamed, though, since he was a segregationist.

      • Gustave Lytton

        There’s one name missing from that list…

      • Chipwooder

        The USS Sea Dog is a great ship name!

      • Gustave Lytton

        No seasickness here. Brag away!

      • Gender Traitor

        He’s mentioned in a couple of “Hellcats” books about WWII Operation Barney. His wife liked to claim that Reagan’s role in Hellcats of the Navy was based on him. He’d just smile quietly to himself.

  8. db

    @LCDR_Fish,

    As a contractor and Reservist, when you are on board a ship, are you addressed by your rank, or are you just a civilian? Are you afforded any courtesies as an officer?

    • LCDR_Fish

      Depends on the circumstances. I did a tour as a contractor in 2017 – in civvies, etc. But in my current reserve job, I’m in uniform on military orders whenever I visit the ship – so salutes and everything.

      Same thing at my day job. Every now and then I put myself on orders for half a day (like giving a presentation in the building in January), walk in wearing my uniform, then go and change into civvies for the rest of the day. But yeah…not really that common depending what your work community is like.

  9. Not Adahn

    The Los Angeles Times reported that a man found a shopping cart on fire around 5 a.m. on Tuesday’s in the city’s Chinatown neighborhood. When the man tried to use a fire extinguisher to put out the flames, he realized there was a body inside the cart. Police later determined the body belonged to a 26-year-old woman.

    “We can’t say with 100 percent certainty that the person was actually murdered. There could be a bunch of different scenarios that played out prior to this,” Los Angeles Police Lt. Ryan Rabbett said,

    Mighty fine policework there Lou Ryan.

  10. MikeS

    Very cool series. I like all the pics, too, Thanks for sharing!

    • LCDR_Fish

      Found some nice archive sites for some of those pics – Military does do a good job with some records – although not always in a very organized format.

    • Ted S.

      The “taking a snapshot of a sinking German ship” should have been done in the style of Tom of Finland.

  11. juris imprudent

    This was a WWII PT boat, converted to a sportfisher post war. My first ride on her must’ve been 50 years ago, with my dad when she was captained by an old Portugee. As soon as you mentioned PT, I had to look it up to see if she was still out there.

    • LCDR_Fish

      Very interesting. That’s some serious modifications – I know some sport fishers have the same Jones Act restrictions depending on their size (for maintenance in the US, limited amount of foreign parts, etc). That entire hull has probably been rebuilt at least 2x if it’s that old.

      • juris imprudent

        Doesn’t ride like any other [purpose-built] fishing boat in the fleet.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Putin ain’t playin.

    Vladimir Putin has today branded Ukrainians ‘extreme gangsters’, claimed their army is using civilians as ‘human shields’, hailed his soldiers as heroes who are fighting to save innocent lives and said his invasion is going exactly to plan and schedule in a stunning act of hypocrisy and outright denial.

    The Russian leader, who eight days ago declared all-out war against Ukraine in a bid to topple its elected government and reunify it with Russia by force, denied that his troops are deliberately targeting civilians – despite reams of evidence to the contrary – and instead blamed ‘neo-Nazis’ holding citizens hostage.

    • commodious spittoon

      You know who else got himself in trouble for killing civilians while pursuing gangsters?

      • Lackadaisical

        No government agent ever?

      • commodious spittoon

        The answer was of course John Spartan, you buncha philistines.

      • Compelled Speechless

        That dude did rack up a bunch of righteous murder-death-kills. BTW, that movie might have been better than Orwell in having predicted our present. Also, Wesley Snipes rules.

    • db

      claimed their army is using civilians as ‘human shields’,

      Funny how, if you drop cluster munitions on urban areas, sometimes civilians get in between them and the military targets.

      • db

        Should read “…and the military targets defending the urban area”

    • Fatty Bolger

      This kind of talk makes me wonder if the reports about the offensive being at least partially stalled are actually true.

      • Chipwooder

        Strange new respect for Motor T.

      • Loveconstitution1789

        You really think the Russians planned to take more than 1 week to capture Kiev and install a puppet govt? Russians planned to quickly take Ukraine’s govt over and that is evidenced by use of airborne units.

        Ukraine has the Dneiper River running thru it and each river crossing can be more easily defended than if it was all open terrain.

        Watch how Putin acts. The worse the Russian military does in Ukraine the worse Putin looks.

      • Chipwooder

        My quarter-assed opinion is that the invasion clearly isn’t going according to plan, but it won’t matter in the end because the imbalance of force is simply too great, and the Russians have never had much hesitation to resort to attrition if necessary. The West is going to wave their little Ukrainian flags and will certainly help themselves to the yachts of Russian tycoons, but that’s the extent of the support Ukraine will receive. No one’s going to risk a nuclear confrontation over Ukraine.

      • Raven Nation

        “No one’s going to risk a nuclear confrontation over Ukraine.”

        Maybe not. My concern with this administration (and its various boosters and fellow-travelers) is that they could stupid us into a nuclear confrontation.

      • Gustave Lytton

        No one’s going to risk a nuclear confrontation over Ukraine.

        Shades of Summer 2014.

      • R C Dean

        it won’t matter in the end because the imbalance of force is simply too great

        That’s the way to bet, with this caveat:

        I don’t know if the Russians can dig the Ukrainians out of Western Ukraine. I think they can take the cities, but as long as there is a Ukrainian enclave, they haven’t conquered the country.

        Still no known: what are Putin’s victory conditions? Full annexation? I’ve heard all he is asking for at the peace talks is the status quo ante, essentially, with the only difference being that Ukraine formally recognize the status quo ante. Which strikes me as highly unlikely. I don’t think you invade another country just to get their parliament to pass a few bills.

      • LCDR_Fish

        We’re entering the MUD season too…looks like it’ll only get messier.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Or that they would be able to hold them to it in the future. Anything short of a Russian controlled puppet government (that lacked popular support) is going to work to prevent/defend against a further Russian invasion. Maybe not so overtly provocative but they’d be fools not to. Same with every other border country that isn’t a Belarus. Treaties signed under coercion are easy to disclaim, particular since Russia has twice broken the treaty of friendship.

      • juris imprudent

        If I were to venture a guess, I think this has less to do with what Putin wants out of Ukraine’s govt and more what he wants to demonstrate to Western govts.

      • R C Dean

        what he wants to demonstrate to Western govts

        What he’s demonstrated so far is that his army kinda sucks.

      • Chipwooder

        Professionals study logistics…..and basic fucking vehicle maintenance.

      • Chipwooder

        Well, that’s where I think things get dicey for Vlad. The original plan was a quick strike to topple the government and install a puppet regime which would recognize Russian claims on Donetsk and Luhansk. In this scenario, things would return to a semblance of normalcy relatively quickly, and much of the turmoil would be internal to Ukraine.

        Now, however, that’s gone kaput. The Russians are now fighting this war Grozny-style, leveling cities with artillery and trying to inflict maximum damage. I’m not sure that, even now, Russia actually wants to annex the entirety of Ukraine, but they wouldn’t be able to successfully do that now in any case. They are going to have at least a medium-intensity insurgency on their hands in whatever Ukrainian territory they occupy.

        Russia will win the war, but the chances of them winning the peace at this point seem very remote to me.

      • R C Dean

        Saw pics this morning (sorry, can’t recall the rabbit trail that led me there) of a Russian light armored unit (supposedly) in a suburb of Kiev that had been obliterated. Hard to get a count of the vehicles, but it was probably 8, anyway.

        The Ukrainians were looting weapons and ammo.

      • LCDR_Fish

        They looted a stack of Spetznaz TIGR-M vehicles in Kiev this past week (apparently an assassination squad sent in to get Zelensky that got absolutely wiped out).

    • Fatty Bolger

      This kind of talk makes me wonder if the reports about the offensive being at least partially stalled are actually true.

      • db

        It seems like they may be going over ground they have already covered.

      • Ted S.

        Send an army of squirrels over to Ukraine?

      • Rebel Scum

        Idk. There is talk of an amphibious assault at Odessa. The Ruskies are hitting it at all angles.

      • Swiss Servator

        Anyone got a file on that one?

      • Not Adahn

        *kiff sigh*

      • db

        Wondering if the US sailed a carrier group up the Bosphorus how long it would take to get hit

      • UnCivilServant

        They would get stuck in the straights like a cargo ship in the Suez.

        I don’t care that the straights are wider than the ships are long, they’d find a way to clog it.

    • Gustave Lytton

      in a bid to topple its elected government and reunify it with Russia by force

      Just like the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to make those the 58th & 59th states.

      • juris imprudent

        That actually makes the Russian intent to annex Ukraine, in whole or in part, more logical than what we did.

      • Compelled Speechless

        What we did was to enrich military contractors and spread the empire to the part of the world that controlled the oil and install a neo-liberal puppet government that would help the globalists further entrench themselves as the most powerful actors on the world’s stage. If you’re one of the globalists, what we did is incredibly logical. If you’re the average American taxpayer….not so much.

  13. UnCivilServant

    Arrg! My ear infection finally cleared, and my ear keeps changing its mind between being clear and being closed. I know, I know, it’s one of the stages of clearing, but it’s also damned infuriating.

  14. Lackadaisical

    Bulkeley sounds like a badass, kinda crazy to go from a little ship up to a destroyer like that, but I guess it worked out. Wartime makes expediency a virtue.

  15. Rebel Scum

    No more teaching about that asshole Ivan either.

    Auniversity in Italy has backtracked on a decision to postpone a course about the work of Russian author Fyodor Dostoevsky following a backlash.

    Italian writer Paolo Nori posted a video on Instagram on Tuesday saying he had received an email from officials at the University of Milano-Bicocca, in Milan, informing him of the decision to postpone his course following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. …

    Nori said he had been invited by the university to deliver the four-session course on Dostoevsky, whose novels include Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, Demons and The Brothers Karamazov, starting from next Wednesday. …

    “Not only is being a living Russian wrong in Italy today, but also being a dead Russian, who was sentenced to death in 1849 because he read a forbidden thing. That an Italian university would ban a course on an author like Dostoevsky is unbelievable,” he said.

    • Chipwooder

      This is getting beyond absurd.

      “I demand you remove Beef Stroganoff from your menu in solidarity with Ukraine!!”

      • Gender Traitor

        You can pry my Noodles Romanoff from my cold, dead hands!!!

      • Ownbestenemy

        So I made sure I made Beef Stroganoff with a vodka sauce while sipping a Moscow Mule and listening to Trotsky and munching on Chicken Kiev as appetizers. I think I am doing it wrong.

      • ron73440

        I always thought Beef Stroganoff was German.

        My Japanese wife makes an awesome version, but we eat it over rice.

      • ron73440

        I don’t know, but she doesn’t make as much since she found out the calories and fat in sour cream.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Switch to thick yogurt (Skyr, Greek-style, etc.). It’s a good substitute, with lots more protein and calcium.

      • ron73440

        Switch to thick yogurt

        Nah, I would rather eat it sparingly and get the real flavor.

      • Sensei

        Of course you do.

        There are surprising number of noodle dishes that work quite well over rice in my opinion.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Really any starch will work. You just need something to mop up all the goodness of whatever the sauce is.

      • Chipwooder

        That’s Chicken Kyiv, you Putin lackey!

      • Swiss Servator

        Were you watching Chekov’s parts in Star Trek as well?

      • Tres Cool

        Fun fact- Walter Koenig that played Chekov was born in Chicago. Of course, his parents were (((russians))) that emigrated.
        Their original (((name))) was Königsberg before they shortened it.

      • Not Adahn

        No, but he has Three Sisters.

      • EvilSheldon

        Seriously. Beef Stroganoff with vodka sauce? WTF?

      • Tres Cool

        Vodka- is there anything it cant do?

        I mean, it likely caused me to destroy a couple good relationships and lose some stuff. At least it can make me a filling supper.

    • Lackadaisical

      That’s incredible.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Next up, removing Solzhenitsyn from the shelves. That dirty Russkie.

    • ron73440

      I thought the cat thing was stupid.

      It’s not half as stupid as wanting to postpone this class.

      Should we cancel Solzhenitsyn also?

      Is it OK if my wife still puts Russian Dressing on her patty melt?

      • Chipwooder

        Just call it Ukrainian Sauce and all will be fine.

      • ron73440

        It’s “freedom fries” all over again.

      • Ted S.

        Call it Thousand Island instead.

    • Chipwooder

      I live two hours from DC and two hours from Norfolk. I don’t think I’d be living with their decisions.

      • R C Dean

        I will have an excellent view of the first strike on Davis-Monthan AFB and the Boneyard from my house.

        It will give a whole new meaning to that Tucson standard, “But its a dry heat!”.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep..same here for Nellis and the drone jockeys. I need to find some new googles and update my neighborhood “who are we going to get rid of first” plan.

    • db

      I wonder if Pittsburgh is still on the list…used to be, based on its steel production.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Edmonton’s on the list. There’s no way a nuclear power targeting the U.S. allows its ally immediately north to maintain an operational 500K barrel/day oil refinery. That’s a strategic asset.

    • Rebel Scum

      One of my favorite new trends is Democrats who mostly live in cities that have warheads pointed at them calling for a nuclear exchange.

      So the problem will solve itself?

    • EvilSheldon

      I live just far enough from DC, that I’ll probably survive the initial exchange. Lucky me.

      • R C Dean

        + 1 Super Mutant

    • MikeS

      The AFB I live close to used to control a bunch of Minutemen. Now they are “only” drones. Hopefully it has slid down the target list.

      • UnCivilServant

        Are there still empty silos up for sale?

      • MikeS

        Yes

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I betcha that price will be going up shortly.

      • Gender Traitor

        The one I’m close to has aliens on ice.

        Don’t know whether that helps or hurts my odds.

      • Tres Cool

        shhhhhhh!

        The 1st rule of Hanger 18 is the nobody talks about Hanger 18.
        I shouldnt have to explain Rule #2.

  16. Gustave Lytton

    From the named for living persons

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lehman

    He was unique in still serving as a commander in the Naval Reserve and on active flight status while being Secretary of the Navy.

    How TF does that work? Resigning your commission should be a first step for holding a position, particularly a nominally civilian one, with authority over yourself. Same for Congress.

    • LCDR_Fish

      In that specific role, I can see some conflicts but I don’t see that for general members of congress or state representatives, etc.

      • LCDR_Fish

        In that specific context, maybe better to follow the precedent of academy graduate sportsball player “temporary pause” in active commissioned status – rather than forcing resignation – no benefits, not promotable, no work towards rank, etc.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Congress has oversight, funding, and promotion authority. It’s a minor conflict of interest but still one, and there are plenty more fish in the sea without such a conflict.

  17. Gender Traitor

    ***SIGH!!!***
    Email from vendor management company we don’t even use anymore: “To avoid a banking system crisis, financial institutions are now expected to incorporate climate risk into their risk management practices.”

    No more loans on ICE cars, I guess.?

    • ron73440

      To avoid a banking system crisis, financial institutions are now expected to incorporate climate risk into their risk management practices

      Sounds like they are trying to create one.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      “To avoid a banking system crisis, financial institutions are now expected to incorporate climate risk into their risk management practices.”

      Fiddlers on the Titanic

    • Sean

      No more mortgages on shore homes.

    • R C Dean

      WTF does that even mean? What looming banking system crisis due to the weather? How does a bank insert the risk of hot weather into their risk management program?

      And, of course, expected by who?

      • rhywun

        It doesn’t have to mean anything.

        Just think of the banks as Czech shopkeepers putting a sign in their window to show they think pure thoughts.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Obviously the banking system will be destroyed by a climate driven Sharknado apocalypse, That’s just science, bruh.

    • Sensei

      For anybody publicly traded thats been a requirement for quite some time.

    • UnCivilServant

      Expected costs of climate change: $0
      Expected Risk From Climate Change: 0
      Climate Fee: 10% (For the Big Guy)

      • ron73440

        I didn’t catch it until later, but the 2nd knife article was excellent.

    • Tres Cool

      I suppose on a carrier its tough to just say “hey we dropped something….turn around and go get it”.

    • DEG

      I’m certain the damage will just buff out.

      • Sean

        Pack some rice in it.

  18. hayeksplosives

    That is a very respectable career. I hope somewhere we’re still making a few like that. Just haven’t seen it much lately.

    Thank you for the history lesson.

  19. Fourscore

    Thanks, CDR Fish. I’ve learned more about the navy in the past few weeks than I had before in my life. Very interesting.

    I did have a LCDR for a boss in a joint office though. We learned a few things from him and the PO1 that also worked there.

  20. Tres Cool

    | “What else could I do? You engage, you fight, you win. That is the reputation of our Navy, then and in the future.”

    I wonder what his thoughts are on the state of our current “woke” military.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I think its now “You affirm, you post socials, you advocate”

    • Not Adahn

      Did he ever collide boats?

      • Ownbestenemy

        He made sure to tug on the battleships from time to time.

      • Tres Cool

        Is that like docking ?

    • db

      He was in his 80s in 1994, so, probably not much at the moment.

      • Gender Traitor

        If he were alive today, he’d be spinning in his grave..

  21. hayeksplosives

    John Hanley was an engineer and entrepreneur in Minneapolis in the early 20th century. He founded and owned “Northern Pump” which made big firefighting pumps. When ww2 broke out, he bid on a contract to make hundreds of guns for allied and US naval vessels. He figured he knew how to make big metal objects, so why not?

    Hawley went all in, creating trolley lines to transport workers, building housing, throwing huge morale-boosting parties at the plant.

    I had the privilege of working at that plant from 2001-2018. Still had the original “REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR” banner hanging.

    One special thing Hawley did was commission painter Gordon Grant to make 5 paintings per year of US ships bearing Minnesota made guns. There are 20 in total. I have WW2 era prints of ten of them, and I’m starting to obsess about getting all 20. I still need the USS Hornet and the Gridley, among others.

    My personal favorite is the minesweeper.

    I could probably write an article about Hawkey and Northern Ordnance, as he renamed Northern Pump. Lists of tales. He was one of the last US business barons.

    • hayeksplosives

      Hawley, not Hanley.

      Stupid autocorrect needs to leave capitalized words alone.

      • ron73440

        That doesn’t explain the SF’d link though.

      • db

        Or is it Hawkey?

        I thought you were just fucking with us all.

    • Tres Cool

      Despite asking me to assume facts not currently in evidence, Im not going to argue with her.

  22. juris imprudent

    Feel the narrative collapse inside your mind.

    When the dust clears after the May 24 runoffs, as many as eight Latinos — including six women — could ultimately be Republican nominees for congressional seats across Texas. In the Rio Grande Valley alone, at least two Latinas will carry the GOP nod.

    • ron73440

      White Supremacists, the lot of them.

      • Tres Cool

        “white hispanic”

      • Rebel Scum

        White-supremes have gotten very diverse.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Demographics ≠ Destiny

      • juris imprudent

        Identity! Identity! You must conform to your identity!

    • Chipwooder

      They are traitors to other Latinx!

    • Not Adahn

      Wishcasting. The GOP puts up Hispanic candidates in an overwhelmingly Hispanic district. That doesn’t mean they’ll be the (also Hispanic) D candidate in the general.

      • Ted S.

        The article points out that the share of TEAM RED voters in the primary was up significantly from 2018.

    • commodious spittoon

      “Internalized white supremacy”/ “another shade of white supremacy.” Meanwhile they’re losing their iron grip on minorities.

      These are not smart people.

      • juris imprudent

        And let us be thankful for that.

  23. kinnath

    Gov. Reynolds signs Transgender Sports Bill into law

    DES MOINES, Iowa (KCRG) – Governor Kim Reynolds on Thursday signed a bill banning transgender women from competing in girls sports into law.

    The state Senate passed the controversial bill along party lines on Wednesday. The law goes into effect immediately.

    It will make Iowa the 11th state to enact a similar rule. It includes both high school and collegiate levels, and requires schools to designate sporting events as male, female or co-ed. Only students who are female according to birth certificate will be eligible to play girls sports.

    Iowa — hotbed of transphobia.

    • R C Dean

      Only students who are female according to birth certificate will be eligible to play girls sports.

      I believe there are states that allow birth certificates to be changed as part of the transing process.

  24. Rebel Scum

    In light of current events I decided to do a Russian campaign in ETW. So far I have conquered the Crimean Khanate (Crimea and southern modern Ukraine) basing operations out of 18th century Kiev. I also made short work of Dagestan, wrestled Ingria back from those dastardly Swedes, sent a fleet/army to conquer a Huron territory and captured the Leeward Islands from the pirates. I cornered the fur trade market but I would like to diversify. At some point I am going to make Georgia my bitch.

    • Not Adahn

      I would like to diversify

      You should also equify and inclusify.

    • UnCivilServant

      In my Russian playthrough, I got to Prussia where I had several quasi-historical battles where the more elite german troops were going to out-shoot me, so I ended up ordering fixed bayonets and simply swamping their positions with bodies. Somehow the other frontier of the Empire wandered down into India. I did not have any overseas holdings.

      If I hadn’t lost that savegame, I might have finally overrun Europe.

    • Tres Cool

      “No, Im sorry. The word was ‘naggers’.”

    • Sensei

      So does that mean they are going to stop shitting all over and injuring trees?

    • Rebel Scum

      The name was changed as the word “gypsy” is a widely acknowledged ethnic slur, the society says.

      News to me.

    • Gender Traitor

      “Sponges protest offensive cultural appropriation.”

      • juris imprudent

        “Leeches demand respect!”

      • Gender Traitor

        Likewise Stevie Nicks.

      • Fourscore

        Giving tramps and thieves a bad name

        A 100 years ago being an unhoused person meant hopping a train, taking a free ride and being a hungry tourist. My stepfather had a lot of stories of being a young man in 1920s-30s when jobs were scarce but trains weren’t. It was sort of romantic sounding except for the hungry part.

    • UnCivilServant

      “How do we have negative subscribers?”

    • Sensei

      Reminds me of when the NYT went subscription, but only for the editorials.

    • The Other Kevin

      They have commercials out touting their war coverage. “Look there’s a war! We’re good at covering war! Don’t you want to look at videos of the war, and people talking about the war, and maps about the war?”

      • Ownbestenemy

        Will they show a map of Georgia with Russian troops threatening to invade?

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        The South will rise again.

      • Sensei

        See how brilliantly Biden and Team Blue are handling this delicate situation.

        Talking heads will brilliantly explain how this is all Team Reds fault.

        Other talking heads will explain that only deplorables will be impacted by Team Blue’s economic agenda and that massive government spending will both not create inflation and fulfill all our energy needs from renewables.