Desk, Part 1

by | Apr 5, 2022 | LifeSkills | 237 comments

In my last article, I talked about building shelves over where my office desk will go. Now it’s time to build the desk.

My paying job is in computers. When the ‘vid started, the company sent me home with my desktop setup, which includes two large displays. I also enjoy the occasional computer game, and my gaming computer has a large display. And, I sometimes need to take apart/assemble computers, so it’s nice to have some bench space for that. This adds up to a fair amount of real estate.

 

Plan of desk.

 

 

That big L-shaped desk can be broken down into two pieces. One is 2’ x 7’ (the “short” section), the other is 2’ x 8’ (the “long” section). I didn’t want to put a leg in the inside corner, where I’d be forever whacking my knee on it, so the long section hangs off of the short section where they meet. This posed some structural challenges.

I still had some quarter-sawn red oak scraps, and one long board. The short section has leg assemblies at both ends. The long section has a leg assembly at one end, and hangs from the short section at the other end. The leg assemblies are made of two legs connected by rails, top and bottom. Two of them have plywood panels to class them up a little. The assembly under the desk in the corner did not get a panel.

 

There’re some legs in here somewhere.

 

While I wanted this desk to come out looking nice-ish, I decided early that ugly work is acceptable, as long as it ends up someplace less noticeable. So I literally glued up the legs out of scraps, and planned on hiding the worst of the seams in corners. I really embraced the ugly ethic on the legs for the assembly that ended up under the desk in the corner. Possibly I went overboard. Notice the legs at far left and third from left. I ran out of oak scraps and started using maple and cherry. I figured, “it’ll be buried under the desk, no one will ever see it.” On an unrelated note, I spend a disappointing amount of time recovering from mistakes or poor decisions.

 

Legs cut to final dimension, but not final length.

 

Because I was aiming for classy-ish, I made the leg assemblies using mortise and tenon joinery. Old timers would have cut the mortises by hand with a chisel. I have a cast-off paper drill that has been repurposed as a mortising machine.

 

It’s a mortiser.

 

Hollow chisel mortisers still leave a lot of crap in the bottom of the mortise that needs to be cleaned out by hand. I only made the mortises an inch deep, because I knew I would need to cut some pretty deep pockets for the long rails that support the desktop. I don’t own a tenoning jig, but the short 1” tenons were easy to cut on the tablesaw with dado blades1. For the assemblies that would have plywood panels, I needed to cut some slots to hold the plywood. The slots in the legs needs to be in the center of the mortise, so they lines up with the slots that runs in the center of the rails.

 

 

Ready for assembly.

 

After dry-fitting all the assemblies and checking diagonals2, the glue up was straightforward.

 

Assembled.

 

The long rails that go between the leg assemblies needed to be pretty beefy. They have a lot to support. Particularly the front rail on the short section also has to hold up the load from the long section. I ripped my long piece of oak into ~3” widths, and then also ripped a piece of thick maple3 into 3” widths. After planing just enough to get smooth faces, I laminated those together into front rails. I ripped another piece of maple into rails for the back.

 

If the question is, “Do I have too many 4 inch clamps?” the answer is always “No.”

 

After final dimensioning, the front rails were 3” x 1¾”, and the back rails were 3” x 7/8”.

 

Final dimension front rails for both sections.

 

When the desk is installed, the back rails are screwed to the wall studs, so I was not worried about them carrying the load. I tried to do some internet research on the expected load capacity of my front rails, but got confused. So, when in doubt, over-engineer. I picked up some 1½” by 1/8” angle iron from the local machine and supply place4. I cut a 1/8” relief on the bottom inside corner of the front rails, so the installed angle iron sits flush with the wood. The front rail will sit in a pocket in the leg assembly. Not really a mortise and tenon joint, but I cut a shoulder on the front of the rail so I can hide any sloppiness in the fit of the rail in the pocket.

 

Completed rail, bottom side up.

 

Every place that I’m gluing steel and wood together I’m using a polyurethane glue, in this case Gorilla Glue clear formula. For a wood glue, I like Titebond 3, mostly because it has a longer working time. But yellow (wood) glue won’t bond a non-porous material like steel or plastic. The putty visible in that last picture is a two-part epoxy wood filler that I used to fill the little gap between the angle iron and the oak. The oak was thin enough there that I didn’t want to risk it getting whacked by chair arms and splitting off over time.

In Part 2, I’ll do assembly and installation.

 


 

1 Dado blades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dado_set. Technically, I’m cutting a rabbet (a shoulder) on all four sides of the rail to make the tenon.

2 Comparing the measurements between opposing corners is a good way to check if your glue-up is square.

3 My brother-in-law makes butcher block countertops for a living. He gets in a crazy amount of #1 maple on a weekly basis. As a result, I can get maple pretty cheap.

4 I’ve been working on this project for a long time. I bought the angle back when it was just expensive, not “fuck me I was using that kidney” expensive.

About The Author

Grummun

Grummun

Sad Brad Marchand is the best Brad Marchand.

237 Comments

  1. The Hyperbole

    You need to get some hockey tape and wrap those clamp handles. You’ll thank me later.

    • Grummun

      That’s some good thinkin’. The Besseys with the red painted handles are slippery.

      • The Hyperbole

        I got the idea from Rob Cosman. credit where credit is due, and what not.

  2. kinnath

    Nice stuff

  3. MikeS

    Very nice. I, too, am a fan of over-engineering.

    • MikeS

      …and alt-text. Also very nice.

      • Chafed

        I guess I’m not alone. I really enjoyed the alt text.

  4. MikeS

    I’m probably asking a question with an obvious answer; what’s a paper drill?

      • MikeS

        You sucked me in with that first link. I should have known better.

      • Chafed

        Ted’S is a monster. Always remember.

    • Grummun

      Honestly, I’m not entirely sure. I got the machine from my in-laws in the current configuration, and they called it a paper drill. I assume it was for just what the name suggests, making round holes in a thick stack of paper or card stock. Although it’s only got about 2 1/2″ of travel, so not that thick a stack.

      • MikeS

        I guess it is what it is. I would just assume paper drilling would normally be done on a gang drill. Don’t see many paper products with only one hole. Regardless, it’s cool and a nice repurposing.

      • Ted S.

        Are gang drills for the Bloods or the Crips?

  5. kinnath

    I was watching a woodworking video. The guy said to figure out how many clamps you think you need; buy three times that many clamps; then keep buying more clamps.

    • MikeS

      Right?! Ha-ha. It’s telling that a common DIY item in woodworking shops is clamp storage.

      • MikeS
      • kinnath

        Some place had a bin of 9-inch spring clamps on sale for a buck or something. I took all of them (about 30).

      • MikeS

        That’s one of those sales where you can’t afford to not buy them.

      • kinnath

        Yup. They’re shitty, cheap clamps. But I got a lot of them. And they work just fine.

      • rhywun

        there it is

      • Grummun

        That dude is clearly shilling for Big Clamp.

    • pistoffnick the refusnik

      …figure out how many clamps you think you need; buy three times that many clamps; then keep buying more clamps.

      Similar to pistoffnick’s rule of estimating time to complete a test: how long do you think it should take? Multiply that by 3. And add 2 hours.

      • MikeS

        *throws clamps shade

  6. pistoffnick the refusnik

    What comes before Part B?


    Part-tay! A whole lot of prep and double checking to make sure you have your shit in place (“mise en place” in the culinary world) and everything is ready to go. Epoxy is an unforgiving bitch – especially when it kicks.

    Nice write-up. I can’t wait to see the finished product.

    • rhywun

      “mise en place”

      I forgot to mise en place my parmesan cheese tonight and found it sprouting mold. Luckily I had a fresh brick of cheddar and the sauce came out pretty damn tasty with it.

      • pistoffnick the refusnik

        Grilled Garlic and Rosemary lamb roast with a side salad here. The house smells lovely.

  7. Yusef drives a Kia

    Impressive work, thanks for showing us.

    • rhywun

      That pic with all the clamps, it looks like he has an air hanger to work in. ?

      • rhywun

        “hangar”, even

      • Grummun

        “That space that you planned for your wood shop doesn’t look very big. Do you want to make it bigger?”

        One of many reasons I love my wife.

      • Lackadaisical

        That’s a keeper.

      • rhywun

        ?

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m going to guess Mrs G has some high quality wood pieces she’s fond of and wants more.

  8. Fourscore

    Heckuva job, Mr G. It’s guys like you and a number of other Glibs that really irritate me with your skills/expertise.

    If you ever need someone to stir up Portland in a wheel barrow I might know that guy. Good to see there are a lot of smart and skilled people left in the world, that take pride in their work.

  9. Lackadaisical

    “When the desk is installed, the back rails are screwed to the wall studs, so I was not worried about them carrying the load. I tried to do some internet research on the expected load capacity of my front rails, but got confused. So, when in doubt, over-engineer. ”

    You should have reached out.

    Looking promising. Jealous of your wood hookup.

    • rhywun

      I haven’t had a wood hookup in a while. ?

  10. mikey

    I worked a summer general maintenance at a high school. They had a paper drill like that for binding stuff too thick for std hole punching. I think the square shield around the drill was to keep the spinning drill from chewing up the paper. 2.5 inches is a lot of paper to work with.

    Guessing SF is working on this right now..
    https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1511410171364454408?s=20&t=B-8VcU0nA1O-so_ApQMZRw

  11. Timeloose

    Do you use a just the hand sketch, CAD, or some other methods to keep the dimensions correct?

    • Grummun

      I used SketchUp to draw some plans, but there was a lot of winging it on this project. The dimension that really matters is the finished height of the desktop, and I took pains to make sure that came out right. But I didn’t, for example, work the legs down to “even” dimensions. I stopped when they were all the same size and clean on four sides. I measured a lot, and made notes to remember any important calculations.

    • creech

      But oh those Wildwood nights.

  12. The Hyperbole

    So, when in doubt, over-engineer.

    No shit. I’m not crunching any numbers but I’m pretty sure Tres would be able to entertain a few of his ladies on that thing when your done. Think about that every time you sit down at your new desk.

    • Tundra

      It’s unreal.

      Reminds me of a workbench my grandpa built for my dad. He used to joke that if a tornado came through, the house and garage would be gone, but the workbench would be sitting there in the middle of the destruction, untouched.

      Awesome so far, Grummun!

    • Brochettaward

      So, when in doubt

      You people have things in life all wrong.

      When in doubt, First.

      • The Hyperbole

        I’ve been firsting all day long and quite frankly it’s not all that it’s cracked up to be. kind meh actually. Not really sure what the big deal is.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I gather that you’re supposed to touch yourself while you do it.

      • Chafed

        That’s about 50 years past his cutoff.

      • Brochettaward

        You are a Browns fan so you have horrible taste on top of seemingly enjoying being the absolute worst. You wouldn’t know a First even if I possessed your body and did it for you. You’re like some kid who rubbed one off in between the couch cushions and then thinks he knows what sex with a woman is like.

    • MikeS

      Back in my younger days I “designed” a stand at work for my 20 gallon aquarium. I showed it to my boss and asked if he thought it would hold up my aquarium. He said, “Yeah, it’ll hold your aquarium and a car.”

    • Gustave Lytton

      A certain Queen song came on the radio and I heard Tres singing, not Freddy.

  13. Brochettaward

    Everyone knows who I am and what I’m here to do.

    Get in line. Behind me. I’ll lead the way.

    • MikeS

      OK. I’ll follow you. But I’m gonna need more than 20 bucks this time.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m going to First, and you are going to pay for it. That’s how this works.

      • Chafed

        If you want a reach around then you are going to pay for it.

      • Brochettaward

        Either of you would be honored if I allowed you to touch my penis, and you know it.

      • Hyperion

        Join a gay penis cult forum, Broketard, this is not really the optimal place for you. Best of luck.

      • MikeS

        @ Gustave

        #metoo X 2

  14. creech

    Anyone know about this guy Orban who was re-elected in Hungary? Supposedly he is an illiberal authoritarian. Of course, that’s according to the same folks who are about to confirm a Justice of the Supreme Court who doesn’t believe individuals have natural rights.

    • Hyperion

      All I know if the advocates of ‘democratic socialism’ hate him, he’s gotta be doing something right.

    • Chafed

      He is a bit of an asshole. That doesn’t mean his critics are better than him.

      • Hyperion

        In today’s environment, if I were a politician, I’d consider being an asshole a badge of honor, like what choice is there? Am I just going to be nice and tell you that you’re not a fucking idiot for believing there are 23 genders?

      • Chafed

        No, just for telling Ukrainians to go fuck themselves.

      • Hyperion

        I didn’t tell Ukranians to go fuck themselves. I said fuck Ukraine because I’m not willing to go to war to support the Biden’s corruption. BIG fucking difference.

  15. Hyperion

    ROFLMAO

    This could get real interesting…

    • Chafed

      The CEO has got to be pissed.

      • Hyperion

        I only know it’s not Jack any more. I’m not sure if anyone else noticed this, but for a month or so, that Mark Dice dude was posting on Twitter telling Jack to step down, you asshole, and nothing.happened to him, not even a reply, and next thing aI know, he does it. Does Dice have some pedo orgy clips of Jack? WTF?

      • slumbrew

        The CEO owns about 0.06% of the company. He’s an employee and should watch his ass.

      • Hyperion

        Exactly this

    • KSuellington

      It would get even more interesting if Elon decided to send out some tweets encouraging those who are free speech advocates to throw down for enough shares to get shareholder voting rights.

      • Hyperion

        I’m pretty sure he’s going to get what he wants, he seems to be pretty good at it. I’m not sure who else has the sort of money to spend, or exactly how much it would be?, but he’s aleady the majority shareholder.

      • KSuellington

        If you own some shares of the stock you get voting rights for some corporate decisions. Musk has enough fans that if he started suggesting that they might want to buy some shares and vote for his proposals it could give him even more leverage than he just bought.

      • Hyperion

        “The rise comes hot on the heels of Twitter’s best day of trading since its IPO in 2013, with shares surging over 27% on Monday.”

        That’s what he did instantly for them by joining the board. I’ll just say again, he’ll get whatever he wants.

      • KSuellington

        I certainly hope he does in this case. He is far preferable to the woke shitheels who presently run that place.

      • Hyperion

        Yeah, I hope so too, that this is great news, and that the wokeness is finally facing a serious challenge.

  16. rhywun

    “The rise of the heterosexual queer” because sure, why not?

    Heh. Funny and interesting post, and with a hilarious SNL skit (!) that I did not know existed.

    The overall point about “collecting identities” is spot-on.

    • Hyperion

      I haven’t even clicked it, but thanks for reminding me that I can use my new status of hetero queer. *Identity change, cha-ching!*

    • slumbrew

      Didn’t we already have metrosexuals?

      • Hyperion

        There’s not a checkbox for that. Tomorrow I’m telling my cliensts we need to make a ‘Hetero Queer’ checkbox. Rainbow checkbox attribute applied.

      • rhywun

        The ‘queer’ part tells you it’s all about politics.

      • Hyperion

        We both remember when ‘queer’ was derogatory?

      • R C Dean

        Was?

      • UnCivilServant

        I recall when it meant “a bit odd” and didn’t describe the nightmare creatures now roaming the earth wearing it as a skinsuit.

      • R C Dean

        I know. There was a time when it was a slur for gay, then a time when it wasn’t a slur.

        And now its been co-opted by the mentally ill totalitarians as a self-descriptor, so it’s derogatory (and rightfully so).

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      “the queer critique of sexual normativity is both bound to the history of specific identities and committed to the destabilization of sexual identities—including those that have become hegemonic”

      I’d rather be an obsequious purple clairvoyant.

      • Gender Traitor

        As long as you’re pompous, obese, and eat cactus.

  17. slumbrew

    David Burge
    @iowahawkblog 8h

    If you had $100 billion, what media property would you buy?

    Personally I’d have to say Juggs

    He’s a treasure.

    • Hyperion

      Well, you can’t not like a guy who loves titties, amirite?

    • KSuellington

      Frigging hilarious. I’d say for a billion you could get them to throw in Black Tail as well.

      • slumbrew

        Throw in Swank or no deal.

      • KSuellington

        Swank, Black Tail, and Juggs. Next thing you’ll be wanting Oui.

      • slumbrew

        Meh, you can keep that soft-core rag.

        Throw in Hawk and we’ve got a deal.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Hey, Oui was the cultured choice.

      • KSuellington

        Maybe Cheri.

      • Tres Cool

        Al Goldstein was more patriotic than Larry Flynt.

        Screw FTW

      • Tres Cool

        The hero we need.

        “According to Will Sloan, “Goldstein was the first journalist to seriously review porn films. Had he not written a rave review of a low-budget film called Deep Throat (“I was never so moved by any theatrical performance since stuttering through my own bar mitzvah”), it would never have become a hit at New York’s World Theater, would never have been targeted by the vice squad, would never have spawned a First Amendment cause célèbre, and might not have led to the modern porn industry.”

    • Chafed

      I guess we know Q’s true identity.

    • dbleagle

      Stay for the girls shooting guns, kinda like the “1812 Overture” but not crew served.

  18. Gustave Lytton

    Omg, Netflix is showing child abuse! Old Enough is now streaming. English reviews seem to focus on cute and so on, not society here is scared of fucking shadows to where 26 year olds are barely adults, if that. Hey shitheads, that’s a lot closer to how things used to be and should be. Expect children to grow up and act a certain way and they will. They don’t need to be helicoptered every waking minute.

    Saw at a restaurant today, yet another child standing on his seat and acting like a monkey while eating. Adult just sat there, interacting as if that was normal and acceptable behavior. Unbelievable.

  19. UnCivilServant

    Morning.

    I don’t want to go into the office, but I kinda have to.

  20. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam

    I went in an hour early….home an hour early.

    whats goody

  21. Tres Cool

    Beer at 0530h just seems a touch more refreshing.

  22. Gender Traitor

    Good morning, homey & U!

    Another bossless day at the office, though mine may be back from the conference and WFH by afternoon. I might actually have time to sit through the recorded webinars he wanted me to take for training…except someone seems to have signed me up for the wrong ones. They’re certainly not the titles I’d asked for.

    Darn the luck.

    • Tres Cool

      Mind the fog on your drive in to work. Its pretty soupy out there.

      • Gender Traitor

        ??

      • Tres Cool

        I’m surprised out local news doesn’t have a headline “Dense Fog Advisory: What We Know Now”

      • UnCivilServant

        They’re not saying it’s climate change, but…

      • UnCivilServant

        I didn’t see any fog, visibility was too low.

        (There was no fog up here, but I had to)

      • Gender Traitor

        ::lowers glasses on nose to peer sternly at U over them::

      • UnCivilServant

        That was supposed to be a cheesy grin, but the wordpress translation isn’t cheesy enough.

      • Gender Traitor

        Mmmmmmm……cheese! ?

      • UnCivilServant

        You know, I haven’t made mac and cheese since I visited you. Due to doctor-recommended dietary adjustments, I’d need to reformulate.

      • Sean

        I got some ghost pepper cheese curds on Monday.

        Yum.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nice timing – what low-carb option texture matches the pasta you end up with in baked mac and cheese? It can’t have too strong a flavor so that the cheese stays the star.

    • Festus

      Hey GT, Mornin! That “Paper Moon” video that you posted was outstanding. I love that swinging jazz! Thanks so much.

  23. Tres Cool

    From the local headlines: “Local WWII Veteran turns 99 today; VFW, law enforcement to host car parade”

    While factually accurate, I suppose it’s important to announce the type of parade.

    • UnCivilServant

      “Humans not welcome.”

      • Tres Cool

        No mention of clowns.

        Why don’t cannibals eat clowns? Because they taste funny.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Hold my beer….

    • Festus

      Yowza. The reporters aren’t even a “Michigan 5”. They have faces built for Radio. I’ll take my leggy Fox-Babes. That Italian girl that guests on Gutfeld’s show really stirs my pot…

      • Tres Cool

        That is a rough bunch.

    • slumbrew

      I could swear I heard a horn playing Dixie when I watched that.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Traffic comes?

      Impressive

      • Festus

        Which end?

      • Tres Cool

        I agree.
        Based on the article, and to comment about the condom-covered cucumber, he seems to be into insertion.

    • R C Dean

      WTF is a bundle wand?

      Note: question is rhetorical. I don’t really want to know.

      • R C Dean

        Stupid autocorrect. Buddle wand.

      • Tres Cool

        I have no idea either. And a cursory search only gave me results for “bubble wand”. So perhaps a typo ?

      • Sean

        in context, maybe a buttle wand?

      • Sean

        I have the same question.

    • Ghostpatzer

      “cylindrical shaped” objects, including a traffic cone”

      Narrator: A cone is not cylindrical.

  24. Yusef drives a Kia

    Covfefe everybody! I have been very ill of late, and have slept away most of the last week. I finally get to see my Dr. on Friday. Until then it’s walk sloooow, and make no sudden moves.
    /Ow! My Balls!

    • Tres Cool

      Balls? Ill pray its not the dreaded testicular torsion.

      /turn your head and cough

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I knew a guy….

        We called him Captain Onenut afterwards.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Ouch indeed. Got kicked?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I hope it’s the rare UTI, I got it once and it ain’t no fun, here’s hopin”

      • Ghostpatzer

        UTI. I got one of those once. About a week after I spent an evening with a young lady of questionable morals.

      • Tres Cool

        Call it a certain “zest for living”.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I wish I could blame it on a women, but we only carry Tres size up hea’ and I’m a fragile flower, they would break me in 2.

    • Festus

      Sorry, Friend (and you are my friend). I have an appointment next week but Judi is coming with me this time to ensure that I don’t merely agree to everything so that I can get the hell away. Hope that you feel better.

  25. Ghostpatzer

    Mornin’ all. I too built a desk over the weekend. Sort of – IKEA special. That is the extent of my carpentry skills. I am in awe of folks who can build things like Grumman did. Fatherless city folk have little opportunity to learn cool stuff.

    • Tres Cool

      Yeah, Im not bad with things electrical, plumbable, or automotive. But give me a 2 x4 and a saw, and Ill fuck it up.
      Take heart in knowing that the desk, while no doubt gorgeous, likely cost $2K in materials and labor when its done.

    • Festus

      I was under the impression that the “jets” and the “Sharks” were involved in an intense dance battle over the lucrative trade in hub-caps. Huh.

      • Ghostpatzer

        Heh. Different kind of cool stuff. You learned how to fight or how to run. I turned out to be a pretty fair sprinter.

      • Festus

        We were more Letterkenny but less scripted, plus the girls were not nearly so hot.

    • Festus

      Well, that’s not very Cricket of him.

      • Tres Cool

        whaddup Tinkerbelle

      • Festus

        Touche!

    • Tres Cool

      McEnroe did it better.

      • Ghostpatzer

        You have got to be kidding!

  26. Fourscore

    Morning GT, UCS, Tres, Sean and all the other early risers,

    Looking out the window at a fresh 3 inches of wet snow, after a couple yesterday that melted.

    Finally found someone that sounded interested in repairing the chimney that fell down from the snow. They’ll come on Friday and make an estimate but can’t start work ’til it dries out a bit, even if they decide to do the job.

    Take this Climate Change/Global Warming and shove it. Still though, looking around at the rest of the world, the snow is the least of the problems.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Mornin’, 4×20. It must be spring here, saw the first bees this week and forsythias are in bloom, also flowering cherries. Did you get a nice fat check from the insurance company?

      • Fourscore

        The insurance company was very gracious and maybe I’m underestimating what things cost. OTOH, the repairs haven’t been done so I may have a rude awakening.

        Just want things fixed so I can go back to complaining about something else.

    • Fourscore

      Oh, you kids and this new music. Those guys with the long hair are a flash in the band, they’ll never make it.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    I have a door laid across a pair of sawhorses.

    • Sean

      These euphemisms…

    • Not Adahn

      Door resting on a pair of filing cabinets is more practical.

      • UnCivilServant

        Who has random filing cabinets lying around?

    • Fourscore

      It’s always about the money, isn’t it?

      It’s like when kids first learn about democracy they want a seat at the table discussing how best to use the family paycheck

      • UnCivilServant

        “The ‘Family’ paycheck is $0. Here’s your share.” *opens empty hand*

  28. Festus

    Anyone here watched the pathetic celebration of the anniversary of the ACA? Doddering Joe looked like the second place finisher for the May Queen Pageant. He even grasped that asshole’s shoulder and Obama ignored him. God I loathe him. Then he walks out of the room with Kamala leaving Joe behind. Sinking ship. We’ve all known that feeling. You’re the plus one at a dinner party and unfamiliar with the people present and their customs. Happens to the best of us. Not supposed to happen to the POTUS. They just laid their cards on the green felt.

    • UnCivilServant

      The event was not to celebrate the 12-year anniversary of something, it was to signal from the machine that Joe is about to go.

      • Festus

        I still felt bad for Biden. I’m a libertarian but not one of those autistic ones. That’s the Leader of the Free World being treated like “Ducky”. That ain’t good. Everyone on earth knows that he is a Muppet. Not good at all.

      • Sean

        Nope. Fuck that guy.