Monday Morning Links

by | May 9, 2022 | Daily Links | 364 comments

Max! Max! Max!

An aside: I saw The Who 7 years ago or so. They (yeah, I know its not all the original guys) were active, clear-headed, and into the show. Last night was something else. The only saving grace was that the little ones had a good time and thought it was amazing. How little they know about what a great show those guys used to put on. Oh well, can’t win em all.

All the hockey series that were played yesterday were 2-2 after the games. Gee, imagine that. A long shot broke the bank at the Kentucky Derby. Max won in Miami to close the gap on Leclerc and Ferrari. But they need to rearrange that track. Or move it somewhere else. Street courses aren’t made for cars that size. And Man City put a nail in the coffin of Liverpool’s chances at the EPL. With some help from Spuds, obviously. And that’s it for sports, friends.

We’re sending weapons to the wrong place. We should be sending them to these unlucky bastards. (I know, we shouldn’t be sending them to anybody. You get my point.)

Aw, rats!

Such culture! So vibrant! Y’all can keep that shithole. I’m staying where there’s green grass and the rodents have antlers.

Excellent! Excellent! (You have to imagine Mr. Burns doing the thing with his hands to get the gist.) Hopefully this trend continues. The market needs a correction.

Sounds like Durham needs to reevaluate the charges here. The conspiracy was obvious from the start. SO why didn’t he charge Sussmann with it?

Literally nothing like this is happening.

Hey lady, nobody gives a fuck about your strawman. So go beat it to death somewhere else.

I hope they get to the bottom of this. No matter what the cause is.

Christ, what an asshole. Sounds like he’s paralyzed from the neck up as well.

Good for him. When it’s all said and done, he won’t want to be associated with this piece of shit project anyway.

Here’s a great song. He was so good. So here’s another one for you. That one gets a lot less play but its a great song. Enjoy them both.

And enjoy this lovely Monday, dear friends.

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  1. rhywun

    With some help from Spuds, obviously.

    Assholes. Now I dislike them even more.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      The same team that also beat City twice this year?

      • rhywun

        Feh, I’m not paying that much attention any more.

      • robc

        Everton now at a mere 10% change of relegation according to 538.com.

        They leapfrogged both Burney and Leeds and have a game in hand vs both.

        Back in January, I predicted Leeds as the final team to be relegated, but then they went on a run and looked to be safe. Now they are the leading contender.

        538 says 50% for Leeds, 40% for Burnley.

      • rhywun

        I was looking forward to snickering at Everton.

        I’d rather Leeds stayed up.

        A shit season, all in all.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Can Everton beat Arsenal please?

      • robc

        Hopefully they will be up 4 on Leeds going into the last day and it won’t matter.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        City also have 3/4 of their defense out for the last 3 games with Wolves, West Ham, and Villa left. They could still trip up.

        However, the idea of Liverpool winning 4 fucking trophies is nauseating and I hope City do hold on.

      • robc

        I am hoping Liverpool ends up with only 1.

      • robc

        “Congrats, you won the League Cup!”

  2. Tonio

    “A visitor in Maui sued a resort after it recommended he visit Makena State Park…”

    Probably because it’s easier to sue the resort, and hope their insurance company settles, than it is to sue the government. Much like the guy who dropped his jeep off for service and got sued because of the negligence of the auto dealer when one of their mechanics was killed.

    • sloopyinca

      It would be nice if they opted to take person Al responsibility for their actions and not sue anybody.

      • db

        Looks like your phone decided to take person AI responsibility for trying to tell us all something.

      • sloopyinca

        It’s becoming sentient.

      • db

        At least it gave us a warning.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      I’ve been to that beach. I experienced the waves myself but got lucky that it wasn’t too bad. Just a sore back. There are warning signs all over the place. It was my own damn fault for not taking them as seriously as I should.

  3. Not Adahn

    Now I must genetically engineer rats with antlers.

      • Not Adahn

        Deer are way bigger than rats. Bigger than nutria even. And deer don’t have those adorable little hand-paws.

      • UnCivilServant

        The Pudu is a true cervine smaller than a Nutria. It has antlers, but no hand paws.

      • UnCivilServant

        *correction, not quite smaller. Same size range.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Dose them with Spanish Fly? That should make the rats horny

  4. Certified Public Asshat

    ‘Nobody likes abortion, even when safe and legal,’

    That begs a few questions.

    • Festus

      Some of those fo;lx just live to kill fetuses.

      • Festus

        Mind you, I remain agnostic regarding that debate but the crazy is simmering to the surface.

      • SDF-7

        Sheesh… is fo;lx their new nomenclature now? 😉

        “I’m a twin-spirit, Martian Dragonoid bipolar fo;lx you bigot!

        Now… did you want to order a muffin with your latte?”

      • Pope Jimbo

        I think the crazies are going to be the undoing of abortion rights.

        They aren’t trotting out some true edge cases to “prove” that abortions are always needed. Nope the crazies are out and out acting like there is nothing more noble than having an abortion. And abortions in the 8th month are the sweetest.

        This is just going to alienate the large amount of people who would support abortions in the first trimester, but are uncomfortable with abortions later. They will not want to be lumped in with the nuts.

      • WTF

        The pro-abortionists are terrified at the thought of having to make their case to the voting public.

      • Chafed

        Exactly right Jimbo.

    • SDF-7

      Nikki does… except that there’s not enough of it, as I recall.

      • Festus

        Heh! Try handing her a baby. We all know what happens next. (dashes it’s head on the pavement)

  5. UnCivilServant

    Anyone know what happened to the legislation to end the clock switching? Or is that only an issue around when we have to change the clocks?

    • Rat on a train

      It went to the cooling saucer in the House.

    • MikeS

      I don’t know, but it’s about time.

      • Rat on a train

        They tried to schedule a debate on the proposal but couldn’t agree on a time.

      • SDF-7

        Slow Clap.

      • whiz

        I think they moved the meeting back an hour and everybody missed it.

  6. Not Adahn

    In 2018, costumer Youngjoo Hwang filed a lawsuit against Savage claiming that he “berated her, struck her arm and behaved aggressively toward female employees” while working on Fox comedy The Grinder in 2015, according to the Associated Press. In a statement, Savage called Hwang’s claims “absolutely untrue,” while Fox said it “found no evidence of wrongdoing” after conducting an investigation.

    Listen toots, do you want to be treated equally to a man or not?

    • Not Adahn

      In 1993, Savage, then 16, and his Wonder Years co-star Jason Hervey were accused of sexual harassment in a lawsuit filed by the show’s former costume designer.

      16 year old boy makes jokes with woman measuring his inseam? Well, I never!

      • Tulip

        Or, he’s an entitled asshole and has been for many years.

      • Not Adahn

        Entirely possible. Child stars are (supposedly) like that. I’ve personally never met one.

      • Tulip

        So much easier, of course, to assume all the women are lying or exaggerating. Because shit like that never happens in Hollywood.

      • Not Adahn

        Well, the fact that his (women) costars are also saying it didn’t happen and are “angry” that a settlement offer was made plays into it too. #belivesomewomen.

        Lawsuit lottery isn’t just played by injury victims, you know.

      • Not Adahn

        And considering that the “exaggerations” are a matter of record (see the stats on women “sexually assaulted” in college), the assumption that any particular accusation has been exaggerated for maximum rhetorical effectiveness is also reasonable (e.g. Kavanaugh’s gang-rape club.)

      • Tulip

        Poor, poor Fred Savage. Targeted for decades.

      • Not Adahn

        I don’t know if Fred Savage has been deliberately targeted, or if he’s a ravenous predator a la Weinstein, or if he’s the kind of guy that attracts abusers or if he’s just unlucky, or if his agent gets him jobs with toxic production companies or…

        But yes, accusations get exaggerated tremendously, and when they’re couched in language such as “behaved aggressively” which is code for “raised his voice” or even “got angry” (ask me how I know) and that OF COURSE being exposed to such “aggression” is worth of at least a six figure payout and imprisonment of the aggressor, then I tend to disregard the rest of the accusation. Because if Savage had done anything actually aggressive it would have been reported as “assault” or “violence” because of the aforementioned dysphemism treadmill.

      • Not Adahn

        assume all the women

        When you have to put words in other people mouths to make them say what you want them to say, maybe you should wonder why you want them to be saying it?

      • Tulip

        Clearly, I was referring to all women ever, not responding to you highlighting the women today (his accusers in his firing), the 2018 accusations, and the 1993 accusations.

      • Mojeaux

        I think it’s clear from context that Tulip was saying “all the women who had accused Fred Savage of something.”

        Her point, I believe, is that the claims may have some weight to them and they’re just being hand-waved away without a second look.

      • Not Adahn

        So all the women in the article who were accusing him in the article, not all the women in the article. And of course, “all” not “both.”

        And it explicitly says that both allegations were in fact investigated, not “waved away without a second look.”

  7. Fourscore

    Great Intro picture, Sloop.

    Looks like reality is catching up to the market. It’s something we’ve known for a long time but didn’t want to see the downturn. Things are not honky-dory out in real life. Steve Forbes, Larry Kudlow and others are urging the government to get out of the way.

    The farmers can’t figure out what to do, oil producers as well. We’re in for a long and new to many downturn.

    Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst. Don’t sell your guns…

  8. Festus

    Tom was hit and miss but when he was good he was very good! The whole world seems filled with crazy people…

  9. rhywun

    China… SMDH. They are so fucking screwed with that madman in charge.

    • db

      There is approximately a 100% chance that Xi is using COVID as a cover to suppress and/or eliminate any opposition. Whether this means that he is making a pre-emptive move to consolidate his power even further, or that there exists a significant resistance to his rule that he is trying to quash is not shown in my crystal ball.

      • kbolino

        The real question then becomes, not what elements challenge Xi’s rule, but what elements support it? The two most important cities for electronics manufacturing being on full lockdown will have crippling economic effects, both domestically and abroad. How much does Xi’s hold on power depend on delivering the bacon to the growing Chinese bourgeoisie?

      • db

        He’s playing a very dangerous game, crippling his (China’s) most profitable export industries like this. Is he really so ignorant as to believe he can get away with it without damaging his economy permanently and suffering a massive backlash? Or does he think the crackdown will pre-empt the backlash?

      • Chafed

        He really is that ignorant.

      • Tundra

        Does this somehow play into his plans for Taiwan?

  10. juris imprudent

    Ironic I should have this link this morning in context of you saying “living the American dream”. I feel dumbly fortunate, that my son got through school before this rot came to full bloom and I can feel somewhat hopeful that it will have run its course by the time he has his own kids to worry about. For those of you square in the middle of it (with kids soon to face higher education) – if there is someone I can kill for you, I’ll take it under consideration.

    • UnCivilServant

      The local school board election is coming up. There are three open seats… and two candidates on the ballot. They will actually pretend to go through the write-in names looking for who to give the third seat to.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      My son is not coping well. He’s Aspergers and conservative by nature. He’s afraid to take any steps forward because he’s convinced that the authorities will pull the rug out from under him and change the rules (like going for vaccine mandates again or masking). I can’t really blame him.

      • Tonio

        So, a future Glibertarian? You’ve done well.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I think the future is bright for him. If he can learn independently and spin up his own thing online, he won’t need to waste his time in college.

    • Rat on a train

      There is a reason I tell my wife to list the kids as Pacific Islander.

    • kbolino

      This raises the question, what is truly prosocial and antisocial?

      This seems to me a direct result of “anti-bullying” and “zero-tolerance” initiatives, which have had the practical effect of shifting the locus of childhood social development and conflict resolution from parents and other children to third-party neurotic adults. The nominal justification is that bullying and conflict are “antisocial”, but in practice they seem to have had a positive effect on the average child’s emotional well-being.

      Which leaves me wondering, perhaps, if prosocial either doesn’t mean what others think it does, or if socialization itself is part of the problem.

      • Lackadaisical

        If you’re being socialized by the wrong adults and children, then yes, that would be a problem.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        The nominal justification is that bullying and conflict are “antisocial”, but in practice they seem to have had a positive effect on the average child’s emotional well-being.

        The zero tolerance policies are a big problem. Fist fights are a safety valve for boys if bullying gets too far. You duke it out, shake hands, and it’s done. By the time I was in high school, meeting on the football field after school was a thing long past. The kids from the ghettos fought regularly in school and received suspensions/expulsions left and right. We waited until after the bell range and then went off school grounds. I was in two myself to settle things out. Shook hands afterwards, all good. It wasn’t uncommon to have a hundred or even two hundred kids gathered in an empty field or deep in a park to watch.

        Zero tolerance anti-bully initiatives are basically designed to remove that safety valve and create a hellish environment where the victims can never fight back. If the frequency of true school shootings has actually increased, I would suspect antibullying initiatives are the greatest factor behind the rise.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The nominal justification is that bullying and conflict are “antisocial”, but in practice they seem to have had a positive effect on the average child’s emotional well-being.

        I wouldn’t go so far. It’s also possible that they have less of a negative effect than zero-tolerance. There are, of course, many alternatives to Lord of the Flies and Lord of the Flies 2: Tattle to the Teacher Boogaloo.

      • EvilSheldon

        That is a good example of what I mean.

        Yes, we shouldn’t let children be tortured by the more psychopathic among them. But the social engineers turn it up to eleven, and decree that kids calling each other mean names is a major social offense that must be met with punishment and corrective intervention. It’s like the sound guy thinking that if the output sounds good at +3dB, it’ll sound great at +15dB…

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        My daughter’s elementary school went on and on and on about “bucket-filling” and “bucket-dipping”

        https://www.myedresource.com/2017/06/22/how-to-deal-with-bucket-dipping/

        The first time my kids mentioned that someone was a bucket-dipper I had to ask what that meant.

        “Oh, so she’s a bully.”

        “They don’t use that word dad.”

        “Too bad. I do”

        After years of the school beating that drum (and kindness), most of the kids have self-segregated into the tattlers and those who mock the entire concept.

      • WTF

        When I was in school back in the 70s, a scrap was just a scrap, no big deal, you got suspended for a day or two. And snitches got stitches. I had a few brawls in High School, and on each incidence we were back to being friends the next day.

      • db

        In high school, I got into a fight with a bully who outweighed me by more than 50% who had been antagonizing me. I went completely sickhouse on the guy but got my ass handed to me (not only did he outweigh me but he was on the wrestling team).

        In the space of a day I went from being some nerd who transfered from the Catholic elementary school that you could pick on with impunity to being fearless and someone you don’t fuck with. It only cost my parents a couple thousand dollars in dental repairs.

        I wish it hadn’t happened the way it did, but it was a growing experience, and taught me a lot about managing my temper.

      • Not Adahn

        A shadout attended your daughter’s elementary school? How many people did she disembowel.

      • kbolino

        I contend that the latter is a good deal worse than the former, partly because Lord of the Flies itself is not realistic (e.g. these Tongan boys did not descend into murderous anarchy when shipwrecked), partly because bullying encompasses a lot more shaming than straight “kick the dog” moments, and partly because “the woke”/leftists/progressives always, in their utopian madness, end up creating what they claim to oppose, but also make it worse than whatever came before.

      • kbolino

        Link was meant to end at the parenthesis

        *EDIT FAIRY DUN TRY HALPIN’*

      • kbolino

        Grazie mille oh tooth decayed one

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I agree. That said, I don’t think that the Gen X default of “just beat the shit out of each other and then shake hands” is some shining beacon of virtue.

      • kbolino

        Yes. I don’t think any social attitude in the modern era should be looked to as a strong source of moral authority or healthy outcomes. We have been under a continuous process of social re-engineering since about the middle of the 19th century, and the written-word biased view of history leaves out most contrary accounts and evidence of alternatives.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yup. To your point, the elephant in the room is the fact that (since the mid-to-late 19th century), we lock the kids in a schoolroom for 7-8 hours a day. Is it any wonder that they struggle with identity and mature social interaction after being in that environment day after day for a decade or two?

      • slumbrew

        Thanks for saving me the trouble re: Lord of The Flies.

        I think of the real story along with the fact that in disasters people _don’t_ scream and run around uncontrollably with some regularity (think about people’s reactions on 9/11); evidences points to us being more altruistic and level-headed that fiction would have you believe.

        Although things like the Hillsborough Disaster provide evidence in the other direction.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        in disasters

        I think this is the most important part. When unwatched, people act differently in crisis versus in normal times. It seems that the crisis needs to personally impact them to change their behavior.

      • juris imprudent

        I always had the impression that Lord of the Flies was a much a commentary on English schooling as anything else.

      • EvilSheldon

        I think probably a little of each.

        I can go on for a while on this subject, but I think that the core problem is that the social engineers in American society just aren’t very good at engineering.

        The people who think that emotional resiliency and healthy coping skills can be developed without some amount of discomfort are simply deranged.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The people who think that emotional resiliency and healthy coping skills can be developed without some amount of discomfort are simply deranged.

        Ding ding ding!

        They assume that you can teach what is learned by experience. IMO, the self-esteem movement is at the core of a lot of this BS. The idea that you can teach away insecurity is absurd.

      • kbolino

        The idea that you can teach away insecurity is absurd.

        In fact, it seems to have had the opposite effect, and caused an explosion of neurosis and insecurity.

      • juris imprudent

        Which is a boon to the “helping” profession!

      • kbolino

        The “virtuous” cycle of social work: identify a social ill, create a niche to “treat” it, deny/ignore the practical causes and instead invent and reify an explanatory theoretical framework, this naturally increases the incidence of the social ill as well as turning it from one problem into a nexus of problems, which therefore justifies yet more social workers. Lather, rinse, repeat, and before too long, your city government is spending half its budget on these people’s salaries and pensions.

      • invisible finger

        Most of the problem is that teachers and teacher-wannabes think their job is social engineering and not simply teaching the three R’s (for young ‘uns) or their specific subject (for adolescents).

        The rest of the problem is that there are so many broken homes that the child isn’t getting taught how to behave. Even when the divorced parents are civil to each other, the child still knows they can play one off of the other as the parents compete for the child’s attention/affection. The child learns this behavior as “normal” and brings it to all their social interactions – with school simply reinforcing the behavior in part because the manipulative little bastards have aged to the point where they are now the teachers bringing their toxic behavior to the next generation.

        If I were a parent of a grade-schooler today, I’d insist on knowing the mental health status of his teacher. If I can’t be informed whether or not the teacher is taking anti-depressants, I would have to assume the teacher is on them. Of course, a parent taking the same meds wouldn’t even think to ask the question.

      • kbolino

        Most of the problem is that teachers and teacher-wannabes think their job is social engineering and not simply teaching the three R’s (for young ‘uns) or their specific subject (for adolescents).

        And they’re not wrong.

        That is their job. That is what every public education proponent from Horace Mann to John Dewey explicitly intended for them to be. Whether the goal be to Protestantize the Catholics, assimilate the immigrants (to the elite-preferred culture), cure the “ignorance” of the masses, prepare citizens to be effective factory workers, prepare the children of segregationists to champion “civil rights”, etc., the primary goal of public education has always been social engineering.

        The three-Rs education is a false front. It is the motte to which the media and academy retreat when called out. They would much rather frolic in the bailey where they talk rather openly about the need to impose change upon the population.

  11. db

    Frank Herbert wrote it in 1977, but it seems even more pertinent today.

    We are plagued by a corrupt polity which promotes unlawful and/or immoral behavior. Public interest has no practical significance in everyday behavior among the ruling factions. The real problems of our world are not being confronted by those in power. In the guise of public service, they use whatever comes to hand for personal gain. They are insane with and for power.

    –Frank Herbert, The Dosadi Experiment

    • rhywun

      That book and Whipping Star make up for anything one can say about the later Dune books… so good.

      • db

        I have been re-reading that over the last few days and wishing that he had spent more time in that universe.

      • sloopyinca

        There’s more than one Dune book?

      • Not Adahn

        Even if one doesn’t like God-Emperor, I don’t see how one would object to the first trilogy.

      • robc

        THERE ARE FOUR BOOKS!

        Oops, mixed SF universes there.

      • Not Adahn

        Honestly, I am disappointed the second trilogy didn’t get finished. It doesn’t completely make sense in its partial state — but then again, the first trilogy wouldn’t either.

    • SDF-7

      I doubt it is fundamentally different than past generations (in that this crap has likely gone on throughout time and all), except for two points in the current crop of jerks — they seem to have lost all shame (so they don’t bother even pretending anymore) and they also seem to have lost focus that the system has to at least keep running for the grift to continue. Like the idiots who bought into the whole “The post-Y2K economy is SPECIAL! Startups don’t need coherent business plans!”, they seem to be operated under the delusion that the Iron Laws don’t apply to them and they can keep looting forever.

      If it didn’t mean so much misery for the rest of us because of their stupid crap and because we’ll have to deal with it when the system collapses, I’d be eagerly anticipating their meeting the hard, hard brick wall of reality sooner rather than later.

      • db

        It would be a lot more fun to watch them get their comeuppance if it didn’t mean that I (and all the other “regular people”) will feel the worst of it, and first.

      • kbolino

        The structural difference undergirding these phenomena seems to be the replacement of accountability-based decision making with consensus-based decision making in every layer of government and business organization. Put another way, the only real crime for the “people in charge” today is to deviate from the herd. Incompetence and maliciousness, which often go hand in hand, can and will go unpunished, and may even be rewarded, so long as the oversight committees are full of people equally incompetent and malicious.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        ???

        I saw this in my engineering firm two decades ago. My boss at the time wanted total consensus on everything. He wouldn’t move forward unless he got buy-in from every member of the group. I had to tell him that the group would implement the solution he decreed even if there was disagreement, but asking for their intellectual buy-in was too much and would cause key talent to quit.

        Make a decision and live with the outcome. Sometimes it doesn’t work out.

        Now “consensus” has become so ingrained in the decision making process that you can’t distinguish between the decision makers and anyone else. Groupthink is rewarded and dissent is a threat to management.

      • db

        Yes. We get a lot of fake forced consensus where we have a big meeting where everyone is supposed to raise any concerns they have, but typically it’s just a method for our commercial folks to tell us their plan and evade our questions about how they intend to achieve their sales goals, while saying we all had a chance to object. But if you object, you look like a roadblock, and they don’t like roadblocks.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I think this is a downstream effect of having managers who are torn between so many different priorities. Because of that, the manager falls on the “them” side of the “us v. them” divide, and retention becomes an issue when the manager swings their dick around too much. It doesn’t help when the manager is too busy to get down and dirty with the issues in their department because they’re so busy putting out fires constantly being set by HR and Finance. As a result, the manager has to rubberstamp the consensus because they have neither the time nor the context to be able to make a quality decision on their own.

        We’re running into this issue with our new manager. She’s trying to assert her leadership over a team she hasn’t been a part of in 7 or 8 years. Lots of things have changed since then, and we’re used to basically self-governing at this point. After 3 years of light touch management, most of us are looking for new jobs after experiencing a month of “my way or the highway” (granted, some of us have been planning our escape for a while now). We don’t necessarily want consensus decision making, but stakeholder input prior to the decision being made is important.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s always a compromise between the two extremes. In this particular group, there was plenty of input but rarely total agreement. As a manager, your job is to make the call and move on, not tie up hours trying to convince one member of the group that they should change their opinion.

      • Swiss Servator

        Commander gets input and recommendations from the staff officers…then makes a decision and we moveon.org.

      • Pope Jimbo

        we’re used to basically self-governing at this point

        I think a lot of managers want consensus because they realize that the need for managers is much less than it used to be. There are a lot of tools that allow quite a bit of self management.

        Managers that rock the boat are way more likely to be walking the plank soon. They can get away with it as long as they are successful. As soon as they fail though, they are booted.

        On the other hand the managers who get buy-in on everything are pretty well protected. If you go after them, they have your fingerprints on everything as well.

      • kbolino

        I think you have the causality arrow pointed exactly backwards. The excessive piling on of more and more competing priorities is itself downstream of the flattened hierarchies. A hierarchy with a pointy tip at the top leaves you with no ambiguity about who makes the decisions. The singularity of mind also generally constrains the priorities to a more manageable number.

        Managers in consensus-based environments who nevertheless swing their dicks around (obviously metaphorical here) generally create more problems than they solve because, all else being equal, they don’t gain any power by doing this. You still have to obey her and a dozen other demanders besides but now she’s just become the most obnoxious of these many masters because she is laying out demands but can’t provide the commensurate insulation from other people’s demands that would justify her exercise of authority.

        Moreover, consensus-based “management” (really, it’s the absence of management) paradoxically creates a strong incentive for defection. Simple dissent is easily quashed by the weight of consensus, but “fuck it I’m out of here” can’t be effectively punished (nor can staying be that greatly rewarded) because none of these committees have real power to stop you from leaving. Thus a vicious brain-draining cycle ensues.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Interesting point! I think you’re right on the causation arrow being flipped.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I think that the trend now is for small startup companies to innovate and come up with new and good things. Some of them might try to grow to the next stage of a company and get big, but a lot of them will sell out to some Big Company.

        That company will try to add the New Thing to their portfolio and scale it up. A few of the original company will stick around and be Mucky Mucks of the new product offering (usually the least competent from the original group). The others will all leave because they are stifled by the new company.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        Can confirm.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, I could understand this phenomenon in govt – but in business it just blows my mind.

      • kbolino

        There is far more low-level collusion between business and government than is widely known. Moreover, the stock market, which is itself heavily affected by (quasi-)governmental incentives, also imposes a consensus-based structure upon publicly traded corporations. It is not a coincidence that “democracy”
        begets oligarchy.

        Yet leaving the analysis at “expected in government” is still not going far enough. There actually isn’t an extrinsically good reason to expect this of government. Every state government and the federal government has an explicitly monarchic executive structure (President/governor). And yet that structure has, nearly everywhere, been subverted.

      • juris imprudent

        The tyranny of the managerial class.

  12. SDF-7

    Can you really call a circuit made out of an oversized parking lot a “street circuit”? On a deeply personal level, I hope Leclerc and Ferrari manage to keep ahead this season. First, because Ferrari could use a championship after all these years and blowing it with Vettel too many times. Second, because Leclerc seems to be genuinely a decent enough guy (probably not — you probably have to have an unbelievable ego to compete at that level, but he’s kept it toned down at least), whereas Max seems to be trying to follow an infinite curve of arrogant asshole every year. He just exudes “smug” this year, and it has pushed me from “ambivalent” to “please lose, you twit”. Wouldn’t mind Russell and Merc surprising everyone with a bounce back in the tail of the season — but not holding my breath.

    • UnCivilServant

      Could you provide some context, it reads like I walked in on the middle of a conversation.

      • UnCivilServant

        *and no, the previous sentence in the conversation from Sloopy is still somewhere in the middle, I’m just lost.

      • SDF-7

        That was a reply to Sloopy calling the F1 Grand Prix of the United States track they set up in Miami this past weekend a “street circuit”. It was constructed out of the parking lot around the Hard Rock stadium, so I was quibbling on the “street” part. 😉 The rest is just a rant about how much I dislike the current F1 driver champion and hope his competitors have a better season.

        That help?

      • sloopyinca

        I’d have to call it a street circuit because of the wall and (lack of) runoff setup. I just don’t know what else would apply.

        It’s a shame, TBH. F1 is becoming really popular here and I’m afraid the second and third track in the US are both going to be hot garbage. We need to build a second COTA-type facility on the Florida coast. But make the track even wider and the runoffs even bigger.

      • SDF-7

        Given everyone else also calls it a street circuit — just consider it light hearted ribbing, good sir.

        I find it hard to believe Road America or somesuch couldn’t be enhanced to serve. I’d really love to see less of a “typical F1” track these days and more of a road circuit-style track.

        That’s one of the things I like about Imola, in fact. It doesn’t come across as well watching, but if you drive the track in the F1 games (or probably in Assetto Corsica or whatever else has it), you really get a feel for the quick elevation changes and blind curves. That is a thrilling track to drive, and can lead to some fun overtacks / good racing. Anything we have that’s Indy capable (not the ovals obviously, F1 on oval would just be boring and stupid… though now part of me really wants to see the drivers at least have to handle a few laps at Talledega or something) should at least be considered, I would think.

        But yeah — I don’t think Vegas is going to be great either. I suspect they paid more attention to “get this photo opportunity on this corner so we can show *this* part of the strip behind the cars here in the typical shot, and *that* part there” and want it in Vegas for the hob-nobbing opportunities more than anything.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I drive the roads in Vegas and seen the proposed course…it will be interesting.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        We need to build a second COTA-type facility on the Florida coast.

        Update Sebring?

      • sloopyinca

        It would require a massive investment, but it’s probably doable. I’d hope for more elevation change, but Sebring could definitely be a workable solution with more appeal than the thing they built around that football stadium.

      • slumbrew

        I’m afraid the second and third track in the US are both going to be hot garbage

        I share your concerns and endorse your suggestion.

      • The Last American Hero

        Also, it’s fun to say the word Monegasque.

    • KSuellington

      I wouldn’t call Max smug as much as I would call him “Dutch”, which his attitude is and I can appreciate it having had lived there. A realistic self assessment is very much typical there, and he is one of the best drivers of that type of car in the world, so he is very much matter of fact about it. I enjoyed the race yesterday, and while I agree that Imola is a better one, it didn’t produce a better race this year. It could definitely use some improvements and it will certainly get them for the coming years. And yeah, it would be great to see another dedicated track in the US, especially in Florida. But the street circuits are some of the most fun races on the calendar and I’m glad they have a few. Baku has produced some of the best F1 races of the past handful of years.

    • Festus

      Yup. That’s it. I’m cutting out on a high note! Thank you, Your Holiness!

    • Tundra

      Perfection.

      Thanks, Holiness. I needed that today.

    • MikeS

      There’s no crying in baseball!

      Very cool.

  13. Trigger Hippie

    I apologize for my drunken woe-is-me attention whoring outburst last night. Things… aren’t good right now. I’m going to back away from commenting for awhile and try to get my head right. Take care, all.

    • UnCivilServant

      We’re not going to chastize you over drunken outbursts.

      And there’s no need to run away from us. All of the offers of help were genuine.

    • MikeS

      Usually, withdrawing is the wrong thing to do. Let it out here. We’re here for you.

      • WTF

        Most likely venting to and interacting with your fellow miscreants would tend to be beneficial.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I agree with Mike!

        This place can be a wonderful support group. Surprising as it is, this group of miscreants can actually be pretty empathetic and helpful.

        You don’t have to get into details, if you don’t want. But we are all happy to tell you that we love you and want you to be happy.

      • MikeS

        I agree with Mike!

        Where’s my fainting couch?!

        ?

      • Pope Jimbo

        At the bottom of the New Lake Agassiz (that you are trying to bring back in your yard)?

      • Pope Jimbo

        We were up in Fargo this weekend visiting Altar Boy #1. The flooding didn’t look too bad, but we didn’t spend much time around the river either though.

        What we were amazed by is how nothing is blooming or turning green yet. Down around the Cities, it is just starting to green up and a few buds are showing up.

      • MikeS

        It wasn’t bad in Fargo. It got high enough to close two of the three bridges in GF, but is now receding. North of that it is still very high, though. Long stretches of I29 are like driving through a lake. And more damn rain falling today.

        Yeah, it’s been a cold, slow spring. Trees are budded out and a few look like they might started leafing out in a few days. Grass is just starting to get going. Will have to mow tomorrow or Wednesday for the first time this year.

      • Surly Knott

        Yes. Isolation doesn’t usually right heads, it typically wrongs them.

    • Sean

      My offer still stands.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I can’t man. Put myself in a bind I’m unable to get out of for the foreseeable future. The rest of the year isn’t going to be fun at all. And to be honest I’m so unstable right now I wouldn’t want to end up screwing you over when the next breakdown occurs. I do appreciate the offer though. Truly, thank you.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Come to the forums, at any rate. Don’t make us worry about you.

    • Trigger Hippie

      Thanks, guys. I’m still backing off but I do love you all(even Bro).

      • MikeS

        Please take care of yourself and please check in once in a while.

      • juris imprudent

        (even Bro)

        I wouldn’t have said anything, but this clearly merits professional assistance.

    • DEG

      Do what you need to, but remember there are folks here willing to help you.

    • Mojeaux

      Seriously, if there’s anything I can do, you have my email. Ozy lives in Olathe and has offered help also.

    • R.J.

      No need to apologize. I almost think an outburst is a requirement to be a Glib. Also remember your family is not just your genetic family, it is your extended family. Gabba Gabba, one of us! If you feel you must leave, do it to regain inner peace, not out of some misguided worry about an outburst. There is support here for you when you return.

      • slumbrew

        Akctually, it’s Gooble Gobble (I would have figured that movie was right up your alley).

      • SDF-7

        I just assumed RJ was of the age to have freakin’ Yo Gabba Gabba! inflicted upon him.

        Shudder.

  14. SDF-7

    Continuing my sabbatical on the immediate outskirts of Chumptown instead of living downtown… but just barely:

    Daily Quordle 105
    8️⃣6️⃣
    4️⃣7️⃣

    • MikeS

      7️⃣6️⃣
      5️⃣4️⃣

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      One “should’ve known better” guess away from the teens. That said, I take issue with top left.

      Daily Quordle 105
      7️⃣4️⃣
      6️⃣3️⃣

      quordle.com
      ⬜?⬜⬜⬜ ?⬜??⬜
      ⬜⬜⬜?⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜⬜
      ?⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜??⬜
      ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ?????
      ⬜⬜?⬜⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
      ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
      ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

      ⬜⬜?⬜⬜ ?⬜⬜⬜?
      ⬜??⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜??
      ⬜⬜⬜?⬜ ?????
      ⬜⬜⬜?? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
      ?⬜⬜?? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
      ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

      • rhywun

        I take issue with top left

        #metoo

      • MikeS

        #metoo X 2

      • Bobarian LMD

        Agreed!
        Daily Quordle 105
        7️⃣5️⃣
        4️⃣8️⃣
        quordle.com
        ?⬜?⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜?
        ?⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜?⬜
        ?⬜⬜?? ⬜?⬜⬜⬜
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜?
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ?????
        ???⬜⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
        ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

        ⬜?⬜⬜? ⬜⬜?⬜?
        ⬜?⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
        ⬜⬜?⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜?⬜
        ????? ⬜⬜⬜⬜?
        ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ?⬜⬜⬜?
        ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬜?⬜⬜?
        ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬜?⬜⬜⬜
        ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ?????

      • Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, I don’t see how that one should be in the word list at all.

      • db

        I only tried it because I had two guesses left and only two letters on that word. I was fooling around with what I hadn’t used before, and typed it in, thinking it would be rejected, but no.

      • one true athena

        Yes! I had that middle letter locked early and there aren’t a lot of options after that. Took me ages to even try the word

        Daily Quordle 105
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        6️⃣5️⃣

      • Grummun

        8 6
        5 4

        Top left is total asshoe.

    • Grumbletarian

      Daily Quordle 105
      3️⃣8️⃣
      6️⃣7️⃣

    • Tundra

      Daily Quordle 105
      4️⃣7️⃣
      6️⃣5️⃣

    • TARDis

      Daily Quordle 105
      7️⃣6️⃣
      3️⃣5️⃣

    • whiz

      Daily Quordle 105
      7️⃣6️⃣
      3️⃣5️⃣
      quordle.com
      ⬜??⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜?
      ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜?
      ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜?
      ?⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜???⬜
      ?⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜??⬜
      ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ?????
      ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

      ?⬜⬜?? ⬜?⬜⬜?
      ??⬜?? ⬜⬜?⬜?
      ????? ⬜⬜⬜⬜?
      ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬜⬜?⬜⬜
      ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ?????

      Back from Chumptown. Streak now at 1. I agree about the upper left.

      • whiz

        Actually, I just looked it up and it does appear in the dictionary.

      • Tundra

        Yeah, I used it in Scrabble once and won the challenge when it turns out that is indeed in the dictionary.

      • rhywun

        I looked it up before I submitted it, thinking, “GTFO.” ?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I wasted 30 minutes sitting there trying to find any alternative. I didn’t have the letters for anything else.

      • Not Adahn

        Yup. I had all five letters, one green. But I also didn’t know what rules quordle uses wrt proper nouns.

      • MikeS

        I had all 5 letters (one in the correct position) after 3 turns. I did like you and left it for last and entered it out of desperation.

      • Not Adahn

        Quordle won’t let you enter a invalid word though.

      • MikeS

        I know. And I typed it and saw they would allow it, but I just couldn’t believe it would be the word. I assumed I just wasn’t “seeing” the correct word.

      • cyto

        Daily Quordle 105
        9️⃣7️⃣
        8️⃣5️⃣
        quordle.com
        ⬜?⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜?⬜
        ⬜?⬜⬜? ⬜⬜??⬜
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜?
        ???⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
        ?⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜??⬜
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜????
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ?????
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
        ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

        ⬜⬜⬜?? ⬜?⬜?⬜
        ?⬜?⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜?⬜
        ??⬜?? ⬜⬜?⬜?
        ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜?⬜⬜?
        ⬜⬜⬜?⬜ ?????
        ⬜⬜⬜?? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
        ⬜⬜⬜?? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
        ????? ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

        We used it to denote regurgitation, particularly in response to alcohol.

        And I did not consider that as a possible word at all. I picked it in desperation and frustration.

  15. Certified Public Asshat

    Anyone here have a good opinion of Daryl Davis (blues musician who apparently converted Klansmen)?

    You can have that destroyed by listening to his Friday night appearance on Tim Pool. He’s just a racist asshole in his own right.

  16. Lackadaisical

    “I hope they get to the bottom of this. No matter what the cause is”

    Like hate crimes after Trump was elected, this has a zero percent chance of not being a false flag.

    • Lackadaisical

      Also, I think the culprit was female, judging on the spray painted graffiti. That’s better than my handwriting.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Huh? You think it is the pro-lifers that torched the place?

      In this case, I would be pretty confident that it was some pro-abortionists that started the fire and wrote the threatening message.

      But yeah, I wasn’t in a hurry to condemn anyone, so I can wait.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Another way to put it is: The racial hate crimes always turn out to be hoaxes because the supply of actual racism is too limited to meet demand. I don’t think there is a supply chain crisis when it comes to hate from the pro-choice crowd.

      • Rat on a train

        Not all are hoaxes. There were plenty of cases of POC on POC action.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Plenty? It seems like all the cases were hoaxes perpetrated by POCs. That was my point, they couldn’t get their victim card punched without having to manufacture the crime themselves.

        There isn’t enough virulent racism left in our country to meet the needs of all the people that want to suffer through a “hate crime” to get their Victimhood Union Card.

      • Rat on a train

        I am saying there were plenty of actual hate crimes like blacks attacking Asians.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Ah, gotcha. I’ve been confused for this whole thread.

        I don’t know why anyone would doubt that a pro-abortion crazy would torch an anti-abortion office. Especially in Madison.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        There are also plenty of cases on POC on white action. The knock out game comes to mind as piece of ordinary everyday racism. I forgot his name, but there was the black dude who recently ran over a bunch of white people.

        White on POC exists too. Dylan Roof comes to mind as non-hoax example. I’ve seen swatistkas where I live (rarely but I do run into them), and they are definitely not being sported by POC.

        Perhaps violence is the divider between hoax and non-hoaxes. With the exception of the that idiot in Chicago, it seems like the non-violent “hate crimes” turn out to be hoaxes, but not the violent acts.

      • Not Adahn

        You’re not wrong. However, the righties do learn ad adopt successful leftie tactics. And then the pseudoright calls them hypocrites.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        The racial hate crimes always turn out to be hoaxes because the supply of actual racism is too limited to meet demand.

        No wonder the left is always accusing market economies of failure.

    • Rat on a train

      It isn’t their fault. Trump has the power to get people to do all sorts of things they would never do.

    • Not Adahn

      False flag is definitely possible. However, lefty arson in Madison has been a thing in the past, and even botched arsons leading to false claims of being doused in accelerants by redhatters.

      • Lackadaisical

        Yeah, I think I misread the headline and interpreted it as an attack on an abortionist’s office. Could be legit.

  17. Sean

    Daily Quordle 105
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    7️⃣4️⃣
    quordle.com

    • Sean

      Viva la Waffle.

      #waffle108 3/5

      ?????
      ?⭐?⬜?
      ??⭐??
      ?⬜?⭐?
      ?????

      ? streak: 17
      ? #waffleelite
      wafflegame.net

    • db

      8 5
      6 4

    • Sean

      For you wordle masochists: https://wordleplay.com/octordle

      I just barely made it. I don’t think I’ll add this in rotation.

      • rhywun

        Oh hell no

  18. Sean

    Heh.

    #LazyPost

    • SDF-7

      I’d quibble with upper left — he doesn’t process solar radiation the same way and all, so wouldn’t happen. 😉

      Ms. Carter seems like a good egg, all around — able to poke fun at herself from time to time, but in general a classy lady. Let’s hope Gal Godot pays attention as time goes on.

      And before Fallout 4 — I never even knew Ms. Carter had a singing career.

      • Grumbletarian

        And since when does Batman wear his cape and cowl during the day?

  19. wdalasio

    There’s nothing quite like the abortion debate to bring out peak derp.

    The actual data is that 92.7% of abortions happen at or before 13 weeks. I’m guessing by 15 weeks, the number is up to 95%. And that’s not counting cases for the actual health of the mother that wouldn’t be affected by any restrictions. So, even the “draconian” 15 week limits are signing off on 95%+ of abortions. And that’s “slavery”?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      What was a bog-standard cultural wedge issue has turned into a true believer cult situation for the Left.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Seems all their wedge issues are getting turned into that.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      That’s what I find the to be the most hilarious part of Roe being overturned. The case that brought it back to the Supreme Court is very middle of the road, but the left litigated it anyway.

      • Rat on a train

        Safe, legal and rare taxpayer funded.

      • juris imprudent

        If it wasn’t my dick, you don’t get to hit my wallet.

      • pistoffnick

        About that. Do you pay property tax?

      • db

        Imagine if the NFA and its children had never been passed in 1934 and beyond, but there was a newly-legislated prohibition against keeping and bearing suitcase nukes in a single state. This case is *roughly* equivalent to the NRA taking an absolutist point of view, litigating against the prohibition and causing an avalanche of new state gun control laws.

    • Gender Traitor

      ???

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Another pilgrim hits the trail

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a surprise visit to Ukraine on Sunday, according to Irpin Mayor Olexander Markushyn.

    “He came to Irpin to see with his own eyes all the horror that the Russian occupiers had done to our city,” Markushyn said of Trudeau in a Telegram post.

    “And, of course, he was shocked. After all, he saw burned and completely destroyed not military facilities, but the homes of Irpin residents, who until recently enjoyed life and had their own plans for the future,” the mayor also said.

    ——-

    Throughout the conflict, Trudeau has condemned the unprovoked military invasion, saying last month that Russian President Vladimir Putin is “systemically targeting civilians” and “deliberately committing” war crimes.

    “The images are horrific, the stories we’re hearing and we have been hearing from Ukrainian Canadians, but through social media as well, of what’s going on,” Trudeau said.

    More likely than not looking for pointers on suppressing the civilian population.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      1) It’s so bad that the PM of Canada can show up.
      2) They keep using that word “unprovoked” like it just came out of the blue with no warning.

      • rhywun

        It’s so bad that the PM of Canada can show up.

        And the “first lady”.

        Really, something isn’t adding up here.

      • kbolino

        Ditto Boris Johnson

      • MikeS

        And Pelosi, Schiff, Blinken…

      • kbolino

        Israel-Palestine Redux

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Say what you will about JT, he does some of the best unintentional ASMR around. When he puts forth his soothing voice it’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen.

    • Rat on a train

      When will the president of my HOA go to Ukraine?

  21. Mojeaux

    @Sean re friends, no, the one pissing me off is not the “it just slipped in” woman. This one’s the one who lived with us for about 4 months when she was sick and homeless.

  22. DEG

    As a result, there’s a permanent “Dangerous Shorebreak” sign warning beachgoers about “serious injuries,” the outlet says. Court documents also report that the same day he visited the beach, lifeguards were making warning announcements on the PA system and there were multiple other signs with red flags in the area.

    So, not the resort’s fault.

    • Rat on a train

      I don’t recall a hazardous beach warning during pre-flight instructions.

    • blighted_non_millenial

      Turns, Mother Nature is a cold hearted bitch and will try to kill you anyway she can.

    • Pope Jimbo

      When we’ve visited Hawaii, we’ve seen the big signs and the red flags. They don’t joke around. I remember one sign at Waimea Bay beach that said something along the lines of “The surf will break your back”.

      Anyone want to bet that the guy was from the flatlands in the middle of the country? Big Water confuses us. It is hard to get your head around how big and powerful the waves can be when you only have known small lakes and rivers.

      • WTF

        Having been swimming in the Atlantic ocean ever since I was a toddler, I learned how confused people not used to it can be when I brought my wife (originally from Indiana) to Cape May for the first time. She didn’t realize how powerful even a four or five foot wave can be, and I still have to guide her to getting into and out of the water without getting knocked flying by a wave.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep people think “oh it’s only 3-4 foot waves no biggie” it is a biggie if you’ve never faced then or understand their mechanics. I was a pacific ocean water baby and there was a few times in my youth where a small 2 footer had strong undertows that take you out 15 more feet into the brine.

      • slumbrew

        Summer trips to Jones Beach while I was growing up instilled a healthy respect for the waves. They aren’t even all that big there.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        When I was still bodysurfing in San Diego, we would always get tourists who would just come right on out thinking that they could do it too. We’d try to tell them but they’d just get pissed off.

        Ten minutes later we’d be fishing them out of the water. Dude, we’re wearing wetsuits and flippers for a reason.

        That said, I came close to breaking my spine once when I decided to “just ride one in” on a hard shorebreak. I think the descriptive term is full scorpion.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I’ve been slammed on a shorebreak…when all you see is the water go out from underneath you and sand…you know it’s gonna hurt.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        “Welp, I fucked up.”

      • db

        I used to love to bodysurf. My Dad was an avid swimmer and loved ocean swimming, and taught me how to do it safely. Many years later I met a guy who was paralyzed from the neck down after a bodysurfing accident. That kind of ruined it for me. I know those kinds of accidents are rare but…geez.

      • slumbrew

        When we were on our honeymoon, we ended up chatting with a couple while hanging in the pool – he had a full neck brace on and it turns out he had gone out for a quick bit of body-surfing before their vacation and promptly broke his neck! He was incredibly fortunate that he didn’t paralyze himself.

        Still flew to Hawaii from SD after that, which was pretty ballsy.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        All these stories make bodysurfing seem fairly unappealing.

      • Ownbestenemy

        But it is damn fun.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Young and dumb. We’d surf for hours and then consume massive amounts of authentic rolled tacos and beer.

        There was no way you could eat as many calories as you burned.

        And yeah, it was a blast.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Our SOP for leaving Oahu to go back home after a vacation would be to hit the tourist shops on Waikiki beach. The kids and the wife would go nuts buying souvenirs. I’d head over to the pier to watch the body surfers. Many of them were wahinis who would paddle around with their bikini bottomed butts sticking out of the water.

        Then I discovered the public showers that the body surfers would use to before heading home. The wahinis would turn on the water and start washing the sand out of their bras and bottoms. Often pulling the fabric away from their bodies so they could completely rinse off.

        Uffda.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I quit because I was constantly getting sick from sewage in the water. I was getting a case of bronchitis about every three or four months.

        There was one guy who used to bodysurf with a helmet. I never could figure out how he didn’t get a neck injury from the extra weight and drag in the water.

        Boomer Beach and Wipeout Beach in La Jolla were our preferred breaks. The names were appropriate.

  23. UnCivilServant

    Well, the interviews are done.

    We got an operator, a developer, and an admin for an admin openig, but the admin doesn’t want to relocate to be close enough for the 50% in office time required, so it’s likely the posting will go back out to bid. It was embarassing how little the skillsets of the operator and the developer overlapped with what the position required. The developer was at last honest about not being a fit for the role, while the operator was in ‘fake it till you make it’ mode. I have nothing against either and wish them well, they’re just not who we need.

  24. Stinky Wizzleteats

    The Supreme Court is going to force women to give birth to children they don’t want?
    Holy shit! No wonder people are pissed.

    • juris imprudent

      And in fact the Supreme Court is going to force women to fuck men they don’t want to fuck in order to get pregnant. Almost like some dystopian book.

      • Jerms

        The supreme court is going to reach down and rip the condoms right off our dicks.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Fuck. As if the Middle East is already fucked. Now all these virgin birth messiahs are going to be running around stirring shit up.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Quibbling about track layouts is a good way to evade thinking about what’s fundamentally wrong with F1. I’d rather see it be about drivers, not technology, but that train left the station long ago. Say what you will about Bernie Ecclestone, the racing was good and it didn’t take the GDP of a small European nation to race.

    After another weekend of bitching about the “slippery” track surface, I wonder how well Max Verstappen or any of those other guys would do in the WRC.

    And- It appears, from in car footage, the WRC has dropped paddle shifters. Good for them.

    • slumbrew

      Complaining about a track surface departing from the standard isn’t out of line.

      You can debate that the standards should be different, but that’s a different conversation.

      re: WRC, Sainz might have gotten a few pointers from pops. I believe a few others have done some rallying. Bottas, mebbe? The now-departed Kimi, of course…

    • SDF-7

      Yes and no — it should be about the drivers partially, but I don’t want to see F2++ where the cars are pretty much the same. Part of my enjoyment of F1 *is* the engineering, the ability of strong teams to work inside the regulations and out-innovate the others. We’ll see how the season (and the next couple) go — but I was certainly worried going in that the over-specifying the cars combined with the budget cap seem designed to prevent that.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        This.

        I lost interest in indycar when it turned back into 25 of the same car (with performance balanced engines from 2 manufacturers) droning around, having to hit the turbo button to pass one another. Oh, but every race was “the closest qualifying spread in history!” and 23 of the 25 cars would finish on the lead lap every race and 100 zillion lead changes (because leading became a liability). Yay, much excite.

        I get that this isn’t the 1960s, we can’t throw the rulebook wide open. However, it would be nice if there was a middle ground between spec cars and the insane costs of prior era F1. Hopefully this new package from F1 finds the balance.

      • Lackadaisical

        How would this system work: build anything you want (maybe within certain safety standards?), At a budget under X.

  26. Mustang

    “We’re sending weapons to the wrong place. We should be sending them to these unlucky bastards. (I know, we shouldn’t be sending them to anybody. You get my point.)”

    Why shouldn’t we? It’s just another export. I’ve got no problem selling weapons to (some) people that want them, even on credit. I’ve definitely got no problem selling them to people defending their property, especially if it keeps us from having to assist.

  27. Pope Jimbo

    A story from the Rubes in the Mist beat on Covid.

    It actually isn’t bad because most of the rubes are OK with people doing what they want. The one quote, though, that made this linkworthy was from the educated doctor running a clinic out in the sticks:

    Dr. Marie Morris, medical director at the Fairmont hospital, still can’t wrap her mind around vaccine hesitancy. Morris has COVID patients ask for ivermectin — which Morris uses to treat parasitic ringworms in her horses — then say they fear the vaccine.

    “The thought processes are not scientific, are illogical,” she said. “They don’t think the vaccine is well-enough studied or proven. Umm, they’ve given over a billion doses! What do you mean? It probably got tested and proven more rapidly than any vaccine in history, don’t you think?”

    Anyone want to tell her how many doses of ivermectin have been given out?

    • slumbrew

      So, rushing it through testing is a plus in her book?

      Keep her away from engineering.

      • Pope Jimbo

        She probably had an internship at Microsoft. Their testing protocol seems to be to release new stuff to the wild and let their customers “test” it for them.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        That seems to be the standard software dev approach these days.

      • kbolino

        The ability to distribute patches continuously over the Internet basically killed the need for extensive QA and tightly managed releases. Apart from Nintendo, I don’t know of any company that still maintains that level of pre-release near-perfection anymore. Even other Japanese developers have caught on, and major releases from e.g. Bandai Namco or Koei Tecmo get lots of patches (though still fewer and generally less extensive than those from AAA Western devs).

        There are some positives to the model, though: when done well, open betas and early access have produced some good stuff on much tighter budgets than big name software companies could ever achieve.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I liked the old Firefox model of long term releases that were well baked, interim releases that were mostly bug free, and nightlies for the newest, more buggy features.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Not only test it…but pay for it and test it under a “crowdsouced” model.

      • R C Dean

        Its a giant open air uncontrolled clinical trial.

        So science. Much logical.

    • SDF-7

      Anyone want to ask her about “long term impact” versus short term distribution?

      Talk about being the punchline for “What do you call someone who graduates last in their medical classes?”

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *golf clap*

      • R C Dean

        I was going to go with “Chief Medical Officer”.

      • Grumbletarian

        Government expert?

    • Lackadaisical

      “The thought processes are not scientific, are illogical,”

      She’s not wrong…

    • WTF

      And the “vaccines” don’t prevent infection, spread, or illness, and the VAERS reports are several times worse than any other “vaccine”, all to prevent what is at this point basically just a cold for the vast majority of people. A sensible person makes a risk assessment regarding the potential risk from the vaccine versus their potential risk from Covid. For most people, the vaccine doesn’t make sense.

      • Tundra

        I find it interesting that there is zero coverage of the Pfizer data dump.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Like the leak of RvW was perfectly coincidentally released the same day that: report of CDC buying phone location data and Pfizer data dump. Two big stories that should have been #1 but instead we get “they want us back to 1950s!”

      • juris imprudent

        Or the Friday before last dump of the FBI warrantless searches.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I miss a contentious press where every fart was reported on.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Yes. But I’m not surprised. The published Pfizer trial last July showed those vaccinated were at greater risk of dying from heart-related problems than the unvaccinated were at risk from dying of Covid. That has been out in the public for almost a year and nothing but crickets.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        If it was good news, it would have been covered.

      • Ownbestenemy

        It gets the perfect cover too. “Right wing” or alternative news sites ran the stories and the true believers get to point and scream its a biased source!

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Joe Manchin, pantomime villain

    Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., asked about the criticisms of his colleagues, said only that some Democrats, including him, are “frustrated that we’re not doing more with the majority that the voters gave us.”

    “We got the majority, and under unusual circumstances, we got it on Jan. 6, when the Capitol was under attack. I think people expected us to act with a sense of urgency because of the circumstances under which we got it,” Kaine said.

    Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who has worked with Manchin on various bipartisan projects, said only, “Joe Manchin is a friend of mine.”

    He paused, then added: “A good friend of mine. Just went out with him the other night.”

    Republicans, who have cheered on Manchin’s willingness to scale back or kill elements of Biden’s agenda, are full of praise for him.

    Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming, the No. 3 Republican, hailed Manchin as “the one Democrat” who understands that “inflation is a real problem,” that “American energy is important for our national security” and that the U.S. needs “a secure border.”

    That overwhelming Democratic majority, which can only be viewed as a mandate to completely rearrange America; funny how one guy can completely negate it.

    Manchin should grow a mustache, so he can twirl it as he drives the widders and orphans into the snow.

    • slumbrew

      48/50 is a clear majority!

      • Lackadaisical

        Common core math really is different.

      • juris imprudent

        How many lights do you see behind me?

    • rhywun

      “I think people expected us to act with a sense of urgency because of the circumstances under which we got it.”

      I think you’re an idiot. Get back to us in mid-November with your thoughts on how much the people gave a crap about muh insurrection and on your side’s failure to wreck the country fast enough.

    • kbolino

      If the Democrats got to exercise their “majority”, they’d just be busy turning the entire country into California/every major city. Stated preferences (policy choices) vs revealed preferences (interstate migration) indicate that this isn’t actually all that “popular”.

    • R C Dean

      We got the majority

      Math is hard.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Complaining about a track surface departing from the standard isn’t out of line.

    If the car won’t work if the track surface isn’t perfect (meaning: just like in the rolling road wind tunnel) you have a problem.

    F1 should just race their wind tunnels.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Umm, they’ve given over a billion doses! What do you mean? It probably got tested and proven more rapidly than any vaccine in history, don’t you think?”

    Now compare the results against the test subjects given the placebo.

    Oh, wait…

  31. The Late P Brooks

    Doctor Grandma, Freedom Fighter

    First lady Jill Biden spent part of Mother’s Day making an unannounced trip to Uzhhorod, Ukraine, a small city in the far southwestern corner of Ukraine, a country that for the last 10 weeks has been under invasion by Russia.

    At a converted school that now serves as temporary housing for displaced citizens, Biden met with Ukrainian first lady Olena Zelenska, who has not been seen in public since the start of the war on February 24.
    “I wanted to come on Mother’s Day,” Biden said to her Ukrainian counterpart, the two women seated at a small table in a classroom of a former school that is now a source of temporary housing for displaced Ukrainians, including 48 children. “We thought it was important to show the Ukrainian people this war has to stop. And this war has been brutal.” Biden added, “The people of the United States stand with the people of Ukraine.”

    ——-

    “First of all, I would like to thank you for a very courageous act,” said Zelenska, speaking through an interpreter to Biden. “Because we understand what it takes for the US first lady to come here during a war when the military actions are taking place every day, where the air sirens are happening every day, even today. We all feel your support and we all feel the leadership of the US President but we would like to note that the Mother’s Day is a very symbolic day for us because we also feel your love and support during such an important day.”
    The meeting of the two women included a closed-door bilateral, which lasted for about one hour and took place at what was a school before the war. The building has been transformed into a refuge, a collaboration between the government of Ukraine and the International Organization for Migration, the UN migration agency. Dozens of internally displaced persons now live in the building, on a leafy property near the city center of Uzhhorod.

    Take that, Edith Wilson!

    • Ownbestenemy

      Still wondering when she was nominated and approved by the Senate to be a diplomat…

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m surprised DR. Jill Biden was willing to give up the Joe-Bot controls for this.

        Maybe she has figured out the Kamala isn’t bright enough to crack the parental controls on the remote?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Starlink and Musk’s work on brain-chip interaction maintained continuous unlink capabilities for Dr. Jill with the Joe-Bot. Still some kinks and bugs were identified. Biden was not to rebuke protests of SCOTUS.

    • rhywun

      “We thought it was important to show the Ukrainian people this war has to stop.”

      By steadfastly refusing any attempts at diplomacy and continuing to funnel billions of dollars worth of weaponry into the country?

      • kbolino

        If you win the war, then it ends!

        Also if you lose the war but pretend you didn’t, it still ends.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      I don’t think Ukraine has Mother’s Day. They have International Women’s Day. This was theater for US consumption.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Melania Trump went for a joyride in an Osprey, as First Lady. That’s bravery above and beyond the call of duty.

    • Ownbestenemy

      That’s just dumb. Awesome airframe…shitty track record.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    By steadfastly refusing any attempts at diplomacy and continuing to funnel billions of dollars worth of weaponry into the country?

    Anything less would be surrender.

    CHARGE!

    *toots bugle, runs up stairs waving saber*

    • kbolino

      As begets our theater-kid-occupied government, when they go to war, they think strength is synonymous with acting tough.

      • Ownbestenemy

        #diplomacy is back in business

      • kbolino

        As befits*

    • rhywun

      All that’s missing now is a pic of Frau Dr. Prof. Biden’s head popping out of tank.

      “Ready for action!”

    • whiz

      That was fantastic, thanks for the link!

  34. Tundra

    Petty was so damn good. Damn The Torpedoes was one of the first albums I ever bought. 1979 and I rode my bike to the store.

    *does math*

    I’m fucking old.

    • Rat on a train

      Old enough to remember when people worried about nuclear war with Russia?

  35. db

    Tulip:

    To complete your journey to the dark side

      • R C Dean

        SALE HAS ENDED

        *insert sadface emoji*

      • db

        what? Still shows up for me.

      • R C Dean

        Now its showing up for me. Not giving them my email, though.

      • db

        I use a throwaway e-mail. They don’t even care if it’s real.

      • db

        Plus, the e-mails I actually get to the throwaway are really infrequent–they only use it to advertise their seconds sales and occasionally some recipes.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Check out Misen for pots and pans. Comparable to AllClad but much less expensive. I think Made In is the best value out there for chef knives.

      • db

        Do you have a link for them?

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        https://misen.com/

        Here’s Misen. I’ve only bought stainless pots and pans there so don’t know how the nonstick holds up. Don’t recommend the knives here though.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        https://madeincookware.com/products/8-inch-chef-knife

        The link isn’t working for me, but it could be Brave.

        For Misen, they often have 20% off discounts. I have one for nonstick but it might be good for anything: TRYNONSTICK20

      • db

        Thanks!

      • db

        I have stocked my kitchen almost exclusively from their factory seconds sales. The sous vide heater/circulator (like most of their electrical appliances) is not made in the US, but the good stuff is made at a factory here in the Pittsburgh area. Their lower end non-stick stuff is non-US made as well, but the bulk of their cookware is really high quality. Even the factory second quality stuff looks better than once-used. The items with “packaging damage” are first quality but maybe they got rained on and the box is funny-looking or something.

  36. db

    “It’s not that you can do whatever you want — unless you’re in America. This is China,” another police officer says sternly, waving a bottle of disinfectant in his hand. “Stop asking me why. There is no why. We have to obey our country’s regulations and epidemic control policies.”

    Sound familiar?

    • R C Dean

      It’s not that you can do whatever you want — unless you’re in America.

      Where is this “America”, and how do I get there?

      • db

        Indeed, that was one of my thoughts too.

  37. UnCivilServant

    You lot will love this.

    We’ve got four contractor positions open with regards to an ongoing project. Two in particular are a developer and an admin position. One of the vendors mixed up and submitted their admin candidate for the developer job and their developer candidate for the admin job. We (my group) realized this and inquired if we could just swap them back and interview them for the position that actually fits their skillsets.

    The answer is no.

    Because the vendor put candidate A in for job Y and candidate B in for job X, those are the only position we can consider them for, even if Candidate A is better suited to job X and candidate B is better suited for job Y. So we can’t even see if they are the best candidate for the other job.

    • Sensei

      Is this lack of flexibility on NYS or the employment vendor?

      I’m assuming it’s on the state.

    • db

      Can you just have them submit new applications?

      • UnCivilServant

        To do that we have to go through the whole process, find no hirable candidates (or have the offer refused) and then go back out to bid.

        Which is highly likely for my admin position.

    • Lackadaisical

      How them both, and then just give them each other’s workload. Problem solved.

      (Pretty sure this won’t work for a multitude of reasons)

      • Lackadaisical

        Hire* ef me.

      • UnCivilServant

        What if my developer candidate isn’t as good as one of the developers submitted to the correct job? That solution would only work if we had a matched set of best candidates (but we can’t even interview them for the better fit role)

    • Tundra

      We’re gonna party like it’s 1899!

      • db

        Wow, just wait to see what electricity shortages do to the “peaceful protest” movement this summer.

    • R C Dean

      There was an article in the Tucson paper about how we are at higher risk of blackouts this summer. Mixed in with the garble about global warming was an astonishing admission that this was (in part, according to the article) due to the ongoing investment in “renewables” rather than baseline power. It turns out our utility, and apparently many others, has not built a single new baseline generating station in some years, but has spent exclusively on wind and solar.

      Morons. The odds that we will sell Casa Dean when I retire just went up, so we can downsize to something that, among other things, uses less electricity.

      • rhywun

        NY passed some ridiculous “zero carbon” bill a couple years ago and the grand poobahs are still going through the theater of “public hearings” that are attended only by activist crackpots and the occasional contrarian. The whole thing is a fucking farce but it will never end until reality smacks everyone in the face.

        It could happen sooner than I expected if current trends continue.

    • Rat on a train

      The challenge is that wind and solar farms … don’t produce electricity at all times
      Ecowarriors should be willing to cut power when there isn’t enough green energy to go around. Don’t most electricity providers have an opt-in program for remote power cutoff?

      • UnCivilServant

        “They shouldn’t cut MY power, I’m righteous. They should cut the power of those deplorable unbelievers!”

        /warmist

      • R C Dean

        + 1 social credit score

      • Rat on a train

        Don’t cut mine. My carbon footprint is well under one Gore.

      • UnCivilServant

        Your carbon ration is nowhere near one Gore. It is in fact, half a hermit. You are mandated to stop breathing for half the year and cease all other carbon releasing activities.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      As much as people poo-poo windmills and solar around here, decentralizing electricity generation seems to be a good bet. Are there any better single-home electric generation systems out there?

      • slumbrew

        I’m still waiting for my Mr. Fusion

      • db

        It’s only a good bet if you don’t consider the amazing benefits of baseload generation in efficiency; the cost and hassle of maintenance; the wasteful duplication of infrastructure; the environmental impacts of constructing those renewable generation assets; and the environmental cost associated.

        There is an argument for more widely distributed nukes in the form of SMRs, but even there you’re talking about a few hundred megawatts at a pop, not intermittent 2-3 kW generators that rely on storage and expensive switching/inverting gear.

      • R C Dean

        Better, how?

        My beef with home solar is, aside from the ROI being difficult, it won’t start my air conditioners. Apparently when they kick on, they need a surge of power that you can’t get from solar/batteries. At least not a standard install.

      • db

        The inrush current for induction motors is instantaneously equivalent to the locked-rotor current, which can be quite high, maybe 500% of normal running current.

      • Sensei

        Batteries are usually pretty good at delivering current. I know the Tesla solar fanboys have no issues running AC in SoCal.

        There are other lithium ion power bank suppliers that I’d consider given Tesla’s awful customer service.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You need batteries for that.

        Problem is, batteries have relatively short lives (7 to 12 years) and they’re expensive.

      • slumbrew

        You need a Shipstone.

      • Sensei

        Depending on location my preference would be solar and battery farm.

        For example there are people in Hawaii that fully live off grid. Moderate temperatures and good sun allow them to run solar and low cost lead acid batteries. This even provides selective AC use for mid day and dehumidification.

        My preference would be a field where the panels are easy to clean and service and a lithium ion battery shed in case something decides to smoke up. With enough storage and sun you can run your home full out for a few days or selectively almost indefinitely.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Renewable sources aside, I wonder what it would look like instead if the market had focused on individual diesel or LNG generators for homes. Lease/rent/purchase from the power company. No need to worry about transmission. May also have neutered eminent domain.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Noisy, dirty, and less efficient than centralized turbine generators.

        And the power company has to have some way to guarantee that nobody is backfeeding the lines when they service the distribution network.

        That said, I’d like to see micro-reactors put into service and scattered about.

        https://energypost.eu/micro-nuclear-reactors-up-to-20mw-portable-safer/

    • db

      So the deal has a $1 billion break-up fee, but imagine that Musk is able to back out, losing that 1 billion, but renegotiate the deal at a price a few billion dollars lower. Is there legal risk for him in that situation?

      • slumbrew

        That, I dunno.

  38. Not Adahn

    So, wrt the Kentucky Derby:

    If a horse is added (extremely) late, there isn’t enough time for people to place bets and the oddsmakers to adjust accordingly, correct? Should that be a red flag of hinkosity?

    • robc

      Odds are based on money bet, bookmakers have no say in it, unlike other sports bets.

      Simple example, using no vig, with a 3 horse race:

      A: $10 bet
      B: $8 bet
      C: $2 bet

      $20 in pool, so A would be 1:1, $10 bet wins $10.
      B would be 3/2, $8 wins $12.
      C would be 9:1, $2 wins $18.

      • robc

        For the scratched horse, bets are refunded and taken out of pool.

        The new horse was added Friday morning, so plenty of time for bettors, as most of the money was placed on Saturday.

      • UnCivilServant

        Are odds even allowed to get down to 1:1? That seems like a bet only a sucker would take.

      • robc

        The can go lower. You get your money bet back too. So 1:1 pays $4 on a $2. Bet $2, win $2, plus get your $2 back.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not much of a gambler, so I’ve always assumed money sunk does not come back.

  39. Mojeaux

    My laptop is making bad noises. It is under warranty until 5/13 and we are now scrambling to clone my drive to put in an old computer and send this one out for service. Warranties. Save me.

    • db

      I have had good luck with CloneZilla.

      • Mojeaux

        I don’t know what my husband uses, but he loves problem-solving and loves to solve my problems, so I’ll leave him to it.

  40. Ozymandias

    Daily Quordle 105
    4️⃣7️⃣
    6️⃣5️⃣

    I need new starter words.

    • rhywun

      #metoo

      I don’t get 2s or 3s like some of the wizards around here.

      Or just hold on to my usual words and wait for luck to strike.

      • db

        With my normal starter words I get all five vowels and the more common consonants in two words. It doesn’t help all that much. I’m going to start looking for words that pare down the common letters slightly and include others. I haven’t done any kind of analysis on Quordle words so I have to assume they are drawn from a pool that is representative of the letter distribution in common English.

      • whiz

        I have an article on this submitted to TPTB.

      • Swiss Servator

        It shall be posted next week!

  41. Ted S.

    Daily Quordle 105
    7️⃣4️⃣
    6️⃣5️⃣
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    Fuck the top left, that is all.