Winstons Mom The Morning After Links

by | Jun 29, 2022 | Daily Links | 536 comments

A client last night just wanted to watch the US Women’s Soccer Team. I guess they were playing Columbia?  whatever, I only bring it up because this homely broad playing in the midfield kept hiking her shorts up.  Is she doing this on purpose or is it one of those subconscious reactions to maintain a certain level of comfort under stress?

if its the former she’s gotta do a lot better than that!

Ghilishane Maxwell sentenced to 20 years.  I’m totally jealous of her tits by the way, get a load of these things!

CA Attorney General doxes a bunch of gun owners.  Great idea, piss off everyone after making themuse a bullet button.

Fear of inflation driving down consumer sentiment. Not sure its fear anymore its reality.

This has to be the most UK thing since they decided to go all 6’s and 7’s and tell the dirty bloger to drive a lorry up their arse before shating upon turtles or something.

No shit, now quit losing my money cunt!

If Trump tried to choke out the SS driver, and commadeer an urban assault vehicle, why would they sit on such a kick ass story for two goddamn years?

This one is great

”I don’t want to discuss my area of expertise.  Im too saddened anout the downfall of democracy.”  What a bitch!

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Winston's Mom

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536 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Ghilishane Maxwell sentenced to 20 years. I’m totally jealous of her tits by the way, get a load of these things!

    The patriarchy put her in jail so she couldn’t fuck with the men that were going to child rape island…

    • Q Continuum

      She can have sex with the tranny inmates female penises instead.

      • AlexinCT

        Oh, I am willing to take bets she doesn’t last a year in prison before she has an accident or commits suicide by putting two bullets in the back of her head after hanging herself.

      • waffles

        She gets out in 4 years for good behavior.

    • juris imprudent

      Teen-age girls, but yeah, let’s not talk about who was there.

      • slumbrew

        I know it’s a somewhat nit-picky position, but I hate the constant conflation of pedophilia with ephebophilia.

        Sleeping with 17 year old girls is malum prohibitum , not malum in se.

        I don’t disagree that it should be illegal (SLD), but they are very different things.

      • Q Continuum

        “Age of consent” is another slippery slope in the same way people sometimes struggle with abortion. Fucking a ten year old is bad, is fucking an eleven year old bad? Yes, but is fucking a twelve year old bad? Yes, but is fucking a thirteen year old bad… etc. etc. From a legal standpoint, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

        Shameless self promotion (all the way from 2017 bitches!):

        https://www.glibertarians2017.link/2017/10/24/exploration-of-philosophical-vagueness-aka-principles-are-hard-lets-go-shopping/

      • UnCivilServant

        My moral line is at “Completed Puberty” Which, naturally, is a different age for different people.

        My squick factor for those who have passed the moral line is in age discrepancies.

        No, I can’t draw explicitly numerical lines.

      • pistoffnick

        explicitly numerical lines.

        88888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

        ^
        |
        |
        explicitly numerical line

      • UnCivilServant

        So many decapitated snowmen. I didn’t realize you were that violent, Nick.

      • Pope Jimbo

        ‘8’? Really?

        Why are all the other numbers afraid of 7?

        Because 7 is black!

      • robc

        Age/2+7 works surprisingly well as a “rule-of-thumb”, wouldn’t want to encode it in law. But for squick factor, it works.

        My Dad was 27 and my Mom was 18 when they got married, so he violated it, so YMMV.

      • robc

        That puts a hard line at 14. And it says an 18 year old with a 16 year old is okay, but a HS Senior with a HS freshman is right out (and knowing more than a few cases of that, they were all exploitive). However a College Senior with a Freshman is okay (22 and 18), but a Grad Student with a Freshman is icky.

      • UnCivilServant

        Grad students are icky, but that’s in and of themselves.

        I never liked that mathematical formulation, it just didn’t seem to add up.

      • Not Adahn

        Not making a pedophile joke: I originally heard the rule as being Age/3 +7

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Age/2+7 works surprisingly well as a “rule-of-thumb”
        *does some math*
        *tries to imagine being married to a 24 year old*

        i’ll be in my bunk

        /just kidding

        I get that the age discrepancies become less of an issue as you get older, but I have a hard time imagining actually living life with somebody a decade younger than me, at least at this stage. I have no desire to do the things that 24 year old women like to do with their boyfriends/husbands (besides the sex, of course).

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        a Grad Student with a Freshman is icky.

        I think there’s a caveat on the 23-26 age range where it’s okay to drop slightly below the line if you’re still in school. College sort of retards the mental and emotional maturity of people in that way. That said, I don’t know if I’ve ever encountered anybody in their last year of a PhD program who wanted anything to do with the incoming freshman class. I’m sure such people exist, but I haven’t met any. Thinking of it from a different perspective, somebody who has been working at their post-college career for 4 years would be considered weird if they were slumming it with college freshmen on the regular.

      • Animal

        Hey Nineteen
        No, we can’t dance together
        (We can’t dance together)
        No, we can’t talk at all
        Please take me along
        When you slide on down

      • waffles

        I completed puberty by the age of 24.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I don’t think it’s nitpicky at all, there’s a huge difference between them.

      • AlexinCT

        Maybe my problem is that even when I was a teen, I like mature women more… Never been attracted to those that are too young and will keep my thoughts of that to myself.

      • Tres Cool

        I was also always attracted to women older than me. Then I got old.
        Jugsy is 14 years younger.

      • AlexinCT

        I think, at least for me, it has more to do with avoiding the immaturity and shit attitude of younger women than the actual age, per se. Now that I am closer to hitting 60, I am not looking for 70 or 80 year old grannies to bang, but I am not at all interested in women under 45 either. Some guys want them young as hell still.

      • DrOtto

        ^ This guy gets it.

      • pistoffnick

        …I like mature women…

        /carefully hides DVDs of “Airtight Grannies” 1, 2, and 3

        Ronnie McDowell – Older Women Make Good Lovers

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3hRamSOlDk

      • Surly Knott

        ”St. Winifred’s School Choir Presents There’s No One Quite Like Grandma?”

      • Homple

        “They don’t yell, swell or tell and they’re grateful as hell”.

      • Animal

        The summer I was 18, I was… involved with a divorcee who was exactly twice my age – 36. She had a daughter than was only four years younger than me.

        Pro: I learned more that summer than I would have in ten years with girls my own age, and that has paid dividends since.
        Con: The bunch of assholes and miscreants I called my friends were in the habit of loudly singing “Mrs. Rpbinson” whenever I showed up someplace.

      • UnCivilServant

        If I remembered the lyrics, I’d quote them here.

      • AlexinCT

        Are you the guy in this song, Animal?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I agree there’s a huge difference, but is it in degree or in kind?

        If a 40 year old teacher boinks a 14 year old girl, is that particularly less bad than him molesting an 8 year old? I guess it comes down to whether you think a 14 year old is capable of consenting to that. The assumption would be that she can’t be easily manipulated by an authority figure to bend to his will. She couldn’t possibly be convinced that this was an okay thing or even a good thing through sheer imposition of his will on her. It’s essentially the same manipulative process that a predator would use on an 8 year old, but a bit more sophisticated because the 14 year old has lived more life.

        (I use 14 as an example rather than 16 or 17 because I think the age of majority should be 16)

      • Fatty Bolger

        Sexually immature child vs. sexually mature biological adult is clearly a difference in kind.

        If a 40 year old teacher boinks a 14 year old girl, is that particularly less bad than him molesting an 8 year old?

        Yes. I’m not saying either should be legal, far from it. But they are not the same at all.

      • robc

        Looking thru the KY statutes once, there were something like 6 categories based on age of perp and age of victim, ranging from “slap on wrist” to “pound me in the ass prison”.

        The KY legislature made the distinctions and seemed to get it right.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I think that bright lines something that isn’t nearly so bright. A cocoon isn’t a caterpillar, but it’s not a butterfly either.

      • R C Dean

        Of course its arbitrary. But I don’t think a case-by-case determination without clear lines is a good basis for criminal law.

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      Y’know, with all the leaks we hear about, I’m kinda surprised that no one has leaked the client list yet.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Leaks are usually self-serving. I guess nobody with access is feeling particularly suicidal at the moment.

  2. Count Potato

    “Relax, there are no pills involved today”

    What if I want pills?

    • juris imprudent

      You take the pill you get more inflation.

      • DrOtto

        What if the inflation isn’t transitory and lasts more than 4 hours?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Consult your economist. Do not take the pill if interest rates are under 3% or if you don’t have an emergency fund of 3 to 6 months. Pregnant and lactating women should use caution when taking the pill, as side effects may include lack of baby formula.

      • DEG

        You need Stimulus!

    • Winston's Mom

      I’m not in that business

    • banginglc1

      Dude, haven’t you heard? The supreme court banned the pill. And they banned women from voting. That’s what I gather from all the hubub at least

  3. AlexinCT

    CA Attorney General doxes a bunch of gun owners. Great idea, piss off everyone after making themuse a bullet button.

    This was done on purpose. That’s how fucking evil these people are.

    • slumbrew

      No standing to sue anyone, of course. Just an honest mistake.

      • AlexinCT

        It’s telling that the defense of their criminal behavior is that it was an accident of incompetence. When you can claim incompetence to avoid consequences, you know your system is beyond broken.

      • banginglc1

        look, Hillary didn’t mean to break any rules when she set up her unsecured server!

    • Not Adahn

      Interesting that they used a pic of a gun gamer to go with that article. I don’t know that I’ve seen that in a normie publication before.

      • Pope Jimbo

        At least they were wearing a mask in the story pic.

        Think of how dangerous she would have been if unmasked!

    • Tonio

      The leak included the private information of 244 judges and 420 reserve officers in addition to thousands of private civilians.

      • AlexinCT

        That will teach em!

      • hayeksplosives

        I never registered my guns in CA nor even bought ammo during my brief 3-year stay there. Just had a gut feel that it’d be best not to tip them off that I was a gun owner (before the boat accident on Tahoe of course. Now I got nuthin.)

      • juris imprudent

        Smart that it was Tahoe, if you had opted for Lake Mead you might be in trouble.

      • juris imprudent

        244 judges and 420 reserve officers

        The most likely reason the site is offline right now – while they scrub them off that list.

      • slumbrew

        I suspect Tonio was pointing out that all of those people are civilians

      • juris imprudent

        Indeed, and I think my point stands as well.

      • Tonio

        You are both correct.

  4. AlexinCT

    Fear of inflation driving down consumer sentiment. Not sure its fear anymore its reality.

    It was Trump Putin Ukraine war SCOTUS bad messaging’s fault!

  5. Count Potato

    “since they decided to go all 6’s and 7’s and tell the dirty bloger to drive a lorry up their arse before shating upon turtles or something”

    Does anyone speak English in England?

  6. Not Adahn

    shating upon turtles

    Are you talking about that dreary little village in the west north counties, or Americanizing the word for crawly-bumps?

    • Not Adahn

      Where’s Limey been, btw?

      • Chafed

        Good question.

    • Zwak, who counted all his blessings, and counted only one.

      And I oop.

  7. AlexinCT

    That asshat Krugman predicted a destructive recession and the collapse of the stock market under Trump, then told us after the 2020 election was fortified that the good times were finally here! I guess his idea of good economic times is the globalist agenda destroying the middle class and making us all poorer, while the government and the propagandist arm tell the serfs constant lies through circuses, but we get no mean tweets.

    • banginglc1

      I’m guessing he’s already written the “inflation is good” article, but I refuse to check

    • AlexinCT

      That link warns me that it is a virus….

      • slumbrew

        Huh, wonder why? Should just link to ‘Userscripts’ in the App Store

      • Tres Cool

        Better call Fauci then.

      • AlexinCT

        If I wanted to be abused I would ask Winston’s mom, cause at least in that case I might get me a reach around.

      • SDF-7

        So you’re saying you just came here for an argument?

      • Tres Cool

        Just never gets old.

    • Sensei

      Worked for me thanks!

      Any idea what the most recent version of eyepiece is? I found one that is more than a few years old.

    • R C Dean

      OK, help me out here. On Safari on my IPad. Downloaded the Userscripts app, turned it on in Settings. Clicked the link for Eyepiece, and . . . Nothing. What am I missing?

      • Sensei

        The iPad ain’t fun to kludge things into. You need to create a directory for scripts – i.e Scripts. Point the App you just downloaded to use that directory as your source of scripts. Download Trashy’s script into that folder.

  8. DEG

    The Morning After Links

    Zwak’s post wasn’t that bad. Actually, it was good.

    I’m totally jealous of her tits by the way, get a load of these things!

    She does have a nice rack. In this picture, she looks way too much like a Jewish gal I knew through dancing whom I asked out. She shot me down.

    On the Maxwell/Epstein note, I will go out on a limb here and predict that the Heat Death of the Universe will happen before we see their client list.

    “Today’s announcement puts power and information into the hands of our communities by helping them better understand the role and potential dangers of firearms within our state,” Bonta said of the dashboard.

    Go Fuck Yourself.

    Also, Paul Krugman can go fuck himself.

    • Count Potato

      “She shot me down.”

      You miss 100% of the the shots you don’t take.

      “I will go out on a limb here and predict that the Heat Death of the Universe will happen before we see their client list.”

      She is already on suicide watch.

      • Tonio

        Well, they can’t keep her on that forever.

        Purely as a thought exercise — say you were an older inmate with at least a decade or two left on your sentence, unlikely to get parole, and developing health issues that pretty much ensure you’ll die while still a prisoner. And one day you have a visit from your new lawyer who you don’t remember hiring, and the lawyer offers you something you want — money for your family, the convenient death of someone on the outside, whatever. And all you have to do is get into a fight with a fellow inmate and make sure you kill her or that she suffers severe brain damage…

      • UnCivilServant

        You stab the lawyer because that kind tends to also take out at least the first round of assassins.

      • AlexinCT

        Yeah, they sent her to prison instead of having her too die from suicide because two in a row would make it too hard for them to keep pretending it was not by design.

      • Grumbletarian

        She is already on suicide watch.

        Lately that seems to mean someone is watching to see how long it takes her to kill herself.

      • UnCivilServant

        There’s at least a few betting pools going.

    • Pope Jimbo

      On the Maxwell/Epstein note, I will go out on a limb here and predict that the Heat Death of the Universe will happen before we see their client list.

      I don’t know. If some govt IT group is charged with preserving that list somewhere, there is a 50/50 chance it gets exposed on some public web server. (90-10 that it is stolen by Chinese hackers).

      • UnCivilServant

        Your odds are off. There’s a 100% chance it’s already in the hands of foreign nationals.

    • Winston's Mom

      She shot me down.

      That bitch

    • Nephilium

      I’ve still got three more days (counting today), but next week is only a three day work week for me thanks to Punk in Drublic being next Friday.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve requested to use the comp time I acquired last week to try to make a 3.5 day weekend, but I haven’t heard back yet.

        If I’m not declined by friday, I’m taking the shorter day.

    • PieInTheSky

      5 day weekend! – and you call Europeans lazy

      • UnCivilServant

        For Euros isn’t a five day weekend just A Weekend?

        We only get them once in a blue moon.

      • PieInTheSky

        They are rather rare in fact

    • Not Adahn

      *golf clap*

    • Q Continuum

      The actions performed, they were observed.

    • Zwak, who counted all his blessings, and counted only one.

      They might rain on his parade.

      • Compelled Speechless

        No matter what he tells you, that’s not rain.

  9. AlexinCT

    No shit, now quit losing my money cunt!

    What investment advice do you working ladies have for us shlubs trying to do a regular 9-5 job, Winston’s mom?

    • Nephilium

      Plan B pills as trade goods?

      • AlexinCT

        That’s one way to diversify, I tell ya…

    • Winston's Mom

      Dry goods, liquor, cigarettes, prophylaxis..

  10. Q Continuum

    “I’m totally jealous of her tits by the way, get a load of these things!”

    The interwebz says she wears a 34D which looks about right. Crossing the border into Q territory.

  11. Count Potato

    “BREAKING NEWS: FDA recommends new COVID-19 shots to target Omicron with jabs expected to rollout in October”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10962801/FDA-panel-recommends-new-COVID-19-shots-target-Omicron-variant.html

    “Anthony Fauci says that he’s experienced rebound Covid symptoms after taking a Pfizer’s antiviral Paxlovid – which studies now show is NOT effective for people who are vaccinated”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10963301/Anthony-Fauci-says-hes-experienced-rebound-Covid-symptoms-Paxlovid-course.html

    Maybe they should just stick to boner pills.

    • PieInTheSky

      I have my schedule. 2 flue shots 2 covid vaxxes and one for dengue fever just for the hell of it

      • Sean

        Do you get a punch card? How many shots get you a free sandwich?

      • PieInTheSky

        5 vaxx and you get a free enema

      • AlexinCT

        Coffee or yogurt?

    • Rebel Scum

      Aren’t we hundreds if not thousands of viral generations from omicron?

      These cuntes are not serious.

      • R C Dean

        They are dead serious about making money.

      • Sean

        I feel like you deserve a 🏆 for that comment.

      • Compelled Speechless

        That’s what I was going to say. They’re getting so lazy about trying to scare me that they can’t even be bothered pick a new letter from the Greek alphabet? They had such a zeal for making the elderly and soccer moms irrationally terrified before. It’s kind of sad to see them losing their sense of purpose.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Maybe they should just stick to boner pills.

      You know the saying “when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail”?

      Well what do you think a bureaucrat with priapism will think when you looks at your taxpaying asshole?

  12. Not Adahn

    Geez I thought the “private tutor” scenario was just in porn. Thirteen year old me would have.

    • PieInTheSky

      this kind of double standard is harmful to boys.

    • Fourscore

      Is it rape if the younger male is in complete agreement?

      “Just don’t tell your Mom?”

      Or older brother/friends

    • AlexinCT

      I feel for this 13 year old. It was a horrible experience for me when my (older) baby sitter got caught and I had to wait from 11 to 16 to again get me some of that….

      • Tres Cool

        Do you still hear from him ?

      • AlexinCT

        Your momma!

      • AlexinCT

        And I did hear about her… She was getting divorced around the same time I did some 12 years ago. Seems her husband caught her with the 17 year old neighbor boy that mowed their lawn or cleaned their pool or something…

  13. Count Potato

    “I think there’s clear evidence that the current murder spike was caused primarily by the 2020 BLM protests. The timing matches the protests well, and the pandemic poorly. The spike is concentrated in black communities and not in any of the other communities affected by the pandemic. It matches homicide spikes corresponding to other anti-police protests, most notably in the cities where those protests happened but to a lesser degree around the country. And the spike seems limited to the US, while other countries had basically stable murder rates over the same period.”

    https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/what-caused-the-2020-homicide-spike

    So Black Lives Matter decreased black lives.

    • ruodberht

      Steve Sailer’s been saying that for months.

      • AlexinCT

        Are they still desperately working hard to punish anyone pointing out BLM was a dnc sponsored marxist crime syndicate entity that served to do team blue’s dirty work while the leadership stole money from the idiots that donated to it?

    • kbolino

      There’s another problem with the pandemic cause theory which is that a smaller uptick already occurred before. The so-called Ferguson Effect can’t possibly be confounded by a pandemic.

      • Count Potato

        That’s also in the article.

      • kbolino

        Fair enough. I’ve soured on Scott Alexander re: COVID. If he writes an article about how everything since March 2020 has been total bullshit, I’ll reconsider.

  14. Not Adahn

    I was squadding up for the ME state championship and I noticed a couple named “Kaylee” and “Mason.” I was mentally mocking them until I saw one of them with a “G” in the class field.

    • Tonio

      Could you decode that for us?

      • slumbrew

        Look at Tonio, who doesn’t understand that stuff!

        *chuckles nervously*

      • Nephilium

        From previous posting, and the vagaries of my brain, I would lean towards that G meaning Grandmaster (really good at pew pew while moving).

      • slumbrew

        Ah, I was thinking ‘Gangsta’ and that they shot with their guns sideways.

      • UnCivilServant

        Two guns, 90 degrees off true, angled towards each other, at least a minimum amount of bling.

      • Endless Mike

        Gangsta Doesn’t necessarily mean best technique

      • Pope Jimbo

        I was thinking that Not Adahn was excited about a woman in a G-spot.

      • Not Adahn

        She’s “just” an A shooter.

      • cyto

        8

      • EvilSheldon

        Mason might be Mason Lane, who is…somewhat more than a mere Grandmaster.

      • Not Adahn

        It’s Kaylee Lane now, at least according to Practiscore.

      • EvilSheldon

        Awwwwww…

      • Not Adahn

        Neph got it. It’s amazing how a teeny bit of information can bring down your whole stereotyping.

      • Not Adahn

        USPSA ranks:

        G M A B C D

      • UnCivilServant

        No E and F?

        I’m disappointed that my repeated failure to show hasn’t been recorded.

      • Not Adahn

        Anything below B is just untermenchen anyway. C is an “aww, you tried!” class.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Dropping Cali into the sea seems a bit much. Couldn’t we just give it to the Chinese or something?

      • UnCivilServant

        And give them a staging area to launch a ground invasion?

        No, I’d sooner see it reduced to nuclear slag and sunk to the seabed than give it up!

    • PieInTheSky

      suck his cock while your at it if you are repressing things anyway

    • AlexinCT

      Slut ready to bloom her sluttiness…

  15. PieInTheSky

    Boris Johnson: Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if he were a woman

    Prime minister says Russian president’s gender a contributory factor to Ukraine invasion

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/29/boris-johnson-claims-putin-would-not-have-invaded-ukraine-if-he-was-a-woman

    Boris Johnson has claimed that Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if he was a woman and believes that the war is a “perfect example of toxic masculinity”.

    Boris seemed a bit of a chad before election, how the fuck did he get this cucked? I am trying to use the alt right lingo did I get it right?

    • UnCivilServant

      For a man named Boris, he seems woefully ignorant of the type of woman that would have survived in the career Vlad had.

      • AlexinCT

        Exactly, that woman would have nuked half of Europe.

      • SDF-7

        Certainly would have barebacked a horse a bit differently…. we know that much.

    • Ted S.

      Probably his wife/girlfriend.

    • Rebel Scum

      He would have invaded Ukraine and the rest of eastern Europe if he were a woman.

    • Endless Mike

      “There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.”?

      • AlexinCT

        You should look up that concept of Angel of mercy nurses…..

        Women are just a lot less brutal about their murderous desires…

  16. Rebel Scum

    The California Attorney General’s Office leaked the named and addresses of thousands of gun owners across the state, The Reload reported Tuesday.

    Do you want more gun crime?

    • Q Continuum

      Only if those crimes involve victimless, procedural ones levied against otherwise law-abiding gun owners so you have an excuse to lock them up.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, them Sacramento shooters, they are just misunderstood yutes.

    • Winston's Mom

      Yes

    • JasonAZ

      Huh. I just cannot understand why gun owners don’t want to register their guns. Real head scratcher.

  17. AlexinCT

    I am still unsure if this idiocy was done because she simply didn’t realize their could be consequences to being this stupid/evil, or was she expecting that in today’s environment where leftist cuntes can get away with criminality while the other side gets railroaded under false charges constantly, that she would not have to worry. And she is not alone in doing this sort of idiocy on social media. Virtue signaling is seriously a sign of a mental disorder with leftists.

    • Tonio

      This is just the tip of the iceberg. She’s merely the first person to get caught. And it’s not just life-enhancing things like Viagra; if you pay attention to the leftists they are starting to talk about “medical justice.” IOW, you as an older white person will suffer denial or delay of actual life-saving medical treatment because black people were historically denied that.

      • Q Continuum

        The Hippocratic Oath is a living document! Hippocrates couldn’t possibly have known about the existence of advanced cancer treatment! We have to evolve with the times! Besides he was a white slave owner (didn’t everyone own slaves in those days?)!

      • AlexinCT

        I have been telling people that were always talking about socialized government controlled healthcare being a right and what we need that after the way government handled medical decisions – the life & death kind – during the Kung Flu purely through the political lens of social justice (meaning my team vs. yours), that they might want to rethink the whole concept. Do you think unelected & unaccountable government bureaucracies, after showing us that they care more about their own dynamics and political advantage, wouldn’t basically be petty entities where the decision makers would do whatever tickled their fancy or hurt their enemies?

        They are all pissed off and refuse to discuss the subject the moment I bring that back up when they get going on how bad for profit healthcare is….

      • DEG

        I’m reading this book. There’s lots of talk of big hospitals doing what NIH/NIAID/CDC say.

        I see that as just a variation of what this woman claimed to do.

    • Count Potato

      Article doesn’t say how she would know if they are conservative.

      • juris imprudent

        They wouldn’t be watching The View?

    • Q Continuum

      How does she know who they vote for? Is that a question in the medical history?

      • AlexinCT

        You can ask them if they support the patriarchy, and unless they get all bent out of shape and demand a soy latte to calm down after that horrible accusation, you know they are evil?

    • AlexinCT

      That’s gonna leave a mark?

  18. Rebel Scum

    UK Police Now Investigating Playground Insults

    You got a loisance for dat juvenile banter, mate?

    • UnCivilServant

      So… you won’t investigate rape cases for fear of being called racist, but will harass children for being children?

      • Plisade

        Harassing kids has got to be the easiest way for a cop to “do something.”

  19. Rebel Scum

    Lead Secret Service Agent Will Testify Trump Did Not Try to Commandeer Car on January 6

    This farce has gotten more absurd than I originally thought it would.

    • Nephilium

      Just wait until you find out that Trump had installed a remote control in the secret service limo, and was controlling it from the back seat this whole time.

      • juris imprudent

        He only had to press one button and the Beast would locate the nearest McDonalds drive-thru.

    • UnCivilServant

      “Anything that goes against our policy proscriptions is anti-democratic. Update your newspeak dictionary, bigot.”

    • PieInTheSky

      it seems pretty clear to me

      • AlexinCT

        Cause you are an oppressor?

    • Rebel Scum

      More voting is less democratic. Or something.

      • UnCivilServant

        Voting which does not result in their desired outcome is less democratic.

      • banginglc1

        Democracy=Controlling others through force . . .duh

  20. Count Potato

    “A Title IX officer told me she thought of her job as running “The Break Up Office.”Many students didn’t want to navigate relationships.Instead they got the message they could recast any sexual experience as malign and then report it to school authorities.”

    https://twitter.com/EmilyYoffe/status/1541786331461853185

    “Biden’s Sex Police
    The White Houses’s new regulations will gut due-process rights for college students accused of sexual misconduct…

    During his vice presidency, Joe Biden was the Obama administration’s point man for a major domestic initiative: ending sexual assault on campus. There is no question bad, sometimes criminal, sexual behavior occurs on campus. Eliminating it is a worthy, if elusive, goal. But the Obama-Biden mandate expanded the definition of sexual misconduct so broadly that jokes, flirting, or “any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature,” could be punishable offenses.

    The Obama administration set out to change campus culture, and it did. But in doing so, it undermined women, demonized men, and diverted vast resources away from education. Under rules promulgated by Betsy DeVos, Secretary of Education under Trump, many of these policies were rolled back. The Biden administration now plans to restore much of this.”

    https://www.commonsense.news/p/bidens-sex-police

    Biden was also behind the VAWA.

    • AlexinCT

      College is a place where you can cause significant mental damage to weak-minded idiots that tend to not realize it is a horrible idea to waste piles of money learning nothing of value, and make them perpetual wards of the nanny state.

      • juris imprudent

        Dude, careful, that kind of talk is going to cause erections in leftist circles like triple-strength viagra.

      • AlexinCT

        It certainly would explain why they keep telling these poor kids that it is a great idea to rack up debt that would give a mortgage a run for the money to go study whatever they are “passionate” about (meaning the shit that will take the least amount of effort so they can focus on partying)….

    • Q Continuum

      No more orgies at the frat house.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Meanwhile he engages in pervy behavior he’s condemn. What a douchebag.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      A good friend of mine in college slept with a girl while she was on a break with her boyfriend. My friend made it clear he wasn’t looking for a relationship. Girl’s exish boyfriend found out and she freaked when he wouldn’t get back together with her because of it.

      Then the girl claimed my friend raped her so it wasn’t her fault. Not rape-rape but rape-light… like taking advantage of her (it was college, they were of course both drinking). And never mind the nice text messages she had sent him the next day. My friend had to lawyer up immediately and he got lucky she didn’t press charges. I’d say she declined to press because she was felt guilty about being full of shit, but we’ve seen that hasn’t stopped many others.

      • AlexinCT

        Anyone that has one of these experiences of being unjustly accused and doesn’t lawyer up and immediately threatens the institution with a multi million dollar lawsuit, is an idiot.

      • UnCivilServant

        Any effort by the school to adjudicate these should be met with a lawsuit.

        If there was rape, report it to the police. If there was regret, live and learn.

      • juris imprudent

        Hell, my son when he was an under-grad had some girlfriend who’s mother came onto him. When he broke up with her there were accusations and we immediately got a lawyer involved and announced that we had the entire record of text messages between the two of them – suddenly everything blew over. That was his first lesson about sticking it in crazy; he would ultimately have to learn that lesson a second time for it to stick, but that’s another story.

      • UnCivilServant

        first lesson about sticking it in crazy

        Use a fake name, a burner phone, and never, ever bring her someplace you’d be recognized?

      • juris imprudent

        Oh it was going to be a Title IX farce, but real evidence shut it down.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Wood explained that supply-chain issues had led to major retailers to mismanage their inventories, leading to a glut of certain finished goods, like furniture, that were in high demand during the pandemic. Even “the best-managed companies in the world” are having problems she said. She added that the surge in inventories seen over the past year has been larger than anything she has seen during her 45-year career.

    They can’t afford nice new furniture because they’re spending all their money on gas and groceries.

  22. Rebel Scum

    Key point: the Fed should not slam the brakes because of phantom inflation fears

    The massive cost increase you are experiencing are a figment of your imagination.

    • UnCivilServant

      Ghosts are still as inexpensive as they’ve ever been!

    • SDF-7

      “Don’t worry — I can see it too…”

  23. trshmnstr the terrible

    Lost on a 50/50 for the top left. Got really lucky on the 4th guess. I was going for bottom right but got top right.
    Daily Quordle 156
    7️⃣4️⃣
    3️⃣5️⃣

    I need to tune up QB’s word value algorithm. It’s taking too many impossible combinations into account, which leads to suboptimal guesses in the 3-5 range. Once it gets down to 5 available words or less, it doesn’t matter anymore, but I’ve noticed a weakness in the word choices for guesses 3-5 for a while now.
    QB
    5 6
    2 7

    • Grumbletarian

      Daily Quordle 156
      9️⃣4️⃣
      8️⃣5️⃣

      Horrible.

      • robc

        x9
        68

        I think I just rage quit quordle. My problem was I failed to notice a letter I had gotten for bottom right, which cost me two turns at least.

      • robc

        Bottom left, I am too upset to get directions correct.

      • one true athena

        Daily Quordle 156
        4️⃣6️⃣
        5️⃣7️⃣

    • JG43

      Daily Quordle 156
      6️⃣7️⃣
      9️⃣8️⃣
      quordle.com

      Barely

      • robc

        A perfect 30 is a proud achievement, IMO.

        I got one the other day.

    • pistoffnick

      X 3
      X 4

      • MikeS

        You got a MikeS! I’m so proud of you!

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Daily Quordle 156
      8️⃣5️⃣
      4️⃣6️⃣
      quordle.com
      Same with the 50/50 UL still can’t get below 4 on the first one.

    • MikeS

      8️⃣4️⃣
      5️⃣6️⃣

    • Ozymandias

      Daily Quordle 156
      7️⃣4️⃣
      3️⃣5️⃣
      quordle.com

      Sub-20; I’ll take it.

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      Meh. Right on the Tundra Line:

      Daily Quordle 156
      7️⃣4️⃣
      5️⃣6️⃣
      quordle.com

    • kinnath

      Daily Quordle 156
      7️⃣5️⃣
      3️⃣4️⃣

      So, this week we have a 20, a chump, and a 19. Tomorrow is looking grim.

    • Grummun

      8 4
      6 5

    • grrizzly

      Daily Quordle 156
      6️⃣4️⃣
      7️⃣5️⃣

    • TARDis

      Daily Quordle 156
      8️⃣6️⃣
      4️⃣7️⃣

  24. Gender Traitor

    Just got done getting temp crowns on a couple of lower back teeth. So far so good. ::fist bumps ‘patzie, who’s been there done that:: ::also fist bumps RoaT re: the smell of burning tooth:: 😳🦷🔥

    • UnCivilServant

      Have they stopped burning?

      • Gender Traitor

        Finally, after a mouthful of that fire extinguisher stuff. Boy does that taste nasty! 😝🧯

    • DEG

      Good.

      After I get back from FreedomFest, I get to have some crowns replaced. Yay.

      • Gender Traitor

        ::fist bumps DEG👊::

    • Ownbestenemy

      I need to get my wisdoms removed. My orthodontist back in thr day did a great job of ensuring they were good but it’s time…

    • UnCivilServant

      Sooo…. rather than tasty fried chicken a syrup, they put boiled skinless chiocken and white gravy on the waffle?

      • Nephilium

        Looks to me like a creamed chicken topping a waffle instead of another starchy goodness (such as dumplings).

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      To be fair, chicken and waffles in any form is rank.

    • mock-star

      You need to try it. Shredded Chicken on waffles, with a cream and chicken stock based gravy. Best served with mashed potatoes and stuffing, because diabetes.

      • PieInTheSky

        what is wrong with chicken and nice mixed greens salad

      • Sean

        It’s not steak.

    • Not Adahn

      There’s a similar dish called “chicken and biscuits” here.

      • PieInTheSky

        no there isn’t. I looked twice

      • Not Adahn

        It is a yummy breakfast when it’s cold.

      • Not Adahn

        The weather being cold. Not the chicken and biscuits. Those should be hot. To counterbalance the cold weather you see.

      • PieInTheSky

        is there beer?

      • Not Adahn

        Can be, depending on the establishment and the day/time combination, yes.

  25. PieInTheSky

    The UK is now ranked fourteenth on LGBTQ+ rights in Europe, having been ranked first in 2015. There is a trans moral panic. Anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes are rising. We are still waiting for conversion practices to be banned. Three of the many reasons it’s

    https://twitter.com/philipcbaldwin/status/1542039349558124547

    I am sure those ranking are objective. And I am sure the rising crime has nothing to do with certain immigrants.

      • Nephilium

        /kicks rock

        At least the link still works.

    • Count Potato

      Now do the Middle East.

  26. Rebel Scum

    That can’t happen in Canada.

    Police say two suspects are dead, and six members of the Greater Victoria Emergency Response Team are in the hospital following an exchange of gunfire at a bank in Saanich, B.C., on Tuesday.

    Officers were called when two armed men believed to be wearing body armour entered a bank on Shelbourne Street at approximately 11 a.m Tuesday.

    In a media briefing Tuesday afternoon, Saanich police Chief Dean Duthie said the shooting started when the suspects left the bank, creating a situation that was very dangerous for the public.

    “I don’t know who fired first at this point. But there were multiple gunshots that were fired. And where we’re at, I don’t know.”

    • AlexinCT

      Will someone not save us from those bank robbing guns???

      • blighted_non_millenial

        Canadian body armor ban in 3.. 2.. 1..

      • Sean

        I’m amazed it isn’t already.

      • blighted_non_millenial

        Very well may be and these are just right wing NAZIS flouting Canada’s common sense laws.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, imagine the gall of bank robbers to flout the law like that.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Canada needs common sense banking laws.

    • EvilSheldon

      Sounds aboot like Heat, eh?

  27. PieInTheSky

    Anglo Respecter 40K 🇸🇪🤝🇰🇵
    @Tinkzorg
    the destruction of this entire class of people, drowned in the cold waters of general economic depression, will be humanity’s dearest achievement during the 21st century.

    https://twitter.com/Tinkzorg/status/1541875731390730241

    to be fair the american chickprobably consume a north korean family’s worth of calories in the video

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, but NK is a socially just place!

  28. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “get a load of these things”
    The best that hush money can buy I’d imagine. Now where’s that client list?

  29. Rebel Scum

    Go for it.

    Now is her moment. The Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe vs. Wade creates the opening for Hillary Clinton to get out of stealth mode and start down the path toward declaring her candidacy for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination.

    • AlexinCT

      VOTE FOR ANOTHER OLD PUPPET (this one is a spawn of the old ones however)!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      She oughtta run , truly a God amongst women…so charismatic, so moral…

      • AlexinCT

        They had to invent a Russia collusion plot to mitigate the fact most people saw her as a criminal that got off because otherwise Obama and a lot of the Obama admin members would have gone down in flames with her if she was prosecuted for her criminality. I wonder what they will invent this time….

    • PieInTheSky

      the border is wide open – people would not be dying in trucks if that were true. it is not quite wide

    • Rebel Scum

      I’ve never seen anything like the Democrat obsession with Donald Trump. He broke their brains. He’s been out of office for 18 months — the entire country has gone to shit with Joe Biden in office & Democrat control of the House & Senate — and yet it’s still all Trump. Wild.

      Trump is the cartoon villain that Dems need.

      • AlexinCT

        They sure as hell are working overtime to convince people that he is…

  30. Sean

    #HumbleBrag

    I’ve hired multiple new employees in the past couple weeks.

    • PieInTheSky

      just to fire them when the recession is at it’s deepest? evil. I like it.

      • Sean

        Nope. We’re recession proof.

      • UnCivilServant

        What percent is that by volume?

      • banginglc1

        Mortuary?

  31. Sean

    I’m not too proud of this, though.

    #waffle159 0/5

    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    🔥 streak: 10
    🏆 #waffleelite
    wafflegame.net

    • AlexinCT

      You can’t fool me! That’s a Kangaroo!

    • Tundra

      Awwww.

      Sweet pups. Thanks, Holiness!

    • UnCivilServant

      The wall of text having to explain what they were trying to do with the borrowed template says no.

      When you put together that particular template, you need to use something recognizable.

      • UnCivilServant

        Though the people telling her to delete it for racist reasons are the only amusing thing on that link.

      • PieInTheSky

        I mean the use of that template is pretty standard here no wall of text

      • UnCivilServant

        Scroll down for the text.

        The screed follows. Because the poster realized a ton of people are not going to recognise the fictional characters chosen.

      • PieInTheSky

        lol. I did not scroll down. I did not realize there was a long text explanation 🙂

  32. Brawndo

    If you let everyone know the addresses of everyone with a (legal) gun, by the process of elimination you are letting everyone know which houses are safe to rob.

    • AlexinCT

      I hope this is exactly how it plays out…

    • JasonAZ

      Good call. However, expecting progressives to think through their emotional tantrums is NOT going to happen.

    • UnCivilServant

      What the fuck is a ‘limb difference’? Chaos mutant with tentacle arms?

      • AlexinCT

        Japanese Glibs hardest hit?

      • Rebel Scum

        Missing a limb. And those uniforms are awful.

      • R.J.

        Looks like psychedelic ship camouflage.

      • Grumbletarian

        Think Jim Abbot the former professional baseball pitcher.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m going to go out on a limb and guess it is when you can play “One of these things isn’t like the others” with your own arms and legs?

    • blighted_non_millenial

      50% less hands calls.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        25%*

    • The Other Kevin

      I’m not using that term. In my sport you’re a double amp, single amp, you have legs, you’re an able body.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Hearsay, schmearsy, we’ll allow it

    Donald Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of his presidential limousine on Jan. 6, 2021, when his security detail declined to take him to the U.S. Capitol where his supporters were rioting, a former aide testified on Tuesday.

    The then-president dismissed concerns that some supporters gathered for his fiery speech outside the White House that day carried AR-15-style rifles, instead asking security to stop screening attendees with metal-detecting magnetometers so the crowd would look larger, the aide testified.

    “Take the effing mags away; they’re not here to hurt me,” Cassidy Hutchinson, who was a top aide to Trump’s then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, quoted Trump as saying that morning.

    Hutchinson, in testimony on the sixth day of House of Representatives hearings into the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol assault by Trump’s followers, said the conversation was relayed to her by Tony Ornato, a senior Secret Service official who was Trump’s deputy chief of staff for operations.

    They probably had to call a recess so the kangaroos could compose themselves and get a change of panties, after that.

    • AlexinCT

      Except for the fact the Secret Service volunteered to testify, under oath (something none of the clowns that are part of this reality TeeVee shit are doing), that never happened. I am going on a limb that based on how hard these asshats are trying to ignore that offer from the Secret Service, or the news this was offered, that the whole thing is gonna do nothing for them.

    • Rebel Scum

      some supporters gathered for his fiery speech outside the White House that day carried AR-15-style rifles

      I listened. I watched. I saw no evidence of this presented. No one was arrested with weapons. No one got a weapons charge. I have several bridges in Alaska to sell to anyone that believes a word of this nonsense.

    • Pope Jimbo

      get a change of panties, after that.

      Way more than that. They had to bring in drip buckets

    • R C Dean

      In the interest of old-fashioned factual accuracy, I would note that video of Trump’s ride that day shows that it was not the Presidential limo, it was an SUV. So the difficulty of a passenger in the limo getting to the driver/steering wheel (which I am among many others pointed out yesterday) does not apply.

      Of course, its still a fairy tale. As is the assault rifle toting attendees at his speech (until I see photographic/video evidence, at least).

      • slumbrew

        Ah, thanks for the clarification.

        Does the SS not insist on The Beast?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Probably not in DC. They have other assets available in the district.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Nope. We’re recession proof.

    I didn’t know you were a mortician.

    • SDF-7

      He’s the coffin maker with Trump on one side, Biden on the other… and us smack in the middle?

    • Sean

      We’re pretty safe. If we don’t make it through, almost no small business will.

      • Swiss Servator

        “Challenge finubinated, Fat”

        /Biden

  35. Toxteth O'Grady

    Britain (England, really) used to be a hell of a good country once. Ah cahn’t understand wot’s gone wrong wif it.

    • PieInTheSky

      same as with anything. collectivism in all its forms.

      • kbolino

        Was it not “collectivism” that built the British Empire in the first place?

        “For God, King, and Country” is not exactly an individualist motto.

      • AlexinCT

        Yeah, but the only people that got to collect shit were the rulership class…

        Wait a minute…

      • PieInTheSky

        the economy that supported that was pretty liberal for its time and that enabled the empire

      • kbolino

        The British economy is still pretty liberal. It seems to me their ambitions atrophied. Instead of ruling the world, they’d rather be coddled by the NHS.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    “‘I’m the effing president. Take me up to the Capitol now,'” Hutchinson quoted an enraged Trump as saying. She said Trump tried from the back seat to grab the steering wheel of the heavily armored presidential vehicle and lunged in anger at a Secret Service official.

    Trump, a Republican, denied her account of his actions.

    *outright prolonged laughter*

    I can see Trump pulling the “I’m the President and you’re supposed to do what I want” card. I mean, who wouldn’t?

    • kbolino

      Even if this asinine allegation is true, does that mean I’m supposed to view the Secret Service as the Praetorian Guard? Like, it’s the job of the guys who “protect the President” to actually decide what he’s allowed to do?

      • Not Adahn

        Why not? It’s what Biden’s handlers do, and he’s the most competent president evah!

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I’m surprised he didn’t hang a noose around the rearview mirror and yell “this is MAGA country.”

    • Urthona

      I mean….. even if this were true and not the obviously false product of a kangaroo court…. who cares?

      • kbolino

        The usurper should have known his place

  37. Tundra

    Good morning, WM!

    Sorry you had to watch soccer. I hope you charged a lot extra for that torture.

    Ghislaine Maxwell (and her tits) get 20 years for sexually abusing and trafficking young girls while Ross Ulbricht is gonna die in prison. Seems a little fucked up.

    Daryl Cooper’s series on the Epstein saga is amazing. I’m about halfway through and just learned a bunch about Ghislaine’s old man. The whole story is rotten with intelligence agencies and governments. WIld.

    Here’s one for Krugnuts.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Poor Ross. Writing to him would probably get one placed on A List.

    • PieInTheSky

      yeah but unimportant young girls. randos.

    • R C Dean

      What I can’t figure out is:

      All of her records were sealed to protect the privacy of the “victims”. Leaving aside that some of them had already gone public,

      (1) Since when do we refuse to prosecute people to protect the victims? Doesn’t that seem backwards?

      (2) Couldn’t the names of the victims be redacted?

      (3) Isn’t this convicting someone based on secret evidence, which is a violation of due process?

      • slumbrew

        Well, this case is different because shut up!

      • juris imprudent

        All of the procedural shit we’re ignoring – warm up for the Assange trial.

    • AlexinCT

      That looks like a parade of sex trafficker’s merchandise…

      • AlexinCT

        Che catzo?

  38. Rebel Scum

    Bret, you dishonest cunte.

    “She had another, obviously, another session behind the scenes with the committee they are playing the sound bites from and realized the power of this testimony. Perhaps politically, in the wake of Roe v. Wade and everything else to keep January 6 on the front burner. Bottom line, the testimony is stunning, and we are going to likely hear from the former president and his reaction to all of this, in one way or another. But you also have other officials, Pat Cipollone, former White House counsel. You have others who are weighing in here, behind the scenes through her testimony. Listen, I think it does move the ball in this hearing.”

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Nobody but TMITE and their drones care about this. Seriously, I don’t think the average person even knows this crap is happening.

      • AlexinCT

        This reality TeeVee shit is a desperate attempt by the people that have nothing positive to offer to the country to make things better, and need a villain they can all hate to gather the usual moorlochs.

    • kbolino

      Even if nothing comes of this, they are being way too transparent about trying to set up a(nother) coup here.

    • Tundra

      Boss.

      Full service, too.

    • Winston's Mom

      $1.29 for gas…on the east coast!?

      I need a cigarette

    • slumbrew

      That had to be wildly uncomfortable for a guy his size.

      I pictured him driving a gaudy Roller

  39. Rebel Scum

    We’re overdue for a major European war anyway.

    NATO continues to revel in collective delusion and pretend that it can change the outcome in Ukraine. That was demonstrated today by the fanfare surrounding the news that Turkey will no longer block Sweden and Finland from joining the crew of the Titanic. On Monday (June 27), NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg announced NATO would boost its troops on the western border near Russia: …

    The 300,000 man NATO force is not going to be deployed in a single formation in one location. The force will be dispersed along Ukraine’s border, which stretches from Romania to Poland. In addition, NATO will probably put some troops in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. But that dispersion of forces means all you have are trip wires or speed bumps in the event Russia decided to launch a ground invasion of one or more of the NATO countries nearest to Russia. Russia is not going to do that, even if those NATO forces initiate military operations that threaten Russian troops in Ukraine or Moldova.

    Russia has demonstrated forcefully during the last four months that it can and will use hyper-sonic missiles to hit targets where troops and munitions are located. NATO is simply trying to poking a caged Bear with a stick and hoping it does not strike back. This is beyond foolish. It is dangerous.

    • kbolino

      Considering that the last two World Wars worked out very well for the progressive cause in the end, why wouldn’t they go for the Triple Crown?

    • R C Dean

      But that dispersion of forces means all you have are trip wires or speed bumps in the event Russia decided to launch a ground invasion of one or more of the NATO countries nearest to Russia.

      Based on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I’m not sure you need more than a speed bump. The Russians apparently suck at maneuver, and need an established front they can deploy heavy artillery to in order to advance.

      Russia has demonstrated forcefully during the last four months that it can and will use hyper-sonic missiles to hit targets

      I’m not sure what counts as a “hypersonic” missile. Have the Russians actually deployed a new technology in Ukraine? I really don’t know, but I am reflexively suspicious of any reporting on the Ukraine war.

  40. hayeksplosives

    This has to be the most UK thing since they decided to go all 6’s and 7’s and tell the dirty bloger to drive a lorry up their arse before shating upon turtles or something.

    All the best Brits left the islands and came to America in the 17th-19th centuries.

    • juris imprudent

      And the worst went to Australia. 😉

    • Surly Knott

      Terry Pratchett is a sterling counter example.

      • Urthona

        was

      • Surly Knott

        Well, at least we still have Tolkien.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    At the end of about two hours of testimony, Representative Liz Cheney, one of two Republicans on the nine-member House panel, presented possible evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

    Cheney showed messages to unidentified witnesses advising them that an unidentified person would be watching their testimony closely and expecting loyalty.

    Irrefutable. It’s an open and shut case.

    • juris imprudent

      JFC – this is sinking below junior high cafeteria gossip.

    • R C Dean

      Cheney showed messages to unidentified witnesses advising them that an unidentified person would be watching their testimony closely and expecting loyalty.

      Sounds like those could have come from the J6 Committee members themselves.

  42. Pope Jimbo

    The most amazing thing to me about the 1/6 Show Trial is that the sole purpose is to stop Trump from being able to run again. They will use any excuse to keep him off the ballot because they are terrified that he will win again and really fuck up The Narrative.

    Yet…. This is happening. WTF? I’ve said it here before, but once more: I will listen to arguments that there is some secret reason for bouncing Trump only after you have a similar committee ban Hillary from running again for all her well documented and proven crimes.

    Now is her moment. The Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe vs. Wade creates the opening for Hillary Clinton to get out of stealth mode and start down the path toward declaring her candidacy for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination.

    • kbolino

      “Stealth mode Hillary Clinton”

      Two thoughts:

      1. Prime SugarFree material
      2. I’m reminded of when they kept saying Obama was reluctant to speak out against his successor, just like when he spoke out against him the week before

    • Gender Traitor

      Stopping Trump isn’t its sole purpose. It’s also pour encourager les autres.

      • juris imprudent

        It’s about putting the deplorables back in their place – quiet and subservient.

      • AlexinCT

        The unaccountable and unelected weaponized Obama era bureaucratic machine, needs the serfs to know that they are expected to comply and not to rattle their cages…

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        pour décourager.

    • Grumbletarian

      3. There is no bench. I made this point in a subscriber note last December. Others did as well. Nothing has changed since then. If anything, veteran Democrats are even more pessimistic about Kamala Harris as a potential presidential nominee. As for the others, former Vice President Al Gore is probably the party’s best bet. He has indicated zero interest in running.

      That leaves former Secretary of State John Kerry, Senators Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, California Governor Gavin Newsom and….maybe….possibly….an outsider like Sheryl Sandberg (ex-Facebook COO) or Bob Iger (ex-Disney CEO).

      That’s the field. When describing it, the word “formidable” does not spring to mind. Nor do the words “up to it.”

      No mention of Michelle Obama or Stacey Fields? Racist and misogynistic!

      • kbolino

        Do you mean Stacey Abrams?

      • Grumbletarian

        Derp, yes.

      • Surly Knott

        But surprisingly close to rational.

      • juris imprudent

        Democrats are even more pessimistic about Kamala Harris as a potential presidential nominee

        Already handled the racist/misogynist angle.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      The most amazing thing to me about the 1/6 Show Trial is that the sole purpose is to stop Trump from being able to run again. They will use any excuse to keep him off the ballot because they are terrified that he will win again and really fuck up The Narrative.

      I doubt they care if he runs again. The election will just be rigged again by the Cathedral to make sure he loses.

      It’s what GT and JI are saying, punishing Trump to send a message to anyone doesn’t support their corrupt system. Same as with January 6 political prisoners. The relevancy of Trump is about the same as January 6th really being an attempt at violently overthrow of the government. In other words, the Cathedral is just as scared of Trump as they are of the J6 prisoners.

    • R C Dean

      I think its more than keeping Trump off the ballot. I think its battlespace prep for treating Republicans generally as anti-American insurgents or somesuch, and pushing the whole Team Red fundraising wing off the stage.

      • AlexinCT

        Exactly, it’s about making not accepting whatever the machine tells you is reality, criminal and punishable… Cause then everyone must accept whatever bullshit sammich they are told to eat and then tell everyone else how much of a culinary delight it is to eat it…

      • banginglc1

        I think it’s all the things mentioned above. Keep outsiders in their place, keep deplorables in their place, keep Trump off the ballot so the cheating doesn’t have to be as blatant and won’t be called out by the only non-squishy R, battlespace prep, everything else.

        They hate competition and they want it suppressed by any means imaginable.

      • juris imprudent

        pushing the whole Team Red fundraising wing off the stage

        Yeah, not much of a plan. That sucker is in overdrive now – put a real threat to it and watch how that is backlashed at the threat.

  43. UnCivilServant

    I think I’ve figured out where beer went off the rails.

    Some poor German was wandering around a brewhouse trying to get a drink, and the bewers all thought he was saying beer was supposed to be bitter when all he was saying was “Bier, Bitte.”

    • PieInTheSky

      booooo

      • Gender Traitor

        Aw, c’mon! A good pun is good for what ales you!

      • UnCivilServant

        Maybe he’s worried that what comes areound gose around.

      • juris imprudent

        Swiss will give this thread a good stout kick.

      • pistoffnick

        Swiss can be a sour puss about puns sometimes…

      • Nephilium

        I don’t know wort’s wrong with y’ale. Swiss is probably barley up at this time.

      • UnCivilServant

        I suspect, deep down, he appreciates a rye wit.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Right in the Heine.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Glad to see that your sense of humor wasn’t impaired by your dental ordeal.

      • Gender Traitor

        Never! The worst experiences barley impair it, and then it hops right back!

    • pistoffnick

      I went out on a limb this past weekend and tried a Bent Paddle Wilderness Tuxedo sour ale. I normally don’t like beer, but maybe I like sour beer?

      my normal swill is Mich Ultra (2.6carbs!) The joke among friends is that it is sex in a canoe* beer.

      *punchline: fucking close to water

      • Nephilium

        Even in sours, there’s a big difference between a kettle soured ale, a gose, a Flemish red, or an oude gueuze. Find what you like and drink it.

  44. Certified Public Asshat

    Warsaw hails planned U.S. military base in Poland as clear signal to Russia

    Poland on Wednesday hailed U.S. President Joe Biden’s commitment to establish the 5th Army’s Headquarters in Poland as the realisation of a long-held dream that would send a clear signal of deterrence to Russia.

    Biden told a NATO summit in Madrid earlier on Wednesday that the United States will ramp up its forces and equipment across Europe and set up a new permanent army headquarters in Poland in response to potential new threats from Russia following its invasion of Ukraine.

    Yay.

    • PieInTheSky

      Just one? make it half a dozen

      • juris imprudent

        A good grift takes time to build.

    • kbolino

      I did not see the Poland gets cucked arc coming. First they “welcome” a bunch of migrants, now they “welcome” foreign bases. So much for their euroskepticism.

      • PieInTheSky

        not that euroskeptic when it comes to western european money…

      • Swiss Servator

        Everyone loves them that sweet EU cash.

      • kbolino

        True, and money always comes with strings attached.

      • PieInTheSky

        yes and Easterners often play ball, give or take. Except Romanians, who get all the negatives but do not try to get some cash out of it.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Given their history with Russia, I can’t really blame them.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, the rest of Western Europe would let the Russians pound them in the ass, again, without even blinking.

      • kbolino

        Choosing to be America’s bitch instead of Russia’s or Germany’s may not work out as well for them as they might hope.

      • juris imprudent

        In reality, no country gets to choose who’s bitch they are – it’s all about who you live next door to. For Poland, that’s about as bad as it gets.

    • creech

      Remember when Trump risked WWIII just by moving the U.S. embassy in Israel?

    • kbolino

      Reading between the lines, it sounds vaguely like they intend to (re)make the army out of Antifa/black bloc lumpen types.

  45. AlexinCT

    I read this whole thing, but never found out what the dead people are buying with their food stamps….

    • Sensei

      Because the current law and system doesn’t provide any mechanism to not send payments to dead people.

  46. The Other Kevin

    Apparently there are pro-choice protests happening in my town, and one of our close friends is going to one on July 4. I’m trying to be a good libertarian and remember people are free to protest whatever they want.

    • PieInTheSky

      is it a good place to meet some easy women? Why would they be pro choice unless they like to do it a lot?

      • The Other Kevin

        You would think, but a lot of them are on a “no sex unless abortions are legal” kick.

      • juris imprudent

        And abortion is still legal in Mississippi under the law just upheld.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Don’t harsh their craze ji

      • juris imprudent

        Me? I’m just egging them on, so to speak.

      • slumbrew

        Always Sunny has become like The Simpsons, with a relevant episode for everything

      • Not Adahn

        That commie org linked to yesterday had a line that “[commie org] is a political organization, not a social club or a dating service!”

    • R C Dean

      Indeed, TOK. I don’t really have a problem with moving this to the states (although Congress is inevitably going to horn in). Its a good issue for the states to handle, given the variation in what different parts of the country want. And as a legislative issue, it should absolutely be open to input, including protests, by the public.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    My work here is done

    Andrew Formica of the U.K.-based investment firm ​​Jupiter Fund Management is the latest top executive to join the Great Resignation, retiring after three years as CEO to hit the beach in time for Australia’s summer season.

    “I just want to go sit at the beach and do nothing. I’m not thinking about anything else,” the 51-year-old Formica told Bloomberg in an interview.

    Formica will step down as chief executive and a director of the $67.9 billion asset manager on Oct. 1, Jupiter announced Tuesday.

    ——-

    Since Formica took over as CEO in 2019, Jupiter has seen its shares more than halve in value.

    Eat your heart out, Kathie Wood.

    • juris imprudent

      Hopefully he’ll be living on the beach because he has no home and no other assets.

      • PieInTheSky

        You do not, it seems, know the ways of the world. That is not how it works.

      • slumbrew

        You’re adorable.

        He will be enjoying the millions he made while driving the fund into the ground.

    • Not Adahn

      He was just not as good of a CEO as William Tile

    • UnCivilServant

      New York State Office of Information Technology Services Site Category Blocked

      URL: ibb.co/zhGTS3W

      Category: online-storage-and-backup

      🙁

      Work proxy hates me.

    • Tundra

      Good morning, KK!

      How’s things in NC? Birds singing?

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Birds, dragonflies, bullfrogs, fireflies – all is good

    • PieInTheSky

      damn that is a huge spider over there

    • Mojeaux

      YOU ARE MY HERO!

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      P.S. I discovered Vivian has tank heaters. If I combine that with heating wire & insulation on the pipes & valves, I may be able to go to the 20s, temperature-wise.

      • juris imprudent

        Presumably you would only tolerate such temps because you are skiing.

    • WTF

      Good morning! Nice rig!

  48. PieInTheSky

    On the abortion front, I am still amazed by people having casual sex without the immortal rule “don’t be a fool wrap your tool”. STDs do exist…

    • creech

      Hey, what about those unfortunate girls getting pregnant from the tractor seat?

      • DEG

        Wait, I thought they get pregnant by getting hit by a bus?

    • Ownbestenemy

      It’s a very small subset of crazies…most of the population understands how sex and reproduction works. Though schools are working extra hard to correct that

      • banginglc1

        Everyone knows how it works. Vagina possessing men and women can get pregnant if they have sex. However, it is not their fault. It’s the paternalistic state’s fault for not giving them free birth control, and when they did get free birth control, it’s because they can’t terminate the pregnancy, but if for some reason they don’t terminate the pregnancy, it is not their responsibility to pay for the child and it’s healthcare.

        Simple. Never their fault, no matter what choices are made.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    Virtue, signalled

    Target will cover employees’ travel if they live in a state where abortion is banned, according to a company memo obtained by CNBC.

    The new policy will take effect in July, according to the email, which was sent to employees Monday from Target’s Chief Human Resources Officer Melissa Kremer.

    “For years, our healthcare benefits have included some financial support for travel, when team members needed select healthcare procedures that weren’t available where they live,” Kremer said in the memo. “A few months ago, we started re-evaluating our benefits with the goal of understanding what it would look like if we broadened the travel reimbursement to any care that’s needed and covered – but not available in the team member’s community. This effort became even more relevant as we learned about the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion, given that it would impact access to healthcare in some states.”

    Don’t come in our stores without a mask, though. That choice is not yours to make.

    • creech

      “we started re-evaluating our benefits”
      i.e. the bean counters realized we can save beaucoup bucks if we pay abortion costs rather than birthing and maternity leave costs.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Wonder if their is a successful court case in all this under unfair labor practices. Providing extra care for one set of people and what not.

        Companies should of course be free to offer whatever they want

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Hopefully he’ll be living on the beach because he has no home and no other assets.

    Thanks. I needed that.

    *mops up coffee from monitor*

    • juris imprudent

      My job here is done.

  51. Sensei

    CNN is desperately trying to find something good to say about Biden.

    “Inside Biden’s successful six-month bid to expand NATO”

    Wonder how they would frame this under a Team Red presidency.

    • Fatty Bolger

      We’d never hear the end of how the “deeply unpopular” and “embattled” team red president was “flailing” and hitting “historic unpopularity levels”. The recession would not be a possibility, it would be here, and every single day would be a drumbeat of doom.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      “Trump’s unsuccessful bid to destroy NATO by getting other members to live up to their pledge to commit 2% of GDP for defense”.

    • creech

      “Needlessly poking the Russian Bear.” or “Warmonger Trump Betrays his friend, Putin.”

    • Ownbestenemy

      Trump expanding NATO gives 1931 vibes in Europe

      • R C Dean

        I’m getting more of a 1913 vibe, myself.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    A client last night just wanted to watch the US Women’s Soccer Team.

    There are some truly sick and perverted people out there.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    “Inside Biden’s successful six-month bid to expand NATO”

    First, it must be made to appear necessary. This will be accomplished by provoking the Russians.

    • PieInTheSky

      at least it is not chlorine

    • Nephilium

      Don’t forget fentanyl.

  54. PieInTheSky

    Global Times
    @globaltimesnews
    China state-affiliated media
    #Opinion: When the UK acts and expresses today the interference in China’s internal affairs, it does so not on its own behalf, but on behalf of the American empire as the tail of the American dog, says six-term British parliamentarian @georgegalloway

    https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1542055954341998593

    • Ownbestenemy

      That one, if goes the way it should will send ripples through the Executive level that will be a far bigger gnashing and wailing than the Roe decision.

      Cries of “it will hamstring the government! Grandma will die! Billy will get lead poisoning! “

      • R C Dean

        Eh. The agencies have shown they don’t give a crap what two of the three branches (Executive and Congress) have to say. Why should they care about the third?

  55. PieInTheSky

    a ranking of mainstream german beer

    Lol, Kristian Niemietz is reading A Book
    @K_Niemietz
    Gold tier: Karlsberg, Eichbaum, Jever
    Good tier: Flensburger
    OK tier: Krombacher, Bitburger, Paulaner Radeberger, Hasseröder, Köstritzer
    Subpar tier: Holsten, Oettinger
    Dreck tier: Berliner Kindl
    Can’t remember: Binding, Duckstein
    WTF? tier: Darguner, Paderborner, Neuzeller

    https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1541873351043448834

    • DEG

      No Augustiner? Kloster Andechs? Hacker-Pschorr?

      Shitty list.

    • Urthona

      No idea why they’d bother with any of those when they can just import Pabst Fucking Blue Ribbon from the US.

      • banginglc1

        I know . . . I mean it won first place!!! Once, in 1893.

      • UnCivilServant

        “Ve vere so drnk, ve didn’t know who ve were voting for!”

      • MikeS

        alol

    • Ownbestenemy

      Isn’t that akin to tasting like shit. Like someone who have to have a reference to base that comparison on?

    • Negroni Please

      It would be amusing if the first vegan meat to actually taste like meat was long pig flavored

  56. KSuellington

    The media lies, Part 2,345,765. Yesterday I saw that a Brazilian Formula 1 champ from the 80’s was accused of calling current driver Lewis Hamilton the “n word”. The use was allegedly in a podcast in Portuguese from a year ago when Nelson Piquet was discussing last year’s Silverstone GP when Hamilton and Verstappen crashed. Verstappen is currently dating Piquet’s daughter. I quickly looked through four or five news reports that all said the same thing, that Piquet used the Brazilian Portuguese slang for “n word”. As a Portuguese speaker, I was highly doubtful of this translation as there really is no word in the language with anything close to the same connotation. Tellingly not one of the reports gave the actual word so I had to look for a Brazilian one. He used the word “neguinho” once in reference to Hamilton. It literally means “little black guy”. It’s also colloquially used to mean “dude”. I see that this morning Piquet apologized, but said that the media completely got the meaning of the word wrong.

    • Ownbestenemy

      If the media twisted it and got it wrong, why apologize?

      • juris imprudent

        Because you can’t kill the motherfucking liars in the media?

      • KSuellington

        Forgot to add that before I found the actual word, I thought he may have called him “aquele preto” which certainly would have been closer to what was alleged.

      • KSuellington

        Piquet got massive amounts of worldwide negative press from it, including from Hamilton who being Lewis Hamilton of course took massive umbrage at the term he had never heard until yesterday. In Brazilian Portuguese the word for black for anything other than a person is “preto/a”, the word for black person is negro/a. Using the diminutive form either is friendly or can be dismissive, depending on your relationship to the person. In this case I’d say it was the latter as he has no relationship to Hamilton. There is no real equivalent in English, maybe calling him “that black kid” would be the closest. So while not anything like the press reported probably not the word he should have used.

  57. Fourscore

    Biden.

    Clinton

    What’s the difference?

    Clinton doesn’t have a period

    • slumbrew

      “Fends off”. By 30 points.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Just a bit outside

    • PieInTheSky

      Still a nutjob though if i am not confusing people

      • DEG

        Some people think Boebert and MTG are nutjobs.

        I don’t. I think that’s media/Establishment smear.

        I doubt I’d agree with every one of their policy positions as neither are libertarian.

      • Tundra

        MTG is pretty damn close. I took the time to actually read the things she wrote and came away wondering if we were all talking about the same person.

        Her positions re warmongering and Assange are particularly strong.

      • kinnath

        I’ve read multiple posts by MTG that set off the left. I think I agreed with everyone that I saw. Her comments were clear, concise, and well-thought.

        I assume that she hold positions that I will disagree with, but I haven’t seen them yet.

      • Tundra

        She triggered cyclops McCain. That makes her aces in my book.

      • R C Dean

        I pay little attention to the antics of members of our decorative national legislature.

      • Rebel Scum

        I like her.

    • Urthona

      she’s hawt

      • creech

        The right-wing mens new Sarah Palin?

      • Animal

        Sarah Palin may be the new Sarah Palin. It’s looking like we’ll be sending her to Congress.

      • creech

        Yeah, but she’s ten years older now and Boebert is fresher.

      • Urthona

        The great thing about female politicians is I get older….

    • Tundra

      Boebert, who faces a scandal involving mileage reimbursement from her campaign account, has raised roughly $5 million for her campaign during her first term in Congress.

      Lol. No mention of the hit piece that she was a paid escort. I guess the lawsuits tempered even the dipshits at NBC.

      • R C Dean

        a scandal involving mileage reimbursement from her campaign account

        I larfed. If that’s all they’ve got on her abuse of the slush funds that are campaign accounts, she’s probably the cleanest member of Congress.

      • Ownbestenemy

        She did it wrong. She was supposed to pay out family members and have a D behind her name

      • R C Dean

        I think campaign slush funds are abused by any and all.

    • robc

      “The newly drawn district still leans significantly to the right.”

      The final version was clearly drawn for incumbent protection. It did make the new 8th district very competitive.

      The big change between the original version and the final was putting some republican parts of Larimer County in with Weld County making both districts more solid. And similar other moves around the state.

    • Urthona

      I have to admit to being in that category. I’ve never been a responsible spender and it’s clear that these good times will last forever and ever.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve found at times my spending expands to meet my paycheck. Though I do rein it in.

      • slumbrew

        Marginal Propensity to Spend

      • Urthona

        Yeah I may be surprised that it’s only 60%

    • UnCivilServant

      Indeed, you’d all still be stuck on the dole, not even making it up to paycheck to paycheck standards of living.

      • Negroni Please

        Right. Europeans live benefits check to benefits check

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      If you are living paycheck to paycheck on $250K, then the problem is you.

      • Sean

        For reals.

      • juris imprudent

        Or you live in one of 3 or 4 states.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        Assuming one of those states is California where I live, I still say the problem is you. I make somewhat less than that, have two kids in college, had student loans that I paid off, have a mortgage, and I still don’t live paycheck to paycheck. I bought a home in a cheaper suburb, don’t have the latest phone, buy cars used in cash, etc. I guess if I felt I had to live in a swankier suburb or in SF, I could see a problem, but living in those places is a choice.

      • juris imprudent

        No one is ever supposed to have to live with the consequences of their choices! It’s in the Constitution!!!

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Or (so I’ve heard) NYC.

      • slumbrew

        House poor.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I know a lot of those people. The problem is them. Lifestyle inflation to the extreme. Then they bitch about how their student loans will outlive them.

      • R C Dean

        And I include insisting on living in areas that you can’t really afford as lifestyle inflation. I’ve run the numbers for fun, and for me to live in, say, San Francisco or even San Diego at anything close to the lifestyle I have now would require a salary that no one would pay me. As in, high 6 figures. Largely real estate, but also taxes and just general cost of living. Sorry, just not worth it to me.

  58. AlexinCT

    When I see vote buying rackets like this, I can’t help but think the problem is with the idiots that don’t realize how badly they are being abused by these criminals that hand out table scraps after they steal all your food.

  59. cyto

    Yesterday we discussed the Trump jumping the limo driver story and I tiptoes up to it because it was minutes old at the time, but we were highly skeptical.

    Now there is a new story. The story is, how completely lacking in reasoning ability is the average human?

    To recap, the story that was told by one young lady was that Trump demanded that his limo driver take him to the capital building. When he refused, Trump tried to wrest the wheel from him and tried to strangle him.

    I watched Anderson Cooper and a panel of grownups, including former Obama officials like Van Jones discuss how this was proof that Trump was dangerously unstable, that he desperately wanted to lead a violent attack on congress from the front, and that AG garland should charge him with sedition immediately. This discussion lasted a solid hour.

    Now, let us be explicit. Here is what you had to ignore to buy that story at the time:

    1. The commander in chief is the hostage of the secret service and cannot order them to take him to the capital building.

    2. The guy who rides in the back of a limousine built like a tank can get to the steering g wheel.

    3. That a 74 year old Trump is going to try to strangle one of the most elite secret service agents who is trained to defend the President against assassination attempts.

    4. That all of that would have happened in the environment of “get Trump at any cost” and we would not have heard it by now.

    So, for many of us that combination immediately set off our BS detectors. But not if you are a partisan. If you are a partisan, this confirms that Trump was actually leading a violent attempt to overthrow the government when he said “peacefully protest”.

    So now the Secret Service agents who were there say they will testify under oath that this never happened.

    And we are supposed to believe that none of the people involved didn’t know that this testimony was false when they put her up. As if with a year and a half to prepare, they have never interviewed any of these people who are career civil servants, not Trump appointees.

    We are supposed to ignore that these are the identical people who told us that Trunp was secretly working for Putin… and they totally had seen the secret, classified evidence that proved it. Adam Schiff. Anderson Cooper. Van Jones. They were all on the inside of that conspiracy to overthrow the government.

    But for some reason, everyone is pretending that this isn’t the case.

    • Urthona

      Hell, I turned on the radio just now and the media is STILL selling this testimony as legit.

    • R C Dean

      The guy who rides in the back of a limousine built like a tank can get to the steering g wheel.

      He wasn’t in the limo. He was in an SUV.

      Other than that, you are on point.

      • Ownbestenemy

        With points given even the SUV probably doesn’t have easy access for someone in the middle to back seat easy access to the driver. If it does, then they need to rethink that vehicle.

    • Ownbestenemy

      On top of it, her testimony is all 2nd hand knowledge and “what amounts to…”. Plus did you know Trump flipped tablecloths! Not tables, but the cloths!

    • cyto

      This is of personal interest to me because my SO is all in. She was astonished by this revelation, and quite angry when I expressed skepticism (which I quickly kept to myself when I noticed the irrational anger attached to having this challenged).

      My instincts tell me this is a particularly teachable moment. The signs that this story was false were built in to the story itself. Like Amber Heard claiming to have been repeatedly punched in the face by a grown man wearing giant rings on every finger… yet leaving a barely discernable mark. Or claiming to have been violently beaten and dragged across broken bottles and then raped with a large liquor bottle so violently that she thought she was being punched repeatedly…. yet not a mark was left and she needed no medical attention.

      You didn’t have to know anything about what actually happened in order to know that Heard was lying. And you didn’t have to know anything about what happened in Trumps limousine to know that this version was BS.

      • R C Dean

        She was astonished by this revelation, and quite angry when I expressed skepticism (which I quickly kept to myself when I noticed the irrational anger attached to having this challenged).

        “Why are you so upset that I think a member of Trump’s entourage is lying?”

      • cyto

        We have discussed this ability to look at things with a skeptical eye here many times. Trump in particular seems to inspire a particularly intractable form of suspension of disbelief.

        I opined that the Russia story was a hoax way back in mid 2017 when Comey announced that they had been using FISA courts and FBI surveillance against the Trump campaign because they had “reliable intelligence” that the Russians were trying to infiltrate the campaign…. so they started a counterintelligence investigation to protect the Trump campaign and transition team from foreign interference.

        This is internally inconsistent, and therefore an obvious lie. I do not have to know what intelligence he had, nor do I have to know what the Russians were doing in order to know that he was lying and they were not acting in good faith. Because you do not protect a group from being spied upon and infiltrated by keeping this a secret from the group leadership, and you do not protect them by setting members of the group up for fake crimes in an effort to coerce them into testifying against the group leader.

        This was obvious from the very beginning.

        So it is a great example of just how incredibly strong cognitive bias is…. but it is also a proof of just how many people are cynically pushing the lies that their masters tell them to push. People like Anderson Cooper. He was there for the wiretap story. He personally ridiculed Trump for believing his wires were tapped. Finding out that he was lied to did nothing. He continued to promulgate the hoax. He was there for the claims that the investigation was based on secret intelligence from the Kremlin, and then for the FISA revelations. Yet this caused not one second of reflection.

        At some point, one cannot believe you are being duped. You have to be in on it.

        Like Savannah Guthrie interviewing Nathan Philips and having the internet do her homework for her and exposing several lies in that interview…. she didn’t go after him with that information… she hand walked him through a rehabilitation interview and then went after a 16 year old autistic kid with a bunch of lies and dishonest attempts to get him to confess to being a racist and to apologize for attacking an innocent old man for racist reasons. This was no mistake, error in judgment or misunderstanding. It was a lie that she knew full well was a lie at the time.

        Just as she knew that she was lying in her coverage of the Kavanaugh rape allegations, since she was in the room at Chuck Schumers penthouse when the strategy to leak the letter from Blasey-Ford.

        Yet we continue to have these people on the airwaves as our trusted news sources.

        This is how you know that the heads of CNN, NBC etc. AL. are in on it. They know these people are partisan propagandists working directly with the DNC. Yet they leave them in key anchor spots. This isn’t like Hannity claiming that he is a partisan advocate over at Fox. He is exactly what he claims to be.

      • cyto

        How does all this tie back to the wife? Because she is the average voters. And she does not see the propaganda machine. She likes and trusts Guthrie and Cooper. She does not believe that they would lie to her.

        And she represents the mass of America. Ahe is center-left. A conservative Christian, raised democrats, educated in a leftist social justice field. She is that Democrat base in the suburbs. And she seems to be impervious to information from outside the propaganda machine.

      • R C Dean

        This probably falls into the bucket of “Its not worth arguing politics at home”. Mrs. Dean and I have our differences, but other than occasionally touching on them we don’t make any effort to change the other’s mind. Its actually not a bad reality check on my own bubble, to be perfectly honest. She was the one, for example, who pointed out Trump was in an SUV, not the limo. Although she does think that particular tall tale is obvious bullshit.

    • KSuellington

      This is exactly how I felt when the Russian Colluzion!!! bullshit began. I mean, this story is even more preposterous on its face, and approximately ten seconds of rational thought should show anyone over the age of 10 that it is absolute fantasy. But I was astonished at how many people bought the Russian story when it first came out. There are still sizable numbers of people in this country (I know a few) who still somehow believe that Trump was colluding with Putin and they just could never quite prove it. It just sounded so unbelievable and outlandish from day 1, and yet it turned into almost a three year long thing. At this point I think they learned that you can literally say anything and a certain percentage of the population will eat it up.

    • juris imprudent

      You can be partisan without being a moron, but you can’t be a partisan pundit on TV. You have to be 110% moron to do that.

      • slumbrew

        Nuance doesn’t get a share of those declining ratings.

      • R C Dean

        You can be partisan without being a moron

        Theoretically possible, but partisanship is strongly correlated with moronitude. It lays in a very strong tribalist/confirmation bias, which is unlikely to result in clear thinking.

        I, for one, think I am seeing increasing partisanship in this community, which is really too bad. Not to say “A pox on both houses” is always the right thing, but it often is. My views on the political parties as essentially fundraising operations for our largely unified ruling class, that need to stoke partisan animosity to keep the money coming, are pretty well known.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, that made your comment about the Dems shutting down Team Red’s fundraising raise an eyebrow.

      • R C Dean

        Good point. Do the Dems really want to shut them down (and take the air out of their own fundraising in the process), or just raise the temperature to increase their own collections? Its probably a struggle between the cynical opportunists in the party who want to keep the cash rolling in, and the troo bleevers who want “one-party” rule.

    • Fatty Bolger

      It’s so dumb, it really is hard to believe that anybody would fall for it. But I still see them trying to argue that it happened on Twitter.

  60. Sean
    • UnCivilServant

      Credit, she used the template correctly and concisely.

      • R C Dean

        Extra points for making “Pussy” look upset that Trump doesn’t want to grab it any more.

      • slumbrew

        Awww, leave her alone.

      • R C Dean

        Kinda where I am. At some point, the statute of limitations runs on “victimless crimes”.

        Still, I laughed. Because I am a bad person.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I posted it because it’s funny.

        I never had a problem with what she did, never really had a problem with Clinton doing it either, except that he knowingly tried to turn her into the bad guy and make her into a pariah, which is a very bad thing, IMO.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        I had a problem with what Clinton did mainly because it came after a long line of Dems making hay out of sexual harassment charges against Republicans. Clarence Thomas allegedly makes a joke about a pubic hair on a Coke can and it’s the end of the world. Sen. Packwood gets run out of the Senate for being a letch. We got lectures about the power differentials. But Clinton gets a blowie from an intern and suddenly it’s no big deal. Well, which is it?

      • Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, it exposed some hypocrisy, but that doesn’t really reflect on the act itself being some terrible thing.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        It was still pretty sleazy, but not impeachment worthy. Yeah, I know he was impeached for lying under oath, but there would have been no oath to lie under without investigating the BJ.

      • R C Dean

        But investigating the blowie was required under the standards and laws that Clinton and his party publicly supported. Play stupid games, etc.