Choking on a Phone Chord

by | Jul 16, 2022 | Beer, Federal Power, Florida, Food & Drink, Markets, Musings | 176 comments

Huh.  A search for this image brought me this link to a Florida Man who actually did choke a woman to death with a phone wire.  Good job Florida!

This is my review of Wolters Pilsner:

Last week #USB-C was trending on the Twatter after Elizabeth Warren (really, who else?) declared it was high time for the US to standardize our phone cables in the name of conserving time effort and resources due to the redundancy involved in the design and manufacturer of a charging cable for every device you buy. If anything we can probably call this the “Fuck Apple Bill” because they still use proprietary cables…except even they are going to USB-C.

The replies predictably were a mishmash of progressives complaining she wasn’t doing anything about the terrible economy, conservatives shrugging their shoulders and saying they could live with it and smug Europeans saying “EU already did that, nothing bad happened, jajaja.”

The irony the product smug Eurodweebs were writing on was neither made or designed in the EU was lost on them.  Where I wanted to focus on were the replies to libertarians explaining the obvious result of such standardization, that mandating a standard would stifle innovation, being “nuh uh stupid libertarians.”

Exhibit A: The 120v plug and socket system.  Since the 1920’s various methods of delivering electricity safely to dwellings and commercial buildings were developed.  Some safer than others but the number of ways one can design a way to provide access to electrical circuits via 2 or 3 wires is nearly infinite.  In the 1940’s the NEC mandated a receptacle be used, then in the 1950’s it required a 3-prong receptacle in certain places, and finally in 1962 all receptacles needed a 3-prong plug.  Since then, every electrical device in the US you use in your home is powered from a source compatible with this system mandated by the National Electric Code.

But did this really stifle innovation in the field of plug and socket receptacles?  Yes.  Even if somebody came up with a better receptacle (I personally would like to see twist lock come into fashion) there is no sense in trying because nearly every building in the US since 1962 uses this system.  Even in the few cases where a plug had to be adapted to allow for modern technology…its still adapted around the 3-prong system.  Need proof?  Next time you’re in a hospital look for the orange receptacle, then ask yourself why it costs $38.

 

A German beer is fitting for such an occasion.  It has long been my opinion German brewing is stuck in a rut for the past 506 years because the Reinheitsgebot has limited every German brewer to exactly four ingredients since a Medieval Elizabeth Warren decided this was the standard since 1516.  Its proof unto itself government standards never change.  Of course it doesn’t mean the result of the standard is bad, or that it doesn’t make my job easy.  Wolter makes a traditional German Pilsner with the same consistent flavor and quality we all come to expect since lagering was developed.  Except it also means it tastes almost exactly like all the others, not that its bad.  Wolter’s Pilsner:  2.5/5

 

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176 Comments

  1. Gustave Lytton

    why it costs $38

    Because you’re buying it from Grainger at list.

    Three groups of people who buy from Grainger:
    Industrial purchasers who negociate deep discount pricing.
    People who need something now.
    People who don’t know better.

  2. Gender Traitor

    Phone Chord

    Would that be the standard US dial tone? 😉

    • SDF-7

      I was expecting an article on phone hacking ala Captain Crunch.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Highly recommend Phil Lapsley’s Exploding the Phone, although the subtitle isn’t quite correct.

      • juris imprudent

        I know Phil from Burning Man; he is a truly awesome guy. He also got me into ham radio.

      • Lord Humungus

        When I was a teenager – was a phone phreak. Back in the day of long distance phone cards – MCI anyone?

        I wasn’t much of a hacker though – too mind numbing to learn Hex and try to break primitive C64 copyright protection. Much easier to farm out that work and just download someone else’s work on the various BBSs of the time 🙂

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Would that be the standard US dial tone

      Ah HA! I knew somebody would catch that.

  3. Timeloose

    “ Gay beat her with a large flashlight in an attempt to kill her before choking her to death with telephone wire.”

    Horrible. Also who still has a phone cord.

    Finally who would have thought that the religious right would be correct about Gays being bad people.

    • Chafed

      I’m guessing the person who captioned his mug shot. “Deputies in Marion County, Florida, arrested Eric Gay, 36, on one cunt of first-degree murder on Sunday, June 3, 2018.”

  4. westernsloper

    Deputies in Marion County, Florida, arrested Eric Gay, 36, on one cunt of first-degree murder on Sunday, June 3, 2018.

    Last week #USB-C was trending on the Twatter after Elizabeth Warren (really, who else?) declared it was high time for the US to standardize our phone cables in ……..

    Sounds like he choked out the wrong cunt.

  5. The Bearded Hobbit

    That article on the grounds was very unclear. Every wiring system ties the ground and neutral together at the breaker panel and nowhere else. Code does not allow the ground conductor to carry current other than fault conditions.

    Single point grounding is very important in instrumentation systems. High currents can be induced onto low-impedance ground conductors when they are connected at both ends.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Here’s a better description of isolated grounds in an AC electrical system. I don’t believe the NEC actually requires a separate ground bar and path back to the main panel’s ground bar, but can be served out of the subpanel’s normal ground bar.

      https://vimeo.com/64281790

      A better discussion os isolated ground in healthcare facilities, along with the dangers of isolated ground (my point about NEC introducing potentially hazardous conditions as requirements above), at the 28 min mark or so

      https://youtu.be/KgxtkgsXFiU

      Basically the isolated ground receptacle requires a connection to the ground screw (similar to residential installs outside of Chicagoland that use non metallic boxes and NM cable) and is electrically isolated from the yoke so cannot use that as a grounding method.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        The way it was explained to me sounded like they were creating a fall of potential but don’t worry about it because the type of equipment they needed an isolated ground for, but that equipment is out of date even if the receptacle is not.

        Otherwise its an easy PDG question if you can remember orange = IG.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Excuse me. Not PDG, SKT. PDG is the history test.

    • R C Dean

      Only at Glibs would a nerdfest on wiring not be off topic for a beer review.

  6. westernsloper

    A German beer is fitting for such an occasion. It has long been my opinion German brewing is stuck in a rut for the past 506 years because the Reinheitsgebot has limited every German brewer to exactly four ingredients since a Medieval Elizabeth Warren decided this was the standard since 1516.

    *snort* Bring on the beer nerds.

    • Homple

      Most wine is made from 3 ingredients: grapes, water, yeast.

      *snort* Bring on the wine snobs.

      • kinnath

        Wine is made from grapes using either the native yeast on the skins or by adding cultured yeast.

        Adding water would be detrimental to the process.

  7. Lord Humungus

    re: AC receptacles:

    My house was built in 1961 and had all two prong receptacles…. but the wiring is three-phase, the ground being well grounded at each AC box receptacle.

    First thing I did when moving in: replaced all the receptacles with 3-prongers, grounded against the box. Up to modern code? Probably not but it makes life easier in a 3-prong world.

    • Lord Humungus

      Don’t know if three phase is the right engineering term. In the world of vacuum tubes I would just call it ground and two AC leads.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, actual 3 phase is usually for running machinery like mills or lathes, not household stuff.

      • Plinker762

        Just get a VFD to run your home lathe. (Generic your)

      • db

        I have a lathe and a mill powered with 230V 3-phase motors powered through oversided VFDs connected to 120V split-phase on two input phase connections. You have to oversize the VFD a bit to do that safely, but it works great.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        This is correct

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        Three-phase is something different and you are unlikely so see it in a residential application. Some folks call 240V “two phase” because there are two “hot” cables. House wiring is 240V single phase input which is split in the box to provide 120V for your teevee and the like.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I made the mistake of running 12/3 for a small 240v baseboard heater upstairs. Installation threw me until I realized the neutral wire is used as a second hot. What a waste of money… the 50′ roll of 12/3 costs about as much as 250′ of 12/2.

      • Plinker762

        There were 90 degree two phase power systems in the olden days. (I’m pretty sure Hobbit knows that)

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        Actually, I didn’t. Thanks for the info. Looks like its use was for a fairly specific application (self-starting motors).

      • Timeloose

        The only time you might need 3 phase in your home might be a EV charger or some industrial equipment like a lathe or planer.

    • hayeksplosives

      My parents’ house (previous to moving into their final retirement house near sister) was built in 1939, southern Greek revival style white with columns, etc—think Gone with the Wind).

      The electric code in 1939 was practically non-existent, so when I would visit from college, I replaced outlet by outlet with three prongers so they wouldn’t use those stubby gray “converters” that basically just life ground since nobody ever screws them to the outlet housing.

      One day I decided to go up in the attic and check out the electrical situation. It was bare wires stretched out over ceramic insulators bolted onto the rafters, which were the “floor height” of the attic. I climbed back down and never went there again.

      Another charming feature of those early houses is that all the fuses are physically the same size. So if you keep blowing a 15 amp fuse, well by cracky, just screw in a 30 amp instead! What could go wrong?

      • hayeksplosives

        “Basically just LIFT ground”

        Stupid autocorrect. If it’s a word, don’t correct it. Only correct it if it’s a typo that is unintelligible.

      • Sean

        “It was bare wires stretched out over ceramic insulators bolted onto the rafters, which were the “floor height” of the attic”

        Commonly referred to as knob & tube.

        And you’re “not allowed” to cover it with insulation, due to potential fire risks.

      • hayeksplosives

        “Knob and tube” —thanks; since I’m an R&D weird stuff engineer, I don’t know the jargon for utility wiring.

        Here’s the house. Looks like the new owners sandblasted (partially) the white paint off the bricks. I like it. I wonder if they updated the electrical systems?

        Not pictured is the separate “servant’s quarters” in back. Yeah, slavery was over by 1939, but they had a live-in servant; but she had a salary and two days off and could have resigned if she wanted.

        The servant house was more-or-less a “tiny house” but nice, because the original home builder owned the local lumberyard and used good stuff. My mom made it into an art studio, then a guest house. Had its own plumbing, shower etc, but no stove.

        The main house roof even has the original cedar shingles!!

        https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/901-N-13th-St-Duncan-OK-73533/84317897_zpid/

      • Sean

        Neat!

      • Lackadaisical

        Someone grew up fancy.

  8. Lord Humungus

    As exciting as the whole craft beer movement has been – I’ve been going back to some of the oldies; like Harp and Bass.

    Murphy’s Stout is still perfectly cromulent. I don’t need peanut butter or coconut – thanks!

    • Timeloose

      There is a reason certain beers are still around. Samuel Smith beers have the right balance of traditional and experimental.

  9. The Bearded Hobbit

    Also, the early standardization of wiring practices was done by an association of electrical manufacturers (NEMA), a private organization not affiliated with government entities (at least at first; thick as thieves, now) . Early codes were established by the NFPA due to fires, rather than personal protection.

    As noted above the tri-annual tweaking of the code is sweeping the dust out of the corners at this point. The vast majority of electrical safety codes and standards have been in place for decades.

    • Lord Humungus

      Bring back the 5-tube radios with the no transformers and the death capacitor.

      • R.J.

        MmmmmmMMMMMMmmm!
        *Makes excited Frankenstein gestures

    • Gustave Lytton

      NEC is still nominally NFPA, but in practice it’s controlled by a manufacturers’ cabal and (mostly) adopted as law by states/sub entities.

      • Plinker762

        The fate of all standard committees.

  10. Semi-Spartan Dad

    The electrical code seems to be moving away from safety and towards really stupid things like having to put your basement freezer on a GFCI outlet. Or having an electrical outlet for each vehicle bay in new garages.

    M y 1950s kitchen had one 15 amp circuit to run everything except the oven and dishwasher. It was real fun having the breaker trip whenever the coffepot was on and someone ran the microwave. Last fall when we tore down to the studs, I replaced the wiring and ran 4 new 20 amp circuits just to the kitchen. Each of the 2 outlet runs has their own circuit, the fridge now has it’s own, and I put in a 4th for the garbage disposal that we never got around to installing. Much much better.

    The bedrooms upstairs still have outlets from the 1950s. I tried to replace one but it’s real tight with not really enough loose wire to make me comfortable. A project for another day will be clearing the attic enough to get at the boxes to see what I’m working with or even replace the wiring.

    • juris imprudent

      I have an electrician slated to come review and propose re-wiring our place down your way. Built in ’49 by the owner, and the electrical shows – though it did pass inspection and it does work (so far without burning the house down). I don’t think we’ve tried the coffee pot and the microwave at the same time, but I’d expect similar results.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        That’s a good idea. Our house was built by the owner just a few years later. They had some… interesting lets call it… ideas about wiring. One of the kitchen outlets turned out not be powered by the 15 amp circuit the rest were on, but rather was pigtailed off the hot wire on the oven. I ripped that out as soon as I saw it.

        The carpentry is solid though. They don’t build houses like that anymore. Hardwood lumber that is true to the dimensions (no 3.5: x 1.5″ bullshit) and so tough have to predrill to get a nail in. Otherwise the nail just bends when hit. Termites did get into the kitchen at some point and ate a huge hole in the wood subfloor and floor away right inside the doorway. The hole had been covered up by linoleum so I didn’t realize how extensive the damage was. My father-in-law helped me move a 500lb gun safe through that doorway over the hole on an appliance dolly. I still have no idea how we didn’t fall through.

    • LCDR_Fish

      I definitely wouldn’t mind having more than one outlet in my 2 car garage for work, etc – really limits where I can put a backup fridge/freezer too.

      That said, even with the three prong outlet thing I do find it surprising how many tools and accessories I still buy that only have 2 prongs.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        If the tool/accessory is properly double-insulated, a separate ground isn’t necessary.

    • westernsloper

      👍

      Every kitchen should have at least four 20 amp circuits.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Yeah, I put a couple into our last house’s kitchen, and when we get around to renovating our latest kitchen (next summer, fingers crossed), I’m pulling out all the 15s and putting in 20s.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m still kicking myself for extending outlets in the garage with 14ga instead of 12. Because that’s what existing run was.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Also spelled nuisance tripping.

    • rhywun

      real fun having the breaker trip whenever the coffepot was on and someone ran the microwave

      My apartment building was built in 1955 but thank goodness they must have updated the wiring at some point because unlike every previous residence since adulthood, stuff like that doesn’t happen. And I run more crap than ever.

      /fun times when our circuit breaker was inside the downstairs neighbor’s apartment 🙄

      • Chafed

        That must have gotten interesting.

      • R C Dean

        Bow chika wow wow?

      • db

        Meine dispatcher says there is somesing wrong vis deine cable.

      • rhywun

        Muhammad, wife, and brood weren’t down with that.

    • whiz

      Our house (built 1977) has one GFI breaker that powers both the bathrooms and the outdoor outlets. It was fun when we had a birdbath heater on and the breaker blew when I tried to dry my hair.

  11. juris imprudent

    So while I was out weeding the garden the wife, unbidden, made me a sammich – pulled pork (homemade BBQ sauce) on Kings Hawaiian rolls and fried onion crunchies. Yum!

    • MikeS

      I’ve been waiting 77 years to watch that movie, and now you spoiled it.

      • westernsloper

        Reason number 267 why you should never click on a Ted S link.

  12. hayeksplosives

    My 11 pound cat is defying the laws of physics by curling up somehow in a shoebox. He even has dragged a plush toy into the box to make it even more crowded.

    • Gender Traitor

      “If I fits, I sits.”

      • hayeksplosives

        👍

        Corollary: if it’s different I sits.

        It can be a piece of tissue, a plastic bag—anything. As long as it’s different from the surrounding floor, cat will occupy .

      • Gender Traitor

        There’s a single smallish box from a recent shipment sitting between the living room and “dining” room. Our two toms share compete for it. What’s funniest is when they have a standoff, one crouched on either side of the box, peering suspiciously at each other over the top.

      • Mojeaux

        My cats like to chew on plastic, the noisier the better.

      • Gender Traitor

        Give ’em bubble wrap and let the hilarity ensue.

      • db

        My cat (pictured, above left) follows that rule. There is only one rule she follows, and it is that one.

      • rhywun

        Heh yup. Footgear was especially attractive – a sock, shoe, sandal.

    • Mustang

      My 15 pound maine coon manages to do the same thing. I’m convinced there’s some kind of yet-undiscovered internal organ in cats that generate some kind of physics-defying bubble around them. She then proceeds to tear the boxes apart piece by tiny piece around her.

  13. Sean

    Last thread I linked about the PA grand canyon. If any of you go, I’d like to recommend some quaint accomodations.

    http://sylvanglen.com/rental1.html

    The A frame cabin. Located right on the creek.

    Don’t be tall, else you might not like the shower. At 6′, mildly awkward.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    War on Innovation!

  15. Mojeaux

    With my vast expertise as a true-crime-tv watcher, I can with veracity say that choking with a phone cord is more common than you might think.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Also who still has a phone cord.

    My new place has a landline phone jack in nearly every room. It’s so bizarre.

    I need to run 220 to the shop. Right now it only has 110. That’ll be fun.

    I rewired an entire house to get rid of knob and tube. My nephew has been living in it for about twenty years.

    • Gender Traitor

      We keep one landline corded phone in the house in the event of a power outage. (Saved our bacon when the dry Hurricane Ike came through SW OH.)

      At least that what TT says is the reason we keep it. 😳

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        We used to do that too. Then our regional telco (TELUS) decided that they’re getting rid of the battery-backed-up analogue copper network completely ’cause it’s too clunky and unwieldy.

        I can hardly wait for the Rogers cell network debacle to replicate across Canada, cutting everyone off from the wireless network. That’ll be a laff riot. 🙄

      • Gender Traitor

        Our landline is Cincinnati Bell, last of the Baby Bells (::bows head::) after the breakup of AT&T – and apparently now adopting the alias “altafiber.” Had their mobile service too, for years…until they got out of the business and pawned us off on Verizon. (We’ve since switched to Spectrum for mobile.) It may be just a matter of time before they dispense with landline phone service, too. At least we now have a fire pit from which we can send smoke signals if electricity and cell service goes out.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Last of the associated companies to use the name, but was never a Baby Bell. Those are the 7 RBOCs created to take ownership of the divested Bell operating companies. Cincinnati Bell and SNET wee licensees and affiliates of the Bell System but were only minority owned by the Bell System.

      • Gender Traitor

        Ah! Gotcha – thanks!

  17. slumbrew

    This place was built in 1893. There’re still knob and tube remnants in the basement.

    We had the electrical upgraded a couple years back (only had 60A to each of the 2 units), but the are still some odd circuits.

    Both places should probably be rewired.

    • Sean

      Yes, they should. New panels means you’ve got funky splices somewhere.

    • MikeS

      Greenberg’s cause of death was initially ruled a homicide before being switched to a suicide.

      Her family has cast doubt on that because she was stabbed 20 times, including 10 times in the back of the neck.

      I take it the swing bar lock being engaged is a big reason they claim suicide, but who stabs themselves 20 times and in at least two different locations; one being the BACK of their neck? It’s ridiculous.

      • db

        I did some follow up reading on this–it’s amazing how the case proceeded, with the medical examiner changing his finding from homicide to suicide after apparent pressure from th epolice department, that had treated the crime scene and investigation as a suicide. Apparently that treatment was primarily based on the fiance’s assertion that the swing bar lock was engaged and that he had to break in to find her.

        Later you hear that her parents believe she was being abused by her fiance, and that she had multiple bruises that could have indicated prior abuse in the days leading up to the death, and that at least two of the wounds were to her brain–and some wounds were found to have been made after bleeding was impossible–i.e., that her heart had stopped before the wound occurred.

        This seems like a completely incompetent investigation that turned into a coverup of that incompetence.

      • R C Dean

        Welp, time for “self-help”, then.

    • Grumbletarian

      She had information that would have led to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?

  18. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Don’t get me started on this one. If you don’t like the damn phone charger jack, then buy a different phone.

    • Sean

      Wireless charging ftw.

      • one true athena

        Right? I only ever use the cord for my phone for the airport basically. Otherwise I have the wireless base.

        although I guess it has a plug/cord so fascist lizzie would still want to regulate it.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Eventually everything will go that way.

      • Plinker762

        Soon you’ll be able to charge your electric car as you drive along the interstate!

      • mexican sharpshooter

        That sounds suspiciously like a train.

      • Plinker762

        Trains set you free

      • Ownbestenemy

        We can’t even maintain normal roads, I could imagine that clusterfuck

      • Plinker762

        Have your heard of the idiocy of Solar Roadways?

      • Plinker762

        The grifters started in north Idaho. Nothing like ice and snow to improve solar generation.

  19. Sean

    Porterhouses on sale this weekend. Got some good chunks of cow to grill. 😎

    • Ownbestenemy

      Costco had their fryer chickens back at 1.49/lb. Now for some butchers

  20. robc

    The reinheitsgeboten only applied to Munich until early 20th century.

  21. Yusef drives a Kia

    All this talk of electricity is making me want to spark one up.

    • MikeS

      In case you missed this the other nigh:

      I shaved 12 throws off my game! My first ever 9 was +20. Yesterday I went to the same course and played two rounds of 9 and got a +8 both times. It’s not a difficult course, but I had noticeable improvement in my drives and putts.

      I’m really digging disc golf and you are the #1 reason why I tried it out. Tall cans and big baskets!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Im glad you enjoy it, when the pars become regular you get greedy for birdies, and the elusive ace run. Ill be at my course about 10 minutes after I clock out at 5, and play til 10 tonight.
        DGED 🕳

      • MikeS

        👍🏻

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        And a nice place to learn! Some open field and some trees, with a short par four at the end, looks fun!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Mike, I am yusefadama on udisc if you want to look me up

      • MikeS

        I’m trying to find how to connect with you but am not seeing it…

      • MikeS

        👍🏻

      • MikeS

        It’s a fun little course. And there is a nice little bar (The 10th Hole) with a big deck a half block from the first tee. The bar owner built the course. Smart man.

      • MikeS

        I was pumped when I got my first par, then about 3 holes later I bounced a birdie putt off the basket…I wanted that birdie too much and shanked it. haha

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Send me an email at trashy-glibs@disengage.co if you want to connect on UDisc. Yusef and I are already plugged in together.

        I threw a +4 today at the easy course. Some rust needed to be knocked off after not playing for 5 months, but now that I have the hips coming through with the disc, they’re flying lower and straighter than before. Came thisclose to acing one today.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Good to hear trashy! Following through is so important so rotating your hips is critical. I had to disc down from 9 to 7 speed on our ace run hole, 240 ft. I began overshooting the chains by 30 ft. A good problem to have

      • MikeS

        That’s a damn good problem to have. I don’t have that problem yet. haha I haven’t measured, but I think my furthest is around 150 feet so far. Practice practice practice.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I throw my Sidewinders around 300′ consistently now, I quit trying to crush it and worked on speed and form instead, it really made me a better, more even player.

      • MikeS

        That’s awesome. From the start I’ve been purposely trying to work on form before distance. I don’t want to develop bad habits that become much harder to change down the road.

      • MikeS

        email sent

  22. Timeloose

    My house was re-wired back in the late 90’s. I still have the knob and tube in the joists and walls with no juice going to them.

    My dad was a journeyman electrician right after the Navy. He told me horror stores about going into a house to fix an issue and finding coins and other items put into the fuse box to keep them from blowing. There were cases where the knob and tube lines were red hot due to overloading circuits meant for one or two lamps with multiple outlet extensions and tons of modern appliances plugged
    in. There were a lot of fires back in the day.

    In my grandfathers house I found lamp cord running power through the walls in some places.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I once saw an extension cord going from a 115v outlet to power up a 50 amp subpanel, not a wise move

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I still have the knob and tube in the joists and walls with no juice going to them

      Whoa.

      • slumbrew

        That’s very common around here.

      • Timeloose

        My house was built before plumbing and electric.

        I have still have a chimney in my kitchen from the coal range/oven. They were common in my area until the 1980’s.

        My great aunt had one of those monstrosities in her kitchen until the mid 80’s.

  23. Combat Wolf Furry

    I have to say, I’m kind of disappointed. I was led to believe that this is the place to be after Reason took a shit, but this place reads like an LP convention.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Well, bye🤐

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I’m full of disappointment today.

    • R C Dean

      LP conventions are full of electricians talking shop?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Rjght?

    • Ownbestenemy

      It could be worse. We could be talking of firsting, rheee-ing, the components of beer ot how people just cannot handle an organic conversation.

    • Grumbletarian

      Sorry to hear that, Mr. Sarwark.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I figure it’s the same as Donation Not Taxation or the Constitution something handles.

      • Not Adahn

        Wait, Sarwark’s a fed?

      • slumbrew

        How do you do, fellow libertarians

  24. one true athena

    The plugs that crack me up are the ginormous three prongs in the UK. The plug alone weighs as much as the appliances it’s powering. I guess it’s left over from early days, but what a dumbass thing to standardize.

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      And their outlets have built-in switches to turn them off or on, too. I kept having chats with Brits who honestly believed this made them “safer” than North American outlets, somehow.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        No the switch just makes it more of a pain in the ass to secure the faceplate to the box. There’s just no room in box for any splices.

      • Tulip

        I once stayed in my brother’s flat in the barbican at Alnwick castle. It was freezing and all the heaters were on outlets on timers, plus the one outlet in the bathroom had to be switched on. My brother and family were in Germany while I was there and didn’t leave instructions for the outlets. Everything else, but not the outlets.

  25. Mustang

    I feel the same way about German beer. They’re nearly universally uninspiring.

    One of the local church elders is convinced that Biden will step aside in the next 90 days, Harris will step up, appoint Newsome, and then step aside and we’ll have President Newsome.

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      Wut?

    • rhywun

      Is that a horror story or are they – somehow – happy for that to happen?

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        I guess that depends on whether they think such a move will presage the rapture, the apocalypse and then the establishment of the Kingdom of God.

        Even money it’s just the start of the Second American Civil War.

      • Mustang

        The elder not be happy. More likely he’d be sheltering the insurgency. The guy has enough political connections that it made my heart sink to think that maybe he knows what he’s talking about.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    One of the local church elders is convinced that Biden will step aside in the next 90 days, Harris will step up, appoint Newsome, and then step aside and we’ll have President Newsome.

    WHEEEEEEE!

    • Tres Cool

      So then Newsome picks……?
      AOC?
      M00bs?
      Pelosi?

      • Not Adahn

        Whoever that ugly tranny was with Admiral Levine at the French Embassy.

  27. Not Adahn

    The drive was longer than the hike. Got my first NY speeding ticket!

    Daily Quordle 173
    5️⃣6️⃣
    7️⃣4️⃣

    Time to take the dog to the park.

    • Gender Traitor

      That reminds me – I’d appreciate a heads-up if there are any particular speed traps on the interstate west of Party Central.

      • Not Adahn

        No idea, I’m north of Albany.

      • UnCivilServant

        Every town where the speed limit drops will have at least one speed trap.

        On the interstates where the speed doesn’t drop, they move around.

      • Gender Traitor

        (Note to self: maintain legal speed, refresh memory as to use of cruise control.)

      • Annoyed Nomad

        GT, Your question reminded me of a personal story to share. A few years ago, my wife’s side of the family decided to do something special for her aunt: get tickets for a Notre Dame football game* and all go to the game together. So, my father-in-law volunteers his mini-van for the Dayton contingent to drive over to Indiana. We took turns driving. When my wife was driving, we were on some Indiana 2-lane road and she asks, “What’s the speed limit on this road?” I had actually been looking and I said there doesn’t seem to be a speed limit sign posted (Note: we verified there weren’t any on the return trip). She passes a truck and then out of nowhere a cop car pops up with its lights flashing. My wife was furious – she had NEVER gotten a speeding ticket in her life and here she was, getting her first one in her 50’s.

        I joked that, like most teenagers though, she got her first ticket driving her dad’s mini-van.

        *Her aunt was thrilled since she’s a big ND fan, but that game was torture. Being a Purdue alum, I generally root against ND. Pittsburgh was the opponent and ND was heavily favored, but the game went into triple overtime. Pittsburgh and ND both flubbed opportunities to win. That damn game just kept going on and it was Winter and COLD! And the concessions ran out of hot beverages. And dammit if ND ended up winning (which was nice for her aunt).

      • Gender Traitor

        At least going in winter you avoided the inevitable never-ending road construction and “Wander Indiana” detours.

        Go Boilermakers?

      • Tulip

        My sister-in-law used to have a ticket pasted on the steering wheel, because if she got one more she would lose her license.

    • UnCivilServant

      You’ve got one more than me.

      Sorry to hear it. Usually the cops are easy to avoid.

    • db

      Daily Duotrigordle #136
      Guesses: 37/37
      3️⃣6️⃣ 2️⃣2️⃣ 3️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣
      1️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣ 2️⃣8️⃣ 0️⃣4️⃣
      1️⃣3️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣ 1️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣
      2️⃣9️⃣ 1️⃣0️⃣ 1️⃣5️⃣ 3️⃣0️⃣
      2️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣
      0️⃣5️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣3️⃣ 0️⃣8️⃣
      0️⃣7️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣
      1️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣ 1️⃣8️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣
      https://duotrigordle.com/

      • rhywun

        Bonkers. That was kind of fun.
        I have no idea what these numbers mean.

        Daily Duotrigordle #136
        Guesses: 35/37
        0️⃣8️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣
        1️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣ 1️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣3️⃣
        1️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 1️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣0️⃣
        3️⃣1️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣3️⃣
        1️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣0️⃣
        1️⃣0️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣ 2️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣
        2️⃣3️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣4️⃣
        2️⃣6️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣ 2️⃣8️⃣ 0️⃣5️⃣
        https://duotrigordle.com/

      • The Hyperbole

        The numbers should be pairs 08 29 34 11 etc… they mean the same thing as in Quordle.

      • rhywun

        Ohhh got it.

      • kinnath

        Daily Duotrigordle #136
        Guesses: 36/37
        3️⃣0️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣8️⃣
        1️⃣5️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣ 1️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣5️⃣
        0️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣3️⃣ 2️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣
        2️⃣7️⃣ 0️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣
        1️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣6️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣
        0️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣ 2️⃣0️⃣ 0️⃣7️⃣
        2️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣0️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣
        0️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣3️⃣
        https://duotrigordle.com/

    • slumbrew

      Million to one shot, Doc.

      • Tres Cool

        +1 AssMan

      • rhywun

        +1 *wink*

  28. R.J.

    Woof. Druuuunk. Hanging out with Retired Rambo (lurker) takin’ movies, guns and smoking cigars. Wish you all were here.

    • Tres Cool

      Im going to bed. Some of us have to work all night.

      /kicks rock

    • Gender Traitor

      What’s with this lurking nonsense?? You tell him (yes, I’m assuming gender) to step up, show his…avatar, and say something to the assembled multitude!

      • Gender Traitor

        Well…maybe suggest he do it on the evening lynx thread. On topic, of course.

      • R.J.

        I have tried and tried. The only lurker I have got to join is Bethannica, and she never says a thing anymore. I told her about the Glib Girls meetup but even that hasn’t got her going. So be it.