Wednesday Morning Links

by | Jul 20, 2022 | Daily Links | 502 comments

Yeah, it was that boring.

Apparently the All Star Game was petty boring, but at least the American League won.  Looks like more big names are headed to the LIV Tour. And I’m fine with that.  I really don’t know what else to say. College Football is thankfully just 6 weeks and three days away. And that’s sports.

“New York Strong”, lol.  FTA:

The scorching heat that has already settled across much of the south-central US and prompted heat warnings and advisories across the region is now beginning to extend into the Northeast Wednesday, bringing “steamy temperatures into the 90s” and heat index values — in other words, how hot it will actually feel, based on both the air temperature and humidity — that are even higher

I’m gonna remember this the next time they talk about how tough they are. Because they’re about to get but a small taste of what we deal with for months at a time. Oh, and it’s been at least ten degrees hotter here every day for three weeks.

To hell with the legislature, when you can just act like a king. The Supreme Court just ruled on bullshit like this. Not that it matters to this (and the last several) asshole.The only silver lining is that he’s going to unveil his plans at a coal-fired power plant…in front of a bunch of workers there…during a recession. I can only imagine how well that goes over.

Yeah, no shit. And just like the myriad stories we hear about government actors failing at their job every day, this one resets at the feet of the people in place to allegedly protect us.

Nice job, Starbucks.

They’re eating their own. Remember when you decided bums shooting up in your bathrooms was a good idea, champ? Well enjoy reaping what you sowed. Also, I’m glad you’re finally seeing the light. Unfortunately its a bit late in the game.

“PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!” But not my big, juicy booty. This lady, I swear to God. She needs to fucking go away.

Gun it!

Well this is bullshit. I’m no fan of street racing, but to basically create penalties for actions before someone is convicted sounds like a rights violation to me. And that’s before we even get into the legality of cameras being used to find the license plate numbers. But at least they’re doing something, right? Nevermind the fact that violent crime is out of control there.

I’d expect this trend to continue at least for the near future. And yes, it will be mostly nationwide. Although being in a high-tax state with already inflated home prices is gonna make it worse in California.  I just hope they stop moving here at some point, because a lot of them are gonna bring their shitty ideas with them.

This is a bold play. Seriously, though, it has become harder to find kids toys since they all closed down. Sometimes you want to let the rugrats browse. And that’s been tough. I still think it will fail, but I hope I’m wrong.

This is just good, clean fun. The 80s were great. And these chicks were adorable. Here, enjoy a second one. That was a better version than the original, by the way.

Right, now go have a great day, dear friends.

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502 Comments

  1. UnCivilServant

    Because they’re about to get but a small taste of what we deal with for months at a time

    And we’ll remember for when you complain about it being “cold” at positively balmy temperatures.

    • Nephilium

      It’s more entertaining when someone from a dryer climate thinks that swamp coolers are a good idea when the humidity is above 70%.

      /looks at fests and amusement parks with out of state management

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yeah, humidity is the big kicker. A friend was complaining about the 105+ heat because of “how humid it is here in Dallas”. He’s from Amarillo.

        Compared to most points east, Dallas may as well be desert. It gets a little bit humid here in the spring, but nothing like the other places I’ve lived where the windows are liable to fog up on bad days.

        I can walk outside in 105 heat here to check the mail and not break a sweat. Yes, I’d want to seek out shade if I was going to be outside for an extended period, but 85 and steamy is worse to me than 105 and dry.

      • Rat on a train

        Agreed. I walked two miles in 111 heat. I was hot but not miserable. I’ve stood in the shade waiting for a train during humid Virginia summers and felt a stream of sweat going down my spine.

      • Nephilium

        Over 70% humidity today, with the high temp supposed to just touch 90. There’s supposed to be rain tonight, so hopefully that’ll knock some of the humidity down.

      • Rat on a train

        Don’t know about humidity, but we are building up to 100+ for the weekend.

      • SDF-7

        Yeah, that’s what can get me in trouble out here. If I’m working in GA and it is hot, I’ll be dripping in sweat.

        Here (especially if the wind kicks up), I’m dry as a bone… and my body doesn’t realize that the sweat is just evaporating immediately. Until I go back in the shade or whatnot and almost pass out if I’ve been overdoing it and not realizing it. Never been as close to heat stroke as I can get here — you just don’t notice it until you stop or keel over.

      • Drake

        Spent a lovely summer in Infantry school at Camp Geiger living outdoors. Around 100 every day and so humid it was often foggy. Then they shipped some of us off to Twentynine Palms in the high Mojave for radio school. It was 129 the day we arrived, and we were all talking about how comfortable it felt as long as you stayed in the shade.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I went from Kuwait to back here in July. 80/90 out and i was cold. Like put a jacket or sweatshirt on cold.

      • R.J.

        Sounds like Vegas. It’s scary how you’re fine one moment and then on the ground the next.

      • Rat on a train

        Desert and arctic environments are deceptively dehydrating.

    • Trigger Hippie

      My Midwestern “privilege” allows me to experience a heat index exceeding 110 degrees to wind-chills under -10.

      Hotter than the desert? No. Colder than Canada? No. Some of the biggest swings in seasonal temperature on the continent? You betcha.

      • UnCivilServant

        Proximity to large bodies of water moderates the temperature extremes. So the interior of the continent gets the hottest and coldest.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Indeed. Lived in Boston for a couple of years. The Summers were pleasant in comparison but I sure as hell don’t miss Winter in the Northeast.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Too much snow.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Too be fair, I have gone from 20 degrees and snow to 95 degrees in 24 hours at Ft Irwin.

        The lack of humidity means the air won’t retain heat after dark, so the daily temperature swings in the spring and fall can be brutal.

        In the summer, it doesn’t drop off quite so bad, but that is because the ground radiates heat all night.

      • Nephilium

        It can moderate it.

        When lake Erie freezes, the winds get damned cold… but at least the snow lets up.

      • Rat on a train

        I do miss coastal SoCal weather.

      • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

        There is a reason Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, and Monterey are so popular.

      • Rat on a train

        I didn’t mind when the Army misplaced my SF86 when I was at the Presidio of Monterey. I had to stay an extra five months on casual. As a bonus they rescinded my orders to Fort Monmouth.

      • Not Adahn

        *Nods in Oklahoman*

      • R.J.

        At least tornado alley moved east a bit! That’s some relief .

      • Gender Traitor

        Yeah, thanks for that. 🙄🌪️

      • Rat on a train

        I’ve personally experienced weather from 111 to -45 (probably around -75 with wind chill). The heat index of Virginia’s hot, humid summers can approach the California desert on extreme days, but winters never approach Fort Greely cold.

      • MikeS

        Just in the last 12 months I’ve experienced air temps from -32F (windchills into the -60F range) up to 103F ( and heat indices over 110F)

    • Lackadaisical

      Yeah, and there’s something to be said about the body’s out the mind’s ability to adapt. Changes outside of what you’re used to tend to feel much worse than if you experience it every day.

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Far-left Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was roundly mocked on social media Tuesday after she put her arms behind her back to imitate being handcuffed following her arrest at a pro-abortion demonstration outside the Supreme Court.

    To be fair, she was just re-enacting the previous night’s role-playing.

    • SDF-7

      Did she also murmur “Teach me to use a garbage disposal, Big Daddy?”

    • Certified Public Asshat

      For someone so traumatized by the police on 1/6, she seems oddly calm.

      • Lackadaisical

        Ugh, the local news here is credulously reporting that they got arrested (pretty sure that’s false). If so, please let them rot in jail for their insurrection for the next year.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        They were not arrested, but, AFAIK, escorted away and let go.

  3. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Sometimes you want to let the rugrats browse.

    Roughly translated: Sometimes you want to be able to leave the little fuckers in the toy department while you try to buy a washing machine.

    • sloopyinca

      Nah, I really do like letting my kids occasionally pick their own toys. A large store of them would be more fun than just a few aisles at Target or Walmart.

      But an appliance store with a toy department would be freaking awesome.

      • waffles

        I can remember pretty much being allowed to wander around any big box store by myself from age 5 or so on. I enjoyed it. Especially doing the mental math on fractions like 3 for 5 dollars.

      • Mojeaux

        I traumatized my daughter when I tried to make her do toilet paper math (comparing prices per sheet of toilet paper).

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        I was not. Not u til I was older.

        Being from South Florida, we were carpet bombed with the Adam Walsh killing, which happened when I was very young.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        But an appliance store with a toy department would be freaking awesome.

        IKEA

      • Rat on a train

        My daughter can spend an hour browsing the limited selection at current stores. A full Toys R Us would be a multiday trip.

      • Nephilium

        Just drop them off here. The first times I took the nephews there was eye-opening for them.

      • whiz

        But don’t give them money or else they’ll be wired for the rest of the day.

      • Timeloose

        They used to be called Sears. They had tools too I hear.

      • Rat on a train

        And appliances and other things for the working class. That was the problem. They wanted a better class of customers.

      • juris imprudent

        Blows my mind a little to see Craftsman tools at Home Depot.

      • DrOtto

        The return policy on those now Chinese made tools isn’t what it used to be.

      • UnCivilServant

        “All sales final, no warantee.”

      • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

        And now we know why Sears was so popular.

  4. SDF-7

    Yes, growing up in the Southeast and now living in the “Oh, it is below 110 this week! What a cool July we’re having!” Central Valley, my sympathy for New Yorkers is pretty low.

    While I do like Egyptian and Hazy Shade — this is actually my favorite Bangles tune. Yes, I’m a weirdo (but you knew that already).

    Morning, all.

    • UnCivilServant

      Just because you’ve come to accept abusive weather doesn’t mean it’s not too hot for human habitation.

    • TARDis

      this is actually my favorite Bangles tune

      I guess I’m a weirdo too.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I was expecting Eternal Flame, which would make you a weirdo.

      • SDF-7

        That’s forever etched in my mind as the “Teenage Girl Prom Theme” given they *all* wanted it played during my later high school years. So, no way.

        I fully expect this took its place a couple of decades later… because it so spoke to them! (Have to give Swift credit for that one — if there was ever a song more designed to be “The One” for teen girls [at least in the country] I haven’t heard it…).

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I need ear bleach.

    • rhywun

      A lot of New Yorkers (and the NE in general) don’t have air conditioning. I doubt that’s the case in other parts of the country where heat waves are more common.

      • sloopyinca

        Failing to plan is planning to fail.

      • Rat on a train

        Shinx?

      • Rat on a train

        Edit, Sphinx.

      • UnCivilServant

        Speak for yourself, downstater.

      • rhywun

        Not speaking for myself – I have plenty of AC.

      • straffinrun

        That is weird. My hot and cold air come from the same machine.

      • Sensei

        Most heat in apartment buildings in NYC is steam or hot water.

        In higher end buildings they will switch the from heated water to chilled water to create AC.

        New York City, unlike say Tokyo, wasn’t bombed and burned into just about nothing in the mid 20th century. So some the HVAC is a bit more archaic.

      • straffinrun

        Overdue for a bombing campaign is what that sounds like.

      • Count Potato

        Due to wear and refrigerant bans, I doubt any of the HVAC in NYC is that old.

      • Sensei

        Window units and drop in – hell no.

        But for higher end residential – chilled water is a real thing.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Twice, too.

        So what’s Europe’s excuse?

      • Rat on a train

        I have gas heating but electric cooling.

    • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

      SDF, I keep meaning to ask, where in the Valley are you? I lived in Fresno, Merced, and Sac for almost 20 years.

      • slumbrew

        Thanks to Adam Carolla, I can’t read “Fresno” without mentally pronouncing it as “Fres-noooo!”

      • R.J.

        I was in San Jose and Los Gatos for five years. That was my California stint. Back around 1984.

      • SDF-7

        Newman. That’s just a touch north of Gustine, which is about 40 minutes northwest of Merced. Basically between Modesto, Turlock, Patterson and Merced on CA-33.

      • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

        OK, I know where that is. I dated a girl who went to Cal State Stanislas, so I wandered around there quite a bit.

  5. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Note to customers: If the equipment says “vapor draw propane tank only”, don’t put a liquid draw tank on it.

    Flames shooting out of the muffler is not normal operating conditions.

    • Nephilium

      Of course not… it’s bitchin’ operating conditions!

      • sloopyinca

        That’s so freaking boss, man!

    • SDF-7

      FIRE! FIRE! Huh… huh-huh-huh….

    • db

      Ha ha, that’s rich!

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m leaning towards adding some clauses in the contract for this.

      • Count Potato

        I see what you did there.

  6. Fourscore

    Unless one works outside doing labor, do the temps really matter?

    Most of us enjoy artificial heat and cold, as required. As an old skinny guy the cold is more annoying than the heat. OTOH 85 is a really hot day here.

    • UnCivilServant

      The artifiical cold requires putting a window AC unit in, and I’d been procrastinating.

      • SDF-7

        Window-window or one of the ones where you just put the vent/hose exhaust in the window and the unit itself is a rolling model that you can move around? I’ve had good experiences with the latter — and the mounting is much, much less of a pain (basically a little insulating foam tape around the hose exhaust, maybe a screw or something if you have security concerns about being able to move it.

      • UnCivilServant

        The one I procrastinated on (finally getting it done last night) was a window-window unit where the whole darn thing goes in the window. I have a portable with the window hose that’s been working in the bedroom for a while now (but isn’t strong enough for any larger space than that)

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Those portable units are the bomb. I’m sad I left mine in VA when we moved. Could’ve used them when the AC went out a few weeks back.

    • sloopyinca

      But this is New York City. You gotta herd into the packed subways and shlep several blocks from the station to your building and then repeat the process at the end of the day before shlepping several blocks to get home after crawling out of the pit of a station. And then you’ve got to walk block after block to get your shopping done. It’s not like those rubes in flyover, who walk to the parking lot and then drive to within 30 feet of their home’s entrance to their very own driveway.

      They’re way more cosmopolitan and much smarter than we are. Just ask them. They’ll tell you.

      • Rat on a train

        Come to Washington, try Metrorail, enjoy riding in a car with broken AC. Maryland’s commuter rail also has a history of broken AC.

      • rhywun

        Meow.

        I guess I’m one of the good ones, because I find region war pointless.

      • UnCivilServant

        Depends on whether it’s good natured or mean-spirited regionalism.

      • sloopyinca

        I hope Rhywun knows I’m generally being good-natured. But it can’t be denied that a lot of people from NY look down at people in places like Houston…even though it’s the fourth largest city in America and the most diverse. And it’s reasonable to take offense at that, especially when they start shitting their pants at weather we endured a month ago as it was just starting to warm up here.

      • Not Adahn

        Houston is utterly miserable weather-wise.

        Restaurant-wise, and strip club-wise, it’s pretty great.

      • straffinrun

        Love me some flyover country, but bragging about their lack of exercise don’t seem right.

      • sloopyinca

        Eh, I prefer getting my exercise by choice on my schedule, not out of necessity as I’m commuting or buying groceries.

      • straffinrun

        You can, but sure looks like a lot of people there are just skipping out on exercise entirely.

      • sloopyinca

        sure looks like a lot of people there are just skipping out on exercise entirely.

        See also: everywhere else

      • straffinrun

        Not here.

      • straffinrun

        BTW, I’m assuming obesity rates are higher in fly over country compared to the cities. I could be wrong, obviously.

      • rhywun

        And people from everywhere endlessly bitch about NYC.

        It gets tiresome. Everybody just enjoy where you live, or move.

      • straffinrun

        I like to bitch about it cuz it’s such a small city.

      • Ted S.

        When they’re coming up here and fucking over oir politics and exonomy, then ueah, I’ll bitch about them.

      • Not Adahn

        Small city? Please. Tokyo only has the population of fraking Canada for Amateratsu’s sake.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I’ve also noticed women will complain about the office a/c being too cold, but most women still want to work inside.

      • DrOtto

        Women complain about the smallest temperature nuances, to the point of tedium. I do not understand it.

  7. juris imprudent

    Some people are just begging for a dictatorship [of the proletariat].

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Note to some people: That’s never what you get.

      • Rat on a train

        Dictatorship over the proletariat. A vanguard is needed to force the proletariat where they need to be.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Give Lenin some credit, he knew how to bring the shittiest, most vindictive and petty people on the planet into the effort.

      • juris imprudent

        Psychopaths of a feather…

      • Plisade

        Interesting to note, based on some studying of revolutions, is that the ruthless radicals among the revolutionaries are necessary to see the revolution to victory. But before the new government is formed, the moderate revolutionaries need to literally kill off or successfully exile the radicals to prevent the new government’s being authoritarian.

      • juris imprudent

        France says “wait – you mean we got that backwards”?

      • Plisade

        Ha! Btw, the book, Days of the French Revolution, is a great read.

      • Rat on a train

        Counter-revolutionaries must be hunted. We will only be authoritarian for as long as it takes to create our utopia. Trust us.

      • Gender Traitor

        It’s taking longer than we expected.

  8. Brawndo

    I bit the bullet and stepped down from my decently paying but dead end middle management job at the grocery store to take a job as an entry level welder. I’m going to keep working weekends at the store and it works out that I’ll be working more hours for roughly the same weekly total pay I make now.

    Hoping to learn enough to jump to a higher paying job soon.

    • sloopyinca

      Excellent! That’s a bold move to make, but I bet it pays off in spades.

    • Lackadaisical

      Congrats on the move. Hopefully the pain is short lived.

    • Gender Traitor

      Best of luck! Welding reminds me – wonder what ever happened to Derpie…

  9. Not Adahn

    That was a better version than the original, by the way.

    No. No it was not. Not only did it do the Disturbed “Sound of Silence” bit where it homogenized and flattened all the verses, They decided to make it all ooh! Edgy! by changing “book” to “gun.”

    • sloopyinca

      Didn’t they make that change because it was made for “Less Than Zero”? An excellent movie, by the way.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Coked up Robert Downey Jr is the best Robert Downey Jr

      • juris imprudent

        I don’t know, Tropic Thunder RDJ is pretty freakin’ awesome.

      • Plisade

        ^^^

      • sloopyinca

        Besides, guns are way cooler than them nerdy-ass books.

      • Not Adahn

        Ooh! Edgy!

      • Not Adahn

        Now that I think about it, that’s not the first S&G song that happened to.

        In “The Dangling Conversation,” the line “is the theater really dead?” got changed in the cover to “is the Church really dead.”

  10. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Ted S Hardest Hit

    Are you proud to be a grammar snob?

    Many people are. But in this video, Mona Chalabi points out why being a stickler for correcting other people’s grammar is not something to be proud of.

    Check this out to get some perspectives on what grammar snobs are overlooking, and how focusing on what you believe to be incorrect language is often a way to silence people.

    • SDF-7

      Ah yes… another entry in the “civilization can’t have standards or commonality (so we can destroy it in favor of substituting a system where WE’RE in charge!)” ilk. Happy happy joy joy.

    • sloopyinca

      I can’t open that link, because o know what’ll happen.

      I’m not going down an EF rabbit hole just to snigger at Ted. Not today, Satan.

      • SDF-7

        Get thee behind me, Nerfherder?

      • Not Adahn

        EF rabbit hole

        Pretty sure that’s LH’s territory.

      • slumbrew

        Giggity.

      • DrOtto

        *inserts Mad TV-Sniggers link here*

    • Grumbletarian

      :hovers over link:

      Everyday Feminism? No brain cancer for me, thanks.

      • UnCivilServant

        Now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time.

    • Rat on a train

      ORTHOGRAPHY is tul af opresors.

    • Lackadaisical

      Grammar is racist.

    • Ted S.

      Having a good command of the grammar of one’s native language makes it easier to learn a foreign language.

      And when you’re trying to learn a foreign language, it’s good to have it used properly by the people you’re trying to communicate with.

      • Rat on a train

        I didn’t get a real in-depth understanding of English grammar until I took German.

      • Vida Hobo

        Same here, but was Russian. All of our teachers were native speakers and they didn’t have a whole lot of good things to say about the American educational system and they had some really valid points. And this was the 90’s.

  11. Rebel Scum

    Grim warnings are issued as oppressive heat wave in US shows no signs of slowing

    We used to just call it “summer”.

    • Grumbletarian

      I expect soon they’ll start naming warm periods the way they name hurricanes and blizzards.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Oh jeez. I can see it now. Some 11/10 flunky at the weather channel will suggest naming the heat waves after high profile people who are “against common sense climate emergency legislation”. Heat Wave Rush Limbaugh followed by Heat Wave Donald Trump and so on.

  12. robc

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  13. slumbrew

    Linked from the Uvalde story:

    Police officer suspended after handcuffing EMT at hospital (suspended with pay, mind you)

    The best part is deep in the story:

    Rochester’s police union, the Locust Club…

    The Locust Club?! That’s just a little too on the nose.

    • Drake

      Why was officer asshole parked in the ambulance bay?

      • R C Dean

        Probably because many hospitals have a break room for ambulance crews with snacks, comfy couches, a TV, etc.

    • Sensei

      As always – this must be mentioned in any article discussion lack of a police accountability.

      Security video obtained by WHEC-TV shows the investigator backing Smith, a Black woman, into a corner as she stood beside a patient on a stretcher.

  14. Rebel Scum

    I can only imagine how well that goes over.

    Historically it might have led to some things involving tar, feathers and/or rope. But that won’t happen these days.

  15. Rebel Scum

    The Texas House of Representatives committee report on the Robb Elementary School shooting revealed the accused school shooter exhibited many warning signs in the years, months and days leading up to the school shooting, but he was still able to legally purchase the assault rifle used in the shooting.

    We just need a few more laws that infringe on the rights of peaceable people in order to fix this.

    • sloopyinca

      That’s their endgame. And they’ll use to diminish the rights of their opponents.
      It’s not enough that this piece of shit made actionable threats, was clearly insane, and constantly put people in fear of their lives. They couldn’t do their job and involuntarily commit the nutjob. But they sure as shit will use their proposed “rules” to take guns away from people who dare call them assholes or call for a dissolution of the country. I guarantee it.

      • Drake

        That’s why there was such disappointment that the mall shooting in Indiana was stopped just as it was getting going.

    • Count Potato

      Or maybe responsible parents?

      • juris imprudent

        You got a license to procreate there pal?

      • Count Potato

        I doubt it’s a problem the government can solve, but it does seem to be a large part of the problem.

    • Akira

      Yea, it’s always easy to look at their behavior after the shooting and classify it as “warning signs”. Classic Monday morning quarterback. The problem is that any dragnet designed to catch these psychos beforehand will catch overwhelmingly people who would never do anything.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    We used to just call it “summer”.

    That’s so quaint.

    • sloopyinca

      Lol, no. Meant to say “violent crime”. It’s corrected now.

  17. robc

    “Magnus Carlsen to not defend World Chess Championship, will focus on World’s Strongest Man title instead”

    ^^^This is why I don’t get to write for the Bee, as that would be my title.

    The first part is true, but I have always thought his name sounded more like a WSM champion than a Chess champion.

    He had hinted after his 5th title, that he might not choose to defend it, but he officially announced it.

    This means that Ding Liren, the World #2, who finished second (after defeating American Hikaru Nakamura in the final round) in the candidates tournament to face Carlsen will face off against candidates winner Ian Nepoimnotevengonnatrytospellit for the World Title.

    • robc

      I looked it up: Ian Nepomniachtchi

      • grrizzly

        It’s a much simpler name in Russian: Непомнящий.

      • UnCivilServant

        Hrmmm… no, not any simpler, I can’t read Cyrillic.

      • Negroni Please

        They were getting too close to proving Carlsen is actually a cyborg. He’s gotta let the hear die down a bit

      • robc

        I think his standard “Get drunk and beat GMs at bullet chess online” is pretty much proof he is a cyborg.

        I mean, sure, he is probably 300-400 ratings pts higher than them, and should win 90% of the time, but being drunk should take off some ratings, right?

      • Brawndo

        I was about to make a quip about how he could just physically intimidate his opponents from across the table but if he’s beating GMs online, then that’s probably not how he does it.

      • Negroni Please

        Carlsen is autism done right

  18. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Things That Didn’t Happen for $600, Alex

    What is going on at Walgreens?

    It’s a question people are asking, calling for a Walgreens boycott after a series of customer stories emerged on social media making claims about troubling barriers to health care and the way personal information is used by the pharmacy chain.

    Over the last few weeks, people have said they were denied birth control pills and condoms at Walgreens. Another customer said she was sent a box of baby formula after buying a pregnancy test at the store.

    • R.J.

      That is super weird. Like you, I question the tuth in this. The article is too damn long. It reads like a hit piece.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Fuck Walgreens. They made me sit in the drive thru for 30 minutes yesterday while they were confirming that my insurance would pay for the covid test rather than charging me $128 for the privilege. Not like I’ve been doing this every other week for 3 months or anything.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Oh, I’ve got no sympathy for those fuckers. They and the rest of the national pharmacy chains pretty much shut down ivermectin and HCQ prescriptions.

        I hope whoever was responsible for those decisions dies a horrible, painful, extended death from bone cancer.

      • Lackadaisical

        Wouldn’t intestinal parasites be a more appropriate fate?

  19. The Late P Brooks

    “The president will make clear tomorrow that climate change is an existential threat to our nation and to the world. And he will also make clear that since Congress is not going to act on this emergency, then he will,” the official said. “In the coming days, he will continue to announce executive actions that we have developed to combat this emergency.”

    I’m starting to think the Biden administration is an existential threat to this nation.

    • Sean

      “Starting”?

      Dude…

    • Drake

      Just when you think he (or his handlers) can’t destroy the country faster, they think up something new.

      Strap in.

      • juris imprudent

        Strap on!

      • Drake

        Think he’ll try using the National Defense Act to force rationing? Electricity? Fuel? Water? Any of those will fuck up farmers and make the food situation exponentially worse.

    • The Other Kevin

      Us: Prices are going up, we can’t afford gas, there’s a war in Europe, we have a crisis at the border, crime is out of control.
      Biden: CLIMATE CHANGE!

      smdh

      • Akira

        Don’t forget “getting to the bottom of January 6th”. Biden truly know what matters to everyday Americans.

    • Lackadaisical

      If he really admits Congress will not act on it, rather than that they haven’t gotten a chance to, that makes the emergency declaration null, imo.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        As if he* recognizes such limits on his power.

        *his handlers

    • Plisade

      “make clear”

      Ugh. More old man yelling coming down range.

  20. Rebel Scum

    basically create penalties for actions before someone is convicted sounds like a rights violation to me.

    How quaint.

  21. Vida Hobo

    home energy assistance for low-income residents and funding to protect communities facing extreme heat

    They’re right, inflation is transitory…continuing to transition upward…

  22. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: One For The Ages

    Anarcha-feminism contends that so long as there is an oppressed group, there is necessarily not freedom. Never mind the existence of other forms of oppression faced by women (racism, transphobia, etc) by definition no woman can represent all women, much in the same way that no ruler can genuinely represent the people. On top of all of this, the existence of a female ruler does not change the fact that at its core the state is a patriarchal machine, and that capitalism has always needed the domination of women to maintain high profit margins.

    • SDF-7

      “We’re an anarcha-feminist commune. We take it in turns, to bitch about the patriarchy for the week. But all the bitching of that officer must be ratified by a biweekly struggle session.

      By a simple majority in the case of internal bitching — but by a two thirds majority in the case of bitching about White Supremacy and Western Civilization…”

      “Denise — there’s some lovely filth down ‘ere!”

    • Grumbletarian

      It’s not coincidence that heads of state and government have traditionally been male, nor the ruling class in general.

      True. When being in charge meant being able to physically overpower people until they did what you wanted, yep, women were at a natural disadvantage. Go tell Mother Nature she’s a misogynist.

      • R C Dean

        Err, pretty sure the ruling class, like most social classes, has always been half female.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *Greece looks around nervously*

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      capitalism has always needed the domination of women to maintain high profit margins

      You got three choices, kid. Be useful by working for the man. Be useful by working for yourself. Be useful by working for your family. There’s no “I don’t wanna work” choice. That impulse is just your parents’ lack of spanking you coming out in a whiny tantrum. Life is worn.

      • SDF-7

        I thought life was pain.. you must be trying to sell us something! 😉

      • juris imprudent

        Had it been UCS saying that, I’d assume work gloves.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Nobody has emptied my trash can in like 3 months. I need a trashman sanitation engineer to get rid of the rotting hooker parts.

      • Compelled Speechless

        ***Raises hands***

        Say, I’m in the market for some spare hooker parts. I can’t find one with thighs big enough for the skin suit I’m making.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Biden’s remarks also come as more than 140 million Americans are bracing for a blistering heat wave this week that is spreading from central California across the Mississippi River Valley and into the Northeast.

    He’s going to use the Defense Production Act to have millions of those hats with little fans on them rushed into production. They should be ready some time in February of 2026.

    • rhywun

      LOL.

      The MSM is like a pig in shit this week, trying to out-kLiMaTe KrIsIs one another.

    • SDF-7

      Wait, what?!? Only going to be 106 today. Again, for July here — this is *good*. We’ve had several years in the 110+ for July / August. Morons.

      Oh and will they then tell the people with the little hats to stand by the windmills for a Perpetual Motion Machine?

  24. Rebel Scum

    The number of home sales in California in June dropped a staggering 21% year-over-year, a report from the California Association of Realtors revealed this week.

    Outside of the early pandemic downturn in 2020, that plunge is the biggest since 2008, during the nadir of the Great Recession.

    As my job is inexorably linked to the housing market I hope I get a decent severance when the crash comes.

    • robc

      There is no way that it won’t come unless interest rates head back south. I know they are still on the historical low side, but compared to the last decade, they are high.

    • rhywun

      What are they going to call the “Great Recession” (which I barely remember) when even the MSM can no longer ignore the fact that the current recession is much worse?

      • sloopyinca

        Great Recession II: Putin’s Boogaloo

      • R C Dean

        The Trumpcession?

      • juris imprudent

        The Great Trumpression?

    • sloopyinca

      Will it be just a sales crash or a valuation crash? I know starts are way down and sales are way off, but from what I can see, the few holes that go on the market here are still fetching the same price they were 6 months ago.

      I sure hope it’s the latter. I want to gobble up some land and I’m waiting on that market to cool off, because it went nuts the last couple of years.

      • SDF-7

        Will the Fed still be funneling money to the big investors to buy up all the land / houses? That’s what’s worrying me about the times we live in.

      • Compelled Speechless

        Is that even a question? Isn’t that the main goal? To relieve you of the burden of ownership of things? Let them take that off your shoulders so you can be happy.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I’m still expecting them to mostly plateau, not fall. We still have the low supply / high demand problem, so a dramatic fall in prices seems unlikely. Maybe that would happen if housing starts stayed high, but builders are much more cautious after the 2008 crash and probably won’t let that happen.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      We’re at the part of the roller coaster ride where people start letting out anticipatory screams.

      The area we’re watching in the Ozarks has softened up quite a bit. Prices are starting to show the first signs of coming down. Everything but the best deals are sitting on the market. We’re a month into this higher interest rate reality, and the recession isn’t even official yet. It’s not getting better from here.

    • PieInTheSky

      Burn down some houses to create more demand?

      I wonder if housing prices / sales will be state dependent or will drop everywhere

      • Drake

        Import millions of illegal immigrants and dump them into random cities across the country. As people try to escape their neighborhoods that just went to crap, they have to pay exorbitant prices for a house in a decent neighborhood.

      • juris imprudent

        Burn down some houses to create more demand?

        California peak fire season doesn’t come until about October.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        When’s Antifa season?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Like certain types of cicada, every 4 years when a republican is in office.

      • Compelled Speechless

        Whenever a cop gets an itchy trigger finger around anyone darker than Michael Jackson.

    • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

      Dude, I remember walking around the offices of one of the mortgage mills after they quick-canned all the staff. Coffee cups sitting on desks, still half full, a broken fishbowl in the elevator, paperwork everywhere, and not a soul around except me and the security guard.

    • robc

      Something about him bothers me, I can’t watch his stuff.

      • Zwak doesn't know what to ignite and what to extinguish

        He doesn’t bug me, Beato bugs me. That dude can kill a song quicker than Loverboy.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    The reported disruptions include drug use by paying customers and, more often than not, members of the public – who often take advantage of the company’s open bathroom policy, which allows nonpaying patrons to use their facilities.

    As a result, the bathrooms have in large part devolved into dens of debauchery, regularly used by vagrants and homeless to do drugs and engage in other illicit behavior.

    “Would you like some debauchery with that latte?”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Just a half-debauch, half-bauch, thanks.

      • SDF-7

        I just ducked in for a quick shot of moral turpitude, thanks.

  26. PieInTheSky

    Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker fart turd and twat

    did I mention I hate my job? I do… but it pays for the booze which I am trying to drink less of cause I became a fat fuck and I hate it… I need to drop 25 pounds and fucking fast. goddamnit

    • SDF-7

      Well, I don’t think you can switch to stand up comedy — Carlin already did that bit.

    • R.J.

      Same boat here. Drink. Fat. Hate.

    • EvilSheldon

      Switch to more expensive booze. You won’t be able to drink as much, and you may enjoy it more.

      • PieInTheSky

        Tried that and I switched back to cheaper as I was still drinking to much and it was hurting my budget. I still drink relatively pricey booze which makes a dent. I probably average 50 USD per bottle of whisky, 20 USD for wine, 3 USD per craft beer. I also do like 2 USD a day for single origin espresso

      • Akira

        Buying only a small amount of booze at any one time worked for my efforts to cut back.

      • Gender Traitor

        Akira! Long time no see! How’s things up nort’?

    • UnCivilServant

      Pounds? Did someone hyjack Pie’s account? He’s normally stuck on Metric.

      • PieInTheSky

        I know you people are bad at maths [sic] and so I occasionally convert

      • Gender Traitor

        maths

        I was told there would be only one math! 😠

      • UnCivilServant

        He’s working with Romanian Numerals.

      • Ted S.

        Nobody needs 23 kinds of math.

      • EvilSheldon

        Anyone who has to do arithmetic on their fingers, should not be snarking at people who can multiply and divide by 2, 3, 4, and 6 in their heads…

      • UnCivilServant

        Some days I can do arthimatic and algebra in my head without a second thought. Other days I go blank at basic subtraction. I think I need a new math coprocessor.

      • Gender Traitor

        My favorite go-to answer for any circumstance suggesting a need for calculation: https://imgur.com/yWQciB8

      • Penguin

        I nominate GT one thread.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Holy fuck the Daily Mail website sucks.

    • Rat on a train

      You don’t care for celebrity news?

    • sloopyinca

      That’s crazy talk. It’s the best news site in the world, next to The Sun.

      • sloopyinca

        I was so close to posting that as my Post story today.

        Also, no scrub top in the world is made to be that form-fitting. And only the gayest of gay men would find that inappropriate or unappealing. NTTAWWT.

    • straffinrun

      No fossil fuels, no nuclear, no beef, no fertilizer.

      What could go wrong?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The only thing green about electric vehicles at the current tech level is the money it puts into political cronies’ pockets.

    • R.J.

      I wish that kept going. Cut off too soon.

  28. Gender Traitor

    ::walks like an Egyptian:: Huh. Can’t do that neck thing the way I used to. Wonder why that is. Must’ve been that fender bender years ago when my Festiva got rear-ended by an Explorer and I bailed out of the PT too soon for fear I’d have to pay for it out of pocket. Can’t be age…

    • straffinrun

      Amerigo Vespucci never watched where he was going.

    • The Other Kevin

      Too primitive? Did you see all those black weapons of war that can spray 1000 rounds per second? If anything it would be unfair for Ukraine to have that kind of dangerous firepower.

    • Rebel Scum

      for as much as $150 each

      Must be junk…or Hi-Points…

      • UnCivilServant

        My least expensive firearm was my Mosin ($79) I’m surprised at how much Mosins are going for these days. The Hi-Points were $119.

      • Animal

        Must be junk…or Hi-Points…

        But you repeat yourself.

  29. Count Potato

    “Now MORE families threaten to sue Sesame Place after videos emerge of Rosita ‘snubbing black children in favor of white kids’ – despite theme park saying giant Muppet simply couldn’t see them

    The aunt of one of the girls, Leslie Mac, who works as an ‘anti-racism trainer’ and was named in the top 100 Woke Women of 2020, said her family plans to sue the theme park and they have retained a lawyer.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11031017/More-videos-emerge-appearing-Sesame-Streets-Rosita-snubbing-black-children.html

    Of course they are.

    • Not Adahn

      Blood in the water.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      In all fairness, Sesame Street has been courting the woke for years. They deserve whatever blowback they get for being stupid enough to do so.

      • EvilSheldon

        Ayo. This couldn’t be any more obvious a setup if Mz. Mac had released her press package the day before, but my sympathy for Sesame Street can’t even be detected with a scanning electron microscope.

      • Sean

        Yes. No sympathy.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      How good can you see out of those stupid outfits? I’d guess not well.

    • juris imprudent

      top 100 Woke Women

      RANKING??? How fucking patriarchal!

      • Compelled Speechless

        How convenient that someone went out of their way to make a list of the top race grifters. I’ve been assured by woke people that only alt-right types use the word woke. Also, how is Zendaya allowed to be #1 if she’s dating a rich cis white male? She’s literally blowing the patriarchy.

    • R C Dean

      One thing the video I saw doesn’t show is how Rosita reacted to other children. Of any color.

    • Ownbestenemy

      ‘The aunt of one of the girls, Leslie Mac, who works as an ‘anti-racism trainer’ she probably sees oxygen as racist..

      My niece works as a character.. she said field of view is trash and when your handler says it’s time to go,, even in a middle of parade, you go.

      • Not Adahn

        Oxygen was invented by the African King Mboletumbo, but stolen by the Yakub-spawn Lavoisier! Of course it’s racist.

    • Lackadaisical

      This is why you never bend the knee.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    The 345,000 home sales for the month of June represented a drop of 8.4% from May, and the median sale price was also down 4% from the previous month. The cost of a single-family home in California was $863,790 in June.

    “California’s housing market continues to moderate from the frenzied levels seen in the past two years, which is creating favorable conditions for buyers who lost offers or sat out during the fiercely competitive market,” said California Association of Realtors President Otto Catrina in the report.

    The dramatic downturn comes as mortgage rates soar, turning off buyers. After hitting record lows during the early pandemic, mortgage rates have almost doubled since the start of the year. The current average 30-year fixed rate is about 5.5%, up from 3.2% in January.

    Lots of noise, not much signal.

    “As mortgage rates soar.” They’re still below historical “normal” I suspect. Thanks, Greenspan. Thanks, Bernanke. Thanks, Yellin. You fucked us good.

    • SDF-7

      “Zee? You vill be happy, ja?”

    • Certified Public Asshat

      GOP Governor Larry Hogan

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        “Barely a Republican” Republican

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Potato did ask “any kind of Republican.”

      • Count Potato

        I don’t know how “fortified” elections there are now.

      • juris imprudent

        The second GOP governor of Maryland in the last 50 years (post Agnew).

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Is Liz Cheney available?

    • Rat on a train

      Liz Cheney?

      • SDF-7

        If we say her name one more time is she going to appear in the server room?

      • Rat on a train

        She will subpoena us to appear at the Court for the Protection of Democracy.

    • Rat on a train

      Republicans at least have a chance in congressional races now that the districts aren’t as gerrymandered as they’ve been the last couple decades.

    • Rebel Scum

      ran ads backing him over moderate candidate

      This strategy failed in 2016.

      • juris imprudent

        How about we DOUBLE-DOWN on it – that’ll make it work, right?

    • Brawndo

      Reminds me of a Jimmy Dore Show clip where he shows the DNC and other big donors donating to less moderate Republicans so that the centrist RINO would get primaried.

  31. Rebel Scum

    Because summer heat caused the fires…

    BREAKING: The London Fire Brigade has declared a major incident in response to the surge in fires across the capital as temperatures exceed 40C. …

    Watch live: Helicopter footage shows fires that have broken out as temperatures across the UK exceed 40C for the first time.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Nice of them to tie the two together. The British press is as bad as ours.

    • SDF-7

      Maybe a link with poorly wired A/C solutions? Otherwise, no argument.

      • Lackadaisical

        That was my thought. Probably that and state mandated high flammable construction materials.

    • Fatty Bolger

      It’s all those people lighting fires to keep cool.

      • R.J.

        Beat me to it.

  32. The Other Kevin

    Those are both great songs. Hazy Shade of Winter came out when I was in high school, and it reminds me of a friend I had, a few years older than me, who died in a drunk driving accident that year. (He went to a party over Christmas break, had too much, and got into a car). Really great guy, was always nice to me even though he was older and didn’t have to acknowledge me. I think everyone has that kind of story from high school.

  33. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    Home sales here appear to be slowing a bit, but still pretty robust pricing. Hoping that will change soon.

    And these chicks were adorable.

    They were (some still are). And talented. Excellent choices!

  34. db

    I’m not familiar with this LIV/PGA controversy. What’s the tl;dr?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Greg Norman got the Saudis (or some other uberrich sandal wearers over there) to underwrite a new golf tour that pays better, particularly for lower finishers.

      Golfers are saying “Fuck yeah, we’ll take the money.”

      PGA is freaking out and shitting all over everyone.

      • straffinrun

        Makes sense he’d want second place to get more money.

    • Sensei

      Alternative tour. Saudi Arabia bad. Unapproved competition to PGA bad. If you play there you can’t play the PGA.

      No heroes here.

      • PieInTheSky

        To be fair, Saudi Arabia bad is true.

    • PieInTheSky

      I still don;t get why anyone would watch golf. I get playing it. But watching?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Before it became The Tiger Woods Show, it was better than pre-game NFL

      • Drake

        It’s an individual competition and I find the back-nine of a big tournament an interesting test of both skill and nerves.

        And it because of it’s nature, it has far less wokeness than other sports – all of which I’ve given up watching.

      • PieInTheSky

        at least the clubs should be carried by hot women in bikinis

      • EvilSheldon

        It’s relaxing. You can follow it while snoozing on the couch, without feeling like you’ve lost the plot.

    • sloopyinca

      The argument is that the Saudis are using sport to wash away their human rights sins and the PGA are shitting their pants because they’re drawing in some big names (with big money). Golf purists are upset because of the three day tournament format.
      The super-woke are up in arms even though they don’t really play golf, but this is horrible even though they all support Palestine. And sportswriters are bitching because they need to be on the right side of history.
      None of them will address the fact that Aramco is the largest sponsor of the LPGA and has been for some time and that without them, womens golf would have much smaller prize money, however.

    • juris imprudent

      You can’t shit on OUR monopoly!

    • Drake

      The PGA is handling the whole thing really poorly. Rather than step up and compete, they are trying to turn the best golfers into the world into pariahs and ruin their careers.

      Golf is the only professional sport I still watch regularly as it hasn’t gone too woke yet.

      • Raven Nation

        “they are trying to turn the best golfers into the world into pariahs”

        I guess the thought process is the guys at the top might prefer to win majors than to make the extra money.

      • sloopyinca

        Perhaps. But I don’t see Augusta playing along. They’ll just invite the best players on LIV to play )in addition to past champions getting an auto-invite). And they can still qualify their way in to the US and British Opens. As for the PGA Championship, I doubt they’ll worry that much about it when they come up with their own “major” that is the equivalent.

      • juris imprudent

        Isn’t the LIV program premised more on socialism – compete but it doesn’t matter so much if you win, you still get a fat check?

      • sloopyinca

        Yes, I think they’re treating players more like the NFL treats the Detroit Lions. Or how MLB treats the Orioles. Or how every league treats teams from Phoenix.

      • Sensei

        It is rather humorous to hear big winners with multimillion dollar net worths say “they have to think about their families”

      • Drake

        While they certainly aren’t poor, I wonder what the actual take-home is after local and federal taxes, caddies, trainers, agents, travel expenses, etc. Like boxers, they might put 25% of the purse into their pockets.

  35. PieInTheSky

    Jane Goodall in Davos: “All these [environmental] things we talk about wouldn’t be a problem if there was the size of population that there was 500 years ago.”

    The world population 500 years ago is estimated between 420 and 540 million — 6.7 billion fewer people than today.

    https://twitter.com/ALilyBit/status/1549127159238852608

    Hear me out if we kill all socialists / communists / actual fascists / eco nuts / and belgians, we would drop the population a bit

      • Rebel Scum

        That roadkill cleanup is going to be a nightmare.

    • The Other Kevin

      Agreed. Let’s start with anyone who’s ever been to Davos, they’re producing 1000x as much carbon as anyone else.

      • Lackadaisical

        Damn straight.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Feel free to set an example for everyone else Jane.

      • PieInTheSky

        just run the numbers see what they say

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m starting to think they blew up the Georgia Guidestones themselves to hide their actual intent.

    • straffinrun

      When you don’t place human life at the top of your morality, you’re the chimp.

    • sloopyinca

      I’m not taking population advice from some lady who fucked a monkey. Sorry, I just can’t.

      • PieInTheSky

        at least she used protection hence no monkeypox

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Wut

      • slumbrew

        It gets lonely out in the bush.

      • PieInTheSky

        thats why the bush needs trimming

  36. PieInTheSky

    Seven new wind turbines that will tower over the Golan at the height of Tel Aviv skyscrapers were given the green light Monday by the National Infrastructure Council. If Environmental Protection Minister Tamar Zandberg has her way, they will be the last ones for at least five years.

    Zandberg said Monday she was seeking a five-year moratorium on new wind turbine projects to allow for an assessment of existing turbines’ effects on nature, and particularly on birds and bats.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/environment-minister-seeking-moratorium-on-new-wind-farms-to-probe-impact-on-nature/

  37. Lachowsky

    bringing “steamy temperatures into the 90s”

    Bunch of pussies. It was 108 here yesterday.

  38. Count Potato

    “The Democratic Governors Association funded Trump ally Dan Cox, with ads supporting his candidacy. They succeeded, as they have in other races helping “stop the steal” Republicans. Now comes the pivot to Democrats’ fall message: these candidates are threats to American democracy.”

    https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1549672313892765696

    So that’s why.

    • PieInTheSky

      Maybe they just like cox

    • Plisade

      So, democracy is a threat to democracy. Got it.

      • juris imprudent

        Voters are the threat to Democracy.

      • Compelled Speechless

        I unironically agree. Voters are the main reason I don’t want anything to do with democracy. That and the “people” we have to “vote” on.

  39. Ownbestenemy

    That mid-air from the weekend is bad. Looks like one was doing touch and goes, so maybe student pilot. Other was in from Idaho. The Cessna (doing touch and go) was on runway 30R. The Piper overflow the airfield and entered into an extended left turn, cleared for 30L. Piper didn’t line up for 30L, instead went 30R.

    • slumbrew

      Oooof.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Oopsie

      Was the tower paying attention and screaming loudly?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Sounds like one pilot is/was well known to AT. AT gretted by first name as they entered airspace.

    • PieInTheSky

      so it was a near miss?

  40. Count Potato

    “Why are we doing trials if when a trial shows no clinical benefit in babies & toddlers (i.e. no statistical significance) the FDA & CDC authorizes a vaccine anyway?? This is a very concerning precedent.”

    https://twitter.com/MartyMakary/status/1548128317932335105

    “Health experts are quitting the NIH and CDC in droves because they’re embarrassed by ‘bad science’ – including vaccinating children under 5 to ‘make their advice palatable to the White House,’ doctors claim”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11015235/Health-experts-quitting-NIH-CDC-droves-embarrassed-bad-science.html

    • Count Potato

      “As Dr. Birx said in an April’20 press conf “The intent is right now that those, if someone dies with COVID 19, we are counting that as a COVID 19 death.”

      It’s still true. +New variants increase the ratio of *incidental* Covid hospitaliz & death

      The compass is broken/misleading”

      https://twitter.com/MartyMakary/status/1549696260399140864

      SCIENCE!!!

      • Rebel Scum

        if someone dies with COVID 19, we are counting that as a COVID 19 death.

        I said it was a farce after hearing her say that.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Those sad health experts can go fuck themselves. They can either stand up and put their names to statements about the criminality of their employers or they can live the rest of their lives in shame.

      • Count Potato

        Are they going to die of shame, or die with shame?

      • Brawndo

        *LIV clap*

      • juris imprudent

        Maybe they could all move to Uvalde, TX and hang out with the local cops.

      • The Gunslinger

        Why not both?

    • Raven Nation

      Have a friend of ours who was almost in tears over the weekend because of the “attacks” on government institutions such as the CDC. He shared his opinions via text with my wife then basically guilt-tripped her when she refuted some of his points. Then he called to apologize but continued the guilt-tripping. She had to keep me away from the ‘phone b/c she knew what I’d say.

      He’s basically a good guy but when he gets on a crusade he’s almost insufferable (he’s another person whose brain was broken by Trump).

      • Rebel Scum

        “attacks” on government institutions

        The US was founded on blind adherence to government. It is known.

      • Raven Nation

        The thing that got me was just how sad he was. And, of course, the subtext was that Trump had ruined these institutions and now MAGA types were piling on.

      • one true athena

        Just send him the sections from Birxs book where she admits to fucking lying.

    • Sensei

      That’s some good snark right there.

  41. Pope Jimbo

    Speaking of Kings… King Walz quietly changes testing requirements for govt drones.

    Unvaccinated Minnesota state government employees are no longer required to take weekly COVID-19 tests to keep reporting for duty, a quiet shift that hasn’t fully settled disputes around workplace vaccination policies.

    When Gov. Tim Walz announced the vaccine-or-test policy last August, he said the state was “leading by example and working to get our public employees vaccinated to protect themselves, their coworkers and their communities.”

    Walz must be seeing some polling numbers that have him worried.

    • UnCivilServant

      New York very quietly dropped the requirement back in June. Just an email to those who hadn’t submitted proof of getting a clot shot.

    • straffinrun

      Maybe he doesn’t wanna know the results the unvaxxed would yield.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Like I’ve mentioned, I see all the western states covid # for Air Traffic and technicians. The overwhelming amount of reported cases for us is vaccinated with barely a blip of unvaccinated.

      They know the numbers and cannot possibly hold unvaccinated accountable or test them when they aren’t the ones showing up to work sick

    • PieInTheSky

      spotify is uncool

  42. creech

    Well, that was rather bizarre. I just saw a TD Bank ad on television where they featured a drag queen reading stories to little kids, and TD came right out and said they were proud to endorse the concept. Now, I don’t give a rat’s ass if some parents voluntarily want to send their kids to hear Lady Chablis read a story. But I can’t understand why TD Bank wanted to get behind this pretty controversial issue and risk losing many of their customers. If you bank at TD, or hold their stock, you might want to think twice about a company that goes completely down this rabbit hole.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      ESG

      • juris imprudent

        or FDIC?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Toi be more clear, you have to have a good ESG score to be able to raise capital from Blackrock, Vanguard, et al.

        So this may be an indicator that TD is short on cash.

      • Lachowsky

        This. ESG ia fucking evil and needs to be killed. It has infiltrated damn near everything and is going to further fuck this country. BTW, Sri Lanka has a perfect ESG score.

      • Tundra

        Sri Lanka went to shit in a matter of months. The fertilizer ban was instituted in the spring of 2021, lifted in November, but it was too late.

        We are more resilient than Sri Lanka, of course, but it’s still gonna leave a mark.

        My question is how to kill ESG?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It will die along with the financial industry, particularly managed funds.

        Problem is, the financial industry runs this country and the Fed.

      • Lachowsky

        I dont know. I was talking with the plant general manager about it last week. He agrees that iy all horseshit and giant grifting opportunity, but on the other hand, corporate is giving us several million dollars to put a new recouperator and do an automation upgraxe on our reheat furnace so that we can make it slightly more efficient and satisfy some of the E part of of the ESG equation that is being pushed on us.

      • juris imprudent

        Efficiency is not the E in question!!!

      • Plisade

        How? Defund HR departments. Promote from within from among operations people. Avoid business consultants like the plague. …

        We’ve got conservative leadership but for some reason they’ve given HR a free hand and sure as shit here comes mandatory woke training.

        Unconscious bias training? WTF? Are the instructors mind readers? Unconscious bias is the dark matter of disparate outcomes.

      • juris imprudent

        You need to kill a lot of lawyers first – particularly those who are pushing regulations and lawsuits for the activist front. Boards are always afraid of litigation and bad PR.

      • Plisade

        Good point. And from that perspective, my approach is to manage up and keep the woke shit from rolling downhill, or at least to slow it down enough to avoid going broke before ESG dies.

      • R C Dean

        In a sufficiently bad economic downturn, ESG will be burned off as its negative effects on financial return can no longer be papered over.

      • Lackadaisical

        We might need to go all the way to wasteland warrior stage to get rid of this cancer, and I’m not sure that will work.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Do they have special checking accounts for groomers?

      • Lackadaisical

        Make 2 to qualifying direct deposits in the first 3 months and you get an hour alone with a child.

    • Rat on a train

      But I can’t understand why TD Bank wanted to get behind this pretty controversial issue and risk losing many of their customers.
      The last couple years have shown that risk assessment is not the norm. Ideology trumps rational thought.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Unplugging from the large national corporations is a good idea generally. They’re not going to be getting any less forward about their depravity in the near future. At my company, the theme has been to move from education to action. It’s only going to get worse as that drive pushes down to the follower companies.

    • Sean

      I moved my money away from them when Canada was snatching bank accounts. I still maintain an account with them for emergency purposes, but really don’t bank with them anymore.

    • grrizzly

      I went to Lady Chablis’s show in person. The movie was much better.

  43. slumbrew

    Just got my haircut and was talking with my barber about the usual shit – how the covid response is overblown, vaccinating children is insane and unnecessary and how I don’t understand that people are still walking around outside with masks on.

    Didn’t see the guy the next chair over with the mask on. Whoops. Sorry for your mental illness, dude.

    (really, I just don’t want my barber or the owner to have to deal with any grief here in progtown).

    • PieInTheSky

      I don’t usually talk to the barber I cannot think of anything to say which makes it worse because I feel the silence is awkward.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You don’t discuss the latest trends in frosted hair colors for men?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        It’s the zoomer perm now.

      • Rat on a train

        What are the latest hair trends for the non-gendered?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Shaved sides and back, mid length blue top, complete lack of any sun exposure to the scalp or face?

      • Lackadaisical

        Scarily accurate.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Consider that a win.

    • Mojeaux

      Dude, I would pay good money for a hairdresser who didn’t speak or make me speak. Do my hair and maybe give me a scalp massage. I’m paying for the ASMR.

      • Lackadaisical

        I rarely get a haircut, but it is weirdly calming.

      • UnCivilServant

        I need a haircut, but I have trouble finding a place I like that is reliably open.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I can’t stand getting a hair cut either. Can’t stand them touching me. I’m using all my brain cells to stay still and not leap from the chair screaming. I can’t talk too.

  44. Pope Jimbo

    Instead of money, the county should be prosecuting and imprisoning the government fuckups behind this.

    Hennepin County will pay more than a million dollars to settle a lawsuit brought by the family of Arianna Hunziker, a toddler who was murdered by her foster parents while under the supervision of the county.

    Hunziker was just 3 years old when she was found “severely malnourished and dehydrated”. She’d been bound to her bed with sheets which had been wrapped around her neck and body.

    Her foster parents, Sherrie and Bryce Dirk were convicted of Arianna’s murder. Sherrie Dirk was Arianna’s aunt and Hennepin County had placed the little girl and her brother with the family.

    • creech

      I’d still like to see Obama’s college application and what he put down for “citizen of…”

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Here it comes

    The European Union has unveiled its emergency gas rationing plan — a day before it fears Russia could drastically cut the flow of natural gas to the continent.

    The “Save Gas for a Safe Winter” plan announced Wednesday sets a target for the 27 member states to reduce their gas demand by 15% between August and March next year. That reduction is based on countries’ average gas consumption during the same months over the previous five years.
    The plan is focused on curtailing demand by businesses and in public buildings, rather than private homes. Among the proposed measures, the EU Commission is encouraging industry to switch to alternate energy sources — including coal where necessary — and to introduce auction systems that compensate companies for reducing their gas consumption.
    The Commission is also hoping to pass a new law that would give it the power to force states to reduce their demand for gas “when there is a substantial risk of a severe gas shortage or an exceptionally high gas demand,” it said in a press release.

    National sovereignty is such an antiquated and inefficient notion. Prepare yourselves for your new utopian fascist paradise.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The plan is focused on curtailing demand by businesses and in public buildings

      The German steel industry is in for a rough ride given they’ve been shifting to NG.

      • Lachowsky

        Reheat furnaces, which are the first step of the rolling process are all natural gas fired and use a ton of it. If you dont have sifficient NG, you dont have a mill. Period.

      • db

        And you can’t just start them up and shut them down on short notice either.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Maybe some of the countries that are less amenable to this bullshit will go their own way. Screw the EU.

      • juris imprudent

        Hmm re-unified Germany, break up of European ‘system’, what could possibly go wrong?

  46. The Late P Brooks

    EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Wednesday that a total shut off of Russian gas was a “likely scenario.”
    “Russia is blackmailing us. Russia is using energy as a weapon,” she said in a press conference announcing the new plan.
    The pipeline is a vital artery linking Russia’s vast gas reserves to the continent via Germany. It delivers 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year, or nearly 40% of the bloc’s total pipeline imports from Russia.

    Weaponizing the financial system against Russia might not seem like such a great plan, now.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      No kidding, what did they expect to happen?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The End of History, duh…

    • slumbrew

      Didn’t they laugh at Trump when he warned the EU that their dependence on Russian energy was going to be used against them? How’s that going?

      • PieInTheSky

        that was ages ago why bring the past into it we should live in the present

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It wouldn’t have been used against them if they hadn’t gone along with the Ukraine/NATO bullshit. Does anyone really think that Russia wanted to turn off the gas after investing billions in these pipelines?

      • Lachowsky

        Russia should have shut the gas off back in february and demanded that ukraine not join nato and that the minsk accords be implemented. Then we could have avoided all this mess.

      • R C Dean

        The problem with Minsk is Russia has always taken the position that it isn’t a party and isn’t bound by them. I don’t think they provide a basis for resolving the conflict until that changes.

      • Drake

        The U.S. and Ukraine took that position from the outset too.

      • R C Dean

        So its really more a “proposal” than anything else.

        Don’t get me wrong. From the little I know, they sound a like a decent basis for a cease-fire and a start on sorting this out. But Russia demanding that everybody else agree to Minsk isn’t going to get it done.

  47. Scruffy Nerfherder

    When the Butcher of Laos is telling you to knock it off…

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kissinger-warns-biden-against-endless-confrontation-with-china/ar-AAZL2VS

    “Biden and previous administrations have been too much influenced by the domestic aspects of the view of China,” Kissinger, 99, said in an interview Tuesday in New York with Bloomberg News Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait. “It is, of course, important to prevent Chinese or any other country’s hegemony.”

    But “that is not something that can be achieved by endless confrontations,” he added in the interview produced by Intelligence Squared US and How To Academy. He’s previously said the increasingly adversarial relations between the US and China risk a global “catastrophe comparable to World War I.”

    • creech

      Kissinger is 99, so what does he care? The future belongs to the young folks – Hunter Biden, Chelsea Clinton, AOC, Pete Buttgagger, you know the Top. Men. and Women.

      • Compelled Speechless

        You bigot. There are more than two genders. What about top whatever the fuck Rachel Levine is?

    • Lachowsky

      catastrophe comparable to World War I.

      I think he is underselling his point a bit there.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      This is about HIMARS and State’s implicit endorsement of the idea of missile strikes on Crimea with that system.

      If Ukraine goes that way, Russia’s going to escalate dramatically. I don’t think that’s an idle threat.

      • Rebel Scum

        I don’t think that’s an idle threat.

        And our leadership is stupid enough to keep pushing the issue instead of saying “OK, you’ve made your point. Let’s negotiate a peace.”

      • R C Dean

        Escalate how? I don’t think they’ve been holding back, at least in Ukraine. You think they’ll go nuclear if Crimea catches a few missiles?

        And why should Crimea be off limits? Its not Russia, so attacking Russian forces/assets in Crimea isn’t attacking Russia.

      • Rebel Scum

        Its not Russia

        Well, they occupied it years ago, so…

        You think they’ll go nuclear if Crimea catches a few missiles?

        No, but they will alter the deal. And that could be a negative thing.

      • R C Dean

        Alter the deal, how?

        Well, they occupied it years ago,

        Kinda like how they occupied Eastern Europe years ago? Still, I guess at some point you let an invader keep what they’ve seized. Maybe Crimea is at that point.

      • UnCivilServant

        The Right of Conquest is the oldest form of land tenure on the books.

      • R C Dean

        Very true. Typically, though, conquest wasn’t finalized until you had finished off the opposing sovereign. If you pick off a border province, expect it to be contested until then.

      • Lackadaisical

        I believe they officially annexed it as part of real Russia, unlike other areas.

      • R C Dean

        Good point. I had forgotten that.

      • Rebel Scum

        CA is not the US I guess.

        how?

        They claimed to want the regions currently occupied for security reasons and because they are generally “pro-Russia”. I can only assume escalation of the conflict if Ukraine starts using west supplied long range rockets to attack Russian territory.

        It’s really past time for Ukraine to make concessions in the interest of peace. The conflict (that they can’t win…) will end and lives will be saved.

      • R C Dean

        I’m still thinking Putin meant it when he said, essentially, that all of Ukraine should be reunited with Russia. Remember, Russia’s first assault, and I still think the iniitial schwerpunkt, was on Kiev, not the “pro-Russia” parts. They are also taking the southern coast, which as far as I know isn’t “pro-Russia”. Regardless, I doubt a few missiles in Crimea are going to change whatever Russia does next.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Eh, Crimea’s been a Russian port since 1783. It’s majority Russian and it’s inclusion as part of Ukraine is largely a political artifact.

        Also, being their only year round warm water port, there’s no way in hell they’ll let it go. Do you think we’d give up Guam which is thousands of miles away in the middle of the ocean without a significant fight?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Russia has significant cruise missile capabilities. I can easily see them using those against multiple targets in Western Ukraine including any and all political leaders.

        The conflict goes from slow grind to scorched earth.

      • R C Dean

        I can easily see them using those against multiple targets in Western Ukraine

        They already are.

        including any and all political leaders.

        Interesting. I wonder if they already have them on their target list, but haven’t been able to locate them well enough for a strike.

      • R C Dean

        The conflict goes from slow grind to scorched earth.

        Its a slow grind because the Russians can’t move any faster. They tried, remember? I doubt there is much they can do to escalate to scorched earth (beyond the range of their artillery, which is already in scorched earth mode).

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They tried fast capture, not obliteration. Russia could easily go to just dropping bombs from altitude and then the calls for a no-fly zone would really start.

        Additionally by using the HIMARs system with the extended range, they’re guaranteeing that Russia will go for the entire southern coast including Odessa in order to form a larger buffer zone against attacks in the Black Sea.

        In any case, it would be yet another escalatory move that threatens to broaden the war. We keep proceeding under the assumption that somehow Russia can be “defeated” when in reality they’re willing to go all the way on this and they’ve got nukes.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of “banks”…

    I was checking out Chime yesterday. Holy shit- it’s like the website was made by teenage girls, for teenage girls. “Spending is fun! And so, so easy!”

    How do you actually deposit money into the account? Deposit? Who puts money IN their bank account?

    • PieInTheSky

      Spending is fun! And so, so easy!” – yes that is the problem

    • whiz

      They really push having you direct-deposit your paycheck (“get your money up to 2 days earlier”).

    • EvilSheldon

      I think I just had a stroke.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Cable fetish?

      • EvilSheldon

        No, the other kind of stroke. Not the fun kind.

    • slumbrew

      From a friend at [huge storage company], back in the day:

      https://ibb.co/WWbr7Sj

      • juris imprudent

        Hope there was some marinara to go with that.

      • Pope Jimbo

        When I was a repairmen for IBM back in the day, we had a couple customers who would move stuff in their data centers and rather than move cables, they’d just run new ones over the old ones.

        I was a glorified temp worker and I could get time and a half working on those jobs. That was $15/hr! The full time repairmen would make me be the tunnel rat who had to crawl under the raised floor.

      • whiz

        That reminds me, when I was in college, a comp sci student bought an old, used IBM mainframe and put it in his spare bedroom. This was circa 1975. It was so big and heavy that he had to put supports in the basement under the floor.

      • UnCivilServant

        What was he planning to do with it?

      • whiz

        Run programs on it just for the hell of it, because he could. Although back then we had to submit punch cards in batch jobs to run a program, wait around until it ran and somebody behind the desk was kind enough to tear off our output and bring it to the front desk. So maybe he just wanted faster turn-around.

    • R C Dean

      How’d they get into our server room?

      • slumbrew

        You may tell your IT guys that their cable management makes a pile of internet randos very sad.

        They should go to the box and feel shame.

    • UnCivilServant

      I’m often the first to joke about the state and state IT, but our cable management is top-notch, even when I was pulling cables in the agency datacenter it was fairly orderly and color-coded. So I can’t crack jokes about it looking familiar.

      Now my home computer on the other hand…

    • Fatty Bolger

      It’s funny, because nothing has every really invalidated Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton’s findings, and prediction of a 20K long-term cooling trend, based on an long term temperature data from core samples, which bore out previous findings and aligned with the Milankovitch cycles. That’s still by far the most likely future scenario.

      Of course, their findings were abused by the alarmist media to try and create panic about an imminent “ice age”, with glaciers on our doorsteps overnight. At least until they found a much better scam in global warming, err, climate change, err, climate crisis. But that doesn’t make the actual science wrong.

    • EvilSheldon

      ‘Absolute wet wipe’ has been added to my insult lexicon.

    • Pope Jimbo

      When my daughter was starting college we were walking with her on campus and there were a bunch of yahoos playing quidditch on the quad at THE U of M. The Altar Boys still talk about that as Peak Dumbassery.

      • Pope Jimbo

        It would also be funny if JK Rowling sued them for some sort of IP infringement.

        Why not torture the fuckers?

    • rhywun

      OFFS I expected Bee.

      Rowling laughs from her swimming pool full of gold coins.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      As a terrible millennial, I did read and watch all of Harry Potter and found it to be generally enjoyable…

      but quidditch is so fucking dumb. Rowling is clearly not a sports ball person because having a side game within a game where the side game renders everything else going on moot is incredibly absurd. And yet, grown adults pretend to play it.

      • Urthona

        It would actually be cool without the bullshit role Harry Potter plays.

      • rhywun

        side game within a game where the side game renders everything else going on moot

        Yeah, that bothered me too.

      • Ozymandias

        Even the HP nerds who don’t know sports (my sister) know that it makes no sense. Anyone who can do basic math picks it up instantly.

        “So, uhhh… these 20 people over here fucking kill each other to get a handful of points, but one dickhead catches this little thing and it’s worth 30X what they’re doing? And instantly ends the match?”
        “…Oh. Yeah… geez, I wonder where we should focus our efforts?”
        So fucking dumb.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    The future belongs to the young folks – Hunter Biden, Chelsea Clinton, AOC, Pete Buttgagger, you know the Top. Men. and Women.

    Egad!

    • juris imprudent

      I would pay money for the porno of Hunter and AOC.

      • Animal

        Why, have you run out of syrup of ipecac?

      • Pope Jimbo

        He likes strapon/pegging pr0n. Don’t judge him.

      • juris imprudent

        LULZ, and if he did manage to fuck her, the hate would be epic.

      • Animal

        That much is certain.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    catastrophe comparable to World War I.

    I think he is underselling his point a bit there.

    No kidding. If they manage to get this thing spooled up, WWI is going to look like a combination Sunday School picnic and ’60s hippy love-in.

    • Rebel Scum

      Especially considering the escalation of the carnage from TGW to WWII…WWIII has nukes.

    • slumbrew

      what kind of degen eats corned beef and drinks retsina for breakfast

      FIFY

    • Nephilium

      Corned beef hash is wonderful breakfast food. But it pairs better with a good pint.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Keep your judgements to yourself Pie!

      They needed those calories to keep up their Herculean efforts.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Here in Sunny Minnesoda too

      DFL Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan on Tuesday criticized her Republican rival for what she said were disturbing comments about abortion.

      Flanagan, who is Gov. Tim Walz’s running mate and supports abortion rights, criticized Matt Birk for recent anti-abortion comments.

      Birk is the running mate of Republican-endorsed candidate for governor Scott Jensen.

      The Walz-Flanagan campaign released a video of Birk speaking at the National Right to Life Conference in Georgia on the day that Roe v. Wade was overturned. In the video, Birk said of abortion after a rape that “two wrongs won’t make a right.”

      He also said our culture “promotes abortion” by telling women they should “have careers,” said that pro-choice advocates like to “go to the rape card.”

      His career with the Vikings must have taught Birk how to snatch defeat from victory.

    • R C Dean

      Our Republican AG is taking the position that abortions shouldn’t be allowed, at any stage of pregnancy to prevent serious bodily harm to the pregnant woman. He is flirting with the idea that making referrals to out-of-state abortion providers are also a crime. Our limp-dick governor is taking his traditional limp-dick position on all this by doing and saying nothing, although he signed a bill earlier this year that clearly allowed both out-of-state referrals, abortions to prevent serious bodily harm, and elective abortions before 15 weeks.

    • Vida Hobo

      and if a doctor is treating a pregnant person and the unborn child, it is in line with standards of medical care to determine who can legitimately be saved. To add exceptions would be to give priority to one patient over the other, he said.

      Not arguing that they’re not stupid, but I read that more as trying to close a loophole in ambiguity of the definition of danger to the life of the mother. Those exceptions are about to get some wild tests.

      • juris imprudent

        The sponsor is someone who can’t abide anyone not having the same religious beliefs he does. Fucking toad.

      • R C Dean

        I read that more as trying to close a loophole in ambiguity of the definition of danger to the life of the mother

        I don’t. I think danger to the life of the mother is as clean as you will get, and really runs into issues only when you have doubts about the good faith of the physician (which you can’t legislate away). Making it a multi-factor equation, weighing the likelihood of the fetus surviving v. the mother surviving, isn’t going to make it simpler and cleaner. Generally speaking, if the mother’s life is in danger, the fetus is unlikely to survive in any event.

    • juris imprudent

      C’mon man, just a couple of gallons!