Tuesday Morning Links

by | Oct 11, 2022 | Daily Links | 422 comments

Ready for another run?

The Chiefs piled on to the Raiders’ misery this season after the latter went for two instead of trying to tie the game by kicking an extra point.  The MLB divisional series are on tap today with all four matchups set to take the field. The FIA issued its certificates of compliance and Red Bull put their toe (slightly) across the line, but shouldn’t face a severe penalty for last year. And that’s gonna be enough to cause Toto Wolff to lose his shit, which is always good.  And there’s quite a slate of UCL matches today across the pond.  And that’s it for sports.

This is excellent news! I wonder if all the anti-semitism in Europe will lead to them diverting the find to other locales.

Food

What a bunch of swine. No, for real. This will be an interesting case. And I think California should prevail. They have a right to determine what’s sold inside their state and I don’t see this as a regulation on producers outside their borders. Those producers are free to export elsewhere. Although that pesky interstate commerce clause may enter the chat and I could be proven wrong.

Well, it ain’t done yet. Strangely I had to scroll a few pages before finding this piece. I wonder if that’s because the midterms are around the corner. Nah, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

Excellent! We need more of this. Sorry Yale, but silencing dissent by those who don’t play along with your hivemind experiment has consequences.

“This is fine.”
-Adams

Of course the city never sleeps. You can’t sleep when you’re sitting in a busy emergency room after being beaten half to death.

This is hilarious. Sorry you feel entitled to “courtesy” the rest of us don’t get. I guess you found out that’s not always the case.  Now if they’d only get held to the same standards as normals when it comes to acts of violence…

More stupidity from the Golden State government. I guess they’re not fans of science.

And lastly, I bring you a link to debate. I’m a bit torn on this one. Yes, each adult should enjoy bodily autonomy. And I believe if someone wants to off herself, that’s her right. But I also believe the docs who assisted her ignored their primary responsibility, which is to do no harm.  And I think they should be locked the fuck up.  We had an interesting debate on this elsewhere. I’m curious to see how y’all feel about it.

Here you go. My daughter missed them at ACL on Saturday because they stopped playing 45 minute early. And here’s a masterpiece of gibberish lyrics. Enjoy them both.

And enjoy a lovely Tuesday, dear friends.

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422 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    What a bunch of swine

    Wrong link!

    • UnCivilServant

      I’m rooting against California as a matter of principal (I dislike the principals involved), and because I dislike them putting rules in place that reach outside their borders.

      • SDF-7

        I’m rather fond of pork — but I’d like to see the industry just boycott the state by refusing to make the changes and just say “Nope, sorry — Sacramento says you don’t get bacon!” (Though this may have been one of the Many Idiotic Ballot Propositions, there are too many to keep track of that have “feel good” stupidity like this). See how long it takes before the people say “Enough already”. If I set up a chest freezer I could probably drive to Reno once a month or something… ;P

      • Grumbletarian

        This. CA can dictate what gets sold in their state, and pork producers cannot be forced to continue providing Californians with pork products. The end.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I agree with this take too. Let a small group of pork producers pop up to cater to their crazy demands. The rest of us can continue eating our low priced piggy parts.

      • slumbrew

        I agree but:

        Californians consume 13% of the pork eaten in the United States

        That’s a big chunk for the producers to give up.

      • Pope Jimbo

        When the price of pork doubles or triples, I bet that percentage drops.

        To flip it on you, if they are a big market, it means that suppliers will pop up to raise their special pork for them. It isn’t like they only consumed 1% of the pork and when it becomes too expensive to sell to them, no one else will think it is worth it either.

      • SDF-7

        When the state keeps making more and more appeals because some want us to eat bugs (Davos crowd), some are vegan and want everyone else to be, and some believe all livestock should roam free across the plains? I think they need to pick where to draw the line — and this seems like a good spot.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Every cricket should be raised in its own 2ft square cage that is planted with natural prairie grass.

        And Fourscore is going to have to stop torturing his bees and give them hives where every honeycomb has its own internet access and color TV.

      • R.J.

        Yes. So if California makes that rule, it ends up affecting prices for everyone. Hard to find a way out of that, other than all the other states combining forces and demanding otherwise each time California makes a rule. The only other way out is when California shrinks to insignificance (coming soon), or totally bans a product.

      • Rat on a train

        Send it to Mexico so they can make carnitas.

      • sloopyinca

        Which they’ll ship to California.

        That made me think: I wonder if they’ll go a step further and ban all prepackaged and processed pork dishes unless they comply with the regulation. Because that would empty their stores’ freezers of pretty much all pork products as well.

    • sloopyinca

      I fixed it 30 seconds after they were posted. Everybody calm down.

  2. Count Potato

    First two links same?

    • sloopyinca

      They’re a work in progress until 7.

    • SDF-7

      “Second verse, same as the first! John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt…”

  3. AlexinCT

    Well, it ain’t done yet. Strangely I had to scroll a few pages before finding this piece. I wonder if that’s because the midterms are around the corner. Nah, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

    Was this one of those sites created to spoof lefty idiots and program to not see how bad team blue has made things? Prolly not, since you eventually did find it.

    • Grumbletarian

      JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon warned that the U.S. is likely to fall into a recession next year.

      Next year??

      • AlexinCT

        Yes, after the midterms… until then there ain’t no recession even if there is one..

      • DrOtto

        Well then, Double secret recession.

      • Fourscore

        And the year after and the next and the next and the next. Even if the private sector spending slows down the fed gov will continue to spend

  4. Pat

    I wonder if all the anti-semitism in Europe will lead to them diverting the find to other locales.

    If it’s not the antisemitism it’ll be the environmentalist retardation.

  5. AlexinCT

    Excellent! We need more of this. Sorry Yale, but silencing dissent by those who don’t play along with your hivemind experiment has consequences.

    The evil cult won’t act differently until it costs them. We need to fight back. But I tell people to be weary, because the lesson they learn will not be that what they are doing is evil and bad, and people don’t want it. Look at Paypal’s lies about their accidental rule to fuck people over. The people that did this will not learn what they did was wrong. No, they will see this as a confirmation that their attempt to circumvent the slow boil of the frog in the pot failed and they need to go back to do this slowly.

  6. Count Potato

    “And lastly, I bring you a link to debate.”

    I posted that about a week ago. I still think 23 is way too young.

    • UnCivilServant

      In principle, I can’t say I’m that much of a fan of letting doctors kill people. As applied, it is becoming clear that medical institutions are leaning on “Kill the patient” as an easy out from actual delivery of care, so the option needs to be taken off the table.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Wouldn’t the docs and institutions want to keep them alive and paying if they have insurance?

        I can see the insurance companies wanting to talk the patients into checking out, but the hospitals? I think they’d want to keep that money flowing in. Especially since you aren’t expected to cure them of anything.

      • The Last American Hero

        Not when the margins are low.

    • Pat

      I think I’m one of the only resident pro-suicide people. I think it should be legal for anyone who is a legal adult with no issues of competence. It’s a real slippery slope once you start telling adults they can’t do things with their own body that aren’t good for them. I also don’t think any physician should ever face liability for providing assisted suicide drugs or performing euthanasia on a competent, legal adult. That’s as nonsensical as the “prosecute the johns, but leave the hookers alone” harm-reduction nonsense they’re doing in Canada. And of course, the issue would rarely need to involve physicians in the first place if we didn’t have the retarded gatekeeping prescription system to access drugs.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m concerned about situations like in canada where they isolate elderly patients and execute them over issues like “hearing loss” when they otherwise would never agree to be killed. ‘Quality of Life’ is being used as a fig leaf to cover medical murder in cases where it’s increasingly clear it wasn’t the patient’s choice.

      • Pat

        It’s a worthwhile concern, although I think the risk has been exaggerated with a handful of high profile cases that probably aren’t representative of the majority of assisted suicides. The incentives would be quite different without a socialized health care system as well, obviously.

      • UnCivilServant

        I suppose the best route is to take the doctors and the medical establishment out of the equation.

        Their role should be strictly curative. If the patient decides to off themselves, the doctors should have no role in that.

      • Pat

        How do you handle cases like, say, a paralytic who wants to die but is incapable of self-administering?

      • sloopyinca

        He gets a friend to help him. Doctors should play no role.

      • Pat

        I don’t see any reason why the moral calculus would change just because the friend has no medical credential.

      • sloopyinca

        Because helping someone kill himself goes against the ethical code of medicine. It doesn’t necessarily go against the moral code of friendship.

      • Pat

        Professions do not have ethics, individuals do. If a physician is ethically comfortable with participating in assisted suicide by dispensing lethal drugs, or even participating in euthanasia by actually administering lethal drugs to a patient who asks for them, that should be their own decision. And of course, in consideration of the abortion issue, I would say that the medical profession has given up any claim to such an ethical premise even if we accepted that such a professional ethics be binding regardless of the individual.

      • sloopyinca

        Wait, you don’t think there’s an ethical code for medical professionals?

      • AlexinCT

        Not after the Kung Flu or Newsom’s recent ruling.

      • Pat

        The AMA and various medical boards publish ethical codes, and can certainly withhold their seal of approval from anyone who violates them. If you think that’s anything like a legal obligation or the basis for liability, I can tell you’ve never been involved in a medmal case. There’s also a question of “is” and “ought”. I don’t think the sorts of professional governing boards who censured their members for discussing COVID-19 treatments with their patients ought to be taken seriously as the arbiters of ethics.

      • sloopyinca

        I wasn’t speaking about the AMA’s definition or a legal code. I was talking about the base ethical code everyone in medicine should adhere to. And it starts with: First, do no harm.

      • Pat

        Medical schools haven’t administered the Hippocratic Oath for at least a century, and even if they did, I don’t think any medical practitioner ought to have to swear an oath or be bound to any moral or ethical premise with which they disagree in order to practice their profession. Of course in practicality, most medical professionals must comply with a code of conduct as part of their employment with a major medical group, but that’s a contractual issue; a physician can always practice independently or find a different employer. And, as I pointed out earlier, the basic tenets of the Hippocratic Oath have not been respected in the context of abortion, which the Hippocratic Oath specifically forbids. It’s one thing to say “Hey, I think you’re a scumbag for performing abortions” and another to say “Physicians who perform abortions should go to prison.”

      • AlexinCT

        Medical schools kick out any student that points out biology says there are 2 genders based on XX or XY chromosomes, these days.

      • Pope Jimbo

        And it starts with: First, do no harm.

        It seems to me that they are doing harm to the patient by forcing someone to rely on an untrained person to perform a difficult medical procedure. Or by not helping a person to die with dignity you force them to live with pain and despair.

        Wouldn’t the doc also be causing harm to the relative/friend who was forced to kill the patient? It would be like a vet handing a shotgun to anyone who showed up and telling them that they had to pull the trigger to put their dog down.

      • sloopyinca

        ^^This^^

      • Pope Jimbo

        So who exactly should be the one killing the patient? Family? Friend? Or could they hire someone who specializes in this to do it? As long as it wasn’t a doctor?

      • AlexinCT

        I would go with the “El pozolero” Q linked below….

      • Fourscore

        C’mon, man, don’t you know any cops?

      • Count Potato

        How do you determine competence?

        Regardless, I don’t think it’s something doctors should do.

      • Pat

        How do you determine competence?

        Clinical evaluations and court proceedings, like we do for many other issues, like medical POA or competence to stand trial.

      • sloopyinca

        How could someone in good physical health who wants to off himself be declared mentally competent?

      • Pat

        The same way that someone so consumed with mental derangement as to rape a child or shove someone in front of a speeding train can be declared mentally competent. The only thing required for such an evaluation is evidence that the actor comprehends the consequences of his actions, not that those actions match up with a particular moral standard.

      • sloopyinca

        So now we’re back to the state determining competence?

        By that logic, she should be fine to off herself (which I agree with). But anybody who assists her is participating in a murder (since the consequences of their actions is the deliberate ending of a human life).

      • Pat

        So now we’re back to the state determining competence?

        Was there another option on the table? If so, I’ll be happy to entertain it. In the absence of some evidence that a person is incompetent, I think the default should be to assume competence and just rely on informed consent. But if such an adjudication is warranted, I don’t see any particular reason why the state shouldn’t make the evaluation, the same way as it does in medical POA cases.

        Certainly I don’t find it any less offputting than the state determining the scope of practice and medical ethics for physicians.

      • Nephilium

        I’d be for devices that allow the patient to make the decision, although I don’t necessarily think it’s always the best decision, it’s their life. However, I’d want the decision to firmly be in the patient’s hand, not the doctor’s.

      • juris imprudent

        not the doctor’s.

        By which him mean the state.

      • Pat

        Informed consent should be of absolute primacy, of course. Kevorkian and Nitschke both used devices completely under the control of the patient in their euthanasia and assisted suicides, so the proof of concept is there.

      • juris imprudent

        ANARCHY, MADNESS!!! Oh, wait a minute, that actually kinda makes sense.

      • Brawndo

        In principle, I think I agree. But in a socialized healthcare system, I think the slope is a little too slippery. The incentives to encourage people to kill themselves that are a drag on the system are real

      • Certified Public Asshat

        In this Belgian case then, you would disagree with the decision to euthanize? She seemed very mentally ill.

        I don’t think age is relevant necessarily, if she was 23 and had terminal cancer then euthanasia seems appropriate.

      • Pat

        In this Belgian case then, you would disagree with the decision to euthanize? She seemed very mentally ill.

        Not necessarily. “Mental illness” is a nebulous construction of social science dressed up in the language of biological science. I think pathologizing behavior or emotional states is fraught with horrifying complications. In any case, I don’t believe “mentally ill” and “incompetent” are synonymous. You can be profoundly “mentally ill” and still understand the consquences of your actions. That’s competence.

      • R.J.

        Imagine how fast you could fall down that slippery slope. Street person is crazy, now demands euthanasia individually. Now government decides to offer euthanasia for street people. Now euthanasia is forced on street people. Now forced on everbody. Surely that situation won’t be taken advantage of.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I feel more read up on the story now. She suffered for 6 years, was on 11 anti-depressants, and just not getting any better. Sure, I would tell her my bro-science ways of feeling better, but whatever, she was following advice for a long period of time and it didn’t work. Sounds crass, but you can’t save them all.

        I definitely struggle trying to separate mentally ill from incompetence (not a doctor). It doesn’t seem like that is the case here.

      • The Last American Hero

        With advances in palliative care in recent years, there is no excuse for medically assisted suicide. And it isn’t isolated cases.

      • Pat

        Tell me you’ve never watched somebody die on a morphine drip without actually telling me…

  7. Pat

    More stupidity from the Golden State government.

    We don’t have any laws like that here in Nevada, but it doesn’t matter because the grocery stores never refill the produce bag dispensers anyway…

    • Certified Public Asshat

      The plastic straw ban is the best one, especially when you get a paper straw in a plastic cup.

      • Brawndo

        You don’t like your drink tasting like newspaper?

  8. WTF

    I’m a bit torn on this one. Yes, each adult should enjoy bodily autonomy. And I believe if someone wants to off herself, that’s her right. But I also believe the docs who assisted her ignored their primary responsibility, which is to do no harm. And I think they should be locked the fuck up. We had an interesting debate on this elsewhere. I’m curious to see how y’all feel about it.

    Suicide is a permanent “solution” to a temporary problem, unless it’s a terminal cancer patient in hospice. But it certainly is for someone in their 20s without any serious physical disabilities. Helping her kill herself rather than treating her mental state should result in the gas chamber.

    • Pat

      Gun manufacturers should be liable for school shootings. McDonald’s should be liable for making people fat. Distilleries should be liable for health care costs of alcoholism. Tobacco companies should be liable for smokers’ lung cancer. Etc, etc. Bad, bad, bad idea to start down that road.

      • WTF

        Not sure how you get to those arguments since you seem to be claiming I somehow advocate that companies should be held liable for misuse of their products. Which of course is not the argument I made. I simply said doctors should be held liable for their own actions of doing deliberate harm. If a competent adult wants to kill themselves, have at it. But doctors should not be in the business of facilitating the deaths of people, except maybe in very limited, extreme circumstances.

      • Pat

        Not sure how you get to those arguments

        Because they are based on the exact same premise of vicarious liability. To narrow it down more specifically, let’s say you go into a gun store and ask to buy a pistol and 1 box of ammunition. While casually conversing with the store owner, you happen to mention that you’re feeling suicidal and want to have the gun around “just in case” you decide to end it all. Is the gun store owner less morally culpable if you go home and shoot yourself in the head with the pistol he just sold you than a physician who prescribes you enough barbiturates to kill yourself?

      • WTF

        You’re stealing a few bases there to try to make the arguments come out the same. You never said “gun dealer” you said “gun manufacturer”. And dealers can be held liable for things like knowingly participating in straw purchases. No, physicians should not be prescribing lethal doses of drugs to someone who just said they would like to kill themselves. But then, I don’t believe any drugs should be subject to any restriction by prescription anyway to adults.

      • Pat

        There’s a reason I chose a gun store for a more specific example, to demonstrate how the slippery slope works once you’ve accepted a certain premise. If we accept that the gun store owner may be liable for selling a gun to a suicidal person, the argument can expand to a point where the gun manufacturer may be proportionally liable in some degree as well without very much new moral or legal reasoning. Dispensing drugs that are controlled by the state when they shouldn’t be isn’t very different from selling firearms that are controlled by the state when they shouldn’t be. Accepting a premise of liability for the physician, but not the gun store owner, is getting into special pleading. I grant you that there is a distinction between that and euthanasia, where the physician is a direct participant.

      • UnCivilServant

        All the gun stores I know would refuse that sale the moment you bring up the suicidal ideation.

      • juris imprudent

        Been there, done that.

      • Pat

        Which is well within their right, and I certainly wouldn’t support requiring any physician to participate in assisted suicide. But I also don’t think that the gun store in that scenario should face any civil or criminal liability for selling an independent adult the means with which to effectuate their own death.

      • R C Dean

        Vicarious liability is holding someone responsible for the actions of a third party. Prohibiting doctors from intentionally killing patients is not vicarious liability.

      • Pat

        That would apply only to euthanasia, not to medical suicide. I don’t think physicians should be held liable for participating in euthanasia either, but the premise is legally distinct.

      • R C Dean

        No, its both. Prohibiting a physician from killing a patient with the patient’s consent is still not vicarious liability.

        Euthanasia (killing patients without their consent) is definitely a line we shouldn’t cross, IMO, although the line can get fuzzy when it comes to withdrawing care rather than injecting something lethal.

      • straffinrun

        What they do here (I’ve heard it first hand from physicians) is they “accidentally” leave a lethal dose of some drug on the bedside table and make it known how lethal it is. The cops here will also tell you about many cases where the terminally ill wife or husband is found dead in bed come morning. An imprint of a person’s face freshly mashed into the pillow. They pretend the spouse didn’t do it, and spouse pretends to be shocked.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        At least fluff the pillow afterwards. Jesus…

      • Pat

        Prohibiting a physician from killing a patient with the patient’s consent is still not vicarious liability.

        That’s not what actually happens with medical suicide though, the physician merely prescribes a drug in a dosage range that is capable of causing death, and the patient ingests it himself. In the absence of the prescribing system we use to gatekeep drugs, no physician would even need to be involved at all, you could simply walk into a pharmacy, pay for 8 grams of pentobarbital, go home and take it at your leisure. Your definition of euthanasia is also heterodox. It does not definitionally involve a lack of consent from the patient.

  9. Rat on a train

    JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon warned that the U.S. is likely to fall into a recession next year.
    Recessions two years in a row?

    • UnCivilServant

      I’m going to need some proof that we’ve left the recession we were driven into this year.

      • AlexinCT

        The propaganda machine told you there was no recession, you heretic!

      • juris imprudent

        BELIEVE THE NARRATIVE

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Stop with the misinformation. I’ll be expecting a $2500 check from you by Friday.

      • AlexinCT

        It’s in the mail…

        I just wish i had not canceled my Paypal account more than 7 years ago, cause I sure as hell would have done it now…

      • Pat

        If government spending were excluded from GDP, I’m not confident we could be said to have left the recession begun in 2001.

    • Nephilium

      The headline I saw for that said that he was predicting we would be in a recession in the next 6-9 months.

      /looks at the economic news for the past 6-9 months…

      • Drake

        So a solid year + of recession. Time to call it what it is – a Depression.

        Like the last one, created entirely by our federal government.

  10. SDF-7

    Oh joy… another stupid ban by Sacramento. I’m so looking forward to produce in soggy paper bags, that will work so well. Damned idiots.

    That SF Gate also took me to this: https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/bake-off-mexican-week-controversy-17495045.php — what a whiner… “Oh noes… a country across the ocean with a vastly different culture didn’t do what I thought they should to represent a country / culture next door to me… Waaaaaahhhh.” At least Paul Hollywood didn’t bring a Mexican guest judge on so he could bang her behind his wife’s back (again).

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      Back when TOS was still somewhat sane.

      One hundred million new plastic grocery bags require the total energy equivalent of approximately 8300 barrels of oil for extraction of the raw materials, through manufacturing, transport, use and curbside collection of the bags. Of that, 30 percent is oil and 23 percent is natural gas actually used in the bag-the rest is fuel used along the way. That sounds like a lot until you consider that the same number of paper grocery bags use five times that much total energy. A paper grocery bag isn’t just made out of trees. Manufacturing 100 million paper bags with one-third post-consumer recycled content requires petroleum energy inputs equivalent to approximately 15,100 barrels of oil plus additional inputs from other energy sources including hydroelectric power, nuclear energy and wood waste.

      https://reason.org/commentary/paper-grocery-bags-require-mor/

      TINSTAAFL

    • Rat on a train

      Oh nooo. Brits don’t know how to make Mexican dishes they can’t pronounce. It is the end of the world. Now I expect the writer to pronounce all European dishes with the proper accent.

      • sloopyinca

        Unless you’re Dr Oz. Then pronouncing something correctly will have deleterious effects.

    • B.P.

      “But the cherry on top comes during the opening scene, where comedian-hosts Noel Fielding (“IT Crowd,” “The Mighty Boosh”) and Matt Lucas (“Doctor Who”) wore long, colorful serapes and round sombreros in the middle of a well-manicured green lawn just outside of the show’s famous white tent.”

      I assume the “well-manicured green lawn” part is supposed to be a stereotyping nod to Latin America’s role in North American groundskeeping? Looking around for something offensive… looking around… there it is! The writer also helpfully notes that the offensive costumes are culturally appropriated, because one never misses the opportunity to sneak in an in-crowd phrase or concept, no matter how out-of-place.

      My wife had this episode on while I was coming and going last night. My takeaway was: Don’t eat tacos in Great Britain.

  11. AlexinCT

    They abandoned the old religions, because they didn’t want to be limited by rules that prevented them from doing whatever evil shit they wanted to. So they made up a new one to fill in the void.

  12. Count Potato

    “SB 1046, put forth by Sen. Susan Talamantes Eggman, will force supermarkets to phase out single-use plastic produce bags, called pre-checkout bags, that are often seen near the fruits and vegetables section by Jan. 1, 2025.”

    “I am the retard. goo-goo g’joob”

    • AlexinCT

      This is a great way to make food things that could carry dangerous pathogens to come into contact with other things and thus clear Gaia’s surface of a large lot of those Gaia damned unwashed plebes that would have to deal with this idiocy…

      • juris imprudent

        Clostridium botulinum and E. coli are 100% organic and gluten free!

    • rhywun

      I guess they’re not fans of science.

      No but they are fans of punishing low-income people.

      Oh, never mind, they’ll just raise cash benefits to cover the price increases this will cause. Utopia has a solution for everything!

      • AlexinCT

        The solution they want is government dependency… People that can’t live a normal life without government handouts are easier to control…

  13. Nephilium

    Damn it. It doesn’t look like there’s a good clip from the Good Place with the question that implies supporting the Red Hot Chili Peppers will cause you to go to the Bad Place.

    • SDF-7

      You’ll just have to go watch it streaming from NBC to your budhole.

  14. slumbrew

    Oddly, I’ve enjoyed RHCP less and less as they became better musicians. Had all their early stuff but nothing after Blood Sugar Sex Magic.

    • rhywun

      They never did anything for me. Doubt I’ve heard them since the last time I watched MTV a couple decades ago.

    • Pat

      For me, their earliest stuff is too amateurish, their later stuff is too produced, and they should be contractually obligated to never make any music without the participation of John Frusciante, because none of the rest of them can write a song.

    • Zwak. who's suit is as ragged as his nerves.

      Freaky Styley and True Men Don’t were both good examples of SoCal PunkFunk, much like Thelonious Monster, Mary’s Danish, and a few other bands at the time. Nirvana killed most of them, with the Peppers radically dumbing down the sound to survive.

    • CatchTheCarp

      Same here, although I would consider myself only a casual fan. I still listen to them even though a lot of their post BSSM titles are horribly brick walled, The Uplift Mofo Party Plan is my favorite even though it contains the dumbest song they ever released.

  15. Raven Nation

    Semi-related to the CA pork story…a story popped up on my news feed this morning that the New Zealand government plans to levy taxes on two aspects of farming. One is on nitrogen fertilizers. I forget what the other is on. This is the same government that recently created the office of grocery commissar (or something like that) because the two grocery chains in the country are making “excessive profits” on food.

    • UnCivilServant

      Have to starve out those excess people somehow.

    • slumbrew

      What, they’re turning 4% profit instead of 3%?

      Grocery is notoriously low-margin.

      Let me guess – they’re just looking at the total dollar amount of profit and not the profit margin and have decided that pile of dollars is too large, somehow.

      • UnCivilServant

        Profit >= 0 ergo, profit is too high.

        /progic

    • rhywun

      They looked at Madagascar and said “We want this”?!

  16. Raven Nation

    Raider/Chiefs: watching the highlights now. Was the “roughing the passer” call legit? From what I could see it seemed like a standard sack but the highlights I’m watching don’t have a replay.

    Also, I don’t understand either 2-point conversion decision.

    • Grumbletarian

      No, it was a shit call. The defender had no where to go, and tried to brace his fall anyway. And I have no love for Mahomes or the Chiefs.

    • sloopyinca

      I kind of understand the Chiefs trying to go up by two scores. The Raiders one. OTOH, was idiotic.

    • R C Dean

      I liked the Raiders going for the win rather than the tie.

      The roughing call was complete BS. The defender had the frickin ball in his right arm. There was no way for him to avoid landing on the QB without fumbling.

      Not to mention, he didn’t land on him that hard.

  17. rhywun

    You can’t sleep when you’re sitting in a busy emergency room after being beaten half to death.

    RHYWUN ON OCTOBER 11, 2022 AT 07:40 AM [+]

    I’m sure the NY Post is there with lurid details of the latest crimes.

    Right on cue.

  18. waffles

    Yale Law School was one of the most prestigious law schools in the nation.

    • UnCivilServant

      I lost the last iota of whatever indoctrinated respect I had for them when I saw the video of the student shouting at the school president saying “It’s not about studying, its about making a home here” and he just stood there and took it and she wasn’t simply expelled for lack of academic focus.

      • juris imprudent

        It was a dean of the residency hall, not the president, but the point stands. Spoiled, coddled children – not a generation of budding adults.

    • Tres Cool

      Someone get this man a dust pan to scoop up the drugs he lost!

      • Grumbletarian

        Scooped by a whole half hour on the last post of the previous thread. Guess I’ll be making a call to the doc who helped off that 23-year old now.

      • straffinrun

        Who you calling last post? Oh, never mind. I was gonna repost anyways. Thx.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Is she switching to R or just independent?

  19. Count Potato

    Today, in pork and suicide

    “Amazon is sued for ‘selling suicide kits to teenagers’: Parents of Ohio girl, 16, and West Virginia boy, 17, accuse online retail giant of assisting in their deaths by selling sodium nitrate – a fatal food preservative that ‘is as deadly as cyanide’

    They note that Amazon’s online recommendations suggest that customers who purchased the chemical also buy a scale to measure the correct dose, an anti-vomiting drug and Amazon’s edition of a handbook on assisted suicide.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11300919/Amazon-sued-selling-suicide-kits-teenagers.html

    The algorithm wants you dead?

    • Grumbletarian

      Why would you use something fatal as a food preservative?

      • Urthona

        You have to admit the food stays more in tact if you die eating it.

      • UnCivilServant

        Pretty much anything can kill you at the proper dosage.

      • Grumbletarian

        True, which I guess is why water is the fatal necessity of life.

      • Rat on a train

        LD50 is 90g/kg or ~2 gallons for 200 pound person.

      • Tres Cool

        Wiki told me 180mg/kg (rats), so for 180 lb person, 14.6 g ?

      • Rat on a train

        All sites I’ve seen are 90g/kg. For 180 pounds it is 7.3kg = 7.3 liters = 1.9 gallons. A quick calculation is a quart per 25 pounds.

    • Urthona

      I know this is evil of me, but I kind of darkly laughed.

    • SDF-7

      Skynet Prime….

    • juris imprudent

      The Jonsson family said Kristine was a happy, healthy high school student and talented artist, who was ‘extremely intelligent and focused’.

      Sure, that explains her suicide – she just saw this on Amazon and decided death was preferable to life. You could have at least said she was troubled and you were trying to get her help.

    • Nephilium

      No one tell the parents that you can order sodium nitrate from any decent spice or butcher shop as well.

      • juris imprudent

        Uh, they don’t have a bazillion dollars like Bezos and Amazon!

      • WTF

        Otherwise know as “curing salt”.

      • Zwak. who's suit is as ragged as his nerves.

        How many butcher shops carry “Teen Suicide Guide, a Handbook”?

    • R.J.

      Another example of a stupid lawsuit. Unless of course the idea is to stop people from making jerky. Eat crickets, peasant!

  20. Tres Cool

    whaddup doh’

    • AlexinCT

      HTML fails, that’s what’s up.

  21. AlexinCT

    Getting rid of a meritocracy is not going to shift the odds in favor of the inbred moron offspring of the elite (see Hunter Biden for an example) enough, so ,a href=”https://victorygirlsblog.com/the-elites-are-intentionally-destroying-your-children/” target=”_new”>their backup plan is to make it neigh impossible for those not part of their circle to get a decent education that would allow them to thrive even in a world where meritocracy has been replaced with nepotism…

    • SDF-7

      make it neigh impossible

      Alex, you have to slow down your posting — I think your voice is starting to go. Definitely getting a little horse.

      • AlexinCT

        I have been accused of having another thing in common with horses. In particular stallions…

      • SDF-7

        Catherine said you were great? I suppose there’s no reason to halt her….

      • sloopyinca

        Don’t saddle him with that responsibility.

      • juris imprudent

        I’m reminded of the joke about the guy who walked into a bar and bet that he could make the horse laugh…

      • AlexinCT

        I actually won the bet to make em cry.. Cause I showed it to the horse…

      • UnCivilServant

        You have a tendency to acquire stable vices?

      • Tres Cool

        My other screen name is Girth Brooks.
        Just sayin’

      • AlexinCT

        Shaped like a tuna can…

        Might not get in there deep, but it is gonna scrape the shit out of the sides?

      • Tres Cool

        You’re thinking of my other other name….Johnny Depth

      • Pat

        Same. I can’t even tell you how many people have referred to me as a horse’s ass.

      • UnCivilServant

        Did they at least do it creatively, like saying you were a Rouncy’s Rump?

      • Pat

        If somebody called me that, I would be beaming with pride rather than offended.

      • Zwak. who's suit is as ragged as his nerves.

        Big teeth?

      • mindyourbusiness

        Don’t accuse Alex of trying to stirrup trouble.

      • Gender Traitor

        Once again, Swissy’s gonna pommel us.

      • juris imprudent

        If he doesn’t rein this in soon we’re gonna have a stampede.

  22. SDF-7

    ‘Orning ‘Ordles — not a dank cloud to dim the Pope’s Ray of Sunshine… but not great either. I shout my barbaric “Meh.” from the rooftops of the world or something…

    Daily Duotrigordle #223
    Guesses: 35/37
    Time: 05:56.07
    https://duotrigordle.com/

    Daily Quordle 260
    6️⃣4️⃣
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    • Grumbletarian

      Daily Quordle 260
      6️⃣4️⃣
      7️⃣3️⃣

      Decent day.

    • robc

      Daily Quordle 260
      6️⃣4️⃣
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    • Cowboy

      Daily Quordle 260
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    • rhywun

      Hmph. Seed words crap again… I’ll take it.

      Daily Quordle 260
      5️⃣3️⃣
      7️⃣6️⃣

    • Pat

      Daily Quordle 260
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    • whiz

      Daily Quordle 260
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    • Grosspatzer

      Daily Quordle 260
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      quordle.com

  23. AlexinCT

    Whenever government policy & actions cause economic harm, the private sector is blamed and accused of profiteering. Whenever the private sector overcomes government ineptitude, criminality, and corruption and things don’t go horribly wrong, some government entity will step up to claim they did that. The scary thing is how many lemmings go right along.

    • juris imprudent

      In the minds of a lot of people, govt and politicians have replaced god(s) and priests. No one wants to admit shit just happens without SOME thing/one being responsible.

      • AlexinCT

        You may be correct that some, maybe most, people have forgotten that people will always look out for themselves and their own first and foremost and have come to see government as the solution to problems instead of where all the big ones come from. What frightens me is that these people always can clearly see this issue in the private sector, but for some reason think the people in the public sector suddenly have stopped being driven by the usual baser motivations that plague us all.. That level of idiocy is something that scares the bejeebus out of me.

      • juris imprudent

        Dude, political-person (politician/bureaucrat) is just what priest used to be – not just another shlub with base motives, but someone who has been called by the higher power and is therefore blessed.

  24. AlexinCT

    I am sure this was a mistake….

    The fact it was a democrat that did this should not make anyone suspicious at all…

    • juris imprudent

      Govt health care FTW!

      • AlexinCT

        Cross selling services?

  25. AlexinCT

    Shocked face….

    As I tell anyone that tells me you have to nutty to think the 2020 election was rigged: No election before that required as much effort, both before, and after, to not just convince people of its legitimacy (or lack there off), but also required government punishing anyone pointing out the massive mountain of irregularities pointing to the thing being stolen fortified….

    • sloopyinca

      My shocked face came when I tried to open that “link.”

      • juris imprudent

        As you were saying…

      • AlexinCT

        Sigh

      • SDF-7

        Must be typing with his third leg.

      • juris imprudent

        It keeps pushing the keyboard around as he tries to type.

      • AlexinCT

        It’s easier to play a piano with it cause those keys are not so small…

      • AlexinCT

        Well played Slooplord…

      • Rat on a train

        They’re even suppressing links.

    • juris imprudent

      So shocked the link SF’ed itself.

    • juris imprudent

      Apropos…

      Lose an election? Claim it was stolen.

  26. Count Potato

    “Watch the whole video but this is the WPATH part. I added a zoom in so you can see one of the panel laughing at the idea of children not understanding they’ll be chemically castrated or surgically castrated. Also they claim 14yo w/ gender dysphoria think “they’ll live forever” ?”

    https://twitter.com/FaitAccompli75/status/1578157980507594752

    CWAA

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      “We want kids to be happier in the moment.”

      A direct admission that they’re not considering the long-term consequences of their actions at all. It’s a hell of a commentary on the morals of our society.

      • SDF-7

        I just loved the whole “These kids obviously don’t understand the ramifications of what they’re doing and don’t listen when we try to explain consequences”… “so let’s just go ahead and fundamentally alter their lives before they understand!”

        Rage Inducing.

      • Rat on a train

        future time orientation is racist

      • juris imprudent

        Consequences are an oppressive patriarchal concept.

    • Rat on a train

      I had a friend back in the early 90s that said she never wanted kids. She was in her early 20s and wanted a hysterectomy but no doctor would perform one without a medical reason.

      I wonder if she ever had kids.

      • straffinrun

        I wouldn’t say ruined. She certainly fucked it up, but people have comeback from worse shit and found meaning. Also, IIRC she isn’t regretting her decision, just that they side effects are worse than they warned her about.

      • slumbrew

        My mistake – I had thought they had stopped the hormones.

        Still, quite the illustration that “hormone treatments are NBD, they can always stop them” is bullshit.

      • B.P.

        It’s very illuminating that, when someone who points out a downside to transitioning claims that medical professionals might be putting their thumbs on the scale in support of transitioning, in the replies, many of the folks who are on Team Victimhood suddenly pivot to personal responsibility/actions have consequences.

  27. UnCivilServant

    Our city’s police budget is clearly too high.

    The neighborhood here is mostly streetside parking, so the city designated no parking hours for the street cleaners to drive through and get at the gutters. It’s three hours on tuesdays here. All the signage is there. Apparently they decided to have the cops drive down the road blaring their alert noise and announcing over the megaphone that people need to move their cars before the street cleaning window. If they repeat it at noon for the other side of the street, I’m going to be annoyed. Especially since the street cleaners never actually clean that side during the noon-3pm window, and just drive around the parked cars during the 9am-noon window for the other side of the street.

    • PieInTheSky

      Street cleaners are the backbone of civilization

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      They’ll do anything except negotiate with the Russians. It appears DC will burn the world down before they’ll do that.

      • AlexinCT

        The Ukraine war is about the massive Lithium deposit there. It’s worth trillions of dollars in today’s green movement world. The Russians want it. We want it. There is no negotiating…

      • Drake

        Trotskyites are a stubborn lot.

      • R C Dean

        They’ll do anything except allow oil and gas production in this country ,with all the secondary benefits o f producing our own rather than buying it from foreign kleptocracies.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        It is a special type of retarded to go into a world energy war while cutting your own production.

      • AlexinCT

        Yes it is. It is called “Progressive green energy and AGW cultism”.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Not only do you not have to rely on foreign kleptocracies, but those same countries also won’t have all that revenue flowing in.

        If we had kept gas down at $30/barrel, how long would the Saudis and Russians be able to survive? I mean, they have spent their petrobucks so wisely before.

    • AlexinCT

      It really looks petty that after they fuck over the Saudis and then needed something from them but didn’t get it, they now want to punish the Saudis for not just bending over.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So what we say or we’ll hammer you, not exactly a good way to gain loyal friends. The Biden Administration’s foreign policy is disfuckingfunctional.

      • Drake

        Too bad for the Saudis that there isn’t an alternative to trading in petro-dollars. Oh wait, hello BRICS.

        A State Department so incompetent they are facilitating the creation of trading partnership that will destroy our currency.

      • WTF

        So happy the “adults” are back in charge.

    • SDF-7

      If only we had some domestic resources or could make it easier, faster and more convenient for Canada to ship us oil or something.

      If only…..

    • PieInTheSky

      Nuke them till the desert becomes glass thus increasing albedo and helping global warming?

  28. PieInTheSky

    So i am in this small town to visit wine makers and i entered the only good restaurant in the place. Super packed and the menu was in catalan i did not have time to translate so i chose random and boy did i choose wrong

    • PieInTheSky

      Though half a litre of drinkable wine is like 3 euro which you would not find in romania

      • Rat on a train

        Romania has no drinkable wine?

      • PieInTheSky

        Not at 3 euros

      • SDF-7

        Yes, yes we know… In Romania you don’t drink…. wine.

      • AlexinCT

        Red? White? And did it compliment the meal?

      • PieInTheSky

        Well the meal was random so no…

      • Nephilium

        So… you’re drinking Two Buck Chuck?

      • PieInTheSky

        It is mantonegro

    • AlexinCT

      You get donkey balls braised in man goo?

      • sloopyinca

        He said Catalan, not Basque.

      • PieInTheSky

        Starter was a souo of white beans with clams. I dont know what the main is yet

      • PieInTheSky

        Seems to be fried fish

      • AlexinCT

        Insert Admiral Akbar shouting “IT’S A TRAP!” meme here…

      • SDF-7

        So you went out for sole food.

      • juris imprudent

        He made a random choice just for the halibut.

  29. Sensei

    A Pair of 1880s Jeans Just Sold for $76,000. Their Pocket Reveals a Complicated Piece of Levi’s History.

    Like a Pollock canvas, the pants legs are speckled in wax from the candles miners employed to light the way. Advanced age is evident in the cloth patch along the beltline, a buckleback adjuster along the seat, suspender buttons and a single back pocket—details that only a pair from that era would have, Mr. Haupert said. He also relied on Mr. Stevenson’s expertise: “He’s seen everything under the sun. I trust him to confirm that they are an authentic pair from the 1880s.”

    On the interior, the pants bear the phrase “The only kind made by white labor” printed on a pocket. According to a Levi’s spokesperson, the company used the slogan following 1882’s Chinese Exclusion Act, which barred Chinese laborers from entering the U.S. during a time of rampant anti-Chinese discrimination.

    • WTF

      “The only kind made by white labor”

      Time to cancel Levi’s.

      • Sensei

        Already on it!

        Levi’s today is “wholly committed to using our platform and our voice to advocate for real equality and to fight against racism in all its forms,” the company representative said

      • UnCivilServant

        Fuck that noise. The company should have gone “The statement was true at the time it was made.”

    • B.P.

      Dang. About 20 years ago I was exploring a very old mine and found a pair of jeans. I left them there.

  30. Pope Jimbo

    In Re Euthanasia: If you ain’t free to be wrong, you ain’t free.

    I too think the young lady who opted to check out was wrong and that her family or docs should have tried a lot harder to talk her out of it. But…. I think it is much worse to not allow millions of people to be able to die with dignity just because one crazy person used the right to die poorly.

    • AlexinCT

      I think government should be picking the livers and diers……

      • straffinrun

        They already are choosing who lives and who dies.

      • AlexinCT

        Well, they likely feel they need the freedom to do more of it…

  31. PieInTheSky

    A viral video clip showing two primary school children slaughtering a chicken in Kenya has caused uproar and some hilarity about the country’s new curriculum, which has more of a focus on practical skills.

    During the outdoor lesson for 11 year olds on how to kill and cook a chicken, one boy is seen pinning down the fowl as another holds a knife nervously to its neck.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63145919

    • Drake

      They need to learn practical things, like how gay sex works and why some words are problematic.

      • Q Continuum

        If you don’t like killing chickens, you might actually be a girl.

      • AlexinCT

        My grandma just used to rip their heads off after twisting their necks…

      • Pope Jimbo

        Your grandpa just choked them, didn’t he?

      • AlexinCT

        BAZINGA!

        Thanks for not disappointing and taking up the good pun cause, your holiness!

      • Pat

        I don’t actually enjoy killing anything, but a man’s gotta eat. Anything I’m willing to eat I’m willing to kill.

      • AlexinCT

        Wait, I like to eat pu…

        Oh never mind.

      • straffinrun

        The line I used to propose.

      • AlexinCT

        Does she know?

    • UnCivilServant

      Where’s the issue? How are they going to eat chicken if it’s still running around?

      • Rat on a train

        Go to a Michelin star restaurant like civilized people?

      • UnCivilServant

        Overpriced French food? No thank you.

  32. Rat on a train

    I hate appointment confirmation calls. I made the appointment. You already sent a text reminder. You charge a fee if I miss the appointment. Leave me alone. I am not going to call to confirm the appointment.

    • AlexinCT

      You must not ever have had to deal with the distracted younger crowd that claims unless you tell them 50 times that something is expected of them, they forget about it, huh?

    • Pat

      The ironic thing is that a lot of medical clinics are so busy you have to stay on hold for 20 minutes before you can talk to a live operator while half the front office staff is on the phone making appointment reminder calls…

    • UnCivilServant

      I suspect we commented on this before, and a lot of people told him to ditch the overpriced cars.

      • PieInTheSky

        Well i have not been around that much so this counts as new

      • robc

        Overpriced house too, but that one is more acceptable. For that income, that mortgage is fine. But the car loans is fucking insane at any income level.

    • AlexinCT

      I see the problem… this is an economically illiterate moron playing at being an adult. Someone should manage the money and especially the purchases made, for em.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Bankruptcy is still a thing minus the loans. Also, fuck off you money squandering shithead.

      • AlexinCT

        To be honest, I bet this idiot also lives in a state where after all is said & done that $350K gross income ends up being less than $160K after are paid taxes. Still, going that deep in debt for 2 EVs shows me this isn’t a very wise individual.

      • R C Dean

        My quick math got me about there on takehome pay, after withholding and benefits. The mortgage likely includes property taxes and insurance, so its hard to know what the P & I payment is (and what they paid for the house), but there are markets where its not unreasonable to drop $1MM on a house if you are bringing in $350K (gross).

        I note that the advice in that article is mediocre at best, as it never addresses their overspending on cars, which really is the first thing they need to deal with. This is a great market for unloading their two six-figure cars, For around $45K each, they could both be driving nice 3 year old low mileage used cars and be $100K ahead.

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      $170K in car loans

      WTF?

      • Rat on a train

        I’ve never spent more than $30,000 on a car. Maybe buy less than what you qualify for.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        I have a 2002 Tundra and a 2004 Sienna, both with 220K miles that get me where I need to go.

        And I’m getting ready to buy a 2011 Mazda CX-9 with 200K miles for 2 grand.

        Yes, I’m a cheap bastard, but I refuse to make car payments. I’ve always seen that as a total waste except for commercial vehicles that provide a return.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        *Two electric vehicles.

    • Rat on a train

      “I bought the most I could and now have financial problems.”

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I’m the first of my generation to own a home and the first to earn this much annually and don’t want to mess this up.

      You already did.

    • Urthona

      This all just feels like a massive self-own.

      • R C Dean

        It is, but I see it with people all the time when they first start making good money. The good news for them is, they can get back on track relatively easily. $350K/year is one hell of a foundation for financial health.

  33. AlexinCT

    Just went to amazon to order more “rain coats/Jimmy hats”, and they told me I should get a subscription for them based on how many I use….

    Time to only date post menopausal ladies born with XX chromosomes.

    • SDF-7

      They’re just starting to get worried you’ll pay with a rubber check.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Any other site would condom your licentious lifestyle Alex and tell you that you will go to hell.

    • Rat on a train

      One a day keeps the obstetrician away.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So us libertarians are supposed to be anti freelance undertakers now?

      • AlexinCT

        I recommended this fell get a job in that thread up above about Youths in Asia.

  34. PieInTheSky

    Switzerland has reversed the decline of more than half of endangered frogs, toads and newts in one region, research finds.

    After conservationists dug hundreds of new ponds in the canton of Aargau, amphibian numbers significantly increased.

    The European tree frog population in particular “exploded”, scientists say.

    Scientists hope this method could be used globally as pond building is simple and effective.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63206140

    Do we really want global frog populations to explode? There are to many as is in the lake by my mom’s place

    • UnCivilServant

      In other news, accusations of witchcraft in Aargau have skyrocketted.

    • Pope Jimbo

      That is the Swiss for you. Once they decide to do something, they hop to it and get it done

    • Count Potato

      It’s only so the Davos people can turn them gay.

    • B.P.

      Well, I mean, frogs are one of the biblical plagues.

  35. Pope Jimbo

    So does Yale really get the best and brightest to attend their law school? Or is there a significant portion of them that were admitted because of their mommies and daddies?

    The people I’ve met who went to Harvard or Yale as undergrads have been largely underwhelming. Why should I think the law school or other post grad programs are any different? I’ve met really smart people who went to State U because that is what they could afford.

    Not only do I wish the legal profession would stop slurping on Ivy League law school grads, but I’d like to see a SC nominee who isn’t even a lawyer. Specifically, it would be nice to see someone who understood technology get nominated to the SC so that they could educate the other judges on how the tubes on the internet work.

    • UnCivilServant

      I have long been of a mind that judges should not be lawyers.

    • straffinrun

      I want a collapsitarian put on the court. Prolly vote with Alito most of the time.

      • UnCivilServant

        When’s the last time you were even in this country?

      • straffinrun

        The last time I was there smear the queer was a P.E. staple.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Now we know why Straff left the Home of the Brave.

      • Nephilium

        You mean “Bash the Fash”?

    • Zwak. who's suit is as ragged as his nerves.

      I would like to see someone who doesn’t use a computer or phone get on the court.

      Get back to the basics of the written word.

  36. Brawndo

    “This will be an interesting case. And I think California should prevail. They have a right to determine what’s sold inside their state”

    I’m not seeing how this is a libertarian argument. If *individuals* don’t want to buy the pork, they don’t have to. Same as every other consumer good that doesn’t have popular support for legalization, but libertarians support like raw milk, marijuana, and guns.

    • juris imprudent

      Not much of a libertarian argument – more of a constitutional one: can the state impose inter-state trade restrictions? Dormant commerce clause says no.

      • Brawndo

        Maybe I misread sloopy’s commentary as moral agreement instead of legal agreement.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I get a shot at her

      I think she is anti-gun, so your toxic masculinity will doom your efforts to woo her.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I could fake it on the guns for a bit and my fondness for surfing and weed will redeem me.

      • AlexinCT

        She has walked back her anti gun stance quite a bit, and the shots I want to give her would help keep her skin soft and young…

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        You probably should scale back the frequency of those T-shots.

      • Zwak. who's suit is as ragged as his nerves.

        You would give her collagen shots?

      • R C Dean

        She has walked back her anti gun stance quite a bit

        That would be a good start. Link?

        She’s also anti-nuclear power and supported the Green New Deal, so there’s that.

      • Mojeaux

        She is one ginormous ball of philosophical contradiction. She can’t get a handle on her feelz.

      • AlexinCT

        At the risk of sounding like an asshat, your correct diagnosis MoJeaux tends to be what I see in most people, but especially those with tendencies to lean left (whom also suffer from mental disorders). I also see it occur in people that are shifting on the political spectrum, as they hold on to some of the tropes they believed longer than others, sounding like a lot of crazy and all over the place.

        I am not looking to marry the chick, anyway. just stick it in less crazy.

      • Mojeaux

        I don’t particularly care so long as those people don’t have a say in my life and/or the conditions of living my life.

        I know she’s a powerful topic around these here parts, and occasionally she says something that rings true for me, and given a choice between her and some other leftist, I’d vote for her, if I voted, but she’s a hot mess leadershiplywise.

      • AlexinCT

        I don’t particularly care so long as those people don’t have a say in my life and/or the conditions of living my life.

        Yeah, the problem is that their belief system requires them to not just have a say, but actively meddle to force you to do what they feel you should do, regardless of your personal desire. They know what’s best and you do what you are told.

        I’d vote for her,

        I wouldn’t. She still has too much of the crazy that worries me.

    • Urthona

      So is she joining the Republican party now?

      Why would anyone care? Isn’t she out of politics?

      • juris imprudent

        She and Amash form a new party?

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        Amash? ew….

        I think I’d sooner vote for younger Bernie Sanders.

      • Urthona

        For the name, I’m torn between the “Freedom Party” and the “Lose Every Election With 1% Of The Vote Party”.

      • Nephilium

        She’ll go independent like Bernie Sanders.

      • whiz

        If so, would she caucus with the Dems?

  37. Rebel Scum

    Meh.

    • Pope Jimbo

      whatevs

    • straffinrun

      You forgot the “t”.

  38. Rebel Scum

    Woke Yale Law School faces more boycotts as federal judge in Atlanta joins Trump-appointed colleague in New Orleans who refuses to hire students as clerks over ‘cancel culture’ and lack of free speech on campus

    One would think that understanding the Constitution would be a part of a Yale Law education.

    • AlexinCT

      Why? it’s an evil document written over a hundred years ago by some misogynist racist homophobic dudes that didn’t like government that much…

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Our legal system is broken.

      • Pat

        I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with cases like this from a libertarian perspective. I’ve always thought that a libertarian society would probably be a very litigious one in the absence of the more unified standards created by regulation and legislation. Let him go to court with his $700/hr attorney and argue that he suffered damages above and beyond his $3. And let a jury laugh him out of court.

      • juris imprudent

        You have an unjustified faith in the common sense of people.

      • Pat

        That’s a factor, of course, but I can’t conceive of a system that would produce better results in a majority of cases. Sometimes life just sucks.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You forgot that the jury will be instructed that they cannot apply common sense to the case before them. Nope, they can only rule guilty or not guilty. No jury nullification for you dirty rubes!

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I mostly agree, should be based primarily on torts. Absent loser pays options though this particular lawsuit just a frivolous piece of trash.

      • R C Dean

        Loser pays needs to be a big part of the deal. Otherwise, many companies think its worth it pay off nuisance claims rather than contest them because they will be out of pocket for defense costs even if they win.

    • Urthona

      This kind of cultural appropriation will keep happening unless we take a stand.

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      Pete was unavailable for comment.

      • Urthona

        The audacity of this guy thinking that — despite being from North Carolina — he had the capability of combining ingredients together to make a sauce.

    • UnCivilServant

      The case should be a single motion to dismiss with prejudice and a granting of said motion.

      • juris imprudent

        Perfect example of why our legal system needs loser pays.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        👆👆👆

      • R C Dean

        Or I could just keep scrolling before commenting.

      • Pat

        The principle sounds great in theory, but in practice, a loser-pays system has the secondary effect of making legal redress inaccessible to the poor who can’t afford to risk being saddled with all of their opponents’ legal fees as the price of admission for bringing forward a complaint. I could see it as an available punitive option at trial if a judge or jury believes a case was egregiously frivolous. But I don’t think it ought to be the default. Every trial has a winner and a loser, even the ones involving meritorious claims and genuine controversies.

        A practical example: PayPal recently suspended the accounts of the Free Speech Union in the UK, freezing the funds therein for up to 180 days while assessing whether or not to confiscate the money in the account for “damages”. The situation was defused after public pressure caused PayPal to relent, but let’s say that instead, the FSU had sued PayPal, but lost the case on the merits because of the legal particularities involved in PayPal’s user agreement, terms of service, and contractual obligations to account holders. Do you really think the FSU should have to foot the bill for the lavish defense put on by PayPal, with a market cap of 97 billion dollars, for the offense of having brought a case?

      • slumbrew

        “Texas Crown Canadian Whisky”

        It’s not _that_ subtle.

      • R.J.

        That was just added. Previously it had only a tiny reference on the bottle. Somebody must have sued them successfully.

    • Rebel Scum

      I like Texas Pete. It’s great on eggs.

    • UnCivilServant

      Such scientific inaccuracy! Humans are Apes, not Monkeys.

      /Deliberately missing the point.

    • Urthona

      They only stepped down from the presidency too, btw. Still a council member.

      • R C Dean

        They’re not giving up their $200K+ salaries and associated graft.

  39. Certified Public Asshat

    A thread:

    I am currently – literally – WEDGED between two OBESE people on my flight.This is absolutely NOT acceptable or okay. If fat people want to be fat, fine. But it is something else entirely when I'm stuck between you, with your arm rolls on my body, for 3 hours. pic.twitter.com/9uIqcpJO8I— Dr. Sydney Watson (@SydneyLWatson) October 10, 2022

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I don't care if this is mean. My entire body is currently being touched against my wishes. I can't even put the arm rests down on either side because there's no fking room.I'm sick of acting like fatness to this extent is normal. Let me assure you, it is not.— Dr. Sydney Watson (@SydneyLWatson) October 10, 2022

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Our passengers come in all different sizes and shapes. We're sorry you were uncomfortable on your flight.— americanair (@AmericanAir) October 11, 2022

      • Nephilium

        If you can’t put down the arm rests, you’re not trying hard enough.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        She has a picture of the tray down but being blocked by the fat of one of the passengers.

      • Nephilium

        So when they ask to put the arm rest up, say no. If they can’t fit in the seat, that’s not my fault.

    • Urthona

      While I agree that our current culture has gone to far on this, a couple hours stuck between two fat people … meh. This is America.

    • straffinrun

      What part of “each according to their needs” does she not understand?

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      You ain’t fat! You ain’t nothin’! YOU AIN’T NOTHIN’!

      • SDF-7

        Yo, Ding Dong man… Ding Dong, Ding Dong yo.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        Still the greatest line in music video history.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Weird Al ref?

    • Pat

      I can sympathize. There’s a case to be made for charging fatties extra money if they occupy more seat than they paid for. On the other hand, they pack ’em in so tight in coach nowadays that you don’t even have to be overweight to spill over into the next seat. If it’s that bothersome, kick in the extra cash for first class.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        My ideal airline would have no overhead bins and would weigh the passenger with their luggage.

        Also no fatties.

    • Pope Jimbo

      That happened to me on a Southwest flight. Except it was only one fat fucker. Me and another guy literally had to sit sideways on the flight between Mpls and Chicago.

      Complained and SW gave me a big voucher to make things right.

    • rhywun

      Look, fats….

    • Count Potato

      Wow. And someone remembered that episode.

  40. Count Potato

    Good thread here:

    “If you use Wikipedia, you’ve seen pop-ups like this. If you’re like me, you may have donated as a result.

    Wikipedia is an amazing website, and the appeals seem heartfelt. But I’ve now learnt the money isn’t going where I thought…”

    https://twitter.com/echetus/status/1579776106034757633

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      Kill it, gut it, wear its carcass like a skinsuit.

      /The Leftist Way

    • Urthona

      I’m gonna start my own Wikipedia.

      With hookers. And blackjack.

      • R.J.

        There have been several attempts at that. Including a blockchain Wikipedia type thing.

        https://everipedia.org/

    • Rat on a train

      you may have donated
      If they drop their bias I may consider donating.

      • rhywun

        I donated once, many years ago – before the bias became so obvious.

        Yeah, they can piss right off.

  41. Rebel Scum

    Hey, baby. How you doin?

    I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Next thing you know she’ll be hanging out with Ye and getting kicked off of Twitter.

  42. Rebel Scum

    Don’t be indigenous about it.

    Tucker Carlson mocks Elizabeth Warren as being “not your average shrewish liberal white lady.”

    • UnCivilServant

      Indeed, she’s even Whiter than most.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Sioux are much uglier than the Ojibwe.

      There I used my white beauty standards to totes objectify native women. I’m so happy.

    • Rat on a train

      450W makes up for the efficiency of LED light bulbs for keeping your house warm.

      • Sensei

        That’s at stock clocks and power draw. Add in any kind of overclocking and I bet you can add another 20% on the power.

      • SDF-7

        Yeah — between that and the 95C “normal” running temp of the Ryzen 7950x, I’m thinking I’m going to wait at least one more generation with my r9 3950 and rtx2080 combo. Still performs well enough and doesn’t heat the whole house. With CA electricity prices and 110+ weeks common in the summer, I can’t justify the extra power for “slightly smoother framerate in the games I care about”.

        It looks like this whole generation is about pushing frequency, power efficiency be damned.

      • Shiny Nerfherder

        Gotta satisfy all those “work from home” users.

    • waffles

      She’s still under 25.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Is she still young enough for him?

    • rhywun

      “Let’s hypocrite together!”

  43. Sean

    @Neph.

    Peppers away.

    • Nephilium

      /points at your avatar

      • Sean

        I wish there were more/more varieties…but some plants just didn’t get with the program this year.

  44. juris imprudent

    Good read.

    Burnham looked to Congress as the bulwark — the “chief and greatest of the intermediary institutions” — against the march to Caesarism. But in today’s polarized political environment, Congress can only be a bulwark against Caesarism if it is controlled by a political and institutional opposition. Even a Congress nominally controlled by the GOP will not be able to stop the drift toward democratic despotism unless its leaders and members are willing and able to resist the enormous powers of the permanent executive bureaucracy, in other words, the managers. As Burnham concluded in his lecture, “In order that the … drift toward despotism may be avoided, it must be deliberately resisted.”

  45. kinnath

    Tulsi gonna be VP for DeSantis in 2024

    • Count Potato

      I don’t think that would help him.

      • kinnath

        You don’t think video of Tulsi in spandex shooting AR-15s will help with soccer moms in middle America?

      • Rebel Scum

        It helps with me….

      • R.J.

        Is there a….
        Link to this wonderful thing?

      • robodruid

        ….. For “Research”?…..

      • kinnath

        It’s been linked a couple of times this week on Glibs.

        I don’t have that link handy.

    • Drake

      Sued for not committing economic suicide fast enough.

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      Leonore Gewessler (born 15 September 1977) is an Austrian Green politician serving as Minister of Climate Action, Environment, Energy, Mobility, Innovation and Technology in the government of Chancellor Sebastian Kurz and later Alexander Schallenberg since January 2020.[1]

      I’d argue that the Greens are far more of a threat to Europe than Russia.

      • rhywun

        And this winter will prove it.

      • juris imprudent

        Oh let’s hope it does.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      OK Austria, have a beer, sing another verse of Edelweiss, and shut the fuck up.

    • Fatty Bolger

      In a series of tweets, Gewessler said adding certain types of gas to Europe’s taxonomy system “does not do justice to the European efforts for a good & climate-friendly future.”

      Austria relies primarily on hydroelectric power for most of its energy needs, UPI reported.

      Dams have killed far more people than nuclear has, or ever will.

    • Shiny Nerfherder

      And here we go….

  46. juris imprudent

    Anton throws down his gloves.

    Linker finds it disturbing that anyone could have read the same books he did and become a rightist opponent of administrative rule, security-state tyranny, corporate censorship and hyper-wokeness. I find it ridiculous that anyone could read those same books and end up a toady of the present illiberal ruling order, a regime that every author in the canon (save perhaps Marx and Kojève) would have despised. And which Nietzsche and Heidegger saw coming and did despise.

    That was the easiest pull quote – he goes on at length about Kristol and all of his attack dogs.

  47. Mojeaux

    ← I feel so much better now! Almost forgot to change into my Halloween outfit.

    That “roughing the passer” call was bullshit. Also, it is clear to me we need to have another kicker who can actually kick like Harrison Butker.

    Assisted suicide: I am of the opinion that we treat animals more humanely than people, with regard to euthanization. That said, my theology teaches that a person goes when he has learned or taught as much as necessary. On the third hand, theology does not explain evil people or straight-up bad luck that doesn’t teach anybody anything. So there I go, in the weeds of youth in Asia feeling very much some kind of way, but unable to form an opinion.

    • R C Dean

      Assisted suicide: I am of the opinion that we treat animals more humanely than people, with regard to euthanization.

      I think there are three distinct categories:

      Euthanasia: Killing someone without their consent.

      Assisted suicide: Someone other than the soon-to-be-dead person kills him with his consent.

      Suicide: The soon-to-be-dead person kills himself.

      There are some gray areas between each of the categories, true. But I think there are difference of kind, not just degree, that present different moral/ethical/societal imperatives.

      • Mojeaux

        Interesting. I hadn’t thought about it in those terms. Of course, I don’t think about it much.

        A doctor I did transcription work for had a set of parents who were both in the beginning stages of dementia. Apparently, the dad had a plan that when he and his wife started declining, he had planned a murder-suicide, with the mom’s full knowledge and consent. The plan was broadcast to the family, but IIRC, none of the family took it seriously. Then one day, my doc wakes up and his parents are dead. I know a shotgun was involved, but I don’t remember the specific details. It might have been sadder if the dad and mom hadn’t made the decision with full mental capacity. I guess the only question for them was at what point in their decline this should happen.

        Side note: This particular doc made me realize that excellence in your chosen specialty and the shit-ton of money coming therefrom don’t confer class. I also made him a minor villain in one of my books.

      • Pat

        I hate to corpsefuck the thread, but I’ve already made a pest of myself and may as well continue.

        Your categorizations do not comport with the general understanding of those terms within the assisted dying communities or the laws that have been passed in the US legalizing certain forms of assisted dying. Euthanasia is mercy killing. “Good death”. The consent of the decedent may or may not be present, but the important distinction between euthanasia and other forms of assisted dying is that it involves the direct participation of a second third party. A soldier on the battlefield killing a fatally wounded comrade to spare him further suffering would be an example of euthanasia where there was no consent from the decedent. Mojeaux’s example of the elderly couple with dementia, or, say, a physician starting an IV and hanging a bag of barbiturates to induce death in a patient at that patient’s request would be examples of euthanasia where the decedent did consent. “Euthanasia” as a term does not definitionally require a lack of consent for the mercy killing, just that the mercy killing be performed by a second party. It’s an important and meaningful moral and ethical distinction even if you oppose the practice entirely. The level of moral culpability in the two different circumstances would certainly be different even if you believe the battlefield coup de grace and barbiturate IV both deserve punishment.

        Assisted suicide is a somewhat misleading term as it’s used here in the US. “Medical suicide” would be a much better term, in the same way that we differentiate chemical abortion from surgical abortion, with the former generally being referred to as “medical abortion”. “Assisted suicide” usually refers particularly to the type of assisted dying that is legal in Oregon, Washington State, and Switzerland, for example, whereby a physician is authorized under the law to write a prescription for lethal drugs at the request of a terminally ill patient once certain conditions have been met. This type of assisted dying shouldn’t even require the participation of a physician. A physician’s participation is only necessary because of our drug control system whereby we are disallowed from obtaining certain drugs without the permission of the medical priests. The only “assistance” offered by the physician under such legal regimes is his signature on the prescription so that a pharmacy will dispense the drug(s). The patient then uses the drugs he obtained with the assistance of a physician to commit suicide by ingesting the drug(s) himself.

  48. juris imprudent

    BWAHAHAHA – okay, probably linked yesterday and I’ll sweep up the drugs from my heels, but this is by the far the funniest bit or irony I’ve seen in a while.

    • AlexinCT

      The Nobel committee is manned by moronic virtue signaling asshats and douchebags.

  49. Brochettaward

    I vow there will be a First in every pocket when I’m done. People will know the power of a First.