Tuesday Morning Links

by | Nov 22, 2022 | Daily Links | 397 comments

Wow.

I ate four dozen oysters last night in about an hour. Saudi Arabia just beat Argentina in soccer at the World Cup. The US choked away a game it was in total control of and tied Wales. England and Holland did what they were supposed to do. And San Francisco thumped the woeful Arizona Cardinals last night.  And that’s it for sports. Except for the part where I say Fuck TTUN. Now on to…the links.

Are they saying Detroit is the future? Because they got out ahead of this trend a couple decades ago.

I hope they win.

This is going to be one hell of an interesting case. The law sounds discriminatory if you replace the words “tribe” with “skin color” or “religion.” And on that alone, I’d expect it to be struck down. But the history in the passage of the law also makes sense.  Like I said, an interesting one.

OK, and how many billions did Pfizer get? That doesn’t change the potential fraud in their marketing, but if the feds are going after this while ignoring the money dumped willfully into the pockets of big Pharma that have been dead ends, then they’re hypocrites.

What a good sport. I like this guy more every day.

Preferable.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. “You can’t deface your body. But you can mutilate it.”  These fucking people, man.

OK, sure. Now give a tally of the suicides and drug- or booze-related deaths you caused by locking people up like mice in a lab.

So…an early holiday gift? Because it feels like it. Also, they’re gonna keep being paid for three months.

Thank you, pandemic. There was some good to come out of it after all.

Here’s an absolutely magical song. I hope you enjoy it.  And here’s another one. And yes, they’re both for Banjos.

Now go have a great Tuesday, dear friends.

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397 Comments

  1. Shpip

    Meanwhile, Musk is posting racy memes and proclaiming that “Twitter is fun.” Sure, buddy.

    When you’re a humorless scold, “fun” is an alien concept.

    • Rat on a train

      “Ok Groomer” is trending. Hate speech has returned.

    • SDF-7

      Yeah — expecting 80 hour weeks from your employees isn’t for most. I know I’m too old for that crap.

      Kind of wondering if he’s floated internally any compensation changes to cover it — startups usually get that sort of buy in only by dangling the carrot of options if they go public (or more often if they succeed enough to get bought out). Twitter doesn’t really have that going for it… nor does it have the “You’re blazing the new frontier!” aspect that Space-X could be using.
      Hopefully he’s saving enough making them pay for their own lunches and clearing the underbrush that he can bump their salaries if he does find people willing to do it.

      Still would expect some serious burn out after 6 months of that, though.

      • UnCivilServant

        Do we know he’s demanding 80 hours at Twitter? What’s your source on that?

      • SDF-7

        I don’t know — just referencing the article Sloopy linked:

        An executive at Salesforce appears to be enamored with Elon Musk’s desire to work 80-hour weeks and subject his workers to those conditions.

      • UnCivilServant

        The way it’s stuctured that appears to be an entirely unsourced assertion by the author of the article.

      • SDF-7

        Could be. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s expecting startup style dedication though… since I would prefer he succeed just because I like some of his business ventures (though yeah, I doubt I could work for him long due to not being in that mindset anymore), do hope he’s either keeping expectations reasonable for the long haul or paying appropriately, that’s all.

      • Lackadaisical

        I think he had said similar, but I don’t many are actually expected to do that. It’s more a flex: I work harder than you, don’t complain

      • R.J.

        Agreed. I see that and I feel it is cut from whole cloth as opposed to being delivered with evidence.

      • Zwak, who taser's the chimp with the razor.

        Salesforce? So you already know it is total, make work bullshit.

      • AlexinCT

        He has demanded they dl a full week of work every week. That’s about 40 hr, on site, and maybe as much as 60hrs if there is a crunch needed for some personnel. This basic ask allowed him to flush out the scum that was showing up to do 4hrs a month of work and expected to keep doing nothing while sucking at the financially failing company’s teat. This was a brilliant move. Losers left on their own accord. No chance they will come after him legally either, unless in CA you can sue your employer for demanding you earn the pay he is giving you by doing work.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not going to get worked up over an employee being expected to work 40 hours a week.

      • AlexinCT

        Exactly. And if I was in charge of hiring in the tech field and any of the snowflakes that fucking quit showed up after somehow passing resume screening, to then tell me they left because of Musk when asked for the reason to quit, I would immediately assume lazy fuck should go work elsewhere.

        I can’t see why anyone would hire people that have all but admitted they want to be paid big to do nothing of value for the employer.

      • Pope Jimbo

        There is also the payoff of parlaying this job into a more lucrative job at some other company.

        That was how Accenture used to work. You worked like a maniac for 5-7 years. At that point, you could either try for partner, or you took a job as a big wig manager at some firm that was happy to have you. The new company would see that you had made manager in a super cutthroat environment and assume you were somewhat competent.

        I’m wondering though if the pedigree of Twitter will carry the same cachet as it once had.

        There is also the possibility that working long hours is actually fun now that the woke kids are gone. “You mean, I can just work on the project and not have to go to DEI training? Or not announce my pronouns at the beginning of each meeting? Fuck, I am so in!”

      • UnCivilServant

        We are… underwhelmed with Accenture.

        I will restrain my complaints to that.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I wouldn’t like being a client of Accenture either. You will end up getting what you wanted, but it will cost way more than you were originally quoted. The billing rate of junior code monkeys is also astonishing.

        I was there in the late ’90s (actually Andersen Consulting before the big breakup). I never worked at a place that was as smart and well run as they were. I wish that I had appreciated it more at the time.

        The reason they did so well was that greed and revenge drove that company. The Prime Directive was to make money. The Second Directive was to fuck over some other partner and steal his money. Those two factors drove everyone to make a shit ton of money.

      • UnCivilServant

        Our contract is deliverables-based, so they keep trying to short-change us on talent. I am not supposed to know more than the supposed ‘expert’ from the contractor.

      • Pope Jimbo

        When I was there, they were geniuses at taking some kid straight out of college and training them up in a few months to write passable code. They basically were running a coding camp before anyone had thought of that.

        Of course that barely passable kid was billing $125-150/hr back then. I have no idea if they can still get those rates, but back then they could.

        When you started, normally you’d be on projects in one industry. As you worked you learned a lot about that industry and by the time you were a manager were pretty knowledgeable in that area. If you made partner, you were an expert in that industry.

        I think the whole company has changed a lot since the split with Arthur Andersen (and the subsequent Enron debacle). When I met a college buddy in the late ’00s who was working there, I was amazed at how different it was for him than what it had been for me (he couldn’t expense in our drinks for one example).

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t know what these guys are paid. I just know what we are paying for the project in total (as I said, the contract is deliverables based so it’s up to accenture to keep their costs under the bid rate)

  2. Not Adahn

    Yeah, the whole Indian thing has been fucked since the first treaty was signed and immediately broken. As a native Oklahoman (and therefore descended from a Cherokee princess — check the cheekbones, yo) I am reflexively pro-Indian. Follow the treaties or rescind the treaties but this half-assed “you’re totes independent nations unless we want something from you” is Just Not Right(tm).

    • UnCivilServant

      I’m of a mind that we should treat them like any other citizen and abolish any of the nonsense and legal fictions built up over the years.

      • SDF-7

        At this point, probably so. I don’t think they’d be sustainable if we actually carved out the various reservations as sovereign countries and left them alone. Plus the Fed never relinquishes land and all.

    • SDF-7

      Yeah, that’s something I’ve raged against since I was a schoolboy. Either recognize the tribes as sovereign nations or don’t. If you want to treat them as conquered people, then don’t make treaties with them. If not and you make treaties, honor them. I still think we should have been shunned by every other nation on Earth as oathbreakers for what we did in the early 1800s.

      Yes, I know other nations are crappy too — but going back on your word used to be dishonorable and all that.

    • Negroni Please

      I grew up pro indian and then I read too much history and became very anti indian. Late 19th century romanticization of the indian lifestyle led to widespread falsehoods.

      This is not to justify everything the US did, but I’m certainly not on team Indian. It seems to me that the Indians lost and they should have had 3 choices. Assimilate, Die, or Leave. Literally all three options would have been better than the bullshit we have now

      • Not Adahn

        Leave where exactly? Manifest Destinay and all that.

      • Negroni Please

        We have northern and southern borders. Multiple tribes used them

      • Pope Jimbo

        Traditional conquered people didn’t even have those options. They were killed or sold into slavery. I guess you could Leave if you had a heads up and bugged out before the Roman legion showed up in your country.

    • sloopyinca

      I agree. But this wasn’t a treaty. It was a federal law that said “white and black people can only adopt an Indian kid if no Indians want them.”
      It’s horribly racist and flies in the face of the equal protection clause.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Exactly. This is a Fed law.

        I’ll grant that there were abuses in the past where they basically kidnapped Indian kids and sent them off to boarding schools. However, that doesn’t make it right to doom the current generation of kids to living in shitty conditions.

        What happens is that the kid is born to a shitty mom in a shitty clan. She is so bad that they take away her kids. The problem is that most of her relatives are also shitty. And people in the nicer clans don’t want the kids either because they aren’t from their clan (and in fact are from a shitty clan). And white eyes don’t really want to foster/adopt them either because at some point the tribe is going to yank them away.

        The kids are the big losers in all of this.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m laughing about Cherokees being the biggest tribe. I would bet money that it is based more on family legends and less on DNA results. When I lived in Memphis I was amazed at how everyone had some Cherokee blood in them (allegedly).

      Growing up next to the rez, no one would have admitted to any Indian blood if they didn’t have to. No one would have bragged on it. On the other hand, my hometown was so white we probably would have been proud to have some black ancestor from way back.

      I think there is a tendency to want to have a bit of exotic blood from some group that is safely remote enough to be romanticized.

      • UnCivilServant

        That makes no sense to me.

      • robc

        Friend of mine has a good story about those lines. He is pretty much whity-mcwhiterson, Republican and all.

        However, he never knew his maternal Grandfather. His Grandmother got pregnant during WW2. As she was getting old and near death, his mother finally convinced her mother to tell her about her father. He was some guy in the military stationed at the nearby base, he was off to war when she found out she was pregnant. He was from Oklahoma originally.

        My friend’s mom found out he was still alive in OK, got in touch, and he was happy to meet her and his grandkids and his greatgrandkids. He was a leader on his tribal council (not Cherokee, maybe Choktaw?, one with a good amount of oil money). The Mom, my friend, and his kids are all now tribal members. It gets them each a $500 health care gift card annually.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Because of tribal casinos there are some tribes here who have become totally insular. No marrying anyone outside the tribe at the risk of having your kids dropped from the rolls and not getting the casino loot.

      • robc

        As wasn’t sure if this one just required one parent to be a member, or if the guy pulled some strings as a councilmember. I know my friend’s wife is not a member. You can’t marry your way in.

      • Not Adahn

        Oil money? More likely Chickasaw than Choctaw.

      • robc

        Yes, that was it, thank you. I knew it was Ch* tribe that wasn’t Cherokee.

      • Not Adahn

        I would bet money that it is based more on family legends and less on DNA results.

        Not exactly.

        At one point, there was such a thing as a CIB card which listed your blood quantum (I think the Choctaws still use it). But the Cherokees* in particular went wtih not DNA but “can you prove your ancestor was on the Dawes Rolls? There’s a twist however. The leadership occasionally punts people off the list for reason I don’t pretend to know.

        *only referreing to these Cherokees

      • Lackadaisical

        Way to flaunt your multiple link privilege.

        ‘The leadership occasionally punts people off the list for reason I don’t pretend to know.’

        To help maintain control and settle with people who have crossed them, like any other government. I think that happened to some Senecas in NY when they tried to fight the one party rule of the time.

      • The Last American Hero

        ^This time 1000.

        Either that, or the Cherokee are the most fertile people on the planet.

        The number of BS’ers claiming Cherokee blood is comical.

      • UnCivilServant

        Each has as many descendants as Genghis Khan.

      • Not Adahn

        Are you saying Cherokee princesses are sluts?

  3. SDF-7

    but if the feds are going after this while ignoring the money dumped willfully into the pockets of big Pharma that have been dead ends, then they’re hypocrites.

    Narrator: They are, in fact, hypocrites.

    Morning, Sloop. If you haven’t done COTA yet (I thought you said you would be tooling around it this week), have a blast.

    • sloopyinca

      I did it this past weekend. Friday was great on the track tires I’d bought. Saturday was all rain so I changed back to my street tires. I kept them on Sunday since I’d be driving home but put in a bunch of good sessions. They “promoted” me to solo driving, which felt pretty damn good.

      Rain aside, it was an amazing weekend.

      • slumbrew

        Nice! Which vehicle are you flogging around the track? ISTR you’ve got one of the 911 variants?

  4. Shpip

    The ZSL identified recurrent challenges facing urban rewilding projects. Larger initiatives will require public funding that is scarce in straitened times.

    Because of course they will.

    Leaving wild plots untended risks invasive species being introduced and negatively impacting ecosystems.

    I assume the article is talking about the red-backed hominy cricket or somesuch, but my thoughts immediately went to the battalions of bums who will be camping in those woods.

    • rhywun

      My thoughts went to thieves and rapists. Just what the inner city needs, perfect hiding places.

    • SDF-7

      I was thinking rats. Lots and lots of rats. How would you keep them out?

      • Rat on a train

        Cats, lots of cats …

      • SDF-7

        Eventually we’re going to get to snake eating gorillas or something, aren’t we?

      • Rat on a train

        I believe it ends with elephants.

  5. rhywun

    Saudi Arabia just beat Argentina in soccer at the World Cup.

    Sad Messi! I smiled.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I don’t hate Messi, he’s certainly not an ass like the other guy (Ronaldo).

      But I do enjoy watching him lose.

      • rhywun

        Agreed on all counts.

    • Rebel Scum

      Messi better clean up his act.

  6. Not Adahn

    OMFG. There’s an article being boosted by Microsoft Edge about how Merrymount was destroyed because it was a Gay haven.

    • AlexinCT

      Tell the lie. Tell it often. Tell it before the truth can come out. The drones that are all about emotions will remember that lie, and no correction will ever change their minds.

  7. waffles

    I ate four dozen oysters last night in about an hour

    fifty eggs.

    • SDF-7

      … to leave your lover?

      Just make the shell crack, Jack!
      Get a new pan, Stan!
      Whip the whites well, Nell!
      Make an omelet for me!

      • Fourscore

        “I ate four dozen oysters last night in about an hour.”

        Oh, shucks.

      • AlexinCT

        Had a rager of a boner after as well?

      • Pope Jimbo

        Nice to see Fourscore come out of his shell and make a joke.

    • Rat on a train

      Nobody can eat fifty eggs.

      • UnCivilServant

        A: Nobody said they were chicken eggs.

        B: I’m pretty sure there’s an eating contest winner who says otherwise.

      • R.J.

        Correction: Nobody NEEDS fifty eggs.
        -Bernie

  8. Shpip

    Musk decimated Twitter’s staff upon his buyout, laying off half of the company’s employees and gutting key departments within two weeks. Last week, he issued an ultimatum to “go hardcore,” which reportedly resulted in around 1,200 more departures. It’s unclear, exactly, how many employees are left — but based on an estimate by the Verge, it’s likely that a mere quarter of Twitter workers remain.

    That’s not what “decimated” means.

    Seems like Elon is just getting rid of the bloatware. Sorry ’bout your luck, Kaitlyn from HR.

    At the risk of going off on a rant… there has been a serious bifurcation between those who have to earn their keep every day, and those who don’t do very much but have a steady salary.
    Back c. 1990, this bifurcation developed in earnest. The “productive” sectors, having been through waves of intense competition, became leaner, more efficient, and more productive; at the same time, three sectors – health care, education, and government – declared themselves to be too important to be subjected to this sort of leaning-down and shaping-up. Now, those sectors are bloated, inefficient, and consume way more than the necessary amount of resources to produce results – and it’s almost impossible to get dismissed or fired in any of those sectors. The reckoning has to come, and soon – and the only question is which one of the three will be the first to be fed through the wringer. But for right now, it’s Big Tech’s turn again.

    • Rat on a train

      That’s not what “decimated” means.
      Imagine if Musk actually killed a tenth of his employees.

      • SDF-7

        He’d just let Legate Lanius do it.

        And you thought your boss was rough….

      • Lackadaisical

        He doesn’t do it, he makes the other 90% kill them.

        Really builds the company culture.

    • UnCivilServant

      health care, education, and government

      Why so redundant?

    • The Last American Hero

      Education will come first. You are seeing the beginning now with declining college enrollment, nonstop commercials for online bachelors degrees, and such. If SNHU had a kick ass basketball program, there would be a disturbance in the force.

      Government will be next – with higher interest rates, all the tax money will go to interest, entitlement programs, and the military. Cutbacks in the other areas will be called “austerity”, even though total expenditures will be much higher.

      Healthcare will be last.

  9. rhywun

    China on Sunday announced its first new death from COVID-19 in nearly half a year

    Narrator: Bullshit.

    • Rat on a train

      The shot anyone sick enough to require hospitalization.

    • Drake

      How many people have “died suddenly” in that time?

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Urban rewilding is a “relatively new” movement, she says, pointing to a handful of cities taking bold steps in this direction. Singapore has installed “Supertrees” and green corridors that accommodate wild ecosystems, while three German cities are participating in a scheme to allocate spaces for wild habitats to grow freely.

    <

    Inconceivable!

    • UnCivilServant

      I thought ‘rewilding’ was what happened when you ended up like Detroit – so gutted by emigration that the buildings just collapse and the lots go fallow.

      • AlexinCT

        I thought its what happens at party colleges every weekend..

      • Shpip

        you ended up like Detroit – so gutted by emigration

        That’s what happens when you let people take the midnight train goin’ aaaaaaaaa-nnnnneeeeeee-whhhhheeeeerrrrrre

      • slumbrew

        You are a monster for putting that in my head.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m still pissed at whoever linked “The Man Who Stole a Leopard.”

    • Rat on a train

      But then how can we have high-density walkable communities?

      • rhywun

        Or safe.

        You can’t. Jane Jacobs pointed out decades ago that (for example) the great number of large parks in the northern third of Manhattan isn’t doing the residents of Harlem or Morningside Heights any favors.

      • invisible finger

        On the other hand, those parks in Manhattan are homeless encampments that aren’t in Harlem. So maybe there is a benefit after all.

      • whahappan

        Psst. Harlem is in Manhattan. As is Morningside Heights.

    • Fourscore

      I was way ahead of that scheme, now where is my public funding? I’m rural rewilding, can’t wait on the government.

      /Looks out the window at the deer and turkeys gamboling.

      • Rat on a train

        I will stop cutting down trees on my property for the right amount.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You should definitely get a govt grant for the Honey Harvest. Your annual rewilding efforts should be rewarded.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        ^this

      • pistoffnick

        Those bees are socialists!

      • Pope Jimbo

        Those bees have a saying: “Busy as a Fourscore” because they get tired watching him.

  11. Not Adahn

    So, in more local news, Michelle Riggi has died. She was a waitress in a cocktail lounge that won the heart of a legitimate businessman and went on to build the grandest and gaudiest mansion of them all on North Broadway. With enough space for her forty (40) chihuahuas, a heated lawn for them to crap on in the winter and a servant to obtain her Dunkin’ coolatas for her, she lived a life devoted to her dogs and decorating the interior of her home with more and more gold leaf. It is unknown what will become of the dozens of fiberglass dog statues (painted to look like bronzes) that served as sentinels to her gardens’ paths, but her wardrobe is currently on display at the Satatoga Trunk prior to auction.

    Seriously though, I urge anyone nearby to walk past and view Chateau Riggi (it’s actual name, I am not making this up) before the new owners de-Riggify it.

      • Lackadaisical

        Neat trick, thanks.

      • Zwak, who taser's the chimp with the razor.

        Reminds me of Hearst Castle.

      • Not Adahn

        They also had a 46 acre compound in Lake Placid, but I can’t find enough good pics of it to post.

    • Not Adahn

      Michele clicks across the marble kitchen floor in gold stiletto heals. “I love country music,” she says, above a background of steel guitars. “Want me to put something softer on?” She taps a touch pad and the music changes to a soothing symphony.

      The house is a smart house, she explains. All of the systems — lights, music, security cameras and more are controlled via touch pads situated throughout the home.

      “This is my kitchen that we don’t cook in,” Michele announces. “Everybody always wants to be in the kitchen, so you need to have a beautiful kitchen that looks good all the time. I’ve got everything in it, but I’ve never cooked in it because it’s so big.”

      A 15-foot-long island of Rosa Verona marble dominates the space. “Marble is my favorite. There is not one piece of granite in this house,” she says. Aware that marble can hold stains, she decided to use it for all of the home’s surfaces and moldings anyway. “You know what, I don’t mind the staining,” she says. “That’s the beauty of the stone. It’s got character, like people. You can’t be perfect all the time.”

      Gold leaf is everywhere in the kitchen: shimmering in beveled crevices on the cabinets, accenting the burrowed wood on the ceiling. “There’s so much gold leaf in the house,” says Michele. “Some people might think it’s gaudy, but I just love it. I think it’s the Italian and the French in me.”

      The kitchen’s appliances are stainless steel, state-of-the-art. The sink’s backsplash is Jerusalem Stone, cut by water jet into intricate designs. Cabinets with glass fronts reach toward the high ceiling. Two glittering crystal chandeliers hang above the island.

      “You’ve got to look at this,” Michele says, opening a small, stainless steel door above the wall oven. “It’s my steamer. I’ve never used it. Isn’t this cool?”

      “What would you steam in it?” I ask.

      “Fish,” she replies.

      “You should try that sometime,” I encourage.

      “I know, but then it stinks up the kitchen,” she laments.

      We leave that kitchen for the chef’s kitchen. “It’s adorable, isn’t it?” Michele asks. “You just turn around and everything’s there. It makes so much sense for caterers.”

      How can you not love her?

      • Not Adahn

        A large mosaic of Vietnamese field workers is mounted behind the family room’s ornate bar. The mosaic, Michele notes, is made entirely from eggshells.

      • SDF-7

        What else are you going to do with them when someone’s eating 50 a day or whatnot?

      • Not Adahn

        As is written in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, “Not only am I rich enough to afford this ship, I am also rich enough to not take it seriously”.

      • UnCivilServant

        Even if you’re not being serious, there should still be a ‘why’

      • Not Adahn

        Because it’s possible while also being impractical? And double bonus points for the subject/medium irony. It’s one thing to serve Caesar a dish of larks’ tongues, it a whole ‘nother level to serve larks’ tongues bound with hummingbirds’ eggs in the shape of a Cura Annonaeloaf.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    The ZSL identified recurrent challenges facing urban rewilding projects. Larger initiatives will require public funding that is scarce in straitened times. Leaving wild plots untended risks invasive species being introduced and negatively impacting ecosystems.

    Projects must have buy-in from local people to thrive, and avoid “green gentrification” that displaces people from targeted areas. Harmful practices such as the use of pesticides and artificial lawns must be tackled to give rewilding a chance. “We need stronger legislation to counteract the spread of activities that undermine efforts to restore urban nature,” says Pettorelli.

    But the movement is gathering momentum. Bleichrodt lists complementary schemes that work alongside the Tiny Forest project such as greening initiatives in schools, growing food in public spaces, and new experiments in sustainable water management. Tiny Forest has established a network across 10 countries from Curacao to Pakistan and is focusing on building awareness of new generations by working closely with local schools.

    “I feel like part of a bigger movement that’s trying to restore ecosystems,” says Bleichrodt. “A rewilding regeneration movement.”

    Progressive salvationists essentially see themselves as zoo keepers. Put here to keep nature (and the other, inferior, monkeys) in line.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Harmful practices such as the use of pesticides and artificial lawns must be tackled to give rewilding a chance. “We need stronger legislation to counteract the spread of activities that undermine efforts to restore urban nature

      German cockroaches rejoice!

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Projects must have buy-in from local people to thrive, and avoid “green gentrification” that displaces people from targeted areas.

      Lol.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I guarantee that the overlap between people who think it is totes OK to pass laws against pesticides to promote re-wilding and the people who are totes OK banning people from having gardens in their front yards and fines for not mowing is considerable.

      My guess is also that they all want some of this re-wilding a decent distance from their own home. Nice to take a walk over to see, but no way on my street or block.

      • Lackadaisical

        Huh. I’m very much against liberal use of pesticides and herbicides. That stuff isn’t just staying on your own property. I don’t care if people have a front yard garden, I’d like one for myself.

      • Fourscore

        “growing food in public spaces”

        That’s a laffer. Yeah, uh huh. Free range chickens, too, I’ll bet.

      • Not Adahn

        Hey! Has the food been inspected by the USDA and is it properly labelled?

      • Grummun

        It sounds to me like they don’t want anything vaguely “wild”, they want a planned park, designed by them, paid for with public money.

  13. SDF-7

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    Time: 05:08.32
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    • Sean

      Daily Quordle 302
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    • robc

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      Surprised I got it so easily, never even heard of this. And my seed turn hit almost nothing.

      • robc

        Daily Quordle 302
        7️⃣9️⃣
        4️⃣🟥

        Wasted two turns on LR.

    • Cowboy

      Daily Quordle 302
      6️⃣3️⃣
      7️⃣4️⃣
      quordle.com

    • Grummun

      9 3
      4 7

    • Tundra

      Daily Quordle 302
      6️⃣5️⃣
      8️⃣7️⃣

      Blah.

    • whiz

      Daily Quordle 302
      7️⃣2️⃣
      4️⃣9️⃣
      quordle.com

      Unconventional way to get to the line. Good start, then UL and LR had ay too many possibilities that differed by only one letter.

  14. Rebel Scum

    Urban rewilding is bringing wildlife to the heart of cities

    This won’t be easy for everyone to bear.

    • AlexinCT

      Cut loose a few pride of lions, packs of hyenas, and some tigers to do their thing….

    • sloopyinca

      Oh deer, Swissy is gonna be wincing at this.

      • SDF-7

        We may be okay — he’s more of an afternoon guy. As long as no one rats us out at least…

      • Fourscore

        I was gonna gopher more but I got skunked.

      • Michael Malaise

        You just have to outfox him by being sly.

  15. Rebel Scum

    This is going to be one hell of an interesting case.

    I have my reservations.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Which is chief among them?

      • SDF-7

        He’s not sure Roberts would be that brave.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The case will be a feather in his cap when legal historians write about him

      • Tres Cool

        Why do indians hate snow?
        Cause it’s white and settles on their land.

    • AlexinCT

      The definition of bravery sure has gone downhill…

    • SDF-7

      One of the many, many things I will never get about being gay I expect.

      In my world absolutely nothing needs more (or really, any) grown men in high heels and thongs.

      shudder

      Kind of like speedos and European beaches… does that actually do anything for anyone, or is it just somehow an exhibitionist thing and they don’t care that no one really wants to see that?

      • Fourscore

        There was this one guy in the barracks, see…

    • Ownbestenemy

      Now counter with photos of moms and dads forcing toddlers into their own perceived genders they want their little ones to be.

  16. Certified Public Asshat

    The US choked away a game it was in total control of and tied Wales.

    Well, one guy to blame (the only MLS player who started).

    • Pope Jimbo

      The beginning of the wailing about the Wale-ing?

    • juris imprudent

      Also lack of match fitness for a lot of those European based players, and slow to adjust/substitute coach.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    It’s unclear, exactly, how many employees are left — but based on an estimate by the Verge, it’s likely that a mere quarter of Twitter workers remain.

    When you cut the dead wood out of a gnarly untended tree, it flourishes.

    • AlexinCT

      And my bet is that there is still a lot to cut in that bloated beast.

    • Pope Jimbo

      An estimate? From Verge? Well who could possibly question that?

    • Homple

      She’s no fun. She fell right over.

    • Pope Jimbo

      You could have gotten more clicks with “News babe goes down on camera!”

  18. The Late P Brooks

    “This is my kitchen that we don’t cook in,” Michele announces.

    Excellent.

  19. Zwak, who taser's the chimp with the razor.

    Fuck the Beatles.

    (and thanks for the well wishes last night, everyone.)

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Ahem, No
      Please don’t fuck the beatles

    • Grummun

      Preach it brother.

      But George Harrison is solid.

  20. Cowboy

    Good morning everyone,

    Vacation all week so I’ll be scarce. Hope everyone has a great week, happy Thanksgiving, minimal political fights with the family, and successful Black Friday Brawls.

    Also, lol@Argentina, go Brazil!

    • Pope Jimbo

      Hope you have a great Feast with your family Cowboy. Things are great here

      Last year, in Minnesota, COVID cases were flooding hospitals and there were restrictions and recommendations across the state to help prevent the spread of the latest variant along with new vaccines emerging as well.

      Masks, social distancing, vaccinations and testing were highly recommended this time a year ago. In many public spaces, they were mandatory.

      In 2022, things look much different as COVID hospitalizations and deaths have gone down dramatically and those restrictions and recommendations for social gatherings have also gone away, for the most part, as Thanksgiving and the holiday season approach this week.

      “If they are going to spend a lot of time indoors with loved ones and family members and close friends who are elderly, or immuno-compromised that they maybe consider testing themselves before they go to that event,” said Bornstein. “It’s just to make sure they’re not carrying COVID and likely to transmit it to these highly vulnerable people.”

      Bornstein said, technically, there is still a COVID pandemic happening globally, but here in the United States we have been very effective in managing it with vaccinations and herd immunity minimizing the number of deaths and hospitalizations over the past year.

      I realized as I read this story and my blood pressure spiked that the advice actually isn’t bad. Testing before showing up where there are a bunch of geezers isn’t a bad thing. In fact, I had already planned to do that with my family because of an aunt and uncle we will be seeing. BUT the health care “experts” have so beclowned themselves that I reflexively hate anything they say now.

  21. Lackadaisical

    “Both adoptions, the Brackeens say, have been hindered by landmark federal legislation that dictates what types of parents get priority in the adoption of Native children through state child welfare systems. This month, the Brackeens went before the U.S. Supreme Court to argue that it should strike down key parts of the law. (A ruling is likely to come before the end of June.)”

    Wow, the absolute speed of government justice in this country.

    I hope they win too, it is a clear case of racial discrimination that has nothing to do with the best interests of the children involved.

    • Not Adahn

      *Elias Gonzales shrieks in a closet*

  22. Rebel Scum

    Everything seems to be on the up and up.

    Maricopa County Attorney’s Office was caught going OFF on one of @KariLake’s volunteer attorneys. They are scared to answer basic questions on inconsistencies in the AZ elections.
    Attorney @TweetTonyMac will join me Monday on http://TheJennaEllisShow.com to discuss.

    • Count Potato

      The guy in charge of the vote counting in Maricopa founded an anti-MAGA PAC.

      • rhywun

        That’s almost as bad as the lady who “won” is in charge of elections.

      • juris imprudent

        Because only MAGAts are trustworthy?

      • UnCivilServant

        No, because it speaks of a strong bias that needs to be acknowledged and some method of minimizing or even neutralizing it needs to be put in place. An equally strong pro-MAGA bias is also something that would need to be addressed.

        And anyone running in an election should not also be allowed to adminster it.

      • juris imprudent

        I’m reasonably sure that elections are characterized by the reliability and efficiency we see demonstrated in other govt operations.

      • Ted S.

        JI: This is why so many people here think there’s a lot of fraud going on.

  23. Lackadaisical

    “The payment was illegal, state officials allege in a lawsuit — part of a huge Mississippi welfare misspending scandal that has tarnished Favre’s reputation. ”

    It’s the company’s fault the state is retarded?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Oh no! The reputation of the guy sending dick pics to female reporters is going to be tarnished?!

      He won’t be allowed to rub elbows with the Right People in Mississippi I guess.

      • Lackadaisical

        Exactly, in Mississippi you’re only supposed to send dick pics to your sister, cousin if you’re desperate.

  24. Lackadaisical

    ‘Make it make sense! Woke professor of pediatrics says children should be banned from getting tattoos – but that it’s fine for them to have sex change surgery and take puberty blockers’

    Easy, it’s immoral and wrong to do either to your kids. I have this weird policy of leaving my son’s body alone and protecting him from himself when necessary. Really tough stuff.

  25. Rebel Scum

    Sure, let’s go with that.

    President Biden was asked about the special counsel appointment by Attorney General Garland for the investigations of former President Trump. “I learned about it when you did,” he said.

    • Pope Jimbo

      +1 Obama “I learned about it when I read the newspaper”

    • Rat on a train

      “My handlers only tell me what I need to know.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “I knew about it all along, encouraged it in fact, but I’ve forgotten about it because my mind is failing.”

    • Penguin

      I don’t know, I can believe Biden would be utterly clueless about that, along with a lot of things.

      • Penguin

        Or basically what Stinky said.

      • Lackadaisical

        You’re too naive.

        Biden is a mean SOB. I don’t doubt he knew, Garland is his attack dog and nothing more.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        👆👆👆 Hunter didn’t turn out the way he did because dad is a loving father figure.

        Joe is a sociopath of the first order.

      • AlexinCT

        Obama didn’t spend 8 years weaponizing the US bureaucratic machine for them to just end up not using it on their political enemies, DUH!

    • Ownbestenemy

      He was caught in a lie about Garland going after school board protestor so…my guess is he knew and is playing dumb. Any president would.

    • mock-star

      Anyone else remember in the long long ago when saying that there exists an entrenched bureaucracy that does what it wants with no input from their nominal heads – a deep state, if you will – was the sign of paranoia and marked one as a fascist?

  26. db

    Now give a tally of the suicides and drug- or booze-related deaths you caused by locking people up like mice in a lab.

    “Wheat, chaff, some disassembly required.”
    –Emperor Xi

    • Tundra

      Wonderful. But damn, 66 is way too young for all that.

      • Fourscore

        My youngest granddaughter asked me to give her away when she got married. Then the dance at the reception. I was both proud and honored.

        Thanks for the memories, Jimbo.

  27. Rat on a train

    I was cleaning up corporate email. Ugh, the CEO sent an email regarding the Colorado shooting. WTF does it have to do with our mission or employees?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      CEOs aren’t paid to run companies any more. They’re paid to be the corporate signalers in chief.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Same when I get messages from Secretary Pete about it. Signal fires lit

    • AlexinCT

      I wonder what happened to people ballistically down range of that display of idiocy?

  28. Rebel Scum

    Election deniers.

    Cochise County BOS just motioned to table the certification of the election until November 28th, when they expect to review all evidence of the proof of legal certification by the accredited Election Assistance Commission labs to use the tabulation machines. This now establishes precedent to do the same in other counties now that Cochise County is validating their results. Arizona cannot certify any election results until all counties have rendered certified results.

  29. Rebel Scum

    I suppose it’s nice to have a puppet.

    Happy birthday, @JoeBiden! There’s a lot to celebrate these days, and I couldn’t be more grateful that America has you sitting behind the desk.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      How’s that jibe with “Never underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up?”

      • SDF-7

        He couldn’t be more grateful Joe is in place to fuck America up?

    • WTF

      Holy fuck, the replies! These lunatics really do live in an alternate reality.

      • Lackadaisical

        They’re all bots.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Don’t discount the number of bots. I’d bet good money that the DNC, the GOP, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the FDA, the USDA, the CCP, ad infinitum… all have paid bot armies.

        Hell, we know for a fact that @BrooklynDadDefiant is paid to shill for Democrats on Twitter. If they’re willing to pay people, they’re certainly willing to develop automated accounts.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Hobgoblin watch

    FOLLOWING HIS SO-FAR unsuccessful attempt to lure Donald Trump back to Twitter, Elon Musk has opened the social media platform up to another once-banned far-right favorite: Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene.

    Greene’s personal account was reinstated Monday, Nov. 21, one day after Trump’s account was reinstated. Greene was suspended back in January for repeatedly violating the site’s Covid-19 misinformation policy at the time. The last straw came when she tweeted an image of a graph that used uncorroborated data to suggest that the covid vaccine was causing widespread death amongst recipients.

    ——-

    Even before she dove headfirst into medical conspiracies, Greene’s social media presence was defined by misinformation, vitriol, and conspiracy. Before she assumed office, Greene promoted Qanon conspiracies and even blamed a wildfire in California on the existence of a Jewish-controlled space laser. She spread conspiracy theories that the mass shootings in Parkland, Las Vegas, and Sandy Hook were false flag operations orchestrated by gun control advocates. Greene feuded with survivors of the Parkland shooting, even filming herself harassing and berating Parkland survivor and activist David Hogg. In one social media post, Greene referred to him as “#LittleHitler.”

    ——-

    It’s clear that Greene’s social media troubles have not been a deterrent to either herself or GOP leadership. Representative Kevin McCarthy, who is vying for a position as the new House speaker, has indicated that he will be lifting Greene’s ban from holding committee assignments in the new congress. Greene herself has indicated that she plans to use any new powers she’s granted with gusto, telling a crowd of Trump supporters at an October rally that “there’s a lot of traitors and criminals that need to be held accountable.”

    Batten the hatches. Stand by for a lethal onslaught of vitriolic taunts.

    So scary. And who ever might have imagined that Republican representative Greene, kept off of committees by the Democrats when they were in charge, might have her active duty status revived in a Republican House?

    Crazy, right?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Your speech is violence, our violence is speech.

    • Lackadaisical

      What’s that saying about both watching the same movie, just with different glasses on or something?

  31. PieInTheSky

    SO what are the odds twitter is still around in 3 years?

    And strangely not much downtime yet

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’d say that wholly depends on whether they survive the next six months.

    • Drake

      Same odds as any of us being around – 50 / 50.

    • R.J.

      I think the bet would be that Twitter is around in 3 years and still performs the same function. I think Musk has plans for that platform which don’t necessarily match what it does today. That would be why he’s ignoring all the EU commies who are asking for him to hire a phalanx of censors on their behalf. Quite honestly I would ignore them too.

    • Nephilium

      Shit… isn’t MySpace still around in some fashion?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Checks URL….yepper

      • Not Adahn

        I still have an aol account — a continuously active email account since 1992. Never been hacked neither.

    • AlexinCT

      Is that a long pig steak? Rare and covered w/ splooge?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Looks like frozen veggies and a poorly cooked steak.

    • slumbrew

      LOL:

      23h
      Replying to
      @ratemyplatenow

      Someone jizzed on your Steak mate. Dont eat it

  32. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Some interesting corporate commentary going around on the Disney shake-up. Apparently Chapek was going to slash the workforce and had the woke brigade in his sights.

    And boom, just like that, he got shitcanned and replaced by Iger, who turned Disney into the shitshow that it is today.

    Seems like a good time to short.

    • Lackadaisical

      Agreed.

    • PieInTheSky

      Meh the woke broke thing aint a guarantee

      • robc

        It is…eventually. But as the saying goes, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

    • rhywun

      🍿

      • Pope Jimbo

        What the hell does an emoji of my hat mean?

      • UnCivilServant

        It means he’s usurped your position, Anti-pope.

  33. Brawndo

    If the Indian kid’s own bio parents couldn’t be bothered to keep them in the tribal culture, then what does that say about the importance of tribal heritage.

  34. Rebel Scum

    Based.

    Judge has sentenced Treniss Evans to 20 days jail in Capitol riot case. Feds argued Evans raised a megaphone while inside and declared “bring ‘em in”.. and drank whiskey in Congressional conference room

    But his sentencing hearing…. was unlike any I’ve seen

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Google Nooz seems to have broadened its algorithm for anti-right-wing sources. They are featuring stories from Rolling Stone and The Bulwark, as well as the usual major network sources this morning.

    • AlexinCT

      The Enquirer is more reliable than any of the old legacy media news shitholes, and these new media jokes too.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      When in doubt, double down.

      That Rolling Stone editor who went on Rogan got his ass handed to him on a silver platter. I’ll bet it didn’t affect his worldview at all.

  36. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    I hope they win, too. Time for the reservations to go away, as well.

    Here’s an absolutely magical song.

    Yes, it is. I used to sing it to my kids when I’d go in and get them out of their cribs in the morning. Great memories, so thanks for that!

    I also love the video of the second one. The sound guys look like slide-rule dudes.

  37. The Other Kevin

    Good morning Glibs! I am back to our virtual home after my hockey tournament. It went well. Like, incredibly well. I didn’t have to work very hard either, so I’m
    feeling pretty good for after a tournament weekend. I took notes and photos and I should have an article in a few days. Meanwhile, I will turn 51 tomorrow and I after today I get 5 more days off. 🙂

    • Lackadaisical

      Premature happy birthday, old man.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Congrats on all of those achievements TOK!

    • Tres Cool

      Only 51? I have scars older than you!

      Happy Birthday.

    • Count Potato

      HBD 🙂

    • Mojeaux

      Hey hey hey! Happy barfday!

    • PieInTheSky

      drink responsibly

    • R.J.

      Happy birthday! Whippersnapper!

    • Tundra

      Happy birthday, Kevin!

    • DEG

      Excellent.

      Happy Birthday!

  38. The Late P Brooks

    On some random Twatter link somebody here linked, I saw a twat from Doktor Grandma. I swear to Baal Almighty she describes herself as a “United States government official” or some such preposterous hogwash.

    Ride those coattails for all they’re worth, Granny!

  39. The Late P Brooks

    That Rolling Stone editor who went on Rogan got his ass handed to him on a silver platter. I’ll bet it didn’t affect his worldview at all.

    “Did you see me on Rogan? Totally pwned him!”

  40. PieInTheSky

    “Contrary to the deterioration hypothesis, we find that market-oriented societies have a greater aversion to unethical behavior, higher levels of trust, and are not significantly associated with lower levels of morality”

    https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1594699129208426496

    • UnCivilServant

      Trust that the other member of the transaction will abive by the implied contract is necessary for a market to operate. If you’re convinced they’re cheating on the key elements of the deal, the system breaks down. It becomes even more important to be percieved as operating above board when selling to people who don’t know you. Scams might generate short term gains but you have to quickly move on and can’t build a profitable, long-term enterprise if you’re not delivering something. Deception leads to deterioration, however long it takes to burn through past reserves of goodwill and brand loyalty.

  41. The Other Kevin

    “Urban rewilding”
    That’s a vacant, overgrown lot. I guess we’re still on that trend where the millennials “discover” something that’s been around forever, put a name on it, and then write about it like it’s the hottest new thing. Evan, if you’re around, don’t be a lazy asshole like that when you write.
    SMDH

    • PieInTheSky

      In Dutchland they are rewilding in the sense they are no longer trimming grass weeds etc in parks and some gardens to make it better for the bees or wild insect or some such

  42. Brawndo

    At the risk of stirring up a hornet’s nest, all this talk in the news about children choosing irreversible medical procedures for themselves compares to my argument against non-medical infant circumcision. A child can’t legally give consent, but I think that a child or teenager can give more consent than an infant can regarding their genitals. One procedure is (usually) more drastic than the other, but mutilation without legal consent is still mutilation without legal consent.

    • robc

      I feel the same way about baby ear piercings.

      But, meh, I aint gonna pass a law.

      • PieInTheSky

        ear piercings is somewhat reversible. I mean it kind of closes by itself in a while

      • Lackadaisical

        That reminds me why I’m glad I had a son. Dodged a bullet there.

      • robc

        Having a daughter meant I didnt have to deal with the circumcision issue. My wife had her ears pierced in HS then let them grow back closed, so we are on the same side as far as ear piercings. Our daughter can take herself to the mall and get it done if she wants.

      • Lackadaisical

        My wife was ready to convince regarding circumcision, but comes from a culture where ear piercing of babies(sometimes even boys) is commonplace. Something about them looking cuter was her justification when we talked about it.

      • Ownbestenemy

        We let our son get his done but under strict guidelines…no stretching, face piercing, etc and once you are 16 and have done research into how to maintain and clean etc. Like we do with all our procedures. Don’t trust us or even a doctor, do your own research

      • Mojeaux

        So this is what I did.

        Daughter wanted makeup and ear piercing when she was around 11. I took her to Macy’s and got a saleslady to teach her how to do the whole thing from moisturizing to falsies. I told her if she wanted makeup, she would be expected to go out with a full face every day. No makeup.

        I took her to get her ears pierced. I told her she would have to make sure to clean them twice a day with alcohol. She took them out and let them close up. Still no earrings.

        My mom protested my plans to let her wear makeup and get her ears pierced that young. All I said was, “Watch.”

        She has tattoos she got on her 18th birthday. They were not well thought out and her choice of artist was questionable (even though I told her to take her time and find a good artist) and her placement was eyerolling, but she was 18 and could do with her body what she wanted.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Go to a mall?

        Why not get it done at some underage drinking party with ice, a needle and a potato? To impress someone at that party?

      • PieInTheSky

        disinfect the needle with a lighter flame

    • PieInTheSky

      what kind of hornets?

      Also I support banning circumcision. It is pointless and also how can you collect the foreskins of the enemies you slayed

      • Pope Jimbo

        What do you do with the foreskins of your enemies? Bracelets? And if you rub the bracelets, you get hula hoops?

      • Tres Cool

        I was told that when I was born, around the same time another baby was born w/o eyelids. My foreskin was donated to be a skin graft for that kid.
        I heard the procedure was a success, but he was still a little cock-eyed.

      • Mojeaux

        Grandpa? Is that you???

      • Fourscore

        There’s an ethnic joke there, Jimbo, someday I may tell it to you but as an ex-marine you already know it.

      • robc

        You build a giant mound out of them, duh.

    • Mojeaux

      Since I have no dick, I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I was on the fence with my son, but my husband was adamant about circumcision.

      • Mojeaux

        Circumcision, but only because of its familiarity and cultural associations.

      • PieInTheSky

        Since I have no dick – not even in a jar at home?

        I was on the fence – helps with the lack oh I’m not going there

      • Mojeaux

        The dick in my house is not in a jar, no.

      • Not Adahn

        Well, maybe when you’re off travelling…

      • Pope Jimbo

        Of course it isn’t in a jar. It is in a box isn’t it

      • Tres Cool

        Nobody did this ?

        I am disappoint.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Early 2000s they were still pushing it was beneficial and cleaner and couple with tradition, I was adamant too. Now that I am older? It would be a much different discussion with my kids when they start having babies.

      • Lackadaisical

        Yeah, that’s always been bullshit.

        Just do 100 circumcisions and you can prevent 1 UTI! Nevermind the cost and complication rates…

      • Lackadaisical

        After typing that up, I realized there’s some real parallels with COVID insanity…

      • Lackadaisical

        ‘Since I have no dick, I don’t really have a dog in this fight.’

        I don’t entirely understand this reasoning, if you’re responsible for the health and welfare of your child what difference does your personal anatomy make? Obviously you might lack some context but otherwise?

      • Mojeaux

        WHELL!

        As a mother cleaning for her child’s un/circumcised penis, it’s much easier without a teeny weeny foreskin. Also, I do medical transcription and did one for a pediatrician and a urologist for some time. The number of babies/men with still-attached foreskins (phimosis) and needing surgery was surprisingly (to me) high.

      • PieInTheSky

        maybe American men don’t know how to wash

      • Lackadaisical

        There’s no special care required really. I do most baths because I’m better at it…

        ‘and needing surgery ‘

        My wife operates in a space that people are often going to get as a last resort before major abdominal surgeries (that often have bad outcomes themselves). She is often able to get people better without going under the knife. Simply, I’m skeptical that surgery is always really needed when recommended.

      • UnCivilServant

        “The American Surgical Society recommends surgery.”

      • Lackadaisical

        I said ‘often’ but I think she hasn’t had a patient resort to surgery yet. Not saying it’s never needed, but she’s like a miracle worker. We often joke that in the old times she’d be burned at the stake for being a witch. 😛

    • PieInTheSky

      On the other hand circumcision is not a thing for 90%+ of Romanians so there is no debate on

    • Urthona

      I have heard that circumcision slightly increases your odds of receiving oral sec and therefore I am for it.

      • PieInTheSky

        200 bucks increases it more

    • Plisade

      Word. I went against my wife and her family to keep my son from being circumcised. Apparently the wife still told the hospital to circumcise him. Right after birth the nurse went to take him to have the procedure done and I protested, wouldn’t hand him over. When he was old enough I told him I’d pay for the procedure if he wanted it after he turned 18. He’s 25 now and still doesn’t want it done.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Can there be amnesty for us old coots? I had no idea that circumcision was a bad thing when the Altar Boys were small. I just went with the flow.

        I’m still not convinced it is a horrible tragedy, but I’d probably not get this trimmed if I were doing it today.

      • Tres Cool

        You need to place to hide your bubble-gum.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’ve been off gum ever since I lost some in the chicken coop and thought I found it three times.

      • Plisade

        At pregnancy time, I researched the procedure and found no upside, only down-, with all the downsides associated with a less than optimum sex life over time.

        Amnesty? Sure. I asked my mom during the research why she had this done to me and her response was along the lines of, “well that’s just what they do.” Very unsatisfactory. But accepting norms is not in my DNA, and her generation’s faith in “officials” bewilders me, always has. So it is.

        I mean, sex could be better, as hard as that is to imagine, sans the circumcision! Why wouldn’t I be upset?

      • juris imprudent

        Oh sure, I really need even more sensitivity there? What would you focus on beyond batting averages?

      • Lackadaisical

        “Amnesty? Sure. I asked my mom during the research why she had this done to me and her response was along the lines of, “well that’s just what they do.” Very unsatisfactory.”

        I had the same very uncomfortable discussion with my parents. What can you do? Most people trust doctors and it’s not like they had the Internet back then to easily research all this.

        Good on you for protecting your son. We never let ours out of our sight at the hospital, just in case…

    • Homple

      There’s a difference between being circumcised and getting your dick cut completely off and replaced with an artificial snatch.

      • UnCivilServant

        There’s a difference between scalding your hand and getting the flesh charred off in molten metal too. It’s a matter of degrees.

  43. KK the Porcine Pearl-Eater

    Was just thinking about our friend limey. I know he popped up suddenly a few weeks ago & disappeared again.

    Yo, limey!

    • PieInTheSky

      He is busy canvasing for Jeremy Corby

    • Gender Traitor

      He changed his screen name, didn’t he? (Folks who do that repeatedly are SO annoying! 😉) Do you recall what name he was using?

      • UnCivilServant

        You can change your screen name?

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, I forgot the sarc tags.

        /refuses to even change avatar.

      • Tres Cool

        I changed mine just to be holiday-centric

      • Gender Traitor

        Never mind – he WAS using Limey. It was way back at the beginning of September, it appears from a Dashboard search. Hope he comes back again soon!

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Watching that Shea Stadium footage from the Beatles is kind of jarring. Those girls, all that pent-up desire…

    It’s like we’re living in a completely different reality, now. Different =/= better.

    • PieInTheSky

      don’t look to the past old man

    • kinnath

      I remember watching the Beatles live on Ed Sullivan. The girls drowned out the music. Amazing times.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      But ratcoins are going to break out big!

      • Penguin

        Not Adahn & RoaT – leading suspects.

  45. PieInTheSky

    Tokyo is promoting TURTLENECKS in a bid to avoid blackouts this winter 🇯🇵🐢

    🌡️ A turtleneck will make you feel warmer and “help save power,” said Governor Koike
    ⚡ Japan narrowly avoided blackouts earlier this year and is preparing for a winter squeeze

    https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1594924623853854721

    Does straffinrun even look good in a turtleneck?

    • R.J.

      Those were big there in the 70s. Just ask grandpa for his.

    • kinnath

      The only reason to were a turtleneck is to hide the hickeys.

      • UnCivilServant

        I thought it was a sweater for people into autoerotic asphyxiation. Why else would you want a shirt that strangles you?

      • PieInTheSky

        what about its potential as a tactical garment?

      • Tres Cool

        Huzzah!
        Before I clicked I was thinking “this better be Archer”

        Well done.

    • slumbrew

      Mis-thread – the circumcision thread is up there.

      • Urthona

        nice

      • Sean

        *polite applause*

    • rhywun

      I hear people wear heavy jacket in winter, too. 🙄

      • Lackadaisical

        Yup. It’s like no one has ever grown up on a budget.

  46. PieInTheSky

    shoe
    @shoe0nhead
    the brand “Balenciaga” just did a uh….. interesting… photoshoot for their new products recently which included a very purposely poorly hidden court document about ‘virtual child porn’

    normal stuff

    https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1594532715126202368

    The thing is Balenciaga is what I find stupid about fashion. I will not discuss aesthetics though those things be ugly. But they are of very poor quality and very expensive.

    Now I understand the social signal component of having ridiculously expensive things. But why the fuck deprive yourself of quality? It may be a certain “I can afford to pay a ton for crap” but that does not signal value in any lets say “quality” social circle. People with money and taste can signal wealth while having very good quality.

    • slumbrew

      “expensive and low quality” – i.e., woman’s shoes.

      My father’s dress shoes are still in good shape.

    • R.J.

      The marketing campaign seems to be a direct attempt to use controversy to promote otherwise bland products that no one would notice.

    • Brawndo

      BalenCIAga? Hmmm

  47. KSuellington

    | China on Sunday announced its first new death from COVID-19 in nearly half a year

    I wonder if they still have that epidemic of people just keeling over in the streets, like we saw at the beginning of the Vid panic?

    • UnCivilServant

      Oh, no, they’ve stopped keeling over in the streets since the curfews have been implemented.

      Now they slowly starve in their apartments.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Pernicious defeatism

    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley admitted that the likelihood of Ukraine successfully pushing Russia out of all of Ukraine’s territory is “not high.” Ukraine’s success on the battlefield has been remarkable, but the odds that it can recover every inch of ground Russia has taken since February are slim. Ukraine’s chances of retaking all of the Donbas or Crimea, which was seized in 2014, are nonexistent.

    Yet those still appear to be the war aims of the Zelenskyy government. And, as Milley also said, the U.S. is letting Ukraine decide when peace negotiations should start. While there seemed little prospect of Zelenskyy doing so, Milley promised, “We will be there as long as it takes to keep Ukraine free.”

    In the meantime, the United States continues to send massive amounts of aid, with little accountability, to a corrupt Ukrainian regime. The Biden administration already got Congress to spend $54 billion on Ukraine. The same day as the Polish incident, it announced that it wanted another $37 billion in emergency aid to keep the fighting going.

    This war effort is now costing nearly twice as much as the United States was spending on the war in Afghanistan in its final years—a price that Biden himself said was unacceptable when he initiated the disastrous American retreat from that country.

    Washington thought that stopping the Taliban from declaring victory, resuming human rights violations, and possibly hosting other terrorist organizations wasn’t worth the taxpayers’ money. But no price seems to be too high to preclude an outcome returning the situation in Ukraine to the status quo ante of February 2022.

    Damn the cost. We have to push those evil Russkies all the way back to Moscow!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I was listening to Horton on this. He said that Milley got a bit of a bad rap over Afghanistan and the trans in the military stuff, but he’s willing to go toe to toe with State over the Ukraine clusterfuck.

      It’s looking like the DOD is not on board with the effort and it’s State plus (probably corrupt) pols that are pushing it hard. Don’t know where the CIA lands on all of this.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Calling the ChiComs and breaking the chain of command is disqualifying enough for Milley. The guy should have been busted down to private and put in a military prison for that shit.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        He had a different take on that interaction and claimed it was mischaracterized in the media.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Given the totality of circs, I’m not persuaded by him.

    • Lackadaisical

      ‘, as Milley also said, the U.S. is letting Ukraine decide when peace negotiations should start. ‘

      Glad we’re ‘letting’ them negotiate their own war…

    • Tres Cool

      Isn’t “french pox” syphilis ?

      • PieInTheSky

        it is better to tell your wife it is “several accidents”

      • slumbrew

        Pretty sure you’re correct. “Those dirty French”, you know.

      • R.J.

        “Death by cheese eating surrender monkeys” was too long. So “French Pox.”

    • Lackadaisical

      Shit, life sucked back then.

      ‘worms ‘ and about 30 euphemisms for what are presumably bad ways to go.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Number one cause of death: Being a baby.

  49. DEG

    Update from NH: 97 NHLA (New Hampshire Liberty Alliance) endorsed candidates were elected to the NH State House and State Senate. I think it was 90 candidates, and only in the State House, in 2020.

    “It defines an [American] Indian child as a child who is either a tribal member or could someday become a tribal member based entirely on biological ancestry,” said Timothy Sandefur, an attorney with the Goldwater Institute, a conservative think tank that filed an amicus brief with the court in support of the Brackeens.

    Sandefur used to write for Liberty.

    Also from that article:

    “The Court has always held that Indian law is not race-based,” said Cherokee Nation Deputy Attorney General Chrissi Ross Nimmo.

    That reeks of horseshit to me. I’m certain the Court held that, but that holding is like saying the Sun rises in the West.

    From the homeschooling article:

    according to the Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey, an effort to examine the impact of COVID-19 on American life, the percentage of Texas families that home-school their children went up in 2020 — from 4.5% at the end of the 2019-20 school year to 12% at the start of the 2020-21 school year. The increase was particularly notable among Black families.

    Good.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    More cultural suicide?

    President Biden and first lady Jill Biden visited Marines and sailors aboard Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point in North Carolina Monday evening to celebrate Friendsgiving.

    Friendsgiving? WTF?

    Or is this just another Hallmark Holiday of which I have heretofore been blissfully unaware?

    • slumbrew

      No, it’s a thing (I’ve got one coming up) – a Thanksgiving-type meal with friends, separate from Thanksgiving itself, since we’ll all be dispersed doing Thanksgiving with our families.

      • Not Adahn

        ^This. It’s great.

      • UnCivilServant

        It just needs to do without some cutesy name that grates on the nerves and just makes one want to murder the over bubbly person gushing about it.

      • Mojeaux

        I think the concept and the name are great. It’s pithy.

      • Lackadaisical

        This is why you have no friends… 😉

      • Fourscore

        Do Glibs count?

        In days gone by we would have dinner with friends often, monthly-every 6 weeks or so. In between friends would entertain us.

        Now friends are way fewer and we tend to meet up at restaurants. Way less work and some are getting into the handicapped area.

      • Pope Jimbo

        He lost his Making Friends Gloves, what is he supposed to do?

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve been informed that Friendship is Magic, and that Magic is incompatable with reality, thereofre friendship is incompatable with reality

        /butchering metaphors.

      • Not Adahn

        It’s your own fault for associating with Bronies.

      • UnCivilServant

        I thought they were selling brownies, but when no confectionaries were on offer, I had to bail.

      • Aloysious

        ヾ(•ω•`)o

      • Gender Traitor

        Have it AFTER Thanksgiving and call it PTSD – Post-Thanksgiving Stress Dinner, where you recover from spending the holiday with your family.

      • Not Adahn

        After Thanksgiving is when you fry several pounds of bacon and make turkey sammiches.

      • slumbrew

        I’ll suggest that as an alternate title (we’re scheduled for Dec 3rd).

      • robc

        I thought you met friends at a bar on Thursday night to recover from spending time with family.

        Not having another meal.

      • Nephilium

        It was also a thing when I was younger, and had a group of friends that didn’t have family nearby (or family they were still in contact with). You’d go do the family meal, then end at a friends house with more food, and a lot more alcohol.

      • Lackadaisical

        Exactly. I think it’s wholesome and good for society. Adults should have friends.

      • Pope Jimbo

        We used to play football the day after. Then we’d drink. Get a couple of pizzas.

        Our kids eventually grew up to the point where they started playing. Then the kids wanted to change teams to be Young vs. Old. (Old stomped them every year). Now the kids have grown and moved and we don’t have enough coots to play anymore.

        We’ve been doing it since the late ’80s. When “Old Earl” used to host us. Old Earl was 36. We thought that was ancient and had no idea how he could still play.

        But I think if you tried calling it Friendsgiving you’d get your ass kicked.

      • Tundra

        The Wednesday before Thanksgiving was (is?) a huge bar night. When everyone was back in town and having a blast.

      • slumbrew

        That’s still a thing, too, in one’s hometown. This is a get-together up here.

      • slumbrew

        A chick is organizing and hosting, so “Friendsgiving” it is.

        You host, you can call it “Manly day of football and totally-not-gay-feelings” or whatever 😉

      • Pope Jimbo

        We actually called it the Barker Memorial. After one of the guys dad who died on a Black Friday decades ago.

        And just because we lounge around the keg afterwards in just our jocks doesn’t make it gay!

    • Not Adahn

      FYI: the Sunday after Thanksgiving I’m putting on a Winter Steel shoot at KF&G. We’ll see how many people are wanting to GTFO of the house.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ll see if I have any ammo.

    • Tres Cool

      Good Lord. Id take that malnourished thing out for Pizza Hut buffet and then Wendy’s for dessert.

      Now THIS is fitness.

      (don’t even try and make it “no, its FATness….low-hanging fruit)

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not sorry, you’re just wrong.

      • UnCivilServant

        You can be attracte dto whoever you want, but anyone that rivals me for gross tonnage is not fit.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Dressed in purple like that, she looks like the big run stopping defensive lineman the Vikes need so badly.

  51. Mojeaux

    I want to fisk a tweet, but she’s a friend of mine and I’m lazy.

    From WaPo: “But are we ever going to ask why so many supposedly mentally ill people seem to carry right-wing talking points along with their AR-15s?”

    • Lackadaisical

      Because you let the journalists tell you lies about what crazy people think?

    • slumbrew

      Substitute “left-wing” and, I dunno, “pussy hats” and it’s the same general-purpose ad hominem.

      • UnCivilServant

        Left wing and SKS and you’ve got the Bernie Bro shooting up congressional softball practice.

      • EvilSheldon

        I thought that he’d been running an AR as well?

    • EvilSheldon

      It seems like the WaPo has been asking this a lot. They must not like the answers they’ve been making up…

      • Not Adahn

        It’s a lot cheaper than paying for focus groups.

    • R.J.

      Can’t show blood. B&W solves that issue.

    • Lackadaisical

      What’s the outfit that does a traveling backyard brawl and posts the videos to YouTube?

      I don’t see any problems with this at all. Sometimes men just need to fight it out without killing each other or going to jail.

      • Tundra

        So good.

      • Tundra

        Brad Pitt is the best actor working today.

      • slumbrew

        It really is.

        Though I don’t think RocknRolla gets enough love. It’s got a Murderer’s Row of British acting talent:

        Gerard Butler
        Idris Elba
        Tom Hardy
        Mark Strong
        Tom Wilkinson
        Thandie Newton

        And a pile of lesser actors (Ludacris! Jeremy Piven! Gemma Arterton)

        I love that movie.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        👍 💎 dags

      • slumbrew

        Ohhh, good choice.

        Been forever since I’ve seen that.

      • Tundra

        Love it. It’s gotta be streaming somewhere.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Let the Ministry of Plenty run the distribution system

    The nation’s leading retailers warned Monday that Congress may need to step in to avert a devastating freight rail strike they fear could spoil food, interrupt the delivery of goods bought online and worsen inflation.

    The Retail Industry Leaders Association, a trade group whose members include Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot and dozens of other brands, said a strike would cause an “enormous disruption to the flow of goods nationwide” and ripple through the supply chain and economy at large.

    “Retailers urge policymakers to use every tool at their disposal to avoid a self-inflicted economic disaster,” the trade group said in a statement.

    The warning was issued shortly after America’s largest rail union rejected a tentative labor deal with freight railroads, raising the risk of a crippling national freight rail strike.

    “Fortunately, this year’s holiday gifts have already landed on store shelves,” the retail group said. “But an interruption to rail transportation does pose a significant challenge to getting items like perishable food products and e-commerce shipments delivered on time, and it will undoubtedly add to the inflationary pressures already hitting the US economy.

    The Retail Industry Leaders Association said that if no agreement is reached by December 9, Congress must act quickly to codify the tentative agreement reached in September.

    The National Retail Federation, the world’s largest retail trade group, similarly called on Congress to intervene “immediately” to avoid a “catastrophic shutdown” of the freight rail system.

    A rail strike would come at a difficult time as the US economy is still grappling with high inflation, surging borrowing costs and elevated recession risks.

    Fuck the unions, and all that, but putting Congress in charge doesn’t strike me as a good idea, either.

    • juris imprudent

      Right, like shit bound for shelves in the next week or two is going via rail.

      • R.J.

        That’s how we move gas and diesel. Since Biden the dumbass shut down pipelines, rail is one of the only ways to move fuel around. Without fuel you can’t ship anything.

    • Tres Cool

      Arent most employees of congress-critters eligible to be in the AFGE ?
      They’re union too- SOLIDARITY!

  53. The Late P Brooks

    From WaPo: “But are we ever going to ask why so many supposedly mentally ill people seem to carry right-wing talking points along with their AR-15s?”

    Being “right wing” is its own category of mental illness. Same with gun nuttery.

    • juris imprudent

      Double plus ungood.

    • Fatty Bolger

      The millions of voters who flocked to the polls to pull the Democratic lever set historic records and swamped the Trump voters.

      Not quite, Trump voters vastly outnumbered Biden voters at the polls. Biden won via mail in ballots.

    • Tres Cool

      I dont disagree. Trump is Trump, and all his actions and plans I feel did have the best interest of the country in mind.
      But he still has a ridiculous amount of grassroots support, and whomever the GOP comes up with wont ever get those votes. He’ll fracture the party.
      I do the the idea that I read here- “Trump should announce he’s running as a democrat”.

      That would be awesome.

  54. Mojeaux

    Now Twitter’s running an algorithm that gives me the same people repeatedly. I want everybody I follow’s tweets to show up in my feed as they happen.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      Click on the star in the upper right and select “Latest Tweets”.

  55. Mojeaux

    I will say again that Vince Guaraldi’s Peanuts album is the best Chriatmas album ever.