Boxing Day Open Thread

by | Dec 26, 2022 | Children, Entertainment, History | 168 comments

What the fuck is Boxing Day? It sounds like some English thing where they very properly box up all their trash and take it to the dump and then have tea with the family. If it was an Irish holiday, the name would make sense. Day 3 with your family and holiday drinking? “Get in the ring ye fookin’ cuntes!”

From Wikipedia: “Though it originated as a holiday to give gifts to the poor, today Boxing Day is primarily known as a shopping holiday.” 

That is pretty much the template for how the 20th Century evolved.

Now get in the ring, Glibs, its a Boxing Day free-for-all

About The Author

Brett L

Brett L

Brett set out to find America, the real America, the America of strip malls and serial killers, of butthole waxing and kelp smoothies, of cocaine and maggots. He sought it in the most American part of America—Florida: swamp gas and fever dreams, where love arrives on a rickety boat and leaves when it doesn't have the money for its fourth abortion. Oh, where has Brett gone? He’s drinking at the neck of America’s wang, chewing its foreskin and working its shaft. Brett is becoming legend. Brett can never die. Brett can never die. Brett is America, facedown in his own patriotic puke: the red his blood, the white his stomach lining, and the cold, cold blue his gas station slushie, spiked with coconut rum and tetracycline.

168 Comments

  1. The Bearded Hobbit

    The day that you box up for return all of the presents that you got and don’t want

    • Sean

      I have a high success rate on presents I like. I don’t return stuff.

      • Fourscore

        Those you don’t like re-gift. I’m not much on returns either or sending stuff back to Amazon and waiting, waiting for the credit.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      Mrs. Hobbit takes care of all gift-buying for everyone else. Around Dec 1st I ask her what she wants and then I buy it, and buy something for myself. She got 3 bottles of Chanel Parfum and I got a $100 bottle of scotch. Works for us.

  2. The Bearded Hobbit

    Brett,

    SugarFree’s bio of you still cracks me up after all this time.

    • juris imprudent

      Now there’s a thought – secret Santa rewrites of everyones’ bios.

  3. The Bearded Hobbit

    Am I going to have start posting quotations again?

    • juris imprudent

      I can’t believe everyone is watching the Chargers-Colts game. [I hear the Wizard of Oz in the other room.]

      • MikeS

        I’m watching Lift Arc Studios. And drinking. And making CAD drawrings.

      • MikeS

        And watching a “new” CPRM video that is not new. False advertising!

      • Brochettaward

        Downvote it. You know you want to.

      • rhywun

        That game does not hold enough interest to make me change the channel from this Law and Order marathon.

  4. Ted S.

    I thought it was to give the servants a day off after Christmas and let them celebrate the holiday.

    • R.J.

      So did you cancel the servant’s holiday then?

    • Fourscore

      I thought it would be the music that boxers chose when they dance down the aisle in advance of getting beat up.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        Dammit.

      • MikeS

        I’ve seen some of his videos before. He knows his shit and makes absolutely beautiful stuff. I wish I possessed a quarter of his machining knowledge.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        I just found him today, loving it. And yeah, he knows what he is doing. I don’t have any interest in horology, but the small side of what he does is really cool.

  5. Ownbestenemy

    Carved up the left over prime rib, got some nice rolls and made up a mushroom jus. Impromptu French dips and I am stuffed

    • pistoffnick

      We also made prime rib today. Salt, pepper, onion powder, garlic powder. Rub the meat with olive oil. Pat on the spice mixture. 500 deg F for 15 minutes, then at 325 degF for 15 minutes per pound. It turned out great. Homemade au jus: Meat drippings with fat skimmed off, red wine, Worcestershire, and beef broth. So easy, so good.

  6. Ownbestenemy

    It’s a tragedy her bits from the old Current website have been nearly scrubbed from the internet

    https://youtu.be/dTVnAFA_u8M

  7. Brochettaward

    Tua put himself in the concussion protocol again after his disastrous fourth quarter. Is he looking for excuses?

    I don’t give a fuck. The day of guys self-reporting concussion symptoms to miss games aint for me. Firsters aren’t scared of brain trauma.

    • MikeS

      It’s like a tee-ball game here.

      • Brochettaward

        Firsting is a full contact sport when done right. The most violent and glorious combat of physical skill known to man. I can barely lift my arms by the end of most days. Not to mention the damage to my back from carrying the weight of the world on it.

      • MikeS

        Always lift with your legs.

      • Brochettaward

        You don’t know even the most rudimentary things about being First. The First starts in the pelvis. It requires full body engagement. Every muscle, every tendon working in unison.

      • MikeS

        I use my fourth eye to read GlibFit. There I’ve learned good exercises to keep my Firsting muscles in shape so I don’t get sore.

      • Brochettaward

        There’s no such thing as a fourth eye. That doesn’t even make sense.

      • pistoffnick

        psah!

        I see all with my 5th eye and my 19th chakra.

      • UnCivilServant

        Are you sure? Four-eyes are common.

      • MikeS

        19 Chakras!? So greedy!

      • Brochettaward

        Firstism and Hinduism have nothing in common. Fuck your chakras.

        Firsting is a celebration of meat eating, prom queen fucking, testosterone fueled Firsters.

      • Brochettaward

        Firsting is about conquest.

      • pistoffnick

        And when there are no more conquests? What does a “firster” do?

      • Brochettaward

        He conquers some more. A Firster never runs out of conquests, even when every inch of land belongs to the Firsters there will always be conquests to be had. It is the pillar of the Seven Virtues of Firsting.

      • MikeS

        Seven Virtues? Do tell!

      • pistoffnick

        I have found my 7th eye and my 51st chakra.

        The race is on…

      • UnCivilServant

        So, Nick has transformed into an eldrich abomination.

        Who loaned him the wrong book?

      • pistoffnick

        …wouldn’t risk bruising my Firsting hand dealing with this.

        I.E. “LOOK OVER THERE!” instead on here.

        Come on, Bro.

      • pistoffnick

        … meat eating,

        prom queen fucking,

        …testosterone fueled Firsters.

        I have eaten many more different meats than the Bro. Have you had donkey? Have you had monkey? Have you eaten cat?
        I have fucked no more prom queens than the bro, because who really wants to fuck the prom queen? Prom queens tend to be unfuckable, INMHNSHUMBLEE.
        I have crossed a more rivers
        I have found more gold
        I have broke more hearts
        I have thought more about life than the Bro.
        The Bro is is the LEAST COMMON DENOMENATOR is modern discussion.
        Fuck the Bro!
        I have

      • MikeS

        🤔

      • Brochettaward

        Nick is lost in the sauce. I wouldn’t risk bruising my Firsting hand dealing with this.

  8. Rufus the Monocled

    I had to go pick up my daughter who spent a few hours at the mall (the 13th largest in Canada. Func fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_shopping_centres_in_Canadawith a friend.

    Took me 20 minutes to exit the bloody place.

    They didn’t even buy anything as they gave up because the line-ups to get into places were too long.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      the line-ups to get into places were too long.

      Thus describes why I will probably never enter into popular places.

      When the sign at Disneyland said, “Wait time 90 minutes” I said, “Oh, hell no.” Haven’t been back since.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        My wife set us up for fast passes when we went in 2013. Worked like a charm. Plus it was November and ‘off-season’ so that helped.

      • Rat on a train

        Election day was my favorite time to go.

  9. Brochettaward

    The Civil Rights Lawyer posted a video of police murdering some old man who may or may not have been completely confused and suffering from dementia. He claims that there were 12,000 old people who ended up in hospitals or seeking medical treatment as a result of injuries suffered from police.

    But he never stops to ask if those police officers made it home safely or if they suffered scratches and tore a shirt while tackling Grandpa Joe to the ground. And using that name, I am saddened by the fact that Biden ruined a classic American name.

    • Brochettaward

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4rmsFXGX4

      Not the best camera footage as it was taken by a cop arriving at the scene in the middle of it from another department. He at least expresses his own discomfort at what he just witnessed which seems to be a rarity among those on the other side of the fat blue line.

      • Brochettaward

        Speaking of a good cop:

        The video footage shows the sergeant turn around while backpedaling as he was pulled by the officer. He then momentarily places his hand at the throat of the officer and pushes her backward, until her back hits a nearby police vehicle, according to the clip and the statement from the chief. The sergeant then walks away.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Relieved of supervisory duties, not arrested.

        Someone with arm tatts like those has zero business as a cop period. Fired on the spot.

      • Tonio

        “the fat blue line” ftw, Bro.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        Awesome.

      • MikeS

        It seemed like he was about to say “that’s gonna be a lawsuit” just before remembering his camera was still on.

      • Brochettaward

        He is likely very well aware that he is being recorded and may just be covering his ass.

      • MikeS

        That thought crossed my mind, too. Too scared of the fat blue line (nice one, BTW) to do anything on scene, but he’ll righteously bitch about it after the fact…but not in court or anywhere it will matter.

    • Festus

      Shared porn. 1970’s key parties for the digital age!

    • MikeS

      Subscription sharing has also made it more difficult for the company to expand its service and productions into new markets, according to the company.

      Of course. It couldn’t possibly be their programming choices.

      • Rat on a train

        Between the Obamas, the Markles, and the groomers what’s not to like?

    • rhywun

      I have never used Netflix but something is not clear here.

      If it was “never allowed”, then why didn’t they put a stop to it years ago? It’s trivially easy to limit logins to a single machine.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m pretty sure the paying user is allowed to login from multiple devices, and they didn’t enforce that rule because they were rolling in cash and antagonizing their user base isn’t going to increase cashflow. But someone now thinks that being broke and antagonizing their user base is going to increase cashflow instead of piracy.

      • rhywun

        they didn’t enforce that rule because they were rolling in cash

        Yeah, that’s my guess.

        antagonizing their user base is going to increase cashflow

        And yeah, I’m seeing a LOT of this in recent years.

      • Festus

        Like any marketing scheme. The first hit is free!

    • Brochettaward

      Whatever they do, it’s going to create massive backlash. And let them try to get criminal charges against people for sharing a Netflix account. See how that goes for them. Really great look for your brand at the end of the day. Worked so well to prevent file sharing back in the day.

      Fucking clowns.

      I refuse to give any of these tech giants any revenue when it is avoidable. They hate me and I’m perfectly fine hating them back.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Fuck the so called adults mooching off their parents’ subscriptions as well.

      • MikeS

        We need a Federal law that kids can stay on their parents’ Netflix plans until age 26.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Followed by federal subsidy of streaming services. The FCC’s universal service slush fund can be expanded!

      • MikeS

        I want my Obama phone Hulu!

  10. Festus

    Watch this. https://youtu.be/VMS_4k8DBqA She is amazingly beautiful and as smart as a whip. A bit much of a God-botherer for my taste but very sensible, nonetheless.

    • Penguin

      Wow, with that name, she could just call herself Ms. Dutchy Dutch.

      • Penguin

        Cute though.

  11. Festus

    At the risk of cat-butt, I finally tried some Raclette. It smelled and tasted like toe jam. Swiss cheese is worse than head cheese. So pungent.

    • Gender Traitor

      Au contraire! Swiss cheese is awesome! My favorite burger at our regional Big Boy chain was always the Swiss Miss – a burger with Swiss cheese, lettuce, and, of course, their signature tartar sauce. I haz a sad because they’ve discontinued it. 😢

    • rhywun

      I tried five times to respond to this. I wonder what the Glibbot finds so objectionable sometimes.

    • pistoffnick

      OMG! How did you try it…worries about the Canadian Race.

      Melted Raclette over par-boiled broccoli and cauliflower (or tradicianalany, over potatoes) is near nirvana.

      • Festus

        Granted, it was raw in a chicuterie. Melted probably works better.

  12. Brochettaward

    TOS is running a story on the Star Wars prequels being good.

    • MikeS

      You mean Reason?

      • UnCivilServant

        Tahoe Ornithological Society

      • MikeS

        I sort of understood the childish “TOS” stuff early on, but I think enough time has gone by we can all grow up and call Reason by it’s name. I mean, it’s like if Christians referred to Judaism as The Other Religion.

      • Brochettaward

        Christians spent centuries upon centuries launching pogroms against Jews and forcing them to live in ghettos and limiting their occupations and depicting them as rat-like.

        I use TOS more out of mockery at this stage. The only reason I see their stories is because they show up on my Facebook feed. The place has gone even further down hill over time and the only content worth anything seems to be the spoof videos and Remy who inexplicably still associates himself with them.

      • Festus

        Robbie sold out!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Fruit sushi has a short shelf life.

      • Brochettaward

        Robbie was always a clown to me. He tip-toed around calling out the bullshit when he was covering the campus rape nonsense. It was the commenting section who completely called out the UVA rape story being bullshit, and then he slowly started to go down that road. It was a rare instance where I think the comment section at a site led the reporting even though Reason writers, especially the modern group, seem to do nothing but denigrate that comment section.

        What were we called again? The idiot peanut gallery? I think that was Pope Hat BEFORE he went totally fucking insane with Trump.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Postrel was embarrassed by the commentariat years before TDS.

      • MikeS

        Postrel was embarrassed by the commentariat years before TDS.

        I sometimes wonder if the same hasn’t happened here.

      • Brochettaward

        I don’t think the people who started this site actively hate the regular commenters, though a few of them do seem to have a special hatred for Firsters. I just think it’s more appealing sometimes to form a clique within a clique. They have their private little chatroom apparently. It’s also possible some of them simply joined to keep the relationships they had with that small circle of people.

        But it is strange that a couple of them were very active when they used to post on Reason, but they only make a rare appearance in their own morning links or…never.

      • Brochettaward

        According to Swiss, there was a 7-6 vote on whether to ban me with the neighs winning out. Because I made one post saying I’m an asshole.

        I’d love to see the tally on that one.

      • Brochettaward

        *nays

      • MikeS

        Yeah, their little clubhouse chatroom is interesting. I used to think that some of the Founders completely bailed, but then one of the few that bothers to post/comment will write something that makes it clear they’ve all been conversing all along in their safe space.

        And yes, I get it…they’re all close friends and they now have enough friends and don’t need any more. But you’d think they could make the occasional comment on the website they were instrumental in starting. There are many commenters here who make more comments in a week than all the Founders combined. Beginning (or middle) of the end?

      • Brochettaward

        I think this place has a dedicate core group that won’t go anywhere for a while. Over time as life happens, maybe people start leaving and this isn’t the sort of place that really pushes to bring in new users.

        If you could just get the morning people to post more throughout the day, I don’t think we’d really be questioning the strength of the community.

        But there are some interesting founders who I’d like to hear more from. There’s one or two who…I don’t like those people. Thinking of one in particular who, while not having done it in a while, he was just a raging asshole in a way that would get any other poster banned but it was perfectly acceptable when he did it.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Re: the absences: I think some of those, if they hadn’t been TPTB, would have moved on entirely. Just like some ordinary Glibs. Life happens. Auld lane syne.

      • MikeS

        if they hadn’t been TPTB, would have moved on entirely

        Absolutely. I don’t blame anyone for that. Life happens.

        But…I wonder how much of their private chat could happen on the main site, thereby adding more value for all of us. Often you’ll see one of them Hat Tip a Founder who hasn’t commented in months/years. Why couldn’t that person come here and share it with everyone?

      • MikeS

        You apparently read way to much into my analogy. And if you really want to ironically mock “Reason”, call them by their name.

      • CPRM

        TOS is ezr 2 rt. Fuck, don’t tell me what to do!

      • Penguin

        It’s easier to spell (and type) TOS than Reason, Mike.

        I don’t do it often, because I feel betrayed. They dove so deep for no rational purpose. TOS works for me.

      • MikeS

        You managed to spell and type words like “betrayed” and “rational”. “Reason” shouldn’t be any more difficult.

        But, I’m willing to admit that I’m being irrational with my hatred of “TOS”. I also hate “TPTB” and “SWMBO”. And I’m a Pisces.

      • Brochettaward

        I don’t recall ever seeing SWMBO around here. I do hate TPTB. While I’m grateful to the people who started this site and the effort it takes to keep it running with constant content, it strikes the wrong cord with me.

      • MikeS

        Yeah, I ran across SWMBO years ago in homebrewing forums: “She Who Must Be Obeyed”. I don’t recall seeing it here, it’s just came to mind.

        While I’m grateful to the people who started this site and the effort it takes to keep it running with constant content, it strikes the wrong cord with me.

        Agree 100% on both counts.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I don’t recall that acronym but instantly reminded me of Rumpole. Probably the second best thing to spring from John Mortimer.

      • Penguin

        Reason Reason Reason; happy now, Mike? It’s not an irrational hate when you are betrayed.

        Fuck them and their cocktail parties. I gave them a large donation in 2012, they’re still sending me magazines.

        Gotta have something to read on the pooper. If you need something to listen to, here’s some UFO.

      • Penguin

        BTW, the song title was not a coincidence…

      • MikeS

        Not sure if you’re going to see this Penguin, but I wasn’t calling your hate irrational. Just mine.

      • Rat on a train

        Star Trek?

    • Festus

      Now they are just fucking with you. The old ones were lame enough. Reason has lost all reason.

  13. Festus

    Last night I had a dream within a dream. I was able to shed my sins by putting my soul into a tiny lock-box built into the wall. The portion of my sin was a human fetus about six months old, wrapped up. Then the next part happened. I was happy as a clam until I noticed that some of the people around me were eating the special food that those of us (ME) were only supposed to eat. I look up and the wall has millions of niches.

    • MikeS

      That sounds very trippy.

      • Festus

        A scream within a dream. I need to start listening to more wholesome tales when I don the night cap.

      • Festus

        I could play that on guitar when I was just a wisp of a boy.

      • Penguin

        Great song.

      • Penguin

        Oops, sorry, that’s just “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun” from Saucerful.

      • Penguin

        Also, Echoes.

  14. Gustave Lytton

    How long before the Casting Society of America changes their name because of the problematic lettering and re-edits screen credits to remove them?

    • Festus

      ^ I seen that.

  15. Festus

    Good night and good day to all of you Glibertarians! Thanks for yet another year of snark and actual feelings. I love you all!

  16. Ownbestenemy

    https://dnyuz.com/2022/12/26/democrats-feeling-new-strength-plan-to-go-on-offense-on-voting-rights/

    They are putting forward a long list of proposals that include creating automatic voter registration systems, preregistering teenagers to vote before they turn 18, returning the franchise to felons released from prison and criminalizing election misinformation.

    Only thing that is positive is stop treating felons as outcasts if they are no longer on probation and have served their time.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Unless it’s restoration of their gun rights.

      • Brochettaward

        That would require some actual principles and a belief in that old document written by white slavers like a hundred years ago.

    • rhywun

      Republican efforts to curtail voting access

      Not even one sentence in, a lie.

      Pass.

  17. Sean

    Mornin.

    • Brochettaward

      Do you First, Sean?

      I First. I First hard.

    • Tres Cool

      She’s not what I expected with a name like Marylue Wigglesworth.

    • Tres Cool

      Heh. 69 News.

      Giggity.

    • Penguin

      Jesus, dumbass (not talking to you, Sean), download them to a computer in a secret file. How hard is that?

      Although yeah, if he wasn’t in them, she overreacted. But whaddaya want? It’s Joisey/Philly!

    • Tres Cool

      Im certainly no therapist, but Im going to guess that they had other issues at work, too.
      Or the pics were her sister. Or mom. Or best-friend. Hell, why not all three ?

      • UnCivilServant

        Her Mom is her Sister?

  18. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

    • Gender Traitor

      This morning I get to see how bad the damage is from the burst (sprinkler?) pipe (again!) at our office. According to my boss, it was (again) near my office, but not affecting it directly this time. 🙄

      • robodruid

        again?
        Good Morning.

      • Gender Traitor

        Yeah – a few years ago during the first weekend in January, we had a cold snap and a sprinkler head burst in the hallway right outside my office. I had to move all my stuff into another office for several weeks during my busiest time of the year. I didn’t recover from that disruption for months.

      • UnCivilServant

        The thermostat wasn’t even on “Don’t freeze the pipes” temperature?

      • Gender Traitor

        Our building was extensively remodeled some years back, and I think the HVAC system has been screwy ever since. If it was, as I suspect, part of the sprinkler system that burst like last time, I’m not even sure that’s in operation. We should just get the damn pipes taken out.

      • Not Adahn

        At my firs “real” job after college, The water still for the labs was located above the boss’s office. It made use of glass piping. There were a couple of thermal shock incidents.

      • Penguin

        “Hey, hey, new guy…c’mere, touch this,”

        Not Not Adahn, ever.

      • Grosspatzer

        Oh, joy.. Nice way to return from the holiday.

  19. Grosspatzer

    Mornin’, reprobates!

  20. Rat on a train

    Nuke the Commies from orbit

    Medina explained that the event scheduled for Sunday, Jan. 1 is intended to honor the Hogs at both pregame and half time.

    “The original HOGS do not want to be associated with the Commanders under its current ownership and management and require that their legacy and brand is protected,” Berenzweig said.

    Berenzweig said that the former HOGS players hired his firm to help them form a company called O-Line Entertainment, and to file a federal application for the trademark to the “Hogs” and the Original HOGS. He said the application is currently pending at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

    “This is not yet a lawsuit, but it may be,” Berenzweig told WTOP. “We’ve been trying to negotiate a license with the Commanders, and we’ve gotten absolutely nowhere. When someone holds a trademark, it’s their property, and the only way that someone else can use it is with permission through a license.”

    Don’t go if you don’t want to be part of the event.
    You get the trademark before you enforce it.

    • R C Dean

      Prior use by somebody else can block somebody from registering a trademark.

      Good for them, I say. Fuck the Commies.

      Which reminds me: Anybody know how much the Guardians had to pay that rollerball team?

  21. Not Adahn

    I wrote up the story of Boxing Day at that part of the Sunday Column that people skip over. There were some particularly good Lily vids in that one.

    • UnCivilServant

      Sunday was an inopportune time for Glibbing.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m assuming her True Fans go back and watch the vids on their own time.

  22. Not Adahn

    I thought it was just a device or network issue, but it’s looking more likely that I actually only received one (1) email yesterday. I don’t think that happened at any point in my career before. They didn’t fire me, my badge still works.

    • UnCivilServant

      They fired everyone else?

      The SMTP daemons failed?

  23. Rat on a train

    Forget Trump 2024, Elon Musk is going to win. (Russian)

    What could happen in 2023:
    What could happen in 2023:
    1. Raising oil prices to $ 150 per barrel and gas prices to $ 5,000 per 1 thousand cubic meters. m.
    2. The return of Great Britain to the European Union.
    3. The collapse of the European Union after the return of Great Britain and the abolition of the euro as the currency of the former EU.
    4. Capture by Poland and Hungary of the western regions of the former Ukraine.
    5. Creation of the Fourth Reich on the basis of Germany and the satellites adjacent to it ( Polshi, the countries of the Baltic states, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, the Kiev Republic, etc. marginalized ).
    6. The war between France and the Fourth Reich. Section of Europe, including the new section of Poland.
    7. Northern Ireland Office for the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and accession to the Republic of Ireland.
    8. US Civil War, the separation of California and Texas into independent states. Creation of the union state of Texas and Mexico. The subsequent victory of Ilon Musk during the election of the US president in terms of states assigned to the Republicans after the civil war.
    9. Transfer of all major stock sites and financial activity from the USA and Europe to Asia.
    10. The collapse of the Bretton Woods financial system, including the collapse of the IMF and the World Bank. Refusal of the euro and the dollar as world reserve currencies. The return of the gold standard. Transition to the active use of digital fiat currencies.

    • robodruid

      It could happen?

    • Grosspatzer

      Quite the eclectic collection. Reunification of Tejas and Mexico would solve the border issues, for sure.

      • R C Dean

        And all in one year, too.

        My prediction: Only the first one has the slightest chance of happening next year. Some kind of transition to digital currency (hint: 90+% is already digital) someday, but collapse of the euro and the dollar? Next year?

    • Penguin

      Перед новым годом все любят делать прогнозы

      Hey! He mentioned l0b0t!

      Seriously, though some of those are a lot more plausible than others. A Fourth Reich? Yeah, believe it when I see it. Transition to digital fiat currencies? Surprised it hasn’t happened already.

  24. R.J.

    Morning all