BLC’s Encounters with Police – Part 6 – So this is Jail? Part 2

by | Jan 3, 2023 | Beer, Cops, Crime, Musings | 214 comments

Quick Recap from Part 1: Got a fake ID. Went to get beer for a party. Got pulled over with Nathan driving. Chief of Police showed, we were definitely going to jail.

 

**Important note: I went to college in one of two counties in Indiana didn’t “ticket” arrest for minor consumption, but actually took people to Jail.

Typical words of exchange were had. When Nathan got his registration out, they saw his fake and confiscated it. They shined the flashlight under the seat, but somehow missed my fake (or so I thought). We were told to exit the vehicle. I could look up and see the faces of people watching us. The cuffs were slapped on and I was loaded up into the Jeep Cherokee that the Chief of Police drove. Officer Friendly moved the truck to a small parking lot a few hundred yards away, so we didn’t have to pay for a tow and impound.

They didn’t take us straight to jail. Of course, for such a heinous crime, we had to be interrogated. At the campus police station, they sat us down to ask where we were drinking. One rule we always had; you were NEVER drinking at the fraternity house if you got caught. We were a dry house and already in quite a bit of trouble for things. So we did what you’re supposed to do to the police, lie.

I told them I was drinking in the dorms (I was a freshman and still lived in the dorm). I live on the second floor, so I told them I was drinking on the fourth floor. “Some guy’s room, I think they call him Steve-O.” They didn’t believe my lie for a second. They kept pressing me to say I was drinking at the house, but I stood by my story.

Nathan went a different route. He said he was at our rival Alpha Beta (not the real frat name, you know, since we aren’t Tri-Lamb’s). “Some guy named Gerry’s room.” It should be noted, Nathan’s dad was named Gerry. They ate it up, hook, line, and sinker. They believed every word he said. When this all came out later, it did not help our relations with Alpha Beta, and for some reason when we cut down the pine tree next to their front door for our Christmas party, they weren’t happy with that either.

Next, we were loaded back up in a Police car and carted off to the county jail. We were booked and placed in the drunk tank. There was nothing spectacular about that. We were among the youngest in there. About an hour or so after arriving, another kid our age arrived. He was pissed. He sat with us and told us his story. He was asleep in his fourth-floor dorm room when the police came knocking. They asked him if his name was Steve. It was. They asked if people called him Steve-O. He asked why. They asked if he’d been drinking. He had. They breathalyzed him and took him to jail.

Fuck, that poor kid got arrested because of my made-up story. Maybe I should have used a more exotic name than Steve. But what the fuck, who follows up on a dumb story like that for a minor consumption? Seriously. What a bunch of sociopaths. I never told the kid he got busted because of me. I felt bad but didn’t need a fight in jail. Lucky him, we got to shower together before being placed in our cells for the night. I got to bunk with Nathan, which I’m not sure was a blessing because he kept me up all night. I never saw poor Steve-O again.

The fraternity house had a policy to always bail out brothers. Nathan and I were bailed out the next morning. We went back and got Nate’s truck. apparently, Officer Friendly had seen my fake ID when shining his flashlight under the seat. It was sitting face up on the passenger side seat. I’m really surprised he didn’t at least take it. Of course, some seniors of our house decided the best place for me to go after getting out of jail was the bar. So that’s what we did. I got a free lawyer from the law school. It was a few hundred dollars in fines and some community service. I did my community service the Fraternal Order of Eagles club. The lady who ran it would give you about 20 minutes of work and then mark down six hours of service. She also let us drink from the keg in the banquet room if any was left after events. I’m not quite sure she knew we were there because of alcohol offences. It all was certainly an experience.

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214 Comments

  1. Brochettaward

    This First is for the h8ters and bullies.

    • Brochettaward

      I think doing a part 2 of a story on the same day is a first around here. I think it makes it easier to follow rather than waiting a week. It makes sense for some content, maybe a good idea on some others like this.

  2. R.J.

    Was Steve’s last name Smith? That would be too good.

  3. Gustave Lytton

    we got to shower together before being placed in our cells for the night

    No judging

    • banginglc1

      That whole “don’t drop the soap” thing . . . the soap was in giant bottles on the floor with a pump. There was no way not to bend over to use it.

      • Sean

        “With a pump”

        Uh huh.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        SQUAT!!!

    • R.J.

      They were lucky Officer Friendly didn’t come check on them to make sure they washed behind their ears.

  4. Brochettaward

    Something for the tough on crime boomers around here to think about – they’ll laugh at this sort of story as harmless hijinks.

    The punishment for the behavior would involve a lot more bullshit today. banginglc would probably be doing mandatory AA meetings and paying thousands in fines. It’s ambiguous if he was DUI’ing in this story, but the drunk tank aspect of it suggests that they were.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      The punishment for the behavior would involve a lot more bullshit today

      Oh, yeah.

      I had a DWI in the late 70’s. I was released before dawn on Own Recognizance, attended Traffic School* and the offense was purged from my record.

      Today it is way over $10k in fines, plus ignition interlock on all vehicles (at over $1k per car).

      *My drivers license was suspended but I drove my motorcycle back and forth to traffic school.

      • Brochettaward

        This story is so common with the older people I talk to. Yet there remains a really high correlation between people who did it themselves and people who don’t just agree with DUI laws (I’m not attempting to question their validity), but who get outright sanctimonious about the subject.

        Nearly everyone I know, until this most recent pussified generation coming up, drank and drove at some point. Whether you got caught or not varies. But people are all gung ho about dragging people through the mud and they practically jump over themselves to call for harsher and harsher punishments for it.

        I heard a First Sergeant in the Army talk about how much he hates drunk drivers. Saw him out at a bar by himself shooting pool and drinking. He did not get a ride home. But he had zero tolerance for that shit!

      • rhywun

        I drank and drove one night – from Buffalo to Batavia and without a license – if only because my buddy was drunker than I was.

      • juris imprudent

        Real simple – there was the before MADD times, and the after. I think they even eventually cracked Texas – at least officially, the law may not be all that vigorously enforced.

      • R.J.

        Oh my God, the drunk driving laws in Texas will bankrupt you. And the cops love to snag people for it because of the massive cash haul it brings in.

      • Chafed

        The rise of MADD is definitely the dividing line.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Today it is way over $10k in fines, plus ignition interlock on all vehicles (at over $1k per car).

        And yet knowing that, people still drink and drive. And not just the habitual drunkards.

      • MikeS

        Because 99.99999999999999999% of them do so without any sort of issue, legal or otherwise.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        It’s rarely the habitual drunks, it is the weekend party crowd.

        Habituals are usually pretty good about knowing how to drive drunk, and don’t get caught as a result.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        Or whose cousin is a judge.

      • MikeS

        A friend of mine got pulled over by a notoriously aggressive (and ignorant) deputy. He blew a .03. She arrested him for DUI anyway, and even the State’s Attorney didn’t drop it. He had to go to court for a BAC less than half the legal limit. The judge thankfully threw it out.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Same thing can happen around here. .08 is merely the threshold that you are presumed to be intoxicated without any further proof required. You can be arrested (and convicted) if you exhibit intoxicated behavior even with a BAC under that.

      • Brochettaward

        What Gustave said. If a cop said you failed a field sobriety test, you failed it and it’s evidence of intoxication.

      • MikeS

        Evidence, but not proof. It’s such an easy thing for cops to lie about. And it should require more than a gung-ho cop saying “he had glassy and bloodshot eyes”.

        And then there’s the people who drive better at .10 BAC than many sober people do. I guess when the King builds the roads, he can do whatever stupid shit he wants to those who use them.

      • Chafed

        You do not have to perform field sobriety tests. You are all correct they are just fodder to show actual impairment. Don’t do them.

      • Brochettaward

        They will arrest you anyway, most likely. And then subject you to a breathalyzer. In the state of Florida, refusing the breathalyzer is essentially a conviction as far as the driver license is concerned. Do it a second time, it’s an automatic conviction.

      • Pat

        It’s such an easy thing for cops to lie about. And it should require more than a gung-ho cop saying “he had glassy and bloodshot eyes”.

        I got pulled over about 2 blocks from my house shortly after I moved to my current location. For supposedly blowing through a stop sign. My recollection is that I made a full stop, but I’m willing to concede it may have been a rolling stop, seeing as it was around 11 at night, on a side street, with no other cars around for 10 miles in any direction.

        Cop comes up, we do the document exchange. He tells me I look nervous, I say nothing. Asks if I’ve had anything to drink this evening. I hadn’t. In those days I drank about twice a year and I was sober as a nun when I got stopped. I tell him nope, haven’t been drinking anything. He tells me “You look like you’re on something.” I give him a sideways glance and tell him “OK then.” Asks where I’m driving from. I tell him I was at the grocery store doing my shopping and I’m less than 2 blocks away from my house. He shines his flashlight into my back seat and sees it filled with grocery bags. Goes to his car. At this point I’m certain I’m getting the field sobriety and breathalyzer rigmarole, which makes me anxious, because even though I’m not drunk and haven’t done anything wrong besides *maybe* failing to put my car into park at a stop sign on a side street, I know goddamn good and well how this game is played, and Dudley Do-Right has been angling that way apparently since he pulled up behind me. He comes back about 5 minutes later, having run my license and found nothing – not even a speeding ticket – and possibly noticing the fucking address literally 2 blocks down the same street on which we’re stopped. Gives me my paperwork back, tells me to make sure to watch that stop sign next time, and takes off.

        It’s amazing how a stupid-simple interaction like that could have gone so differently if the cop had decided to be a prick. There’s a pretty good amount of drug activity in my neighborhood, and I drive a shitty, beat up old car, so I’m sure they were expecting to be pulling over some junkie and making the highlight reel on Live PD. But even if I were a junkie, did I do anything to jeopardize public safety that evening? Even if I did, in fact, come to a rolling stop (which was more than likely just a pretext to get my windows down and look around my car)? No.

      • CPRM

        If the STOP sign has a white outline it’s basically the same thing as a Yield sign, it’s #Science.

    • Fourscore

      Great story, Banginglc

      Back in the olden days in MN DWI was a .15 BA. A guy I know drove many, many times and luckily never had an accident or got a ticket, mostly due to a lack of police, more than anything. That guy was very lucky in a lot of ways.

  5. Rat on a train

    Two parts in one day? I don’t know if I can cope.

  6. Ted S.

    I was expecting everyone to die from the clot shot.

  7. Brochettaward

    From dead thread, on the Washington power station attacks. Posted by Gustave

    Right wing extremists caught!

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/press-release/file/1560621/download

    It doesn’t appear to be political at all, but two morons who thought disrupting power to a certain area would aid them in a burglary. They were dumb enough to have their phones on them at the time they went to each of the four substations making them ridiculously easy to locate. Criminals really haven’t caught on at this point that if you’re going to commit a crime, do not take your phone or any sort of device with GPS on it with you? Cops don’t even have to do any actual detective work these days, from the looks of things. It’s all 23andme.com for DNA and phone data.

    • EvilSheldon

      Those guns look right out of the Great Depression. Couldn’t the feeb have at least dropped a converted AR on them, just for the optics?

      • R.J.

        Yes. I mentioned that in the previous thread. Those are some stupid, tatty-ass bums with shitty old hardware.

      • Fourscore

        Those were throwaways, surely there must be a river or a lake or a high bridge nearby. Could have sold them at gun turn in point and got a Benjamin or something.

        Serious question. A Thompson Contender pistol can be had with a 16″ barrel. Cosmetically different from the junk those two Einsteins had but not a lot of difference in function. There is even a rifle stock that can be added to a Contender. Yet because they had modified their rifles shorter they were illegal but a Contender of similar dimensions would be legal. I don’t get it, help me out here.

      • EvilSheldon

        The federal limit for rifles is 16″ from breech face to muzzle, 26″ from butt to muzzle. You can set up a contender with a stock and a short barrel, but if you don’t have the tax stamp, it’s an illegal Short-Barreled Rifle.

        That’s the law. If you’re asking for logic, sorry. Logic has left the building.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        Heh, a bolt action shotgun. I haven’t seen one of those in years.

      • Fourscore

        Top O’the line JC Higgins

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        I picked up a JC Higgins bolt action .22 awhile back. Great little gun, made by Savage I think.

        If I recall, you could buy one at Sears or Western Auto for quite a bit under $100.

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        I have a Western Auto .22 bolt action I picked up at a garage sale. Mossberg of one sort or another, pretty nice once I cleaned it up.`

    • MikeS

      But the media did their job. They planted the seed in at least half the country’s subconscious that “white-supremacists” were targeting the power grid. All it will take is for it to actually happen once, and with a little nudge from the press it’ll be such a terrible problem that increased Federal intervention is all that will save us.

      • Pat

        Why not, it worked in the ’90s. When the feds decided Vicki Weaver’s time was up, they were there because one of the 4 federal agents they had under cover in a “white supremacist” group in northern Idaho constituting about 3 dozen total members had finally succeeded, after being rebuffed multiple times, at getting Randy Weaver to saw off a shotgun barrel for him. They had targeted Weaver for the gun charge because he showed up at one meeting of the white supremacist group and told the feebs to fuck off when they tried to suss him out about becoming an informant. From that triumph of justice they went on to Waco, where our heroes burned 28 children to death because a UPS driver thought perfectly legal AR 15 lower receivers were “suspicious” and a farmer 5 miles away from the Branch Davidian compound said he heard machine gun fire at night. And back then they didn’t have 2/3 of the country egging them on.

    • rhywun

      LOL Law ‘n’ Order was tracking down some cellular-phone using perp last night with an antenna back in 1995. It looked like BS to me but who knows.

    • R.J.

      At least banginglc wasn’t locked up with that.

      • MikeS

        Maybe that’s why he never saw Steve-O again.

    • Brochettaward

      He probably thought doing time was going to be easy, but really that he’d never get caught because he was so well versed in policing methods.

      Reality is setting in, so he freaked the fuck out.

      If you are going to deny what you did and plead not guilty, don’t go shouting crazy shit that could be misconstrued as a confession in your cell.

      • EvilSheldon

        I hope that whatever he got out of cutting up a bunch of college kids was worth it. His life going forward is going to be long and miserable, or short and agonizing.

    • rhywun

      Jeebus. What a nutjob, if accurate.

      Cipollina said that Kohberger was “yelling out violent rap lyrics,” saying that he was reciting Lil Wayne lyrics such as “f*ck my enemies and foes,” and lyrics from a Bad Bunny song.

      This is a nice touch.

      Kids these days. WTF is a “Bad Bunny”?

      • The Hyperbole

        WTF is a “Bad Bunny”?

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        “It’s got fangs!!”

      • rhywun

        It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping.

      • creech

        Wasn’t he the guy who tried to assassinate President Carter?

    • Fourscore

      He’s preparing for an Insanity plea. A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

  8. The Bearded Hobbit

    OT:

    We are taking a road trip later this month and into next that will take us through Texas and along the gulf coast. Plans are still in progress but I hope that we can end up in Richmond, VA at some point.

    Shpip, if you are around, I will be in your area later this month. I have apparently lost your email address so, if you still have mine, send me a note.

    VA glibs, looking like somewhere early February.

    • R.J.

      Heaven forbid you go near Dallas…

      • DEG

        He might never leave Hard Eight.

      • MikeS
      • The Bearded Hobbit

        We are trying to go out and back on a southernly track. Very good chance that we are in your area on the return trip.

      • R.J.

        Yay!

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        We are trying to be very casual with our schedule. When traveling on vacation from work it was always reservations at hotels always made before we left home. Our trip last fall was, “we don’t know where we are going to be two days from now” and we went from visiting Hayeksplosives in Parhump to visiting my cousins in Naples, Maine.

        This upcoming trip will take us a week to get out of Texas and a slow trip along the gulf coast. After we hit Key West then we will figure out what to do next.

        The last two states of the Lower 48 that I have never been to are Georgia and South Carolina and I plan to check those off the list this trip.

      • MikeS

        I’m jealous. I hope I get a chance to do even a fraction of the traveling you guys do whenever I get to retire.

      • Rat on a train

        I’ve been to 30? I doubt I will get all the rest. On another list I’ve lived in 4 time zones.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        While we lived in New Mexico, Mom’s family was from northern Maine. Growing up there were some memorial road trips across the country. In 1963 we started north to Canada and then across to Maine. Return was a diagonal across the country.

        Mom told me that my 5th Grade teacher told her that I basically taught US Geography that year.

        So far: 46 states, 5 Providences of Canada, two states of Mexico, and the Azores.

      • Rat on a train

        I went on road trips from California to Oklahoma to visit family when I was young. The family also did a couple trips to Hawaii. The Army got me to many other states including getting all the way up to Fairbanks AK. Foreign travel has been 2 Mexican states, Japan and the Philippines. My kids have travelled more than I did at their age.

      • Fourscore

        Well, MikeS, you have been to Minnesoda so that counts, you’re on your way

      • MikeS

        You got me to make a list. Only 14 as an adult. A few more that I don’t remember as a young child.

      • pistoffnick

        Well I’ve never been to England,
        But I kind of like the Beatles

      • Penguin

        You can get a map. I got most of the east coast states, TX, AR & IL

      • Penguin

        They also have a visited countries map. Some of the countries (The Low countries and the Baltics, for example) are hard to mark.

      • rhywun

        I’ve visited almost as many countries as states, which ain’t many.

      • Penguin

        Rhywun – yeah but you lived in one of the countries. Which reminds me – I wanted to ask: Are you fluent in German?

      • rhywun

        Are you fluent in German?

        Not really, but reasonably comfortable. Much less so as the decades pass.

      • Chafed

        You know who else was fluent in German?

      • slumbrew
      • Penguin

        slumbrew, Falco was fluent in Ostdeutsch. There’d be a few German objecting to your classification of that as German.

      • Penguin

        Good song, though.

      • rhywun

        Falco is great. And with the wonders of modern education, he was able to speak both German and Austrian.

        Here is a good example with him veering back and forth and in-between.

      • Rat on a train

        Don’t forget Falco’s controversial Jeanny

      • rhywun

        What’s German for “Barbra Streisand effect”?

      • slumbrew

        I know he’s Austrian and not German, but I didn’t want to link to Nena.

        Shoulda gone with Scorpions

    • Rat on a train

      Richmond is doable. Keep us informed.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        There seem to be a lot of Glibs in that area. Looking forward to meeting you. Gourmeltz is the target.

      • Rat on a train

        Spotsyltucky, Even better.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Great goals – although I will probably be out of town most of the month. Best of luck. If you feel like checking out the Jewel of the Potomac, I can give you some recommendations for Colonial Beach – a little further east from Fredericksburg on rte 3.

      • Rat on a train

        +1 James Monroe’s birthplace

    • Shpip

      pjshpip_at_gmail

      As you probably remember, I’m next to I-75 about an hour south of I-10.

  9. MikeS

    Good -if a little depressing- story, BLC. I hope Officer Friendly stayed that way for a long career. We need so many thousands more people like him (presumably) in policing.

    • DEG

      I hope Officer Friendly stayed that way for a long career

      Yes.

    • hayeksplosives

      There are a few sympathetic folks in the “justice” system. My current husband (prior to our marriage) was in arrears for child support. His child support had been determined by his wages the year of the divorce (which was her filing) which happened to be his all-time high salary.

      Even though they were already garnishing so much from his bartender’s wages that he could not make rent reliably, after the normal amount of nasty letters were sent to him, they cancelled his driver’s license. Because that will help a man make money…

      So after a while, even though he was paying all he could, they issued a warrant for his arrest due to failure to pay (I thought we didn’t do debtors prison here…). So he shows up at the county courthouse with the letter informing him of the warrant to “turn himself in.” It was a Friday morning. The clerk told him “Ya know the judge who hears these won’t be in until Monday so you’ll have to stay in jail through the weekend. Hang on, I have to go get something.” Clerk turns his back and my husband got the hint and hightailed it out until Monday. That clerk was a rare “good” one. He had probably seen a lot of suffering dads.

      When husband went back Monday, the cops put him in the holding cell with a bunch of creeps but let him keep his pointy cowboy boots and belt, which annoyed the riffraff but kept them away from him until he could be processed and a new payment plan agreed to. Which could have been done over the phone for Pete’s sake.

      Never get divorced in Minnesota if you are a dad.

      • rhywun

        My parents divorced in 1973. Mom said she never got a dime in alimony. He was a deadbeat the way she told it, so maybe there wasn’t anything anyway. I’ll never know.

        But maybe the solution for dads is get divorced in Idaho in the early seventies.

      • Fourscore

        I got divorced in NJ. 1972. I got custody of my kids but had to pay alimony. A lot of stories in between. Still, it was the best bargain of my life

      • Fourscore

        Oops, separated in ’72, divorced in ’74, I was already living in TX

      • rhywun

        Maybe I meant “child support”. Is there a difference between that and “alimony”? Well, we didn’t get either one as far as I know.

      • hayeksplosives

        Alimony is paid to the spouse to keep him/her in the “lifestyle to which he/she is accustomed”, regardless of kids.

        Child support is child support, and can be required even if alimony is not.

        Traditionally alimony sort of made sense because if a woman devoted the “best years of her life” to the guy, not having a career of her own, if he dumped her at age 45 when he wanted the younger model, she was in a fix.

        Nowadays it’s more likely for the woman to file for divorce because she wants to “find herself” or succumb to the peer pressure of her divorced friends, and she’s more likely to have a career of her own, so alimony is less severe and less common.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, my mom had had 4 kids by then (I was three). No career.

        Either would have been nice.

      • hayeksplosives

        When I shows up on the scene, I asked for his divorce papers and pointed out to him that he had far more rights than he was exercising (visitation-wise), and more importantly, that the divorce decree said that as soon as she remarried, he got to get his half of the value of the house they’d shared.

        So he forced her to hand over his share of the house money and he used that to catch up on child support arrears. And he was never behind again.

        She hated me. 🙂

      • Chafed

        I see you met my soon to be ex-wife.

      • hayeksplosives

        Ugh. My confidences, strafed.

        After becoming aware of how very biased in an anti-men kind of way that Minnesota family law was, I did more digging and then found a female MN state legislature candidate (Pam Wolfe) who had husband’s and father’s rights as a centerpiece of her campaign.

        At some rally during her campaign, the designated host and intro guy was delayed, so her campaign frantically asked me to step in, which I did because I knew her agenda and intent. She won that year.

      • Brochettaward

        Not to get too personal if you don’t want to share, Chafed, but is it really over between you and your wife?

      • Chafed

        Yes it is. We are still working out terms. There’s nothing like having to buy half my law firm from her to bring the point home. You might think buying half the house would have done it but I can be a slow learner.

      • Pat

        Sorry to hear that Chafed.

      • R.J.

        It’s a terrible ordeal. When you are done I hope you can enjoy the freedom.

      • Fourscore

        Child support is supposed be for the kids’ maintenance but is always administered by the parent. Alimony is more like punishment and some states don’t have alimony.

  10. DEG

    This is one fucked up story.

    • Chafed

      Oy.

      • hayeksplosives

        Damar’s uncle came out to say he’s doing better now, and the flipping thing is a good sign.

        After/during my husband’s aortic valve replacement, they inserted four tubes right below the rib cage and up into his chest cavity. In the ensuing day, they drained off a liter of fluid from around his lungs. They left the tubes in for a few more days, then tried to sedate him to remove the tubes because his heart and lungs were doing great. Unfortunately by that time ICU psychosis had set in so even the sedative didn’t “take” so his hands and feet were tied to the bed.

        The attending physician for the drainage Uber removal was a petite Indian woman who’d been raised Catholic, so she led the other attending personnel in the Lords Prayer, 23rd Psalm, and some Hail Marys to compensate for the fact that his adrenaline fought the anesthetic. (His psychosis made him think he was in hell and all of us were demons.)

        He recovered so well that his heart surgeon told me that the only reason he was still in the ICU was that he had ICU psychosis. Ironic.

        Chafed, (((you))) might appreciate the humor: when they phoned me the morning of surgery (I couldn’t be in a waiting room because Covid), I asked the surgeon if they’d gone with a mechanical valve or a pig valve. He said they used a bovine valve, to which I replied, “Ah, keeping it kosher for Passover. Nice.” (It was April 2021.)

        He was silent for 2 seconds and burst out laughing.

      • Chafed

        Kudos HS. Kudos. That was very quick.

  11. Shpip

    When I was in college, I joined the local county dart association (for those of you not in the know, darters are like league bowlers, only harder drinking and with less fashion sense). After I met The Bosslady, I started dragging her to various league matches or local tournaments. I was a regular at the dive bar across the street from Big College campus so she joined me as an 18-year old. At first, she didn’t drink, but that devolved into her having one or two while I was throwing, until she was a regular recognized and accepted by all. She’d even hang out and chat with the owner, a crusty character who came from a locally-famous family (his dad was physician to the local college sports teams, and his uncle was a Pulitzer-winning novelist).

    Finally, the big day came where she could have her first “legal” drink. Bosslady sidles up to the bar, orders a pitcher of domestic swill, and mentions that it’s her birthday. The barmaid asks how old she is, and she exclaims “Twenty-one!”

    The bar owner’s head slowly tracks around like the turret of a Tiger tank, fixes her with his gaze, then he drops his head and slowly shakes it as he realizes that she’s been drinking in his bar for two and a half years.

    That pitcher was on the house.

    • rhywun

      LOL.

      We had a joint like that just off-campus. I was a “good kid” but hell even I knew that 21 was bullshit.

    • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

      Yeah, I lived up the street from a little sandwich shop/minimart place in college, and got to know most of the guys who worked there. Never got carded, so when I ran into a bunch of them on the night of my 21st at Bulls Tavern, they were not too happy with me.

      Also, I used to drag Frau Zwak around to all my pool tournaments, hitting every dive bar in Sacramento. She was a drinker already, this didn’t help.

  12. rhywun

    OT… I haven’t read the article – I just wanted to note that every picture of this guy I’ve seen, he looks like a cartoon character. Dude is painted up within an inch of his life.

    • Fourscore

      It really is the best of times

      A 30 year old makes his own business, steals 3-5 Billion, no idea of where the money went

      Santos gets elected to a national office, with a bunch of easily caught lies

      President Plagiarizer/Serial Liar has not idea where or who he is but wants to run for re-election

      Try writing fiction based on real life

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        I think that Animal is working on it. . .

      • juris imprudent

        Paging SugarFree, SugarFree to the white courtesy phone.

      • Brochettaward

        Local congressional races are barely worth the time of serious media outlets. It’s not sexy enough to vet the candidates.

        The idiots looking to prosecute Santos would be going down a very slippery slope. They aren’t all on the left, either. Politicians – all of them or at least 99% – lie while campaigning. We could make an endless list of the nonsense claimed by very high profile politicians from both parties that isn’t true. A lot of related to let’s say biographical accounts of their life.

      • rhywun

        Santos is really no worse than the rest. The difference is that the Dems are desperate to flip that seat back and the media are happy to assist.

      • R.J.

        If you asked him Santos would probably say he lied about being a Republican anyway. No doubt he will vote straight “D.” Time will tell.

      • rhywun

        That’s the exception to my don’t-give-a-shit rule. If he’s lying about these other hundred things, maybe he’s lying about shit that matters, too.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m pretty sure he is lying about just about everything.

        But again…how many of these guys running for office aren’t? Few have any discernable “principles.” Even a guy like Bernie who seems to be somewhat principled, albeit stupid, will lie and change course to gain popularity.

      • R.J.

        I wouldn’t even give odds for him voting Republican. It’s almost a guarantee he will side with Democrats. His constant lying will peak with his voting record going hard left. But then what? He got elected, he can do what he wants!

      • Zwak, who has his own double cross to bear.

        This was my thinking on it. Dems didn’t care to let anyone know the lies as they could easily push his buttons, or they put him in there in case their guy lost.

      • Mojeaux

        Fiction has to make sense. (Twain) (I think)

  13. DrOtto

    It’s quite possible cellmate Steve was a plant to get you to cop to lying to the police. Almost as bad as talking to the police is talking to a cellmate you don’t know. They get favors for diming on other jailbirds.

  14. slumbrew

    I got to bunk with Nathan, which I’m not sure was a blessing because he kept me up all night.

    No jugement.

    • Brochettaward

      A night in jail just changes a man.

      • Not Adahn

        “You did Ravel. You changed the nature of a man.”

    • hayeksplosives

      Thanks for sharing.

      Americans are willing to be told that their country has problems. They do not like being told, and for good reason because it’s not true, that their country is unsalvageable, that the system needs throwing out in toto, that nothing at all is good or ever will be again. That everything v has gotten constantly worse for decades.

      Conservatives need to watch this growing tendency because if they fall prey to it, it will devour them.

      It’s also terrible marketing. The United States already has one party that tends in that direction; it does not need two.

      As an immigrant, who believes all the stuff that immigrants are supposedly to believe about America, I can tell you I find it unbelievably off-putting to hear that my adopted country is a disaster. I don’t want to hear that from the Left, and I don’t want to hear that from the right. Problems? Yes. Disaster? No.

      I’ve thought this for years. A big part of the reason we have naturalized citizens who remain more loyal to their home countries and thus spy for China or kill for Mohammed is that we teach them NOT to hop into the melting pot because it stinks, so become loyal to something else.

  15. LCDR_Fish

    For anyone looking for a new show to watch, the older anime “Monster” (by Naoki Urasawa) is streaming on netflix. It’s a pretty long show (70+ eps) – but really worth the watch. An interesting mix of tropes – some character design exaggerations similar to Herge, a European travelogue before/during the breakup of the iron curtain with a ton of interesting characters. Extremely highly recommended. Slowly working through the manga myself after I picked up the DVDs a few years ago.

    • Brochettaward

      I tried watching that when I was younger and I think it was aired on some network, maybe Adult Swim. Can’t recall. I found it…dull. It is a unique subject matter for an anime/manga, but I found the “monster” to be not so monstrous from my limited viewing experiences. And in a show like that, if I can’t love/hate the antagonist, it’s not going to pull me in.

      I do recall, if I’m not mistaken, that the villain goes tranny at some point? Could be off.

      • Brochettaward

        Berserk was the only manga I still followed into adulthood, and then the creator died. Followed that shit for over half my life and the guy dies suddenly with the story like 70% complete. If anyone likes dark fantasy, that is the shit.

        I have downloaded the new chapters released with a friend of his directing things. Haven’t had the heart to read any of it.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Manga is on my list to pick up. I’ve got the original series and the movie adaptations on blu-ray.

      • Brochettaward

        It is my favorite piece of fiction period in any format. If you get a chance to go in blind, highly recommended because how things unravel will fuck with you (I was, admittedly, a child when I first started it). Only real issue I’d say is the first three volumes of the manga give a way a little too much. I’d personally skip to the start of the golden age arc if I were picking up the manga for the first time and go back to read the first three volumes after. Maybe read the first chapter to get a glimpse of what is to come in that world as it doesn’t spoil anything.

        I started with the 90’s anime which, while flawed, was as faithful as they could be in the time they had. Not the best animation, but good writing and epic music from one of the best composers Japan has.

        So, I’d go:
        1st chapter
        Final chapter of volume 3
        Read through the end of the Golden Age arc
        Go back and re-read the first 3 volumes before diving into what is to come.

      • Brochettaward

        Though I am torn on this. The first three volumes are important for the main character, but they just kind of…reveal a little too much about how things become the way they are compared to that 90’s anime which gave you a bit of both. A little insight into where the character was going in his fallen state, but don’t reveal certain plot points that make it a little more predictable how it happened.

      • Brochettaward

        I think I recall an episode where they flirted with the monster killing a child, but don’t think they did it.

        It’s a long series and I’ve always heard it highly recommended, but just couldn’t get into it. I’m rambling like Commodius Spittoon lately.

      • LCDR_Fish

        It is pretty slow. Not a full tranny thing – he has a twin sister and there’s a little ambiguity about things a couple times (trying to shift blame or some confusion with which kid it is in some of the flashbacks).

        You’re right in that the full “monster” is a little underwhelming to our modern sensibilities – not anything supernatural – but at the same time fits pretty well into the “banality of evil” concept – particularly with the various neo-nazi and communist organizations trying to manipulate the manipulator, etc. And of course, the hero not being able to convince the authorities what’s actually going on – with all the swirling conspiracies. Definitely a slow burn, but a lot of the side characters who get woven in are pretty interesting – including a Czech journalist/vigilante and others.

      • Brochettaward

        I am pretty desensitized to violence, and most manga/anime has more cartoonish depictions of it. So, yea, with the hype I was expecting an antagonist who was a straight sociopath with no limits.

        I have time on my hands lately, so maybe I’ll go back and give it a go.

      • CPRM

        You’ve been posting a lot out of character lately. I hope you are all right. You a running the risk of people not hating you. A Bold strategy Cotton.

  16. Penguin

    Kim Iversen over at The Hill gives a good discussion of the Twitter Files. Maybe she can teach Fruit Sush a little about freedom.

  17. Chafed

    That was a fun two parter BLC. I’m glad you came out of it unscathed.

  18. Pat

    About an hour or so after arriving, another kid our age arrived. He was pissed. He sat with us and told us his story. He was asleep in his fourth-floor dorm room when the police came knocking. They asked him if his name was Steve. It was. They asked if people called him Steve-O. He asked why. They asked if he’d been drinking. He had. They breathalyzed him and took him to jail.

    That plot twist was sitcom worthy.

    • CPRM

      When I lived in the dorms there were these guys that came up with a plan so dumb it was super-genius. One week they bought a big honking stereo. Then, every week after that they brought in a keg in that stereo box. Not sure if the dorm monitors were that dumb or if they just appreciated the ingenuity.

      • DrOtto

        The old Coors party balls (5 gallons) fit nicely into a laundry basket to sneak into our dorms.

  19. hayeksplosives

    OT: Jeremy Renner seems to be doing better, and is at least cheerful (or drugged) to post selfies.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11596231/Reno-mayor-Actor-Renner-helping-stranded-car-hurt.html#comments

    I have to admit that the first thing I thought when I read about his Snowcat accident was “And Nigel has run himself over.”

    I feel less bad about that thought now that it looks like he’ll pull through, but he’s got serious rehab ahead.

    • Pat

      By default I assume anyone in Hollywood is a shithead, but it sounds like he was being a good samaritan, which makes it all the worse. I know instincts and all, but bruh, you’ve got more money than God, if the plow starts rolling, let it go.

      • Brochettaward

        A runaway plow is also dangerous to others so I can see why you’d react that way.

      • Brochettaward

        Rather, why he would

      • hayeksplosives

        Yeah, not of advanced planning, and there is talk that the plow malfunctioned and moved out of Park.

        Lucky for him that his neighbor was a doc and applied a tourniquet to keep him from bleeding to death while they awaited the air lift chopper.

        Reno mayor heaped praise on the public and private charity he does for the Reno area.

      • Pat

        Fair enough. Since no one else was hurt I just assumed no one was in the path, but who’s to say.

      • hayeksplosives

        Ooh, how edgy and original!! 🙄

        My only beef with Renner is that he did a gun control ad several years ago. He wasn’t a judgmental dick about it, and I think he naively believed new gun laws could prevent homicides.

      • Brochettaward

        Wasn’t that when they had like all the Marvel people doing anti-gun ads together?

        Regardless, when in Hollywood and asked to do a piece of left wing propaganda, especially a guy like Renner who had previous strikes against him int he eyes of the left, you are probably better off just going along regardless of what you think. Few actors can really thrive or survive straying from the prog hive mind.

      • Pat

        I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen him in anything, but I figure the capeshit money must be big.

      • Trigger Hippie

        The Town is worth watching. He and Ben Affleck played bank robbers in the Boston area. Not great, not bad.

      • Trigger Hippie

        …Think of the movie Heat then add Irish mobsters and Fenway Park.

        Goodnight.

      • Chafed

        In fairness to him, Marvel is wokifying their entire franchise.

  20. Sean

    Wakey, wakey Glibs.

    • UnCivilServant

      I’ve been awake, I was making breakfast and lunch to take to the office.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Sean, U, and Stinky!

      Today is Day Two of Hell Month at work. Got the last pay at the old pay rates submitted, but just when I thought it was ready for final approval, our payroll manager (outside vendor) sent me the list of some deductions that I had sent her last week, and she added notes pointing out the ones that were different from 2022. Yes, they’re different. That’s why you have to change them. Hoping to arrive at the office and find everything good to go./wishful thinking

      • UnCivilServant

        I love conversations like that. (/sarc)

      • robodruid

        Good Morning and Good Luck.

      • UnCivilServant

        How’s everything down your way?

      • robodruid

        I have been juggling 5 different contracts at work, about to have a fight with contractor about work for another base. Waiting on EPA to make a final rule on PFAS MC:L’s so we can figure out how to clean up this stuff.

        WIfe is deciding does she want to continue doing chickens, last year was really tough. I say yes. I think our mini-jersey #1 is pregnant, sheep are ok. Weather is ok.

        I am ok?

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m glad the animals are okay. I hope you decide that you’re doing alright as well.

        🐓🐄🐑🐐

      • robodruid

        Its not what i expected out of life.
        It is interesting.

      • Gender Traitor

        Thanks, and good morning, ‘bodru!

      • Sean

        🙂

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Ugh, unfixable neurological issues from a stroke. I’m not sure I can blame him really.
      RIP.

    • UnCivilServant

      How about – abolish the office of mayor and cut taxes.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Ooh, $121K? I’ll take the job. Wait, New Jersey? Nevermind…

      • Grosspatzer

        Not just NJ, Wayne. That town is under water every few years when it rains heavily. No thanks.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      All those dumbfuck laws do is encourage people to hold their phones lower and out of sight so they have to displace their attention for longer. They’ll get plenty of revenue from it though which is really what it’s all about.

    • UnCivilServant

      It’s not the government’s place to regulate health (or healthcare) so that argument should not be applicable to taxes.

    • Rat on a train

      Not every Sugar Tax is bad.

  21. UnCivilServant

    Well, I made it to the office before the security guards. Woo…

    Of course that means the door is locked. Awww…

    But I’m an IT guy – 24/7 Access Baby!

    • Grosspatzer

      Mornin’, U.

      But I’m an IT guy – 24/7 Access Baby!

      That usually works. Then there was that Saturday morning in December 2000 when I had to go into my office on the 103rd floor of WTC1 to perform some DB maintenance. Our annual Christmas party had taken place the night before at Windows on the World, and all the offices were locked as a result of the debauchery which had apparently taken place at the previous year’s bash; when I arrived on Saturday my office was still locked. So I wound up being escorted to the security HQ in the sub-basement four levels below the lobby where I was cleared to enter the office. Pretty sure that is now the location of the 9/11 museum.

      • UnCivilServant

        I didn’t have to endure anything so dramatic, I just had to deal with the ‘portal’ – A booth with interior and exterior doors that you card through one person at a time. I hate the thing because at my first office it kept accusing me of being more than one person, especially of I had somewthing with me, say a lunch, that ran into one of the sensors and made it send you back out to try again.

      • Rat on a train

        The Hoover building had those booths. They were a pain when you had a large group visiting.

      • UnCivilServant

        Fortunately, we only have to deal with them after hours. Once the security guards start their shift at 6:30, the front doors are unlocked.

      • Rat on a train

        I believe they were only at the visitor center. I fortunately never worked there.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Legit cool story! What happened in the next nine months?

        I drank at the Windows bar once.

      • Grosspatzer

        What happened in the next nine months?

        Well…

        Business was going downhill. On Sept. 10, we laid off 30 employees who presumably drank away their sorrows that night, not knowing how fortunate they were.

  22. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “In a hilarious cap to today’s chaos surrounding the GOP House Speaker vote, anti-McCarthy Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida wrote to the Architect of the Capitol to ask how long McCarthy – who prematurely moved in to the Speaker’s office – would be able to occupy the room “before he is considered a squatter.””
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bullst-mccarthy-bid-house-house-speaker-devolves-chaos

    Gaetz does strike me as a bit of a fratboy douchebag but that’s pretty funny.

    • UnCivilServant

      I thought the capital was finished over a century ago, why did they dig up a dead guy to ask him about occupancy?

      Oh wait, architect of the capitol is one of those wasteful ceremonial roles that’s paid far too much for far too little. Unless it’s a fancy title for a building manager, but I’d wager they’re still overpaid.

    • rhywun

      Unprecedented! Unseemly!

      I’m lovin’ it.

    • Rat on a train

      So if he stays in it long enough it’s his? Sort of like how buffalo man could have become speaker.

  23. DEG

    Mornin’ all.

    Up for the gym.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, DEG (and rhy!) Pump it up!

      Went to my first water aerobics class of the year yesterday. My, it was suddenly kinda crowded in that pool! Hoping it will thin back out a bit by February. 😄

      • rhywun

        Mornin’. I’m not pumping anything at the moment.

      • Sean

        /squints

  24. Scruffy Nerfherder

    The reference was made above that the seed of “white supremacists did this” was planted in regards to the power station story with no proof whatsoever. That was the narrative, it was created, it was deployed, it was a lie, and it worked.

    In the same vein, this article is worth reading. We’re waging a propaganda war and if we want to win, we’re going to have to take risks. Nobody who fights the narrative is going to be welcomed as a hero.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/tobyrogers/p/damar-hamlin

    “ When a big event like this happens — you have anywhere from 5 to 45 minutes to shape the narrative. That’s it. A narrative is like wet concrete — it’s really important to have structures in place to guide it and you only have a short window of time to shape it before it hardens. Once the narrative is set, it’s rock solid, new facts will bounce off of it. Pharma understands this which is why they flooded the zone with the “commotio cordis” lie as quickly as possible and tried to keep us out of the conversation.
    Meanwhile many people on our team were twiddling their thumbs waiting for more evidence. But here’s the thing — no more evidence is coming. The hospital will never release info that implicates the vaccine and if he dies, there will never be a proper autopsy. So there is no later reckoning — you either take the info that you have right now and go with it — before the narrative is set — or Pharma wins the narrative war and the teachable moment disappears. ”

    From here on out, the vax killed everyone that has dropped dead as far as I’m concerned. They use the barrage technique because it works. Playing by the rules will accomplish nothing. I want to win and the only way to really win this is to move the public opinion needle until the government thinks it’s not worth it any more and turns on their collaborators.

    It’s not an exaggeration to say that lives depend on winning and that’s a little more important than always being right.

    • Grosspatzer

      I thought the King’s men had immunity. Or does that not apply to the King’s women?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Sociopaths gonna sociopath

  25. Grosspatzer

    Mornin’,reprobates.

    Tip o’ the hat to banginglc1. Brought back memories of days gone by, some pleasant (frat shenanigans), some not so much (my encounters with the law involved las drogas).

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, ‘patzie!

      My closest shave with law enforcement came during my freshman year in college. I’d caught a ride to Texas for spring break via the campus “Ride Board,” where one solicited rides or riders for road trips, to visit my best friend from high school who’d moved there shortly after graduation. On the way, late in the evening, my driver got pulled over somewhere in Arkansas. Unbeknownst to me, said driver had a bag of weed in his car. Deputy Buford then decided he needed to search my backpack. In a side pocket, he found a folded paper towel. “Feels like pills in here,” he declared. I knew it wasn’t, but couldn’t think what it could be. Turned out to be orange seeds. “Oh!” I exclaimed/explained, “Those are from a botany class.”

      As I recall, Buford followed us into the nearest town, where my driver may have had to pay a ticket, and we were back on our way.