A Girl Among Boys

by | Mar 16, 2023 | Gender, Sports | 149 comments

We all know about males identifying as female and then competing against females in athletic events. Lia Thomas is the most well-known example; Lia switched from the men’s swim team to the women’s at the University of Pennsylvania. Lia ranked 65th in the nation in the 500 freestyle while swimming as a male, but was an NCAA champion in that event when swimming as a female, even beating the reigning Olympic women’s silver medalist. There is also a growing number of biologically male high school athletes who are going out for girls’ teams, and although many are not winning events or setting records, they still displace biological females on those teams and could keep biological high school girls from getting college scholarships.

But you don’t have to be transgender to be on a team of the opposite sex. Many states allow girls to try out for boys’ teams, especially if there is not a sanctioned girls’ team for their given sport. Iowa is one such state, which leads us to the subject of this story.

Reanah Utterback loves wrestling. As a freshman at Sigourney High School in Iowa, she wrestled on the 2021-22 Sigourney-Keota boys’ team since the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union (IGHSAU) didn’t recognize wrestling as a sanctioned varsity sport. She had a 38-5 record in the 106-pound weight class, pinning 14 of her male opponents, and qualifying for the boys Class 1A (small schools) state tournament. She is one of only six girls to qualify for the boys’ state tournament in wrestling since girls were allowed to compete against boys.

Her path to the state tournament included a second-place finish in her sectional tournament, losing 4-0 to Dalton Ervin of Moravia in the final. This allowed her to advance to the district tournament, which she won by avenging her loss to Dalton with a 4-2 overtime victory in the district final. Sadly, she lost twice in the state tournament, getting pinned in her last match, which was the only time she was pinned the entire season.

Even though girls wrestling was not a sanctioned sport, the Iowa Wrestling Coaches and Officials Association (IWCOA) sponsored a girls’ wrestling tournament for the 2021-22 season. Reanah also competed there, winning the 110-pound weight class with five straight victories, all by pin, with four pins occurring in the first period and three within the first minute.

Reanah wins the 110-pound class at the 2022 IWCOA girls’ tournament.

 

In March 2022, Reanah won the 16U 112-pound class at the USA Wrestling Girls Folkstyle Nationals, winning all four matches, three by pin. In May 2022, Reanah placed 7th at the USMC Women’s National U15 Wrestling Tournament in the 50-kg weight class. In October 2022, she won the 106-pound weight class at the Brian Keck Preseason Nationals Wrestling Tournament for high school girls, winning all four matches, three by pin. She is also a member of the AAU and USA Wrestling national girls’ teams.

For the 2022-23 season, the IGHSAU officially sanctioned wrestling as a girls’ sport. But because Sigourney-Keota did not have a girls’ team, Reanah (now a sophomore) was allowed to again join the Sigourney-Keota boys’ team. Her goal: become only the second girl to win a medal – placing 8th or higher — at the boys’ state wrestling tournament. So far the only girl to medal in the boys’ tournament is Megan Black of Cedar Falls, placing 8th in 2012, also in the 106-pound weight class.

Reanah won by forfeit a number of times both this season and last, and I asked Cody Goodwin, who covers wrestling for the Des Moines Register, if that was because boys were forfeiting so they wouldn’t have to wrestle a girl. He didn’t think that was the case, and it was more likely that small schools have a hard time filling out all 14 weight classes every meet. On the other hand, reportedly Megan Black won a match by forfeit in the 2012 state tournament because the boy did not want to wrestle against her.

In the 2022-23 regular season Reanah compiled a 35-8 record with 19 pins, and was not pinned herself. Reanah qualified for the 2023 boys’ state tournament again, becoming only the third girl to do so twice. Reanah was seeded 8th, thereby receiving a bye in the first round. She won her next match 6-4 over the #9 seed to reach the quarterfinals. She then lost to the #1 seed (and eventual champion) by a 10-0 score, which put her in the consolation bracket. There Reanah beat the #12 seed 7-2, but in the next round lost a close 1-0 match to the #4 seed. Finally, she lost 4-0 to the #2 seed in the 7th-place match. Thus Reanah finished in 8th place, equaling Megan Black’s result in 2012. Since Reanah is only a sophomore, she will have two more chances to qualify for the boys’ tournament after this season, and perhaps improve on her 8th-place finish.

Reanah’s own words, as shown on her trackwrestling.com web page, provide the best description of her mindset:

Wrestling is my life. With dedication and determination the desire for greatness is achievable.

About The Author

whiz

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Whiz is a recently retired college professor who now has time for excursions like this one.

149 Comments

  1. The Other Kevin

    Now THAT is brave and stunning. Thanks for sharing.

    • whiz

      Glad to do it! I liked the story.

  2. Lackadaisical

    I thought this was going to be about MLW.

    I am okay with the girls on boys team rules the way they have it, so long as the same applies for boys who want to play volleyball, etc.

    Gotta be equal.

    • rhywun

      Yeah, either boys have to allowed on girls’ teams as-is, or they have to come up with a reason why not.

    • Gender Traitor

      That seems reasonable. I think a fair number of team sports could certainly be co-ed, and not just at the intramural level. Way back in my “past life” with the Rev. GT when he was a college dorm advisor, the school had a “people’s lacrosse” team. Are there any officially recognized co-ed sports at the HS or college level?

  3. Gender Traitor

    Good for her! Refreshing to see she’s had so few prospective opponents forfeits. It may help that, at least in my limited experience, wearing a sports bra is rather like having no tatas at all.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      She also barely weighs 100 pounds.

  4. PieInTheSky

    It may get harder as age increases but good luck. She’s tough anyway.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Weight too. Unless I am misreading, she stays at 106 when competing against boys.

      • whiz

        That’s correct.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Still impressive. Are there any examples of girls doing well competing in higher weight classes?

      • whiz

        None that I know of.

  5. WTF
  6. Lackadaisical

    “Her path to the state tournament included a second-place finish in her sectional tournament, losing 4-0 to Dalton Ervin of Moravia in the final”

    Bringing in international talent to take her out, huh?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      My first thought as well

      • whiz

        Heh, it’s not Moravia (the country), it’s Iowa.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        No! I did not know that🙄

  7. The Other Kevin

    This is a refreshing change from the trans sports stories we see every day. Through Mrs. TOK, and my sled hockey, I’ve met a lot of women athletes. In general they aren’t as strong or fast as male athletes. But they do have my respect and admiration, and they are all badasses. It kills me to see their accomplishments erased by bullshit social signaling.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    19 pins, and was not pinned herself.

    Girls are squirmy.

  9. Grumbletarian

    On the other hand, reportedly Megan Black won a match by forfeit in the 2012 state tournament because the boy did not want to wrestle against her.

    Did the boy not want to risk losing to a girl, or did his girlfriend threaten him if he agreed to the match?

    • Lackadaisical

      Religious, perhaps.

    • PieInTheSky

      plot twist: Megan was his girlfriend

    • Ownbestenemy

      Who knows. I know when my son was going to do a karate tourney he didn’t want to spar with a girl. Not because he was going to lose, or possibly have to hit a girl…he was at that akward age where feelings and such are stirring.

    • RBS

      From my own experience it’s difficult to get in the right mindset to actually wrestle a girl, since it kind of does against a lot of what boys are taught growing up. I still wrestled the one girl and broke her collar bone (not intentional). I am kind of surprised Iowa, of all places, does not have separate girls wrestling. It’s such a great wrestling state with tons of history.

      • Not Adahn

        When I took judo in college, everyone wrestled everyone. Women were annoying because they either did not recognize or did not accept when they were beaten, resulting in ever-more-extreme degrees of immobilization be used.

      • whiz

        Iowa as a state does have separate girls wrestling as of last year, but Reanah’s high school didn’t, so she joined the boys team again.

  10. Tundra

    What a wonderful story, whiz!! Thanks for sharing it.

    It is common for girls to skate with the boys until it gets dangerous. It definitely makes them better.

    On the other hand, reportedly Megan Black won a match by forfeit in the 2012 state tournament because the boy did not want to wrestle against her.

    In fairness to the lad, embarrassing boners are a thing at that age!

    • Ownbestenemy

      Ah…we said the same thing! Yes…even in hockey with all that gear, we were coed up to about 13 and well…there were some figure skater crossovers that were pretty damn it!

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Heh, there was a cute, athletic girl that joined the wrestling team. Israeli chick if I recall. There was no one in my weight class (140 something) so we often paired up during practice even though she must have weighed around 110 lbs.

      It sure didn’t improve my wrestling wins at matches by not having a similar opponent to practice with, but I never had a complaint.

    • pistoffnick

      …embarrassing boners are a thing at that age!

      Wrestling singlets hide nothing!

  11. Michael Malaise

    Hmm… Savages? How long until that gets cancelled?

    Nice story!

    • Trigger Hippie

      Pay the family of the Macho Man for likeness rights and they’ll be all set.

      • Michael Malaise

        Singlets need to be hot pink and neon yellow with fringe, then.

      • Trigger Hippie

        You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  12. PieInTheSky

    I don’t think I was close to that low weight at any point in highschool… Those some skinny dudes at 110.

    • robc

      When I was in HS, there was still a 98 lb category. I could have wrestled my freshman year, as I was the only guy in the school under that. Even if I had entirely sucked, I would have won about 1/2 my matches by forfeit, as other schools had the same problem filling that weight class, which is why it went away.

    • rhywun

      I was. I didn’t start to balloon up until my early 30s.

      • PieInTheSky

        I started getting fast the moment I hit puberty. Bad time for it. It affected me quite negatively.

      • R.J.

        I was a 180 pound gorilla linebacker by age 14. Had its ups and downs, mostly downs.

      • Rat on a train

        I exceeded minimum weight by 10 pounds when I enlisted in the Army.

    • whiz

      I was 6’2″, 120 lbs. as a freshman, but I couldn’t wrestle worth a darn.

      • UnCivilServant

        sounds like you were skin and bones.

      • robc

        I was 6′ 125 lbs when I graduated high school, and I was skin and bones. Heck, I was 6′ 145 lbs when I graduated College and ditto.

        6’2″ 120 would be even worse.

      • robc

        I have been as high as 220#. 175-185 is my prime range. I am 190 right now.

      • UnCivilServant

        Out of curiousity, I looked up the weight of a skeleton. I was disappointed to find it is only about 20-30 lbs. But then again, the water making up 70% of the human is where all the weight is.

      • whiz

        Pretty much skin and bones. I was 6’5″ 150 as a senior, going up to 6’6″ 185 as an adult. Now I’m 6’5″ 195 🙁

      • Fourscore

        I was 6’5″ at 1 time, now I’m about 6’2″ or 6’2 1/2″. After 50 expect to shrink an inch every 10 years. I’ve put on a few lbs around the belly, now about 207-8, the last 2 years have not been kind to me. Today is the 2nd anniversary of my downfall.

      • CatchTheCarp

        I wrestled on the JV freshman team in HS in the 112 LB weight class. I was a late bloomer, small with no muscle. It’s been long time but I don’t remember many boys that weighed less than 120 by the time they were juniors and seniors. That would be tough mentally having to face a female opponent in a HS wrestling match, win or lose the hazing would be brutal.

  13. robc

    When I was in HS, we didnt have a girls soccer team, so we had one girl on our team.

    A handful of teams we played against also had a girl.

    Even in the 80s, there were 1 or 2 girl wrestlers in KY.

    • PieInTheSky

      Was there a difference in competitiveness between freshman and senior years? Because as I said above I assume as the age grows it may get more difficult for the girls. Also I think weight classes are a bad idea for a highschool sport if it leads to growing teenagers underfeeding to make the weight class.

      • Tundra

        A tale as old as time. I remember laughing at my wrestling buddies as they would eat only oranges or some other stupid diet to make weight.

        At that age I could eat 10K calories and not crack 140.

      • Nephilium

        I miss my teenage metabolism, when I weighed ~120 regardless of how much I consumed.

      • R.J.

        Not so much. It keeps things competitive. You couldn’t put a 104 pound human up against a 160 pound human and expect it to be sporting.

      • Ownbestenemy

        My son when he did wrestling was mistakenly (I don’t know how it happened) was put in a higher weight class and was whomped. He was 160 and the kid he went up against was 190 I think? Maybe they combined weight classes for that tourney due to low turnout but that kid tossed him around like a ragdoll.

      • Michael Malaise

        This happened recently at a meet I attended. Apparently, if there is no one in your direct weight class, you can choose to wrestle up if you’d like, so we (my daughter’s school) had a 180 lb. kid wrestle a 210 lb. kid. He lost but got some experience.

      • robc

        I think so. She was a very good player on our JV team, at Varsity level, she was mediocre.

        But it is hard to judge, as the same could be said about me.

      • Drake

        I discouraged my son from wrestling for that reason. Cutting weight as a teenager impacts growth. He played football, baseball, and lacrosse – where he could maintain a healthy weight.

        He does MMA training now and claims all the guys in the really low weight classes are tough little dudes who spent their teens dieting for wrestling.

  14. R.J.

    Agree with all above. Finding someone to wrestle in that category would be hard.

    OT: @Tres – do you have another computer where you can make a boot USB record and restart it? Can you even get it to turn off and on, to where you can get to BIOS?

  15. UnCivilServant

    OT – what Apple Genius decided that if you plug an iPhone into a computer, it won’t even charge the battery unless you unlock the phone and decide whether to trust that machine? You don’t need to trust it with information to draw USB power.

    • Tundra

      The same one whoo created the sustainable charging feature.

    • Rat on a train

      It could be dirty, fossil power.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I have the paper, shoot me an address and I can mail it to you.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Yes Sir

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ll get that out to you this evening after work.

    • rhywun

      They used to include a wall-outlet converter in the package. I might even have one in a box somewhere.

      • UnCivilServant

        The wall outlet in my work cube is difficult to reach, and the charger cord is something like 18 inches.

        Not to mention the contention with the computer for the outlet…

    • Gustave Lytton

      Not just a computer. After some system updates a while back, it does the same for the speaker dock/charger.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    A tale as old as time. I remember laughing at my wrestling buddies as they would eat only oranges or some other stupid diet to make weight.

    And then they’d go gorge themselves after weigh-in.

    The wrestling coach at my high school hated me because I wouldn’t join the team. Haha, fuck that. And him.

    • Trigger Hippie

      I hated the days of trying to make weight for a boxing match. A week or two of eating little more than canned tuna, crackers and skinless chicken before a fight honestly left me feeling a little weaker than I normally would. Nowadays I would generally discourage kids from depriving themselves of healthy, well balanced meals in order to stay in a weight class and would hope parents would push back against any coach who pressured their children into doing that, especially when the kid has no existing weight issues.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Starts with the coach, but also with peers and their parents (die hard dads trying to live their lives through their sons).

      • Trigger Hippie

        Yep. My dad was my boxing coach and he very much pressured me into making weight. Had to, the fight was made weeks in advance and I wouldn’t want to disappoint dad and my teammates, now would I? In retrospect, half starving yourself for weeks, running around with a trash bag as a shirt under your hoody for miles and miles in the middle of Summer and popping Ex-Lax a few hours before a fight if I was a pound or two too heavy probably wasn’t the healthiest things for me during puberty.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Life support for Tinkerbell

    The Fed says it created the BTLP to provide “an additional source of liquidity against high-quality securities, eliminating an institution’s need to quickly sell securities in times of stress.”

    There are three essential parts of this new program.

    The first are the loans it provides to banks.

    Financial institutions will be able to borrow cash from their Federal Reserve Bank for up to one year using bonds, mortgage-backed securities and other types of debt as collateral. That means if a bank needs to quickly shore up cash to meet the pace of customer withdrawals, it will be able to.

    The second part of the program is valuing bank’s Treasuries and other securities at “par.”

    The Fed’s rate hikes have undermined the value of the Treasury bonds that banks rely on as a critical source of capital (you can read more about that here). US banks are currently sitting on about $620 billion in unrealized losses in bonds, according to the FDIC — if any of them need access to a lot of cash quickly, they’d have to sell them at a loss – perhaps a substantial loss, like SVB did last week.

    The BTLP aims to fix this problem by valuing the bonds used as loan collateral at “par.” If a bank brings in a bond they purchased for $1,000 that’s only worth $600 now, they’ll still get $1,000 in cash.

    The third part of the program is meant to instill confidence in the US banking system. These loans will be backed by $25 billion from the US Treasury. If a bank can’t pay back its loan, the government will.

    The BTLP is partially the brainchild of Douglas Diamond and Philip Dybvig, who won the Nobel Prize last year (alongside former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke) for their work on bank runs and how to prevent them. They found that if customers know that their bank deposits are insured, a bank run is very unlikely.

    As long as we keep stuffing IOUs in the cookie jar, the audience will applaud.

    • The Other Kevin

      There is nothing that can’t be fixed by printing more money and throwing it at the problem.

    • Rat on a train

      NINJA for banks

    • Scruffyy Nerfherder

      Eh, we’re well past the point of pretending that it’s a fair or just system. Right now, the only real consideration for the Fed is outlasting the ECB. Liquidate the WEF.

      It will be up to Americans to settle the score with the Fed afterwards.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    The second part of the program is valuing bank’s Treasuries and other securities at “par.”

    Isn’t there some guy who is being chased around by a New York DA for allegedly artificially inflating the value of assets?

    • R C Dean

      There’s a (valid?) debate about mark-to-market for treasuries. If you hold them to maturity, they get paid off at par. Should they be marked down when interest rates rise? I guess it depends on whether everyone involved is willing to accept/commit to not selling them before maturity.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Almost like unrealized loss(gains) are unrealized.

  19. Fatty Bolger

    The man is a monster who must be stopped.

    New — Ex-DeSantis staffers and those involved in planning his book tour/pre-campaign events describe long standing issues over his soft skills coming to the fore as he hits the road.

    Example: A 2019 flight from TLH to DC where he ate pudding w/ 3 fingers.

    • Trigger Hippie

      “That’s my pudding!”

      /Joe

      • The Other Kevin

        At least he ate it himself, and it wasn’t fed to him.

    • The Other Kevin

      That makes me like him more.

    • PieInTheSky

      better than 3 toes

      • Fourscore

        Wasn’t he a Green Beret or something? I’d be surprised if he even knows what eating utensils are. Snakes, etc are finger food.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Navy JAG.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      Worse, he had two scoops of pudding, when everyone else only had one.

      • Scruffyy Nerfherder

        *golfclap*

    • rhywun

      You know he’s running when the hard-hitting oppo-research starts coming out.

    • Not Adahn

      I mean if salad comb was NBD, why would this be?

    • Pine_Tree

      I don’t get the choice of 3… It’s weird to withhold just that one pinky. Do either all 4 “if yer gonna do it, do it”, or 2 since that approximates the width of a spoon better.

  20. pistoffnick

    There are so many wrestling moves that involve hands, arms, shoulders, and sometimes heads in your opponent’s crotchetal region, I think wrestling a lady would be uncomfortable.

    The only time I was pinned was wrestling a stacked dude Rushfield. I got turned over and started to push him up until I realized I was pushing on his nutsack. I gave up.

    • PieInTheSky

      wrestling a lady would be uncomfortable. – for which party?

      he only time I was pinned was wrestling – you don’t look like a wrestler in your avatar picture

    • Michael Malaise

      “pushing on his nutsack”

      Should’ve kept going.

      • rhywun

        “George fights dirty.”

      • R C Dean

        “If he don’t want me mashing his nutsack, he needs to keep it where I can’t reach it.”

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Senatorial drollery

    “I look forward to working with Sen. Paul and hopefully we can find common ground to go forward. Some of the amendments he offered were not germane to the substance of the bill that we were dealing with,” Peters said.

    Yes, indeed. That is completely outside the bounds of common Senate practice.

    • Drake

      Commander Riker grew a beard.

    • Scruffyy Nerfherder

      Democrats sure don’t want to vote on denying funds to Chinese virology labs for some reason.

  22. PieInTheSky

    Because I mentioned weight classes, women’s gymnastics was huge a while back in Romania and I always found it a form of child abuse myself, at least here. Livvy Dunne may be instagram famous but meh. I would not want my daughter in that sport. Or my son/daughter in any sport with weight classes before like 20. Especially since in many such sports the money isn’t even that good to make it worth the sacrifice, given the low odds. I mean in basketball at least if you make the NBA you are set.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      My daughter did gymnastics. It’s tough and requires a lot of time. Some of the coaches can be abusive (not the Larry Nasser kind of abusive), and some of the parents too. We stuck with it only as long as she was having fun. She reached a point where she just couldn’t get the skills to go to the next level, so she decided to quit. It had a lot of benefits. She’s tougher than most guys her age, both mentally and physically, and she learned how to manage her time and be disciplined.

      • PieInTheSky

        true but you can say that of many sports. Also I think it was a bit more abusive in Romania especially before 2010 when we stopped winning almost everything

      • rhywun

        Nadia! was a sensation here.

    • R C Dean

      Given the low odds of making the NBA, I would say that’s true for basketball as well.

      • PieInTheSky

        I don’t think kids sacrifice much to play ball.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    he ate pudding w/ 3 fingers.

    That’s hardly even a euphemism.

  24. PieInTheSky

    “And then they’d go gorge themselves after weigh-in.” weigh in is ridiculous in all adult sports. I like Mark Rippetoe’s idea that you get on the scale the second before you do the lift (in powerlifting) or the fight (in boxing wrestling etc )

    • PieInTheSky

      Shit. this was meant as a reply to “The Late P Brooks on March 16, 2023 at 11:45 am “

      • PieInTheSky

        It was better when the comments were numbered, just sayin

    • robc

      *goes to comments*

      Never go to comments on zerohedge.

      Here is a preview…it was the jews.

      • PieInTheSky

        well are you sure it wasn’t?

      • Mojeaux

        Zero Hedge (and its comments) is solely responsible for the Great Mojo Prepper Panic of 2008. I, of course, had NOTHING to do with that. I take no responsibility whatsoever. It was Zero Hedge wut dun it.

      • Nephilium

        So… it was the jews?

      • Mojeaux

        QED

  25. Tres Cool

    Hey RJ- I brought the Hewlett-(fudge)Packard back with the old “clear the CMOS” gag. Its sound as a pound.
    Now back to what would be my original question to the hardware nerd- should i even bother putting 32 gb of ram in a machine with an i3 1.2 GHz brain?

    • rhywun

      Depends on the nature and the volume of software you plan to run on it. If you’re running lots of modern software at the same time and you can spare the RAM, go for it.

    • Rat on a train

      1.2 GHz? ultra-low-power CPU? What’s the purpose?
      I have 64 GB with an i3 CPU in a low power server.

    • Nephilium

      Depends on if the motherboard and BIOS can support it. If it’s not supported, then it’s up to you, but I generally wouldn’t (unless it’s a machine I was testing that was destined for the trash if the upgrade didn’t work regardless).

  26. DrOtto

    If costumes and subplots aren’t involved, it ain’t wrestlin’.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    the old “clear the CMOS” gag.

    ???

    You never know when you might find something like that useful.

  28. PieInTheSky

    Read on a Romanian forum : Biden is one of the best presidents in history, second only to Reagan and Roosevelt. that is… something

    • Sean

      that is… something

      Delusional is the word you’re looking for.

      • rhywun

        Biden is one of the best presidents in history

        I think by the time all of… whatever is happening now is over, even Democrats won’t be able to say that with a straight face.

    • Mojeaux

      Reddit tells me the rest of the world is totally up on US culture, politics, and sports down to the very last detail of everything that goes on here, so of course, they’re right.

      One time, in romancelandia, there was a “new adult” romance novel [read: college age] set in Alabama (can’t remember which uni), specifically football. They got the football so, so wrong. It was almost understandable because the author was a Brit (but … why would you do that?). The comments from the Rest Of The Worldians were savage about Americans (they thought “Crimson Tide” was a reference to a period, but … in context, why would you do that?), all while not knowing what the author got wrong.

      I finally spoke up and said, “Yanno, we DO have culture here that you aren’t aware of. Crimson Tide and Auburn are legendary for their rivalry, and college football is BIG BUSINESS, not to mention a cultural touchstone. So don’t act like you know what we do here when you clearly do not. Also, the author has zero clue about how football is played, and she only chose the biggest college stage to do it on, so that’s a huge LOL on her.” I was shocked when the American proggies amongst the readership chimed in with me.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        And the rest of the world will tell you that the US has 52 states.

      • Mojeaux

        Canada is one of them, natch.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Nah.

        But the United States are Canada’s Underpants.

      • PieInTheSky

        57 minus the 5 Obama lost

    • kinnath

      that was unexpected

    • Mojeaux

      🤣🤣🤣

    • Gender Traitor

      😄👏👏👏

      (But probably NSFW)

  29. The Other Kevin

    This guy used to be on our team before he moved to Nashville. Last week he skated with us at practice. He wrestled in high school, and being born without femurs, he won a lot because people couldn’t figure out how to grapple him.

    https://www.teamusa.org/para-sled-hockey/athletes/brody-roybal

    • Tundra

      Height: 3-2

      Love it!

  30. The Late P Brooks

    There’s a (valid?) debate about mark-to-market for treasuries. If you hold them to maturity, they get paid off at par. Should they be marked down when interest rates rise? I guess it depends on whether everyone involved is willing to accept/commit to not selling them before maturity.

    I have some two year notes, which I will hold to maturity. If I sold them today, for some reason, I’d take a substantial loss. If I wanted to borrow against them, rather than sell them, would a bank give ma a loan based on face value or current market value?

    • The Other Kevin

      “Bank Learns Hard Lesson That If They Invest Their Money Irresponsibly The Government Will Bail Them Out’

  31. The Late P Brooks

    So… it was the jews?

    When in doubt, blame the Jews. Especially if moneylending is involved.

  32. kinnath

    Daily Quordle 416
    6️⃣7️⃣
    4️⃣2️⃣

    using new seed words today

    probably the last time it will work.

    • rhywun

      Ha I got the LR 2 also… but I fucked up everywhere else.

  33. JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

    And my bracket is busted.

    • juris imprudent

      You had WV?

      • PieInTheSky

        why west? Maybe just Virginia.

      • juris imprudent

        Because no one should ever trust UVA. They lost as a #1 seed, and defaulted all credibility, forever.

  34. UnCivilServant

    *Internet Rando orders Classic Dante mini*
    *Schmuck at GW Accidentally ships as yet unannounced updated Dante Mini*
    *Rando posts pics of box and his crappy paint job*
    *GW Announces updated Dante Mini* saying quote “The Day of Revelation has come a little earlier than expected”.

    Admittedly, I prefer this approach to leaks, where there is an actual picture or in this case physical product in the hands of the fans, they will just confirm it while the rumors without evidence are left to drift and swirl as rumors do. And it’s usually only a day or two between the leak and the formal announcement acknowledging what managed to escape them.