Yum.

 

A few new tipples.ย  One from memory since I didn’t find all of these at the same time.ย  Also, the tasting notes won’t be all that in-depth since I’m not in a terribly contemplative mood.

Teal deer:ย  Rye is good.ย  Even cheap rye is good.

Saratoga in the Rye:ย  This is something that is probably not at your liquor store, and you don’t need to be sad about that.ย  Not that this is bad — it’s actually good.ย  However, it’s not any better than less expensive options.ย  I was really looking forward to this one since most ryes are distilled at the same facility and then finished by the eventual bottler.ย  This was (supposedly) a complete localvore product, with NY-grown rye and Saratoga spring* water, distilled here in town.ย  That may be true, but there was nothing terroir-y about this, and at $40/bottle, I can’t recommend it.ย  You may notice that the bottle is empty in the picture.ย  That means it was good enough for me to drink, but not unique enough to add to the collection of whisky(ie)s that I keep on hand either for visitors, or for myself when I want that one particular taste/experience.ย  Really great and/or hard to get bottles are never finished until I have a replacement in hand.ย  Is it good enough to drink?ย  Absolutely?ย  Good enough to buy?ย  Nope.

Now the next two could be used for a practical lesson in a tasting class.

Confession time:ย  I like candy.ย  Which also means I like booze that’s been sitting in charred barrels soaking up all that pyrolyzed cellulose, getting all that caramel and vanillin into the hooch.ย  This effect is perfectly illustrated by these — the first being much more about the flavors of the barrel than the second.

James E. Pepper 1776 Straight Rye Whiskey: Sweet, peppery, finishes a bit ashy.ย  Unlike most, a little water cuts the sweetness way back.ย  The ashy finish is part and parcel of the process that gets that sweetness and color going.ย  However, beyond that, this isn’t the most terribly interesting drink. Even though it’s relatively cheap, there are much better values out there.ย  This one is not going into the collection, but will probably be used for whiskey sodas in the summer.

Hotel Tango Rye, ready-to-drink: The label says this is the only distillery run by disabled vets.ย  People are for the most part, people.ย  And large groups of people are generally also people.ย  Neither better nor worse.ย  There are a few groups that do seem to be worse than the general population (teachers, politicians, cops) but veterans seem to not be among those.ย  Having said all of that, between Black Rifle Coffee Company and William Gordon Gaylor Jr., I am totally over the vetbro thing.ย  The proof of the whiskey is in the drinking.ย  ย Almost completely lacking a nose.ย  Oh, now this one is good.ย  This one is much more about the spirit as opposed to the barrel – it lacks the candy notes as the ash, and it’s lighter overall.ย  This one is going into the collection.ย  I’m not sure exactly what kind of mood it’s most suited for, but it’s tasty.

 

*The various springs in Saratoga Springs have radically differing levels of carbonation, sulfur, and /or other more-or-less tasty minerals.ย  So when someone claims “made with famous Saratoga Springs water!” you really so need to consider which spring they used.ย  Now if they mean “water purchased from the Saratoga Spring Water Company,” yeah that stuff is fairly delish.ย  But when I finally get one of you to visit, we’ll take a springs tasting tour and you can experience Hathorn Spring in all its effervescent stench glory.

 

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Not Adahn

Not Adahn

Despite all my rage, I am still just an impeccably dressed rat.

133 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    I remember back when people would order “rye and ginger”, and we would just pour Canadian.

    • DEG

      Excellent version of that song.

  2. rhywun

    I like the squat bottle too.

    • Not Adahn

      Yes! You can pack more square bottles in a cabinet, and you don’t need to adjust the shelf height up when they’re low form-factor like that.

  3. Don escaped Texas

    ** pours Macallan **

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      Macallan is a family name in the way back when.

      Love their whisky but wasn’t prepared for the price jump. It’s about $100 a fifth here.

      Thanks for the info on the ryes. Will definitely give them a try.

    • Zwak tastes the soup, but never counts the beans.

      Mmm…. it doesn’t really work as coil cleaner, but it is a good Drano substitute.

  4. rhywun

    Effervescent Stench Glory was my debut single. It didn’t do too well.

    • Chafed

      That’s what happens when your band name is the song title.

      • rhywun

        Icehouse, They Might Be Giants, and Talk Talk – among others – hardest hit.

  5. Shirley Knott

    I haven’t thanked you for bringing Basil Hayden Dark Rye to my attention, so *thank you* in extremis!
    It’s now my sipping whiskey of choice, being considerably easier to find than my old standby Sazerac.
    Lovely stuff.

    • R C Dean

      *adds to list*

      Thanks for doing these, NA. Not seeing the Hotel Tango locally. The Pepper interests me, Iโ€™ll have to keep an eye out.

  6. DEG

    Rye is good. Even cheap rye is good.

    ๐Ÿ™‚

    These guys had a one-off maple flavored rye. I have a bottle somewhere. It is tasty.

  7. Brochettaward

    Do you even First, bro?

    I already know the answer with you people.

      • Brochettaward

        I mean you, the inferior race of subhuman seconders.

      • Brochettaward

        Who else would I have meant?

      • Michael Malaise

        Why are you talking to yourself?

      • Brochettaward

        Honestly, most of the time I’m left wondering if I wouldn’t be better off exclusively talking to myself. Only a Firster of my caliber can truly appreciate the greatness of my Firsts, and there’s only one Firster of my caliber.

  8. Chafed

    This is news I can use.

  9. Zwak tastes the soup, but never counts the beans.

    Rye and Irish are my two whiskys, don’t see the need for much else at my age.

    • R C Dean

      Rye, Irish, Scotch, and Bourbon are my four whiskies. I agree with you – I donโ€™t see any need either for much else at my age.

  10. cavalier973

    Just watched the first episode of โ€œThe Peter Gun Showโ€:

    https://youtu.be/LTMVMRJtF68

    The only mystery is how such a boring show got such an awesome theme song.

    Murray Slaughter is the bad guy.

    • cavalier973

      I got confused by the police guy telling Gunn what is going on. Is Gunn officially with the police? If so, is he the guy who played the organ?

      I mean, no, heโ€™s a P.I., so why is the police guy giving him info, like he expects Gunn to go after the bad guy?

      • The Hyperbole

        That’s fairly common in old PI stories, The Continental Op worked very closely with the police even giving uniformed cops orders at times, It seems odd to those oif us that grew up with Jim Rockford but that’s apparently how it used to be.

      • cavalier973

        Several Continental Op stories are available free of charge on LibriVox.

        I just finished binge-reading all seven โ€œPhilip Marloweโ€ novels (plus most of his pulp stories) by Raymond Chandler. Very entertaining.

      • The Hyperbole

        I just finished a collection of Fredric Browns detective stories, for a Sci-fi guy he writes a pretty good detective story, maybe not as hard boiled as Chandler or Hammett but fun.

      • Zwak tastes the soup, but never counts the beans.

        Check out Browns Fabulous Clipjoint. It is one of the better hard-boiled novels, and he was a pulp writer, so wrote pretty much everything.

      • The Hyperbole

        I read that one, I meant to look for the rest of the series ( I think there’s a series) but never got around to it.

    • rhywun

      Huh. I knew that was the Theme to something but never knew what.

      • cavalier973

        The video game Spy Hunter. The tv show ripped it off.

      • rhywun

        No, they ripped it off from Art of Noise.

      • DrOtto

        Best game ever

      • The Hyperbole

        Odd way to spell Galaga

      • DrOtto

        Galaga isn’t far off.

      • cavalier973

        Itโ€™s so dramatic

      • cavalier973

        Black Col. Sanders is in the house!

      • cavalier973

        โ€œThey loved your act!โ€

        โ€œYeah, but the only problem is that I can only do it once!โ€

      • cavalier973

        I wonder if every episodeโ€™s post-credit scene is a funeral

      • cavalier973

        I am enjoying the Dixieland music in this episode

      • cavalier973

        Gunn adheres to the fine tradition of P.I.โ€™s getting beat up and knocked out.

  11. CPRM

    I’ve seen mention several times lately on this site about people getting on a plane going to the wrong place. One that has been mentioned quite a few times was a guy who thought he was flying to Oakland, CA but flew to Auckland, NZ. I had read these in dead threads so I never got to point out, that was a gag done on Full House. Based on something that did happen in 1985.

    • rhywun

      That does sound like something any of the bright lights on Full House might do.

  12. Zwak tastes the soup, but never counts the beans.

    Watching a pretty good movie right now – Emily the Criminal. Stars Aubrey Plaza in a serious role.

    Also, there is a charactor named Yousef!

  13. Shpip

    It’s not a pure rye, but my absolute favorite sippin’ whiskey is the Copper Fox Rye out of Virginia.

    Distilled from a unique blend of thoroughbred grains from the Northern Neck of Virginia; 2/3 rye, 1/3 barley, hand-malted and kiln-dried with applewood and cherrywood smoke.

    The sweetness of a Speyside malt with the spiciness of rye, along with a touch of hardwood smoke. It’s not for everyone, but it’s damn sure for me.

  14. Shpip

    I’m wondering if the James E. Pepper was one of their new homegrown ryes, or one that was sourced from MGP.

    For those not in the know, Midwest Grain Products is a distillery in Indiana that makes a 95% rye, 5% corn whiskey that’s pretty damn good. A whole lot of brands (Dickel, Buillet) just bottle the stuff and sell it under their own label, while others (High West, WhistlePig) do some masterful ageing and blending to create an even better product.

  15. Gustave Lytton

    My tastes are circling the drain. Old Forrester and Teacher’s are my go to these days.

  16. Gustave Lytton

    Rip Dick Fosbury, the most successful flop ever

    • Shpip

      /Looks upthread, realized he’s the only flop around there here parts.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Form doesn’t matter as long as you get it over the bar.

      • Chafed

        Welcome to the cool kids club. We’ve all been there.

  17. Gustave Lytton

    I saw about Short Round winning an Oscar, but missed the others. I haven’t seen either movie that they were in, but good on all of them. Seems weird to think of Brendan Fraser as an academy award winner now. Same for Sarah Polley.

  18. hayeksplosives

    Good evening, Crazy crackers!

    Last time I checked in to Glibs, early this Saturday morn, I thought I was going to have to head to the ER. Fever 102.7, cough, SpO2 of 91%, but 24 hours later I was right as rain. No idea what that crap was about.

    Anyhoo, I have had a busy but fruitful couple of days. Got the keys to my new apartment, made a Target run for essentials (kitchenware, inflatable Intex mattress for me now, guests later, towels, sheets, trashcans, etc). My fantastic coworker and partner in crime who is midway through a 2 week stay up here insisted on helping me, so he did all the heavy lifting. Phew.

    Then today at work I felt really good because i was able to contribute immediately in ways that not just anyone could, so even though many challenges remain, we are making progress and the team is awesome to work with.

    Thanks for all the words of encouragement etc. Hope to Zoom with you guys on Wednesday, but with some of my social calendar now being taken up with work folks, might not be until Friday.

    Until then, take care all!

    • one true athena

      Glad you’re feeling better!

      I am now so cynical about pandemics I think you should take a blood sample and store it in your freezer and later you will discover you had the New Dread H2N787 back in March 2023.

    • Shpip

      Attagirl! Glad to see that you’re back on your feet.

    • dbleagle

      Good to hear that you told death “Back off Jack!” and are on the mend.

      I trust that you’ll continue to contribute to your job and I’d bet you’ll have numerous flashes if insight that will lift up your team.

      I hope you purchased no pastels at Target, you don’t want to let Morticia down.

  19. Sean

    Good morning Glibs.

    ๐Ÿ˜‹โ˜•

    • Shirley Knott

      Mornin’

      • Shirley Knott

        Meh. Cold in my apartment, vaguely cranky and not even out of bed yet.
        OTOH, the snow has stopped and it’s supposed to be mostly sunny today. I like getting solar heat for free ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • slumbrew

        Being able to turn up the heat without having to get out of bed is one of the great joys of modern life.

      • Shirley Knott

        I’d settle for being able to turn up the heat. This building has a hydro ice system so basically all I get is on/off, with different set points my only control. It doesn’t keep up with outdoor ambient variations at all well. Space heater helps (electric included in rent, tg), but not enough to satisfy my inner lizard on cold mornings like today. Oh, well. The place is cheap;you get what you pay for ;-\

      • Shirley Knott

        Effing autocorrect — hydronics not hydro ice.

    • slumbrew

      Morninโ€™

      Apparently Iโ€™m now one of those โ€œwake up at 05:30 for no reasonโ€ Glibs.

      At least WFH means I can catch a 30 minute nap later.

      • UnCivilServant

        I woke up at 2am because the acetominophen wore off and my headache and fever came back. I never really got back to sleep, despite my best efforts (and a new dose)

      • slumbrew

        Oof, hope you shake whatโ€™s ailing you.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not sure what it is yet. So I don’t know whether to expect it to get worse or fade.

      • Gender Traitor

        No other symptoms, I hope?

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t know if the fatigue is due to the ilness or from the interrupted sleep.

      • Gender Traitor

        We’ll chalk that up to lack of sleep until evidence indicates otherwise.

      • Shirley Knott

        Yuck. My sympathies. Hope you recover soon.

      • Gender Traitor

        ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

      • Grosspatzer

        Ouch. Hope you feel better soon.

      • rhywun

        At least WFH means I can catch a 30 minute nap later.

        I take a siesta after lunch every day. Don’t tell my boss.

      • Grosspatzer

        I take my naps during meetings. When I am called on to respond to something, I ask the speaker to repeat the question. The team thinks I am hard of hearing: old age has its privileges.

    • Not Adahn

      Morning!

      Where’s mah snomageddon?

  20. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning homey, slummy, U, Shirley, and Sean!

      I got up on time this morning, so Little Black Kitty got his cuddle… and then I had to pry one of his claws out of my hoodie when the coffee was ready. ๐Ÿ˜•

      • Gender Traitor

        …and I just pulled up the local traffic map. There are crashes all over the place. So far none listed along my commute route, but it’s probably just a matter of time. ๐Ÿ˜’

      • Shirley Knott

        Ouch. Icy, or just bad drivers?

      • Gender Traitor

        “Heavy snow showers.” And bad drivers are, of course, a given.

      • Shirley Knott

        Mornin’ GT. LBK must have forgiven you for yesterday ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Gender Traitor

        Or he thinks I’m performing penance. ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿฑโ€๐Ÿ‘ค

      • Grosspatzer

        Mornin’, GT.

        and then I had to pry one of his claws out of my hoodie

        Oh no! What will you wear to the drive-by?

      • Gender Traitor

        Riddle: What goes clop clop clop BANG BANG BANG clop clop clop?

      • Grosspatzer

        Amish drive-by?

      • Gender Traitor

        ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
        ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
        ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

        [round of applause]

      • Gender Traitor

        [It was a lot rounder before I hit “Reply.”]

      • UnCivilServant

        A centaur knocker-upper waking his clients.

      • Gender Traitor

        Hmmm… “knocker-upper” means something very different in my neighborhood, but the judges will accept it.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s an old profession predating the euphemism that got put out of business by alarm clocks.

      • WTF

        HORSE SMITH?

  21. Ozymandias

    Good morning, all you reprobates! Couldn’t fall asleep last night despite my best efforts, so I’m up early to drive-by NA’s another of fine articles on Rye.
    My brother-in-law will only drink rye and I have to say, I find it “cleaner” and “lighter” than some of the other dark fermented liquids.
    I’m going to get the HT on both recommendation and principle – but like you, NA, I’m over the vetbro thing.
    (No, I don’t want a military or retired vet discount; I don’t want a ‘thank you for my service.’ I do want vets to stop acting like cops and nurses – i.e. like they’re owed something for picking that particular vocation)… now back to getting the kids off of my lawn.

    Hope you’re all doing well. The fight against govt medical tyranny continues apace. Every time we get a small win, the govt changes the rules. Go figure.

    • Grosspatzer

      Mornin’, Oz. You are fighting the good fight against the tyrants. Thanks for that.

      • Ozymandias

        My pleasure, ‘patzie. It appears to be how I’m wired, so it gives me something to do that at least has a certain nobility.
        (It may be the same kind of nobility that Don Juan had, but whatever. To each his own windmills.)

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Ozy! Good luck in your ongoing battle with the Calvinball administration!

    • Shirley Knott

      Good to see you around here again! You are missed, but as noted by others, you’re fighting the good fight. It’s much appreciated.

  22. Grosspatzer

    Mornin’, reprobates!

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, ‘patzie! โ˜•

      • Grosspatzer

        โ˜•๏ธ๐Ÿšฌ

      • rhywun

        Surprised this ๐Ÿšฌ still exists.

      • Grosspatzer

        Couldn’t find a pipe emoji.

  23. Tres Cool

    GT be careful out there- our part of town is a sheet of ice. Ive been out in it already, and turned around.

    • Gender Traitor

      Yeah, I’m getting that distinct impression. See how purty?

      • UnCivilServant

        Apparently we got travel bans. First I’ve heard of it was an email saying the offices were closed but those of us telecommuting still had to work.

        Today is a regularly scheduled remote day ๐Ÿ™

        We also have three interviews I’m totally unprepared for, and my foggy brain won’t help.

        What are your plans in re the weather?

      • Gender Traitor

        Just about to go try my luck.

    • cavalier973

      โ€œGoober Pop was a bad dudeโ€ฆโ€

    • rhywun

      โ€œHe asked me to do his eulogy โ€” excuse me, I shouldnโ€™t say that,โ€ Biden told supporters during remarks at a fundraiser in Rancho Santa Fe, California, according to a pool report.

      โ€œI spent time with Jimmy Carter, and itโ€™s finally caught up with him. But they found a way to keep him going for a lot longer than they anticipated, because they found a breakthrough,โ€ the president continued.

      Good lord. You’re not kidding.

      And who does this? I don’t believe Carter asked for Joe’s kind words at all.

      • AlexinCT

        Joe’s demented brain prolly does believe this was asked of him, just like he believes the lies he keeps telling even after the people managing him and really running the country into the ground told em to stop.

    • WTF

      I wonder whether that really happened or if it’s just an artifact of Biden’s fevered brain.

      • cavalier973

        Obviously, the Biden impersonator was asked to eulogize the Carter impersonator. All the real people are at Gitmo.

    • Ozymandias

      I am holding out hope that he actually does it… and then strokes out right in the middle of some long string of nonsense that sounds like it might be misquotes from Jabberwocky.
      With the cameras catching Camel-Toe Harris doing that nervous cackle-thing after Biden drops dead on Carter’s coffin and she finally processes what that means. (It could take a while, but it’s my fantasy and I’ll dream it how I want it!!)

      How awesome would that be?! Two of the worst presidents ever going into the ground together. I for one would stand up and salute.

      • AlexinCT

        I AM THE GUY THAT FINALLY MADE CARTER NOT THE WORST PRESIDENT EVEAH!

        URGGHHHH..
        /Keels over..

      • WTF

        That would be awesome, and then we get to see the aftermath as they blame Trump and “extreme MAGA Republicans” for his death, because Trump weakened Obamacare or something.

  24. Grosspatzer

    https://nypost.com/2023/03/13/yankees-great-joe-pepitone-dead-at-82/

    RIP, Joe Pepitone. An OK ballplayer, but I will always remember him for this incident reported by Jim Bouton in “Ball Four”:

    “One day Joe Pepitone inserted a piece of popcorn under his foreskin
    and went to the trainer claiming a new venereal disease”

    They don’t make ’em like that any more.

    • cavalier973

      โ€œCorn pop was a bad VDโ€ฆโ€

  25. Not Adahn

    The drive to work was the slickest I’ve encountered. Must be some temperature thing.

    I only got the driveway half-cleared before the snowblower got clogged on slush to the point the auger couldn’t proceed. Hopefully it doesn’t freeze while I’m at work.

    • AlexinCT

      I can’t wait for his next project: Meth Gator…

      • Not Adahn

        I wonder about that. I had a frat brother give some whiskey to a lizard and it died almost immediately.