Glibbooks 16 – We did it before and we can do it again, hey!

by | Jun 4, 2023 | Admin, Canada, Choose Your Own Adventure | 135 comments

A while back I broke from NYT Acrostic norms and did a puzzle based on a quote from a movie not from a book, this time I’ve used a song lyric, it’s a fairly popular one amongst some Glibs so it may be an easy one for the acrostic hesitant to take stab at, also the song title is very short so I used the album title for the attribution part (Band name album title.)

Book wise I got nothing so lets revisit a tried and true subject – What book or books would you suggest for a libertarian curious noob, my stand by answer is  Ain’t Nobody’s Business if You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Society by Peter McWilliams, So give this entry level puzzle a shot and tell us your suggestions in the comments, or not blah blah blah…

Music to solve Glibcrostics to

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Goddammit! Every time I finish formatting all this I see a ‘typo’ , feel free to add an ‘r’ into clue D. I ain’t starting over at this point.

Reminder: The last Sunday of each month is “What Are We Reading” Day so if you want to participate get your reports in to HeyBuddyStopDoingThat@protonmail.com by the second to last Sunday.

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135 Comments

  1. R.J.

    I felt a disturbance in the force, as if the entire Glibertariat went to lunch at once, and was silenced…

    • Rat on a train

      I went to see the FredNats defeat the Delmarva Shorebirds. It was great weather for a game.

  2. R.J.

    A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
    And no one can talk to a horse of course
    That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed!

    • Fourscore

      I have talked to a lot of Horses’ Asses though.

      Drop by the DMV, and city or county office, etc

      • R.J.

        IT’S $18.30 EXACT CASH ONLY TO RENEW YOUR LICENSE, WIIIIIILBUUUR!

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      A host is a host, from coast to coast
      And anyone can talk to a host, of course
      Unless of course the connecting host
      Is busy, hungup or dead.

      — someone’s .sig on USENET

      • R.J.

        Man, I feel like the driver of a church bus. It’s a oot of fun but very tiring. Total eight people on this trip. Wife is coordinating, I am driving and packing/unpacking luggage.

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        One of the things I love about my road trips is being on no one else’s time. I am by my self, usually for around a week, and all decisions are mine.

        It is glorious.

  3. R.J.

    I went by a restaurant that had a drink called “The Smoking Nun.”

  4. Fourscore

    “Freedom to Choose” Milton Friedman

    Friedman also has You tubes of good explanations of many stereotypical questions, I.e. “Why Socialism Doesn’t Work” type college freshman questions.

    “Machinery of Freedom” by David Friedman, Milton’s son

    “Economics in One Lesson” Henry Hazlitt, great book for a novice.

    • The Hyperbole

      I’m not familiar with the second one, looks good I’ll check it out.

  5. rhywun

    I have the same stand-by. It is in the fact the book that opened my eyes.

  6. KSuellington

    How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne. I recommend this back in the beginning of the site to SP when she was compiling the recommend downloads for here. Great book, think I will reread it, wish I had discovered it about a decade or so before I did.

    • Fourscore

      I read that many years ago too.

      I have 2 VHS copies of Browne’s “Libertarian Offer” of when he was running for office.

      If anyone is interested they are free and I’ll have less stuff.

      • Q Continuum

        I thought it was “Let me put MY junk, in YOUR junk!”?

      • Tres Cool

        You’ve been watching too much Pr0nHub.

      • KSuellington

        Heheh, I only have a Betamax player. You kids and your newfangled VHS.

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        Real Libertarians only have LAZER DISCS!!

    • Pat

      Good book, but the chapters he spent ennobling himself for abandoning his child after divorcing her mother, and shitting on marriage and the nuclear family as infringements on personal freedom would keep me from recommending it to anyone not already of our tribe. It’s like reading a right-wing caricature of a Randian hyper-egoist.

      • The Hyperbole

        This is why I think Why Government Doesn’t Work is the better intro to libertarianism by Browne.

      • KSuellington

        Yeah I remember being not enthused by that when reading it. After having 3 kids I’d be even less so. When you have kids you’re signing up for a long term deal. It’s not something you choose to back out on.

      • The Hyperbole

        In a similar vein, the one nit I have to pick with the McWilliams book is the entire part about The Bible. I’m not religious at all but I can see how it might turn off some people.

  7. juris imprudent

    Knowledge and Decisions by Sowell

    • KSuellington

      Great one. I love his Basic Economics and Applied Economics as well.

  8. Homple

    Currently reading “The Demon in Democracy: Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies” by Ryszard Legutko

    The author was a Polish dissident who helped kick communism out of his country. After living for some years in liberal-democratic Poland, he noticed some similarities between communism and liberal democracy—especially in the operation of the EU. In short, he thinks the communist philosophy of government appeals to those ruling Western democracies. Much of what he says applies to the USA at present.

    Legutko is a professor of philosophy at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow.

    • juris imprudent

      communist philosophy of government

      Presuming by that he means the bureaucratized state, as in actual communist countries (and not the idealized, non-existent govt as imagined by Trotskyites and others who never actually govern). Yeah, I don’t see where there is a lot of difference between the promulgation of rules/regulations in the USSR or the USA.

    • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

      I have been reading a little bit about how the EU is ramming, in an undemocratic way, all sorts of BS through local/national governments lately. Hate speech laws in Ireland, climate laws in the Netherlands, all done against the will of the people. Authoritarianism is the common issue, and both communism and whatever the EU thinks it is both have it. Both thought they were “on the right side of history”.

      Asshoe.

    • Don escaped Texas

      Killdozer Day is the same as Tiananmen Square Day!?

      • Tres Cool

        Synchronicity, man.

    • Homple

      Well, the Chinese communist party will not be held accountable for its crimes.

  9. rhywun

    Done. Didn’t grok a bunch of the clues lol.

  10. Don escaped Texas

    in a What We’re Consuming

    Nora’s Will is subtle, thoughtful, and unique

  11. Tundra

    I wonder if the best libertarian books would be ones that aren’t so much philosophical as demonstrations of the evil of government. For instance, I’ve gotten really good feedback from people I’ve turned on to Denise Minger’s Death By Food Pyramid.

    Also thinking anti-war and anti government books like Darkness At Noon, The Mandibles, or even something likeEnough Already.

    Hazlitt, Rothbard and Hoppe are geniuses, of course, but I’ve had a hell of a time getting normies to read them.

    I’m a retard. I had to use clues for the puzzle. I blame lead paint.

    • Fourscore

      Almost 40 years ago I read Robert Ringer’s “Looking out for Number #1”. I was thinking it would be pop psychology . It was the first book that challenged my thinking and I began to look around. Met a couple libertarians along the way, in Madison, WI, of all places. They helped to get me through the leftover liberalism and straight laced conservatism that was lingering and introduced me to Hayek and Von Mises as well as the others.

      • Pat

        I read my dad’s copy of Ringer’s Winning Through Intimidation at a young age, but I was already libertarian adjacent by that point anyway.

      • kinnath

        I read Winning Through Intimidation and loved it. I lent it to me father. He refused to give it back, and just gave me the cover price in cash.

        It’s be a big influence on me.

    • rhywun

      I’m a retard. I had to use clues for the puzzle. I blame lead paint.

      I cheated. I guessed the song and artist pretty quickly but I couldn’t recall the album title so wikipedia to the rescue. Smooth sailing after that considering I don’t know the lyrics.

      • Gender Traitor

        I gave up after only solving a few of the clues. (BTW, the answer to the TMNT clue was spelled wrong. 😒)

      • The Hyperbole

        The puzzle editors on this site are shite, also I clued this last night so I was rushing and relying too much on google search results. And he’s a shit artist that deserves to have his name mispelled.

  12. Pat

    Essays, not books, but Bastiat’s That Which Is Seen, And That Which Is Not Seen and Hayek’s The Use Of Knowledge In Society are both great for addressing common objections to unintuitive economic policy and refuting simplistic pop economics. Then again, it may not be a great idea to start someone who may be predisposed to favor a welfare state on the road to Hayek’s UBI…

  13. Timeloose

    I think a simple book by someone familiar to people who is less scary would work well.

    John Stossel
    No, They Can’t: Why Government Fails-But Individuals Succeed

  14. Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

    Thinking further back to my youth, I would say the books that set me in the direction, not path yet as that took a little while, of libertarianism was The Cub Scout Handbook.
    https://www.amazon.com/cub-scout-handbook/s?k=cub+scout+handbook
    It is a series of books, manuals, whatever, that lead you into being a very self reliant person, and also one who is set to both help other people, and to leave them alone. Obviously, they are a huge part of scouting, which done right is very liberal, in the classic sense. Of course, they can lead to big gov’t also, but that is the risk you take.

    Outside that, I seem to be reading a bunch of stuff on model railroads. Not sure why. The trains are cool, but the buildings and stuff, not really my cup of tea. I did order a fairly expensive book from England, as it is out of print, not online, and pertains to a fixation of mine. But, I will cover that when it comes.

    • dbleagle

      When I had a model RR I was all about the operations. How do RR actually do what they do with such efficiency. I had a old glass that represented Chicago because the important part of the city for me was the key rail the city played in the interaction of goods and passengers between the eastern and western railroads. Chicago was nothing more than that- sorry Swiss.

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        Well, along with wooden boats, I love trains. But I also like electricity, and not that arduino stuff. That’s boring to me. I would much rather wire up a riding mower, or house on 120, than play with computers. Model RR has a lot of that. Although, right now I am trying to get a drum switched 120/240VAC single phase motor resurrected.

  15. Gustave Lytton

    Back from the weekend roadtrip to visit the in-laws. Drinking beer and watching the grass water itself.

    Liawatha’s dipshit agency on non-covered deposits. Real rich considering those were covered in the case of SVB. Are they really that oblivious?

    Beer salesmen losing money due to Bud Lite: ridiculous to be paying commissions on maintenance accounts

  16. mindyourbusiness

    Charles Murray’s What it Means to be a Libertarian might be a good recommendation to a newbie. He starts with the NAP and goes on from there to show what a truly libertarian society might look like. Along the way, his recommendations slice off about 80 – hell, closer to 90 – percent of government. The book is readable, lucid and covers points that a newcomer could bring up.

    • The Hyperbole

      But he’s the racist that wrote The Bell Curve.

      • Mojeaux

        So… how’s The Bell Jar coming along for you? Still sitting in your work truck weeping and wishing for a gas stove?

      • The Hyperbole

        The Bell Jar? never heard of it, As for sitting in my truck weeping, if I am it has nothing to do with the want of an overrated gas stove.

  17. Penguin

    I read one of Sowell’s works*, then one of Friedman’s (Capitalism and Freedom). With the audacity of a young socialist punk, I thought I could debunk them. Instead, they debunked me. Then I read Atlas Shrugged and any trace of socialism in me was all over.

    * I think it was Basic Economics.

  18. Gustave Lytton

    Beg from the audience (and maybe from Raven Nation on another day when he’s around): a good US history survey book(s), possibly of of political history. Zinn without the leftist claptrap and a white pill. Request from my wife after my opposition that politics today is somehow unique or even the most extreme in viciousness and clashes. My contention is that it’s no where near what it was when Reps were caning Senators or Bloody Kansas or even machine political control. And that in spite of everything, we’re all remarkably well off and luxurious in general nor is politics the entirety of society.

    • Penguin

      What work(s) is (are) that?

      • Penguin

        Or are you just speaking in general?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Sorry, asking for one if anyone has some suggestions.

      • Penguin

        Ah, sorry. I’ll learn to read one of these days.

        If you don’t mind a tongue in cheek suggestion: History in ten firearms.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Shit, he’s been dead for ten years???

      • Penguin

        (Mentally) I’m still stuck in the 2000’s or the 2010’s. I have to constantly remind myself the year is 2023. It sounds like sci-fi bullshit until I let the reality seep in. I can actually remember when the year 2000 seemed like some far-off future.

      • Pat

        (Mentally) I’m still stuck in the 2000’s or the 2010’s.

        Same. “20 years ago” is going to be the mid to late ’90s until I die.

    • Fourscore

      Even the Founding Fathers had strong dislikes of one another, in many cases. The party was over and the Party(s) took over very quickly.

      • Pat

        Even the Founding Fathers had strong dislikes of one another, in many cases.

        “Thomas Jefferson still survives…”

        Now that’s how you carry a grudge.

      • robc

        At that point, they were friends again.

      • Pat

        Officially, yes, although Adams’ last words betray that Jefferson was at the very least still living in his head, even if he hadn’t meant them in bitterness. The irony, of course, being that Jefferson had died hours earlier on the same day.

      • R.J.

        Kinda like Van Halen!

      • R.J.

        So which one of the Founding Fathers was David Lee Roth?

      • slumbrew

        Ben Franklin, obvs

  19. Penguin

    “drinking sulfuric acid he mistook for milk”

    Never did that, but one time my mom poured wine into a drinking glass, which I mistook for apple juice, and chugged that down. Oops. I don’t remember if I caught a buzz or not, which probably means I did.

  20. robc

    CS Lewis, “God in the Dock”.

    Its a collection of essays, some of them with a strong libertarian bent. “Willing Slaves of the Welfare State” has been quoted here often.

    • hayeksplosives

      Duly noted! Thanks!

  21. slumbrew

    P.J. O’Rourke, in general, and Parliament of Whores in particular pushed me towards libertarianism.

    • Chafed

      And cocaine?

      • slumbrew

        It was just a phase, thankfully.

    • Pat

      His “wrong within normal parameters” endorsement of Clinton in ’16 was an unfortunate manner by which to piss away his decades of accumulated credibility before he died.

      • slumbrew

        Latter-day P.J.’s establishmentarianism was a stain on his earlier work. He turned into the thing he used to mock.

  22. Shpip

    If you like absurdist humor that’s prescient, Mean Martin Manning is a hilarious read and a rebuke of the therapeutic state.

  23. Gustave Lytton

    Sippy cups are for children, not adults.

  24. hayeksplosives

    Really enjoying Andrew Heaton’s “Inappropriately Human” collection of short stories.

    Andrew is a Reason contributor and maker of the “libertarian edition” movie and TV series.

    • Sean

      Uh…Glibs.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’ve been cheating on us with the Gross Pounds again, haven’t you?

    • Not Adahn

      “GLB” is sexist and transphobic, you sexist transphobe.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Sean, U, NA, and Stinky (and hayek, on the off chance you’re still awake and around.)

      • UnCivilServant

        Morning.

        I guess its fitting that the first day back after vacation is an office day.

        Gotta do a probation evaluation for my new hire this week (It’s due thursday).

      • Gender Traitor

        How’s he doing?

      • UnCivilServant

        So far so good. Shows decent initiative, can learn, that puts him above a lot of people as an employee.

      • Gender Traitor

        👍🏼👍🏼

      • UnCivilServant

        How are your feline associates doing?

      • Gender Traitor

        LBC still isn’t back to his old self, and acts as if maybe something is hurting him other than his healing mouth. I’m worried his extra eating to regain the weight he lost may have his guts in an uproar. Yesterday he acted as if he wanted to get up on my lap, but when I tried to pick him up, he meowed and jumped right down. Gotta keep an eye on him to see if this persists. It may mean yet another trip to the vet. 😟🐱‍👤

      • Grosspatzer

        Best wishes to LBC.

      • UnCivilServant

        I do like that I get a third as many emails as I used to. In my old group it was 3K/week I was gone, here it was under 1k for a week. But it was a four day week for everyone else to generate emails.

    • Grosspatzer

      You’d think that in a place which suffered a horrific famine not so long ago people would know better. People have short memories.

    • Gender Traitor

      ***SIGH!!!*** Here comes another giant wave of immigrants! Who will write the sad ballad of the beef famine, and how many dozen verses will it have?

    • Scruffyy Nerfherder

      I’d rather be ruled by the British than the WEF.

      No real difference anymore.

  25. Grosspatzer

    Mornin”, reprobates!

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, ‘patzie! Did you enjoy your weekend getaway?

      • Grosspatzer

        Mornin’! It was a fine weekend indeed, much shopping was done. Boogied down to a steel drum band, too.

      • Grosspatzer

        Ah, found the cause of internal server error. Leading apostrophe on “twas” throws error, “It was” works. WP dislikes unclosed quores?

  26. Not Adahn

    *flexes*

    I had a good match on Saturday. Like REALLY good.

    *flexes*
    *flexes*

    I’m officially unclassified in this division, but partway into the process, I’m going to be a C shooter. There were sixteen C shooters at this match. I beat all of them.

    *flexes*

    Top 20% overall; on one stageTop 10%.

    On a stage, (like that one) if I beat a master-class shooter, that means the M had a gun malfunction. But I beat an M, a pack of Bs and a couple As? That means I did something right.

    *flexes*
    *pulls latissimus dorsi*
    *rolls on the ground in agony*

    • Grosspatzer

      *Riotous applause*

    • UnCivilServant

      Congratulations! You have been ‘randomly’ selected to be tested for performance enhancing drugs.

      • Not Adahn

        So the stage I kicked ass on was completely due to my gamer mentality.

        It was a 22 rounds required stage, (which in NY means 2 reloads). But two of those shots were on a “disappearing target” for which there was no penalty for missing (or even shooting at).

        So I said, fuck that target. This let me skip a reload and perhaps more importantly shoot the stage with the absolute minimum of movement. Some guys in my squad thought that was “gaming.”

        But I beat all of them.

      • UnCivilServant

        If the target is not required to complete the course and provides no bonus if hit, why is it there?

      • Not Adahn

        a) It would add more points. I was estimating that the time saved would be more valuable than the points gained. USPSA scoring = (points scored)/(time).

        b) Stage designer might not have been thinking terribly clearly.

    • Sean

      Congrats!

    • UnCivilServant

      You have a strange definition of ‘cool’.