270 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Top Trump prosecutor Karen Gilbert has checkered past

    You mean the people that read Hillary Clintons mind, even after she destroyed evidence and used a server to avoid record retention rules and claimed it was that she didn’t want people to know she was doing yoga, and found that she had no ill intent when she clearly broke the law, but now reads Trump’s mind and despite a flimsy case say he had bad intentions, are all fucking crooks?

    NO WAY!

  2. Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

    That $100K from Rogan has ballooned to about $1.5M with other characters like Tim Pool kicking in.

    Hotez is getting dragged hard on Twitter for not accepting. There’s not enough popcorn in the world to eat while I’m watching this.

    • AlexinCT

      The deep state can’t have debates happening when they clearly want to make the case that letting people that disagree with them talk is a crime.

    • Raven Nation

      While doing some searching on this yesterday, I discovered Rogan interviewed Hotez about three years ago, praising him as a great doctor.

      Be interesting to know what’s transpired there over the last three years.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        The establishment came after Rogan for using ivermectin and talking about it. They tried to take his scalp.

      • AlexinCT

        Rogan started realizing that the left was run by evil lying people, and that kind of left him no longer feeling the left was more liberal as they claimed?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        The Great Double-Talking Vaccine Scientist pic.twitter.com/CKz5i1OOPy— Matt Orfalea (@0rf) June 14, 2023

        The editing is a bit much, but gets the point across.

        Hotez can’t do this debate because he’s already got a huge hole to get out of.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      This guy is really just looking to set the record straight you see…

      Tonight, on the @MehdiHasanShow, I'll be joined by doctor and vaccine expert @PeterHotez, who'll be responding to Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and RFK Jr's nonsensical claims and challenges. He's been harassed today by anti-vaxxers at his home.Join us live from 8pm ET on @MSNBC: — Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) June 18, 2023

      • Atanarjuat

        Amazing. Complete with the fake victim claims.

  3. AlexinCT

    Comer Plans To Bring In ‘Key Witnesses’ In Biden Family Probe

    Most Americans already know the crooks are running the country. Some however can’t be bothered because it is their crook in charge. That’s how they get away with differential enforcement and the corrupt being protected while their enemies are prosecuted.

  4. Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

    Is anybody here a Freemason?

    I admittedly have no clue what they’re about, excepting all the conspiracy theories.

    • AlexinCT

      Are they the order that elects their leader based on who was the least likely to scream when donkey punched during some sex act?

    • Not Adahn

      No, but anyone who’s been in a fraternity formed in the 19th C. is at least Mason-adjacent ritual-wise.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        There are some activities that I grew out of. Wearing robes and participating in secret rituals is one of them.

      • R.J.

        LOTS of memorization of stanzas and documents to move up in the ranks. And potlucks once a week.

      • SDF-7

        A moose bit my sister once…

        (to be fair, she probably liked it…)

        (Note: No actual sisters dated a Moose to my knowledge. Any resemblance to moose living or dead is purely coincidental. Offer void where prohibited by law. Consult your doctor if side effects from moose bites occur. The lawyer responsible for this fine print has been sacked.)

      • waffles

        I’m a sigma nu. it was a VMU frat founded just after the Civil War. The ritualistic trappings were pretty light, inconsequential. I imagine masons et al are similar. I think ritual is fun.

      • waffles

        we never actually made anyone fuck the donkey.

      • Not Adahn

        Unreconstructed and myself are also Snakes.

      • AlexinCT

        Is this some Harry Potter reference? I admit, I am not well versed about tat stuff, but I do recall people all talking about some snake shit in those movies/books.

      • waffles

        sigma nu has a black and gold snake as its emblem. they gave us nice pins when we graduated that look sharp on a blazer lapel.

      • waffles

        nice. I think some of the self-governance, self-determination stuff from the frat definitely influenced my personal politics.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        So they fucked the donkey voluntarily? That’s sick.

      • Sean

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • Not Adahn

        So we did have an active Mason pledge and he would point out the cut-and-paste from his copy of the Monitor. And it shows up in the artwork too.

        http://nu.semosigmanu.com/paintings.asp

    • Ted S.

      “A biological woman (meaning an individual who was assigned female at birth) cannot be a Mason,” the opinion reads.

      Nope. Sex is determined at conception.

      • The Last American Hero

        Therefore sex is conceptual…

    • Brawndo

      From what I can see, they just eat waffles and drink coffee at the local diner

      • The Last American Hero

        That’s what they WANT you to think.

        And I guess that mobsters just eat pasta and drink wine at the local restaurant in the back booth.

    • rhywun

      They’re just glorified men’s clubs nowadays. Started as guilds if I’m not mistaken.

      But most of them are pretty strict on the whole Christian thing so tuff luck to that complainer in the article.

      • Not Adahn

        Also, there is a women’s auxillary organization, so maybe they could just switch? Surely if they can change gender, they can change memberships.

      • Tres Cool

        I believe Eastern Star is the female counterpart to the Masons. OG-1X-OG was one.
        The indoctrination courses are DeMolay for boys, Rainbow Girls for, well….girls

      • Not Adahn

        Yup.

      • The Last American Hero

        Do they borrow the donkey for initiation?

  5. AlexinCT

    The Media Lied About Trump Not Picking Up the Check in A Miami Cafe

    Shortened it to make it easier to digest.

    • SDF-7

      “The Media Lied” suffices. Mornin’ all.

      • DrOtto

        “The Media Lie”

  6. AlexinCT

    Illinois struggles with ballooning cost of healthcare for illegal immigrants, estimate passes $1 billion

    By now we all should understand that claiming to be a sanctuary whatever is easy when you let others foot the bill for it.

    • Rat on a train

      “I was for it but didn’t think I would be paying for it.”
      I should have bookmarked that video.

  7. Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

    Two Californians – Kayla Lovdahl and Chloe Cole – are now suing Kaiser Permanente for “gender affirming” procedures performed on them as minors, alleging “medical negligence” and ignorance of a large body of research on the risks of medicalized transitions.

    I pin some slight hopes on this, but I shouldn’t.

    • rhywun

      Also slight hopes… every cohort is backsliding on this stuff at least according to one poll.

      • Grosspatzer

        “In 2023, those with a college degree at 58% or a postgraduate degree at 53% are the least likely to agree with the gender binary.”

        The benefits of higher education.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        It’s probably got more to do with in-group signaling than anything else.

      • rhywun

        I’m surprised it’s that high, given the utter dominance of leftist groupthink there.

    • The Last American Hero

      Budweiser has been running commercials about how they support The Folded Flag Federation. Quite humorous.

  8. AlexinCT

    Supreme Court Considering If ‘Americans With Disabilities Act’ Covers Gender Dysphoria

    it should cover serious treatment for having a mental disorder.

    • SDF-7

      Once again Glibs prove that if brevity is the soul of wit… my wit is an undead soul-sucking vampire.

      I did keep it down to 4 paragraphs at least to say much the same thing.

      • AlexinCT

        My kid when he was four identified as a Velociraptor. Ran around chasing the cat all the time. How serious would anyone take me if I told them government should not only encourage his belief, but pay for surgery to give him green scales and a large head full of razor sharp teeth in addition to nasty claws so he could feel more like what he identified as?

      • SDF-7

        These days? I’m sure there are plenty of purple haired kindergarten teachers just itchy to screech at you about honoring His Truth.

        Of course, they’d also insist to him that he must be a Vegan Velociraptor — shortly before he disemboweled them with his toe claw. Clever boy.

      • Tres Cool

        What if someday he hooked up with Lobster Girl ?

      • Fatty Bolger

        My kid said he was going to take over the world some day. So I immediately enrolled him in art school, and taught him how to pound on a podium.

  9. Fourscore

    Morning Banjos,

    A lot of questions concerning the trans movement, in addition to the mental capacity of parents and the victims. Doctors and lawyers and ordinary peoples’ opinions are certainly going to confusing and confused.

  10. SDF-7

    Supreme Court Considering If ‘Americans With Disabilities Act’ Covers Gender Dysphoria

    Part of me thinks — if ADHD and other “on the spectrum” mental issues shouldn’t be discriminated against where reasonable, probably.

    Another part of me says “Wait.. why the hell can’t you discriminate against ADHD or whatnot if it actually makes a difference in job performance?” (Theoretical… I’m sure there are scenarios).

    And most of me says “God I sure as fuck hope not — because holy hell is that going to open things up to ‘You must pay for my genital mutilation!'”

    I’d have much less of a problem with covering it if the treatment was actually a treatment — but as mentioned here and elsewhere, the current medical consensus is right up there with “I believe I should have been in a wheelchair all along… cut off my legs!” “Durrrr. ok!” Actual mental health threatment for this would be reasonable, accommodation sure as hell isn’t it. Not for the doctors, not for society.

    • AlexinCT

      Another part of me says “Wait.. why the hell can’t you discriminate against ADHD or whatnot if it actually makes a difference in job performance?” (Theoretical… I’m sure there are scenarios).

      Don’t worry Scro!

    • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

      The objective appears to be to have everyone with a disability of some sort. Everybody’s a victim. Nobody can be fired. Everybody can sue.

      I hate it.

      • SDF-7

        That’s just a manifestation of your Split Personality Transporter Accident Syndrome.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        Lies! That other guy is an impostor.

    • Not Adahn

      IIRC, there have been incidents of “transabled” individuals getting doctors to blind them.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        An urge to claw your own eyes out would seem to be the very definition of severely mentally ill and deserving of institutionalization.

    • Gustave Lytton

      It’s not even that. The case is about whether a former male inmate can sue for not continuing to be placed on the women’s section of prison, supposed treatment was delayed/denied, and was misgendered by staff.

      I bet the usual ADA lawsuit parasites are chomping at the bit to sue over not providing gender inclusive bathrooms if it does fall under ADA. I travel a lot and have yet to see anyone using those now required pool devices. Or ADA compliant crosswalks in anywhere other than a downtown core in large cities. Yet millions have been wasted in compliance and the world is worse off and less safer for it.

    • waffles

      but what if I do believe I should have unfettered access to pharmaceutical-grade stimulants?

    • The Last American Hero

      I’ve had 2 subordinates that were aspy that were hired by the company. Nice enough guys, smart, and they wanted to do well – but neither could not deal with customers due to the social IQ issues. It was constant putting out of fires for managers. They also both had a tendency to take forever to complete projects because the attention to detail was taken to an extreme. That’s tough in a line of work where deadlines and hourly time budgets rule the day. In neither case did the situation work in the long term. One was termed, the other left of his own accord, but would have been termed if he stuck around another 6 months.

  11. Gustave Lytton

    Supreme Court Considering If ‘Americans With Disabilities Act’ Covers Gender Dysphoriais even constitutional.

    A man can dream. Fuck Bush Sr.

    • SDF-7

      Heh… that got a chuckle out of me and I can not disagree with you.

    • PieInTheSky

      Everything is constitutional if you read the commerce clause a sufficient number of times. Or so is my understanding of the US constitution.

      • Not Adahn

        You have an excellent understanding of the US Constitution.

      • DrOtto

        You seem to be both a gentleman and a constitutional scholar.

    • Not Adahn

      So does that get them a mistrial based on their lawyer being cray-cray or is that just for politically favored defendants?

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m not sure she was representing the individual defendants at the criminal trials. Probably not.

    • Tres Cool

      She has crazy eyes, but also a Tejas girl. Helps that her old man is locked up for 18 years.

      Likely wood.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Top Trump prosecutor Karen Gilbert has checkered past

    Feature > bug

  13. Rebel Scum

    Congressional investigators will have “key figures” appear for depositions in an investigation into allegations of influence peddling levied against President Joe Biden and his family, according to a top Republican lawmaker.

    *yawn*

    • creech

      “The walls are closing in!”

    • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

      A celebration of mental illness, brought to you by your tax dollars.

      • Homple

        They want cake.

    • RBS

      FADEL: Coleman is transgender, and he educates people on social media about his experience, especially with pregnancy.

      COLEMAN: Especially for someone like me who is also Black, also low-income, things of that nature.

      Beyond parody. JFC.

      • rhywun

        The trifecta.

    • Rebel Scum

      If you were pregnant and gave birth you are female. There is a different holiday for you. It’s called Mother’s Day.

      • The Other Kevin

        This person has figured out how to game the system.

      • dbleagle

        Twice the days, twice the presents!

  14. Rebel Scum

    Joe Rogan challenged a professor at Baylor College of Medicine Saturday to debate 2024 presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. after he claimed that Kennedy’s stance on vaccines was “misinformation.”

    Apparently other people have offered money to charity as well. But the vax pusher won’t do it.

    • Not Adahn

      To be fair, “vaccines cause autism” is about as close to being a proved negative as you can get.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Not really. There have been exactly zero clinical trials conducted to evaluate the link between the administration of multiple vaccines and autism. The government and media likes to holdup strawman crazies like Jenny McCarthy and the fabricated Lancet study as a redirection. The reaction to COVID should have woken up everyone to fallacy of following the status quo messaging without questioning.

        There is evidence that administering multiple vaccines at once to young children can cause an inflammatory cascade reaction that either directly causes autism (the Hannah Poling case is a striking example that has been repressed) or significantly increases the likelihood. The inflammatory cascade is likely associated with a mitochondrial deficiency that occurs in approximately 2% of the population. This mechanism of action and link was announced by the head of the CDC during an interview on CNN.

        Autism is likely a descriptor for several diseases with separate causes that present similarly. Vaccines have nothing to do with a percentage of cases. There is growing evidence and an established MOA that a severe reaction to receiving multiple vaccines administered in a short period of time is associated or directly causing a substantial proportion of cases.

      • Not Adahn

        That Lancet fraud is not a strawman, it’s literally the origin of the meme. The mechanism of the causation keeps changing, now we’re at inflammation because all the previous attempts at proving the base idea were debunked. When inflammation is negated, I’m sure there will be another proposed mechanism, rather than a willingness to let go of the idea.

      • Count Potato

        I have no idea if it has anything to do with autism, but the vaccine schedule for kids is three times as big as it was 40 years ago.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        That’s simply not true. The PI for the Lancet study was conman who jumped onto the already existing cause. He did not create it.

        It’s not clear to me at all the mechanism keeps changing. Rather there are likely several different mechanism since autism is a single descriptor for several diseases that present similarly. As the number of simultaneously administered vaccines increases at younger ages, I would anticipate the number cases from this mechanism increasing proportionally. Genetics plays a role in some cases. Environment plays a role in others.

        If you are unfamiliar with autism research, I suggest starting with the Hannah Poling case to get some perspective. Read through the various CDC schedules over the past 40 years to understand the changes. What children have received in the past 20 years is mind blowing compared to what we received as children. Watch the interview with the head of CDC discussing this exact issue and admitting it’s associated with autism before leaving the CDC to join the head of Merck’s vaccine department. Read a few of the dozens of articles out there on the link between mitochondrial deficiencies and autism.

        I am not saying vaccines cause autism. I am saying that autism is group of several diseases with different causes. There is evidence showing one of these autism-related diseases may occur as a result of a severe reaction occurring in children with a specific mitochondrial deficiency due to a severe reaction from receiving multiple vaccines simultaneously at too young of an age. There is not strong enough evidence out there for any research to definitively say vaccines cause autism or that vaccines do not cause autism. Just like with Covid, research on this subject has been strongly suppressed. But the data that is out there is suggestive enough to make any rational person want to investigate further. I don’t see how anyone could read the Hannah Poling case and not ask…”Well although this case doesn’t show anything, what’ being described is very disturbing… what happened here?”. And then the exact same scenario is echoed by tens of thousands of parents. I’ve had health care providers relate this scenario to me about their own patients, completely unprompted, during my own research. Yet that entire line of questioning has been shutdown. It’s as far away from the scientific method as one can get.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Rogan screenshotted the tweet Hotez made mocking the amount offered to charity.

    • PieInTheSky

      There is no point in debate when you are right…

      • PieInTheSky

        To be fair, just because someone want to debate you does not mean you should do it.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        It also doesn’t mean that anyone should give you any credence after you refuse to.

        And if you refuse to debate, I don’t think you can call yourself a “scientist” any more.

      • AlexinCT

        CON-SENSE-SUS!

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        Emphesis on the SUS.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Maybe also don’t be the little rat bastard that started it in the first place.

      • PieInTheSky

        the general argument on this is that debating is a skill and not one necessary for a scientist, so there is no point in debating if you do not have the skill

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I do expect scientists to defend their positions.

      • Rat on a train

        That’s not how SCIENCE! works.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        The scientific process is nothing but a rigorous and highly formalized form of debate.

        Now if you were to argue that what passes for debate in today’s schools has nothing to do with science, or reality for that matter, I’d agree with you.

        But what RFK and Rogan are proposing is more akin to a conversation. Hotez puts himself out there as a foremost expert on the matter, why is he afraid to sit down with someone who challenges his positions? He should be able to mop the floor with RFK.

        I’ll note that this phenomenon is not restricted to Hotez. None of the vax-pushers will engage in any format where they have to answer challenging questions.

      • Pine_Tree

        “Now if you were to argue that what passes for debate in today’s schools has nothing to do with science, or reality for that matter, I’d agree with you.”

        Hear, hear.

        If I see “debate” on a resume, it goes in the trash (for Engineering / technical positions). I need people who can solve problems, figure out what’s really going on, question their assumptions, take inputs from different and conflicting sources, evaluate trade-offs, etc.

        Being a debater drives failure on all of that. They’re basically trained to pile words on top of words and never concede anything. And if pressed, their arguments get increasingly esoteric and goalpost-move-ey to try to twist the discussion into something odd and diversionary.

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        The problem is that SCIENCE!! is now moving into the realm of religion. You see it invoked here in just that way “I don’t need to prove/defend my point, I am the gate-keeper!” Hotez wears the mark of the new priestly class, a PhD behind his name.

      • Not Adahn

        Nah, you don’t have to acquiesce to anyone’s demands, especially not when they control the format/framing/editing etc.

        If someone demands I choose a side, I choose the side that doesn’t demand I choose a side.

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        Then set your terms for participation.

        Everyone else can then determine if you’re being reasonable.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Weird, if I have to choose a side it’s not the guy who was wrong about the most recent big thing.

      • Not Adahn

        You are insufficiently contrarian then.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        That did sting a little.

  15. hayeksplosives

    Mark Steyn, bless him, might not be with us for a lot longer. He had a couple of heart attacks around Christmas but I had thought he recovered completely.

    But I’m listening to his podcast now and he said “As many of you have deduced I’m not in hreat shape, but I have one last battle in me because the death of free speech will plunge our world into darkness.”

    Steyn has taken on anti-speech outfits in Canada, America, and Britain. He has never NEVER settled out of court. But the process is the punishment and his enemies in the deep state are trying to kill him with bureaucracy.

    Go buy something from his website. He has put not only his money but his entire being where his mouth is.

    https://www.steynonline.com/13564/jumping-the-tracks

    • hayeksplosives

      LOLZ.

      Steyn just referred to Biden as the “dead husk of a moth-eaten sock puppet.”

    • hayeksplosives

      Holy hannah. That is terrific news!!!

      • AlexinCT

        They are doing this after Germany decommissioned their plants and had to stand up a nasty coal burning facility? The French must be fucking with them.

      • creech

        The Guns of August 1914 are still remembered in France.

      • Lackadaisical

        It’s everything to do with France not wanting to be forced to replace reliable nuclear sources with unreliable’green’ options

      • The Last American Hero

        So the French are…saving Europe?

        Strange times.

    • Rat on a train

      Germany, Austria and Luxembourg were among member states who had opposed recognising “low carbon” energy sources such as nuclear in the EU’s rules on renewable energy, fearing that it could detract investment away from other options such as wind and solar power.

      Grifting is more important than carbon reduction.

      • AlexinCT

        The green movement is about a horrible lie to scare idiots into letting the rich fleece the rest of us even harder.

    • Grosspatzer

      Excellent. Might be a bit late to compensate for the recent loss of carbon based energy generation, though.

    • Fatty Bolger

      That is awesome.

  16. Rebel Scum

    The Media Lied About Trump Not Picking Up the Check in A Miami Cafe

    *shocked face*

  17. Not Adahn

    I discovered that Arnie has a new show on Netflix. Did he do it because he was bored, because he needed the money, because he hadn’t had any young PAs to chase or what?

    First episode was… not promising. It was like True Lies: The Series, but instead of a husband/wife thing, it’s father/daughter, in which the daughter will probably be the modern audiences girlboss. To be fair, Arnie isn’t completely incompetent and dependent on her to save him yet, but it’s on Netflix (though made by Skydancer, so maybe there’s hope?)

    • Gustave Lytton

      The parts about him fucking up his family life seemed a little fourth wall breaking. Also, the chick pilot from Top Gun.

      • Not Adahn

        I have a great deal of residual youthful affection for his work.

        To me he was the American dream: arrive in the US with nothing but ambition, a strong work ethic and a high tolerance for steroids and in one generation become rich, famous, and marry a Kennedy.

      • Lackadaisical

        Yeah, the family drama is a little on the nose.

        The show is meh, but like not adahn, I have a residual respect for him.

        My suggestion? Watch Conan the barbarian instead, of they still have it up.

    • The Last American Hero

      Sort of related but not really.

      I almost fell out of my chair yesterday when I saw Blazing Fucking Saddles is streaming in Prime.

  18. Rebel Scum

    Illinois struggles with ballooning cost of healthcare for illegal immigrants, estimate passes $1 billion

    If only there was some solution to the presence of illegal aliens.

  19. Rebel Scum

    Uh…

    Biden makes a bizarre joke to crickets in the audience, then asks, “Alright, where we going?”

    • DrOtto

      Lump looks even more confused than Traitor Joe in that skit.

      • creech

        Hey, a little more respect for “my” senator. Fetterman may appear dumb, and his wife is probably a commie, but he’s better /sarc/ than some accomplished heart surgeon who sought and got Trump’s endorsement.

      • Sensei

        AKA a RINO NJ resident.

        Glad I didn’t have to make that awful choice, but it speaks to how awful Team Red as an organization is in PA.

      • waffles

        Fettermen is my senator. He represents ME.

      • Pine_Tree

        I thought he was from PA, not ME…

    • The Other Kevin

      Those bizarre clips are coming faster and faster. At this point it will save everyone time if they just tweet out the few times he’s coherent.

    • AlexinCT

      That stuff looks inaccurate to me… They are not representing the gangbangers well.

    • SDF-7

      First instinctual reaction — “It is always about the blood with you, Pie!” 😉

      Second — “Ah, racial purity is cool as long as it is the right race. They just need a snazzier name for it like La Raza and all…”

      • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

        I was going to go with “Aryan”

    • Rat on a train

      Must maintain O- purity!

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        + one +

    • Rebel Scum

      Now imagine that promoting protecting a Caucasian line…

    • Atanarjuat

      Black racist online teenagers are as dumb as any other. “I’m going to make sure my great-grandchildren don’t marry outside their race!” But they are pretty funny. One black chick was calling us Euromutts “palm colored people”.

  20. Rebel Scum

    What codes?

    Democrat accidentally says Trump “should be shot – stopped.”

    That’s quite the slip there.

    • The Other Kevin

      That’s next.

    • The Last American Hero

      The response about Utah is funny.

      Even funnier is that if you trimmed 8 inches off each side of the court, everything would be fine.

  21. Tres Cool

    whaddup doh’
    whats goody

  22. The Late P Brooks

    the general argument on this is that debating is a skill and not one necessary for a scientist, so there is no point in debating if you do not have the skill

    He’s skillful enough at pulling numbers out of his ass. Let him come on and tell us how he came up with them.

    • hayeksplosives

      Mutha fucka.

      During the COVID lockdowns, i stopped taking all of my medications except my anti-seizure drugs.

      Got much better all across the board. Pharma can suck it.

      • Atanarjuat

        As Creosote Achilles says “to think I used to argue that a business has an incentive to not kill their customers”.

      • The Other Kevin

        Doesn’t apply when the federal government forces every human in the country to be a customer.

      • The Last American Hero

        The idea isn’t to kill, but like a drug dealer, keep your marks on the hook dependent to keep the cash flowing.

  23. PieInTheSky

    The way the ultra-conservative right are dominating discourse in this country, even as the public’s attitudes increasingly become more liberal, should be a warning to progressives that we are losing this fight and need to change course

    https://twitter.com/elliemaeohagan/status/1670709169362464769

    But I thought it is Islamophobic to criticize that particular “ultra-conservative right”

    • AlexinCT

      So the argument is that because the right keeps winning arguments they left needs to double down on censorship?

      That’s how you authoritarian hardcore…

    • rhywun

      LOL what color is the sky in that person’s world.

    • Rebel Scum

      ultra-conservative right

      Aka “average conservative/libertarian/non-leftist.

      public’s attitudes increasingly become more liberal…we are losing this fight

      Then public attitudes are not becoming more liberal.

      • Zwak , who will swing for the crime, in double time!

        They would be winning that fight if public attitudes were becoming more liberal.

  24. hayeksplosives

    i might have to call in a heart attack or something today.

    Could really use a day off.

  25. Atanarjuat

    https://www.idahotribune.org/news/un-happy-fathers-day-pervert-killed-in-kellogg-idaho-after-police-and-school-admins-took-no-action

    TL;DR version: high school kid with history of rapey behavior jerks off in front of neighbor kids. Cops do nothing and the second time it happens the neighbor dad goes over and kills everyone in the house.

    This is one of those incidents where liberals and conservatives instinctively fall on different sides of it (judging by the replies). I don’t have much sympathy for the parents whose child had a history of behaving this way. They should have stopped it somehow. The perv’s brother, well…

    • AlexinCT

      The problem is that the people that make the laws empathize with the fucking pervert (they are highly likely to be perverts themselves) and desperately want to make sure nobody dares to take the law into their own hand cause it could be them in the crosshairs.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    Wagons were circled

    Mark Cuban—Shark Tank star, billionaire entrepreneur, and owner of both the Dallas Mavericks and Cost Plus Drugs—waded into a chaotic Twitter brawl about vaccines on Sunday involving some big names—including Tesla CEO Elon Musk, the world’s richest man.

    It centered around Spotify podcaster Joe Rogan challenging a medical expert—Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine and professor of pediatrics and molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine—to enter a debate about vaccines on his show. That came in response to Hotez sharing a Vice article from Friday entitled “Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogan’s Vaccine Misinformation.”

    ——-

    Twitter owner Musk then tweeted, “He’s afraid of a public debate, because he knows he’s wrong.”

    Hotez replied, “Seriously Elon? This is monstrous. 200,000 Americans needlessly perished (including 40,000 Texans, our neighbors) because they were victims of antivaccine disinformation during our awful Covid delta/BA.1 waves in 2021-22. Please don’t do this…”

    Hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman unexpectedly joined in, tweeting, “I will add $150,000 to @joerogan’s wager so now $250,000 can go to charity and the public can hear an open debate on an important topic.”

    Tom Nichols, a staff writer at The Atlantic, tweeted about the invitation: “No medical professional should ever agree to do this. Never. It elevates the conspiracy guy, demeans the medical professional, and will only convince the kooks out there that RFK is right because a real doctor took the time to debate him.”

    ——-

    At this point, Cuban, whose Cost Plus Drugs aims to lower the cost of generic drugs, weighed in:

    “Way to talk in generalities Joe. Not saying there aren’t a lot of f***ed up things about pharma. That’s why we created Cost Plus Drugs. But to ignore that the same industry has saved who knows how many lives is bullshit and you know it. It’s also disrespectful to all the doctors, researchers and medical professionals that dedicate their lives to saving lives, like Dr Hotez and the 800k plus doctors in the country that believe vaccines save lives.”

    Nice appeals to authority, Fortune. Why don’t ou ask Hotez to back that 200k number up, just in the interest of science? And why would anybody think Cuban knows any more about medicine than Rogan?

    • PieInTheSky

      Well just like Science in general the industry is not a monolith. The scientism fuckers are the ones who are pushing the it is. You should be able to separate things that work from those that don’t, not a take it all or leave it all proposition

    • DrOtto

      Because as an owner of Cost Plus Drugs, he probably has no horse in this race.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Big pharma is good, which is why I have created Cost Plus Drugs to fight back against big pharma.

    • AlexinCT

      If it is what people call soft sciences, you know the quackery that has shit to do with anything logical or scientific, my assumption is that odds are 99.9999% that it is just bullshit. Especially when it has a political/ideological bent favoring the left.

  27. CPRM

    Squirrel With A Gun, the next big gaming franchise or just a shitty indie game with a fun premise? Discuss.

    • SDF-7

      Dammit, now we know what Skynet has been up to with the Server Squirrels!

      (ba-ba-bum-bum-BUM-BUM)

    • SDF-7

      Dammit, CPRM… now I have that earworm of a theme song going through my head! ;P

      It does look cute though — reminds me of Untitled Goose Game in that it looks like you’ll have collection / object missions at a glance. My son probably would enjoy it to no end, I’ll have to keep it in mind. Like the use of recoil physics to get the squirrel where it wants to go.

    • Not Adahn

      A Fed carrying a Hi-Power in this day and age?

  28. The Late P Brooks

    [Cuban] then laid into Musk as well, contending that Rogan and Musk’s Twitter “are the mainstream online media and your platforms have become everything supposedly wrong with MSM [mainstream media].”

    He added, “You are driven by self interest. Just like the MSM always has been accused of. And you both have earned that right. You busted your asses to be great at what you do and earned all you have accomplished. But don’t lie to yourselves and all of us and tell us you are different. You aren’t.”

    It wouldn’t be a story about Mark Cuban without a big helping of nonsensical jibber jabber.

    • AlexinCT

      Cuban is bought & paid for by the CCP.

      • PieInTheSky

        Also he sucks as Mavericks owner, dumb trades, dumb signings.

  29. PieInTheSky

    The Material Basis for Cozy Horror

      • PieInTheSky

        Also the take of “Starship troopers = nazi” is as stupid as always

      • AlexinCT

        Any system of accountability or that is meritocratic, is Nazi these days

      • The Last American Hero

        Rush’s 2112 was deemed fascist back in the 70’s for being mean to authoritarians, plus the songs like Anthem and Something for Nothing, and credits to Ayn Rand in the liner notes got them labeled by some publications.

      • Pine_Tree

        I didn’t know this was a thing.

      • PieInTheSky

        it has been for decades

      • Pine_Tree

        Why? I’ve never read any navel-gazing sci-fi analysis. Is it just what Alex mentioned above?

      • PieInTheSky

        militarist = fascist ; voting is conditional = fascist; not leftis-= fascist; stuff i don’t like = fascist; etc

      • Not Adahn

        It’s based on the Verhoeven movie.

      • PieInTheSky

        not in the context I linked .

      • PieInTheSky

        “The blueprint for this type of writing was first laid down by Robert Heinlein whose Starship Troopers can best be summarised ‘But what if the Nazis had been cool about Filipinos?’”

        e deeply stupid statement overall

      • Not Adahn

        My contention is, nobody who read that book without being aware of the movie would have made the Nazi connection. Only if you’ve seen/heard about the movie would you get that from the reading, since there is no Nazi symbology/philosophy in it.

      • slumbrew

        There was no movie when I read the book and, as you say, there was nothing in it that made me think of Nazis.

        I’m sure Tunnel In The Sky is about the Hitler Youth to the author of the article.

    • Ted S.

      Cool link, bro!

      • PieInTheSky

        it is not my fault wordpress is stupid

  30. The Late P Brooks

    You should be able to separate things that work from those that don’t, not a take it all or leave it all proposition

    Yeas, and if you claim something works, that claim should be subject to verification. And just because it has some chance for success on some sliver of the population, that doesn’t justify forcing it onto everyone.

    *not saying that is your position, Pie

    • PieInTheSky

      Sure. I was just reminded of the most idiotic thing I heard from high priest Degrasse Tyson how you cannot “cherry pick science”, if you take antibiotics you should also take the covid vax or something.

      • Atanarjuat

        That quote is, as typical for NDT, insufferable.

      • Lackadaisical

        That’s pretty close to his take, almost verbatim.

  31. Count Potato

    “Parents have been left furious after schools in New York were told to keep their children’s gender identities secret from their families under new guidance.

    The New York State Education Department released 42 pages of new guidance last week which told schools to ‘keep information’ about a child’s gender identity ‘from families if they deem it necessary’.

    The report also calls for schools to end the practice of separating boys and girls during physical education as it ‘marginalizes’ transgender and ‘gender expansive’ students and marks them as ‘others’.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12210313/Fury-New-York-schools-told-childrens-gender-identities-secret-families.html

    Gender expansive?

    • Not Adahn

      Gender expansive?

      A new euphemism for “fat.”

    • creech

      If telling parents is dangerous, how much more dangerous is it for schools to withhold information that will ultimately come out anyway?

      • AlexinCT

        When I was a kid the general knowledge was that any adult that told you they had some fun activity they wanted to do but you had to promise not to tell other adults was a fucking pervert and needed to be reported. Today this is the de facto position of the left. I am 100% certain the assumption they want to hide it because they know what they are doing is wrong, bears out.

      • The Other Kevin

        They are actively trying to break down all norms and rules in society because those are “conservative” and therefore bad. So they know what they’re doing.

    • rhywun

      New guidance also calls to end PE gender separation so ‘LGBTQ pupils aren’t marginalized’

      Further evidence that T has completely taken over the alphabet. Sex-separated PE was never an issue before the trans hysteria ramped up.

      And this is exactly the kind of thing that could, and should, provoke the backlash we saw in the poll I mentioned above.

      • PieInTheSky

        PE is fatphobic

      • Count Potato

        Sad thing, it isn’t the T’s pushing it.

    • Rebel Scum

      Keeping secrets about children from the parents should result in corporal punishment for the teachers and admin involved.

      • Lackadaisical

        They’ve already been doing this in regards to birth control and so forth. Not really surprising, but a nice reminder to never ever return to NY.

    • AlexinCT

      I find it hilarious how college educated dumb ass people, especially these liberal women (and that includes the soy-boys), always come around to marxist tropes to blame failures caused by their policies.

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, this is one heck of a self own by these idiots. Their champion is a guy that raped a 14 year old, killed the 14 year old, then raped the corpse a few more times for good measures. I guess they want it to be that when you think tranny you should think child corpse rapist.

    • Atanarjuat

      That note was different a few days ago. I remember it made specific mention of the raping of the child’s corpse.

      I still maintain that Community Notes will somehow be hijacked to become worse than Politifact within the next 2 years.

  32. The Other Kevin

    “Supreme Court Considering If ‘Americans With Disabilities Act’ Covers Gender Dysphoria”
    It does not. Next question.

    “Healthcare providers may think twice about giving young people puberty blockers or other drug or surgeries, amid growing litigation by former patients who desisted from gender confusion.”
    The backlash seems to be coming along nicely. Excellent. ::drums fingertips together::

    Hope all you Glib dads had a great Father’s Day. My day was spend setting up the new gym. 5 days in, we have everything bolted to the floor that needs boltin’, the flooring is mostly done, and all the equipment is in the building. Mostly lots of cleaning and rearranging now, plus many of the weights are rusty and they need some TLC.

    • The Last American Hero

      So it was a mental illness, then a totally natural thing, and now its a disability?

  33. Evan from Evansville

    Ev is about to go a clinic where I am going to talk to a clinician. We’re going to talk. I’m going to focus on being honest, listening and learning. No decision to be made today. Possibly in-patient time. Out-patient or a mix is also possible.

    I am not going to go full on with the quasi-suicidal thoughts. I don’t really have them. It’s more of an inside joke about how I’d do it to not make a mess. I’ve had that thought for a long time. I’ve never hurt myself (on purpose) or used a drug w a needle. My drug/alcohol use is excessive.

    This will be difficult. I had a VERY rare cry session, in private on purpose, about all the shit that’s wrong with me and what can and will go further wrong with me. Well. I’m on my feet for now, even though I resigned from the paper a week ago. The stress amplified my epilepsy symptoms. Living in my own apartment was great and dangerous. I think I need eyes on me.

    Many things. Depression is the worst. Hrm. The symptoms worsening coincides pretty well with a large increase in oxycarbazepine. Suspiciously.

    Well. Wish me luck glibs. Big step needs to happen. Gonna be a rough day and road.

    Hope everyone lands in the right spot for y’all and yours.

    ev

    • R.J.

      I wish you all the luck Evan.

    • PieInTheSky

      best of luck

    • Sean

      “Good luck, dear Evan,
      May your path be bright and true,
      Fortune smiles on you.”

      -BAI chatbot

    • Gender Traitor

      Take care, Evan.

    • DEG

      Best wishes

    • Count Potato

      Good luck!

    • The Other Kevin

      Good luck Evan. My middle kid checked herself in for a few days one time. It was the best way to get her meds right. When she got out she did a lot better. But recently she’s decided to stop all her meds, and that’s not going well for her. It’s hard to ask for help, but we all need to sometimes.

  34. PieInTheSky

    Aha, aha, ahahaha. “Green jobs require higher skills. Expanding and investing in these jobs will help raise productivity.” Productivity is value of output divided by labour hours to produce it. More workers for same value of ‘leccie reduces productivity. That’s definitional.

    https://twitter.com/worstall/status/1670716062717837312

    • AlexinCT

      More useless overpaid people that add zero value?

  35. kinnath

    Eight days without reading a story about Trump or Biden.

  36. Sean

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    Blossom Puzzle, June 19
    Letters: E G L S P R U
    My score: 315 points
    My longest word: 10 letters
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    Play Blossom:
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    • kinnath

      Daily Quordle 511
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    • rhywun

      Daily Quordle 511
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      Daily Quordle 511
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      My score: 372 points
      My longest word: 11 letters
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      Play Blossom:
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/word-games/blossom-word-game

  37. DEG

    Since then the program has been expanded twice and now covers those aged 42 and older. Some Democrats are pushing to expand that to everyone older than 19 but there’s a problem. The estimated cost of the program has expanded much more quickly than anyone expected.

    You get what you voted for.

    • Ted S.

      The estimated cost of the program has expanded much more quickly than anyone expected.

      The people who expected it and should be vindicated now were accused of disinformation when they pointed out the cost increase, weren’t they?

  38. PieInTheSky

    The debunker’s delusion

    Fact-checking and anti-disinformation have fallen victim to the disease they sought to eradicate

    https://thecritic.co.uk/the-debunkers-delusion/

    Such was the case in the latest missive from the BBC’s answer to Taylor Lorenz. Marianna Spring. Her programme, “Marianna in Conspiracyland”, focuses on the growth of what she calls the “conspiracy movement” in the town of Totnes, a countercultural market town beloved of hippies, and the popularisation of the conspiracy newspaper “The Light” in the community. It’s a fascinating story, and could have made a compelling and powerful BBC documentary.

    Unfortunately, Marianna did not so much gild the lily, as commission a golden facsimile of the lily

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Fail

    An unusually candid North Korea has said the botched launch of a military satellite last month was the “gravest failure” but it vowed it would soon succeed in its quest, state media reported on Monday.

    North Korea’s ruling party made the assessment of its May 31 launch at a three-day meeting that ended on Sunday, ordering workers and researchers to analyse the mission that ended with the rocket and its spy satellite pay load plunging into the sea, and to prepare for another launch soon.

    Something tells me accountability is real, in North Korea.

    • creech

      I wonder what happened to the person who recommended the wrong kind of gasket in the “Challenger” disaster? I’m betting he (or she) got promoted several times and is living off a nice, fat government pension today.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Officials “who irresponsibly conducted preparations” for the failed launch were “bitterly criticised” at the meeting, the KCNA state news agency reported.

    This ditch is full of dead people. Why did you bring me here?

  41. PieInTheSky

    Billionaires now hold so much of the world’s wealth, their apologists argue, there’s no choice but to rely on them for philanthropy. But we can’t take our eyes off the ball: We need to tax the ultrarich out of existence.

    https://twitter.com/jacobin/status/1670582918111182850

    • AlexinCT

      Envy, the marxist’s favorite deadly sin..

    • Gustave Lytton

      If we’re going to dredge up hackneyed already tried ideas, let’s start with kill a commie for mommy.

    • The Other Kevin

      … and then rely on politicians and bureaucrats for philanthropy.

      • Sean

        Pass.

  42. Count Potato

    What are some good movies for July 4th?

    • PieInTheSky

      the same movies that are good on any other day?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Traditional, cynical, or cheesy?

      • Count Potato

        Traditional, I guess.

    • Sean

      So, I asked BAI chatbot…

      There are many great movies to watch on July 4th! Here are a few suggestions:

      1. Independence Day (1996) – This classic science fiction film is all about an alien invasion that happens on July 4th, and it’s up to a group of people to save humanity.

      2. The Patriot (2000) – Set during the American Revolution, this epic war drama stars Mel Gibson as a farmer turned soldier who fights for independence.

      3. National Treasure (2004) – A fun adventure movie starring Nicolas Cage as a historian who goes on a treasure hunt to find a hidden stash of gold.

      4. Jaws (1975) – Although it’s not specifically related to Independence Day, this classic thriller takes place during the summer and features a terrifying shark that terrorizes a beach town.

      5. Born on the Fourth of July (1989) – This biographical war drama tells the story of Ron Kovic, a Vietnam War veteran who becomes an anti-war activist after being paralyzed in combat.

      These movies are just a few examples of great options to watch on July 4th, but there are many other patriotic and summer-themed films to choose from as well!

      LOL @ #4. Perfect.

      • Lackadaisical

        #5 sounds depressing as hell.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Oliver Stone and Tom Cruise!

      • dbleagle

        The musical “1776” is another Independence Day classic.

  43. Warty

    Well I didn’t think this was true until now

    In June 2022, the Defense Department released a fact sheet outlining its involvement in a program to reduce “legacy threats from nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons” in states that formerly made up the Soviet Union. It notes the U.S. provided support to 46 “peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites” that worked to promote human and animal health.

    The document also says the facilities are owned and operated by Ukraine, with the U.S. acting as a partner that provides equipment and other support. It says both nations have agreed to not develop nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

    “These facilities operate just like other state or local public health and research laboratories around the world,” the fact sheet says.

    (⊙_⊙’)

    • Lackadaisical

      Just regular bats in the local Ukrainian health clinic- just like your local county health clinic. Nothing to see here folks. 😛

    • one true athena

      Maybe we can write to putin and suggest he bomb those sites specifically

  44. The Late P Brooks

    One man’s shantytown…

    Russell City was bulldozed, the land was sold off to developers in 1967 and residents had to relocate. Decades later, the city of Hayward issued an apology for the destruction, and Knowles is part of an effort to study whether the land was seized improperly, and to make recommendations to local authorities about what they can do to atone for it.

    ——-

    “Everybody was warm, loving, kind, sharing, like a family, like a village,” said Johnson’s mother, Jessie Mae Johnson, 82, who first visited the neighborhood from Oklahoma when she was 14. At the time, Russell City had no running water or sewage but was filled with homes, businesses, churches, a school and a lively music scene, which is still commemorated with the Hayward Russell City Blues Festival.

    ——-

    Today, where Russell City once stood are now 200 acres of nondescript industrial warehouses. What is now loading docks for 18-wheelers was once a garden with farm animals tended by Johnson’s grandmother. A pet shop supply store sits where Knowles believes her grandfather’s auto body shop sat.

    Oral histories of the community have been passed on through families and annual reunion picnics, hosted for the past four decades by former residents and their families, many of whom now live in various parts of Alameda County.

    “I was always told to get my family’s land back,” Johnson said as she sits and reflects in her brother’s home perched on a hill in Oakland that overlooks the sprawling city about 20 miles away from Hayward. However, the lack of documentation to prove whether the county government acted illegally or improperly compensated residents has been a major hurdle for Russell City’s Black descendants looking for restitution.

    Long NBC tearjerker about urban removal project in California. Just like urban removal projects all over the country.

    What’s the solution? Don’t ask me. Learn from the past, I guess. Incessantly picking at festering wounds probably isn’t the path to long term harmony.

    • rhywun

      Picking at festering wounds is the whole point.

  45. Certified Public Asshat

    Juneteenth as a federal holiday is meant to breathe new life into the essence of America — to ensure everyone feels the power of the progress we can make. It marks the long, hard night of slavery – but the promise of that brighter morning to come.Happy Juneteenth, America. pic.twitter.com/9a2QgZgHem— President Biden (@POTUS) June 19, 2023

    But Delaware still had slaves?

    • Rebel Scum

      NJ did. The “Emancipation Proclamation” didn’t apply to Union held territory at the time of it’s signing.

  46. Rebel Scum
  47. The Late P Brooks

    Knowles said she knows there is a long way to go before any reparative recommendations can be made to ensure that the process remains inclusive of everyone who called Russell City home.

    Johnson is seeking justice through multiple avenues beyond the Russell City Reparative Justice Project. She is working with Where Is My Land, an advocacy group launched by activist Kavon Ward, who is credited for successfully pressing government agencies to return to the Bruce family its family land that sits on a pricey stretch of oceanfront property in Manhattan Beach.

    She and her brother Michael also brought the story of Russell City to the California Reparations Task Force as it forms recommendations to address slavery’s lingering harms against African Americans, including mass incarceration, health disparities and the devaluation of Black businesses. The task force is submitting recommendations to the state Legislature on July 1.

    If A, then alphabet.

    Jackpot!

  48. The Late P Brooks

    We need to tax the ultrarich out of existence.

    It’s a timeless classic.

  49. Tundra

    Boy is this fucked up:

    5 young women killed by reckless driver in Minneapolis

    And, once again:

    According to media reports, Derrick Thompson was sentenced to eight years in prison in 2020 for a 2018 crash in California that left a woman in a coma. He was fleeing police when he hit a pedestrian and then fled on foot, the reports say.

    Son of a former Dem pol.

    • rhywun

      My math might be off but I’d swear that 2020 + 8 is greater than 2023.

      • Tundra

        Yep. Story after story of scumbags who should have been in prison killing people. My city isn’t looking too good right now.

      • Sean

        You didn’t carry the social justice integer.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    While the SFSU researchers’ report has not yet been made public, the steering committee has contracted Ceres Policy Research, a racial justice consulting group, to help create policy recommendations for Hayward. Kerby Lynch, the Ceres Policy Research project manager, said that the descendants are deliberating how they want the information to be shared with the public. She sees reparative recommendations moving from race-based to “event-based.”

    “Ceres Policy Research, a racial justice consulting group”

    They misspelled “criminal enterprise”.

  51. Count Potato

    ““There were no doctors at the clinic, and the clinic’s manager, who decided which treatments the girls would receive, was a former Wendy’s manager with no prior medical experience. According to Shrier, when the employee took the girls’ medical histories, she noted that “a lot of them have serious emotional issues, a lot of them had a history of abuse.”

    https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1670606192983543808

    To be fair, most of the people involved couldn’t manage a Wendy’s.

    • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

      They should all be prosecuted into oblivion, but they won’t be.

  52. Count Potato

    “Trump turned your kids trans by weakening Clean Water Act rules

    Back in 2002, we had a study showing atrazine “demasculinizes” frogs, disrupting their endocrine system and altering their sexual maturation and functioning.

    Evidence grew stronger over time and this was seen as a lib point calling for stronger regulation.

    In the Obama years, liberal publications like Mother Jones argued that atrazine was turning male frogs into females and that this was evidence of likely harms to humans — conservatives denounced this as paranoid.

    Tyrone Hayes, the other of the sexual dysfunction in frogs study, was the subject of intense criticism from the makers and commercial users of atrazine and was covered in the New Yorker in 2014 as a hero scientist standing up to big business.”

    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1670769926284492801

    • Rebel Scum

      Back in 2002, we had a study showing atrazine “demasculinizes” frogs, disrupting their endocrine system and altering their sexual maturation and functioning.

      It turned the fricken frogs gay and your fricken kids trans. IOW, AJ was right.

    • Nerfherder (Non-Non-Man)

      Is this the first attempt to politically orphan the trans movement and blame it on conservatives?

    • slumbrew

      I did not have “Matt Yglesias echos with Alex Jones” on my bingo card, but here we are.

    • rhywun

      My biology might be off but I’d swear that frogs are not humans.