On Gaslighting

by | Aug 17, 2023 | Environment, Open Post, Rant | 201 comments

Recently I had a friend visit.  He used to live in Texas, but moved out of country.  I love my friend, but he gaslights. This summer, it was just too hot for him and he was obsessed with talking about global warming.

“The alps have no snow!”

OK, I don’t know about that. Whatever you say.

“Texas is boiling away!”

That one I could speak to.

“The heat has broken records in DFW!” Said the gaslighter.

Note: DFW is the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex in North Texas, for you non-Texans.

No, actually it has not.  The hottest temperatures recorded in DFW were in 1980.  I lived through 1980.  I remember. Here’s the chart from NOAA:

Rank Temperature Date
1
(tie)
113 Jun 27, 1980
113 Jun 26, 1980
3
(tie)
112 Jun 28, 1980
112 Aug 11, 1936
112 Aug 18, 1909
6 111 Sep 4, 2000
7
(tie)
110 Aug 2, 2011
110 Jul 12, 1998
110 Jul 18, 1980
110 Jul 2, 1980
110 Aug 16, 1943
110 Aug 10, 1936

The 2000s barely register any records.  Also I don’t know what is with that table color scheme.  It’s crazy.

“There have been more consecutive days of 100+ temperatures in DFW than ever before!” Said the gaslighter.

No, actually 1980 holds that distinction with 13 days in a row over 100.  Which isn’t even a good measurement, because we usually have close to 20 days over 100 degrees in an average summer. Just not consecutively.

All of this was fear mongering and gaslighting to support a belief system. And I hate it. Don’t let people around you get away with this spouting this kind of crap, you can bring up the numbers and show the truth. So suck it, fear porn mongers! At the very least, do it when kids are around, so they can see gaslighters sputter.  Question authority kids!

As an extra step, I decided to look at August average temperatures across the years since 1900.  Remarkably the same, fluctuating in decade-long sine waves from 82 to 92. No hockey stick rise. Or even a little upwards trend. Up and down.

Even more interesting, one of the coldest days in DFW history was in 2021.  It was -2 degrees F (-18 C for the Euros).  You have to go back to 1899 to the great Valentine’s Day Blizzard to see a colder day.

So when people start gaslighting about climate change to support their own misguided beliefs, feel free to bring up some data, tell them to stop praying to Al Gore and go live their lives.  You feel hot?  Go jump in a lake.  We built a lot of those in Texas.

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201 Comments

  1. Don escaped Texas

    hottest temperatures recorded in DFW everywhere were in 1980

    I spent most of it outside, camping even, wearing jeans: didn’t notice

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Don escaped Texas and wet jeans.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Id go to that concert

      • Don escaped Texas

        yeah: I didn’t know any better

        we wore that stuff 365

  2. ron73440

    Sounds like my boss.

    “It’s never been this hot!

    Climate change is real.”

    When I ask him about the unusually cool June we had, that doesn’t matter.

    • Don escaped Texas

      one of the coldest days in DFW history was in 2021. It was -2 degrees F

      that one datum could be a reasonable outcome of climate change; a lot of things could be

      my position has never changed: it takes more data than we could collect or process to model all the factors in play, so I’m agnostic: I don’t know because I don’t believe there is a comprehensive model

      and I expect no such model in my lifetime

      I don’t glom onto ideas that might be true

      • juris imprudent

        a comprehensive model

        Even if you had a model that was close to right, you have a paucity of data to feed it. We don’t have hundreds let alone thousands of years of actual data.

    • DEG

      When I ask him about the unusually cool June we had, that doesn’t matter.

      There is nothing climate change can’t do.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I mean, it literally changed from June to July.

  3. Not Adahn

    Speaking of gaslighting,

    This place is full of insular, suspicious and deceitful natives, with strange ways. Though with a decade of walking among them, I thought I had learned a few of them, such as: Utica pie is a pizza consisting of crust, tomato sauce and grated parmesan cheese.

    Then a local dive bar got renovated and got a website, upon which they posted a menu;

    Specialty Pizza
    Utica Style
    White Garlic Base, Sausage, Italian Long Hots, Italian Cheese Blend

    Somebody is wrong somewhere.

    • UnCivilServant

      There is no utica style.

      Utica barely has anything that might be regarded a culture. The town certainly doesn’t produce anything that might be regarded as good.

      • creech

        Wasn’t there a Utica Beer in the 60s? I remember it being exotic (in Philly area) but can’t remember if it was any good.

      • UnCivilServant

        I wasn’t around in the 60’s.

      • Nephilium

        Are you perhaps thinking of the brand that eventually evolved into Saranac and the Matt Brewing Company?

      • robc

        I don’t follow as closely anymore, with the changes made that allowed Yuengling to be classified as “craft”, did Matt also finally make the list?

      • Nephilium

        Not sure about that. I did see with Breckenridge being sold off, that they’re back to being considered “craft”.

        Interestingly enough, Matt Brewing did recently acquire Flying Dog (who left the BA due to first amendment issues).

      • robc

        Yes, saw that about Breckenridge. Had not heard about Flying Dog. What was the issue?

      • Nephilium

        robc:

        Flying Dog immediately left the BA after the BA instituted the policy that any beer with a offensive/misogynistic name/label would be prohibited from displaying their GABF medals (or mentioning them) on labeling or in association with the beer name. Despite the reassurances that none of their beers would be impacted by this rule, Flying Dog left the organization. This was recent to when they had just won their case in Michigan about Raging Bitch.

      • robc

        I figured it was something like that.

        Flying Dog needs to spend more time on their beers, and less on their marketing.

        I have always found them to be only slightly better than “meh”.

      • Nephilium

        robc:

        Well, that’s on Matt Brewing now. Flying Dog had some really good beers, and a lot of average ones. One of their best was a one off seasonal they did many years back called Wildeman. It was a dry hopped saison that was fucking amazing. A friend and I drank as much of it as we could get our hands on, and it never came back again.

      • DEG

        Saranac. I remember their stuff. I remember liking it.

      • Not Adahn

        Their pumpkin beer is good.

      • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

        “Their pumpkin beer is good.” – Not Adahn

        Somebody is wrong somewhere. – Not Adahn

      • Not Adahn

        They sell it in quarts.

      • B.P.

        Utica Club. The brewery also made the Matt’s beer ball, a plastic mini-keg that was floating in creeks all over upstate NY in the 1970s.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I remember that from my beer can collecting days as a yute.

      • Not Adahn

        I stopped for gas once in Utica.

        In Tulsa, there is a street called Utica in the fancy part of town.

      • UnCivilServant

        I have family in the area, so I’ve been there more often.

      • MikeS

        /becomes elevntybillionth click

    • ron73440

      This place is full of insular, suspicious and deceitful natives, with strange ways.

      Thought you were talking about us for a minute.

      • Don escaped Texas

        #MeToo

      • UnCivilServant

        A few more years before there’s an official decade.

      • Nephilium

        Depends on if you want to count the time interacting at TOS.

      • kinnath

        I started posting at TOS in the early to mid aughts. So roughly two decades ago.

      • Nephilium

        I believe I started at about the same time.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Me too. But not seriously until circa 2009 -10

      • Timeloose

        Never posted but lurked for many years since the early 00″

      • Not Adahn

        Bah.

        “Suspicious” is really the only one that applies.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re clearly being deceitful, as we do have strange ways,

    • Trigger Hippie

      ‘Utica pie is a pizza consisting of crust, tomato sauce and grated parmesan cheese.’

      Huh, growing up I called that the Chef Boyardee Boxed Pizza Kit.

  4. rhywun

    But… but… hockey stick!!

    • ron73440

      The article someone (DEG?) posted about Mann going to Penn, they were proud of the “hockey stick”.

      • UnCivilServant

        They should beat Mann to death with a hockey stick for his fraud.

      • ron73440

        Known for his ‘hockey stick’ graph that hammered home the dramatic rise of the warming climate

        I believe the opening sentence is textbook gaslighting.

  5. juris imprudent

    Humans are basically stupid with a pattern fixation that evolution selected on for oh, 10,000 generations – at a minimum. Shit ain’t random bubba – it happens for reasons (or stories) and we’re gonna believe in one or another.

    • kinnath

      Pattern recognition is the difference between living and being eaten by the tiger.

      The issue is that there are few real dangers that civilized people need to recognize.

      • juris imprudent

        We are pattern processing machines, we will find them even where they don’t exist and then make up a story to justify that.

      • kinnath

        agreed

      • John Nerfherder

        Your patriarchical sentence structure indicates hostility.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    I was in Dallas in 1984, at the Grand Prix, working with a Can-Am team. “Hot” doesn’t even begin to describe it.

  7. Fourscore

    When I was a much younger person, every winter was the coldest but we still walked to school in Mpls, rode the bus in Podunkville. Of course, we didn’t wear proper clothes.

  8. Nephilium

    Paywalled now, but relevant:

    Cleveland enjoying delightful summer but has not escaped effects of climate change

    The article is talking about the EXTREME STORMS that we had. We had several bad thunderstorms, this is true. But that’s not unusual for Cleveland in summer. There have been several tornado warnings in the CLE area, but no touchdowns. In fact… from the very same fscking paper:

    Yes, Cuyahoga County does get tornadoes, but none since 2019; here’s where the last 16 have been spotted (Updated April 7th 2023)

    I can damn near guarantee that there will be some article in that same rag come winter talking about the unusually cold/warm winter and blaming it on climate change as well.

    • ron73440

      I remember watching a show on the History Channel (back when they covered history) about how every 40-50 years a big storm would hit New York.

      It talked about the last couple and finished with the fact that we were overdue for one.

      I told my wife that when one does hit, they’ll blame Global Warming (this was before they rebranded it).

      Sure enough, when Sandy hit, they acted like this was a new thing and Climate Change caused it.

      • UnCivilServant

        Define “Big”. I recall a freakout storm in 2012 that knocked a chunk of downstate off the grid.

      • ron73440

        By big, I think they meant hurricane.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, Sandy was still a Cat 1 when it rolled over Downstate.

      • Nephilium

        Not the one back in 2003?

        Monday was the official 20th anniversary of it.

      • UnCivilServant

        We were talking about storms and I was trying to figure out if we were still overdue for a big one.

      • ron73440

        It’s been a while since I saw the show, but I think Sandy filled the requirements for the overdue storm.

      • B.P.

        Sandy did indeed take a shit on NY.

      • rhywun

        Not the one back in 2003?

        Oof, fun times. Second time in two years I had to walk ten or twelve miles home from work. I got to wondering, “WTF, New York?”

        I don’t remember if Sandy knocked out my power. I know I was off work because instead of working I was moving into my current apartment.

  9. The Other Kevin

    The left and the corporate press have become masters at gaslighting. It does work. But I’m encouraged lately because the gaslighting lately is going against observable reality. Cities overrun with migrants, increases in crime, tent villages full of drug addicts, high gas and food prices… all of this counters The Narrative, and people are seeing it every day with their own eyes.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I am not quite sure it is going against anything. People have been highly conditioned to believe what they are told to believe. Mass Stockholm Syndrome in effect.

    • EvilSheldon

      Pretty much any psychologically abusive behavior you can name, is now standard operating procedure for the left. It’s almost like they’re a giant destructive cult…

      • John Nerfherder

        The real problems come when so many of their followers actually believe the bullshit that they overwhelm the manipulators.

    • DEG

      And I guarantee many people will rationalize away what they see.

      Does anyone here remember people blaming GWB for the economy well into Obama’s second term?

      • R.J.

        YES.
        I remember.

      • Bobarian LMD

        It was clearly Reagan’s fault.

      • B.P.

        The same people were saying “Thanks Obama!” in the middle of Trump’s term when the economy was buzzing along.

    • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

      Speaking of which, I ran across this: San Diego now enforcing homeless camping ban

      Murals along Commercial Street in downtown San Diego have long been blocked by encampments. Yet at the start of the week, no tents could be seen on either side of the road. The same went for the people who’d been living in them.

      “There were hundreds,” Bob McElroy, president and CEO of the Alpha Project shelter, said in an interview. “Where did they go?”

      Police began enforcing San Diego’s controversial new camping ban Monday, and although officials said they’ve so far focused only on Balboa Park, the new ordinance combined with other enforcement of laws long on the books has already made notable changes in the encampment landscape.

      The “Unsafe Camping Ordinance” allows officers to force people off public land if they’re sleeping within two blocks of a school, shelter, trolley station, waterway or park “where a substantial public health and safety risk is determined.”

  10. The Late P Brooks

    People have been highly conditioned to believe what they are told to believe.

    Thank a teacher!

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of “gaslighting” harken back to the story I linked in the last day or two featuring prominent global warming alarmists talking about how the media have conspired to keep it a secret. Nobody is willing to tell us the truth about the great climate calamity, because they’re all on the take from Big Carbon!

    Let the truth be heard!

    • Timeloose

      Yet no one questions where the alarmists’ money comes from or what would happen to it if they were to write a paper that goes against the “consensus”.

  12. Mojeaux

    “Gaslighting.”

    Naw. He’s just caught up in a cult, parroting what they say. Lying, if you will, maybe being an asshole and/or a new zealot, but not gaslighting. Gaslighting’s more sinister and more insidious than that, so I’m a little wary of people claiming that lying is gaslighting. My son’s therapist misuses it too, and I called him on it, but he said that was just the common vernacular. No. Gaslighting is:

    Me: “You motherfucking cunt!”

    That uncle that every family has to his wife who is on the phone: “She called me a blankety blank blank blank!”

    Me: *gasp* I most certainly did not!

    Husband: No, she did not!

    Aunt: She would never say that.

    Uncle: *confused and doubting what he absolutely did hear*

    My grandmother was a master of manipulating things to make you feel crazy, and turn the people around you against you. The very few powers that be are gaslighting us, yes, but this dude’s just a zealot and doan know no bettah. I know scientists who are true believers, but I can’t say, “Your data’s flawed, and also, based on conjecture” because he won’t believe it and will write me off as a flat-earther. There is no hope there. The best you can do is hope your friend looks at the numbers and goes, “Dafuq.” But he won’t. He’s just brainwashed, like cultmembers are, and deserves some quietly contemptuous pity.

    • juris imprudent

      I know scientists who are true believers

      Jumbo shrimp, military intelligence, …

    • R.J.

      Suppose you are right. He is a true believer.

    • The Other Kevin

      I guess we did this to one of my kids last night. Middle kid (XX) is with an emotionally abusive boyfriend, and has changed her phone number and refuses to give it to any family. We had a friend over last night, a car dealer who can sell ice cubes to an Eskimo. We were telling him we’re worried for XX’s safety. I had the boyfriend’s phone number so car dealer decided to call him, and he covered for me.

      Car Dealer: Is this (boyfriend)? Is XX there?
      Boyfriend: Yes, here she is.
      XX: How did you get this number?
      Car Dealer: You called me a while ago about buying a car.
      XX: I don’t remember that.
      Car Dealer: Then why is the number in my call log?

      XX: So how did you get this number again?

      • The Other Kevin

        Car Dealer: You gave it to me, remember?
        XX: Ok maybe I did.

      • The Other Kevin

        In any event, he talked to her and verified she’s at least alive.

      • ron73440

        That’s scary, I don’t know of a way to convince someone like her that she is in a bad situation.

        God knows I tried with my daughter, but luckily, she grew out of the insanity.

      • Fatty Bolger

        You can’t convince them. It’s usually a mistake to try, at least past the point where they start shutting you out.

      • The Other Kevin

        It is scary. Fortunately she lives in town, so sometimes people see here walking to work. And my oldest works with her, so she sees her there (when that one isn’t calling off work for BS reasons, but that’s a different story).

    • MikeS

      he said that was just the common vernacular

      This infuriates me. I get language changes, but this Left-driven weaponizing of word definitions for political gain is bullshit. Gaslighting = lying. Bigot = racist. Racist = someone who won’t bend the knee to multiculturism

    • Fourscore

      Insert ‘close’ in there somewhere

      • R.J.

        Where will MikeS advertise his STEVE SMITH can holders?

      • MikeS

        I’m counting on the Gilbertiat to buy them all. I’ll have a booth set up at Honey Harvest. See you all there!

      • R.J.

        I cannot attend Honey Harvest. But I wish to buy one.

      • MikeS

        Were you one of the ones wanting a stick-in-the-ground version? Maybe I should make a forum topic for them

      • R.J.

        That would be nice. I just want one that holds drinks, and has a stand. I agree with whomever said the base should be removable for mailing.

    • MikeS

      The building I went to kindergarten in was across the street from one of the newspapers they owned. They made all of us kids a little stamp of our name from newspaper type. I still have it.

      • R.J.

        That’s cool.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    No news is good news.

  14. Tundra

    They don’t care.

    Facts are for patriarchal transphobe colonists.

    Or something.

  15. robc

    Fide World Cup semis are set:

    Magnus Carlsen (2835) v Nijat Abasov (2632)
    *Fabiano Caruana (2782) v R Praggnanandhaa (2690)

    Pragg won his tiebreaker today, in the sudden death portion, after first 3 tiebreakers were tied. The 8 matches before sudden death featured 2 draws and 6 wins by black! Pragg drew white for sudden death, showed up 30 seconds late to a 3+2 match (3 minutes on the clock plus 2 second increment per move), wasted 10 more seconds taking off jacket and id badge, and then preceeded to win.

    Carlsen said yesterday that he would not be playing in candidates, so the other 3 players remaining all have guaranteed themselves a spot in next years Candidates Tournament.

    The womens semis finished up today, the finals will be:

    Alexandra Goryachkina (2557) v (2409) Nurgyul Salimova

    Salimova is the big suprise on the women’s side, she has recently been coached by … wait for it … Nijat Abasov. They are having a heck of a run. There is also talk that after the top Azerbaijanis were eliminated in the early rounds (Abasov entered tourney as #4 in Azerbaijan), his openings have improved. It is suspected that he has been prepping his matches with his top countrymen. The tourney being held in Baku, they wanted a good run from one of them, and with the others getting upset early, it fell to Abasov.

    • robc

      One additional comment related to the coaching bit. Outside of about the top 20 players in the world, you can’t really make a living just playing chess. So players like Abasov coach to make a living and play chess tournaments to supplement their coaching income. However, by making the semis, Abasov has guaranteed himself at least a $50k prize (up to $110k for 1st place), which I am sure goes a long way in Azerbaijan.

      If things had followed seeding, Abasov would have lost in 2nd round and earned $6k. Which would have been nice for what would have been 1 week of work, but not the same as earning $50k (for a month of work).

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Gaslighting’s more sinister and more insidious

    I’d say it also involves upending objective reality for personal gain. Parroting what you’ve been told is just old fashioned lemming follower-ism. Claiming (in utter and obvious disregard of the facts) the media has ignored your hobbyhorse in order to get more “research grants” and interviews is gaslighting.

    • John Nerfherder

      I knew before I clicked.

      My conspiracy credentials remain untarnished.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m vaguely familiar. Crazy stuff, eh?

      • Tundra

        I’m shocked that I’m still able to be shocked.

        But I am shocked.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Great read…depressing read. It is hard to comprehend a species that has two extremes: great capacity of creation and great capacity of destruction.

    • WTF

      That’s almost as crazy as thinking Covid came from a lab!

  17. Bobarian LMD

    Speaking of gaslighting, what is the ‘far right internet’ and why aren’t we circulating any of these pictures?

    • Ownbestenemy

      The reemergence of the alt-right internet pipeline I see.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Also…didn’t they list the juror names on that ‘oopsie’ document? But then are going to blame people for digging them up?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Stormfront, ZeroHedge, and that fringe libertarian site that’s full of sick fucks and run by a self-styled child groomer and a Sasquatch that travels the globe raping hikers.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        You’d think that Sasquatchsexuals would be celebrated these days. Maybe they need a better flag.

      • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

        I thought that was the thrusting arrow on the new Pride flag?

      • R.J.

        They should get a little fur patch. Like a flag merkin.

      • Bobarian LMD

        THRUSTING ARROW WITH HIKER IMPALED ON BED OF PINE NEEDLES.

        MOTTO: SI CURRIS EGO TE RAPUI DURIUS

    • Rebel Scum

      Names, photographs, social media profiles and even the home addresses purportedly belonging to members of the Fulton County grand jury that this week voted to indict former President Donald Trump and 18 co-defendants are circulating on social media – with experts saying that some anonymous users are calling for violence against them.

      Do they all wear polos, kakis and sunglasses?

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      Sounds way worse than the lawyer in the Andy Ngo lawsuit who said something like “I am Antifa and I’ll remember all your faces” to the jury.

  18. DEG

    Also I don’t know what is with that table color scheme. It’s crazy.

    Yeah, that’s bad on the eyes.

    Don’t let people around you get away with this spouting this kind of crap, you can bring up the numbers and show the truth.

    You can’t reason someone out of a position he hasn’t reasoned himself into.

    On the other hand, as you say here:

    At the very least, do it when kids are around, so they can see gaslighters sputter.

    You might just reach someone watching.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    More Deep Think

    Democracy is, at the very highest level, a system for turning the idea of human equality into practical political reality. When leaders can get away with whatever they want, there is no real political equality: We are electing kings, not fellow citizens. If powerful actors try to act above the law, independent institutions need to check their misbehavior.

    That’s just fucking retarded. What on God’s green earth does that even mean?

    Politics as personality cult? As a means to beatify those most precious and glorious among us?

    I could have sworn “democracy” is just an extremely crude method of finding somebody to do a job no sane person would want.

    • Ownbestenemy

      It doesn’t matter how many come up past examples politicians doing the exact same thing and in some cases, even worse, in how we can apply the law only to a specific person or twist the law after the fact to apply to one person. The leviathan is demanding a pound of Trump’s flesh and it will get it, even if it has to destroy itself.

      • R.J.

        Here’s to the leviathan destroying itself.
        *Clinky

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Democracy is way overrated, all political offices should be chosen by drawing names out of a giant hat.

    • Rebel Scum

      a system for turning the idea of human equality into practical political reality

      This is not a serious person.

    • juris imprudent

      those most precious and glorious among us

      Which is doubly ironic when it is done in the name of human equality.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Gaslighting causes climate change. We need windmill-lighting and solar-lighting.

    • R.J.

      Pull my finger.
      I’ll gaslight.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    The Trump prosecutions are thus revealing a paradox at the heart of American democracy: its institutions are at once both strong and weak.

    They are strong, in the sense that many act the way they should in an advanced democracy — taking legal steps to defend the system against the novel Trumpian threat. They are weak, in the sense that they lack the universal public legitimacy to fully quash the threat through these legal means — a reflection of the fundamental social divisions that gave rise to Trump in the first place.

    Those democratic institutions are pitifully weak because they do not allow us to mercilessly crush those who do not conform to our beliefs. We must maintain a thin facade of tolerance for their egregious heresies and assaults on all that is good and proper.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      What’s the novel Trumpian threat again?

      • Ownbestenemy

        He exists

    • The Other Kevin

      That’s funny, I thought in a democracy the way to handle things was for people to vote. I didn’t realize it was for the non-elected “system” to protect itself by throwing people deemed as political threats in jail for 700 years.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        That’s only if the electorate doesn’t vote in a democracy destroying fascist.

      • Rebel Scum

        Fight “fascism” with fascism.

      • R.J.

        I miss the Young Ones.

  22. Not Adahn

    I think there is aslime possibility that a Sug and Scott Alexander collab would work:

    The usual hum of conversation is punctuated by a tinny voice at minute-long intervals. You track down the hostess, who points at what looks like a kind of distant relative of an Amazon Echo.

    “This is the prototype,” she tells you. “The Automated Land Acknowledger. I’ll be running a Kickstarter campaign next month.”

    You’re not sure you heard right.

    “Automated land acknowledger,” she repeats. “It seems so tokenist to just acknowledge land once, at the beginning of a meeting, then never talk about it again. You think the land stops being stolen from indigenous people just because you’re done with the preliminaries and have moved to reading off the minutes? The ALA has an adjustable setting for acknowledging Native land as frequently as you want, up to every thirty seconds.”

    “This is the unceded ancestral land of the Ohlone people!” chirps the device.

    “And it’s GPS-enabled,” she goes on, “Like, right now, we’re on the unceded ancestral territory of the Ohlone people, but if you go a few miles north, it will be the unceded ancestral territory of the Iwok or Ewok or something, I can’t remember. The ALA keeps track of it so I don’t have to.”

    “I thought part of the point was keeping track of it. As, you know, a show of respect for Native people.”

    “Yeah, and the more you do the land acknowledgment, the more respectful it is. It’s like those Tibetan prayer wheels attached to the watermill, where each time the mill turns the prayer wheel, you get more good karma. Except instead of something fake like karma, it’s respect and allyship.”

    “This is the unceded ancestral land of the Ohlone people!” the device chirps again.

    “Here, I’ll give you a link you can use to get to the Kickstarter campaign once it’s set up. If you’re one of the first ten donors, you get an automatic Gold package, which includes two ALAs for the price of one.”

    • R.J.

      That’s great. I will save that to read later.

    • Fatty Bolger

      I imagine the hostess sounding exactly like Veronica Palmer (Portia de Rossi) from Better Off Ted.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    This paradox could shape not only the political consequences of the four Trump trials, but the long-term prospects for the survival of the world’s oldest democracy.

    In political science, healthy democracies are often referred to as “consolidated democracies.” It’s a typically bloodless academic term, but it refers to an important idea: that democracy becomes truly stable when it is understood as “the only game in town,” meaning that basically all relevant political players accept that free and fair elections should determine who gets to wield power.

    No upstarts. Everything must be controlled by the duly credentialed members of the establishmentarian bubble.

    • Rebel Scum

      the world’s oldest democracy

      Which is?

      accept that free and fair elections should determine who gets to wield power

      When is the last time we had a free and fair election?

  24. The Late P Brooks

    What’s the novel Trumpian threat again?

    He is not of the Body. He is a foreign object, causing infection and decay.

    • B.P.

      Once he is removed by any means possible, everything will go back to normal. We promise. Your job is to help load him into the tumbrel.

      • Fatty Bolger

        We must return to a time when a man and his boy could do their grifting in peace and quiet. Especially the quiet part.

    • juris imprudent

      Be the antibodies! Reject him!

  25. The Late P Brooks

    In 2020, Trump’s absurd legal arguments against the election results failed over and over again in court, often in front of Republican-appointed judges.

    This is one of their most favoritest lies. Those arguments did not “fail”. The courts refused to hear them. There is a difference.

    • Rebel Scum

      Narrative/Truth > Facts

  26. JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

    Is the climate changing? Probably. Glaciers once covered a much larger area than they do now, and at one time the poles were pretty warm.

    Is man causing it? Somewhat, probably. But it’s also capable of changing on it’s own.

    Is it catastrophic? Here and there maybe it will have an impact as it has in the past, but we are much wealthier now and better able to deal with it, unless governments enact policies that impoverish us. (Narrator’s voice: They are enacting policies to impoverish us.)

    Should the models be trusted? No. For one thing, we haven’t measured most places very long in the grand scheme of things. A lot of measurements are taken at airports, which at one time were pretty isolated and are now surrounded by urban areas and thus impacted by the urban heat island effect. I doubt that has been corrected for properly, and it’s probably nearly impossible to do accurately. As an example of the phenomenon, in the winter I can see the thermometer on my car drop about 4-5 degrees between the freeway and my home, which is less than 1 mile. I bet the temperature would drop even more if I went out to the middle of a field.

    Should we trust the hype about every new heat record? No. For example, suddenly the news started reporting surface temperatures and how we’d burn our feet on asphalt when previously they reported only on air temperatures. Why the sudden switch?

    • juris imprudent

      Is man causing it?

      Man is the center, and measure, of the universe. From people who claim science over religion.

      • Mojeaux

        Gaia has no defenses against man.

        None.

        Zero.

        Zip.

        Nada.

        She is completely and totally helpless.

      • Not Adahn

        I mean, they’re not wrong.

        Values require an evaluator.

  27. UnCivilServant

    So apparently, According to the training, we’re not allowed to require employees to comb their hair and speak english.

    This cunty woman in the video also irritated the crap out of me.

    • R.J.

      Combing hair is for saps.

      • rhywun

        Saps and white people.

      • R.J.

        Agreed.

    • UnCivilServant

      Oh fer fuck’s sake “Bystanders can file a complaint” So you can be offended on behalf of someone not bothered in the least.

      • Nephilium

        The proper way to run with that is to get a group of people who file complaints on behalf of each other.

      • UnCivilServant

        My complaint that the training is producing a hostile work environment will be circular filed.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        I swear those trainings do more harm than good.

      • UnCivilServant

        The sorts of things they’re fishing for aren’t happening, so they’re riling up the perpetually offended to justify their existance.

      • Gender Traitor

        My Stupid Subject training modules (sexual harassment, DEI) aren’t due until December. I’ll put them off as long as possible, hoping for a reprieve via death, natural disaster, SMOD, whatever works.

      • UnCivilServant

        We are required to attend either an in-person session or a webinar.

        I’m not going in person, lest I violate the workplace violence policy.

      • R.J.

        I get it. I walk in a room, people start taking notes and giving me side-glances. They know I am not one of the body.
        Might just be the big green head though.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Ah you are catching up to the Federal Government I see.

      • UnCivilServant

        I really wish the stupid videos and the stupid trainers were at the same volume so I didn’t have to keep adjusting the settings to hear or not be deafened.

      • UnCivilServant

        Worst part is the random pop quizzes. Otherwise I’d mute them and go do work.

      • John Nerfherder

        POP QUIZ

        What do you get when you cross a one-legged Polack with a mongoloid?

      • R.J.

        A politician?

      • John Nerfherder

        A Polaroid One-Step

      • Timeloose

        A joke that only someone born before 1980 would understand.

      • John Nerfherder

        Guilty as charged

      • R.J.

        Narrowed gazes…
        Narrowed gazes everywhere…

      • rhywun

        A free ticket to the unemployment line?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Related, do pronouns on linkedin say “I am a potential problem because I might be the type to file complaints due to any sort of perceived microaggression” or, “I will swallow stupid bullshit, which is valuable to my corporate (or government in this case) masters” ?

      • R.J.

        Everyone I know considers it the former. But I hang out with you guys.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Does anyone here work in HR?

      • UnCivilServant

        Either way, it’s a red flag.

        So likely if they find out we binned them over that they can file a complaint.

    • UnCivilServant

      Video: “The policy applies where ever you are doing your job.”

      My unasked question: “So it doesn’t apply to my cube?”

      • UnCivilServant

        “A supervisor can require an employee to do their jobs”

        I’m shocked. The way the policy is written I figured everything was “discrimination” under its definition.

    • rhywun

      Are there any standards at all anymore?

      “My culture requires me to wear flip-flops and halter-tops.”

      “Sure!”

      • UnCivilServant

        PPE, Probably.

        “Put on this face-diaper”

  28. Toxteth O'Grady

    Both the American (Ingrid B.) and British versions of Gaslight are excellent. Ask Teds.

    • Ted S.

      Angie Baby Lansbury is such a saucy wench in the Hollywood version.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Ohhh yeah. “Anything more, sir?”

  29. Suthenboy

    Greatest gas-lighting in the 20th century: the NAZIs were right wing.
    Proper response: oh yeah, the Nationalist Socialistp Workers Party of Germany. That was a real hardcore bunch of right wing extremists alright.

    I lost count decades ago on the number of blank stares and sputters i have caused with that one.

      • Rebel Scum

        The left can’t meme.

      • R.J.

        Fun-ny! In no way are socialists fronting for “oligarchs.” That would never happen.

    • Rebel Scum

      Everyone knows conservatives are fascists because they want constitutionally limited government. That’s what fascism is all about, after all.

      Tried to get a leftist acquaintance to take a gander at the nazi party platform one time, figuring he’d find a lot of things he’d agree with. I don’t know if he ever did.

      • Suthenboy

        Been there done that. They barely get started and…everytime they quit. Why? “It makes me feel uncomfortable. I dont know why but it does. “
        You start to take a second step and they cut you off with “I dont want to talk about it any more.”

        You can count on that response every time like you can count on the sunrise.

    • Suthenboy

      Interruption over. Second half of my comment.
      My best gaslighting: i tried to quit smoking. My coworker was very pleased. A week later i was back smoking. Right in front of coworker i lit up and smoked a whole cigarette. Ten minutes later she exclaimed “ Hey! I thought you quit! I just realized you were smoking!”
      Me: “No. you are so accustomed to seeing me smoke you put that in your own memory”.
      Her: *puzzled look* “Oh….i guess i did .”
      * everyone in the room snickers*

      Unfortunately Global Warming beats the NAZI gaslighting by a mile or ten.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Do you want to be represented by Hitler or Stalin?

      • Suthenboy

        Represented? I dont think that is the way socialism works.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      They weren’t real socialists. Everyone know that real socialist are internationalists and non-racist. Therefore National Socialist is an oxymoron.

  30. Not Adahn

    Lemme see if I understand this:

    If you don’t have an MJ conviction, you can’t legally open a pot shop.

    But if you’re busted for running an illegal pot shop, then you have a conviction so you can legally open a shop.

    • UnCivilServant

      Not quite.

      If you get busted running an illegal pot shop you have a licensing violation conviction, not a pot conviction.

      • Shirley Knott

        So we’ve moved on from Catch 22 to Catch 420?

      • Don escaped Texas

        ** giggles while reassembling a carburetor”

      • Not Adahn

        Better than Catch 320, which occasionally autodetonates.