Weig-a-tinny Rail

by | Aug 8, 2023 | Pastimes, Second Amendment | 167 comments

I recently got an impulse to put an optic on my Ruger Super Redhawk[1]. Why? Why the hell not. I can pretend to have rational reasons[2], but once the idea entered my head, it just sat there … like a toad. Not to be ignored. And it seemed like it shouldn’t be too hard.

To minimize expense, I wanted a way to mount an optic that didn’t require machining. Optics mounted on semi-automatic pistols frequently require a recess to be milled in the rear of the slide. I didn’t want to pay for machine work, and I didn’t want to permanently alter the gun, in case this scheme went south.

The SRH comes from the factory with mounts for scope rings milled into the top strap of the frame. The mounts are two pairs of opposing, angled semi-circular recesses[3]. Note also the two round-bottom recesses on the top of the frame.

Ring mounts are the cuts on the side. Recoil lug recesses are cuts on the top.

 

Those recesses are meant to receive the recoil lugs on the bottom of the rings.

The angled “hook” that grabs the top strap is fixed on one side. The other side pulls up with a screw.

 

It seemed like the best way to mount a current generation optic would be to mount some Picatinny rail system, and then put the optic on the rail. Happily, Weigand Machine sells a number of rails designed for various Ruger revolvers. While most of them require removing the front and/or rear sights, I can use just the ring mounts to install the rail for the SRH[4].

It comes with a free Torx head bit, that you can put in your collection of identical Torx bits, metric hex keys, and stamped-sheet-metal wrenches.

 

This is not a super complicated piece of engineering. Instead of duplicating the recoil lugs that appear on the factory rings, this rail just has two short roll pins that stick down into the recoil lug recesses. Also, instead of providing screws that duplicate the angled surfaces of the factory rings, this rail uses plain screws that go into the rail at an angle to engage the angled surfaces of the ring mounts.

Roll pins. Disappointing.

 

Note how close the screw hole is to the top surface of the rail at the thin end. That will be a problem later. I test fit the rail, just laying it onto the top strap.

Dry fit.

 

See how the rail doesn’t sit down flush along the whole length? The roll pins are not in exactly the right spots to fit into the recoil lug recesses, so they bind up just a bit. Also, it looks like the bit that fits into the scallop on the top strap might be interfering.

The instructions specified that all parts should be cleaned with brake cleaner and dried with compressed air. I used canned air, bought for blowing dust out of computers, because I don’t have a water separator on my little air compressor. The instructions also specified blue Loc-Tite, and said I should run the screws down tight, shoot the gun a couple times, then check the screws and re-tighten as needed. It seems to me like they should really have specified a torque value, particularly since we’re tightening steel screws into aluminum.

The top surface of the rail ends up pretty high above the plane of the iron sights, but short of machining a custom base for the optic that uses the integral ring mounts directly, this is probably the best I could hope for.

The rear screws stick out in the worst way.

 

Installed.

 

Now we come to mounting the optic, and here is where the rear screws really, uh, screw me. They sit high enough, and stick out far enough, that they protrude past the angled edge of the rail. That makes the rear third of the rail pretty much useless, so the optic has to sit further forward than I’d really like it.

For an optic, I bought a Veridian RFX25, in part because I wanted a green dot, in part because I didn’t want to spend a bundle on an optic that, honestly, will probably not get much use. Veridian customer service assured me[5] that the RFX25 would stand up to the abuse of a .44 Mag.

Optic sitting way up there.

 

I loaded up some .44s[6] for test firing, and took it out to the side yard. The first couple shots came in pretty far high and right, and here I discovered two things: 1) I’m an idiot, and 2) the people at Veridian hate me. Second point first, the windage and elevation screws on the RFX25 require a hex key that is some obscure size. Worse, the screws don’t have positive stops, so it’s difficult to control how far you’re turning them. And the cherry on top the GFY sundae is the screws aren’t even marked, so you can’t tell how far and what direction they’ve been turned previously.

As for my idiocy, while I was hunting through the pile of loose hex keys to find the right one, I ruminated on why the gun should be shooting so far to the right. It dawned on me that I had assumed the screws securing the rail would pull the rail into alignment with the top strap. A visual inspection proved this to be incorrect, the rail was clearly on crooked. So I took it off, ran the screws on one side all the way down, then re-installed it, snugging up the screws on the other side. Again, visual inspection showed that while the rail seemed to be sitting straight, it was offset to one side. I backed the screws on the “tight” side off one half turn, and re-tightened the other screws. This looked better, so I took it out again. Now it shot pretty much right on, left to right. I fiddled with the elevation until I was happy[7].

Afterwards, it occurred to me that the rail may actually be flexing at the point where it crosses the scallop in the top strap, and that could explain why the gun was initially shooting high. A man that was actively hunting for trouble would take the optic off, put a straight edge on the rail and check for a gap at one end. As it turns out, I’m surprisingly equanimous with leaving well enough alone[8].

I’m not entirely sure I’d recommend the Weigand rail. It’s okay for the price, I guess ($50 + shipping). As for the Veridian optic, again, it’s okay. It was cheap ($180 on Amazon) and it did not auto-disassemble under recoil. The windage and elevation screws leave a lot to be desired, but they did function properly, albeit in a trial-and-error sort of way.

25 yards off a rest.

 


1 The Ruger Super Redhawk is a big, heavy frame revolver for large bore cartridges. Mine is chambered for .44 Remington Magnum, colloquially “.44 Mag”. It is also available in .454 Casull and .480 Ruger.

2 There actually is one good reason: .44 Mag is legal for deer in Ohio, and an optic will improve the utility of the gun for hunting. Fun fact, Ohio’s hunting laws are written such that a something as large as a .45-70 is legal for deer … as long as it’s in a handgun. You have to pay for your own orthopedics.

3 I believe this mounting system is proprietary to Ruger. It also used on Ruger 77 rifles. On the SRH, the mounts are not in the same plane, so the rear ring is shorter than the front ring.

4 The model of the rail for the SRH in .454 Casull does require removing the rear sight.

5 Pinky swear.

6 Fred-brand 240gr jacketed hollow point over 23gr of Win 296 powder. The book says this should generate about 1270fps, which is pretty middle-of-the road.

7 Until I ran out of ammunition. I only loaded 12 to start with.

8 Not going to lie, the prospect of continuing to mess with the shitty adjustments on the optic significantly increased my indifference.

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167 Comments

  1. R.J.

    Great article. I test out stuff too, sometimes with bad results. Made a good article and learning lesson.

  2. UnCivilServant

    I was expecting you to trim the last half inch off that rail so that it lines up with the beefier part of the frame behind the barrel.

    • R.J.

      Considering the flex issue, why bother anymore. Might still be returnable after cleanup at this point.

      • UnCivilServant

        Sorry, my hobbies involve a lot of detail work, and little things like that stick in my mind.

      • ron73440

        That would have bothered me too.

      • R.J.

        If he keeps it, I could see removing the excess. Sounds as if he was ambivalent and within the return window.

      • MikeS

        same

      • Grummun

        Honestly, trimming that off didn’t even occur to me. It is unsightly. The hitch at this point is removing the rail to trim it means re-zeroing the sight once I re-install the rail. Although, that would mean the opportunity to do a better job of really getting the rail on straight. There’s no easy way to measure accurately how parallel the rail is to the gun, so I’d have to build a fixture to hold the gun rigidly, in such a position that would allow me to measure position with an indicator.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    Well done.

  4. Not Adahn

    I need a polished stainless gun in my life.

    • Sean

      I agree.

      • Timeloose

        A nice Ruger KGP-160 with the short shroud and polished SS.

        Great for the price, find a nice one used.

  5. Common Tater

    “Fun fact, Ohio’s hunting laws are written such that a something as large as a .45-70 is legal for deer … as long as it’s in a handgun.”

    A 45-70 rifle is not legal for deer? Magnum Research makes a 45-70 revolver for some stupid reason.

    Anyway, it sounds as though a regular scope without the rail would be more reliable and accurate.

    • Grummun

      Breechloading rifles are not legal for deer in Ohio, full stop. Muzzleloaders are, in a special season. Handguns are legal as long as they are chambered for a cartridge with at least a .357″ diameter slug, and straight wall case no shorter than …. uh… don’t exactly recall, but .357 Mag is legal, .38 Special is not. .45 Win Mag is legal, .45 ACP is not.

      regular scope without the rail would be more reliable and accurate

      But more bulky. And the blanket assertion of reliability and accuracy is debatable.

      • Bobarian LMD

        It is my understanding that straight wall cartridges in mechanical action rifles are now OK in Ohio? So you could use a lever gun, which would allow a 45-70?

        I think there is still a 3 round limit, just like shotgun.

        Actually looking at the reg, there is no mechanical gun restriction, which is the case in PA. So an AR in .350 Legend with a plugged mag would be legal?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Belay that, still needs to be GT .357, so a .450 Bushmaster would be the AR solution.

      • Grummun

        Looks like you’re right, I had no idea.

      • R.J.

        Texas allows anything except rimfire. There is a special season for muzzle loading, and I found this line interesting:

        Game animals and non-migratory game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm, except:
        Muzzleloaders: muzzleloader deer seasons are restricted to muzzleloading firearms only: any firearm designed such that a bullet/ projectile, and powder can be loaded only through the muzzle (as opposed to breech-loading firearms). A cap and ball firearm in which the powder and ball are loaded into a cylinder is not a muzzleloader.
        Suppressors (aka “silencers”): may be used to take any wildlife resource; however, all federal, state and local laws continue to apply.

      • R.J.

        So, hunt with my Colt Army repro during regular deer season? YeeHaw!

      • Common Tater

        “And the blanket assertion of reliability and accuracy is debatable.”

        Fewer parts and less movement.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m not sure that’s true comparing a red dot and a variable magnification scope.

  6. ron73440

    You would think it would line up better the first time, but for $50, can’t bitch too much.

    And the cherry on top the GFY sundae is the screws aren’t even marked, so you can’t tell how far and what direction they’ve been turned previously.

    That probably would have gotten me to buy a different optic, maybe not though, since it was cheap and not a necessity.

    • Grummun

      Didn’t notice that bit of unpleasantness until I was out shooting it. It’ll certainly put a damper on any future Veridian Viridian purchases.

  7. UnCivilServant

    Mmmm… house smells like herb-roast chicken.

    Hope it’s done soon.

    • UnCivilServant

      Temp still too low. It had better be done soon, I have more interviews filling the afternoon.

      • R.J.

        Caveman say you raise temperature! Cook faster!

      • Sean

        If you sit and stare at the oven, it will cook faster.

      • UnCivilServant

        Fuuuuuu….. 🤬

        The floor got my chicken!

      • Sean

        Narrator: “The 5 second rule is in effect.”

        Sorry dude.

      • UnCivilServant

        At least it wasn’t the last of my chicken. I’ll just herb coat another thigh and cook that one.

  8. Lackadaisical

    ‘amateur gunsmithing.’

    Hold my beer.

    If it works, it’s not stupid. You could have maybe trimmed down the screws so they don’t protrude so much and gotten your optic in a slightly further back spot.

    • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

      Trimming screws down is actualy pretty difficult if you don’t have some sort of die to run them through to clean up the thread. You are much better off calling McMaster Carr and getting some in the proper length, especially in the smaller sizes used in gunsmithing.

      • UnCivilServant

        My thought was a getting a different screw with a smaller head, and put a lopsided washer/bracket in to actually grip the pistol.

      • Lackadaisical

        Good points.

        I’ve trimmed larger screws and it’s a pain, even at thar much larger scale.

  9. Suthenboy

    Nice job. The flyer is most likely you or a less than perfect bullet.
    Aint much of a flyer though.

  10. Fourscore

    Excellent info, Grumman. I want a red dot on a Contender barrel. Contender scopes are easy but don’t seem to accommodate Red Dot mounts. I’ll have a gun smith take a look, I couldn’t find any rails that look both Contender and red dot compatible.

    • Suthenboy

      I dont have a contender. I always wanted one. I looked on the TC site and I dont see them. Are they still made?

      • slumbrew

        From wikipedia: “the Contender was discontinued in 2000.”

        Boo.

      • Suthenboy

        Boo is right. What the hell?

      • Suthenboy

        Now i see. Same as winchester. Too many models, too many cartridges you cant find.
        That is a sure path to bankruptcy.

    • Grummun

      If you can get a picatinny rail on the Contender, there are plenty of optics that will mount on that rail. Although, again, it’s going to sit well above the axis of the bore. To get it sitting lower, I think you’re looking at machine work, either a custom mounting plate or mill a spot in the barrel receive a factory mounting plate.

    • UnCivilServant

      Waaait… the Movie Lord Humongus wears a wedding ring?

      • slumbrew

        Huh. Looking around, I don’t see it in other scenes. Oversight?

        TIL that, in the original draft of the script, Lord Humongus was going to be revealed as Goose, Max’s old police partner, who had gone insane after getting badly burned in The Road Warrior.

      • UnCivilServant

        It was better without that reveal.

    • Grummun

      Mea culpa.

    • Nephilium

      Are you sure?

      • Grummun

        Gun sights does fit right into their product portfolio.

      • Sean

        🙂

      • Nephilium

        I have no idea how that show even was able to get the racial sensitivity episode made and get it to air. I’m even more surprised that it hasn’t gotten pulled off streaming for being “offensive”.

      • Tres Cool

        I liked that show. Shame it didnt last.

      • Grummun

        It’s a shame they only made, what, three seasons? It’s an awesome show.

      • Nephilium

        Two seasons is all we got, and only 13 episodes per season.

      • Grummun

        WTF. Season 1 on Amazon, $21. Season 2, $199?

      • Nephilium

        At least the second season was released on DVD. I’ve been building up the Plex server with old series Just the other day I was trying to remember the name of the series Halt and Catch Fire (which I enjoyed as a throwback to old computers and the like), so I started looking to see the cost of the whole series on DVD. Not available, only the first two seasons were released on DVD/BluRay, the last two are digital only.

        There’s an old 90’s show called Nowhere Man that ran for one season back in the mid-90’s, which I loved (and I’m sure it doesn’t hold up well at all), not available for streaming, and was briefly released on DVD. Meaning that an out of print DVD for a show that’s over 25 years old jumps around between $50-$200. If I see it at ~$20, it will be mine.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Two. Portia deRossi was great, like a hot female Mr. Burns.

  11. Rebel Scum

    And Trump hasn’t stopped attempting to obstruct justice. …

    These statements directly violate the conditions of Trump’s release pending trial.

    In USSA expressing an opinion is obstructing justice.

    • WTF

      Hell, defending yourself is obstructing justice. Not helping to incriminate yourself is obstructing justice.

      • R.J.

        Standing in front of a judge is obstructing justice.
        Mwa ha! Ha! Haha!

      • The Other Kevin

        He hired not one, but SEVERAL lawyers. If that’s not obstruction, I don’t know what is.

      • MikeS

        He has several lawyers working in concert to defend him…sounds like a conspiracy, to me.

    • ron73440

      Until she starts talking.

    • Lackadaisical

      This is why it’s so important that crazies self-identify.

  12. MikeS

    Nice write-up. Thanks, Grummun!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    defending yourself is obstructing justice.

    Exactly.

  14. Rebel Scum

    That dude/dyke Ukrainian propaganda minister (or whatever) from the morning links…

    Not only does it state Russians are not human, it laughably claims that Ukraine is fighting for freedom against dictatorship.

    • Tres Cool

      She/he just needed to call them “untermenschen”.

  15. Brochettaward

    Alex Jones is officially joining Steven Crowder’s Mug Club network.

    • R.J.

      I haven’t checked that out yet. Mostly because it would be another subscription. How is it?

      • Brochettaward

        I’m not a Mug Club member. I just can’t watch a political show on a daily basis to justify it. Alex Jones is only adding a weekly show as part of Crowder’s network while keeping his normal routine. His content I could probably get behind. If I were to pay for a subscription, it would probably be Mug Club and it’d probably be more out of principle than for the extra content.

        Crowder is entertaining to me and usually on point.

        His other big announcement is that he’s launching his own investigative/undercover investigative team.

      • Rebel Scum

        Crowder is entertaining to me and usually on point.

        Agreed. I do typically watch his show. He’s had AJ on several times recently so I guess this development makes sense.

    • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

      Alex is joining who’s what?

  16. kinnath

    More fucking nonsense:

    The Supreme Court on a 5-4 vote Tuesday reinstated for now the Biden administration’s regulations on “ghost guns,” firearms assembled from kits without the usual serial numbers and background checks on purchasers.

    The court’s order said the regulations will remain in place while legal battles continue. Neither side explained its reasoning, as is common in emergency applications. But Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr., Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh said they would have denied the government’s request.

    The order was unsigned, but the list of noted dissenters means that Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and fellow conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined liberal Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson in approving the government’s plea.

    • UnCivilServant

      The correct answer would be “The ATF has no consitutional basis for existing, all of its rules are injoined permanantly, pending litigation.”

      • cyto

        The other version of the correct answer is “What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ is unclear??”

      • Suthenboy

        The part that does not lead to the conclusion they so desperately want….the conclusion that would leave you helpless to defend yourself from them.

        “Who, you ask, are the militia? They are the body of the people, every person capable of bearing arms.” – James Madison, author of the second amendment.

        The only exceptions are persons whose rights are restricted AFTER due process. That allowance is given in the constitution and that one only. Any other infringement makes the government’s actions, not the individual’s, a criminal act.

        I am on a list, aren’t I?

      • R C Dean

        I’m proud to share a list with you, Suthen.

      • R.J.

        Reporting for another list, SIR!
        Government is probably tired of updating my file.

      • Rebel Scum

        ^

    • John Nerfherder

      That’s Roberts showing the libs that he’s totally fair and impartial.

      • kinnath

        It’s Barrett that pisses me off more. Roberts is beyond repair.

      • cyto

        And the point of these sorts of injunctions is to prevent harm in the interim. The status quo ante was that this is legal. The government seeks to change that. The presumption should be to put a hold on government action until it is decided, not the other way around. It isn’t really a close call on that front either. Not sure what they were thinking.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Agreed. The reality is that these judges are pressured by their colleagues within law to reinforce the morality of the ruling class. Law is completely fictitious which is why you get the Supreme Court jailing Eugene Debs for opposing the draft during WWI to the Supreme Court reversing itself when Vietnam started (the elite wanted WWI, but didn’t like when the draft was expanded to college kids- their kids- during Vietnam), which also explains why the federal courts couldn’t find the first clause of the 1st amendment for two years, but everytime child sex changes are banned the federal courts yell “unconstitutional”. “Constitutional” just means conforms with elite morality and bears no relation to that document.

        But, the MILF is from Indiana and attends church (all not in line with elite fashion), she should be impervious to pressure. Her church should start excluding her. Apply pressure from below.

      • Lackadaisical

        “Her church should start excluding her. Apply pressure from below.”

        As based as Catholicism can be, I don’t think there’s anything about a right to bear arms in my version of the catechism.

      • UnCivilServant

        Luke 22:36

        It is assumed that the Disciples would have no difficulty arming themselves. Even if the violence to follow was ultimately curtailed at the loss of an ear.

      • Lackadaisical

        So if you shoot off anything more than an ear, it’s a crime? Also, two guns are enough.

      • WTF

        Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
        Luke 22:36-38, NKJV

      • UnCivilServant

        Sounds familiar.

        While the ideal would be to turn the other cheek, but there will be times that one must have to defend themselves, with the expectation that it is not denied to them.

    • kinnath

      Prelogar said ATF’s rule regulating gun kits and partially assembled frames fits comfortably within Congress’s definition of a firearm as “any weapon … which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive.”

      The fact that the parts require assembly or conversion to become a working weapon is accounted for in that language, she argued.

      “If a state placed a tax on the sale of tables, chairs, couches, and bookshelves, IKEA surely could not avoid that tax by claiming that it does not sell any of those items and instead sells ‘furniture parts kits’ that must be assembled by the purchasers,” Prelogar wrote. “So too with guns: An ordinary speaker of English would recognize that a company in the business of selling kits that can be assembled into firearms in minutes — and that are designed, marketed, and used for that express purpose — is in the business of selling firearms. A contrary conclusion blinks reality.

      Yes, you stupid cunt. That’s exactly what it means.

      A pile of lumber is not furniture. A furniture kit is not furniture. Furniture is furniture.

      • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

        Oddly enough, small trucks got around import restrictions using that exact process in the early eighties. They would be shipped from Japan without a bed, which would be made and installed here in the US.

    • Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

      So, men vs. women in the decision.

    • MikeS

      Funny stuff. I missed it until I read this comment. He’s right, dude is funny.

      Bro swimming across the Atlantic got out and wrung the water out his shirt and forgot about the scuffle for a second, went to wreak havoc, realized he was still weighed down by the water in his shirt, went back to the water to get it all out just so he could still look confused.

  17. Rebel Scum

    You cuntes don’t seem to understand that he is trying to goad the system into trying to put him behind bars in order to rally support.

    As Donald Trump cranks up his attacks on a growing list of targets linked to his numerous legal battles, experts predict the former president could soon be strapped with a court-ordered muzzle.

    But it’s an open question, they say, whether a gag order could be enforced against Trump, now a top White House contender with a reflexive social media habit and a campaign message built around his self-proclaimed political persecution.

    “I think a gag order is likely, I’m just not sure if it will be enforced,” former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told CNBC.

    “A lot of the judges that I’ve seen cover these types of political cases, they’ve been all bark, no bite,” he said.

    • The Other Kevin

      What we need is a one week trial, no appeals, and swift execution.

      • Nephilium

        Punishment first. Trial later.

  18. Brochettaward

    Now that the Twatters is allowing you to get paid for shit posting, I may have to really give it a go.

    • John Nerfherder

      You do seem to have a knack for it.

    • MikeS

      You’ll be a billionaire in no time.

    • R.J.

      Without sarcasm, you would do great at that. Go shit up some feeds and start some fires.

      • MikeS

        Did you say that yesterday, too?

      • UnCivilServant

        Maybe, but I don’t remember if I got an answer before I had to leave.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        YoYo’s half brother.

      • R.J.

        YoYoMaMa

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        👏

  19. The Late P Brooks

    He hired not one, but SEVERAL lawyers. If that’s not obstruction, I don’t know what is.

    If I’m not mistaken, some of those lawyers have previously worked for the government. Conflict of interest!

    • The Other Kevin

      Charge them all with corruption!

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      John Roberts is a coward and will always follow the whims of fashion (he most likely leaked the Dobbs decision). For shame on the MILF from Indiana, though.

    • kinnath

      kinnath on August 8, 2023 at 12:36 pm
      More fucking nonsense:

      Too late bro.

    • juris imprudent

      Shitty reporting. They killed a stay; no ruling on the merits.

      • kinnath

        Correct. But that’s not what the headlines say. The propaganda machine is working full time to spin this for Brandon.

      • R C Dean

        Killing a stay is not a small thing. Having that law in effect for years (because even if a lower court overturns it, that decision will get stayed now that the Supes have said they want the law in effect until they can give it their final blessing) is going to be a major problem for that whole slice of the firearms thing.

      • kinnath

        This is a major fucking disappointment.

  20. cyto

    A) that looks absolutely ridiculous
    B) and it is awesome!

    Great article. Thanks for sharing

  21. juris imprudent

    Bulwark fretting about Hunter and how he might cost Joe re-election. I guess they’ve dropped the conceit of a conservative outlook and are simply 100% anti-Trump.

    • The Other Kevin

      I suppose it’s too much to ask for someone, ANYONE, to say, “You know, I’m a die hard Dem, but damn this looks terrible. Time for him to step aside for someone else.”

      • kinnath

        “What did the vice president know and when did he know it?”

      • UnCivilServant

        “I contend that my client has always been too stupid to know about anything.”

        /Novel defense.

      • The Other Kevin

        “You can’t put Biden on trial, he is mentally incompetent. Now let’s put this all aside and continue on with his re-election.”

      • R C Dean

        Hell, if Diane Feinstein can still be Senator even though she is incompetent to manage her own affairs (her daughter now has her power of attorney), why can’t someone too incompetent to stand trial be President?

      • Lackadaisical

        “knowing is a thing we do as a community, you know, knowing about things you read in books or are told school is how you know. And that’s what we’re trying to achieve.” /Harris

      • Fatty Bolger

        Truth is the best defense.

      • John Nerfherder

        They would have shuffled Joe aside already if it weren’t for RFK Jr.

        They can’t appoint Newsom to the nomination without debates so long as RFK is in there, fucking things up for them.

        Which is why RFK, not Trump, is the most important politician in the game right now.

      • R C Dean

        It’ll be Newsom. No reason to rush things. It’s easily arranged to happen at the convention – Joe steps down, shortly before, no time for debates or a big public brawl, bingo bango, its President Hair Gel.

      • John Nerfherder

        This is their current plan. Avoid debates entirely by sticking a broomstick up Joe’s ass for the next year.

      • R.J.

        RFK will spoil Newsome more than he would spoil Biden.
        I think Newsome will deflate like DeSantis did. Outside of the home state, they have no game.

      • John Nerfherder

        All they need is something passable for the narrative. The election is just for show. They’re desperate now and all the stops will get pulled out.

      • R.J.

        If it’s Newsome, RFK will spoil him like an old egg in the sun. So much material there to rag on.

      • John Nerfherder

        If they can help it, RFK won’t get the chance.

      • WTF

        There’s a reason they denied RFK Jr. Secret Service protection.

      • Lackadaisical

        *Ding ding ding*

        We have a winner

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Reason’s sister publication.

    • Bobarian LMD

      Brilliant guy.

      Arrogant asshole.

      Should not be in charge of people.

      From personal experience.

      • R.J.

        Macgregor or Paul?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Never met Ron. But he was a politician, so probably both.

      • Drake

        That’s Doctor Paul to you then!

    • kinnath

      Younger than me.

  22. Zwak , “There is infinite amount of hope in the universe… just not for us.”

    I have been going the opposite direction, and putting Diopters on most of my more commonly shot rifles, both air and powder.

    This is what I am talking about: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184779507815?hash=item2b05b78867%3Ag%3AoqcAAOSwcQ1gfk3T&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwLvNq3yfKBKAXbh2ef%2FmAtIzeEQh71NlRS7qOzxUwB2txfBL9jo0OQnGrtGMxMDql3yJBZZcSfrNMNgGAzySGf94LYw8ksF756fhHOQ3NXZ4U5X8336cFNAoq7H044WtyHTC%2FNOSwfJuDMhZDPyXCzk%2FAtqqGCBeCl9WEEEGtdWrJEpKfjSYyntJYURK9BQTx%2FBmrcH4bmoIhFQe3TmadaJfHST3sWujJef4zPi3cIq%2FFuPLd1xXY83C6hbIntrATA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9C_oue6Yg&LH_ItemCondition=4

    I now have them on my Weihrauch HW35, both Walthers: KKJ and LG55, and just ordered one for my Diana 45, and there is a vernier on the .45-70. Spendy, but oh, so accurate. I only have scopes on my beater Lee Enfield and Marlin .22mag at this point. But, I don’t hunt anymore, so target work is the name of the game now.

    • Bobarian LMD

      The iron sight for people with less than stellar eye-sight?

      • R.J.

        I’m in. My eyes are terrible.

  23. Rebel Scum

    I find the transden flag the most offensive here.

    Protestors targeted young girls outside of the signing of the #SaveWomensSports Act in Texas.

    Girls, as young as 5, were harassed & called vulgar names, all for joining the celebration of protecting equal athletic opportunity.

    • R.J.

      Those are the only people the protesters can intimidate. The Transden flag gets an ‘F’ for complete lack of effort. Could have been done so much better.

    • kinnath

      The activist left believes that it can say anything to anyone at any time under any circumstances and suffer no consequences all why denying opponents the right to free expression.

      This needs to end.

    • The Other Kevin

      No step on woman’s snek.

      • Lackadaisical

        Last I checked, women don’t have a snake to step on.

  24. Sensei

    “When we got there, the whole warehouse was full of cheese wheels on top of one another,” said Daniele Retto, a spokesperson for the local fire brigade department, according to NBC News. “We had to call the unit that specializes in the search and rescue of people under the rubble, especially after an earthquake. They spent hours moving the wheels by hand, one by one, and found his body only in the morning.”

    Italian cheesemaker fatally crushed by thousands of wheels of cheese
    https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/08/italian-cheesemaker-fatally-crushed-by-thousands-of-wheels-of-cheese.html

    • UnCivilServant

      What a cheesy way to go.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Blood curdling.

    • R.J.

      Wow!
      Normally you hear that about porn collections.

  25. Drake

    My uncle had a Dan Wesson .357 with scope and interchangable barrels back in the 80s. Not sure where it went after he passed. Very sweet shooting iron. No recollection of the mounting system it used.

  26. Cowboy

    I’m in the process of putting electronic lights on all my rifles. For a long time my philosophy was “no one’s trying to take my optics away”, so anytime I had the spare cash I’d spend it on ammo or another gun. But now with a safe full of iron sights, and with how inexpensive optics have got. I think it’s time.

    I also don’t want to just be a loot drop when things get spicy, so hopefully this will help prevent that.

    Looking at getting a few holosun 510c with the 3x magnifiers for my ars and tavors, not sure what to go with on my pistols that are rmr cut. I don’t have trijicon money. I also need to figure out something for my 300 blackout rifle and my ar10. Already have a big nice scope on the precision bolt guns. Need something more DMR flavored.

    Also kicking myself, primary arms had the Aero Precision Lahar can on sale for 340, and silencer shop had the YHM R45 on sale for 550 with a free tax stamp. Of course, they sold out while I was still deciding. Oh well, hopefully there will be some labor day sales I can catch

    • Drake

      I was always an anti-light guy thanks to the Marines. Now I think I want one on the shotgun when I get the extended tube. Also thinking about a lightweight AR with nothing except a red dot and light.

      My only AR is a DMR and it has enough crap attached already.

      • Bobarian LMD
      • Cowboy

        Yeah I’ve never been a light guy, either. If it’s night time and I’m outside the house, I don’t want to be seen. If I’m in the house I’ll just turn the lights on myself. But I’m not tactical genius.

    • R C Dean

      Get the holosuns for your pistols. They fit RMR cuts.

  27. Tres Cool

    On my way to lovely Steubenville, Oh for the night. There’s a class being held there Im going to attend.
    Home of Jimmy the Greek, Dean Martin, and the incomparable Miss Traci Lords.

    • slumbrew

      Your jet-set lifestyle is just like that George Clooney movie.

  28. Grummun

    No comments on my witty alt-text. I will now sit in a dark room and cry quietly.