Over-rated: Stop Making Sense

by | Sep 28, 2023 | Sports | 107 comments

NewWife and I went and saw the remastered/rereleased/whatever concert last night resulting in your getting this predictable reading tune.

I saw it first run in Memphis at the Fare Four which was then owned by a couple of Arab brothers and ran all the artsy stuff, so sometimes there was a desultory picket of bored Baptists at their place you had to drive around if you wanted to see a nipple.  It was near midnight and the town was caked in ice, so we snuck over by driving down the middle of five-lane streets at 6MPH.  I don’t remember the arcane details of going to many movies three decades ago.  Now, onto the nonsense!

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 Colorado ain’t 22d

    • they best CSU by 15? won in 2OT; we rate this prediction Somewhat True
    • lose to Oregon by 13?  lost by 36, and are now unranked; we rate this prediction Super True; we rate Colorado formerly over-rated
    • lose to USC by 18?
    • lose to ASU by 2?
    • win over Stanford by 11?
    • lose to UCLA by 10?
    • then lose to Oregon St by 7?
    • then edge Arizona by 3?
    • then lose in Pullman by 10?
    • then lose to UU by 9?

OTHERWISE, HOW THE WEEK WENT

Duke ain’t 21st

but they smashed 0-4 basketball behemoth UMass.  They’re not even a top 30 team.

I’ve realized the folly of declaring low-tier teams as under-rated because, even if they are, they need to be smashed by a nobody and knocked entirely out of the rankings for us to notice.  Suppose Duke loses to Notre Dame:  they should, so it would prove nothing.  I’ve got too much of this in the stew, and maybe the year’s lesson is that when things get muddy, it’s hard to know who’s over-rated or to even get data that proves it.

Florida State sure as shit ain’t 4th,

and barely edged 2-2 Clemson, but no one will admit they were wrong yet, and looking down through their schedule, there doesn’t look like there will be any test to clarify things.  They did get knocked down a notch to make room for THE ohio state, which is correct.

Oklahoma ain’t 18th ,

but they hung 20 on 2-2 Cincy.  There’s probably nothing to see here the rest of the year no matter whether they win the Red River Rivalry, but they are definitely looking like a top tier team and will probably be a big miss for me.  My God, what have I done?

Oregon State ain’t 16

and lost to 21-ranked Washington State, but they ain’t 19th, either:  we wait.

Washington sure as shit ain’t 8th,

but they posted 59 on Cal.  Two weeks ago I grudgingly observed they might be a top 20 squad, and now they are very much looking like my first big miss of the year.

North Carolina ain’t 17th,

but they scored 41 on Pitt and might be a top 25 team.  They’ve been promoted to 15th, so they’re even more over-rated than when they fell into my rant.

Utah ain’t 12th,

but they got the dub over UCLA in a pure strugglefest; we’re waiting on bowl season to see these guys unhorsed.

Washington State (father-in-law’s alma mater) ain’t 23d,

but, see above, they handled also-over-rated Oregon State.  This is looking to be the year of games that don’t prove much.

UCLA ain’t 24th,

but they held UU to 14, so maybe they are 24th?  Possible Miss Alert.

 

NEWLY OVER-RATED

There are not nine twelve eleven teams better than Alabama:  watch this spot.

Michigan ain’t 2d, but it’s not really worth arguing about, and beating up the University of New Jersey doesn’t prove anything.

See also Texas which ain’t 3d:  Baylor had already lost this year to Outlet Mall Tech and look to be playing the role of Vandy in the AwesomeXII.

Miami ain’t 20th.  They hung 41 on the University of Bill Cosby Honorary PhD.

 

RECENT NEWS IN STUPID

Ole Miss shouldn’t drop five spots for losing to Bama.  See, this is what I’m talking about:  they’re behind Florida State, Utah, LSU, North Carolina, Washington State, Duke, and Miami because they failed a test that no one else would have passed, either……all of that just can’t be right.

Florida shouldn’t be ranked at all; neither should Missouri, Fresno, or Kansas.

 

EVEN MORE USELESS OPINIONS

best one-loss team:  Bama

best two-loss team:  Clemson

best three-loss team:  Pitt

best four-loss team:  San Jose State

 

FORMERLY OVER-RATED

we wish to hear their names no more

Tulane ain’t 24th

Colorado ain’t 22d

 

 

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107 Comments

  1. Contrarian P

    I can’t say I’ve been paying much attention to football this season. Why am I supposed to give a damn that Deion Sanders is coaching at Colorado and apparently is now Bear Bryant in a track suit?

    • creech

      Because he is Coach “Prime!”

      • Bobarian LMD

        It’s a 2-10 team that will probably over-achieve to go 6-6.

        If he can keep them positive.

  2. The Late P Brooks

    No Buckeyes?

    • Nephilium

      OH?

      • Annoyed Nomad

        I – O!

  3. Ownbestenemy

    Clean hit, maybe 1/2 second late…and Vegas veteran players go apeshit. To include Mark Stone sounding like a whiney bitch.

    That’s probably the last time I’ll ever play against that guy,” Stone told reporters, including FOX 5 Vegas’ Vince Sapienza. “Not really much of a player, so I’ll leave it at that.

    Plus they lost after blowing a 2-goal lead by an Ontario Reign callup (the whole lineup actually) getting a hat-trick while Vegas had a near regular season lineup. What losers.

    • Tundra

      Yeah, that was fine. The game os too fast to nitpick stuff like that.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I have to learn to stay up for these games now. I hope the Kings call the kid up every time they play Vegas just to throw Stone off his game lol. I can see a Slapshot relationship building.

      • Bobarian LMD

        He’s had a rough rookie year, what with his deportation to Canada and that country’s subsequent refusal to accept him…

  4. Shpip

    Florida shouldn’t be ranked at all; neither should Missouri, Fresno, or Kansas.

    Florida will be out of the rankings if they lose to Kentucky this weekend. UK is a team that the Gators beat 31 years in a row, but they’ve lost two of the last three to the ‘Cats and have been craptacular on the road as of late (even dropping one to Vandy last year). The line is Kentucky by one, but I think the game is a toss-up. A key, believe it or not, is if the Gators’ offensive line can avoid false start penalties that bedeviled them two years ago in Lexington and in this season’s opener at Utah.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    Workers of the world, unite!

    President Joe Biden’s Tuesday fundraiser in the Bay Area was held at the Atherton home of the wealthy philanthropist couple Mark Heising and Liz Simons, according to NBC Bay Area, which was at the scene. Real estate listings for the home say it’s worth more than $33 million.

    The president’s two-day stop in the region began Tuesday afternoon, when he arrived at Moffett Federal Airfield in Santa Clara County. Later, NBC Bay Area captured footage of Biden’s motorcade heading up the long, gated driveway of the couple’s home in Atherton. Tickets to the sold-out fundraiser cost between $5,000 and $100,000.

    A real estate listing on Redfin says the nearly 13,000-square-foot home comes equipped with five bedrooms and six bathrooms between its two stories and sits on more than 10 acres. The listing says the home last sold for roughly $18 million in 2007.

    Speaking to NBC Bay Area, Nolan Higdon, a political analyst and professor at Cal State East Bay, said it’s not surprising that Biden would head to the wealthy enclave of Atherton to raise money.

    If Trump wins, the billionaires will take over.

    • UnCivilServant

      Lysdexics of the World Untie!

    • The Other Kevin

      “Real estate listings for the home say it’s worth more than $33 million.”
      Well I say it’s worth $2 million. Let’s bring fraud charges.

      I wonder if Biden spent more than 12 minutes at that fundraiser?

      • rhywun

        Each guest gets a puddin’ cup. In addition to, you know, presidential favors.

    • R C Dean

      “Real estate listings for the home say it’s worth more than $33 million.”

      Almost twice as much as Mar a Lago. Take that, BOM!

  6. The Late P Brooks

    I wonder if Biden spent more than 12 minutes at that fundraiser?

    How much does he charge for a selfie with a billionaire?

    • R C Dean

      Did he take his bagman on this trip?

    • Fourscore

      Welcome home, Tundra. My, my, how the old neighborhood has changed.

      • Tundra

        It happened pretty fast, too. It’s depressing.

    • Rat on a train

      No poutine either.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        But then it would be… Routine!

        /I’ll see my self out.

  7. DEG

    It was near midnight and the town was caked in ice, so we snuck over by driving down the middle of five-lane streets at 6MPH.

    It works.

    • Not Adahn

      December 1988. We were driving up I-35 in Iowa, got caught in a blizzard. We navigated by having someone sit on the hood ant point a flashlight at the right-side line.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Over Donner pass on I-5 in a blizzard while driving an ’09 New Beatle pulling a Uhaul. I put the cruise at 20, moved as far right as I felt traction, and let the idiots pass me. Took six hours to go over, but no issues.

  8. UnCivilServant

    I get a half hour for lunch. It’s been that way since I started, and I don’t get paid for that time.

    Yet for some reason, if I leave my desk for that time, especially if I leave the building, I feel like I’m doing something wrong that will get me in trouble. Even if what I’m doing is getting lunch.

    Still don’t understand the reaction. It’s certainly not something management ever pressured.

    • Lachowsky

      I have no defined lunch break. I can go whenever I want and take as long as I like as long as I am taking care of my duties. It’s pretty nice.

      • UnCivilServant

        Given the nature of my work, the timing of my lunch break is up to me, But I am still limited to the half hour. They don’t dare trust a State Employee to manage their own hours.

      • R C Dean

        How do they know how long you are at lunch, anyway?

        What are they going to do about it if you take 45 minutes?

  9. Lachowsky

    Two weeks in a row the Hogs manage to lose games they could have won against BYU and at LSU. I see 6-6 in the future. We aint been the same since Petrino fucked us, and the student intern.

  10. robc

    Shitty Colorado Ballot Initiatives:

    Yesterday I received my booklet describing this year’s ballot initiatives. There are only tow, but they have a theme to them – “We stole this money fair and square and we want to keep it.”

    I will start with the slightly less bad one.

    Proposition II would allow the state to keep all of the new nicotine tax money they collected. They passed an additional tax in 2020, which was supposed to raise $186.5MM. Instead it raised $208MM. So $21.5MM+$2.15MM in interest has to be returned to wholesales and distributors and the tax rate lowered. Proposition II says fuck the constitution, we are keeping it all.

    Proposition HH guts TABOR. TABOR is the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, and it prevents state revenue from increasing more than population growth rate plus inflation rate. Any money collected over that is refunded. Mostly via a refund based on your stepped income level. But there are fights over the exact method every time. Last year it was split between a flat amount and a stepped amount.

    HH would make the following changes:

    1. Instead of growth+inflation, the cap would be growth+inflation+1%. Which basically allows overall state government to grow an additional percent per year. Gutting TABOR over time.
    2. For 2023, the refund would be a flat check, instead of depending on income level.
    3. It lowers property tax rates and caps their rate of increase. Property tax income is entirely for localities, their is no state property tax. So the state is deciding how much cities are allowed to tax. This one is a mixed bag. Not sure its the states business. But its the carrot to get this passed (along with #2 being a bribe to low income folks to vote for it – for a one year payoff)
    4. How will the bonus 1% be used? Up to (notice the weasle words) 20% will be used to reimburse local governments for lost property tax revenue? WTF? Then why bother? Up to $20MM will be used for rental assistance. The rest will be used for “education”, first to reimburse school districts for their reduced property tax revenue (again WTF?) and the rest for education related programs.

    HH is fucking stupid. Hopefully being an off year election there will be little incentive to go vote and those of us who hate this will be able to hold it off. The big benefit of CO’s tax system goes away if this passes.

    • Lachowsky

      “new nicotine tax money they collected.”

      We smokers really are the most persecuted minority in this country.

      • robc

        Hey, they only raised the tax from 40% to 50%.

      • robc

        Cigarette, alcohol, and gas excise taxes are the most regressive taxes we have.

        How often do you hear progressives calling for them to be lowered or eliminated?

      • Lachowsky

        Never. Progressives are the original prohibitionists. They are a puritanical lot at heart.

      • Fourscore

        I’m a free rider. By not smoking/drinking I’m getting the benefits of your taxes. Sorry, guys. I feel guilty but life isn’t fair.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s for your own good, peasant. We can’t have those poors driving, smoking, or drinking. They’d stink the place up.

      • Nephilium

        It’s to combat sin robc. Why are you on the side of sin?

      • robc

        More sin leads to more redemption. Duh.

        And since when do progressives believe in sin?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Where’s the lion?

    • Suthenboy

      Without going through the details what I am taking away from this is – The reasons that drew leftists who were being ass-raped in their home blue states are going away and incrementally being replaced with the ass-raping that leftists were trying to get away from. I am guessing there is no self – awareness of this at all.

      Q: Was this sort of thing happening before the blueing of CO? If so I will concede that I jumped to conclusions too quickly and that pols are just shitbirds of the same feather all around.

      • robc

        I dont know, but TABOR passed for a reason…which would be that the pols were spending too much. This forced them to cap spending and refund any overcollection. And it passed before the Bluening. TABOR was passed in 1992.

        Looking at history, there was a 5-year “timeout” from 2005-10, with a new baseline being set, but the money between the old TABOR baseline and the new Prop C baseline being used for specific purposes only. This does something similar, creating a new baseline, with the money between the C baseline and the new baseline being reserved for the purposes I mentioned.

      • robc

        Short version: pols are just shitbirds.

      • B.P.

        Here’s a book…

        https://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Adam-Schrager/dp/1936218003/

        Colorado was a red state of a live-and-let-live variety. Some smart analytics and a lot of money flipped the General Assembly. January 1, 2014, brought Colorado as the tip of the spear for legal recreational marijuana, with legions of large-backpack-wearing youngsters mouth-breathing at the sky in downtown Denver, seeking to participate in the marijuana industry. Many of them ended up participating in the industry by living in their cars and smoking marijuana. Subsequently, Denver became the young, hip place to be, and lots of 20-somethings with seemingly endless amounts of money moved in, and real estate skyrocketed. Leftist utopia ensued.

        Ironically, the father of TABOR moved to Colorado from Los Angeles.

      • rhywun

        The legal pot biz here was restricted to convicted felons. So you’ve got ex-cons opening pot stores and the public is not allowed to complain about their buddies hanging around the area all day because guess why. The one near me is on a busy pedestrianized street where – wait for it – there’s no smoking. Except for them, and you’re not allowed to complain about that either LOL.

    • "RFK Apologist"

      The problem that CO has run into and will continue to run into is that families aren’t moving there, just singles. We can pretend like that doesn’t matter or we can accept reality. College towns are rarely described as “good communities”. Ask San Francisco how childlessness is working out for them.

      • robc

        Larimer County, CO (home to CSU, a college town) — 2.38 people per household.
        Jefferson County, CO (home to Uof Louisville, but too big to be a college town) — 2.37 people per household.

        Okay, using the whole county may not be fair…lets try just Fort Collins — 2.36.

        So, uh, yeah.

        Boulder is 2.21, so maybe your argument has some validity there. And just for another random comparison, Athens-Clarke Co, GA is 2.22.

        The latter two are similar size, so the university may have a bigger effect. Fort Collins is bigger than either and Larimer County is much bigger.

        And for another comparison, city of Denver is 2.21. While it is obviously too big to be a college town, you may be correct on the singles moving here. I just hadn’t noticed it up here in the northern part of the state. Weld Co is 2.84. So UNC is not having an effect. But that is obviously higher than Larimer Co.

  11. juris imprudent

    Bama best one loss team – when that loss was at home to an over-rated Texas?

    As opposed to Notre Dame which was one coaching mistake away from beating the might tOS’ud salad?

    • robc

      TWO coaching mistakes.

      Actually three, as they did the same thing the week before.

      • juris imprudent

        One mistake, repeated. That’s failing to learn.

      • Nephilium

        So… good Catholics?

    • Lachowsky

      War is the health of the state.

    • WTF

      They’ll keep the grift going if they have to see the death of every last Ukrainian.

      • Lachowsky

        “And the Russians are dying. Best money we ever spent.”

        actual quote from Lindsay Graham.

      • Suthenboy

        ….and American.

    • kinnath

      I believe I said at the beginning that neither side could win this war, but Ukraine would lose faster.

    • The Other Kevin

      Just wait, the spring, er, summer, er, fall, er, WINTER offensive is really going to turn the tide.

      • R C Dean

        I think we’re to the point where that particular bit of BS could be emitted by either side.

    • Brochettaward

      Totally bogus comparison. (1) Territory: Ukraine now controls 87% of the country; (2) the war at this stage is not about territory but attrition of Russian equipment and capability. Ukraine is decisively winning the attrition battle. Verified numbers here:

      Go tell a Ukrainian soldier on the ground that they are fighting and losing their friends to bleed Russia dry so the West can pound its chest. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled to hear that.

      What this is really about is keeping the grift going as long as possible. It’s painfully clear Ukraine isn’t retaking that territory so all of these big offenses are nothing but wasteful boondoggles.

      • Brochettaward

        You go deeper into the comments, and you have people defending this war by comparing it to WW1. You know, it’s perfectly natural for a war to be at a complete stalemate for years and fighting to continue while nothing is achieved. Forget the fact that WW1 is noted for its utter futility and absolute mismanagement. And the only thing that broke the stalemate in WW1 was technological advancements and the influx of American soldiers finally breaking the Germans.

        The people defending this are just clowns. The post yesterday took the cake.

      • Brochettaward

        Christ almighty these historically illiterate fucks want to repeat a war that pretty much everyone today agrees should have been ended far sooner and which resulted n the most disastrous peace treaties in all of human history when it finally did end.

        Keep poking Russia. Something far worse than Putin will come out of that hellhole.

      • Lachowsky

        Like WW1 can be defended either. A bunch of European monarchs went to war against each other and committed the greatest slaughter of human beings in history…

        Until the consequences of the end of WW1 lead to a slaughter so grand that it demotes WW1 to second place 30 years later.

      • "RFK Apologist"

        There’s a reason why even some half educated yokel can tell you about WWII, but people with graduate degrees stare blankly when asked to explain what started the First World War. It’s clearly purposeful. WWII can be romanticized as a “good war”, because the Nazis were, objectively speaking, pretty awful. There’s no way to mythologize WWI. It was just utterly stupid.

      • prolefeed

        A handful of leaders started WW1. One guy started WW2. The sort of facts that get obscured by collective language describing countries as if they were people. See also: collective language describing guns as if those have volition.

      • R C Dean

        Ackshually, the greatest slaughter of human beings in history may have been committed by Genghis Khan’s Mongols. Good numbers are very hard to come by, but the lower bound of people killed by the Mongols is 10MM. The upper bound is probably 70MM. The likely number is 20 – 30MM. The vast majority were killed by hand, the Mongols being in the habit of killing everyone who resisted them (except those they took as slaves), and even killing captives who they didn’t think would make good slaves.

        Your point stands, nonetheless.

    • "RFK Apologist"

      Not even two years ago saying anything other than “Putler!” would have gotten you branded a Russian apologist even on this site. Why does it take people years to accept that the government is lying when it comes to war? People who could see through government lies on a normal day, suddenly believe everything the secretary of defense says during times of war. The American people fully deserve this.

      • Sean

        I don’t.

      • Lachowsky

        Yeah me neither. I never advocated for any of this shit.

      • "RFK Apologist"

        I hope Russia knows that

      • kinnath

        I think I said something along the lines of this was a conflict going back about a thousand years over land claimed by two ethnic groups. So, not our circus, not our monkeys.

        So fuck Ukraine and fuck Russia and fuck every asshole in DC promoting our involvement in this war.

  12. Sean

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/car-thieves-steal-nearly-every-car-from-philadelphia-dealer-open-less-than-a-week

    There are a couple of details that stand out. First, the robbers not only located the keys to the vehicles but also their titles. This is somewhat unusual, especially given that the car lot was open for less than one week at the time of the robbery. Kreigler claims that the newness of the business was the reason for the minimal security measures, with no security cameras capturing the robbery. Kreigler also says they had no insurance for the vehicles, and that City Motors only maintains liability coverage. “If we don’t recover the cars, we probably won’t survive it.”

    YOU’RE IN PHILLY. No insurance on the vehicles? Dumb ass.

    • robc

      I am assuming a scam and the owners were involved. Without insurance, not sure what the scam is, exactly. But there is one.

      • kinnath

        Bankruptcy. Money borrowed to buy vehicles. Vehicles stolen. No assets for the lenders to grab in bankruptcy.

      • robc

        There we go.

      • Suthenboy

        vehicles sold en mass to be shipped out of the country?

      • kinnath

        Right. The next step is where to sell the stolen cars that come with keys and titles. Overseas seems to make the most sense.

      • robc

        Do you need the titles for overseas sales?

      • kinnath

        I think yes. Looks like a valid import. Necessary to register and license for “honest” car owners.

      • NoDakMat

        I saw a documentary about that. Nicholas Cage was in it.

      • pistoffnick

        +1 Elinore

  13. Certified Public Asshat

    The CEO of Target made $17 million last year. Weird that they just don’t hire security guards in those three stores instead of closing them, isn’t it? Something is not right here. Target can’t afford security guards? Really? https://t.co/PRIWQrX0ZL— Jimmy Dore (@jimmy_dore) September 26, 2023

    Jimmy Dore, pretty decent leftie. Still retarded though.

    • The Other Kevin

      What would those security guards be authorized to do?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Watch over the tuck friendly bathing suits.

    • Lachowsky

      Leftist are immune to economics.

      Jimmy is great on what he is good on though.

    • Swiss Servator

      I left him a question – what do “security guards” do? They cannot arrest, the police in those jurisdictions will not arrest, and the prosecutors will not prosecute…so it is just an additional expense that does nothing.

      • kinnath

        Puts more people in harm’s way.

      • The Other Kevin

        And exposes the company to potentially huge lawsuits.

      • Gender Traitor

        It creates jobs, which is the sole purpose of any business! 😃

      • Nephilium

        It creates do nothing jobs (which could even potentially be unionized), which would be even better!

    • kinnath

      The man makes 17 mil to decide where to open stores; where to close stores; and how to run stores that are open.

      Fuck off commie.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Leftists, even the good ones, don’t get the idea of cutting your losses in business. Sometimes you just have to close down stores and fire people.

    • creech

      If Jimmy is such an expert, he ought to apply to be CEO at Target for, say, $5 mil. I’m sure the shareholders would be happy to fire their guy and hire Jimmy.

      • prolefeed

        I’m sure the Board of Directors would be delighted to save millions by hiring a CEO who thinks out of control losses due to thieves stealing and facing no consequences should be handled by — doing nothing.

  14. creech

    We’ll see how long tPSU holds on to #6 spot when they get whacked – as usual – by tOSU and Michigan.
    Coach Franklin and his subordinates just don’t seem to be able to get it done against those two.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    It never fucking ends. I just got a notice of previous owner’s unpaid property taxes. I assumed any unpaid taxes would have been taken out at closing. Also, it looks like they failed to properly record the subdivision of the property.

    Haha, sucker. Off to the assessor’s office.

    • prolefeed

      Are you liable for taxes owed by someone else? The fuck?

      • kinnath

        The Gov has a lien on the property. Selling the property doesn’t change that.

    • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

      Kermit the Frog does architecture.

      But, seriously, I think any solid student of Arch knows about falling waters problems. Still stunning though.

    • Sean

      Heh.