Thursday Morning Links

by | Oct 12, 2023 | Daily Links | 333 comments

Clutch

The Astros are on their way to the ALCS for the seventh year in a row. They’ll face the Rangers in an all-Texas affair.  The D-backs took down the Dodgers in hilarious sweeping fashion to punch their ticket, and the Phillies are on the brink of knocking threw Braves out as well.  What a great MLB playoff season it’s been so far. I guess that’s it, aside from the fact that it’s a big weekend for sports coming up.  All around the world, for that matter. Anyway, moving on to…the links!

Christ, what an asshole. If you can’t handle the job then quit.

Wait, this is still a thing? I had no idea.  Also, I don’t give a shit.

Nobody cares

Well, well, well….how surprising. Just to recap, he was 35 and groomed a 15 year old into having sex with him for years.  Oh, and he had AIDS when he did it.  And then he was going to blackmail the dude by threatening to release images of him engaged in sex online.  I wonder where all his supporters are now.

That’s it. Piss everybody off. Especially after they see your absurd demands. Please keep it up. You might kill the union movement for a generation with your absurdity.

I’d almost forgotten about this moron. And now that I’ve read that, I can go back to having all but forgotten her.

The progressive left supports this

Something something sowing, something something reaping. I suppose Froot Sooshi will come along and decry this on X (the platform formerly known as Twitter), but I’m cheering for it like crazy.

I’m sure it will all be spent wisely. After all, these are the peoples’ representatives and those who selflessly provide services for the people. SO I’m sure this will all work out just great.

This can’t be an actual thing, can it? LOL, that age group riding the fence between millennials and Gen Z are going to ruin everything for everyone.

Here’s that “more to the story” I was anticipating. Judge it as you please. But it sounds like this attorney is a douchebag with a history of trying to gin up controversy and make money by way of a race hustle.

Here is some upbeat fun stuff. Yeah….yeah. And here’s another. They were so much fun. And their new album that just came out os supposed to be pretty good. Enjoy.

And enjoy this cool Thirsday, dear friends.

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333 Comments

  1. SDF-7

    Christ, what an asshole. If you can’t handle the job then quit.

    Meh… melatonin is pretty harmless from what I recall. We used to use it at night to help our son get to sleep from like 4 to 7 I think (my wife used it to help her sleep at the time as well). If it was afternoon nap time and the special ed kids were rowdy and she had them — I can understand the instinct.

    A firm “Cut that shit out, we can’t do that without parental consent” should have sufficed, I would have thought. Not like she was hopping them up on Adderall or Ritalin or anything.

    Morning, all you happy folks.

    • UnCivilServant

      “You dosed them with Laudinum?”

      “The little shits just wouldn’t go to sleep!”

    • sloopyinca

      It’s different when it’s your kid at night and somebody else’s kid during the day just to make your job easier.

      • SDF-7

        Hence, a firm “Cut that shit out”, I would have thought.

      • Fourscore

        They’re 5 years old. They need play time, outdoors, recess to run, jump and be normal kids. Trying to regiment 5 year olds is tougher than herding bull frogs.

      • juris imprudent

        The Prussian method started young for a reason.

      • Lackadaisical

        If you drug my son I’ll shoot you. *shrug*

        You violate his bodily autonomy, I’ll do the same for you.

      • SDF-7

        That may be the disconnect here. I think of it more in the “natural supplement” category (it is basically a hormone and a low dose in the over-the-counter gummy form, iirc) than “drug”. Only one step above Acai Berries and other homeopathic shit in that from what I can tell it is a real thing in the body and it works.

        But I get your point.

      • Nephilium

        Melatonin has the potential to be dangerous. Probably no where near the dose he was giving, but still. Don’t give shit to someone else’s kids without their permission. Hell, I ask before offering candy, cookies, pop, and the like.

      • SDF-7

        Fair enough. Objection retracted, your honor.

      • Lachowsky

        When my daughter was 2 or so, she managed to get into the bottle of melatonin gummies and eat about half of it. We panicked a bit, called the pediatrician and he said dont worry. other than sleeping a little longer than normal, she was fine.

      • R.J.

        Two points, both valid:
        1. It is the law that she cannot provide anything, not even over the counter supplements, maybe not even a band aid without notifying parents. So a law was broken.
        2. I agree that melatonin is fairly benign, but still should never be given without parental notification and consent, see point 1.

      • The Last American Hero

        They can’t even give a kid a baby tylennol if they have a raging headache without gaining consent. Teacher was way the fuck out of line and should be shitcanned pour les autres.

    • Fatty Bolger

      They’re already well aware that they can’t give kids stuff like that, believe me.

  2. SDF-7

    Wait, this is still a thing? I had no idea. Also, I don’t give a shit.

    Can’t argue with you there… and given the quality of writing the last several years, not really the tactics I’d use when you’re worried about AI taking your jobs. I think AI would suck and be derivative at this point — but so would the current crop of writers.

    I’m all in favor of the current entertainment complexes collapsing and letting some newer, hungrier writers into the market — especially if they haven’t been socially bullied into The Message(tm) yet.

    • Fatty Bolger

      I’m sure an AI could read all 457* NCIS scripts, and easily come up with 24 more.

      * Yes, that’s the actual number

      • rhywun

        That’s impressive for a franchise I’ve never seen, and never will.

        I’m always coming across shows that had six-seven-eight year runs in the teens and might have even interested me if I had heard of them.

      • Drake

        I was halfheartedly watching the Wheel of Time on Prime. Seems like the writers randomly changed characters and plots. I understand they have to hack it down to fit 10 hours a season, but some of it is just to justify their salary and because they think they’re better than a best-selling author.

        Feed the whole series into an AI and have it spit out however many episode scripts you need – would be an improvement. Same with the Witcher.

        And why only 10? Cut out the writers, keep the rest of the budget reasonable, and do a network run of 30 episodes a season. Maybe make network TV watchable again.

      • WTF

        They changed plots and characters to give POC and women a more prominent heroic role. Completely missing the main points of the actual novels.

      • Drake

        Yes – although back when I read the novels, I often got fed up with Jordan’s female characters. So they don’t have to crank up the feminism too much with his storylines.

      • Nephilium

        The second season was a lot better than the first. The only thing that still irks me is the wildly diverse backwoods village in the Two Rivers. There was already plenty of opportunities to make other cultures more diverse. They’re also not doing much to explain the distances of travel involved, or the cultures of the various cities/regions they’re traveling through.

      • Lackadaisical

        I trudged through season 1, got excited to see season 2, just because I was a big fan of the books (I read all 12? that were out at the time in a year, which if you’re familiar with the length of the books is quite a lot of reading)

        Anyway, I couldn’t make it past an episode or two of the second season. Loial bothers me a lot because the actor is just not nearly big enough and just looks like a weird slightly large human.

        ‘The only thing that still irks me is the wildly diverse backwoods village in the Two Rivers.’

        Every backwoods village has at least 3 different races in it. It is known.

        Only close to possible if you have a very strict caste system, which isn’t evident at all.

      • The Last American Hero

        Every backwoods village in the Middle Ages?

      • Lackadaisical

        Not sure if I’m missing something or if I left off my ‘/s’ tag.

      • Grummun

        What I learned from reading The Terminal List (written by a gen-U-ine SEAL, so hopefully somewhat accurate) is that NCIS is not military, but a civilian organization, and naval personnel really don’t like it.

      • Bobarian LMD

        There is actually only 5 NCIS scripts. They’re modular and can be assembled in a large variety of ways.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      The actors are still striking, the writers are back at work.

  3. SDF-7

    Well, well, well….how surprising. Just to recap, he was 35 and groomed a 15 year old into having sex with him for years. Oh, and he had AIDS when he did it. And then he was going to blackmail the dude by threatening to release images of him engaged in sex online. I wonder where all his supporters are now.

    1) All of us here (pretty sure I can include myself) who’s first instinct was “7 shots at home at night sounds very personal” were on the money instinct wise. Yay us, I guess?

    2) Holy crap, yeah… in Texas that would definitely be a “He needed killin'” scenario. In my book, treatments or no treatments — if you’re going around exposing people to AIDS without informed consent (which I can’t imagine someone giving, but people do crazy/stupid things when infatuated), that’s at least manslaughter right there in my book. Doing it with a minor who can’t consent, much worse. Doing it with drugs and grooming… you’re trying for that Very Special Place in Hell.

    • juris imprudent

      Sometimes – rarely – but still, sometimes… the victim does deserve to be blamed.

    • rhywun

      that’s at least manslaughter right there in my book

      Not if you’re Scott Wiener, or “the most awful person on the planet”.

      • SDF-7

        One of the many reasons of the last few years I’ve put him in the “evil asshole” bucket, frankly. That and his apparent desire based on legislation he’s introduced or sponsored that seems designed to push the age of consent low enough for him to mess with kids legally.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, he’s got a basketful of the most destructive, radical legislation you’ve ever seen.

        I’d think even a typical Bay Area Democrat would blush at voting for that creep.

    • The Last American Hero

      Can’t imagine someone doing? Have you seen the commercials for the new crop of HIV drugs?

      It’s literally a license to hump anything that moves again, 1970’s pre-AIDS wild times with 2023 lack of stigma.

  4. SDF-7

    That’s it. Piss everybody off.

    I honestly don’t know why the Big 3 didn’t pack up and move everything to right-to-work states a decade or more ago (before the Bush/Obama bailouts, of course… after that I assume Chevy and Chrysler were the Fed’s aka Big Labor’s lapdogs… Ford still had a chance).

    I’m sure if they tried telling the UAW to fuck themselves, PPP and his lot would find a way to screw them harder than their current “Lose $40k an EV… make it up in volume!” idiotic plans.

    • R.J.

      I think cars got mandated to Hell just like insurance. There may not be a choice for the Big Three. No doubt there are laws on the books just about those three carmakers, which don’t apply to Honda, etc… who set up shop elsewhere.

    • juris imprudent

      This is the death rattle of industrial labor unions. The only relevance they cling to is history.

      • rhywun

        Too bad they won’t take pubsec unions down with them – those are doing far more damage to the country.

    • WTF

      Yeah, I think the NLRB prevents them from just closing everything in union states and moving it all to right to work states.

      • Bobarian LMD

        We’re the government and we’re here to help.

    • The Last American Hero

      They have moved a lot of production to Mexico.

      However, they get taxpayer bailouts if this stuff doesn’t work, so why give a fuck? The only people that get hurt are the tier 2 and 3 family owned suppliers that just saw their orders evaporate.

    • WTF

      The LGBT crowd is too busy being afraid of the “danger” posed by Trump to worry about radical Islamists.

      You know, the guy who was in favor of gay marriage when Obama was still saying he was opposed to it; the guy who held up a rainbow flag at one of his 2016 campaign rallies to the response of enthusiastic applause.

      • R.J.

        I know. I am constantly amazed at how this all went down. That democrat drug is some crazy stuff.

      • rhywun

        +1 pussy hat

      • WTF

        Yeah, thank God we have someone in the Whitehouse who doesn’t say mean things about his political opponents.

      • R.J.

        Ladies and gentleglibs, we can a contender for best /sarc of the day, and it’s only 8:13 CST.

  5. SDF-7

    I’m sure it will all be spent wisely.

    I’m sorry for the Glibs who live in / prefer cities — but this kind of ongoing crap (and the crime policies) is why I’m rooting for the commercial real estate collapse and WfH to dominate to break up these century old stagnant political machines who just think they can spend eternally and screw everyone who lives there. I feel no remorse if the major metropolises devolve into more smaller cities (for those who like city amenities) and more businesses in suburb style communities (because people are WfH and won’t want to drive far, so the business will come to them for service industries at least). Just because we had major urban centers in the past is no sign to me that we still need them around, and dilution of their political power might get states to have a chance at sanity again. Barring California — where I think they’ve chased most of the conservatives out regardless of location at this point through state-wide idiocies.

    • Nephilium

      What if we enjoy watching the fighting between the city and the state?

      • SDF-7

        Plan for more local venues and smaller, more personalized events? 😉

      • Nephilium

        Ahh… the scene I’ve been in for most of my adult life. 🙂

  6. rhywun

    Just to recap, he was 35 and groomed a 15 year old into having sex with him for years.  Oh, and he had AIDS when he did it.

    Wow, that’s worse than the “more to this story” I was expecting when this first broke and everybody was trying to pass it off as a “random killing”.

    • juris imprudent

      Almost a matter of how did he live this long?

      • Lackadaisical

        A good family would have taken care of it. Sad to see.

  7. SDF-7

    This can’t be an actual thing, can it?

    Top of the article I thought the brunch bingers were going old school Roman vomitoriums. But no… they’re just a bunch of intoxicated assholes. Ah well.

    • DrOtto

      Drinking super sweet alcoholic drinks while eating waffles all while likely hung over, what could possibly go wrong?

    • UnCivilServant

      A vomitorium is an amphitheater egress. The space vomits forth crowds. There was no dedicating puking room for Roman excesses.

      • R C Dean

        +1 Ackchually

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re not allowed to be wrong on the Internet. It’s the Law.

  8. WTF

    Something something sowing, something something reaping. I suppose Froot Sooshi will come along and decry this on X (the platform formerly known as Twitter), but I’m cheering for it like crazy.

    The little shits are already trying to walk it back:

    The backlash and possible blacklisting has led to a flurry of backpedaling by four of the initial student organizations attached to the inflammatory statement — while board members of other groups have quit to distance themselves.

    I hope they don’t get away with memory-holing their perfidy.

    • Nephilium

      Look fats. Those students are entitled to jobs at the law firms they want! It’s unfair that Zionist oppressors won’t hire them just because they blamed some peoplejews.

      • WTF

        I would be willing to bet a lot that they will blame their “blacklisting” on a conspiracy of (((them))).
        Because they sure as shit aren’t going to reflect and take responsibility for their own stupidity.

      • prolefeed

        It doesn’t take a conspiracy for CEOs who have Jewish employees, or maybe just have a functioning HR department, to think hiring these signatories who want some of their employees dead would be a bad idea.

    • rhywun

      An easy solution would be “don’t hire anyone from Harvard.”

      • DrOtto

        Oh the problems that would have saved us from decades ago.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      We already talked about Robby’s Mia Khalifa take I assume? ENB is out on maternity leave again (lol) so he should have Reason hire Khalifa for the spicy feminist takes.

    • Homple

      Somebody will hire the little shits anyway, at Harvard graduate salaries. They will be fine.

  9. RBS

    “which was from a masterclass for trial attorneys”

    Based on that hat alone, fuck that guy.

    • Fourscore

      We learned at home, reinforced in school, one does not wear a hat indoors. One does not wear headgear to the table at home or a restaurant. To this day, even in winter, when I go inside someone’s home, restaurant or office I take off my cap. Only exception is shopping in a store.

      • Grummun

        This right here. Pass a threshold, remove the hat.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yepper.

      • Pine_Tree

        This, yes. Men do not cover indoors. The Feed & Seed or equivalent lower-end commercial establishment is an obvious historical/cultural exception. But in homes or restaurants or other public spaces, no.

        That said, the aesthetic of “stylish hats indoors” is a thing in some places. So for those places, I thought the obvious distinction of hat=class and cap=trash was super-obvious. So yeah, I figured the no-cap rule as soon as this came out.

      • DrOtto

        One of the few shows that was great all the way through and knew when to quit.

      • RBS

        Ok, Boomers…

      • Swiss Servator

        If you are not bearing arms, off goes the cover when you come indoors.

        /AR something or another.

      • Lachowsky

        I have a severely receeding hairline. i wear my hat everywhere. to each their own.

      • Nephilium

        /runs clippers over head

        What was that?

      • Lachowsky

        I look like a dick with ears when I shave my head. sigh. I know. I will just have to deal with it.

      • Nephilium

        Then don’t go the Herr Starr route (mildly NSFW).

  10. rhywun

    Fears that some of the nation’s brightest young minds had doomed their futures led former Harvard President Larry Summers to caution against singling out students who were “naive and foolish” about what they were signing.

    Oh fuck off. These adults know what they’re doing. Many of them may have been brainwashed by the radicals that have taken control of that institution but at the end of the day they can take responsibility for their actions.

    • Nephilium

      You’ve got to love the defense that the students are too dumb to realize what signing their name to a document might mean.

      Our best and brightest.

      • Fourscore

        Well, if they can rescind (renege) on their college loans why not on a petition? It’s learned behavior.

      • Nephilium

        Here’s hoping none of them are planning on going into contract law…

    • Pine_Tree

      And Summers (and every last one of those “young minds”) would cheerfully have doomed the futures of any young student from flyover country who ever said anything out of line with the Proggie catechism during college.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        The young minds, yes, but Summers actually seems normal and he’s been on the receiving end of those young minds’ wrath.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Being that naive and foolish would seem to be a good reason not to hire them, yes?

    • WTF

      some of the nation’s brightest young minds

      Assertion without evidence.

    • R C Dean

      And not getting your first choice for your first job out of college isn’t exactly “dooming your future”.

      I’m torn on boycotting the entire membership of the organizations who signed. You joined voluntarily, you had (or should have had) some idea what the organization was about, so I see some basis for “Fire them all, let Starbucks sort them out”.

      The whole “our students are too stupid understand what they are reading” is pretty much a self-own by the university, and not exactly a good argument for hiring their grads.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        If you think these students are stupid, you should see the rest of our student body!

      • Fourscore

        There are some students’ bodies I might enjoy seeing. Some I definitely would not want to see.

  11. rhywun

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    🔥 Solve streak: 18

    • Rat on a train

      They hate birds. “tits” is an excluded word.

      • rhywun

        Right? That one kind of surprised me.

      • SDF-7

        #metoo

    • Ghostpatzer

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  12. Brawndo

    Kind of amazing that it took a pro-Palestinian letter to get CEOs to blacklist Harvard students, and not all the other insane shenanigans college students get up to these days. It’s certainly revealing where their priorities are (or aren’t)

    • SDF-7

      I can’t help but think it is because of the ratio of (((lawyers and judges))). If you’re rooting for killing the Senior Partners publicly, you can’t really blame them for not wanting you around.

      • Brawndo

        Sure. I also think it’s a mistake to conflate Jews with Israel. I think it’s more accurate to conflate Zionists with Israel. There’s plenty of Christian Zionists and lots of non Zionist Jews, especially in the US.

      • R C Dean

        When you attack a concert full of non-Israelis calling for peace, you’re not making fine distinctions between Zionists and non Zionists.

    • rhywun

      It’s not like the beliefs of these students wasn’t already well-known by everybody. Seems like there’s a “divest!” protest every other week. The only reason it’s drawing attention now is the magnitude of the recent atrocities.

      • The Other Kevin

        Once again the left went too far. They have a long history of that.

  13. SDF-7

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    • SDF-7

      Dammit… Brooks’d it, sorry. That was meant to be threaded below rhywun, obviously.

  14. R.J.

    “More to the Story” I knew it was the ball cap rule. I knew it.

  15. Lackadaisical

    “Post Oak Hotel General Manager Steven Chou told Chron that the hotel adheres to a strict “no ball caps” policy while still allowing cowboy hats. ”

    The yellow face of white supremacy.

    • blighted_non_millenial

      F’n goat ropers.

  16. R C Dean

    Once again the 48 hour proves out. Turns out the initial IDF statement that it had no info on the murdered and beheaded babies in the one kibbutz was premature. It’s now confirmed (not sure about the numbers). I gather there are photos, which I won’t go near, so if you need that level of confirmation you’ll need to dig them up yourself.

    • WTF

      Noble Palestinian “freedom fighters”.

      – CNN, probably

      • Ownbestenemy

        The takes are “propaganda! there were no heads cutoff! just killed! See what the Jews say to justify their genocide!!!!”

      • WTF

        We’ll see. It’s not like they haven’t killed children and babies. It’s not like they are averse to committing atrocities.

      • Lackadaisical

        Which side are we talking about again? >.>;

      • WTF

        Well, one side deliberately targets children and babies, and other civilians. The other side warns about impending strikes on military assets like rockets and artillery emplacements that are deliberately placed in civilian housing, schools, hospitals, etc. to try to minimize civilian casualties.

        So it should be pretty damn obvious.

      • R C Dean

        It was originally a foreign journalist. Then the IDF said we can’’t confirm that, and everybody went “see, all lies”. And now the IDF says, yeah, we have some confirmation, and apparently photos.

        We know Islamonutters kill babies. We know they behead people. Why wouldn’t they behead babies? It’s not like the story is kind of huge stretch.

      • Lachowsky

        Atrocity propaganda is as old as war itself. Best to take things with a grain of salt.

      • hayeksplosives

        I don’t know about babies, but there’s footage of the Hamas terrorists using shovels to behead men on the ground to finish them off last Saturday.

        I forced myself to watch the videos that Ben Shapiro collected up and posted, in which he urged us all to watch them all so that we would never forget.

        I have no sympathy for Hamas.not for the Palestinian people among whom they hide in Gaza.

      • Lachowsky

        And there is plenty of video of dead Palestinian children victim of Israeli bombs. This whole conflict is ugly as hell and is sure to get worse.

        And I would trust Ben neocon Shapiro just as much as Ismail Haniyeh when it comes to covering this matter.

      • WTF

        Both sides are not equivalent. This is so obvious it shouldn’t need to be said.

      • Lachowsky

        Its OK when we do it – Israeli Government.

      • WTF

        One side deliberately targets children and babies, and other civilians. The other side warns about impending strikes on military assets like rockets and artillery emplacements to try to minimize civilian casualties, because such assets are deliberately placed by the Gazans in civilian housing, schools, hospitals, etc. to try to get civilian casualties for propaganda purposes.

        It’s not a matter of “OK when we do it”, which is a deliberately dishonest take.

      • R C Dean

        Welp, there goes the echo chamber.

      • Lachowsky

        And one side keeps 2 million people in a multi generational open air prison, treats them like shit, limits their supplies of economic goods and thinks they can keep doing it in perpetuity.

        Like I said, this whole conflict is ugly as hell and is sure to get worse.

      • WTF

        Yeah, the Gazans would be peaceful model citizens of the world if it wasn’t for them damn nefarious JOOOOS!!

      • Lachowsky

        It’s not the Joos dumb dumb. It’s the Israeli government.

      • WTF

        Oh, I guess since you called me dumb dumb that means you win. Silly me, the Israeli government just happens to be Jewish.

      • Pine_Tree

        So is fog of war – no nefarious intent required, on any side.

        Stories get muddled in the best of times. When bullets and tears are flying, it’s super easy for “we found about 40 people dead in this area, including children” and “some of the bodies had been abused or beheaded” to get mashed into “40 babies beheaded!”.

        Propaganda happens on top of that. But the fog is the baseline condition.

  17. waffles

    the members of this comment section who predicted that the Biden administration would be characterized by wanton looting of the treasury were exactly right. this is what rule by looting looks like. it’s appalling.

  18. SDF-7

    In today’s No Shit news that the Idiots in Charge will ignore because it goes against their religion….

    • WTF

      Hell, I saw an article that they still won’t re-freeze the $6 billion transfer to Iran.

      • R C Dean

        Well, they’ve already spent their kickbacks, so . . .

      • The Other Kevin

        I don’t know that he can. The money is in Qatar and he’d have to convince them to give it back. Right?

      • The Last American Hero

        We have leverage over Qatar.

    • rhywun

      If Biden Really Wants to Help Israel the United States, He Must Stop the War on American Energy Now

      Also works.

      Every move this asshole makes is detrimental to the U.S.

    • The Other Kevin

      There are just a few key decisions that could put out country in a great strategic position. And that would affect the rest of the world.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      They will probably say they need to move more quickly to ban gas stoves and mandate EVs.

  19. Sensei

    Thank you NYP! They listed the groups that signed that the rest of the internet was trying to memory hole.

  20. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Does anyone have a link to the actual Harvard letter that’s got people losing their minds? I can find plenty of articles mentioning it but none have the original text.

    • WTF

      I think the actual document got memory-holed.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Gracias, it is a complicated situation as to the genesis of all this as the letter tries to indicate but laying all of the blame on the Israelis for the recent attack is just stupid and they should have known better. An attack against an occupier, whether you accept that characterization or not, shouldn’t include the deliberate murder of noncombatants. I don’t agree with the career cancellation aspect of what’s come of the letter but they really used bad judgement on this one.

      • R C Dean

        It’s a little early to say these college students had their entire careers destroyed, wouldn’t you think?

        Life lessons don’t always come cheap, you know.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Definitely a little early, it’s just my view that people should be allowed to say what they believe short of credible threats of violence or incitement and that anyone who posts here in any capacity should be wary of cancel culture if those conditions aren’t met. That being said, I do understand why people are pissed.

      • The Last American Hero

        I’m sure they can get good jobs at Aramco.

      • R C Dean

        People can say what they want.

        Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. And statements of support for rape, murder, kidnapping, and genocide are the kinds of speech that should have consequences. Not necessarily legal/governmental consequences, but social consequences.

        I wouldn’t share a table with these people, knowingly. No way in hell would I want to share a workplace with them. And no way in hell would I risk my company’s reputation and client base on them.

      • kinnath

        It is important for assholes to be free to be assholes in public. That way we can know who they are and shun them.

      • RBS

        Aren’t they law students? They can always hang their own shingle…

      • WTF

        I don’t agree with the career cancellation,

        They happily do that to conservatives for ridiculous bullshit, so I’m fine with making them live by their own rules.

      • Nephilium

        Yep. Live by cancelling people for things said decades ago, live by getting cancelled for something you said this week.

      • Not Adahn

        ^This. They made their bed, now get fucked in it.

      • robc

        And it doesn’t cancel their career, it just lowers their income a bit.

        Assuming they would do work of quality X, someone will be willing to pay .9X and increase their margins. That someone probably wont have a ((board of directors)).

      • Fatty Bolger

        They won’t lose their careers, they just made it a little harder to get one of those biglaw jobs they were all dreaming of.

      • Grumbletarian

        They’re proud of the petards they carry around, seems fine to hoist them by it now and then.

      • kinnath

        Harvard Jews for Liberation

        right

    • "RFK Jr Apologist"

      I think the offensive part is that a class of people who never serve in combat are justifying the murder of civilians. It’s a new level of chicken shit. I get upset at how rabid pro-Ukraine War colleges are. They’re not going to fight that war. Most of them come from long lines of cowards.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        That is offensive but as a result of these events I’ve seen justifications from the pro Israel side for glassing Gaza, ie mass murder, and the like. Should these people be cancelled also?

      • Not Adahn

        Do you think Berlin and Tokyo should have been off-limits in WWII?

        This is an actual, no-shit, for-reals war.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        No they shouldn’t have been off limits but carpet bombing for strategic reasons was necessitated by the lack of technology or the ability to be more precise which Israel does have. Mass bombing when there are alternatives shouldn’t be done.

      • WTF

        The only effective goal at this point is to completely and permanently destroy the will of the Gazans to continue to fight. The question is what will it take to accomplish that?

      • Grummun

        Firebombing Tokyo, as appalling as the results were, had military purpose. The Japanese military manufacturing base was not concentrated in large factories, it was spread out among lots of little shops that were scattered around residential areas. Even with so-called smart munitions, it would not have been possible to knock out the “military” targets without lots of “civilian” casualties. This is not to say that the enormous damage caused was not also intended to demoralize the Japanese people.

        Hamas purposefully embeds their “military” elements among the “civilian” population, specifically so Israel’s inevitable response will result in a pile of woman and children that Hamas can stand on to denounce Israel to credulous international sympathizers.

        Note that I keep quoting military and civilian. A nation’s civilian economy is what support the military ability to wage war. The civilian economy is a valid military target. You can find that morally abhorrent or point at some international law, but it is what it is.

      • Sensei

        This is my position on both Tokyo and here.

        Not much “industry” in Gaza, but I’m sure there is a thriving IED business.

      • rhywun

        I’m OK with it for truly beyond the pale stuff. And like someone said, it’s not like they will have any difficulty finding work somewhere.

  21. waffles

    my new nextdoor neighbor is a UAW guy working for Mack here in Pennsylvania. The union is fucking him. He’s got a kid, expensive mortgage. Really needs work. From his perspective he’s just being jerked around when all he really wants is to earn his paycheck.

    • Drake

      Meanwhile Honda is building my son a new truck this week in Alabama without any drama.

      • R.J.

        Those are nice. Congrats.

      • Lachowsky

        The Ridgeline is built using a unibody frame, a transverse-mounted engine, and is only offered in a crew–cab short-box configuration with one powertrain.

        Not exactly a truck, IMHO

      • Sensei

        But for like over 50% of truck buyers absolutely a better vehicle.

        We love ours, but I’m not towing a boat or full bed of heavy stuff.

        What completely sold me was the ride on road. The difference between that and my Jeep JK with solid axles front and rear was amazing.

    • Lachowsky

      We are extending our annual maintenance outage by a few days here because of the UAW and plan on taking down a week at thanksgiving and 2 at Christmas because of it. Wont affect me any, being in the maint dept we always have work, but its gonna screw a whole lot of my co workers on the production side.

  22. DrOtto

    Josh Kruger sounds like he was an aspiring Ed Buck. I wonder how many other kids he turned out? If the killer’s story is true, which it sounds like it is based on cell phone and other evidence in the story, I would have a hard time locking him up for life but for one small detail, he and his brother both seem to go scrapping at late hours which leads me to believe he’s also a catalytic converter thief, so fuck him.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      How about locking him up for stealing catalytic converters and letting him skate for killing his groomer-rapist?

      • Lachowsky

        i like it

      • DrOtto

        I could go for that, but as a mechanic that has the deal with customers/insurance (I have one story I’m dealing with right now that it long and exceptionally galling) over converter theft, my proposal for converter thieves is death by a car falling on the chest.

      • Ghostpatzer

        The Hunter precedent.

    • Ghostpatzer

      “All three people who are gonna watch your b*llsh*t video,” Hernandez quips.

      Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

    • rhywun

      This isn’t Hernandez’s first taste of Karl Marx’s boot. He is a former teacher who taught “FORCEFUL Cultural Revolution” against “Whiteness.” etc etc etc

      Why is every elected Democrat under the age of 40 or so a commie ratfucker now?

      • SDF-7

        Long March got the Education departments first, I assume. Possibly easier because (especially with the whole pedophilia scare times a while back) men were chased out of the profession increasingly, and it was easier to pitch Social Justice by appealing to emotion and all. (And no, not all women favor emotion over cold risk analysis/logic so don’t break out the Gauss rifle on me, HS… just talking tendencies and percentages here — especially for the types who go into Ed majors instead of hard sciences).

      • Lackadaisical

        Because every Democrat under 40 is a commie ratfucker?

      • Sean

        Checks out.

    • tripacer

      Oh. Nice marmot.

  23. Rebel Scum

    Texas kindergarten teacher resigns after giving melatonin gummies to special education students

    Should he have used Benadryl?

    • EvilSheldon

      Perhaps a little bit of vodka in a cherry coke?

      • Common Tater

        Cake. They all want cake.

  24. Rebel Scum

    Especially after they see your absurd demands.

    Pay me to do basically nothing, obviously.

    • UnCivilServant

      What’s so strange about that?

      Half our vendors send in that statement of work. Half our employees live by it.

      /State Worker

  25. Not Adahn

    NPR had another story about stoopid science denying rethuglikkkans, warning about the “trend” of SSDRs not vaccinating their pets against rabies, cuz OMB hates vaxes. They even had a perfect foil — a Texas woman who runs a Pit Bull rescue!

    And at the veeeery end of the story they had this brief aside about how rabies vaccination rates are unchanged from ten years ago.

  26. Rebel Scum

    The progressive left supports this

    They are the actual fascists/nazis/etc.

  27. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    Twins are out, Vikings suck but there is a glimmer of MN sports hope: The Wild are undefeated.

    Never much of a Blink guy, but they could certainly craft a pop song!

    • The Other Kevin

      Blackhawks are 1-1 and Bedard has 1 goal, 1 assist so far. It’s a young team and probably won’t win a ton, but at least they’re fun to watch and I’m looking forward to games again.

  28. R.J.

    Just a reminder to carry tomorrow. Friday the 13th is the military call to arms from Hamas. I expect the states to get hit.

    • Sean

      I carry everyday.

      • R.J.

        Do you bring the steaks too? Because that would be awesome.

      • Sean

        LOL, often times there are steak left overs for lunch.

      • UnCivilServant

        steak… leftovers?

        Does not compute.

      • rhywun

        Make it pork loins tomorrow.

      • Nephilium

        That sounds like an excellent idea.

      • UnCivilServant

        But then I’d have to go shopping first.

        And my policy of not letting fresh food sit would require I finish the chicken and lamb before anything I bought more recently. (It’s a policy to avoid spoilage.)

      • WTF

        I carry everyday.
        #Metoo

      • Sensei

        For those of us in NJ who can’t go through the insane hoops I say, “thank you”.

      • WTF

        The hoops have gotten less insane post Bruen and with much of Murphy’s attempts to circumvent it being enjoined by the courts. If you’re interested in getting a NJ carry permit I would be happy to help guide you. Other than the range qualification just about the entire process is online.

      • Sensei

        Thanks!

      • Dr Mossy Lawn

        I would recommend using Reloaderz

        https://www.reloaderznj.com/shop/#ccw

        They do not require a separate holster course before you do your qualification.

        Now the application process is via the same online system as the Firearms ID and Handgun purchase permit.

    • Lachowsky

      I doubt Hamas has as much influence as you think they do.

      • R.J.

        We have had millions of undocumented people come over the border. No clue who they are, where they went. That’s a risk.

      • Tundra

        Yep. Imagine what fuckery will ensue in the name of keeping us safe.

      • WTF

        Many of them military-age males. From God knows where with the intent to do who knows what. Even if 0.1% are actual terrorists, that’s still thousands, who can hit malls, schools, etc. I would not blithely dismiss the potential threat.

      • Tundra

        Some people have been screaming about the threat for two years. Crickets.

        We will be hit (probably already have) and then people will care, start screaming and the government will do what it does best.

        Happily, the fact that we are still an armed country might help mitigate how widespread it is.

      • SDF-7

        and the government will do what it does best.

        Help create the problem then grab more power to pretend to solve it?

        Yup… situation normal, all fucked up indeed.

      • The Other Kevin

        Yes. They’ll go after “white supremacists”. On the radio last night, ABC news reported two incidents where white supremacists were “emboldened” and they interviewed two people who saw small groups of people wearing swastikas and giving white power salutes. This was a serious story.

      • Nephilium

        At least locally to me, they do not. There’s a mosque around the corner from me, I should drive around and see if I can even find any Palestinian flags flying. I doubt anyone would have removed their Ukrainian flag for it here.

      • rhywun

        There are Palestinian flags all over my old neighborhood but that was the nature of the place. Basically Arab central for NYC.

        They protest a lot but honestly surprised there was little to no violence between them and the nearby Hasidim over the years.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Ford called the strike expansion “grossly irresponsible” but said it wasn’t surprising given the UAW leadership’s statements that it wanted to keep Detroit automakers hobbled with “industrial chaos.”

    That’s more like it. C’mon, show a little backbone, wouldja?

    • Sean

      The big three don’t care right now. Inventory is overflowing and interest rates are high.

      • Lachowsky

        I don’t know how anyone can afford new vehicles right now anyway. Interest rates are high and prices are record high. Seems like a terrible time to buy a vehicle.

      • Sean

        *shrug*

        I got mine way under MSRP.

      • R.J.

        I got mine about 6 months before you. $10,000 cheaper than now. And a massive trade-in. Win!

      • Sean

        Nice!

      • WTF

        My local Ford dealer currently has an incentive program on Broncos for 1.9% financing.

      • Tundra

        Get the extended warranty.

      • R.J.

        ^This.

      • WTF

        Huh, might explain the 1.9% interest financing incentive. I may try to talk my wife out of a Bronco.

  30. PieInTheSky

    Why Do American Homes Suck?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDXjSpoOQmQ

    yeah saying geothermal heating and heat pumps and energy recovery ventilator are common in Europe is utter nonsense. Which makes the video after 1:30 minutes pointless. But I do agree Americans homes suck. It is just that homes suck all over the world.

    • UnCivilServant

      There are a few things I could have better – more space, central air, a garage – but I wouldn’t rate this house a suck, just European in scale.

    • Not Adahn

      New US homes are great. The problem up here is the architecture is stupid. My parent’s home is a lesson on how a home should be built. The public areas flow from the front door onwards with the private areas discreetly tucked behind curves in the walls.

      • UnCivilServant

        Curves in walls?

        Clearly a defective structure.

      • R.J.

        Rounded corners are nice. Wish I had done that. Lots less repainting from bumping them.

    • kinnath

      The dude is an idiot

    • R.J.

      I am fairly pleased, but I got to pick my floor plan, insulation level, etc… Only thing I would change is I would like another room. I did not foresee the need for two home offices. Green technology works in some places, but having a heat pump in Texas would be ill-advised. You need hardcore AC.

    • Rat on a train

      Waah, the US isn’t a unitary state.

      • SDF-7

        Fucking hell I need to get out of California… my brain first read that as “a urinary state”, which doesn’t fit most of the rest of the country hopefully.

      • Rat on a train

        The Golden Shower State

    • Nephilium

      I’d like a bigger kitchen, but there’s no easy way to expand it in the current house. It would require moving exterior walls. But the house is nicely insulated, shaded by trees, and has easy access to the park system as well as the freeways.

    • Mojeaux

      I am convinced you and I watch the same videos. That popped up in my feed and I just hadn’t gotten around to watching it yet.

    • Mojeaux

      I stopped the vid at “heat pump.” That shit doesn’t work well where I live.

      • Raven Nation

        Same with swamp coolers. My in-laws have one on the mountains of CO and it works pretty well. Not going to work out here.

      • Nephilium

        Ugh… Cedar Point (and some of the local fairgrounds) try to use swamp coolers here in Ohio. By the lake, where there’s usually high enough humidity to make them worthless.

      • Mojeaux

        Never heard of a swamp cooler until I was 18 years old and landed myself at BYU. dafuq.

        Of course, it was hot as hell during the day, but I was at my aunt’s house, sleeping on the couch, right underneath a wide-open window bringing in that sweet, sweet cold desert night air.

        If I miss nothing else about Utah, I miss how the air smells without humidity.

    • Lackadaisical

      Everything about America is bad, and why can’t we be just like japan/europe/wherever. /A certain Kind of Youtuber

      Really makes you wonder how we’re richer and more powerful all while being so inferior.

      • UnCivilServant

        We are clearly living off the hard work and productivity of the rest of the world as exploitative capitalist colonial overseers.

  31. The Other Kevin

    ((They)) may not run the world, but ((they)) own businesses and are big Dem donors. And ((they)) are not having any of this decolonization bullshit.

    It’s nice to see at least some things falling apart for the left these days.

    • creech

      Can one of (((you))) explain the affinity (((they))) seem to have for the Democrat party? After all, Roosevelt’s administration actually turned away Jews fleeing Hitler. Is it something to do with traditional right wing parties in Europe hating Jews and that transfers to Republicans here just because they are described as “right wing?”

      • R C Dean

        My theory: Most Jews in the US are (a) not particularly religiously observant and (b) live in cities. Both of those point toward being big government leftists, which is to say, Dems.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t know how anyone can afford new vehicles right now anyway. Interest rates are high and prices are record high. Seems like a terrible time to buy a vehicle.

    It’s almost as if the “Detroit 3” couldn’t give a fuck less about the people who buy cars. They work for the government.

    • rhywun

      And the unions couldn’t give a fuck less about the people who build cars.

      Neat symmetry there.

    • Mojeaux

      I just dropped $1,000 on car repairs. There is no way in hell we could afford a new or even new-to-us car.

  33. PieInTheSky

    Between Ukraine and Israel the world will run out of ammo. I wonder how many carbon credits Hamas needed to buy to offset the CO2

    • Mojeaux

      Pie: As always, asking the important questions.

    • Drake

      What is this Ukraine place you speak of? The war in the Middle East is the perfect opportunity to memory hole that place, stop taking Zelensky’s calls, and hope it all quietly goes away.

  34. Rebel Scum

    But keep paying your taxes though.

    My wife and I have finally gotten ourselves on the way home to the US from Israel after days of fear and tremendous anxiety. Our original flight was canceled.

    While Poland, Hungary, Brazil, Romania, and other countries sent planes to bring their citizens home from the war zone, our government told us to fend for ourselves. I literally called our embassy asking for help and was essentially told to pound sand.

    Is this what it means to be an American abroad?

    Almost all American airlines received taxpayer bailouts, and they were the first to abandon us. They were the first to cancel all flights.

    • Homple

      “Is this what it means to be an American abroad?”

      It’s certainly what it means to be a palefaced, straight American citizen at home. Why expect anything different when out of the country?

    • Drake

      Yes! The same shit all over again and neither side does a thing to avoid it. Sure Israel can defend itself and Palestinians can too. Just don’t ask me to invest my emotions or money into it.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Promissory, grr.

      Soary!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, that’s pathetic. Seems we have more than plenty of money for other nations and people and jack shit for our own.

      • Lachowsky

        bingo.

      • Homple

        Noticed that, did you?

    • B.P.

      We need all that fire power there to battle the Imperial Hamas Navy near whatever the Mediterranean equivalent of Midway Island is.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Why won’t Republicans govern?

    But many of the newcomers in the 114th Congress were products of the prevailing political climate. Throughout that period, and going back to the Republican Revolution of 1994, which set us on this path, we’ve seen the House GOP caucus become steadily more conservative as more liberal and moderate members either retired or lost primaries to more ideologically pure opponents. At the same time, modern conservative media exploded, first as talk radio and cable networks, then as blogs and other websites. An internal war on “Republicans in Name Only” became the name of the game, promoting first the tea party and later its eventual sublimation into the MAGA movement.

    Taken altogether, that means we’ve had more than a decade of freshman classes that were filled with House members who have never learned the basic motor functions of governing. Moreover, many of them have had no incentive to do so. The House during the Trump administration was packed with far-right members who were still overruled when it came to the sort of deep spending cuts they’ve made their main policy demand. Instead, the more seasoned legislators steered the course on the Hill, while the House Freedom Caucus and other like-minded members jeered from the sidelines.

    ——-

    The far right of the GOP caucus accused McCarthy of betraying it in his deals on the debt ceiling and avoiding a shutdown. That may be true on one level, but it’s clear that the real “betrayal” here was that he was willing to make the necessary compromises to keep the House — and the government — actually functioning. Scalise may avoid a fate similar to McCarthy’s if he becomes speaker. But the very forces that have put the GOP constantly within reach of winning a majority in elections will make the next speaker’s job difficult, if not impossible, as the clock ticks down toward another possible government shutdown.

    Everybody knows governing is defined as passing more laws and spending money in ever-increasing amounts.

    • Rebel Scum

      keep the House — and the government — actually functioning

      But it does not actually function for the benefit of Americans. Dissolve it.

    • rhywun

      we’ve seen the House GOP caucus become steadily more conservative

      LOL never change, MSNBC.

    • creech

      “he was willing to make the necessary compromises to keep the House — and the government — actually functioning.”
      Well, if that is so admirable and “necessary,” then why didn’t 10 Democrats come to his aid and vote for McCarthy as Speaker?? If it is so horrible that 8 “hard right MAGA Republicans” didn’t tow the lion, then why didn’t the Dems make the compromise and keep McCarthy in and “chaos” out? Politics as usual.

    • Rebel Scum

      hamas is not palestine and palestine is not hamas

      And Palestine/Canaan/Israel is not the muslim holy land.

      • The Last American Hero

        It is if you squint hard enough at that rock that looks kind of like words in the right light. It’s pretty much the Jesus toast of religious holy sites.

    • SDF-7

      Heh. I like the “Chickens for KFC” pic.

      • SDF-7

        Oh God… don’t wade into the comments there… Zerohenge-worthy cesspit.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Can’t say I’ve ever seen a swastika around here other than in a museum or scrawled on the wall of a Portolet or some other similar shitter.

    • Pine_Tree

      “…conservative marches in the South with swastikas all the time!” No. There are not. The made-up Southerners that live in their minds are everybody’s favorite do-everything bugaboo.

      And otherwise smart people will believe any crazy shit (as above) as long as you accuse one of us of doing it.

      Hell, some of YOU do.

      • SDF-7

        Growing up mostly in the South — what still stood out to me was the flagrant and casual racism I saw visiting relatives in Michigan that would have seriously gotten someone’s ass whupped back in the Southeast. So I take what folks in the North / NorthEast say about racism down South with an extremely large grain of salt ever since.

      • R C Dean

        I moved from Richmond VA to Boston in 1984, and back again in 1987. Race relations in Richmond were fine. Race relations in Boston were shit.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Global warming and resurgent Nazism are existential threats, and don’t you forget it.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Except for the Azov Battalion, those Nat Socs are alright.

      • UnCivilServant

        Is there anything left of those guys?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They’ve been pretty well gutted and reconstituted several times I think but they’re still around and there are other units too-they’re just the most famous.

    • Rebel Scum

      “Prepare for further Tasking as a result of Emerging Events.”

      Off to WWIII we go.

    • WTF

      “WAR BONERS, DEPLOY!”

      • SDF-7

        Fuck, dude… SF was yesterday. Thanks for that Little Lindsey Graham leading the charge mental image. Bleck.

    • Lachowsky

      God Damn. We haven’t even finished leaving the middle east and now here we go back again.

      • Tundra

        This one is actually more worrying to me than sending the carriers to the Med.

      • WTF

        Yeah, putting some MEUs into the shit is just guaranteed to escalate quickly.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Has Vice President Harris issued a statement condemning gun violence in Israel yet? Disarm the Middle East.

    • Rebel Scum

      She’s been cackling since the hamas incursion began.

      • R.J.

        Cackula has been busy ducking the fact she’s the Border Czar.

    • Pine_Tree

      I think they have a hard-core lockdown on her right now.

      Too scared she’ll ramble along until she spouts out “death to Israel”, followed by deranged cackling.

      Would probably be a bad look.

  38. Rebel Scum

    We just did this in Hawaii.

    Awful situation unfolding right now in Villa Carlos Paz, Argentina as a fast-moving wildfire is approaching the city. Multiple structures on fire. Urgent evacuations are underway.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    High dive platform of hate

    X has “identified and removed hundreds of Hamas-affiliated accounts” since the start of the war, Yaccarino said.

    The CEO also detailed the company’s policies around violent speech, synthetic or manipulated media and perpetrators of violent attacks.

    “X is committed to serving the public conversation, especially in critical moments like this and understands the importance of addressing any illegal content that may be disseminated through the platform,” Yaccarino said.

    “There is no place on X for terrorist organizations or violent extremist groups and we continue to remove such accounts in real time, including proactive efforts.”

    Yaccarino’s letter comes after Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner for internal market, on Wednesday gave X 24 hours to respond to a notice in which he said the EU has “indications” that X is “being used to disseminate illegal content and disinformation in the EU” after the “terrorist attacks carried out by Hamas against Israel.”

    I love how everybody uses vague categorizations of hate speech and disinformation, allowing the audience to fill in the blanks.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Musk hiring her was an enormous fucking mistake.

    • R C Dean

      My question:

      Hamas hasn’t changed. THey’ve always murdered, raped, and kidnapped civilians, and bragged about it. So why were their accounts on X until this week?

  40. Tundra

    In too local groomer news

    So glad my kids are grown.

    Now if I can just keep them from being fed to the war pigs.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “Why would a school ask 10-year-olds if they’re trans?”
      That have a need to know obviously. After all, those genitals and breasts aren’t going to cut off themselves. But seriously, it’s so school and other officials can begin moving them towards a physical transition.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Lunatic fringe

    The Democratic Socialists of America is coming apart at the seams.

    Rep. Jamaal Bowman let his membership lapse. Colleague Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ripped the New York chapter over a pro-Palestinian rally Sunday. And others on the left are struggling to reconcile their views with the group — even disavowing it amid criticism from across the political spectrum.

    The reckoning for the DSA in the wake of Hamas’ attacks on Israel could mark a realignment at the extreme end of the Democratic Party. Progressive politicians looking for an endorsement from the DSA have long faced a Middle East litmus test, answering questions about whether they’ll boycott Israel and if they back Palestinians “living under occupation.”

    The brutality Saturday — violence of a greater scope and intensity than earlier Israeli-Palestinian clashes — has shaken some who had been boosted by the DSA. And the blowback has been felt across Congress, statehouses and city halls where the party has made inroads.

    In Michigan, Rep. Shri Thanedar officially renounced his DSA membership, saying in a statement Wednesday that he won’t “associate with an organization unwilling to call out terrorism in all its forms.”

    In Los Angeles, DSA-endorsed City Council member Nithya Raman rejected the group’s rhetoric late Tuesday, saying a national DSA statement on the attacks “failed to reckon with the horrors committed by Hamas and was unacceptably devoid of empathy for communities in Israel.”

    In New York, the DSA lost one of its most prominent members in Bowman, a vocal critic of the Israeli government. His spokesperson confirmed Wednesday that he let his membership expire last year following disagreements on funding Israel’s missile defense system.

    The bloodshed and budding war in Israel are shining a brighter spotlight on tensions between the often younger, left-leaning DSA-backed politicians and their mainstream Democratic colleagues.

    It’s too bad none of those people have the good sense to reject the DSA because they are avowed socialists and want to destroy the economy.

    • R.J.

      I will take what I can get. Even prior membership to that club is going to be an effective bludgeon to remove democrats from power.

    • creech

      What, no descriptions about the Democrats “in chaos?” I guess that only applies to Republicans who, as one would expect, have differences of opinion within their ranks too.

    • R C Dean

      What a load of shit. Hamas is what it has always been. Professing shock and dismay at this point doesn’t reveal your moral character and discernment. The opposite, in fact. You are quitting DSA because you were either too stupid to realize what Hamas has always been, or because the PR heat has gotten too bad for you. Neither is exactly a sign of good character and judgment.

      • Sean

        because the PR heat has gotten too bad for you

        I’m thinking this.

    • Sean

      *sigh*

    • Lachowsky

      Hey man, Maintaining a world empire is expensive.

    • Rebel Scum

      The irony being that the war will only increase the debt.

    • Rat on a train

      2021-01-20: $27,751,896,236,414.77
      2023-10-10: $33,550,239,305,902.84
      $5.8T in less than 3 years

      • Tundra

        It took until 1975 to hit 500 billion. We just did it in three weeks.

      • Rat on a train

        Progress! We can get it done faster in the future.

      • creech

        And a 20% inflation tax on consumers to boot!

      • Rat on a train

        Damn Republicans

  42. Sensei

    Broke down and joined the modern era and finally purchased a pair of completely wireless ear buds. Wanted something neutral sounding and relatively bug free in implementation.

    It took four tries, but I think Google finally nailed its Apple competition for those of us no in the Apple universe. Was able to pick up the Google Pixel Buds Pro for $20 off their usual $139 discounted price ($199 list).

    https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/google/pixel-buds-pro-truly-wireless

    The sound profile graph is what’s most important to me. It shows how true the response is the so called Harman Curve. This was one of the few proper studies of what kind of sound that people prefer. You can see that it’s mostly compliant until higher frequencies That’s to be expected as that’s where the ear’s pinna comes into the equation. There is also much less music information there.

    At $139 I think they are good and at $119 I can highly recommend.

    • Pine_Tree

      I didn’t break down and do it on my own, but Mrs. Tree got me a set for Christmas last year. So I grudgingly tried them and am now a huge fan, dammit.

      My problem with them in the past has always been the users, not the tech. You all know what I mean. You don’t notice they’re wearing the things and try to ask somebody a question or start a conversation and they ignore you, then pause, look at you blankly for 2-3 seconds and then reach up and very deliberately double-tap their ear, then deign to listen to you.

      • Sensei

        Very much that.

        I won’t wear them on the streets of NYC because of a lack of situational awareness. I’m astounded by the folks blindly, err deafly, walking oblivious to either physical mayhem or vehicular mayhem.

  43. R.J.

    I know, I know. It’s not even Halloween yet. But look at this Advent calendar:

    https://a.co/d/cV0ey4g

    It’s a Die Hard one, with Hans dropped off the building. Every day he gets closer to the ground.

  44. Rat on a train

    ‘Young Turks’ host Cenk Uygur announces primary bid against Biden

    Uygur has a big obstacle to overcome in his run for the White House.

    Born in Istanbul, Turkey, Uygur immigrated to the U.S. at 8 years old. He believes that the Constitution’s “Natural Born Citizen” clause will not prevent him in his effort, believing that he can win the battle in the Supreme Court.

    “I have lawyered up,” Uygur said. “I have the same lawyer [Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)] used in both of his presidential runs. And my guess is I’m going to have some strong allies in this. Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’m going to the Supreme Court. Either I’m going to win or I’m going to lose. Now this case is on our side. The precedent is definitely on our side. So, what are you going to do, brother?

    • UnCivilServant

      I hope this backfires to the point where the courts decide he’s not even a citizen and needs to go home.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Deport Biden too.

      • rhywun

        I support this message.

      • kinnath

        All of them?

      • creech

        If he’s a naturalized citizen, then he took an oath to support the Constitution. Looks like he’s going against the Constitution in this case and that might be grounds to revoke his citizenship?

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Uygur has a big obstacle to overcome in his run for the White House.

    Is that in addition to the fact nobody with half a brain would vote for him?

    • Sean

      That’s still a lot of votes…

      • R.J.

        Ha! Beat me to it.

    • UnCivilServant

      That has not been a barrier to attaining office in this country since… ever.

    • Lachowsky

      fetterman would like a word

      • creech

        All the half-brains in Penna. voted for Sen. Slob. Unfortunately,, they are the voting majority in the Keystone State.