Tuesday Morning Links

by | Dec 12, 2023 | Daily Links | 226 comments

Ha-Ha!

A couple of upsets in the NFL last night. Man, there’s either a lot of parity this year or a lot of mediocrity. I can’t decide which I think it is.  The San Antonio Spurs have lost 17 straight. I don’t really watch the NBA much but I will say this couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. I wonder when Popovich will blame MAGA republicans for what’s happening to him. UCL final group matches are today and tomorrow and there’s still a bit of drama left.  And that’s it for sports.

This guy is an asshole. That is certainly not up for dispute.  But I’m still confused with this guilty plea and sentence for actions that are idiotic, but are they really criminal?

Not a victim

“Being exposed” is doing an awful lot of work here. You know, since she released them on the internet herself.

Don’t care. Find another mark for your grift. We’re all done funding it here, I hope.

Get a load of this guy. I don’t think his comments will go over very well, even in that city. Not anymore.

Oof, that’s a lot of money. But it looks like the lady will keep her job.  I guess they can just open up a middle eastern studies program and replace that billion in a few days. She could even plagiarize the fundraising emails from Penn!

An upgrade in Chicago

So stunning and brave. These lovely kids, willing to take a day off from school for something going on half a world away. I’m sure they are really dedicated to the cause and not just wanting to cut for a day.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Now that’s funny.

See how easy that was? That’s how it works. You don’t like the laws in one state, you freely travel to another.  Problem solved.

I haven’t played these guys in a while. And I apologize. Because they’re just delightful. So enjoy them.

And enjoy this lovely Tuesday, dear friends.

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226 Comments

  1. Rat on a train

    This happens to women every day
    I believe it only happens to women streaming sex acts.

    • SDF-7

      “But I expected to fully control information I put on the Internet!”

      • AlexinCT

        I have a right to privacy even though I am putting this all out there!

      • bacon-magic

        My eyes are up here!

      • AlexinCT

        Not your brown eye, babe!

      • slumbrew

        I approve of Judy Greer whipping them out.

      • Nephilium

        She does just that in the one season show Reboot on Hulu.

      • slumbrew

        *furiously scribbles note*

      • ron73440

        That show was great.

        I still quote Gob, “I made a huge mistake”.

      • Fatty Bolger

        They got a lot of mileage out of that. “I’ve made a huge tiny mistake.”

    • ron73440

      She’s upset because the videos were put on a different website than the one she used.

      Not sure I am following her logic.

      Should Tic Toc people be upset at all of the compilation videos on YouTube?

      Also, she has to know opposition research is a thing.

      • EvilSheldon

        A fundamental requirement of a politician, is an unshakable belief that nothing is ever their fault.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Gibson streamed the acts on a site that wasn’t password-protected and had thousands of followers.

      Speaking to ABC News, Gibson emphasized the need to start “educating our society on the idea of consent” — especially in the digital age.

      For those thousands of eyes only.

      • Nephilium

        You mean like not uploading a video to a public site and expecting it to stay private?

      • Rat on a train

        I did not intend for my opponents to see it.

  2. SDF-7

    But I’m still confused with this guilty plea and sentence for actions that are idiotic, but are they really criminal?

    If one goes along with the incorporation rulings of the last 150 years or so and holds that the First Amendment applies to the states as well as the Fed… I think the clear answer is “Of course not”. But racism is icky, fire in a crowded theater… governments always find a way to outlaw unpopular speech.

    Just black pill me right off on the first link, why dont’cha, Sloopy? Good morning..

    Of course — I’m already in a terrible mood after skimming the reminder of this shitshow in what I consider my home state. Talk about bloody depressing to start the day.

    • sloopyinca

      It’s certainly not my goal to black-pill anybody with my links. But now that I think about it, I wonder if that’s what I’ve been doing for the last several months.

      And if I have inadvertently been doing so, I need to radically change up my links style. I thought we were all just laughing at the stupidity, not letting it affect us.

      • SDF-7

        I don’t blame you — just reality, dude. The complete disregard for even the pretense of former social norms will do that.

      • Homple

        I remember when social norms were repressive and bigoted.

        Turns out that slope we got on was mighty slippery.

      • AlexinCT

        I remember when they made fun of people pointing out the slippery slope was a thing….

        In hindsight these people sure were right in so many cases..

      • robc

        There are things that are logical fallacies, that arent practical fallacies.

        The slippery slope being one of them.

      • robc

        I prefer, “The safest road to hell is the gradual one – the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts.” — CS Lewis

      • AlexinCT

        And always paved by those that claim they have good intentions…

      • prolefeed

        A slippery slope is only a logical fallacy when no slippery slope exists for that particular series of events.

        Claiming no slippery slopes ever exist is a logical fallacy, though not sure which one(s) without doing research.

      • Not Adahn

        I have been to Quebec in the winter.

        Slippery slopes are real.

      • Drake

        This – the news itself black pills people every day. Was at a Christmas party over the weekend talking to a guy a few years older than me. He talked about how he drives a lot for work and used to listen to news shows. Now they are all incredibly depressing or obvious lies and it’s getting him down.

      • Suthenboy

        What SDF-& said.
        It is not your links, it is reality. It’s difficult to keep the spirits up when we are drowning in an ocean of idiocy and corruption with no life raft in sight.
        I recently told someone that the portrayal in The Postman where Costner’s character is snowed in in the mountains for a season with a woman is the ideal life every man wants.
        I was wrong. Not every man is happy with being left alone, self-sufficient with the company of a good woman. Not at all. Some people just CANT QUIT FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

      • Drake

        I take news in small doses these days. Paying too much attention will only lead to depression.

    • WTF

      So the guy basically got a minimum of 4 years in jail for calling someone mean names.
      But Trump is going to usher in a dictatorship.

      • SDF-7

        And magic mushrooms… but I don’t know the relative ratios and of course adults being able to use substances on their own property is a whole other rant (especially around these parts).

      • WTF

        Of course the search of his house to find the mushrooms was based on mean name calling, so it was an unlawful search and seizure.

      • WTF

        That makes a bit more sense then.

      • Suthenboy

        BB pellets?

      • SDF-7

        You know, Jack… the pellets that they shoot from air rifles after leaving their banged up razors to get rusty in the rain barrels. They’re what they train little kids on until they can give them AR-15s which can blow huge holes in your torso. No lie, man! And they use them to shoot tanks — and that’s why you need F-15s to take on the government with your 100 magazine clips because your pistol is a machine gun!

      • Suthenboy

        *applause*

      • Not Adahn

        Honestly, even if I had any sympathy, it would have been gone as soon as he uttered this garbage:

        “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future,” he told the judge during a 15-minute statement. “I want to commit to rebuild the community.”

        Here’s some speedy trial tho:

        Mathews has been in custody since his arrest. He will get credit for the 886 days spent in jail

    • Suthenboy

      I think it is the threat part that got him in hot water. 8 years seems a bit much. I can see someone dealing with an HOA losing their shit.

      • WTF

        Well, they claim there was a threat, without ever saying exactly what this “threat” was. And they spend a lot of ink going on about “racial slurs”, so I’m a bit
        skeptical about an actual overt threat.

      • Fatty Bolger

        That’s just CNN garbage reporting. I’m sure the morons at CNN think people should go to jail for a decade for saying mean things, as long as it’s certain people saying it to certain other people. But there are better sources that go into the other stuff he was doing.

    • Tonio

      Thanks for that nutpunch and rage trigger.

      • SDF-7

        The Georgia link? Yeah, sorry… as much as it sickens and enrages me — I assume it is worse for you because it plays up all the worse stereotypes the haters have for the gay community. (As if there haven’t been these sick bastards of every stripe throughout history as f’ing depressing as that is.. My religion being unfortunately the current standard bearer in society on that front…)

      • Sensei

        Oh heck, you made me click the link.

        Wow…

    • ron73440

      I never heard of that story, can’t imagine why.

      Shitshow does not begin to describe it.

  3. SDF-7

    We’re all done funding it here, I hope.

    Your lips to God’s ears. And no, Austin — I don’t buy that the Russians will suddenly be rolling through Poland and we’ll have to bring back the draft.

    Let.

    Europe.

    Arm.

    Itself.

    (fuckers)

    • WTF

      Russians will suddenly be rolling through Poland

      The Polish army would chew them up and spit them out at this point.

      • Not Adahn

        The way NPR is gushing over the new Polish government, I’d expect them to surrender.

  4. SDF-7

    I don’t think his comments will go over very well, even in that city. Not anymore.

    You’re way more optimistic than I am. I’ve seen no sign that SF or Sacramento have learned any damned thing other than “We can cover it up when we need to kowtow to our true masters.” apparently.

  5. rhywun

    “The biggest driver of why folks are on the street is because they lost their jobs, income or were evicted from their homes, usually for not being able to pay the rent.”

    Wrong.

    Wow, that article is a goldmine of whoppers.

    • SDF-7

      You know that if they say “The majority of these people are on the street here because we make it easy for them to just hang out and do their drug of choice in a reasonable comfortable climate year round — now keep paying for their needles, food and drugs while dodging them, the criminals and mentally unstable among them and their excrement tax cattle!” they wouldn’t get as much grift to slosh into their troughs…

      So what else can we expect?

      • Homple

        All we need to do to fix the problem is to legalize drugs. Then they could afford housing and their drugs.

        Right?

      • CatchTheCarp

        I remember visiting San Francisco for a work related convention/junket 15 years ago. I had to walk from my hotel to the Moscone center each day, I was shocked and astounded by the number of bums sleeping on the sidewalk and storefronts that I had to step over/around to get there. And then navigate a phalanx of pan handlers on the return trip. I mentioned this to a couple of co-workers who lived there, they seemed to view it as a minor nuisance, like pigeons.

  6. SDF-7

    I’m sure they are really dedicated to the cause and not just wanting to cut for a day.

    Maybe Hamas will return the favor and take a day off in sympathy for all the kids killed in Chicago by their fucked up governance. See if the UN has any comment on that beyond gun grabbing.

    • sloopyinca

      Sadly, I’m afraid they’d just blame Indiana.

      • The Other Kevin

        🙁

  7. SDF-7

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Now that’s funny.

    That this worthless, lying piece of crap is anywhere near viable for any public office says more about California than I ever could.

    Show us your “definite proof” of Russian collusion, asshole. You lying fuck doing your damnedest to tear this country apart just for your own political power and graft. And keep leaking everything from intelligence briefings when you think it helps your side then preach about national security. I so despise this complete piece of crap.

    • AlexinCT

      This fucker is the definition of evil. A man with no compunctions or morals and such a huge desire to plant his boot on people’s necks that there is nothing he wouldn’t do for power…

      Team red is not gong to solve our problems. But team blue is the cause of practically all of them.

    • Suthenboy

      Now tell us how you really feel. Dont hold back.
      *me too*

  8. SDF-7

    The organization did not disclose where Cox went.

    I would have expected Gavin to offer a full vacation package and services given his rhetoric about California: Where it is Safe and Supported to Kill your Children!

    Which doubtless means it wasn’t here — because he wouldn’t be able to shut up about it if it had been.

    • Not Adahn

      Hochul literally set up a taxpayer-funded all-inclusive abortion service for out-of-staters.

    • Brawndo

      Considering she was getting an abortion, I think it’s safe to assume where Cox went. *Ba dum tss*

  9. Fourscore

    Chicago kids need time off from all the local gang banging. Ask them to find Gaza, Israel, or any other countries in the ME on a map.

    • AlexinCT

      So has anyone asked what the racial demographic breakdown of the kids queried in the survey that concluded 1 in 5 think the Holocaust is not real? Cause I keep feeling there is something to that and they do not want us to know…

  10. R C Dean

    “Man, there’s either a lot of parity this year or a lot of mediocrity. I can’t decide which I think it is.”

    Last night? A lot of mediocrity. Which is also parity, when you think about it.

  11. SDF-7

    Mittens apparently contemplating ways to outshine McCain… What a tool.

  12. Suthenboy

    8 years in prison for being a solid gold asshole? The threatening is the only crime he committed, I get it but 8 years seems a bit excessive.

    Glad she lost. making videos of your sexy time shows very poor judgement.

    We never should have given a penny to Ukraine in the first place.

    Fuckin’ commies. How stupid do. you have to be to be a commie? Obama level stupid and evil, that’s how stupid.
    I remember when “Shoot a commie for mommy today!” was a common saying.

    The goings on today feel like we are back in the 1930s. I guess people never learn.

    Same for these idiot kids.

    Shameless lying dunce is shameless liar. Oh, and a complete lunatic.

    So, the evil stupid party is running on ‘we kill babies’? Jeebus.

    • WTF

      So, the evil stupid party is running on ‘we kill babies’? Jeebus.

      Seemed to be a winning message for the mid-term elections. Sadly enough.

    • R.J.

      Moloch is extremely popular with the marxists. I think your cycle goes back even farther than the 1930s.

    • EvilSheldon

      Easy fix. Remove silencers from the NFA.

      • Not Adahn

        But then white supremacists will be able to shoot up schools without anyone noticing!

      • UnCivilServant

        In that case, get rid of the NFA so the kids can shoot back!

    • Fourscore

      Kids, puddles, magic

      Thanks for reminding me, Jimbo

  13. Sensei

    Next up the Power Point Olympics

    Inside the World Excel Championships (Yes, You Read That Right)

    “The passion, the energy, the excitement that you bring to spreadsheeting. You are legends,” said Microsoft’s Johnnie Thomas at the beginning of the face-off. “I hope your calculation engines are on full throttle and your fingers are feeling nimble.”

    • SDF-7

      Holy shit — way to make the Obfuscated C Contest participants look like virile lumberjacks there, folks.

    • Gender Traitor

      ::searches cable TV listings to see if it will show up on ESPN2 some late night::

  14. SDF-7

    Another day another Squirtle… *cough*.. I mean Squardle. Not that I ever enjoyed Pokemon back in the Yellow or Silver timeframe…. oh no… never…

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    • Sean

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  15. Pope Jimbo

    You know what will totes get everyone to join your cause? Fucking up their commute home!

    The Lowry Tunnel on I-94 near downtown Minneapolis was closed for around an hour during Monday rush-hour due to a blockade by pro-Palestine protesters.

    The incident unfolded around 5:30 p.m., with images from inside the tunnel showing protesters with Palestinian flags displayed on their vehicles slowing down and then stopping across the eastbound lanes of the interstate, blocking it to following traffic.

    A number of protesters were seen near the tunnel waving Palestinian flags.

    The protest caused long tailbacks on I-94, with the Minnesota Department of Transportation urging drivers to use alternate routes.

    I’m a bit skeptical of their commitment to the cause though. Surely they didn’t need to use their cars to blockade the tunnel. Allah would have protected them if they had walked out in traffic.

    • Pope Jimbo

      In other fun Minnesoda Muslim news: Cake eaters* are so mad they can’t chant aspirational slogans anymore The background for this story is that two Somali kids going to Edina decided to protest in school and chanted “from the river to the sea” and got a short suspension.

      The local chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Committee held a protest outside the building just before the school board meeting. They say the chant is not antisemitic, but a call for Palestinian freedom.

      Jaylani Hussein, executive director of Minnesota’s CAIR chapter, spoke to students and other supporters gathered outside the building.

      “Edina schools is shameful for saying that we cannot say the aspirational message that has been said all over this land, in all parts of the world, that from the river to the sea, surely Palestine will be free,” he said.

      Protestors want the suspensions taken off the students’ records.

      * Edina is the epitome of rich suburbs. They are where all the Old Money in Minnesoda live. Back in the ’60s they built an indoor ice arena and because their kids could skate all year long they dominated the state hockey tourney for years. They have never been forgiven and the nickname for them is “cake eaters”.

      • AlexinCT

        We called the people sending the shooters into harms way that back when as well.

      • SDF-7

        I would have guessed it was because they all want cake.

      • R C Dean

        So, “kill all the Jews” is now an aspirational message?

      • R.J.

        Stretch goal.

      • AlexinCT

        See the Jews have a country named Israel that is successful like the US. Everyone knows you should hate the US and anything like it. Ergo, hate the jews cause they too are colonizers (like the US).

        /Fucking idiot marxist.

      • WTF

        Well, it is what they aspire to.

      • slumbrew

        The Fifth Column podcast has been trying to have “pro-Palestinian” guests on for a bit of balance; they just had Shadi Hamid from the WaPo.

        https://wethefifth.substack.com/p/434-crazed-conspiracies-moral-mulligans

        Shadi comes across as genuine in his concern for the Palestinians but, at best, utterly naive. He hangs arguments on the thinest of reeds. In particular, to paraphrase:

        – those chanting “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” are maybe/probably just calling for a one-state, mixed arab and Israelis living together.

        – those calling for “intifada” may just be talking about the First Intifada, which involved a lot of general strikes and civil disobedience and not that much jew-killing. Hardly any. They’re not necessarily talking about the Second Intifada and all the murders of civilians that involved (editor’s note: they’re assuredly talking about murdering civilians).

        Ultimately, Shadi talked a lot about what Israel needs to do and Israel’s responsibilities and not a whit about Hamas’ role or that of the Palestinians at large, falling back on bullshit social-justice “power dynamics” nonsense and removing any agency from the Palestinians.

        Still worth listening to but if those are the best arguments they’ve got…

      • Suthenboy

        I dont believe any of that. Experience tells me that ‘naive’ arguments like that are feigned. The snake-in-the-grass motherfuckers will drop the naive charade the instant they think they are safe. Then they will be outright calling for blood. Fuck ’em.
        As far as I am concerned the Oct massacre ended the time for talking and equivocation. They will get their fucking cease-fire when every member of Hamas and their masters in Tehran are dead.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

      • mindyourbusiness

        Agreed. Far as I’m concerned, Hamas needs to be completely destroyed. Uproot it, burn it to ashes, plow the ashes under and sow the ground with salt.

        Then let like-minded organizations (you listening, Hezbollah?) know that the same fate awaits them and their overlords if they attempt anything like this.

      • WTF

        those chanting “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” are maybe/probably just calling for a one-state, mixed arab and Israelis living together.

        Arabs and Israelis already live together in Israel, so that ‘argument’ is obvious bullshit.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I finally gave up on the 5th Column podcast when Welch said “we won’t know if it is a fishing expedition if we don’t have an investigation” in regards to some supposed Trump scandal.

        I can’t even imagine how bad he is now on the Ukraine war. He was always “Let’s admit everyone except Russia into NATO” kind of a guy.

      • slumbrew

        The TDS is a bit strong with Welch & Moynihan. I put up with Welch being wrong about so much else if only because Moynihan is so hilarious.

        At least Welch knows to let the conversation flow and will drop whatever bad point he was going to make instead of trying to shoehorn it in.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, I’m seeing that stuff a lot lately. It’s a load of horseshit.

      • Fourscore

        They need to open a chapter in St Louis Park

    • SDF-7

      This seems like a job for the snowplows and bulldozers I have to assume Minneapolis has on standby.

    • Drake

      The greens tried blocking the GW Bridge at rush hour. The cops had to save them from commuters ready to toss them off the bridge.

    • R C Dean

      I saw no mention of arrests. Impound those cars as evidence and/or property used in the commission of a crime, and this won’t happen again. I doubt they even got an illegal parking ticket, though.

      • WTF

        Hey, it’s not like they “paraded” in the Capitol building.

      • Not Adahn

        Or honked their horns in Ottawa.

    • Trials and Trippelations

      This happened in the city where I live. A Facebook mom’s group for the city devolved into the victim Olympics when a mom posted that protestors were blocking a major highway so that moms could get their children from daycare on time. It got so heated the moderators ultimately ended up nuking the thread

  16. Drake

    Jon Rahm signed with LIV Golf for a giant pile of money. The PGA got butt-hurt and suspended him from playing in any of their tournaments – even those he’s automatically eligible for as the defending champion.
    https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/rahm-suspended-pga-tour-formality-011040354.html

    I thought the bickering was over when they went to a single holding company and dropped the lawsuits.

    • Not Adahn

      The deal isn’t finalized yet.

  17. sloopyinca

    One positive I will take away from the Chicago kids cutting school story:

    The Jew is no longer using the black as muscle against you. So whitey has nothing else to worry about and the American Socialist White Peoples Party can disband.

    • DrOtto

      I hate Illinois nazis

      • dbleagle

        Hit it.

  18. Not Adahn

    This is where the True Libertarians(tm) get to call me a hypocritical fascist:

    I guess you law-types call this the concept of “true threats.” I call it “I am entitled to believe someone.”

    If someone points a gun at me, I don’t have to wait until they pull the trigger. Sure, maybe they’re just trying to intimidate me. Maybe the gun is unloaded. Maybe it’s not even a real gun. But I have a right to believe this person intends to kill me, and act in accordance with that.

    Likewise if someone says they’re going to kill me, or burn my house down, or even just break my nose, I also have a right to believe them and act accordingly. I don’t have to know their entire plan to enact said threat, nor their timetable, nor give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re just blowing off steam. I think if we lived in an anarchy, few of you would have a problem with me dealing with the threat myself, FAFO after all. But we don’t. Even in a minarchy, there will be police. I think that’s what get some of you het up — that there is a difference in me resolving a problem and in me getting the state to deal with the problem in my stead. Except that in this reality, me dealing with the problem… conclusively substitutes one threat on me from a fellow citizen with a threat from the King’s Men.

    So yeah, if someone threatens someone else, I don’t see a 1A violation in play — they’re not being punished for their words, they’re being punished for their intent.

    • slumbrew

      I don’t think anyone is going to argue with you. The meat of the story does involve him making threats and not just saying mean words. Is 8 years excessive for that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Maybe combined with the drug charges. Regardless, it’s not some clear-cut 1A case.

      • Not Adahn

        Eh, there are a couple of Glibs that have espoused an idea that speech is a magical thing, completely different than a physical action.

      • R.J.

        I agree with you. I also think that poorly written story misses some context. There is probably more to it.

      • Brawndo

        The story isn’t what actually happened. The story is that the article spends more time talking about slurs than the actual threats. The agenda from the author is pretty clear; slurs should land you in prison.

      • sloopyinca

        Well, the prosecutor pretty much said that, so…

      • The Hyperbole

        I’ve found in 90% of these stories there is more to it. Also the rat is correct, I’d have no problem with one of these peoples son’s or husbands or uncles giving that guy a beatdown, but do that and they are the ones in jail so unfortunately we’re left with having the State mete out punishments and we all know how fair and balanced they are doing that. I’ve said it before we need speedy trials and Jury Nullification to be the norm. Beat some Asshole down, sure you get arrested but the trial is quick and if he had it coming you’ll be hard to find 12 people that will throw you if jail for it.

      • dbleagle

        The problem is that the most assured way off a jury is to mention that you support jury nullification during selection. Judges and prosecutors hate JN.

      • The Hyperbole

        Oh I know, I was describing how it would work in Hyperboltopia.

      • prolefeed

        The most assured way to get off a jury is to throw the summons in the shredder unless they make you sign for it.

        I get some people want to serve on a jury, and if so have at it, but when the government orders me to do something for essentially no pay under threats of punishment, I’m gonna take a dim view of that temporary slavery.

        The most recent attempt to get me on a jury came as a summons issued by the Travis County sheriff on behalf of the city of Austin. Except I don’t live in that county or that city. Apparently ‘close enough for government work’ is literally their MO.

    • sloopyinca

      The big issue I have stems from this:
      “Our office is committed to combatting bias crimes and sending a clear message that such actions will not be tolerated in our community,” Burlington County Prosecutor Bradshaw said in a statement.

      Would they have prosecuted him so harshly for his actions had there not been a racial component? I don’t believe so. And I don’t believe that has any business being considered for a penalty enhancement. He either committed an act of intimidation or he didn’t. The selective prosecution based on immutable physical characteristics of the defendant and his victim should play no role in how the prosecution handles a case, beyond mentioning it as a motive. So if they can say they’d have prosecuted and sentenced him as vigorously had his victim been white, ok. But sentencing someone more harshly because the perpetrator is a racist piece of shit is just wrong, IMO.

      • slumbrew

        I think we’re all in agreement on that.

        Threats are not 1A-protected speech. “Wrongthink” does not make some threats worse than others.

      • WTF

        It’s all about the thoughtcrime, comrade.

      • Not Adahn

        Oh I totally agree with you on the selective enforcement and the inherent bogosity of thoughtcrimes.

        I just disagree with “if you believe in free speech you must defend this person.”

        I may be excessively pedantic and nit-picky.

      • SDF-7

        I may be excessively pedantic and nit-picky.

        Competely rare trait round these parts. 😉

        I think you made your point well and would not argue with you. As I skimmed the article it was (as mentioned) more about racial slurs and less about actual threats of physical violence (I don’t think the hip-thrusting counts).

      • sloopyinca

        I get it. I wasn’t picking at your point. Just at the prosecution’s.

        There’s no way this gets prosecuted if both parties are the same race. That’s the problem.

      • prolefeed

        Perhaps I missed the relevant threads, but I can’t recall anyone making that specific absolutist 1A argument. Nobody here on this thread seems to be making such an unnuanced argument.

      • R C Dean

        There was some back and forth here about it. Basically, we spend all this time denouncing cancellation, and here we are saying these people should be cancelled (possibly unfair paraphrase).

      • Not Adahn

        I don’t call people out, but yes such an absolutist stance has been taken previously (not today).

      • Drake

        Parole and mandatory anger-management counseling sounds a lot more appropriate. Is he going to emerge less racist and better adjusted after years in prison? Although he will have to learn to control his anger and his tongue there.

        I assume he had a job – now that’s gone as is whatever family he was supporting.

    • R C Dean

      I’ve stopped trying to read people’s minds – “Oh, they don’t really mean it. Oh, they’re just repeating something they heard. They’re just saying that to fit in/get along. They would never really do such a thing.”

      Nope. I’m taking people at face value. Chant the slogans of murderous psychopaths, you will be treated like a murderous psychopath. Try to get me to eat bugs and live in a pod, you will be treated as a quasi-religious fanatic .

      Etc, sadly, ad infinitum.

      • prolefeed

        I agree with you that people are bad at mind reading. But in case the prosecutor explicitly said they want a policy of sentencing enhancements for using racist words, in addition to being punished for non-choughtcrimes. I’m taking the prosecution at their words – they think saying the N-word ought to, all by itself, result in years in prison.

    • Urthona

      Fascist

    • Certified Public Asshat

      In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,” he wrote.

      In the Christmas story, no one thought Santa would deliver the toys with Marv and Harry trying to stop him. But with Rudolph and John McClane, we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus.

    • creech

      That is a correct Hanukkah menorah.

  19. The Other Kevin

    So as it turns out, some Jewish people are rich, and tend to donate to things. But they don’t donate to people who say they should be killed. Huh.

    • Gender Traitor

      Does it require a cosmetology license to do the African braiding thing?/can’t bring myself to plod through the whole bill

  20. Not Adahn

    I was reading an article on holiday cocktails when I came across this… interesting definition of “simple.”

    “The beauty of the Turtledove is in its simplicity,”

    THE TURTLEDOVE
    Ingredients
    1 oz. Hamilton Black Jamaican Rum
    1 oz. H&H 10-Year Verdelho Madeira
    0.5 oz. Campari
    1 oz. pineapple juice
    0.5 oz. fresh lime juice
    0.5 oz. cinnamon syrup*
    1 cup water
    1 cup sugar
    ½ tsp. ground cinnamon
    1 pinch salt
    Mint, garnish
    Orange wedge, garnish

    • UnCivilServant

      My baseline for Simple in cocktails goes “glass, booze, drink”

      A dozen ingredients doesn’t come close to simple.

      • R.J.

        I draw the line at three ingredients. Beyond that is a complex drink.

      • The Hyperbole

        If the instructions are mix all this shit together and serve the number of ingredients is irrelevant to the difficulty level.

      • Not Adahn

        Everybody knows that drinks containing H&H 10-Year Verdelho Madeira need to be stirred widdershins for exactly 17 seconds. If you want to “just mix” the five year, well sure.

      • R C Dean

        At some point gathering up a dozen ingredients and measuring small amounts of lots of ingredients counts as “difficulty”. Not to mention lots of these craft cocktails (like this one) require you to make some of the ingredients, like cinnamon syrup.

      • The Hyperbole

        Fair enough, I figured one could buy cinnamon syrup, and I may be conflating “simple” with “easy”

      • R C Dean

        Four ingredients, here (as in, for example, a margarita). Any more than that, and I need some extra motivation.

      • ron73440

        OK, maybe Mai Tais aren’t simple, but they are easy to make.

      • Fourscore

        I could never get the hang of a 7 & 7 so I stopped after the first 7

    • Drake

      Simple to order?

    • R.J.

      Heh.

    • Nephilium

      That’s the opposite of simple.

      I also take issue with cocktail recipes that specify a specific brand and expression of a base spirit.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, that just screams “man bun and ironic facial hair.”

    • Sean

      1 cup sugar?

      • kinnath

        After the *. That’s the recipe for the cinnamon syrup. Poorly formatted.

      • Nephilium

        And going with ground cinnamon isn’t the best option there. I’d go with nubs or sticks, so you don’t need to worry about particulate.

      • kinnath

        THE TURTLEDOVE
        Ingredients
        1 oz. Hamilton Black Jamaican Rum
        1 oz. H&H 10-Year Verdelho Madeira
        0.5 oz. Campari
        1 oz. pineapple juice
        0.5 oz. fresh lime juice
        0.5 oz. cinnamon syrup* {1 cup water, 1 cup sugar, ½ tsp. ground cinnamon, 1 pinch salt}
        Mint, garnish

        Orange wedge, garnish

      • kinnath

        oh well. fucked the formatting again.

      • Not Adahn

        Yanno, after specifying fresh lime juice it seems kind of sloppy to let the bartender just use canned pineapple juice.

      • Nephilium

        I seem to recall there’s a difference between the canned juice and fresh juice. I want to say that the canned juice is pasteurized, which also breaks down the enzymes, with some other minor changes as well.

      • Not Adahn

        The enzyme deactivation is real.

      • UnCivilServant

        THE TURTLEDOVE
        Ingredients
        1 oz. Hamilton Black Jamaican Rum
        1 oz. H&H 10-Year Verdelho Madeira
        0.5 oz. Campari
        1 oz. pineapple juice
        0.5 oz. fresh lime juice
        0.5 oz. cinnamon syrup*

        1 cup water
        1 cup sugar
        ½ tsp. ground cinnamon
        1 pinch salt

        Mint, garnish
        Orange wedge, garnish

        ?

      • kinnath

        that works

      • Sean

        Oooh.

      • UnCivilServant

        To flavor the water.

        I’m not sure if there’s enough liquid to dissolve it all

    • ron73440

      I made Mai Tais for myself and Margaritas for my wife Saturday night.

      Those are both “simple”, that recipe is the opposite of that.

    • Not Adahn

      This whole article is delightfully pretentious:

      Note the complete lack of coca-cola in this drink

      COCA-COLA SOUR
      Ingredients
      2 oz. Beefeater gin
      0.8 oz. fresh lemon juice
      0.6 oz. fresh orange juice
      0.6 oz. Campari
      0.8 oz. pomegranate-and-pepper caramel*
      300 grams golden caster sugar
      1 tsp. whole black peppercorn
      1 pomegranate (cut into eighths)
      1 pinch dried lavender
      1 egg white
      Cherry, garnish
      Nutmeg, garnish
      *Pomegranate and Pepper Caramel: Add golden caster sugar to a pan with whole black peppercorns. As it begins to caramelize, remove from the heat. Add in one whole pomegranate (cut into eighths) using a citrus press. (Be cautious as it will spit.) Add back to a low heat and whisk until the sugar is dissolved. Remove from heat and add a pinch of dried lavender. When cooled, strain through a sieve and keep refrigerated.
      Method
      Add all ingredients to a shaker and dry shake. Add cubed ice, shake well then double-strain into a chilled coupette. Garnish with a cherry and a small fresh grating of nutmeg

      Bonus points for call for 0.6 oz and 0.8 oz!

      • KSuellington

        I’m fresh out of pomegranate-and-pepper caramel. Maybe I should pop in to the neighbor’s and see if I can borrow 0.6 oz of it? Hilarious.

      • Nephilium

        Meh. A Flaming Doctor Pepper contains no Doctor Pepper, and a Long Island Iced Tea contains no iced tea.

        Still not making something that damned annoying to make.

      • Not Adahn

        Just be sure to cut the pomegranate into eighths.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        🤢

    • SDF-7

      I thought the Turtledove recipe was “AK-47s, Robert E. Lee — mix”

      • Not Adahn

        I was trying to figure out how to make that joke.

    • Ted S.

      The Hat and the Hair Madeira?

  21. The Late P Brooks

    The CEO of Levis is a fucking commie retard, but I still buy/wear Levis.

    • Not Adahn

      I stopped buying Gilette-branded products. It really cut down on my options.

      • UnCivilServant

        I long ago stopped shaving to skin level, just buzz with no guard on the trimmer.

      • Urthona

        I continue using Gilette products, but now when I shave there is a slight tinge of self loathing and guilt.

      • kinnath

        I stopped gilette and went to harry’s. I hated the harry’s and went back to gilette.

      • ron73440

        Been using a saftey razor and shaving soap for years now.

        $20 gets me 2 years worth of razors.

      • kinnath

        Not willing to make that transition.

      • ron73440

        If I had an actual beard that would grow in instead of just a goatee, maybe I wouldn’t either.

        As it is, it takes a good 10 minutes to shave.

      • kinnath

        As it is, it takes a good 10 minutes to shave.

        Yeah, that won’t work for me.

    • ron73440

      I switched to Carhart, then I switched to Duluth.

      Duluth Jeans are great, but I haven’t bought anything else from them.

      • R C Dean

        Two thumbs here on their underwear, socks, and (for those of us who dress like adults at the office) white work t-shirts.

      • SDF-7

        Hmm… I’ve been getting Carhart — might I ask why the switch to Duluth so I can see if I should consider them? Thanks for enacting my labor. 😉

      • ron73440

        Mostly because they were all in on the vax.

        The jeans themselves were fine.

        I like the Duluth ones better, I have normal jeans I wear on the weekend and double flex jeans I wear in the office that are very comfortable.

    • Suthenboy

      I wonder how many business people are really commies vs how many are just cowards mouthing the words.
      I remember when Bill Gates was dragged in front of congress and grilled because he had too much money. He came out a changed man mouthing all of the goodthink.
      Now I am pretty sure he is full onboard with it, not just going through the motions.

      • SDF-7

        I assumed the Microsoft Bob dog ate his balls. (And no, that’s not a joke per se…)

      • Fatty Bolger

        And if not, the Epstein dirt will keep him in line.

    • KSuellington

      I was wearing different types of Carhartt’s for work for a while, but the wife bought me a pair of Truewerk pants and I had to get another couple pairs. They are now my all time fav work pant. Water resistant and super comfortable with a bunch of pockets, they feel like flannel pajamas on the inside and have good stretch to them. Highly recommended product.

      https://truewerk.com/products/t1-werkpant-mens-fit-black

    • kinnath

      I have never in my life been able to wear a pair of levis. You must be a fucking stick figure to put those on.

      I’ve been living in Wranglers for decades. If the CEO is an asshole, I don’t want to know about it, cause I have few other options.

      • Urthona

        Such a country boy.

      • Homple

        Don’t country boys wear Big Smith bibs?

  22. The Late P Brooks

    “The beauty of the Turtledove is in its simplicity,”

    Beloved by simpletons.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    How do we save those who do not wish to be saved?

    Kelly: So let me put to you a couple of the arguments which you anticipate and write about in your memoir. One is that we can do the greatest reporting in the world, but does it matter if people, including Trump voters, are not reading or listening to media outlets like The Washington Post, or like NPR, if we’re not reaching people?

    Baron: Yeah. Well, it’s true media consumption is highly polarized. The real challenge is how do we reach a broader audience, as you say. I think there are a number of things that we can do. I don’t think that it’s the case that our work doesn’t resonate at all. I think it does resonate with the independent thinkers out there. That may not be a huge portion of the population, but it’s a significant portion of the population. But I think we need to cover the totality of American society. We need to reflect people’s lives, their concerns.

    Yes, children, journalism is a holy crusade to save the souls of the ignorant and unwashed.

    • ron73440

      I don’t think that it’s the case that our work doesn’t resonate at all. I think it does resonate with the independent thinkers out there.

      Yeah, that’s who propaganda really reaches, “independent thinkers”.

    • The Other Kevin

      “How do we earn back public trust?”

      LOL. Let’s be honest, it’s “How do we brainwash more people?”

      • Drake

        Being trustworthy obviously isn’t an option.

    • R C Dean

      “we can do the greatest reporting in the world”

      Can you though? You certainly haven’t.

      “I think it does resonate with the independent thinkers out there.”

      *guffaws, slaps knee*

      • Not Adahn

        Learning to love report on yourself is the greatest love reporting of all.

    • ron73440

      OK, I read the whole navel gazing article.

      Apparently, the biggest mistake the media made was to let Trump rallies play without interruption.

      They also don’t do enough to clarify the danger another Trump presidency poses.

      I think I have a tumor now.

    • Suthenboy

      Wow.
      This is what happens when someone buys into the mentality that truth is subjective.

  24. prolefeed

    Prog math: need a waiting period to buy guns because there’s a one in a million chance that will stop someone from killing a person.

    You shouldn’t have to make a 6 or 10 hour drive to 100% kill soneone.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Kelly: Last thing: As you and I speak, it seems major news outlet after major news outlet has been publishing op-eds — or analysis pieces — warning about the risks and dangers of a possible second Trump presidency. My question to you, Marty Baron: Is that a good idea, given a lot of people do not distinguish between reporters on the news pages and editorials and the editorial page?

    Baron: Well, I think in all possible ways, we need to explain what a second Trump administration would look like. I think that is the task of people on the opinion pages. I think that’s the task of reporters as well. And I think that it’s an obligation of…

    Kelly: But does it reinforce the view that Trump loves to put out there, that American media is against him, that it’s a witch hunt?

    Baron: Maybe it does. I don’t think we have an alternative, except to tell the American public what it might be in for — what it’s likely to be in for — if Trump were to be reelected.

    The devil is coming for your souls, America. Don’t let him in.

    These people can’t disappear up their own assholes soon enough.

    • ron73440

      given a lot of people do not distinguish between reporters on the news pages and editorials and the editorial page?

      Yep, it’s the people being too stupid to know the difference, not the fact that you’re deliberately blurring the lines that’s the problem.

      And while I agree most people don’t pay attention to a lot, I think that is the audience the journalists cater to.

  26. Not Adahn

    Re: jeans,

    I have a self-inflicted problem with them. I pocket carry a P365 in an Aliengear pocket holster. It makes a hole in the pocket after a few months. I may need to reinforce the cloth used.

    • ron73440

      In Libertopia open Carry would be the preferred method and you wouldn’t have these issues.

    • Urthona

      Similar problem because of my massive swinging gun as well.

      • mindyourbusiness

        What you did there…

    • Suthenboy

      I feel ya’. I often carry a J-frame Smith in my back pocket. I have a few jeans with holes in the right back pocket .

      • Urthona

        Wait a second. I just realized we are talking about firearms.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    I want to hear Joe’s response

    Hunter Biden pushed back Monday against gun charges filed against him, challenging the case on multiple fronts as unconstitutional and politically motivated days after he was hit with new tax charges.

    His defense attorney argued the gun case should be tossed out because an appeals court has found the law violates the Second Amendment under new standards set by the Supreme Court. Abbe Lowell also contended the charges against Hunter Biden violated immunity provisions that prosecutors agreed to in a plea deal they abandoned after Republicans slammed it as a “sweetheart deal.”

    If you believe some random junkie mental case in Ohio should be tossed in the slammer for owning a gun, why is your son walking around free?

  28. The Late P Brooks

    I have pretty much always made it a rule to know nothing about actors’/writers’/artistes’ personal lives, and especially what they might think about politics or economics. I don’t want to be aware of anything but what is before me.

    Actually, it doesn’t really matter, because I have no interest whatsoever in video games, magic, fantasy, superheroes, monsters, preposterously complicated bank heists, ridiculous car chases, cgi, or young women of color on a heartwarming journey of joy and self discovery.

    I haven’t watched a movie in a theater in ten years or more.

    • ron73440

      My wife and I still like to go occasionally.

      We saw Godzilla Minus One this weekend.

      Excellent movie, it drags a little in the middle, but I would recommend it.

      • R C Dean

        That’s on my list. May go see it on Christmas at the comfy chair/beer/burger theater.

      • Sensei

        Subbed or Dubbed here?

        It’s rare that movie theater films are subtitled instead of dubbed and I’m not a fan of most dubs.

      • ron73440

        Subtitles.

        I caught a couple minor translation errors, maybe not errors, just a different interpretation than what I am used to.

        My Japanese isn’t good enough to follow without reading, but it didn’t distract from the story at all.

        The ending was a little too happy would be the only real complaint, but it was a really engaging story with the destruction you would expect from a Japanese Godzilla movie.

      • Sensei

        He always manages to avoid the Imperial Palace!

        Also nice your wife gets to enjoy it fully too.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Godzilla Minus One- is King Kong in it?

    • ron73440

      No, this is a good Godzilla movie.