You guys are the best. Really, now fuck off, Tulpa.

This is my review of Pipeworks Brewing Hey, Careful Man, There’s a Beverage Here!:

It has been argued by people that want to exterminate multiple oil and gas producing nations by direct and indirect military action, that internet anonymity is the devil.  While Nimrata the Destroyer did walk back her desire for a state-backed doxing of the entire internet, it turns out the science is not on her side (TW:  The Conversation):

Nimrata the Destroyer, artist unknown

Many people focus on the dangers of online anonymity. Back in 2011, Randi Zuckerberg, sister of Mark and (then) marketing director of Facebook, said that for safety’s sake, “anonymity on the internet has to go away”. Such calls appear again and again. Behind them is a common intuition: that debate would be more civil and constructive if people used their real names.

But my research with colleagues suggests that anonymity – under certain conditions – can actually make for more civil and productive online discussion. This surprising result came out of a study looking at the deliberative quality of comments on online news articles under a range of different identity rules.

We built a data set of 45 million comments on news articles on the Huffington Post website between January 2013 and February 2015. During this period, the site moved from a regime of easy anonymity to registered pseudonyms and finally to outsourcing their comments to Facebook. This created three distinct phases.

The first phase is what you might call the wild west phase.  You got to log in to the comment section without any verification necessary.  If you got banned, no problem just create a new profile and/or a new username then continue being an asshole behind a keyboard.  Everyone here that arrived from H&R is well aware of this form of discourse.

The second phase was a verified user with a pseudonym.  All of you are familiar with this, as this is the level of discourse employed at this …um, fine site.

The third phase, however, took it to another level.  You had to have a Book of Faces account which implies a level of verification to the point where Mark Zuckerberg not only knows your first and last name, he knows your date of birth, and is even aware of where you are located within a few yards (that’s like a meter, Rufus).  This is before you begin informing him of your preferences for women’s legging ads by, well…watching the entire ad of multiple women showing you their bum while wearing that particular brand of leggings.  They are always pretty nice, to be honest.  Anyways, this FB account is then linked to the commenter and even will post your comment to FB if you were absent minded enough to not review your FB settings before releasing bile in the comments.  Which means your mother knows you’re an asshole in the comment section.

As I’m reading this study, linked here because why get things secondhand from someone as illiterate as a journo, thinking the entire time, “those poor grad students.”  Certainly, there had to be an easier way to get research credits than reviewing millions of comments on HuffPo?  Surely, professors still accept sexual favors?

Anyways, the results were actually a bit surprising:

The expectation that poor discursive behaviour in anonymous environments would be improved if users had their ‘real names down’ seems not to be clearly or straightforwardly borne out by this case. The most striking finding from our data set is that the CC of comments shows a marked improvement in the shift from non-durable to durable pseudonymity. But CC reduces again in the ‘real-name’ phase, when comments are made under the users’ Facebook names. We find this pattern repeated when we restrict the analysis to those present through all three phases under study. […]
The idea that people behave better with their real names down is primarily underpinned by assumptions about communicative accountability. One potential explanation for the difference between the latter two phases can still draw on the mechanism of communicative accountability. However, following Moore (2018), we can distinguish two sorts of communicative accountability: accountability to the audience within the forum itself, on one hand, and a broader accountability for one’s speech and actions that is not limited to a particular discursive context, on the other.
Moore’s discussion of the deliberative potentials of pseudonymity suggests that continuity of identity within a particular discursive context is a necessary condition for a minimal form of communicative accountability, which involves the possibility of making and meeting demands for justification within the forum.

So you see, using a pseudonym while still being a verifiable human being is a superior form of communication.  You know I’m real, I assume you are all real, and this is about all we need to agree Nikki Hayley is a vile parasite.  Civility for me is a finite vessel from which I must draw from and emptied over the course of the day almost entirely upon people I work with.  Let’s be real, I work with people that believe in Medicare, that’s the real work. Here I am free to be Andy Rooney, except I am not an illiterate journo.

They tell me to watch Big Lebowski, but my problem with movies and shows is every time I decide to finally see something everyone likes I am disappointed in something.  By something I mean everyone.  Sort of like this beer. They call it a “White Russian Imperial Stout.”  While I can get on board with rhetoric that results in a trip to the gulag, I don’t know what to make of this.  Does it taste like a Russian Stout?  Sort of.  It just doesn’t look the part, and it doesn’t do what I actually want it to do:  leave my breath smelling like I drank a pot of coffee.  Instead, I smell like I drank beer, which makes for a dicey day drinking proposition.   Still, I’m glad I tried it. Pipeworks Brewing Hey, Careful Man, There’s a Beverage Here!: 2.9/5  10.5% ABV

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179 Comments

  1. Common Tater

    I was expecting a milk stout, like Left Hand, but chocolate.

    • Nephilium

      White stouts have been a thing for a while. One of our local brewers has made a reputation for cranking out some excellent ones (Albino Stout, Fauxbia, and Foxbia). From memory, the first one I ever tried was from Stone.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Expect the unexpected

    • Mojeaux

      LOL I used that line in a book.

      • Fourscore

        Hopefully you credited the cartoonist.

        Is it OK to plagiarize verbally without accreditation? Something like “I heard on TV…”

      • Mojeaux

        Nope, but I figured since it was in the public discourse (a meme), I didn’t need to.

  2. Yusef drives a Kia

    That beer sounds like a bummer, thanks for the warning,
    /verified user of beer

  3. Common Tater

    The big shift was from email lists and forums to social media platforms. The old internet didn’t care about your identity because its purpose was communication not collecting user data.

    • Pat

      The protocol era vs. the platform era. Protocols are for connecting machines. Platforms are for corralling ad cattle.

      • slumbrew

        Yeah, I miss the Protocol Era.

        We had federated Jabber servers at work until fairly recently.

      • slumbrew

        Yeah Pidgin+the OTP plugin was the standard.

        Miss that.

      • Pat

        Yep, that’s the one. I couldn’t get all of my buddies to start using it because they hate the Pidgin interface and wanted something mobile friendly, and didn’t want to install plugins, so I got them moved to Session for the most part. I’d go back if I could. Mumble for voice, Pidgin for messaging, phpBB for communities, and get the fuck off my lawn.

  4. DEG

    They call it a “White Russian Imperial Stout.”

    WTF?

    I’ll pass.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Its not too bad, and there’s a local made one that is well regarded.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    There’s always that self-selection thing.

  6. KSuellington

    You should watch The Big Lebowski. But it is a movie that actually gets better with repeated viewings. I found that to be true with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood as well. The first time I kinda liked it, but I rewatched in last week on a plane flight and absolutely loved it, it’s Quentin’s magnum opus, his best work yet. Pitt is fantastic in it.

    • Fourscore

      I watched Fargo with a city friend. (I live near Brainerd) and he didn’t understand a lot of the nuances. There were things that I missed too and had to see it a second time. Same with the Big Lebowski.

      Another friend told me that Cohen Bro movies were tough so I’d have him explain those things I didn’t understand

      • KSuellington

        The Cohens’ pack a lot into their movies. I love Lebowski, Barton Fink, and O Brother. All three I’d probably put in a top 100 of all time list.

      • slumbrew

        I love Miller’s Crossing but it’s indeed dense.

      • Pat

        Miller’s Crossing was great. I don’t generally love the Cohen bros though.

      • Nephilium

        Burn After Reading and Hail Caesar are favorites in this house.

      • R C Dean

        Lebowski and Fink, meh.

        Miller’s and Brother, thumbs up.

      • Mojeaux

        Loved Fargo. Liked O Brother. Can’t say I know any of their other films.

      • KSuellington

        Lebowski is hilarious, Fink is eerie, well written and dark. Goodman is awesome in both.

      • Pat

        Hot take: Raising Arizona is their best flick.

      • KSuellington

        Aw fuck! I totally forgot about that, excellent comedy (the hardest genre to get right).

        Nathan needs some Huggies!!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I dunno, they was jammies! They had Yodas on ’em or some shit!

      • R C Dean

        Could be.

      • robc

        Thats a hot take? I thought that was objective truth.

      • Chafed

        That was a hell of a movie.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Add Burn After Reading to Fargo for me. Enjoyed Buster Scruggs and Intolerable Cruelty.

      • Cowboy

        I pretty much enjoy their entire catalog, except for a few misses. Hail, Cesar wasnt very good, for example.

        Probably not a popular opinion here, but I think they nailed the True Grit remake.

      • Spudalicious

        I completely agree. I enjoyed it just as much as the original.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Better, I’d say. John Wayne always has that John Wayne quality.

    • Ted S.

      I think The Big Lebowski is overrated.

      • Pat

        I’m apparently the only person in the history of the world who didn’t like O’ Brother Where Are Though, although to be fair, I haven’t watched it again since I was, what, 17?

      • Nephilium

        /raises hand

        I’m not a fan, the girlfriend loves it. I wouldn’t say I dislike it, just not worth my time.

      • KSuellington

        Shomer fucking Shaboos!

      • UnCivilServant

        I couldn’t finish watching it.

      • R C Dean

        Concur.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        It’s funny, but I still don’t get it.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    They call it a [….].

    Who the fuck knows what any “beer aficionado” jargon means? Not I, says the rat.

    • Nephilium

      /raises hand

  8. juris imprudent

    Haley may indeed be vile, but is she really the worst?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Well she is a warmonger….

    • Urthona

      No.

      I’m the worst.

      • Nephilium

        Nikki?

      • robc

        Do we know that “our” Nikki isn’t Haley?

      • Not Adahn

        Yes. Haley has kids, and does not live in Chigaco.

    • R C Dean

      Her left index finger appears to have an extra joint.

      Mark of the Beast. *taps side of nose*

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Quentin’s magnum opus

    Yeah, whatever. I gave up on Tarantino at Kill Bill. Somebody duped me into watching Inglorious Bastards- I lasted about ten minutes.

    • KSuellington

      I haven’t loved anything he has done since Jackie Brown. That and his first two movies were great, all the other stuff I could take or leave. If this scene at Spahn Ranch doesn’t interest you then you won’t like the film. I thought it was well done, and I’m not a fan of much coming out of Hollywood these days.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3YKMeXNz8

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Same. Tarentino continues to fail by not making a sequel to Pulp Fiction where Julius walks the earth.

    • Urthona

      I enjoyed Kill Bill

      • Mojeaux

        Me too. ❤️

        Sat my daughter down to watch it when she was like a sophomore or something. She went as Beatrix for Halloween at school and EVERYBODY knew who she was.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Me also. Inglorious Basterds and Reservoir Dogs are the only QT movies I can’t stand.

      • Chafed

        Me too to both parts.

    • Evan from Evansville

      Know what Kill Bill is trying to be and it’s glorious: Part 1 is having fun with Japanese bloody mafia+ 70s over-the-top-fun. More of a visceral, cinematographic accomplishment, but the build of set/setting. Part 2 is far more thoughtful and paced. David Carradine’s scene describing how Clark Kent is Superman’s vision of how weak and spineless Man is well-written, acted, and (that scene is) absolutely necessary to the story.

      Inglorious Bastards is fantastic. Christoph Waltz’ performance is legit beyond comprehension. His character is legit terrifying in every possible way, correctly played at the right time. Waltz being IRL fluent in all this character’s languages adds a sublimity to it all.

      I am upset I haven’t yet seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I plan on correcting this.

      • KSuellington

        I think you’ll dig it. I know a good deal about the Manson stuff from reading Bugliosi’s book and other stuff when I was a teen. Tarantino takes the true life story of the Tate murders and builds his own tale around it that is a take on the old Hollywood being replaced by new. I love movies set in El Lay for some reason (not actually a fan of the actual city) and it is wonderful to see his version of SoCal in its late 60’s glory. Top notch acting all around and a fantastic soundtrack. Builds slowly and then turns Tarantino in the last act. I hadn’t heard this Neil Diamond tune in a couple decades and it’s in it.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5va1iaLj2M

    • R C Dean

      I liked Bastards and Kill Bill (mostly). Haven’t seen Hollywood. I generally like his movies.

    • Fourscore

      Hmmm, seems like it would be tough to walk

  10. slumbrew

    I have finished my taxes.

    While I don’t feel good about them (“… theft, etc. etc.”), I am pleased – I owe the feds $200.

    That’s about as good as it gets.

    • Fourscore

      I’m gonna try tomorrow, not sure if I have everything but I know then. Hope the experience doesn’t make me pull my hair out.

    • Rat on a train

      I get a few hundred back from both federal and state. I added up my total income, SS, Medicare, real property, and personal property taxes. They total about 25% of my gross income.

    • slumbrew

      Oh, and I owe the state $1,100 but managed to avoid any underpayment penalty.

      Suck it, Mass!

    • juris imprudent

      Guessing you owed uncle sugar more than that; that was just the balance due.

      • slumbrew

        Uncle Sugar already got all but that $200, so not really “owed”.

        I’d be happy to owe a lot more but then you run into underpayment penalties…

      • Gender Traitor

        I haven’t touched my withholding setup since before the new W-4 was put in place in 2020, but I’ve heard panicky horror stories from coworkers who, of course, didn’t pay attention to how much was coming out until it was tax filing time. (To be fair, part of the problem may be in how our payroll processor turned it into a step-by-step Q&A or some such. I’m afraid to look.) Have any of you used the new “improved” W-4? If so, did it give you the desired results (other than the most desired result of not withholding anything ’cause you don’t owe?)

      • slumbrew

        We use ADP and it looked much like it did in years past; I have a reminder in my calendar in late October to do some back-of-the-napkin figures and then I jack up my withholding for the last few paychecks if need be (and then drop it back in January). I pretty much got it on the nose this year.

        Or I could do estimated payments, I guess.

      • Ted S.

        I use the “new” W-4. My first year at current job was only a half year, so withholding was screwed up to the point I got a big refund. I redid it to change the number of exemptions, but put the wrong number in for the state to the point I was getting worried I might have to do the underpayment penalty.

        I did some research on the new form to figure out myself how withholding would be calculated, and used that to punch in the numbers. I make little enough that I get the federal tax credit for contributing to my retirement, but also have dividends from my mutual funds that cancel out some of that credit. So I had to do a little work to figure out exactly how to set withholding.

        I’m getting a ~$39 “refund” from the Feds, but owe New York about $60.

      • Rat on a train

        When I was a poor college student with my only taxable income from reserve duty I adjusted my W-4 to S-80 so they didn’t withhold anything.

    • rhywun

      I moved this year and while I told HR to adjust as needed I’m still afraid it will be fucked up somehow. My take-home went up several hundred dollars a pay period, which sounds about right, but we’ll see….

    • mexican sharpshooter

      👏 Golf 👏 Clap 👏

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Another friend told me that Cohen Bro movies were tough so I’d have him explain those things I didn’t understand

    You can enjoy O Brother Where Art Thou without having read The Odyssey.

  12. KK, Plump & Unfiltered

    So the beer doesn’t really tie the room toegther?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      No

  13. Brochettaward

    Firsters are superior spiritual beings. You will bow before me and despair.

    • Aloysious

      Galadrial?

  14. The Late P Brooks

    If this scene at Spahn Ranch doesn’t interest you then you won’t like the film.

    I watched it. I’m really not trying to be a jerk, but is “Spahn Ranch” supposed to men something to me?

    All those grubby children reminded me of the “bonk bonk” Star Trek episode.

    • slumbrew

      is “Spahn Ranch” supposed to men[sic] something to me?

      Yes

      • Evan from Evansville

        *SWISH*

    • Chafed

      That’s hilarious. I never put that together but it totally works.

    • Nephilium

      I’ve already seen articles trying to reclaim it as a cult classic.

  15. KK, Plump & Unfiltered

    From the ded thread @ Ksuells: 🖕 😉

    • KSuellington

      Heheh, get your ass to the mountain! Whadda you think, winter lasts forever!!? With this climate change we may never see snow again.

  16. Pat

    The reason for attaching all of one’s PII to one’s online identity was to target ads, not to make the internet more civil. That aside, fuck civility. We all have to dress up in nice clothes and be on our best behavior 8 hours a day in the real world. The thing that made the internet great was that you could shed those niceties and say the kinds of things you used to be able to only say in your home with close friends, and find a bunch of weirdos with the same niche interests who think the same deranged thoughts that you do. Which do you think is truly the more civil environment, modern Facebook or X/Twitter, where people dogpile anyone with a dissenting opinion and routinely issue death threats and spew other bile over trivial political rivalries, or, say, an anonymous 4chan board where a bunch of teens and college kids are calling each other faggots over their taste in anime, and you can try on a new personality or take an opposing side just by spoofing a new IP? I can tell you which one is more entertaining to interact with. Of my 3 closest friends, 2 met me on vBulletin forums under my go-to pseudonym of dr.strangelove and knew me for well over 5 years before any of us learned each other’s real life names. The other I met playing video games under the same pseudonym. There’s no way I would meet those guys now. The forums are gone, and I don’t participate in the social media panopticon. It probably seems trivial for those who aren’t terminally online, but something of value was lost there.

    • Gustave Lytton

      We all have to dress up in nice clothes and be on our best behavior 8 hours a day in the real world.

      If only.

    • Nephilium

      Another thing was that the pseudonymity also allowed people to recover from mistakes. Either through rehabilitating a handle, or learning from their mistakes and creating a new one. It allowed a way for newbies (“Hello lurkers, come on in, we’re really not that bad.”) to get a feel for what was acceptable and what wasn’t with low risk.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        E.g., early HnR.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    “those poor grad students.”

    They must have been very very bad little boys and girls to be sentenced to reading all those Huffpo comments.

    I wonder what they’d make of us.

    • R C Dean

      This a very civil forum. Lots of badthink but very little incivility.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Spahn Ranch- huh.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Other people’s preferences, in beer or movies or any other thing you can name, aren’t bad, they just don’t necessarily interest me.

    • rhywun

      This.

      “I like ______ too!” and “______ sucks!” are not very illuminating and although I catch myself doing it once in a while I try not to.

    • KSuellington

      Yes and no. You likely don’t just randomly find all the books, movies, tv shows, music that you like. There is a fair percentage of that that someone recommends to you. It’s just who is doing the recommending. Obviously someone who knows you better is generally better at recognizing what you might line, but not always. I guess the exception to that is for people who do not like anything new. I know friends who listen to the same fucking played out rock and country shit they’ve listened to for 40 years. I have plenty I watch and listen to that are on rotation, but I always am looking for good new stuff in the audio, visual and reading departments.

      • Ted S.

        There’s lots of new-to-me old movies.

      • KSuellington

        Absolutely I love new old stuff. Just got recommended by the dog groomer guy who works next to our house to see a Lee Marvin classic “Hell in the Pacific”. Sounds right up my alley.

    • Mojeaux

      Taste is a tribal aggregator. “I like X.” “Oh, I do too!” Insta-tribe. You go find other people who like X and expand your tribe.

      Saying, “I don’t like X” makes you an outsider and also the tribe infers judgment that they are somehow inferior for liking X.

      Of course, some people do mean that. “If you like X, you’re a shameful animal and also a dum-dum.”

  20. The Late P Brooks

    I’m apparently the only person in the history of the world who didn’t like O’ Brother Where Are Though, although to be fair, I haven’t watched it again since I was, what, 17?

    I keep saying Starship Troopers is the worst movie ever made. I only saw it that one time (in a theater, cheap afternoon show). I walked out of the theater pissed. I could try watching it again, but why?

    Same with Gangs of New York, except I was laughing my ass off by the end at how stupid and pretentious it was. Fuck Scorsese and Dicaprio and everybody else in that runny steamy pile of shit.

    • Brochettaward

      Starship Troopers can be enjoyed as a cheesy 80’s action flick with fascist tendencies or as dark satire. It’s a fantastic movie that has rightfully been redeemed. It’s kept me entertained on many a boring weekend or late night.

      RICO’S ROUGHNECKS.

      • Pat

        Starship Troopers can be enjoyed as a cheesy 80’s action flick

        Fair enough, although the fact that it came out in 1997 means you can only really enjoy it as a pastiche, and by that point, why not just put on Commando?

      • KSuellington

        Starship Troopers is frigging awesome and hilarious and Showgirls is as well. Showgirls just needed to be marketed differently, it is misunderstood.

      • Tres Cool

        + we’ve got bush

      • slumbrew

        +1 pool scene.

      • Raven Nation

        Yeah, I hate to say it, but I agree with Bro here.

        I hated it at first as being such a WRONG take on Heinlein’s original. But, as a stand alone Saturday matinee it’s not bad.

      • Urthona

        I always thought it was great.

    • rhywun

      What on earth… some sort of percolator?

    • R C Dean

      Adorbs.

      Espresso, I believe, rhy.

      • rhywun

        Ah, neat. When I hear “espresso” I always think some giant machine.

    • slumbrew

      Weirdly, I’ve seen that before. Almost certainly from here. You damn weirdos.

    • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

      Love that guy. Follow him on the Tweeters

    • Brochettaward

      He’s preparing himself to First. I don’t see what’s so weird about that.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      WTF

      • Chafed

        Indeed.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    I hated it at first as being such a WRONG take on Heinlein’s original. But, as a stand alone Saturday matinee it’s not bad.

    My expectations definitely tainted the experience, but I came away thinking it was just plain stupidly incoherent.

    • PieInTheSky

      i never saw it as the same thing as heinlen, but i saw the movie before i read the book

  22. PieInTheSky

    You lolberatains are pathetic and have no strength of conviction what a bunch of losers lol

    ma ant makes 4567 dollzr a day at http://www.pierulezmexsharpdrools.co.uk

    • slumbrew

      Pie got hacked. Someone has to reformat and restore from the last good backup.

  23. PieInTheSky

    that’s like a meter, Rufus – I feel left out

    • Pat
    • mexican sharpshooter

      Oh. Um….GOOD.

  24. Derpetologist

    My interview yesterday went well. I impressed them with my math knowledge and made them laugh several times. Also, there is Cuban food truck next to an on ramp on the way there. That sweetens the deal. I expect to have a job soon. I’ll have another interview on Tuesday. Hopefully after a year or so of teaching in another county, I’ll be able to get a teaching job at the high school a mile away from my apartment.

    Here is the mini math lesson I gave at the interview:

    1/3 = 0.333…

    But what about 0.343434…? What fraction is that equal to?

    Let x = 0.343434…

    100x = 34.34343434…

    Subtract x = 0.343434… from both sides and the repeating decimal goes away, leaving us with:

    99x = 34

    divide both sides by 99 to get x = 34/99

    They had never seen this trick before, and I myself learned it from a British math textbook I found in Tanzania.

    If we use the same method on 0.333…

    let x = 0.333…

    10x = 3.333…

    Subtract x from both sides to get 9x = 3 then divide both sides by 9

    x = 3/9 = 1/3

    I like problems like this because it ties together several concepts: fractions, decimals, x as the unknown, and a simple system of equations.

    • Lackadaisical

      shit, that is a smart technique. I think I have seen it before, but I never understood it until now. thanks.

    • Cowboy

      We had to use this technique as some throw away example of writing proofs in my Discrete Math class. If I had known it earlier would have saved a lot of headache.

    • Chafed

      Good luck with the job.

  25. rhywun

    Next on NBC: “Flag Football: The Future is Now. Stories of U.S. and International Flag Football, with a focus on girls & women driving change herpity derpity doo…”

    This is not the Saturday afternoon programming I remember from youth.

    • R C Dean

      Oh FFS.

    • slumbrew

      Bruins v. Kings on ABC, Kings just tied it at 4 with under 2 minutes to go.

      • rhywun

        I can’t summon the energy today to hate-watch the Bruins. I’m going to turn on a nature show and take a nap.

    • Chafed

      The stories of change will surely bring in more viewers.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    Another thing was that the pseudonymity also allowed people to recover from mistakes. Either through rehabilitating a handle, or learning from their mistakes and creating a new one. It allowed a way for newbies (“Hello lurkers, come on in, we’re really not that bad.”) to get a feel for what was acceptable and what wasn’t with low risk.

    Excellent point. Although, as we all have seen, some people handle hop just to keep flinging the same pointless shit.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Bathurst 12 hr is live on youtube. Mt Panorama is an amazing race track.

  28. Mojeaux

    I am so sick of people. Mainly people I consider friends, mostly fromthe internet. They’ve slowly gone down the tHeY’rE aLl FaScIsT MaGaTs rabbit hole, totally unable to deal innuance or separate the people from OMB or care to understand WHY people vote for OMB. Further, the Palestine thing (got hit with that earlier this week; it didn’t go over well) has rotted my friends’ brains.

    I cannot say ONE. FUCKING. THING. to introduce nuance or thoughtfulness into the conversation. They talk over you and ignore you and shout you down if their ears happen to get contaminated with your words. Or they debate in bad faith and when ypu present proof, THEN they shout you down.

    TODAY my husband read to me what a friend of mine said about Travis Kelce getting in Andy Reid’s face, as that is the sign of an abuser and the commenters were scared for Tay-Tay. All these suburban white women were triggered and since I know some of them and see their FB posts about all the bad things that happen to them and not ONE of them is in an abusive relationship, I couldn’t believe they were triggered. Ladies, you’re watching a violent (debatable) sport with big men hopped up on adrenaline and testosterone. A little self-awareness, please. And also, learn to mitigate your own triggers by not watching big men hopped up on adrenaline and testosterone play a debatably violent sport.

    And then race. Please don’t get me started. I thought I was happily colorblind until I started getting accused (without evidence) of being racist (the latest reason: I’m white so therefore I MUST be racist). It’s making me angry.

    This place is my only relief from people in my life. I’ve gotten rid of the only IRL friend I had for a bigger reason than just her accusing me of racism, and now I’m about to clean out my online friend pool because I canNOT take this shit anymore.

    • slumbrew

      Gooble, gobble, gooble, gobble, one of us! One of us!

      Sorry you’ve gotta put up with that Mojeaux. Speaking from the heart of darkness blueness, I can sympathize.

      • Fourscore

        I’m lucky not to have many friends.

    • creech

      If racism is something you can’t change, just by virtue of being white, then racism should be a protected characteristic. Just like skin color or being gay is something that can’t be changed, therefore it is wrong to discriminate against. Somehow I don’t think your “friends” will see it that way.

      • Lackadaisical

        Logic is tricknology.

      • rhywun

        LOL good point.

      • R C Dean

        Racism as a disability. I like it.

    • rhywun

      I hear you.

      That just crystallized a thought in my head: today you kind of have to choose your friends based on politics. How sad and shitty. It did not used to be that way. I feel sad for anyone younger than around 30 or 35 who is straining under this. I’m old enough to not give a shit but young people? This is hugely damaging.

      • Lackadaisical

        It was the same growing up for me. ‘don’t tolerate intolerance’

  29. R C Dean

    Catching up on the dedthred:

    I don’t know any of the Texas A&M trustees, but I’d be very surprised if they aren’t Dominant Culture people. They are almost certain to be well-connected Repubs, and the Repub party establishment in Texas is, well, establishment Repubs, which is to say, Dominant Culture people. As I can testify from personal experience, the Repub establishment in Texas absolutely loathed the Tea Party people (which, in retrospect, was a pretty mild bunch). As wealthy businessmen (almost certainly), they are also embedded in the Dominant Culture.

    If they are Dominant Culture people, they aren’t going to have deep-seated personal objections to wokism (if they aren’t actually supporters). So I wouldn’t bet on them doing the necessary to root it out. They tolerated (if not supported) it this long, didn’t they? And rooting it out is going to require some pretty serious measures (as in, a lot of people lose their jobs).

    I’m hope to be pleasantly surprised. But I’ll be surprised.

    • Urthona

      I know many, and I think it’s like this.

      They aren’t “woke” but they also don’t consider it a big deal. The they think the world is mostly a civilized place where people can disagree but nothing is that big a deal. There are few “black pilled” people among the rich and powerful in Republican Texas but plenty of old school Republican.

    • Cowboy

      the Repub establishment in Texas absolutely loathed the Tea Party people (which, in retrospect, was a pretty mild bunch). As wealthy businessmen (almost certainly), they are also embedded in the Dominant Culture.

      This was pretty evident in TX-14. We were all very good and proud of being represented by Ron Paul, and him being Dr No. There was a ton of hoopla and support for the Tea Party. Then, as soon as he retired he was quickly replaced with a staunch wealthy big R Republican. Weber hasn’t been terrible, but he’s definitely not Ron Paul. Now people here almost act embarrassed to have been represented by the good Dr.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    You likely don’t just randomly find all the books, movies, tv shows, music that you like. There is a fair percentage of that that someone recommends to you.

    It’s good to hear about new and different things. To be honest, the discussion above has definitely piqued my interest in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

    The real point of my comment about liking (or not) things is that just because I don’t like it, that doesn’t mean I think no one should (or should be allowed to). A lot of Mexi’s beer reviews are for stuff I would never drink, but obviously there are a lot of people who agree with him and not me, and that’s a good thing. Variety makes the world a more interesting place. One of the things I didn’t like about Pie’s hypothetical universe was the self-selected homogeneity of thought. The world doesn’t work that way, and it would be bad if it did.

    • Urthona

      I like all the beers he reviews positively, but also most of the beers he reviews negatively.

    • KSuellington

      Absolutely, totally agree. I do find people that don’t think this way odd, but they are not few in number. Per Mo’s comment above about political differences causing anything beyond some good natured rubbing and/or debate. It does seem to be a growing problem tho, and much of it is due to the fact (I think) that leftism has moved firmly from the counter culture to the dominant culture.

  31. The Late P Brooks

    If racism is something you can’t change, just by virtue of being white, then racism should be a protected characteristic. Just like skin color or being gay is something that can’t be changed, therefore it is wrong to discriminate against. Somehow I don’t think your “friends” will see it that way.

    If being a transsexual “sex worker” with AIDS is protected by the ADA, then being a cracker bigot should be, too.

    • Fourscore

      Can I not just hate all races? Equal opportunity race hater? Do I have to pick and chose?

      If I hate all races then that must make all races equal. I give up. Can never get a break.

      • Tres Cool

        Uplifting and relevant.

  32. robc

    My mother is already well aware that I am an asshole.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      “My mother never understood the irony of calling me a ‘Son of a Bitch'”

      — Jack Nicholson

      • Fourscore

        Once, when I was working, someone called and asked “Does your mother run out from under the porch and bark when you come home?”

        I took that to be a disgruntled customer. It was funny though. Caller was very polite, not a trace of anger…

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Wasn’t his mother really his sister?

    • R.J.

      Makes me glad.
      Been at the Stars hockey game since 2:00. See you all later!

    • Tres Cool

      Tex Avery may not have had the best story or voices, but you cant beat the sound effects.

  33. Tres Cool

    “…Subtract x from both sides to get 9x = 3 then divide both sides by 9
    x = 3/9 = 1/3…”

    And look at it upside down it spells BOOBIES !

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Holy shit, it does

    • Derpetologist

      +1 5318008

  34. Derpetologist

    On my way to finding the astronomy club, I found a food truck that sells al pastor tacos. Yay me.

    • Tres Cool

      Recently my church had a guest bishop.
      They lied- he never once moved diagonally.

    • R.J.

      Were they free-range pastors, or youth pastors?

    • Chafed

      I guess I’m a white supremist.

  35. Chafed

    Where can I find these leggings ads of which you speak?

  36. DenverJ

    I uh, didn’t dile my taxes last year because I couldn’t pay them. My plan was to over pay thos year and hope it is a wash. Can that be done?

    • DenverJ

      Didn’t file em either

      • R.J.

        I am sure one of the many feds who spy on this site will answer you shortly.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Disclaimer: The following is entirely anecdotal, YMMV.

      Last year, after missing filing for 2021. When I filed for 2022 I flied my 2021 return, and filed 2022 a couple weeks later. Thus far, I have gotten no IRS hate mail, but I didn’t owe for either year, which very much could change the calculus in regards to penalties and the like.