Nevermind Your P’s and Q’s

by | Sep 21, 2024 | Beer, Food & Drink | 83 comments

Another stunning example of using Science!(TM) to oppress your enemies. By enemies, I mean British Subjects.

This is my review of Energren Schöner Tag:

As many here are aware, US and Imperial units while similar in name are often not the same*. So when “experts” suggest “measures” be taken for “safety” that involve reducing traditional units of measurement where such things are actually traditional, well…(TW: NY Post)

Your beer glass might soon become smaller — and this time, it’s not about shrinkflation.

A group of scientists in the UK — interested in finding innovative ways to encourage the public to cut back on excessive drinking — have released findings of a study involving a dozen pubs, bars and restaurants where pint glasses were swapped out for something slightly smaller.

The research, published in the journal PLOS Medicine, suggested that offering two-thirds of a pint as the largest size in drinkeries nationwide might be a boon for public health.

Researchers noted that during the trial, beer sales fell 9.7%. The move could lessen the extent of alcohol-related suffering, they said.

Emphasis mine. I don’t know about you, but if I go to a pub and pay full price for something I am clearly getting shorted, I’m going to not buy another and fine a new pub where I can at least get a full pint for the full price. Which appears to be the dynamic the “experts” here are missing.

The test was based on the idea that people often think in portions rather than portion sizes, grabbing one beer or one glass of wine, rather than sitting around debating milliliters or grams. 

When a similar trial with wine was conducted earlier this year, wine sales fell when the largest glass size was taken away.

Marteau and her team asked bars across the country to scrap the pint serving size and instead offer two-thirds as the largest option for four weeks, with four-week non-intervention periods before and after as a comparison.

These are the same experts that outlawed smoking for subjects born after 2009, at least their heart is in the right place right?

For the record, the researcher in question looks exactly the way you think she does.

Physiognomy: the one true social science

Another stunning example where one can sell beer simply by making beer. This is a bog standard Hefeweizen one might enjoy this time of year in almost every way. Other than splitting the difference between filtered vs. unfiltered, there is nothing unusual about this at all. Its not a banana smoothie but avoids being some high fallutin’ Blue Moon. Really its nice, and while it sounds like damnation with faint praise that is not my intent here. Energren Schöner Tag: 3.1/5

*An Imperial Pint is 20oz, while a US Pint is 16oz. For further confusion, a US Ounce is slightly larger than an Imperial Ounce.

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83 Comments

  1. The Late P Brooks

    Kneel before SCIENCE!

  2. Chafed

    The Brits, and the EU, are doing a magnificent job of regulating themselves into irrelevance. They need the Second Coming of Margaret Thatcher in the worst way.

    I love Hefeweisen. Thanks for pointing out a good one.

    • MikeS

      +1 I love Hefeweisen. Thanks for pointing out a good one.

    • MikeS

      Reply to last night’s thread:

      Motley Crue did a very good live cover of Jailhouse Rock. Last track on Girls, Girls, Girls

      That said, I do not want to hear them probably mangle Fight For Your Right.

      • Chafed

        That may be their one cover I haven’t heard. I’ll take your word for it.

    • Urthona

      Every Brit I’ve ever met tells me that each society ill they face now is because Margaret Thatcher was once their leader.

      The propaganda is too great to overcome.

      • Chafed

        They may need to go full Argentina before they realize the error of their ways.

    • rhywun

      The Brits, and the EU, are doing a magnificent job of regulating themselves into irrelevance.

      True, but the US is only one and a half steps behind.

      • Chafed

        Agreed, though I remain cautiously optimistic. The spirit of rebellion is still alive in the USA. It still remains our last, best hope.

    • R C Dean

      +1. Just ordered one at the beer store for my weekend beer. Can’t recall the brand – it’s German , but not cloudy. Sehr gut.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Hopefully, they can pull out their dive at Thatcher and before Mosely. Perhaps they can, but I remain skeptical.

  3. CPRM

    By “beer sales fell” are they referring to the volume of beer sold or the amount of money made? Because the latter is what one usually means by such phrasing, which yeah I would take mean ‘Oy, guvna, I’s gonna be knackerin oof ta da poob down the stroit, I is becooz you oint goot a proppa point ere!’

    • Rat on a train

      “Increasing price reduces demand” is not ground breaking.

      • Chipping Pioneer

        It is to these people.

    • Suthenboy

      Sin tax brings in revenue. Consumption is reduced. Govt, now addicted to the extra revenue must raise general taxes to maintain revenue.
      In the end targeted taxes become general taxes.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Exactly

  4. juris imprudent

    She needs a little more blue tint to be a Church Lady.

    • MikeS

      But she’s a cat lady, for sure.

      • Fourscore

        Consumer or saver?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Doesn’t look Haitian.

      • Fourscore

        Doesn’t look Haitian…

      • Chipping Pioneer

        This is what happens to Haitians after they live in England for a few years.

      • Fourscore

        I knew it, I knew it. The fast people always win, everything

      • MikeS

        The G-Hive

      • rhywun

        “Wait til you see my pussy!”

      • R.J.

        “Tell those Haitians to stop trying to eat my pussy!”

  5. The Late P Brooks

    By “beer sales fell” are they referring to the volume of beer sold or the amount of money made?

    I find it intensely annoying when some news story talks about sales being up or down without specifying whether they mean gross receipts or actual product quantity. And, of course, there is usually a reason for the obfuscation.

    • Chipping Pioneer

      Same with absolute numbers and percentages:

      HATE CRIME UP 50%!!!

      (from 2 to 3)

      • Rat on a train

        We just made our first sale. We’re the fastest growing company in the world.

      • R C Dean

        I can’t count the number of times I said “Give me the rate and the count” at the hospital.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        +1 How to Lie With Statistics

    • creech

      Reporter doesn’t know the difference. Like on Shark Tank where the seeker says they “made” whatever the last year. Or conflates profits with sales. Or some other dumb shit that convinces the viewer and the sharks that they don’t know jack about finances so take it out behind the barn and shoot it. [Odds on they are also all on board with whatever economic nonsense is coming out of Kommiela’s mouth.]

      • Suthenboy

        My two favorites: home business – a welder- tells me he made 40K in his garage part time. Take out expenses and then figure in his time. He made about 3 bucks per hour. Not many people think of it that way.

        Gamblers – brag about how much they won…they love doing that. Ask them how much money they went home with.

        There is more…and the more I think about it the more I am convinced the average person knows nothing about money or what to do with it.

      • Chafed

        Cuban is all in for Harris. O’Leary hates her.

      • DrOtto

        As a gambler, the gambling thing bugs me too. I leave the house with a set dollar amount and come home with a set dollar amount. And while I don’t do it needing the money, I do like to win. If I come home with less than I left with, I didn’t win, although I may have had a good hand or two but the day was still a loss. That’s when I console myself with how many “free” drinks I had.

      • UnCivilServant

        I am not a gambler. I like to win, but I assume whatever money I play is lost from the word go.

      • R C Dean

        “Ask them how much money they went home with.”

        And how much they showed up with.

      • Fourscore

        My step father liked to go to Vega, once or twice a year.

        He always came home and “Put money in the bank” He didn’t mention it was his SS check

      • trshmnstr

        I like to win, but I assume whatever money I play is lost from the word go.

        This. I’ve only gambled at a casino once. I considered it an entertainment fee and left after my $85 was gone. Didn’t win a single hand.

    • R C Dean

      “Journalists are stupid” is an explanation.

  6. Suthenboy

    “Comrade Khrushchev, we cant complete the project. We cant find anyone competent or sober to do it.”
    K: “We live in a country of drunks! They are useless!”
    “But Comrade, we have crushed all hope so the population turns to the bottle. It is human nature.”
    K: “Then we must change human nature! We. will create the New Soviet Man!”

    My take on the mentality of the totalitarian.

    Want the British to sober up? Stop crushing them under your boot and flooding their neighborhoods with savage rapists. That might put a big dent in it. I know, inconceivable.

    • Rat on a train

      Comrades, the Party has shortened vodka breaks to 10 minutes. Now get back to work.

      • rhywun

        No, they have increased them to five minutes.

  7. Suthenboy

    Also, dont low flush toilets and smaller beer glasses invariably result in increased consumption? The real motive of course is spite, not lower consumption.
    The usual two pints didnt quite do the trick, I better have a couple more.
    “Beer sales fell” <— by what metric?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I think the toilets actually do decrease water usage, depending on how the bowl is shaped. It’s certainly true of urinals.

    • MikeS

      My favorite. Fuck those guys.

      • rhywun

        Yup. Repeat x1000. It’s a real case of SMDH.

    • rhywun

      +1 defund the police

  8. Homple

    “*An Imperial Pint is 20oz, while a US Pint is 16oz. For further confusion, a US Ounce is slightly larger than an Imperial Ounce.”

    A while back I visited a new brew pub and ordered a pint of whatever. It was certainly not a pint, and I mentioned that to the owner. He told me it was an imperial pint, which is smaller than a US pint.

    I left the drink on the bar, left and never came back. I can’t say if the beer was good or bad because I didn’t even taste it.

    • MikeS

      A US pint is 473ml
      An Imperial pint is 568ml

    • Chipping Pioneer

      Did he have a man bun?

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Is a “pint” 16 oz in Limeyland? If not, how is it defined?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      From the article:

      *An Imperial Pint is 20oz, while a US Pint is 16oz. For further confusion, a US Ounce is slightly larger than an Imperial Ounce.

      • Ted S.

        You expect people to read the articles?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        I only expect you, Ted S, to read my articles. Everyone else I assume gets their rage bait or just skips to the beer review.

  10. rhywun

    This kind of do-gooderism reminds of a recent trend that has been pissing me off.

    All car commercials are for “electrics”.
    Every depiction of sodapop must be “zero sugar”.
    All energy concern commericals talk about how many billions of dollars they’re throwing at the effort to produce less energy.

    etc. etc.

    • Sean

      Let the hate flow through you.

      • rhywun

        I hate to; there is so much of it.

      • rhywun

        ugh “have”

      • R C Dean

        Works either way.

    • Suthenboy

      All part of the emerging culture of incompetence. We all know that what we will become (slavery, poverty and despair) must be unburdened by what has come before (success, prosperity, good health etc.)

  11. The Late P Brooks

    An Imperial Pint is 20oz, while a US Pint is 16oz.

    Is that a European ounce, or an African ounce?

    • MikeS

      Well, African ounces aren’t migratory, so it must be European.

      • UnCivilServant

        What about the Twoces or Threeces?

    • Suthenboy

      I thought the new standard of measure was the banana. As soon as I get used to one….

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Gambling- I used to play a little blackjack when I went through las Vegas. I considered it an entertainment expense. When my pre set number was gone, it was time to leave. I walked away with more than I started with a few times, but not often enough to make me think I had a future as a pro.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      As it turns out, casinos are not set up to lose money. Who knew?!

    • rhywun

      I am happy that I don’t like gambling.

      It took me twenty years to quit smoking. I have had one or two other “habits” that I finally kicked. I probably won’t quit drinking. But yeah I don’t need another vice.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Where did that fucking retarded expression “clap back” come from”

    • rhywun

      Mrs. Lightbringer?

    • Fourscore

      From the movie “The Return of Gonorrhea”

  14. UnCivilServant

    Why does data expand to fill available storage capacity?

    • trshmnstr

      Because my wife takes 400 photos a week and at some point the iPhone just gets full?

      • R.J.

        Same. The daughter takes at least 100 picture of the cats a week. I need AI to go in and delete them all.

    • MikeS

      Viel Spaß!

    • rhywun

      G’suffa!

      Wait, Sam Adams?! 🤨