Too Local: EAA Aviation Museum

by | Sep 24, 2024 | History, Travel | 104 comments

After I had to drop out of college in Las Vegas to move back home to deal with family issues, I finished my degree at The University of Wisconsin Oshkosh. The city of Oshkosh resides on the I-41 corridor between Milwaukee and Green Bay, along Lake Winnebago. Named after a Menominee Chief, the city is known for a few things, besides the drunkenness of the college students that garnered it the nickname Sloshkosh. Probably the most famous is Oshkosh Truck, which manufactures heavy duty industrial and military trucks. In the 70s and 80s when wearing bib overalls was trendy the brand Oshkosh B’Gosh also had a large footprint. The third thing the city is known for is the Experimental Aircraft Association, or EAA. This final one is the focus of today’s: TOO LOCAL!

The EAA was started in 1953 by some dudes who were into building or modifying the planes they flew. The group was headquartered in Hales Corner and then Milwaukee, before building a facility in Oshkosh where they could have both a headquarters and an airport to have their meet ups at. Every July they have their week long meet-up, AirVenture, which attracts 10,000-12,000 planes and a total attendance of more than 500,000. Traveling to Glib’s Gulch 1.0 I didn’t realize it was AirVenture week until I got stuck in a traffic jam in where none usually exists. This last time I took an alternate route. There is also a sizable museum on the site, with a stock of more than 200 aircraft.

Outside of plane geeks like DB or OwnBestEnemy, EAA AirVenture is probably best know to nerds for the reason Han Solo almost died. Harrison Ford is a longtime member of the EAA and has ties to the area, as he attended college at nearby Ripon College, and crashed his plane on the way to AirVenture in 2015. Don’t worry, he survived, only to be killed by his Emo Vador son.

Although I spent many hours in Oshkosh for FAR TOO MANY years. (Lots of people take 10 years to graduate!) I had never attended AirVenture, nor visited the museum. I decided this year I would rectify that. As AirVenture conflicted with other matters, it was a visit to the museum this spring. I dragged my nephew along and, by golly, we just had a swell time.

The museum is split into several sections, which start with historical air craft. Most of these are replicas of famous planes, like that of the Wright Brothers, or Lindberg’s Spirit of St. Louis.

The Historical section flows into the experimental section, which houses everything from home made oddities to record breaking planes. There is an exhibit on the Voyager, which circumnavigated the earth without stopping or refeuling in 1986. Their is also replica of Space Ship One, the first crewed private craft in space in 2004. Both of these were built by Burt Rutan, an EAA member. At Timed intervals the Space Ship One replica extends it’s descent air foils and a short video plays about its flight. Tonio would cream his pants.

Then you enter the military section, with, uh, the military planes on display.

There is also a section on the US government space program, but, meh, I don’t like this government shit.

The Children’s Museum is on the top floor, and it was pretty much the coolest part, with a wooden replica of an F-22 kids can sit in and spots to learn about stealth and other tech in the plane. Then there were flight simulators and different experiences and games that taught about aspects of flight.

So, visit Oshkosh! Get piss your pants drunk with the college kids! Then take a hung-over tour of the EAA Museum! Overall the museum evoked memories of the scene in The Rocketeer where the hero escapes Howard Hughes and the FBI by using a model of the Spruce Goose. For that alone it’s worth it.

Fun Fact: Oshkosh is bounded on the northern edge by Lake Butte Des Morts, which means mound of the dead. It was well known that this was named so because when the French were the dominant force in the area they went on a midnight raid with the allied natives to massacre an opposing tribe on the other side of the lake. The French wrote about it. But, a professor from prestigious school in Oshkosh opposed this idea, and it’s wrong-think that natives would kill each other, therefore this is fake news.

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104 Comments

  1. Pat

    So, visit Oshkosh! Get piss your pants drunk with the college kids! Then take a hung-over tour of the EAA Museum!

    You had me at piss your pants drunk.

    That actually looks really cool though. I’ve been meaning to go check out the WASP museum here in my new hometown since I moved last year.

    • Fourscore

      Some of those ladies passed would have passed my personal test, had I been a little older at the time.

    • Tundra

      Neat-o. Thanks, Pat

    • UnCivilServant

      I was expecting insects.

      Man, did I guess wrong.

      • Tundra
      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Nor this?

    • Nephilium

      The girlfriend and I were discussing the fact that neither of us have gone down to the football HoF down in Canton. We’re planning on rectifying that sometime when weekends slow down.

      • EvilSheldon

        That was one of the museums I worked on, back when I did museum exhibit engineering. It’s certainly worth a look.

    • R.J.

      Ladies get in free on Fridays!

  2. Sean

    Sounds fun.

  3. DEG

    That museum looks pretty neat

  4. The Late P Brooks

    Cool

  5. Tundra

    Nice write-up CPRM!

    I’ve been to AirVenture a few times and it’s absolutely worth the trip. It’s great to get up close and personal with so many cool airplanes.

    And that P-38 in the museum. Wood.

    • UnCivilServant

      It’s not aluminum?

      Faaaake!

      • Tundra

        It was also the first design from what would later be known as the Skunk Works.

        It was an amazing airplane.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re deliberately ignoring the joke, aren’t you?

      • CPRM

        The F-22 is the one that is wood. Literally.

      • Suthenboy

        Yeah…the P-38. Perfect illustration of the best laid plans…..everything about it was perfect from concept to build. Just that one little hitch about the performance.

      • Sensei

        Suthen – Allison V-12 x2 versus RR Merlin V-12 x 1 in a P51D.

      • Tundra

        @Suthen that plane shot down more Japanese planes than any other fighter. I think you may be recalling the troubles they had during development because once it was deployed it was a beast.

        Here’s more.

      • Sensei

        Tundra – I’m thinking that wound up in the Pacific for reasons of range and the fact that the Zero got outclassed pretty quickly.

      • Suthenboy

        As I recall the unforeseeable problem was that at top speeds, and it was a beast, especially in a dive the airflow caused a turbulence between the tails that would tear them off of the plane if it hit just right. They were great but the pilots had to resist topping them out.
        If they had had time to solve that one problem it would have been even further out the top fighter in the war. It was not meant to be a fighter but turned out to be a real badass machine.

      • cavalier973

        Plus, the P-38 could do lightning attacks, which killed nearly everything in range

    • Sensei

      Tundra – I didn’t realize they came that late to the theater.

      I did remember this:

      The first P-38 victory in the Pacific came about as more of an accident than a deliberate attack. For several weeks the P-38 pilots had little success at encountering Japanese aircraft; the Japanese pilots seemed to be avoiding the twin-boomed fighters. In late November, a flight of P-38s was patrolling over the Lae Airdrome and issuing taunts to the Japanese over the radio when one of the Japanese fighter pilots decided to take off. A young P-38 pilot from New Orleans named Ferrault went down to attack the Japanese fighter, then remembered he was carrying bombs and quickly jettisoned them. His plan was to come around and attack the Japanese fighter as soon as its wheels were retracted. The bombs fell in the water off the end of the runway. The unfortunate Japanese pilot flew into the water that had been tossed skyward by the explosions and crashed into the bay. General Kenney kidded the young Cajun that he did not deserve the promised Air Medal that was to go to the first P-38 pilot to achieve a victory since he had not shot the Japanese plane down, but later that evening he went over to the squadron and gave him the medal.

      • UnCivilServant

        Environmental damage doesn’t count!

  6. Gustave Lytton

    OT from ded thred. Smart sheets is automated form system. It’s clunky but it works. Replaces manual submissions of what used to be paper forms back when we had those and people to process them.

    • Sensei

      Thanks! Obviously I could have searched, but I love PRs that don’t explain anything.

      It comes from my past life as a stock analyst.

      • Gustave Lytton

        We use it a lot for form submission, intake requests, or one offs. Basically surveymonkey for business. I’m sure there’s more to it but that’s what I know.

  7. Drake

    Soros is buying 220 radio stations and since an election is coming up… The FCC is fast-tracking approvals.
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1838562719672259032

    Meanwhile Fish and Wildlife is slow walking approvals for SpaceX launches.

    • Sensei

      Do you want to see my shocked face?

      • rhywun

        It’s stuck that way, isn’t it?

      • Sean

        Somebody slapped him on his back.

    • UnCivilServant

      Today I learned – there are still radio stations.

    • rhywun

      I thought the very same outfit had rules against that sort of thing.

  8. Sean

    Speaking of shocked faces…

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/companies-are-quickly-firing-gen-z-employees/ar-AA1r4jLB

    Across the board, 75 percent of companies reported that some or all of their recent college graduate hires were unsatisfactory.

    Employers most often cited a lack of motivation in their recent graduate hires, at 50 percent, while 39 percent said poor communication skills and 46 percent said a lack of professionalism made this cohort difficult to work with.

    • Not Adahn

      “You’re not the boss of me!”

      • Nephilium

        Just shared that to one of my league’s group chats. 🙂

      • R C Dean

        The author looks exactly how you would expect a deputy editor at Ars Technica to look.

        Unsullied by testosterone.

    • Gustave Lytton

      “Those stupid fuckers actually believed our prehiring promises! Worse, they want us to honor those promises.”

    • Suthenboy

      Let me get this straight…Carville is pissed having to deal with the useful idiots that he actively helped to create? Do I have that right?

      “This ditch full of dead people. Why did you bring me here?” <—- hopefully it wont come to that for a few million 'studies' majors.

      • Suthenboy

        Also, not mentioned in the xeet – which one has pink hair, the dumb, fat bitch or the out of touch faggot?

    • Sean

      When a visibly shaken gay male staffer told Carville he needed to apologize for using the F word, Carville told him to take his camo hat and shove it up his ass before leaving the call.

      L O L

      • UnCivilServant

        If you’re shaken up over a few slurs, you’re in the wrong line of work.

        Might I recommend Hermit? The pay is miniscule, but you’re not going to hear anyone talk to you.

      • Suthenboy

        Carville doesnt pull punches. He actually does have some stones. He is dead wrong about everything, which is quite a feat, but he is no coward. If more than single digits of R’s had half his brass we would not be where we are now.

      • rhywun

        Perfect punch line.

      • R.J.

        Hahahahaha!

      • R.J.

        Blazing Saddles, “Watch! Me! Faggots!” Is the first thing that came to mind.
        Only clip I found requires age verification.
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGy1yKy3qyI

      • Drake

        More shock at the staff composition of the DNC.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Sounds like an Edith Piaf song. “Et la joie est disparue.”

  9. Ownbestenemy

    Nice article CPRM. Now where’s my $2 for the name drop

    • UnCivilServant

      We actually bill for shout-outs. You need to send us $20.

      • rhywun

        Same as in downtown Oshkosh.

      • Pat

        icwutudidthar

    • Nephilium

      See, the problem here is that… my little brother, this morning, got his arm caught in the microwave, and uh… my grandmother dropped acid and she freaked out and hijacked a school bus full of… penguins, so it’s kind of a family crisis… so come back later? Great.

  10. UnCivilServant

    Why are all the longshoremen at all the ports represented by one union? And why hasn’t the union leadership been “disappeared” now that they walked away from the negotiating table?

    • UnCivilServant

      We need antitrust provisions for organized crime.

      • DrOtto

        The DNC would fight hardest against this since they are the largest organized crime outfit in the nation, so it ain’t gonna happen.

      • UnCivilServant

        So what you’re saying is we need to bust them up into smaller outfits.

      • R C Dean

        Unions are specifically exempted from the antitrust laws.

      • UnCivilServant

        Unions have too many protections, they are businesses engaged in extortion and need to be treated as such.

    • Tundra

      RIP smart man.

      You ever buy buy one of his RDs?

      • Sensei

        I had a Passport. Great unit.

      • Dr Mossy Lawn

        I still have a gen1 Valentine One on my CBR900RR. Wonderful system, remote display & audio. Had to add a capacitor to stabilize the 12V supply on the bike.

      • Tundra

        I had the Passport as well. Saved me many times.

    • Tundra

      Lol. Very nice.

    • Suthenboy

      I find the AI creations a bit creepy. That Frodo creature is extra creepy. Twink hobbit? Yikes.
      It is plain to me that they are studying how to appeal to human psychological weaknesses through subconscious cues. I know when someone is trying to manipulate me. The way I am built that immediately makes me take a deep dislike and mistrust towards that….entity.

    • kinnath

      Better than anything Amazon put out.

  11. hoof_in_mouth

    Hey, it’s my people! I’ve been there 30+ times, really the best-run event I’ve ever been to. I built a plane and flew it there in ’22. One of these days I’ll finish up the series of articles about it. This is a Zenith 750 with a Jabiru 120hp engine. https://share.icloud.com/photos/027zzIMnpvQwcopeXW–xR39Q

    • UnCivilServant

      That plane looks like it shrank in the wash.

      • UnCivilServant

        I get that it is a small, single person craft, but the proportions are unexpected and look… off.

      • hoof_in_mouth

        837 lbs empty weight. It’s actually way wider across the shoulders than a Cessna 150 or even a Piper Archer. Here’s a full side view. Yeah, it’s boxy, most parts came off a flat cnc machine but if all the holes line up you know it’s about right. https://share.icloud.com/photos/0190S729I-zJ1NOjN1WBi_yqg

    • Sensei

      I have a friend who is a huge GA fan so I knew about the airplane, but not the motor.

      Looks like Australia was none too pleased with the manufacturer initially.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabiru_3300

    • Tundra

      Very nice!

      You did a great job on the paint! What avionics package did you get?

      • hoof_in_mouth

        The plane is just plain (ha) white paint and polished aluminum, the green is vinyl so I can change it someday

    • Sean

      “That’s a shame.”

    • R.J.

      “Vell, back to the drawink board Natasha.”

  12. Mojeaux

    A dude at church who is a meteorologist went up there for the air show for work and my husband’s best dudebropal was there also. I didn’t even know it was a thing 3 months ago and then it’s all I see since I learned of it.

    • Sensei

      Wondered how he pulled off the repair…

      “The pilot, also a mechanic, was able to fix the plane and then took off again from the Interstate.”

      LOL.

      • UnCivilServant

        Loose hose? Bolt needed tightening?

      • Not Adahn

        Thermostat needed replacing.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nah, the thermostat just needed checking – the filter needed changing.

      • whiz

        Reboot the avionics.

      • MikeS

        Jiggled a couple wires. Tapped on a thingy.

      • db

        Probably put some gas in it

  13. db

    I’ve been actually working all day (and still in a meeting with our Asian overlords), sad I missed this so far.

  14. db

    I am an officer and board member in our local EAA chapter and while I haven’t ever been to the famous week long midsummer airshow at Oshkosh, I did attend an EAA leadership conference where we were taken on a special tour of the EAA museum and got to see some non public areas and parts of the collection. I actually got to climb up in and sit in the cockpit of a Dehavilland Mosquito bomber, and Paul Poberezny’s (founder of EAA) personal P-51 Mustang.