300 Comments

  1. PieInTheSky

    The meltdown continues unabated. – winter is coming the cold should reduce the melting

    • Gender Traitor

      “But…but…global warming climate change!!!!!!!!/hysterical progs

      • AlexinCT

        How much rending of clothes will go down as this shit is shut down?

  2. PieInTheSky

    ‘#EndtheFed’: Elon Musk endorses plan to let presidents meddle with Federal Reserve after Trump election win – Elon should take a break once in a while

    • AlexinCT

      To quote Milei on what to do about government crap: AFUERA!

  3. PieInTheSky

    Kari Lake Loses Senate Race by Thin Margin After GOP Leadership Spends $0 on Her Campaign – do you think more spending would have made a difference?

    • Not Adahn

      It depends on what they spent their money on.

      If they had given me a large sum for consulting work, well… it wouldn’t have been any worse.

    • The Last American Hero

      She is a shit candidate. Please have her stop running.

  4. PieInTheSky

    Trump announces his new ‘border czar’ Tom Homan to lead the biggest mass deportation in U.S. history – you should ask people nicely if they would be interested in leaving before starting deporting and stuff…

    • AlexinCT

      The heifers on The View hardest hit.

      Months of shows acting as if Tom comes for them for the usual idiots that watch that shitshow.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Trump Victory Sends US Stocks to Best Weekly Rally in a Year – this helps the rich more than the poor. typical republican. the poor voted against their interest.

  6. PieInTheSky

    Helooooo. Anybody here?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Copy pasta much?

    • Gender Traitor

      Good afternoon, Pie! Always appreciate your perspective and wry take on all things American! 😉

      • AlexinCT

        Don’t invite the Vampire into your abode! It renders you powerless….

      • Gender Traitor

        Don’t worry, Alex – I exercise my inalienable right to keep and bear garlic.

  7. SDF-7

    ‘#EndtheFed’: Elon Musk endorses plan to let presidents meddle with Federal Reserve after Trump election win

    Intervene…. demolish…. “Let’s not quibble over ‘oo killed ‘oo… This is a happy occasion!”

    Morning, Banjos — morning all. Good evening to our resident multi-firsting undead.

  8. rhywun

    [Crazy person says] that liberals who were devastated by Donald Trump’s presidential re-election should separate from family members who voted for him

    Their family members will thank them.

    • Nephilium

      It’s a true way to show unity and togetherness, shun the heretic.

      • AlexinCT

        Remember when they claimed Biden won in 2020 and anyone that didn’t want him to unite the country was a domestic terrorist? Yeah, none of that applies now.

    • PieInTheSky

      Not all people want to be separated from relatives based on politics… I mean yeah you don’t want constant arguments, but there should be other ways to avoid that.

      • Suthenboy

        There are but they are….illegal

      • EvilSheldon

        Unfortunately, ‘being a mature adult’ is off the table for these people.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      It’s hard for the left to win elections if people think their families might care more about them than Nancy Pelosi.

  9. PieInTheSky

    Today people are later than the counting of the congress races votes

    • rhywun

      Some of us read the articles.

      • PieInTheSky

        I have read some not all. But I always open an article and browse it before I comment. Except the ones where I am geoblocked or are under paywall.

      • Suthenboy

        “Some of us read the articles”

        When did this start?

      • bacon-magic

        Just here for the pics.

    • Rat on a train

      I slept in, had a quiet breakfast, and caught up on the flow of derp before heading over here.

    • juris imprudent

      Per WSJ, Marc Elias thinks he can overturn McCormick’s win over Casey. All I can think of is that Texas saying about a man that needed killin’.

      • Rat on a train

        He keeps enough spare ballots in his trunk.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Do EV’s even have trunks?

        Asking for a friend…

      • The Last American Hero

        They have 2 trunks.

  10. SDF-7

    Trump announces his new ‘border czar’ Tom Homan to lead the biggest mass deportation in U.S. history

    I look forward to him running for President and being told that wasn’t a real position and he didn’t do anything.

    That’s the standard now…. right, jackasses?

    But best of luck to them — we’ve discussed before that step 1 is shut off the taps here. Which as mentioned involves cutting off the spigots to the NGOs first and prosecuting them for trafficking if they foster getting people into the country illegally. Step 1.5 might be to make clear high bars for amnesty and auto-deny anything that doesn’t meet it (to stop the NGOs using that as a loophole… but hopefully stopping the spigot would cut down on it in the first place). Step 2 is probably what I think he’s already doing – put pressure on Mexico to stop fostering them. Step 3 can be actually building the wall — with the extra annoyance of having to repurchase materials because they let it all rot / sold it at scrap prices out of spite.

    • robodruid

      I like the idea of prosecuting NGO’s.
      But is that worthy of a glib position?

      • juris imprudent

        Stopping govt funding is enough I think.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^^THIS^^^^

        End the money from taxpayer misallocated by criminal government, and a lot of the problems solve themselves…

      • Suthenboy

        Yes, put a stake in the heart of that monster and most of the problems will die on their own. I am not opposed to prosecuting the NGO people…they are after all part of a very large criminal conspiracy. Why not both?

      • SarumanTheGreat

        Agree with JI. No charity, NGO, etc. should receive any funding from government PERIOD. What government funds have done to them has turned them effectively into hamburger helper, third-party cutouts doing things the government can’t legally do.

        And most are very happy to do so.

    • The Last American Hero

      Put the national guard down there to, you know guard our nation.

  11. juris imprudent

    The final price tag on 2024 political advertising: Almost $11 billion

    So much money spent and so little to show for it. You’d think people might rethink their approach to messaging.

    • robodruid

      Broken window fallacy? lots of consultants made money.

      • Fourscore

        I saved the taxpayers money .

    • robodruid

      Actually. For that money, would it not be cheaper to UBER all the voters to the polls?

    • Nephilium

      Depends on how much was spent on the end product and how much was spent on consulting, executive vice presidents/producers, and other similar positions.

    • AlexinCT

      So much money spent and so little to show for it. You’d think people might rethink their approach to messaging.

      I think 11 billion is peanuts when you have rackets like climate change and the endless wars that are worth several trillions and a new global order that will allow you to go all malthusian marxist and feudalist on those that survive and own nothing (and be happy or else), to protect.

      • Rat on a train

        Yes. The ROI if they gain control is large.

      • juris imprudent

        The ROI if they gain control is large.

        Except for all of the spending, and I am talking the Dem side here, they didn’t gain control. The advertising did not work.

      • AlexinCT

        Hear you loud and clear JI, but the thing is if they had “won” – and that is in quotes because they cheat like fucking hell- this thing, it would have been totally worth it…

        I bet the lesson they take away isn’t to spend less, but to double the amount they spent.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I mean it’s $11 billion for the ability to control trillions.

  12. SDF-7

    Woke Georgia DA Deborah Gonzalez pummeled in re-election bid after refusing Laken Riley murder case

    Yeah — even in Athens-Clarke County, I can’t imagine this would fly. Outside of Athens proper is still fairly rural GA (Athens isn’t that big, or at least it wasn’t 25 years ago when I was last at UGA). Athens proper is a college town — and making the coeds feel unsafe on campus is going to mess with the town’s livelihood and spook the students… not great for your career prospects. You have to keep things safe without overtly keeping things safe (to dodge the ACAB contingent these days, I bet).

    • AlexinCT

      I saw that a large number of the Soros cash crooks put into government took it in the teeth in this election.

      People will stop bending over for ya when you then refuse to give them the reach around..

  13. juris imprudent

    No party is obligated to spend money on someone they don’t want in office. The establishment Republican world didn’t want Lake, that’s their choice – and they’re lucky she lost.

    • PieInTheSky

      but if in the US there are primaries should the party not sort of respect the wish of the primary voters? few as they may be…

      • SDF-7

        qui habet praecepta auri

      • juris imprudent

        Fuck primaries, particularly that I have to fund. These are private organizations – they can do their own decision making, with or without the participation of the hoi polloi (and certainly WITHOUT any cross-over voting).

      • Homple

        The Republican Party despises its voters. It loves its lobbyists, but voters are necessary inconveniences.

    • Drake

      Hopefully Trump gives her a job and continues to punish the “establishment” shit bags who have tried so hard to destroy the party.

      • Pope Jimbo

        JI:

        Sure make the woman be in charge of all the ironing. That won’t be held against Trump at all.

      • juris imprudent

        Oh c’mon, the media putting her down after KJP – that’s going to be hysterical.

      • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

        I’d like to see Christina Pushaw doing the ironing in the WH

  14. rhywun

    Powell said he would not resign from his post if Trump asked him to do so

    I don’t understand this. Someone must have the power to sack this guy. If not the Pres, then who??

    • SDF-7

      Elizabeth Warren, probably.

    • Drake

      Head of the Rothschild family?

      I don’t understand the hate towards Powell.

      • rhywun

        TBF, the Fed stuff is not an issue I pay any attention to or understand much – I just find this “civil service” job-for-life bullshit appalling.

      • R C Dean

        Supposedly, the rate cut a month or two ago was election interference.

        Just ignore the unprecedented rate increases over the years before that, I guess.

    • juris imprudent

      Congrats, you’ve uncovered one of Ron Paul’s complaints with the Fed. It was deliberately established to be only accountable to the banks it serves.

      • AlexinCT

        Agreed.

      • WTF

        I’m sure there’s some invisible ink or special arcane code somewhere in the constitution that allows that.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        If the fed is a bank, then it has a banking license (or however the gov’t allows this shit) and you just pull that from them for shenanigans.

  15. AlexinCT

    Election Integrity 2024: Wins and more battles ahead

    Karma is a bitch. The left got itself tapped and unable to do what it really wanted by virtue of their own crooked standards. Now, I get that the left isn’t hypocritical – you have to actually care about your reputation, which they don’t, because for them all is fair in the pursuit of power – but they still painted themselves into a corner. They are willing to do anything to get the upper hand (tossing Biden and switching to Harris for example). Bear with me.

    The left roleplayed the election result scenarios – to prepare and know which paths to take to score, should things get stuck – hardcore. However, their assumptions were that the election would remain close enough for them to have that excuse. Unfortunately, no amount of propaganda, lies, and fearmongering from the usual propagandists in the lame stream media and social media spheres was able to cancel X’s ability to immediately debunk their shit (man did this play a YUGE role). Worse for them, this time the RNC was loaded for bear, had lawyers and watchers of their own, knew all the mechanisms for cheating the left used in 2020, and most importantly, became aware of the illegal invasion and the plan to boost counts with votes from them, and cock blocked that shit. The election was not even close, and there went thousands of hours of that roleplaying.

    But they had no fear. See, they had a second option they worked hard on: the popular vote. The expectation was Trump was not going to get that, and that would open the way for all sorts of legal shenanigans, including that compact set up by blue states that would let them ignore the electoral vote, and throw their support to the democrat. Then Trump went and won that too, and convincingly. There went another shitton of prep work to cheat.

    It was not an accident that Harris took 24hrs to concede. That was so the legal team could analyze their options to resist the crushing defeat. In the end they saw no path to win, and then conceded, but the legal teams switched to desperately trying to steal the Senate and House. So far it looks like they lose the Senate no matter what, but they are finding votes everywhere to reduce the margin. And they are doing their best t keep the house close too (since it looks they can’t take it).

    I am still expecting them to get militant. Whether it is riots and looting to create chaos on the streets, or to try and murder Trump again. These fuckers are in a panic. The screaming in the media about Trump talking about vengeance is by design. This is how they want to prevent him from seeking justice. And justice is not just warranted, but needed. The left will go right back to abuses of power unless that power is used against them to make sure they know that – as they say – “Nobody is above the law”. Brennan, Clapper, and their directs all need to be the first to face justice. Obama set those two to orchestrate the Russia collusion cabal after their campaigns to spy on and undermine Trumps 2016 campaign turned into a win that prevented the plan of 8 years of Hillary, to finish the country’s fundamental change into a marxist shithole, came crashing down. And they then spun up a cabal of other shit, including that letter from 51 intel people claiming the Biden family was not another democrat crime syndicate like the Obamas, the Clintons, the Schumers, the Pelosis, and so forth.

    It is going to get ugly still. These criminals are now cornered, and will not go without a fight. Don’t let down your guard.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’re not done yet I’m sure but the wind’s (mostly) out of their sails and we have Trump winning the popular vote to thank for it. It’s riskier to go after a guy that more than half the country supports.

      • AlexinCT

        Well, I suspect for some of them it is a lot riskier to let that orange guy they have been going after, abusing & using every avenue of power available to them, get power now…..

        So the options are to make up shit about how Iran is trying to kill him, have their people kill, him, then show Vance a picture of his family and tell him get on the train and lest bomb Iran, Russia, and so forth, or else….

      • Pope Jimbo

        I hope that the GOP forces California to award all their EC votes to Trump under the Popular Vote Compact. Just to rub their noses in it.

      • Urthona

        All they have to do is wait two years to flip the house or senate. This is America and people will want a change quickly.

        trump has about two years and I hope he prioritizes what’s important quickly.

  16. SDF-7

    Kari Lake Loses Senate Race by Thin Margin After GOP Leadership Spends $0 on Her Campaign

    Yeah, maybe… I don’t trust the vote (admittedly with no evidence, just saying my gut here JI) with “ex-SoS who was in charge of her own election as Governor, hand-picking her successor” frankly. And articles like <a href="https://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2024/11/11/why-there-wasnt-as-much-democratic-cheating-this-year-in-battleground-states-n2647592"this do raise an interesting question…. the Green Senate candidate got 575 votes in the primary, but got 400% more votes in the election than the Green presidential candidate — 63k…. funny that. Maybe a whole heck of a lot of Greens in AZ didn’t care to vote in the primary, still wanted a Green senate candidate — but were Trump or Kamala voters “to save democracy”. Yeah, it can happen…. but in that state, I’m smelling week old fish. :shrug:

    As with all of these messes — we really need to get back to simple, verified and quickly counted to waft away the stench of corruption. And we know the likelihood of that.

    • rhywun

      It bears repeating that America routinely condemns the same election practices used in America when we observe them used in other countries.

      And because voting is a state issue, there isn’t a damn thing to do about it.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Does seem that the Trump voters who gave him the victory in Arizona would vote for the sorta female Trump but the process there is so muddied that good luck getting all that sorted out.

      • Urthona

        She was consistently polling like 8 points behind Trump. just a remarkably bad candidate. Anyone else would’ve won.

    • Fourscore

      Somehow Green in AZ sounds like a contradiction…

  17. DEG

    Over the course of the 2024 presidential campaign, Trump also often flirted with the idea of giving himself a say in Fed policy if he were to win the White House again.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Just end the Fed.

    • Suthenboy

      Yes, end the Fed.
      If not that, I dont think Trump having a say would make things worse than it is now.

      I am hoping the lunacy we are seeing are just a small vocal minority, but I am all for them making themselves easily identifiable.

      • Urthona

        I don’t think the president should have a say mostly. That’s worse than having the Fed.

        But end the Fed yes.

        Realistically, though, you’ve got a couple years. Pick some battles you can win too.

    • Fourscore

      Lowes got more positive free advertising for very little cost. Menard’s have a vet discount every day. I don’t shop there very often and never ask for the discount. I was refused an Instant Credit Card at Menard’s because I had no credit record.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Yeah, 10% off at Lowes any day of the year is a nice incentive for some of us – especially when it also includes appliances, etc.

  18. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Blue Bracelets: God do I hope this last election was the beginning of the end of tolerating this performative, narcissistic crap. I guess there have always been a surprising number of people with broken brains but with social media they’re out there for all to see and it’s gotten old.

    • AlexinCT

      We should definitely make it so.

    • Rat on a train

      Face tat or you aren’t serious about the cause.

      • R C Dean

        I want this to catch on.

      • Grumbletarian

        Maybe a large blue D on the forehead.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        I think an L would work better.

      • EvilSheldon

        I wonder if any of them have considered colloidal silver?

    • Pope Jimbo

      How much of it is just vapid idiot attempting to go viral and get famous?

      Don’t they realize that Hawk Tuah girl is a much better path to fame and fortune?

      • AlexinCT

        As usual, your holiness, you drop great wisdom on the masses.

    • Tonio

      I don’t think they’ll be able to let it go. Ever. This is the best hope for blue state secession.

      • AlexinCT

        People realizing they are in a cult and then option out on their own is a very rare phenom. The left unfortunately has become a cult.

    • creech

      I suppose things never change. Back in ’64, after Goldwater got creamed, there was a little gold colored lapel pin “27” (the number of million votes Goldwater got) that was briefly in vogue with his supporters. I’ve still got one around here somewhere.

  19. Not Adahn

    On TikTok, a small business owner named Alicia shared some options from her company, Beaded & Balanced Jewelry, saying she’d sold more than 200 since the trend began

    Look out Elon! The economic might of the AWFLs will break you!

    • rhywun

      Yeah, one problem is the media trawling Tik Tok and the like for ridiculous crap like this and magnifying it all out of proportion.

      Step away from the Tik Tok, folks. That is the only way it ends.

      • Nephilium

        But then where can I share a video myself crying and screaming in my car to get fawning adoration and praise for my strength?

      • Not Adahn

        They had to go SOMEWHERE for their news, once Elon defiled the sanctity of Twitter.

      • AlexinCT

        You should not be able to share that shit. Instead someone should commit your sorry ass to a mental asylum?

  20. Pope Jimbo

    Suthen:

    From the ded thread you asked about election shenanigans and why they keep happening. Because the classics never go out of style

    A narrow winning margin for the DFL candidate for a St. Cloud-area seat in the Minnesota House has widened.
     
    Election night returns showed DFL state Rep. Dan Wolgamott defeating Republican challenger Sue Ek by 28 votes in District 14B. A revised tally has the Wolgamott edge at 191 votes.

     
    But on Friday morning, Sherburne County announced that election staff identified some mail-in absentee ballots that were not included in the unofficial totals on election night. Those additional ballots gave Wolgamott a larger vote edge, which would put the race outside the margin for an automatic recount, barring any more changes.
     
    County officials say it appears that data from a ballot-scanning machine at the Sherburne County Government Center in Elk River did not fully transfer to the state election reporting system. The delayed upload was limited to one scanner.

     

    “All of the ballots are here physically. They were all logged in,” Messelt said. “We’ve tracked (their) chain of custody, and they were actually counted on Election Day. They just did not get updated to the website for public viewing.”

    In this race, the challenger Ek was up. Then the Sec of State’s website tally for the race went back to zero for each. When it came back up the DFL candidate was up by 28 votes. Now it appears that they located some Trunk Ballots to pad that a bit.

  21. Pope Jimbo

    Peak “Gorillas in the Mist” reporting?

    I am an anthropologist of peace and conflict, and I have been studying what I call the Trumpiverse since 2015, when Trump descended a golden escalator and announced his candidacy for president. I later wrote a related book in 2021, called “It Can Happen Here.”
     
    To this end, I have attended Trump rallies, populist and nonpartisan events and meetings where Democrats and Republicans connect and talk. Along the way, I have spoken with Trump supporters ranging from the Make America Great Again, or MAGA, faithful to moderate “hold the nose and vote for him” conservatives.
     
    And indeed, many on the left fail to understand who Trump voters are and how they vary. Trump’s base cannot simply be dismissed as racist “deplorables,” as Hillary Clinton famously said in 2016, or as country bumpkins in red MAGA hats. Trump voters trend older, white, rural, religious and less educated. But they include other groups, including Latinos and male voters.

    Anthropologist of peace and conflict? The fart sniffing must have been exhausting.

    • Not Adahn

      “Five reasons why delusional and ignorant people voted for Trump and why you should pity them.”

  22. AlexinCT

    So, I have a question for the Glibronis….

    I see the Harris campaign is broke and $20 million in the hole, but what really caught my attention is the story that Winfrey was PAID $1 million to set up her shitshow for Harris. And how many of those celebs we joked came out for fear of being on the Epstein or Diddy lists were also paid to endorse? Was it all wasted millions trying to get these fools to give her lip service?

    And what does this mean for people this shit does influence, now finding out they were played? Or are they to stupid to care or realize they were being played?

    • trshmnstr

      Or are they to stupid to care or realize they were being played?

      This. Those who care what TayTay or Oprah have to say we’re never the sharpest crayon in the box. They’ll Gell-Mann amnesia away any inconvenient info and vote for the D next time around when [insert next big professional pretender] does a paid endorsement.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, voting D is just a status symbol for a lot of people – especially those who are insulated from all the destructive policies they support.

      • AlexinCT

        Luxury beliefs: holding a hole bunch of insane position with severe costs and consequences, but not caring because you are so far insulated from any consequences that it doesn’t matter.

        Team blue is massively infested with people holding luxury beliefs and idiots that have been convinced those luxury beliefs will not impact them even when it does.

  23. Necron 99

    OT, life update. I had been experiencing pain on the left side of my face for over a year. Told my dentist about it when it first was starting and he didn’t see a dental reason for it and told me to talk to my PCP. I did, he looked at labs and didn’t have much to contribute. Six months later back at the dentist and he see a fistula on my upper gum where I had two root canals, sends me to an endodontic and they cut open my gum and remove the root from the top. Unfortunately the pain persisted.

    Six months later I go back to my dentist and tell him to start pulling teeth; I am slowly committing suicide via Tylenol and wish to be out of pain. He does a more thorough investigation and finds a sublingual gland under my tongue has swollen, and sends me to an oral surgeon. Oral surgeon takes one look and sends me to an ENT. The ENT doctor scheduled a surgery at Baylor Scott and White in Fort Worth, but wants me to get a CT scan and see a thyroid doctor before surgery. CT was easy, thyroid doctor did an ultrasound of my neck and scheduled me for a biopsy on nodules on my thyroid the next day. Went in and had that done, and man oh man, that sucked mightily. But it was done and the next week I got the results, papillary thyroid cancer. What do we do about that? Surgery. But we have to wait until they do genetic sequencing before we know if we need a full thyroid removal or only a lobe. So the next day, Wednesday last week, I went in to remove the sublingual gland mass.

    Baylor Scott and White is a nice hospital, everyone was friendly and helpful, but still it was surgery and I was fully knocked out. The lump was removed, I think it finally stopped the incessant, low-grade pain I’ve been experiencing, but hard to say since I hurt in so many other ways. Two 5mg hydrocodine pills have been helping, but still swollen and sore. Have an appointment this week to see the ENT and find results of the tumor in the mouth. Operation notes say the pathology is consistent with mucoepidermoid carcinoma. They had to incubate my through the nose so I had a bloody nose for a few days, but whatever.

    Now I wait. I am currently a two time cancer survivor, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma and renal cell carcinoma that took out my right kidney. I guess this may be numbers three and four, papillary thyroid cancer and mucoepidermoid carcinoma. PTC seems easy to treat, another surgery and hormones forever. Not sure about MEC, we shall see but likely radiation therapy.

    Anyway, I learned Harris lost (don’t care Trump won, just that the retard is not to be the face of the US) while I was being prepped for surgery, and it made me happy. Had plenty of time to bask in liberal tears since. My sister loves me and has been in fairly consistent contact, but she turned her Facebook page black in mourning of the retard, whatever, I still love her as well. I’m all the immediate family she have left, my only regret is she takes this bullshit so seriously.

      • Fourscore

        Neph, it’s people like you that embarrass me with my trivialities. Keep up the good work.

        Glibs are the best! And what the others have said.

      • Nephilium

        Fourscore:

        Just want to make it clear that it’s Necron fighting this, not me.

        I’ve been very lucky in that cancer does not seem to run in my family history.

      • Fourscore

        Thanks for the correction. Too early for me

      • Sensei

        +1 from metro NYC!

      • Necron 99

        Thank’s for your support. It’s good to have a bunch of reprobates in my virtual corner, it really does mean a lot to me.

        I shall kick this and carry on, as has become my way. And with an army of dorky libertarians behind me, well, what could possibly go wrong. Much love to all, Necron, Peace.

      • Necron 99

        Meant as a reply to all, not just JI. Again, thanks, lov3 and peace.

    • Ted S.

      Ouch! Get well soon!

      Some years back my dad had terrible facial pain that turned out to be trigeminal neuralgia.

    • Gender Traitor

      Best wishes, Necron! Hope your pain subsides as the immediate effects of the surgery wear off, and I hope any malignancies are treatable!

    • Pope Jimbo

      Uffda! Sorry to hear about your travails Necronsy. Sending good thoughts your way.

      Reach out if you need anything. Glibs has been extraordinary source of good feelings. Weird that you weirdos did such a good job of being a virtual shoulder to cry on when my dad passed away a few years ago, but you were and did.

      I really hope that you tell your sister that your last wish is for a family photo and that you all wear Trump 2024 t-shirts in it. Bonus points if you make her wear a handmaid’s outfit.

    • AlexinCT

      Jeeze man, stay strong…

    • Sean

      Oof. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but best wishes for a speedy and full recovery!

    • Tonio

      Sorry to hear. Cancer sucks. Stay strong.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Dude, best wishes, and stay in contact with your sister, no one else will do this in the end, and none of it is worth losing that.

    • mindyourbusiness

      Hang in there, brother. You aren’t alone.

    • Tundra

      Damn. Sorry, man. Prayers incoming.

    • Common Tater

      Sorry 🙁

      Get well soon!

    • The Last American Hero

      We can rebuild him. Stronger. Faster. Better. We have the technology.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I learned Harris lost (don’t care Trump won, just that the retard is not to be the face of the US) while I was being prepped for surgery

      “I hope you all are Republicans.”

      • Necron 99

        LOL, the surgery prep lady seemed a bit salty. But as a “none of the above, although especially not her” type, I didn’t bask in the L.

    • EvilSheldon

      Well that fucking sucks. Except the parts about already having fucked up a bunch of other cancers, that’s cool. Here’s hoping that you feel better soon.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I like the answer to the charge of tearing families apart. “Deport them together”.

      Been my default answer to that for years. What sort of parents wouldn’t want their kids to go with them if they had to leave the country?

      • Sean

        +1

      • Fourscore

        Can we keep our money, too?

        “Please don’t throw me in that briar patch….”

    • Not Adahn

      The day after the US gets punted from NATO is the day Europe ceases to exist.

      Eh, that’s not true. It’d probably take more than a day to get tanks into Paris.

      • Drake

        Why would the Russians want that mes?

      • Not Adahn

        As a buffer zone against US aggression, ‘natch.

        More seriously, who said I was talking about Russia?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, and I’ve not been happy with Sean Strickland’s performances lately and if he doesn’t get things straight I’m going to give him a right good thrashing. Give me a break, you don’t expell us, we expell you (but we won’t bother because your pissant country is an afterthought anyway when it comes to military power).

      That being said, I hope he does it: NATO sucks.

    • rhywun

      Did he give a reason?

      • AlexinCT

        Without the US to do the heavy lifting, NATO is about as useful as tits on a bull.

      • Not Adahn

        Without clickbait, there would be no media.

        Without media there would be no lynx!

    • Suthenboy

      Bite the hand that feeds? Knock yourself out cupcake.

    • creech

      “Stop it right now or, so help me, I’m going to turn this car around and go home.”

  24. Pope Jimbo

    We aren’t worthy of King Walz!

    “We know what’s coming down the pike,” he said. “We know it because they told us. And we’re gonna have to be ready to defend the progress we made in Minnesota.” Walz said he will take Trump up on his rhetoric that certain issues should be left to the states.
     
    “I’m willing to take them at their word for that. But the moment they try to bring a hateful agenda into this state, I’m ready to stand up and fight,” he said. And in a series of clauses that began with “As long as I am governor of Minnesota …” Walz said he would defend reproductive rights, welcome immigrants, fight climate change, defend children’s right to attend school without worrying about gun violence, respect democracy and stand up for working people “no matter who they voted for.”
     
    Walz said that 1.5 million voters in Minnesota voted for Trump and vice-president-elect JD Vance “and while there might not be a place in our state for the most-extreme elements of that agenda, there should be a place in our politics for everyone to be heard.
     
    “Sometimes we can be quick to judge people who don’t agree with us, to assume that they act out of cruelty or fear or self-interest,” Walz said. “I don’t think that kind of judgment is helpful right now and I don’t think it’s right. I think we — and I’m speaking about myself — need to swallow a little bit of pride and try harder to find common ground with our neighbors who didn’t vote like we did.

    Imagine the vapors and video edits if Trump had said that.

    • WTF

      What a load of vapid horse shit.

      • rhywun

        Why do you hate progress?

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Well, get on you video editing horse and show how much of an ass he is!

      • Pope Jimbo

        Don’t try to make me enact your labor! I can be as stubborn as a mule!!

    • Fourscore

      I’ll be glad when he stops helping us. I can’t afford much more help.

      We’ve had the nicest past year, following last year’s drought. Fall has been great and the near term is still unseasonably warm. I’m guessing it was the anticipation of a Walz victory and he wouldn’t be here to mitigate the effects of the warming trend.

      Now he’s back and going to kick Climate Changes’ ass

  25. Pope Jimbo

    Bonus Daily Ray of Sunshine*

    *Ran across the image, but couldn’t find any other references online. Maybe it is totes BS, but I like to think of it as “accurate even if it is untrue”.

    • R C Dean

      Well, victory over gravity, at least.

      • Suthenboy

        It’s a very temporary victory.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    “I feel the president should have at least [a] say in there,” Trump said in August at a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida. “I think that in my case, I made a lot of money, I was very successful, and I think I have a better instinct than, in many cases, people that would be on the Federal Reserve or the chairman.”

    If you take control of interest rates away from the Fed you won’t like what happens to them. Fuck you, cut spending.

    • Raven Nation

      Yeah. Elon’s hashtag and statements don’t mesh. End the Fed? Yeah, that would work. Allow the president to interfere. Really, really, really bad idea.

  27. Q Continuum

    How about taking this to the next level and realizing there’s no such thing as the [insert ethnic/racial/religious bloc] vote?

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/no-such-thing-as-the-latino-vote-hispanics-election-politics-cb7b7551?st=bnxy4r

    NB: I’ve been saying this specifically about the “Latino” vote for decades. Claiming that an Italian-Argentine, an Afro-Cuban and a Mestizo Mexican are all “the same” simply because they share a language is collectivist retardation at its finest. And don’t even get started on Brazil which doesn’t share said language and in reality has more in common with the US than it does with Argentina.

    • AlexinCT

      The marxists live an die by denying individualism and putting people in buckets, then setting them against each other, in order to collect their “fair share” of the limited pie. That’s not going away.

      • juris imprudent

        TBF, fascism also is collectivist, and more relevant than Marxism (old or new school).

      • AlexinCT

        I know fascism is more in vogue. That is what western governments are all about. But the fascists that would love to move on to marxists and whom accuse their enemies of being the fascists, need some of their own medicine.

    • rhywun

      “Hispanic” was only popularized in the US in order to serve as a trough to shovel money into. It doesn’t have to make sense in any other way.

      • Gustave Lytton

        “Non-Hispanic white”. It first (?) ethnic category to appease the Chicano activists.

        Totally makes sense to group Danny Trejo, Pati Jinich, and Alberto Fujimori.

    • The Last American Hero

      The African American voting block is the exception not the rule.

  28. LCDR_Fish

    Man, PONick – your weekend in dedthread sounded like a blast. Making my mouth water reading about those meals.

    Happy Armistice Day to all Vets!

    • Swiss Servator

      I was wondering if anyone was going to notice what today was. Happy 11-11 to you too, Fish!

      • AlexinCT

        And happy B-day to the Marines from yesterday, too.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Yep….we do have a few devil dogs around here IIRC. Didn’t see as many posts about them yesterday.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Influenced the Daily Ray!

    • Gender Traitor

      ::salutes::

    • Fourscore

      Too many friends and relatives lost along the way. Hope we can stop the nonsense.

      Still, enjoy the present but reflect on the past.

      Thanks to all the vets, all the Glibs.

    • SarumanTheGreat

      Yes, Happy Armistice Day!

      Although I never served, I had quite a few relatives who did; my father and his grandfather, my brother, several uncles.

    • Gustave Lytton

      That’s what my MIL called it. Her birthday as well.

      Damn Marines at least get their own day. Army has to share it with the stupid flag.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Jeez guys. Stop falling for clickbait.

    Awww, you’re no fun.

  30. Q Continuum

    Why is Team Red all of a sudden against ranked-choice voting? I know that was a hobby horse of the LP for a while, but why has it become enemy #1 for the Pachyderms?

    • Not Adahn

      I have no clue, but Drake and UCS might be informative.

    • AlexinCT

      I am against it. Team blue is too good at gaming it as we have seen w/ Alaska so far.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Because everyone, liberals and conservatives, have realized what a lump of shit idea it is.

      • Ted S.

        Why is it a lump of shit idea?

        It seems to work OK in Ireland and Australia.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        As it stands, both of those countries have fairly high levels of social trust, the US does not, and never did. And any system that replaces a tried and true method of choosing leadership, such as America used to have before all the tomfoolery, is going to further destroy trust in elections.

        Also too, the US has a long history of “one person, one vote” and this is not that, but, rather, “one person, multiple votes” in that it does not take a positive action in order to secure an elected position, but, rather, a negative that is the inverse of “none of the above” but “any of the above.”

        Or, more succinctly, “who cares?”

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hear hear. It’s another gimmick like STAR and every other system dreamed up by pie in the sky academics who are unhappy with the current results (aka losers) and imagine there’s a better system that represents the actual preferences of a voter (that aligns with what they think).

        It’s garbage just like jungle elections, top two, and open primaries.

      • Drake

        *Looks over at Ireland and Australia*

        You sure?

    • rhywun

      I was never specifically for or against it myself until I observed who’s pushing it the hardest and that it just seems like complication for complication’s sake.

    • Nephilium

      From what I can tell, it’s because the Democrats have conflated several other items (such as the CA primary system) with Ranked Choice Voting and poisoned the well against actual RCV. As I understand RCV, it includes the following:

      1) In the general election, you rank the candidates in order of preference.
      2) Count the primary selection of each vote. If someone breaks 50%+1 vote, at the end of a round, they win.
      3) If no one wins in a round, the person who came in last in vote count is eliminated, and anyone who voted for that candidate as top choice now has their second choice counted as their primary choice.
      4) Repeat until someone clears the 50%+1 vote threshold

      I do not have any issues with that system, and would prefer it.

      • Grumbletarian

        Same. The only argument against it that seems even remotely plausible is “It’s too complicated” and even that makes no sense to me. It’s no more complicated than a group of friends deciding on where to go for dinner.

      • R.J.

        I can see that. The back of my mind is still screaming “IT JUST HAS NOT BEEN DONE RIGHT” like communism. Sets off my spidey sense badly. I do not trust ranked choice voting.

      • R C Dean

        “If no one wins in a round, the person who came in last in vote count is eliminated, and anyone who voted for that candidate as top choice now has their second choice counted as their primary choice.”

        This bugs me for some reason. Why not have everyone not in the top two have their second place votes reassigned?

        I dunno. Maybe it’s my lawyer background, but the more moving parts, the more opportunity for gaming the system.

    • Dr Mossy Lawn

      The main drawback that I see is that you must centralize the ballots.. You cannot have local summary totals. Unless you use Condorcet. (and I see no support of that method).

      It essentially allows fringe wing contestants to run and not “spoil” the majority decision. with Instant runoff the spoilers are dropped, Theoretically it should always favor a “middle of the road” winner, but we have seen that it seems to oscillate between a radical candidate and the moderate in a single “party” as the candidates are still allowed to be lumped into their party, and promise to log-roll when in the senate or house.

  31. Not Adahn

    Now that OMB won almost half of them, AcademicRacismInc will need to come up with a new acronym to exclude them.

    I guess they could redefine the “I” in BIPOC to send the Mexicans into the “Asians and Jews” sub-category of White, but it would be better if they found a way to keep the Injuns so they could pretend to mean something other than “Black.”

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I would love to see Trump send in the National Guard to places like Colombia U and Berkeley, to “protect the equal education rights of White people, Asians, Jewish people, and Blacks from the rank bigotry put in place by DEI”

      Trolling, but, god would it be glorious.

  32. Gender Traitor

    <–Today's avatar is my maternal grandfather when he served in WWI. Any suggestions for a website where I might be able to confirm what rank he achieved?

    • SarumanTheGreat

      I’ve used the following for some of my own research involving high schools.

      https://www.myheritage.com/research

      It’s a Latter Day Saints site, and it may be subscription, but I’ve been able to use it.

    • AlexinCT

      Link the full picture and we can look at what’s on the sleeves or shoulders to make a call?

      • Gender Traitor

        Here you go. (On the right without a tie.) Two stripes is corporal, correct? It’s a start, but I’m not sure exactly when the photo was taken and whether he may have been promoted further.

      • AlexinCT

        Two stripes is corporal, correct?

        Correct if that is an Army uniform based on this

    • Evan from Evansville

      No idea about finding rank, other details and more. I’m sure Fish and others are on it.

      However, “I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality,” he looks fabulous. Awfully put together for a WWI soldier. He’s probably awfully young, as well. (By our count.) I presume he rocked on after 1918. Dad is incredibly upset he didn’t talk to HIS maternal grandfather, who also served in WWI. Dad was a columnist for 40+ years; he still uses that as a go-to example when he explains how/why he interviews folk.

      • Gender Traitor

        I recall that my oldest cousin on that side (now also deceased) recorded some conversations with “Geep” about his WWI service. If I had a copy, I’m afraid I’ve long since misplaced it after multiple moves. I may ask his sister and/or daughter if those tapes still exist and could be duplicated (ideally, digitized.)

    • Gustave Lytton

      GT, submit a SF180 to the National Archives

      https://www.archives.gov/research/military

      If the records are older than 62 years, it’s a public record and you don’t have to be next of kin. Note that if he served in the Army, there’s a high likelihood that his record was destroyed in the 1973 fire. However you should still submit a request and they will provide whatever information they have.

      • Gender Traitor

        Thanks!

    • Not Adahn

      There needs to be some penalty for abusing government power. I can see how a private course of action would be abused, but I’m not sure that abuse would be worse than the current state of government officials being immune.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Honestly, that is what should be at the top of the list for the incoming R gov’t; make a felony out of using the offices of gov’t to go after personal enemies.

      • AlexinCT

        Unless the people that have abused government power are made an example of, they will have no reason or motivation not to keep doing so at every opportunity they can. You can’t just tell them not to do it. You have to rub their nose in their pile of shit, then kick their ass hard so they get the message.

      • EvilSheldon

        I personally favor “…being dragged out into the streets and beaten to death,” as a penalty, but I understand that not everyone has my level of community spirit.

    • rhywun

      I’m not fully on the EXACT REVENGE train that some are

      I’m feeling it.

      You can be damn sure that if First of Her Name won, Trump would be lawfared into the poorhouse or into jail within months.

      Look what they’re doing to Giuliani, for example.

      • Nephilium

        And Alex Jones.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    No more free trade

    Nonetheless, there have been calls in Europe for the bloc to prepare retaliatory measures now, with the director of Germany’s Ifo Center for International Economics calling on Germany — which relies heavily on trade with the U.S., particularly in terms of vehicle exports — and the EU to “strengthen their position through measures of their own.”

    “These include deeper integration of the EU services market and credible retaliatory measures against the U.S.,” Ifo’s Lisandra Flach said last week. The proposed measures include the potential use of the EU’s new “Anti-Coercion Instrument” that gives the gives the region a wide range of possible countermeasures when, it says, “a country refuses to remove the coercion.”

    The countermeasures include the imposition of tariffs, restrictions on trade in services and trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights, and restrictions on access to foreign direct investment and public procurement. Germany and the EU could also strengthen cooperation with individual U.S. states, Flach suggested.

    They can offer California membership and sign a trade treaty with them.

    • rhywun

      Critics of the proposed tariffs say the policy could lead to higher prices for U.S. consumers.

      No firm opinion here but I do find it amusing that all of a sudden the left is concerned about high prices.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Well, now that they are the party of the credentialed class, they need to make sure that all their members can afford the trappings of the landed gentry they so wish to be, all the while making sure that only they are allowed this privilege.

    • SarumanTheGreat

      The EU become more self-sufficient? The horror! Maybe they’ll become more self-sufficient in defense as well.

      Which is what Orange Man Bad wants them to do.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Holy Shi-ite!

      The EU is now going to piss off the people sending them LNG (that replaces Russia’s LNG)?

      It going to be extra funny that they have to send these demands on written letters because they don’t have any electricity to send an email.

  34. Not Adahn

    Hoo boy.

    I’m going to have “Mental Health First Aid” training next week. From the course introduction/overview, it looks like as stereotypical a “empower fragility” attitude as one could come up with in aprody.

    • PieInTheSky

      I would like it if the company just bought me a bottle of expensive whisky as mental health aid

    • R.J.

      You must tell us about it later.

      • Not Adahn

        Does my camera have to be on during the training? Why can’t I join from my phone only?
        These requirements create a participatory environment that allows everyone to feel a part of a community-like
        and psychologically safe classroom. The open video accommodates a variety of learning styles and ensures
        competency, comfort, and confidence in skill application. Joining from solely a phone will limit access to features
        of the learning environment. We understand that many of us are working remotely, so we openly welcome pets
        to join!

      • EvilSheldon

        The ‘Everyone Needs Therapy’ crowd needs to be recycled for consumable protein…

      • R.J.

        Please hire somebody to be a gimp in a mask for your on-camera pet. If I was down your way I would do it.

    • Tundra

      A lot less flannel, I’m guessing?

      • Pope Jimbo

        Yeah, but it would be wall-to-wall carpet everywhere because of the lack of munching.

      • PutridMeat

        lack of munching

        Sigh. Thanks for spelling it out for this R-Tard. I read Tundra’s comment and was trying to figure out why the Netherlands would have thriving garment industry specializing in flannel.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Maybe more donkeys tilting at windmills?

  35. creech

    I see, that now the election is over, Associated Press is willing to admit “Donald Trump has said he wouldn’t be a dictator ‘except for Day 1.'”

  36. The Late P Brooks

    What the Netherlands Would Look Like Without Dikes

    Tradwives in wooden shoes, as far as the eye can see?

    • SarumanTheGreat

      I would have thought restless waters as far as the eye could see. North Sea winter storms can be fierce. The ones at the start of the Little Ice Age carved the Zuider Zee out of the coast.

      • Q Continuum

        Now *that’s* how you euphemism.

    • EvilSheldon

      Mmmmm, dirndls…

  37. PieInTheSky

    China’s Libertarian Medical City
    by Alex Tabarrok November 9, 2024 at 7:18 am in

    Economics Law Medicine Political Science

    You’ve likely heard of Prospera, the private city in Honduras established under the ZEDE (Zone for Employment and Economic Development) law, which has drawn global investment for medical innovation. The current Honduran government is trying to break its contracts and evict Prospera from Honduras. The libertarian concept of an autonomous medical hub, free to attract top talent, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, ideas, and technology from around the world is, however, gaining traction elsewhere—most notably and perhaps surprisngly in the Boao Hope Lecheng Medical Tourism Pilot Zone in Hainan, China.

    Boao Hope City is a special medical zone supported by the local and national governments. Treatments in Boao Hope City do not have to be approved by the Chinese medical authorities as Boao Hope City is following the peer approval model I have long argued for:

    Daxue: Medical institutions within the zone can import and use pharmaceuticals and medical devices already available in other countries as clinically urgent items before obtaining approval in China. This allows domestic patients to access innovative treatments without the need to travel abroad…. The medical products to be used in the pilot zone must possess a CE mark, an FDA license, or PMDA approval, which respectively indicate that they have been approved in the European Union, the US, and Japan for their safe and effective use.

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/11/chinas-libertarian-medical-city.html

    • rhywun

      Yeah, nice try. It’s a trap!

    • The Last American Hero

      I read the article. I don’t get what is particularly libertarian about letting massive regulatory systems elsewhere do all the legwork and restrictions and saying we aren’t going to add any additional layers here in the libertarian zone.

  38. Sensei

    Paywalled NYT editorial. They remain mostly clueless on why their messaging failed. Loved this bit however.

    “This failure is especially remarkable given that the Biden-Harris administration’s first years delivered significant youth-centered achievements — student debt relief, unprecedented climate investments and meaningful gun safety legislation. ”

    Seriously, other than the “free stuff” of loan forgiveness do you think that the fact everything costs a lot more didn’t play into their thinking? Other thing it noted was reproductive rights has basically played itself out.

    Democrats Could Have Won. Our Excuses Mask a Devastating Reality.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/11/opinion/kamala-harris-young-voters.html

    Otherwise it’s like 1,500 words of understanding nothing. Unreal.

    • Nephilium

      It also ignores the many youth who are not going to college specifically due to the cost and the horror stories about college debt.

    • rhywun

      “Unprecedented climate investments” tend to cause dramatic rent hikes. Young voters love that.

      reproductive rights has basically played itself out

      I sure hope so. I would really rather not hear about it ever again as opposed to making it the center of every fucking campaign going forward for the rest of my life.

      • R C Dean

        I, for one, could do without the “reproductive rights” euphemism. It’s abortion rights.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Let’s hope it does.

        Kamaloser skreed about abortion almost nonstop, while Trump just said “It’s a state issue and I will not sign a nationwide ban because it’s a state issue.”

        That’s a decent start. Sure the skree-ing from the tolerant left was outsized and annoying, but it too se4ved the purpose of clearly showing men, particular young men, which women to avoid. Now it’s even easier. A self-imposed blue tattoo? Pass!

    • Sean

      Sorry.

      *shrugs*

      I can only hope all those GOP poll watchers and lawyers are still on point.

    • creech

      There are about 100,000 provisional and overseas ballots to count yet. McCormick is ahead by 40,000. The uncounted would have to break 70-30 for Casey to eek out a victory. Don’t put it past the Dems to do it.

  39. OBJ FRANKELSON

    Well since the election have seen the left embrace since the election:

    The idea that taxation increases costs (tariffs)
    Federalism
    Election integrity
    Celibacy
    Immigration Controls (eLoN is iLLeAgAL!!1!)

    I guess if we can get OMB to support the Federal Reserve strongly, they will transform into Ron Paul.

    • The Last American Hero

      Of all the post-election hot takes, my favorite is the idea that they should have left Joe in.

      Joe is fucking senile. There is a reason Clooney and company pulled the plug after the first debate.
      All the failed policies belong to Joe and Kamala, but especially to Joe.
      Doesn’t matter who’s on top of the ticket, the voters still feel the consequences of the failed policies.
      Joe is old. Trump is old. But Joe looks Jimmy Carter old when standing next to Trump on a stage.

      • R C Dean

        The astounding thing is Bill Clinton and Trump are within a few months of the same age. Biden is “only” four years older. But four years counts for a lot more in the very young and very old.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        There’s a video floating around of the Trump team in a room replying real time to a Kamala speech. It’s almost inspiring how sharp he is in that video. He may not be right about everything, but he’s 100% cogent and quick.

    • Urthona

      I think Americans would be just fine with Biden’s age he was sharper and more energetic. I think it’s only indirectly an age thing.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Cruising de Nile in style

    A cruise line recently introduced a package for ocean enthusiasts willing to set sail for four years – days after President-elect Trump won the Nov. 5 presidential election.

    Villa Vie Residences announced its “Skip Forward” package on Nov. 7, one day after Trump was declared the winner of the 2024 presidential race.

    The Skip Forward package is part of the company’s Tour La Vie program, which starts at around $40,000 per year.

    Will there be a total news and communication blackout?

  41. The Late P Brooks

    “Although the campaign was put together before the results of the election, we feel we have a perfect product for those who said they’d leave the country if XYZ wins the election,”Petterson said.

    “We may have differing political views, but our community comes together through our passion for exploring the world in a very real way that goes far beyond politics.”

    And stay out.

    • UnCivilServant

      Burn these regs down and let darwin go to work.

      If you don’t know that churned milk contains milk, you deserve what you get.

    • R C Dean

      I could argue that butter does not contain milk, but is a product made from (a component of) milk. You don’t say that plastic contains (crude) oil, after all. Or that vodka contains potatoes.

      • UnCivilServant

        Not all vodka is made from potato.

      • R C Dean

        It’s like I wrote the comment to draw just this “well, ackchually” response.

    • Nephilium

      Fresh roasted peanuts.

      Warning: Contains peanuts.

  42. The Late P Brooks

    Because that’s what we’d do

    Olivia Troye, a former Trump administration official who denounced him in a speech at the Democratic convention in August, was boarding a plane recently when a passenger looked at her and said: “Your days are numbered.”

    Not wanting to escalate a bad situation, she said nothing, but the troubling encounter is emblematic of the hostility she’s faced as a recognizable and vocal critic of Trump. Now, with Trump returning to the White House, she is beset by newfound fears that he, his appointees or supporters could try to punish her for speaking out.

    “I’m worried that I’ll be targeted by him and a lot of people in his circle,” Troye said in an interview. “They very much know who I am. And I’m concerned for my family.”

    She has plenty of company. For some who’ve run afoul of Trump, the election results have sparked fresh worries that he may enter office looking for retribution.

    The buzzards come home to roost. None of these people should ever be taken seriously again, by anybody. And that is what terrifies them.

    • R.J.

      Useful idiot will be abandoned by the dems and shunned by the new republicans. What a shame.

      • Homple

        The sad thing about useful idiots is, that when they cease to useful, they are still idiots.

    • AlexinCT

      There is a cabal of crooks that has made bank serving the swamp, and they are worried they are now going to be forced to get honest work.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Interviews with 10 people — those who worked in the first Trump administration, lawmakers and critics, among others — reveal varying levels of distress.

    A private attorney, Mark Zaid, said he has consulted with clients about how they can best protect themselves in a second Trump administration. He said he has advised some to leave the country before Trump is sworn in and live abroad until they have a clear sense of whether he is bent on retaliation.

    “I am aware of people who have already made such plans,” Zaid said.

    Will they renounce their citizenship and become Citizens of the World?

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Larry Pfeiffer, former chief of staff at the CIA who co-signed the letter, said: “There are colleagues of mine on that list who have clearances because they’re active members of companies that do business inside the intelligence community, and they will likely lose their post-government livelihoods if their clearances are pulled.”

    “It would be, in our view, absolutely unprecedented to pull peoples’ clearances for some opinion that they espouse,” he added.

    Some opinion. Some random opinion like “We believe the Commander in chief’s policies on national defense and intelligence are wrong and should be undermined.”

    • R C Dean

      Maybe we should pause a moment on people who have “clearances because they’re active members of companies that do business inside the intelligence community”.

      • Suthenboy

        Larry said that he and his cohorts actively engaged in a conspiracy to undermine an election with lies. Their plot failed and they dont think they should be punished.
        I think I have that right.

        As for just being anti-Trump and given the sedition that took place before I would say pulling all of their clearances is appropriate. There are some that did actively engage in sedition and publicly bragged about it. There are some that engaged in treason, some related to Trump, others not. These people need to be looked at much harder.

        All of the people that claimed they want to leave the country because of OMB and the ones now haunted by their guilt….go ahead. Leave. Take of your shit with you and dont come back. Fill up some other country’s insane asylums.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        They’re not going to do that, Suthen. They’re virtue signalling, which should be soundly ignored like all the other times these idiots virtue signal about the outrage du jour.

  45. The Bearded Hobbit

    Anyone have a link to the next GlibCruise? Forum only lists the last one.

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