Okay. Here we are in continued times of weirdness. Cowboy hat wearing squirrel got o-f-t for no good reason. Trump supporters are racist, bigoted, white supremacist neo-nazis, but they are definitely NOT garbage. And anyone woman who supports Trump is obviously weak and stupid.
On the plus side, Webdom and l0b0t are continuing to grind away on their new place, and I would like to think I helped out a bit. I head home in a couple of days.
Another addition to the garbage person list: People who use floss picks in public and them throw them on the ground.
Links?
GOP wins one in Pennsylvania. Complete with a lecture for the lower court.
Interesting plot twist in Alabama hanging.
Yeah, I’m not sure this went as well as planned. I have mixed feelings over the whole issue, but it’s not my life.
A sad commentary on a once global empire.
Okay, that’s good for today. Peace out, Glibbies. Have a great evening.
On the plus side, Webdom and l0b0t are continuing to grind away on their new place,
Are they bumping away too?
/ducking
Spud said he helped out, so I figured it was either a menage a trio, or he stood by and yelled encouragement at those crazy kids.
More brain bleach, please.
As long as he is using a bull horn, I have no problem with it.
“YOU MAY APPROCH I0B0T NOW, FEMDOM!! IOBOT, ASSUME DEFENSE 42B AND A RUSHING OFFENCE!!”
IGNORE ME!
Yeah, but then l0b0t would mutter “i am the bat” while getting his tongue caught in the mouth slit.
Zwak, that’s what I was thinking, while also doing the Mashed Potato dance.
She is massively pregnant, so… unlikely.
Peanut died to save the Republic
https://x.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1852779708967997524
WTF UK? You can’t train your own pilots and you want your entire army to be just larger than the number of Soldiers on Ft Bragg? Don’t come looking to us if you want to start a war. You want to fight in Ukraine- plus up Buttercup. You are lucky about the M-man running Argentina because you ain’t taking it back again.
BTW the UK has the 2d most military power in NATO. Ponder that on the tree of woe.
We need to get out of the biz of fighting for other people’s interests.
We need to get out of the biz of fighting for other peopleâs interests.
The least we could do is get a gratuity or something out of it.
Well, no taxes on tips, no?
â2d mostâ
Take away the nukes and you misspelled Turkey. Donât worry about the Brits though, when they stupidly try to smack around the Russians theyâll get us to bail them out (which we just might do depending on what happens next week).
More than France? We’ve seen them projecting a lot more power actively in Africa the last few years.
I need to vent. I have already vented to my husband, but I’m still mad.
I accidentally updated my music player on my Android phone. Now, normally, I’m either VERY careful about not updating my player OR I can just reinstall my older-version apk with my pretty skin I bought.
HOWEVER, my earlier-version apk won’t install because it’s not compatible.
Now I’m left with the “new and improved” PowerAmp which UI is just hot garbage.
I’ve tried other player apps, but they don’t have the mix of features I like with PowerAmp.
I use MusicBee on my PC, but they don’t have an Android app.
I used to use WinAmp, but I haven’t gone back to their resurrected carcass after they died and I made the effort to change to MusicBee.
I am seriously just pissed as hell I can’t find a decent music player for my phone now that PowerAmp screwed the pooch. HOT GARBAGE, I tell you.
I don’t have good advice. I’ve grown accustomed to VLC ever since I left WinAmp years ago.
VLC is video. I find it cumbersome for just music.
I get rid of the built in video pane and set it up so that it doesn’t have any space for video unless I’m playing video when a new window opens for it.
But, I get preferences in UI and workflow. I get worked up if they move a button on me, let alone change the whole layout.
I am SO SICK of “updates” that amount to tinkering with icons. LEAVE MY SHIT ALONE!
Now I also have to update my Windows 10 because QuickAssist doesn’t work without the updates and I’m going to need it soon for my MT gig.
There are REASONS I don’t update anything. A â What I have works beautifully. B â I have worked very hard to get my shit to work beautifully. C â I have utilities I’ve ported from Windows 3.x that still work and that I love. D â Updates break my shit.
I updated WordPress once and had to rebuild my entire website.
đ€Źđ€Źđ€Źđ€Ź
I use Musicolet on my phone – I like it a lot.
No online features is the reason I checked it out. All it does is play your local music library.
Yes, that’s what I want. PowerAmp has features I like (weird nitpicky things), but their UI is making me lose my fucking mind.
PS. sorry đ
But I do get a kick out of your rants on this topic đ
I am the opposite – I always update and it almost never bothers me ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
LOL do I rant about it that often? /broken record
lol We are all broken records. No worries.
So true.
*continues listening to 1 hour squirrel dance party
How about a 10 hour hamster dance?
Listen, we all know that an update, by definition, is an upgrade. It must be better- it’s new!
Yup yup yup. đ
People who use floss picks in public and them throw them on the ground
As a conservationist (but not a neat freak, as I glance around at the debris-laden table I am typing away at) I dislike litterers in general.
Given how many trash cans there are around, why are you people using my margin!?
It is one of my biggest pet peeves. And it seems to correlate with high/low trust cultures.
This. Philadelphia was a trash city.
My friend used to pick up just discarded cigarette butts and hand them to the offender saying “You seem to have dropped this!”
Campsite-warming
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87821224358?pwd=eW55MTRDbDNtQkh2aHd3M1Nmenlzdz09
(new Zoom avatar dropping tonight!)
I hope itâs Peanut with the cowboy hat.
Love the new Glibs avatar.
Place has gone to shit. No one on?
I just jumped on. Usually we don’t see folkx until after 9pm ET
So this is why they offed Peanut!
https://x.com/Rothmus/status/1852823802171781410
TMZ interview with Peanut’s owner.
He should have said, âI have multiple cameras hidden in every room. I canât even remember where all of them are, but they are recording everything you guys are doing in there.â
âWhy do you ask? If youâre doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, right? I mean, isnât that what you guys always say?â
LOL: https://x.com/blondesnmoney/status/1852769061052060012
Nice.
For the NFL fans
I know we rag on the squirrels, but RIP Peanut.
Nuts out for Peanut
Indeed. Nuts out for Peanut.
Beautiful.
From the dedthred:
A quick update on my polls article. Using the RealClearPolitics averages for battleground states (plus a couple of others), the Electoral College votes by state and cumulative:
———RCP
———-%. Leader Trump Harris
OH 18 6.9 Trump 219 319
GA 16 2.6 Trump 235 303
AZ 11 2.3 Trump 246 292
NC 16 1.7 Trump 262 276
NV 6 1.5 Trump 268 270
PA 19 0.4 Trump 287 251
WI 10 -0.2 Harris 297 241
MI 15 -0.7 Harris 312 226
NH 4 -4.0 Harris 316 222
The formatting is a little off
Could you explain the numbers for the 3 last entries? How do Trump’s numbers go up for those 3 states?
Sorry, I was out this evening. The columns are state, electoral votes for the state, % difference between the two (Trump ahead is positive), who’s currently ahead, electoral votes for Trump, electoral votes for Harris. The way to read it is to go down all the states Trump is ahead and that row shows the EV count. Since the last 3 rows are negative (Harris ahead), he doesn’t get those votes, but it shows how many he would get if he did go ahead in WI, MI, and NH. If he lost PA, you would have to go up a row from 287 to 268.
Hi weekend crew! I comment once a year-ish. Tulpa rulez, RIP Peanut..
Question about open primaries/RCV: My state (MT) is proposing an initiative that will open up the primaries. “Top 4 primary election”, all candidates appear on one ballot and the 4 of any party that receive the most votes advance to the general. And to go along w/ that, a seperate initiative that requires a majority vote rather than just a plurality, so presumably a chance of runoffs after the general.
State Republican party is super against all this, calling it a back door to ranked choice voting, don’t California my Montana, etc.
Can anyone explain why this initiative could be good or bad?
I’m inclined to support it, as someone who generally hates parties but probably votes Libertarian or Republican most the time.
Why even is ranked choice voting not popular? I get that it hasn’t led to an explosion of 3rd party options in the states it’s been implemented, but has it been a net negative?
I have no experience with any of that but all of that stuff seems to always have the support of Dems and no one else, which tells me all I need to know about it.
On RCV, Animal and any other Alaska person can weigh in on direct experience, but I’d say for me that unless the ballots are auditable (i.e. better integrity than we have now) it’s just asking for people to not believe outcomes. RCV is complicated for voters and depending on how it’s administered could be really complicated for officials/counters, etc
However jungle primaries like Cali’s just suck. >50% win at the primary means there’s no runoff. That candidate wins outright. This majorly helps the Democrat machine, because the unions can get out the vote enough since primaries are pretty low turnout. Top two runoff is also shitty just because it’s often two Democrats, and so I have to choose between Mao and Stalin. I suppose the argument there is that if the Republican candidate didn’t win enough votes to go to run-off then he shouldn’t be on the ballot anyway. But it’s annoying to be using the GE as a Democrat primary regardless.
Oh and it definitely favors name recognition. In a closed primary, there’s a chance the voters of other ‘teams’ will see your ads and develop into your favor by the GE. in a jungle, it’s a shortened process, so it favors incumbents/war chests/names.
No. A partyâs candidate should be chosen by the the party (typically by members of the party in an election). Why the fuck should anyone who is not a member of the party have a say?
This fuckin image AI doesn’t know the difference between and human and ape face
Sounds racist.
Totally racist. JibJabâs face recognition software keeps telling me âno human face detected.â
Radicalized Squirrels In MAGA Hats Begin Uprising
When Kommiela is installed the gov’t will release another virus and confiscate everyone’s pets because they are a disease vector.
The body count (of cops) from that will be spectacular.
I told you not to fuck with the squirrels!
âLatest Trump Hoax Drops: No He Wasn’t Simulating Oral Sexâ
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/latest-trump-hoax-drops-no-he-wasnt-simulating-oral-sex
Ah, so I see theyâve moved onâŠ
Oral? It wasn’t even a jerking off motion. Besides, people claiming that were at the wrong rally.
The people who want Sexualized Drag Queen Story Time (among many other sexualized things) are complaining about *this*??
If Kamala did that, Whoopi and Joy would be orgasming on live television.
Brain bleach, stat!
Dude…
Scissor me, Whoopi!
The fuck is wrong with you?
Y’alls’ immediate and.. saucy responses reveal much about where YOUR minds were.
*Narrows gaze, backs away thru hedges from ‘scissoring Whoopi’ thoughts…*
“Election workers must manually review every ballot envelope to determine whether it has a âcorrectâ date,” the brief said…” I think the post office has had the ability to read the postmark of an envelope for at least 40 years. In fairness, the post office is known for its innovative culture and quick changing methods, and States can’t possibly keep up with a (cough cough) private company like the USPS.
I think the post office has had the ability to read the postmark of an envelope -automatically- for at least 40 years.
Nice smackdown from the court. It’s unreal that it even needs to be said.
It’s an apostrophe or a stutter.
Biden says Republicans like Trump are âthe kind of guys youâd like to smack in the ass.â
Delivery is kind of angry and violent.
Suuuuuuuper ghey!
Well…that’s like grandpa going on about the gooks and everyone tells you it’s okay…he’s old. And next day at breakfast tells you about them damn slit-eyes.
Dude sees anyone that doesn’t adore him as garbage through and through
“He’s set in his ways”
“Smack” is tough guy talk, “ass” is cursing, in Dementia Land= “I’d kick his ass”
âDetractors of the theory have cited various reasons why returning a cart is unfavorable, with concerns about leaving children unattended as one of the more commonly referenced.â
The fact that you think up excuses for not doing something that is common courtesy just moves you to a lower strata of untermencschen. You managed to haul the kids all over the damn store while pushing a full cart, but you canât manage them when pushing an empty cart to the corral?
That argument is terrible. How did you get the cart to begin with?
Every new mother knows to park as close to the cart corrals as possible.
Summary execution for shopping cart leavers.
“I’m a mom” excuse is such BS. Roughly 49% of humanity can claim that.
I bring the cart all the way back into the store.
That’s just virtue signalling.
It was all the way from his house and because a judge told him return it or go to jail.
Half vent, half plan: Surrounded by my True Blue family, I’ve a new plan of defense, hopefully revealing the insanity we’re surrounded in. I’ll openly tell them I feel like my beliefs cannot be expressed because I honestly feel I’ll be shamed, thought less of, perhaps ostracized. I’m actively being confined, forced to bite my tongue to get along, and made to Go Along Nicely with the program. Not very inclusive.
Diversity; Equity; Inclusion, yeah? The rallying cry. How about: Include diverse THOUGHTS equitably. Perhaps to ENGAGE and compromise. Ya know. Like adults should. And no one at this table has any idea what I think and believe, cuz I’ve purposefully kept quiet. For safety. Stressful.
Republicans aren’t listening to women? Aren’t hearing them voice their concerns? “Ok, I’ll ask a tricky question. Even SCOTUS Justice Jackson could answer it. Define ‘woman.’ Go forth.” Well. I’m brain damaged but they’ve known my pro-Ron Paul beliefs for 20 yrs. They won’t think The Incident ‘changed’ me. Well. Maybe they will. Fuck.
^^ Huh. Sorry. That turned into a longer vent than intended. Well. Good to get thoughts out. Toronto outplayed St. Louis hard in the 1st Period.
âmy beliefs cannot be expressed because I honestly feel Iâll be shamed, thought less of, perhaps ostracized. Iâm actively being confined, forced to bite my tongue to get along, and made to Go Along Nicely with the programâ
Welcome to the longhouse, bro.
Welcome to Massachusetts.
(This part, anyway)
I solve these issues by simply not talking about politics to anyone in real life.
Not family, not neighbors (I live in crazy far-left-town), not anybody.
Sometimes friends, but I have to be really high or drunk.
“Welcome to the longhouse, bro.”
^^ Yep. It’s a BigBig longhouse. Dumbest shit is how obviously darkly dangerous it all is. Ya know all those fuckin’ “Garbage People” ya hate? Uh. They are WAY BETTER ARMED THAN YOU. Why do you wanna box and provoke them to begin with?! DUH, ya hate the 2nd and are terrified of guns! They may be used against your plan to control the lives of 100s of millions! Your plan may slow! STALL! *GASP!*
Oh, yes. No political talk at all IRL, other than my one friend who is a registered Republican.
We were out together election night 2016 and had to be circumspect in our schadenfreude as everyone around us slowly started to lose their shit.
@Rhy: Yep. Staying quiet is wise and I’m sadly good at it. Journalist Ev gets on and keenly observes. Folk say FAR more when ya just let ’em. Give ’em more rope. Frequently gets gooooood.
I miss my Tight Knit communities. I’m an extremely expressive person, from my thoughts to my face, speech, fingers and toes. It’s tough to keep silent ALL the time. I always had an outlet or two or three. It is hard to never get to get it out.
BUT! First day at my new job is on Tues. Whole new slew of folk to learn. I hope some’ll be cool. Many places to go. Eager for busy days and $$ to sÌ”pÌ”eÌ”nÌ”dÌ” save. đ’đŠ đ đđđ« đđđđđđ« đ©đđ«đŹđšđ§ đ°đĄđđ§ đ’đŠ đđźđŹđČ.
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[Whoops Edit]: Republicans aren’t listening to women? Aren’t hearing them voice their concerns? “Ok, I’ll ask a tricky question. Even SCOTUS Justice Jackson could answer it. Define ‘woman.’ Go forth.” Well. I’m brain damaged but they’ve known my pro-Ron Paul beliefs for 20 yrs. They won’t think The Incident ‘changed’ me. Well. Maybe they will. Fuck.
Dammit. Wrote/edited in both this and another doc. Sorry for much repetition. Actually is semi-emotional to think and type about in my little covey of the house.
Quite damning. There’s a neighbor with a Trump sign, and not knowing her otherwise, Dad quite loudly expressed in the car how she couldn’t possibly have any empathy at all and blah blah pretty much is a terrible person. He puts no thought into his political beliefs like 85%+ of the population. Like all human history, politics–what leader you trust– is religious. (Until it stomps on your balls.)
Dad probably rah-rahed when Biden called them all “garbage people.” Well. He obviously thinks it. In the car we agreed that we shouldn’t speak about politics at all. I will not tell him, as there’s no point. I will tell Mom. There’s prolly zero chance I tell Bro.
What is their opinion of Ron Paul?
You could aways jus ask him: “So, then do you think I am a garbage person?”
The point being to humanize, not to make you father feel bad.
“Like all human history, politicsâwhat leader you trustâ is religious.” Not really. In this country, within my own lifetime, both sides thought the other side were normal people, just with different policy preferences. They still were neighbors and friends, would even date each other. The current level of political discourse seems extreme and unsustainable.
@Cav: They didn’t hate my decision, I suppose. If I were a Bush voter things may have been different. I told ’em I didn’t vote for Obama in -08, whom they were in love with. That was the first one I could vote in, and that felt reaaaal good as a yute. They don’t hate Ron Paul, rather they rather admire him and his thoughts… they just don’t want to see any of ’em implemented? I don’t know. They never think about spending. Or the future.
They used to be all against war. No one has verbally expressed an opinion about why they voted for Harris. “Not Trump,” equally mixed with what Dad thinks.
@Zwak: âSo, then do you think I am a garbage person?” Oooh. I COULD. That’s would be pokin’ a nest that don’t need pokin’. Mom will honestly listen, and if I bring up my fears of Harris around them both, oooh. That would be interesting. Nothing would change his mind, but I honestly would love to hear his response.
@DenverJ: “The current level of political discourse seems extreme and unsustainable.”
^^I think I’m with you. In my lifetime also, I’ve never seen anything like this. (Born in ’87.) Trump v Harris feels ‘bigger’ than I’ve ever felt. Important However: Tech has never moved information this quickly before, either. The acceleration intensifies it all to a new level. Or so it feels. *Shrug*
Youâre supposed to smile and nod. Just smile and nod.
I’m not terribly good at doing what I’m “supposed” to. If I am “supposed” to, I’m likely to NOT do it. Only changes if someone’s paying me or if it’s family.
So yep. I smile and nod away. For the most part. Mom knows I purposefully didn’t vote and a couple sentences about why. That’s it. This jittery bug gets lots of jitters out in this jittery environment. It’s a damn effective part of my ‘rigorous’ diet regimen.
If you ever find out what Iâm supposed to be doing, let me know. I still havenât figured that out.
Perfect.
Ha!
That is absolutely fantastic. Wowza.
Lol – I just said this exact thing to my wife and it’s already a meme, beautiful!
I for one welcome our new squirl overlords, and will start with the peace saying:
Nutz Out For Peanut!!!
I approve of the trend.
Today we were discussing plans for expanding the homestead next spring. We’re adding a few raised beds and some ground level crop beds, raising meat chickens and turkeys, and likely getting a beehive going.
Currently, we have more sweet potatoes than we know what to do with, and we’re still eating through our pickles. The goal is to have 10 preservable crops next year instead of 2.
We have an ample flow of eggs (averaging a dozen a day right now), but we want to start putting a dent in our meat bill.
Mashed sweet potatoes are a standard side dish in this house. So easy, so tasty.
We got a good division of labor right now with some neighbors. Though none have chickens. Must fix that.
Yammer pie. Lots of it. Sub out pumpkin for cooked/riced yams.
Fed my kids pumpkin pie for breakfast every fall for years (and they still like it). The reason I got into that was because XY loved the yammer pies at Gates BBQ, but they were pot-pie sized and expensive as hell. THEN as I was making a batch of pumpkin custard, I accidentally made twice as much custard as I meant to, sent my husband to the store for emergency pie crusts, made 8 pies, and never looked back. My pantry is always stocked with pumpkin.
Remember, the custard substrate doesn’t much matter as long as you’ve got the spices.
That is awesome. Good for you. As much as you can do it, subsistence living is a good thing.
So, some lame-ass twink decided to ambush Jason Kelce. I mean ⊠c’mon. An offensive lineman?
Icing on the cake would have been him peeling off $50 bills a la Sonny Corleone https://youtu.be/yALoRFbCHzU?si=Modmxj1MAjbPMiEp&t=24
Meh, looks like Kelce violated the NAP here, Dude was filming and talking, you don’t get to destroy someone else’s property for that.
Agreed. It was an ass move to smash that. He acts like a big baby.
Technically correct.
technically correct is the best kind of correct
I personally would prefer a societal norm where randos didnât film people they didnât know in public or elsewhere, much less verbally harass them.
If Iâm on the jury for Kelceâs NAP-violation trial, I vote Not Guilty.
Yes.
What’s the NAP for harassing people? Does NAP only apply to personal property or outright violence to one’s person?
WTF? Seriously? What happened to “be the bigger man”? Kelce acted like a fucking child here.
See, that’s the relevance of Fuck You money. Yeah, take your roid rage out on some dweeb in a parking lot, then slip him a couple thousand to get his nose fixed and a couple tens of thousands in emotional damage or whatever. Everyone wins. It’s like enforcing in hockey, only monetarily and legally and it’s not on ice and I forget where I was going with this metaphor
Meh, the NAP is, at very best, highly insufficient as an entire legal system.
He didn’t initiate, soyboy did. As soyboy would argue, words are violence. So it was self defense. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Yeah, I’m not seein’ anything defending Kelce, there. I also can’t hear/ didn’t understand what started the ruckus to begin with. The camera dude ‘said’ something? wUh? I have no idea what, tho apparently something gay may be involved.
Irritating photogs, uh. NFL folk are used to that. It would take far more to justify that $700 ‘accident.’
WHAT
IS
THIS
RUCKUS??
Could you describe the ruckus, sir?
See, when I hear ruckus I think Underworld and Bill Nighy, not Breakfast Club. Been quoting that back and forth with my brother for twenty years.
*thinks about pleather-clad Kate Bekinsale*
Beckinsale in Underworld > Jovovich in RE
Âżporque no los dos?
Y’all are makin’ me think of startin’ a ruckus in my bunk.
So Kelce is an asshole. That’s what I’m seeing in this video. What happened that this rich and famous person was justified in destroying this rando’s $1000 phone?
My point as well. He gets paid as much in a year as I get in a decade. He is paid to make his team look good on and off the field. Smashing a dudeâs phone for some perceived slight is not acceptable.
In a normal world, he would have been punched in the face for talking shit about his brother. But in 2024, trashing his phone is the lesser offense. I can’t condone it, but I can understand it.
Because you’re privileged, you should just take it?
I’m honestly shocked at the number of people I respect here defending this asshole. All he had to do was keep walking. And I don’t want to live in a “normal” world where saying “your brother is a faggot” deserves a punch in the face.
I file this under âDonât start nuthinâ, wonât be nuthinâ.â Asshole soyboy was provoking a man walking down the street minding his own business. Doesnât matter that it was a former NFL player. You provoke a man, well, donât complain when he gets provoked.
Like I said, I would prefer a societal norm where, if you story something, and you get something, well, you got what you deserved.
Having a $1000 phone is a violation of the NAP.
I have a suspicion that if this video didn’t include a famous football player(‘s brother), the pro-property destruction comments and jury nullification comments would not happen.
I can’t hear nor do I get any reference to people talking (what?) shit about Kelce’s brother. Or relationship with Swift. What was said? I have no context and have zero clue. Nothing physical? Then it better be HARSH words to justify anything. Perhaps a face-to-face turn-around mighta scared the shit outta the photog, to start. To jump to his reaction is fucked.
He’s a pro NLFer. Uh. The press and interrupting, shitty photogs is part of the grind. Yes, there are boundaries. I don’t see any being broken here.
At least in my case, MikeS, youâd be wrong.
Consider also, that there was a second asshole filming asshole number one. This was a setup from the jump. The purpose of asshole number one was to provoke a response so asshole number two could get it on video.
This assumption that you can do shit and be immune from consequence is something we would all be better off without.
Not everything is a conspiracy. There were what, a dozen or more people following him? I think he just walked out of a college football game. When do you suppose these masterminds hatched their plan to get this on video?
OK. So he crossed a line by calling his brother a faggot for dating Taylor Swift. (???) Apparently that’s a line that cannot be crossed. How about if he had just said that his brother was ugly? How about if he had said his brother was a terrible football player? Or that he cost the Chiefs their last game? Where exactly is the line that justifies a volent response to words? Because we’re apparently going to have to rewrite the NAP.
Donât know, donât care. Provoke a man, and take the consequences like a man.
Ooooh, I take much of my statement back. This wasn’t after a team practice or whatever? Um. Yeah. Then he’s just a dude. He ain’t at work. Why was there a flock of people following him? That’s… odd. Public event? One thing. Not? Whole other.
*whispers* Whoops. I thought Travis Kelce was the phone breaker. Me no follow odd-shaped-ball game.
âWhere exactly is the line that justifies a volent response to words?â
Iâm comfortable saying that itâs following a man walking down the street minding his own business, sticking a phone in his face, and insulting his family.
Naturally, the violent response isnât unlimited. If Kelce had blown his head off, that would be over the line. Busting the phone that some rando stuck in his face while insulting his brother strikes me as an acceptable response. Donât want your phone busted? Donât stick it in someoneâs face while insulting his family.
So he crossed a line by calling his brother a faggot for dating Taylor Swift
No, he crossed a line by getting in Kelco’s personal space and sticking a cell phone in Kelco’s face.
If the twink had been 30 feet away and screamed an insult at Kelco, then it would be a completely different situation.
Come on RC. You’re better than that. I missed the iron law that says I can kick your ass if I don’t like your words. Do you want a civil society or honor killings and duels on main street at high noon?
Kelce had his back to him. He was walking away and then turned and got in the “twink’s” face. Kelce coulda just keep walking.
I have a suspicion that if this video didnât include a famous football player(âs brother), the pro-property destruction comments and jury nullification comments would not happen.
Remember that dumbshit tiktoker who caught a bullet for harassing some doordash driver? Yeah, he deserved it, too.
Harass strangers, receive aggression. I’m not against that at all.
I suspect the twink was bucking for a fist so he could sue. Bigger payday. All in all, I thought Kelce’s reaction was commensurate with the offense.
MikeS, you continue to claim that Kelce âkicked his assâ. He did not.
I want a civil society that has norms like âyou donât get stick your phone a manâs face while heâs minding his own business and insulting his familyâ. Are you saying are opposed to a norm such as that?
If not, how do propose such a norm should be enforced? I say that grabbing the phone and smashing it is within bounds. Curbstomping the twink would be out of bounds, but thatâs not what happened.
I also say that a healthy civil society allows its members to take action, within reason, to enforce its norms. Do you disagree with that?
Interesting that you keep calling him a twink, too.
So, by your guys’ rules for society, you can keep calling that guy a twink right to his face, or what ever else slurs and slights you want, because he’s not strong enough to physically defend himself and make you stop. And if he were to follow within some undefined number of feet from you, or if he said something mean to you within this zone, you’d have every right to assault him, or at a minimum destroy some of his property.
I find this fascinating. Please get all the ground rules written down so we all know how to behave.
Absolutely false. I never once said that. He smashed his phone. I should smash your phone for defaming me.
No. But Kelce’s actions were not within reason. He gave no warning* of any kind that he was going to escalate. He made no verbal attempt to warn the “twink” he was about to receive his punishment.
*based on this short video
And if he were to follow within some undefined number of feet from you, or if he said something mean to you within this zone,
This is pretty close to the textbook definition of harassment. Following strangers around in close proximity, refusing to allow them to disengage, and yelling offensive things at them is harassing behavior.*
*i watched the video without audio, so I have no clue what he said or any of the actual context that wasn’t shown in the short video clip… I’m just sick of the pedantatarian idea that you can just keep swinging your arm an inch in front of my nose and I can’t do anything about it until you touch me.
Lotta people keep claiming the “twink” shoved his phone in Jason’s face. No, Jason turned around and put his face in front of the phone. Then smashed it. Then STOLE it.
What this whole kerfuffle, both here and there, comes done to is; what is the NAP, and when is it violated? I would posit that following someone with a camera while insulting their family in an attempt to catch them out is, in fact, a violation of the NAP. So, responding with destroying the camera/phone is within bounds. It seems that you don’t think this is a violation, so it is OOB to you.
And therein lies the rub.
Pretty close. Except for the important part about needing to be regular or repeated over a period of time. Right?
This isn’t one guy following Kelce for blocks and badgering him and “sticking his phone in his face”. The “twink” is one guy in a seemingly large group of people who all just left a venue.
regular or repeated over a period of time. Right?
No. You’re thinking of stalking. Harassment, as far as I know, doesn’t require a particular duration. Regardless of the legal definition, following somebody around for the purpose of annoying them and catching their reaction on video fits into the colloquial definition of harassment.
I think it probably is a minor violation. But I feel that Kelce’s reaction was disproportionate to the violation. Kelce escalated too quickly by skipping over verbal warnings/threats and went straight to property destruction and theft.
From my work HR training (groan) and this random internet legal dictionary, I believe it does.
Now, the “regular and repeated” threshold would be met (IMO) if he followed him for blocks and blocks and ignored requests to stop. But from the short video we’ve seen, that is not the case.
“continued or regular”
Him following the football guy down the street is “continued”. If he had just screamed some epithet and walked the other direction, it wouldn’t be harassment.
The assumption I’m making is that this video was edited to hide some immediate prior comments by phone boy (this is common in such staged altercations). I don’t imagine that football guy would be slamming the phone on the ground after a single comment.
I can imagine big manly football guy doing just that over one comment.
However, my entire argument, and presumably those arguing against me, is based entirely on this short video. If there is any evidence to back up your assumption (and I wouldn’t be shocked if you’re right), I reserve the right to change my opinion.
Dude was following him for half a block in close range shouting, “How do you feel about your faggot brother dating Taylor Swift?” over and over again.
@Moj’: I suppose he had a pitbull with him, too.
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Wow.
Okay.
Moj’, it was a joke.
Love ya’
If itâs not worth saying, itâs worth not saying.
I’ll say it.
If you get within arms reach of a stranger, stick a phone in the strangers face, and then insult the stranger (or the stranger’s family) then you have violated the NAP.
It doesn’t justify great bodily injured, but a knuckle sandwich in the face is not out of line.
You can’t start a fight, but you can’t provoke a fight either.
Preach it, kinnath.
Hereâs the thing about civil society – that means a sector of society that isnât under the governmentâs thumb. It doesnât mean everyone has to drink tea with their pinky thusly and make snide comments in an Oxbridge accent. Civil society can easily encompass, and may even need, the occasional robust enforcement of norms via a busted phone or even a knuckle sandwich. You rule those out of bounds, but if so you are expanding the zone where only the government can enforce (and thus define) norms.
I’m happy with this, as long as it’s a social construct, not a legal framework.
Which means it instantly falls apart when you start to involved lawyers.
“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.”
“Civil” society does not mean punching anyone who slights you.
Kelce didnât punch anybody.
It’s not the insult. It’s violating someone’s personal space.
They’re not crammed into a subway shoulder to shoulder. They’re out on a public sidewalk with lots of room for everyone. The twink had not business getting into Kelco’s space and shoving a cell phone in his face.
Once again why Fuck You money should be the defining rule. You want to take a swing at someone? Can you afford it?
And a civil society that canât enforce its own norms (within reason) without calling in the state isnât a civil society any more. Itâs a subsidiary of the state.
Kelce didnât take a swing at anybody.
I was thinking of the douchebag who accosted Mike Tyson of all people on a plane, and took one to the chin for his troubles. Attention seeking asshole? I have no idea. Did Tyson end up paying out for it? Maybe! That’s between him and his lawyers. But I think this sort of thing is much better served as a civil complaint, and if you want to wreck some douchebro’s cellphone, well, if you can afford it, why not?
Dirty little secret of civil complaints: Poor people are judgment proof, and thus effectively immune from them.
Nobody’s suing the idiot who gets punched. But to get to punch an idiot with a phone he shoves in your face, and the consequence is some fraction of your income goes to pay off his lawsuit, well, that seems like a fair bargain.
That’s not Travis, that’s his brother? (Whom I don’t know. ) That many people filming and surrounding a non-player in a non-public/ game event is puking over the line. Let alone putting shit in a non public figure’s face, they’re intimidating and inciting a fight by surrounding and following him. Remarkably behaved of him if NOW I get the context, which I still admit: I do not know.
Hrm. Seems we have an Iron Rule for that. We have it for a reason and I’m likely sill completely wrong cuz I don’t know the full deal, and never will cuz I wasn’t there.
Evan, Jason, Travis’ brother, is also (was?) a player. He’s semi-famous in his own right.
Poor people are judgment proof, and thus effectively immune from them.
Per Mark Geragos: “an empty bag”
Jason Kelce, retired center for the Philadelphia Eagles.
lol J.K. Rowling liked one of my twitter replies.
Completely meaningless but a little bit surreal when my nothingburger account rubs shoulders with famous people. I just use it to talk trash with other political brainworms twitter addicts.
Link!
Likes are private now on Twitter, but here’s a screenshot from my notifications.
Like I said, trash talk. But on the trans issue I very much agree with her sentiments.
Damn. I’d wanna put that on my fucking resume. *Doffs cap* to both sentiment and the silly- but-meaningful Upper Crust nudge.
Today has been a banner day for memes.
A little levity before what I’m sure will be an absolute shitshow of a week. For once I’m glad I’m so busy at work. Speaking of which… google finally did a driveby of our biggest project! The marked data center is mostly finished, and the one on the corner visible in street view is currently being erected. We’ve got two other similarly sized campuses under contract and more being promised as quickly as we can design.
Haitians are going after the squirrels now.
(and the AI messed up the squirrel tail)
Thatâs a huge erection!
And they was right!
Some Virginia girls endorse Trump on stage:
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1852833869310927258
Sorry if this has been posted already, but here is Bill Clinton saying that Hamas didnât care about a Palestinian stateâthat they just wanted to kill Israelis:
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1852116637752705343
I hadn’t seen that. That is glorious. Bill holding forth and speaking truth.
Ooooh, that’s gold. The anti-war thing is the only thing I have made loudly known. How the fuck can acolytes keep the cognitive dissonance under control, until I remember… ‘[the vast majority of] folk don’t think about it. It’s more religion than reason.’
“And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians. They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable.
Well, I got news for them, they were there first before their faith existed.” ~ Bill Clinton
Say what you like about the Muslims, at least they’re willing to die for their faith. Lefties in the West are happy watching them die by the thousands and then taking to social media to spit venom at any Jew who pops his or her head over the parapet while pretending it’s just about Israel and Zionism. In that respect alone, I have less contempt for Hamas than I do their ideological allies in Europe and especially the US.
The women’s volleyball coach from SJSU who filed the Title IX complaint against having the dude on her women’s team got suspended.
I guess SJSU isn’t concerned about losing $$$ from alumni and other donors (because they’re an SU?)
Plenty of money in the State coffers. And it’s Silicon Valley.
And Newsom just made it a crime to ask for voter id.
That’s just bananas. So corrupt how can anyone even with that? They are just so smug they know they will get away with it I guess.
Wtaf. I realize there’s not any sort of whistleblower protection in play here, but that seems terribly unethical for the university. They’re (I’m assuming) respondents to the complaint, and suspending her looks like retaliation.
Good on her for standing up for her players.
âI realize thereâs not any sort of whistleblower protection in play hereâ
Why woudnât there be?
I have no idea but I expect because she’s objecting to written, published policy, not something done sub rosa, that this isn’t a whistleblower complaint.
Whistleblower protection absolutely extends to protesting written, published policies.
If she can get a payout from her stupid, stupid university, funnel that money baby.
I’m reading a book where the characters in Manhattan keep saying ‘upstate’ when talking about places on Long Island.
IT’S DUE EAST OF MANHATTAN
‘Upstate’ NY is north of Westchester county, at a minimum.
Long Island locations are ‘on the island’ or ‘out east’ if you’re talking about way out there, like the Hamptons.
It’s bumping me every time and annoying enough that I’m going to email the author.
Also, a plot point involves Manhattan cocktails and “vermouth is bitter”. NO. Sweet vermouth, as used in Manhattans, is very much not bitter. Manhattans have some bitterness due to the 3rd ingredient, the _bitters_.
Both errors feel a bit lazy.
Utah-based author may not know New York geography or colloquial directions, and maybe {{{he}}}? doesn’t know cocktails, but in that case expand your beta reader pool.
/rant off
This is why I have a hard time watching and reading a lot of stuff. Once you spot something like this, it is hard not to keep noticing little errors. Breaking Bad? Yeah, what pubsec teacher doesn’t have iron clad insurance? Had to stop watching at that point. A bunch of other ones too, same problem. Getting guns or vehicles wrong, etc. But, oddly, some authors don’t bother me with this. Silencer on a revolver? Sure, why not, because the story is too good, and you know they don’t care. And maybe that is the difference; that if I like the story, I can live in the authors version of the world, and not worry about it. While if I don’t like it, I am much less tolerant of it.
But, I am perversely happy when I come across a small detail that is immaterial to the story, but the author gets right.
“School teacher turns to crime due to lack of health insurance” _is_ ridiculous.
Still love the show.
How about school teacher turns to crime because low pay? Teacher, like Vegans and Canadians are going to tell you before you ask.
Oh, a really minor geography thing – “the coast of Long Island”. Sure, it’s an island so it has a coast but it’s so narrow people only refer to “the north shore” or “the south shore”.
Yeah, as a geography nerd both of those things would irritate the shit out of me.
It’s not that hard to get basic stuff like that right.
No one cares about BosWash.
/runs away from Acela-Glibs
I strongly approve of and with your rant. That’s damn sloppy. I was thinking it MIGHT be a Euro writing, and then. Well. Utah is like half a Euro on the weird scale.
I kid. However, not now: The Utah Hockey Club. What the fuckity fuckfuck is that. No one could come up with a ‘compromise-for -now name’ with the owners/funders? Hrm.
The Utah Redskins, I hope.
Utah Polygamists.
(isn’t polygamy like hip and with it now?)
Utah Redskins would be đ„đ„đ„
They’d sell a million jerseys.
Burn After Reading remains one of the most amazing films I’ve seen.
Brad Pitt’s dumb, dumb smile lives in my head
Tilda Swinton as the least likeable character ever depicted on celluloid and yet I can’t help but identify
Malkovich with the hatchet is perfect.
And John Malkovich
He’s my heart and soul, you understand. Puffed up by his job, but ultimately a loser. A drunkard. A complete turd. And finally, mercifully, destroyed.
Christ you really are the brain scientist
It’s less bleak than In The Loop.
Tilda as the White Witch in Lion, Witch, Wardrobe was fabulous. Also, the prettiest I’ve seen her. She has an odd charisma.
I book marked that movie. Last Brad Pitt movie I saw was Bullet Train, which was fun.
“And what did we learn here?”
“I, I don’t know…”
(also, I aways kinda had the hots for tilda)
When they reveal the project Cloony has been working on in his basement… Hoo Boy!
FUCK, I had forgotten that film and its glorious wit and flow. (I also forgot the time.)
*puff-puff on vape, pass to scrotester* (pipe is in the garage. not goin’ down there.)
MOJ JUST WATCH IT AND DON’T LOOK IT UP.
Because of Clooney’s Roadmaster Estate?
Garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83o1eAS7eiY
https://archive.is/jYEH8/911af67eead06f6c95a49b941e9b5c6f83784509.jpg
NSFW.
https://archive.is/Gbg03/a35906deb4c8cc51f4e4361ee68828af20be4fce.jpg
NSFW.
https://archive.is/pVTHW/39bab9a9e4158634e199552bb10799a6d456c8ad.jpg
NSFW.
https://archive.is/7Bcnr/97777b9efc9a2ab339b86ece30a4be520166d659.jpg
NSFW.
https://archive.is/Nba1y/bc7a60ca5cb061ab99d467a02c6f246cf996abc9.jpg
NSFW.
Nature is a merciless Old Testament bitch meting out brutal judgement upon pretenders and nebbishes disconnected from reality.
We must fear and love her (and yes she is Chthonic female to the core) in equal measure. She is the only thing redeeming us, yet she is horrifying and to be avoided and subverted. Thus we live in some awful liminal space that can’t be reconciled. I see it every time I’m in the Far North. The wilderness is a siren song in which I know contentment lies, however it will surely kill me; so I slink back to central heating and wifi.
Pathetic.
I forgot you’re Jewish.
What, dare I ask, affliction do you have planned for our Hamas brothers?
The IDF seems to be carrying out G-d’s plan quite well.
Inshallah.
Another song that slaps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaKo8TB8o1s
Because I’m on a rare drunken posting spree in NWT.
Why _does_ one travel to Yellowknife, anyway?
Strikes me as the sort of place one might be from, but not a place one goes.
See the Canadian Shield, eat poutine, hopefully see the Aurora.
Enjoy the Far North.
4/5ths into a bottle of Tito’s and I can fairly say I might have a drinking problem.
The problem is I don’t get as drunk as I want anymore.
You’ve admitted to yourself that things aren’t right. That’s the big first step. You’ll get nothing but support here. You’re amongst friends. How can we help you?
I have no bone of contention in my body. I would never harm anyone.
I don’t have a woman in my life and I have no children.
The drinking I do is for me alone, and I like it.
I’m harming no one but me, and I could give a piss about me.
But we like you. And don’t want to see you drink yourself to death for no reason.
Not trying to push anything. Just want you to know there are random internet strangers who care about you.
“But we like you. And donât want to see you drink yourself to death for no reason.”
This is true.
Been down that road.
Learning to like ones self is the hard part.
Only good things happened after I made certain changes. That was 40 years ago.
Tolerance is a hell of a drug*. Can go the other way to regain magic.
*autocorrect changed this to drunk, which is a bit too on the nose
It’s 2024 and being called gay is still an insult. đ€Ą đż
It is?
I am the straightest straight guy that ever drew breath yet not everyone in the world thinks I am the bee’s knees. I dont care.
I’ve been called Asshole so many times it sort of rolls off.
Is it an insult if it is true?
5/5 LET’S FUCKING ARRIVE
Watching Fetterman on JRE. It’s RFK Jr level painful. I’d still toss him out of the Senate, but there are lot more dumber and more evil.
Defending not requiring voter ID with the same canards. Don’t investigate none, don’t have none. Sure, Lump.
I don’t think the drunk kids streaming out of the bars now realize that they have another hour until it’s 1am again.
Kids are lame these days.
It just dawned on me that I have an extra hour to smoke an extra cigar and post extra shit that’ll irritate some people.
I feel the need to do this. And no, it’s not for virtue signaling. I just want to semi-publicly declare that I’m a Zionist. And I don’t really give a fuck who that might offend.
This is literally the most banal/in-group thing to announce here.
Cmon MikeS, get with the pogrom.
I’m calling it – last! At least until the a.m. crew shows.
Sean’s very late.
I’m on weekend schedule.
Mornin
Good morning!
Not much to add. I like rodents in general. Which doesn’t mean I won’t kill the fuck out of them if they decide to colonize areas I have claimed for my own personal use. Fortunately, none of those that live in my woods have decided to move in. I assume the house was well built.
Good morning, NA, Teh Hype, Suthen, and ZWAK!
God do I hate this day. Screws up my sleep for at least a week.
I have two atomic clocks – an analog wall clock and my digital alarm clock. Neither of them has yet reset themselves to the new time, apparently because they haven’t yet been able to connect to “the Mothership” in CO. Last spring, I believe it took setting the wall clock on the sill of the kitchen window that faces NW to get it done. I’ve set my alarm clock on the bedroom window sill (which faces SE,) and I think that usually works, but not necessarily the first night. Tomorrow I may have to rely on my cell phone’s alarm (which I guess is what the kids do these days anyway.)
Happy Sunday, Glibs!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouW_RCAI0sg
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It’s National Sandwich Day. Ladies, it’s your time to shine.
*ducks*
Oh no, another Peanut Butter day but alas, poor Peanut has departed.
/looks out the window, sees more Peanut replacements
One of the police officers felt so guilty about killing Peanut, and returned to the owners and offered to replace the squirrel.
The owners said, âFine, but can you crack walnuts with your teeth?â
Do you want your grilled cheese sammich sliced vertically, horizontally, or diagonally?
I want a Möbius strip-shaped grilled cheese, cut off-center.
Vertically, of course!
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https://carbonaut.co/product/loaves/
Grilled cheese is back on the menu, since we’ve found this bread.
Diagonal.. Better for dipping in a tomato based soup.
Been reading the âdiesel punkâ entry at tvtropes, which lead to the âtwo-fisted talesâ entry, which lead to the âDoc Savageâ entry.
I checked to see if there were any Doc Savage stories on LibriVox. There are not.
So, I may be back to listening to Frankenstein by M. Shelley, but I am unable to give it my full attention while I work, and I seem to have missed something. The main narrator at this point is not Frankenstein. Frankenstein, I think, is one of the main narratorâs professors, but I only heard the name mentioned once.
Having not ever read the novel before, at this time Inguess that the narrator will assist Frankie in making the monster, or the narrator gets adopted by Frankenstein, because I am pretty sure that the monster seen driving a carriage across the icy, Arctic plain at the beginning of the book seems to be the responsibility of the narrator.
But, I may be misinterpreting or may have missed some key details.
https://nypost.com/2024/11/02/us-news/new-york-republicans-coming-out-to-vote-early-in-record-numbers/
I want to believe.
The 2020 voter fraud has made everything uncertain.
Here is former prisoner Steve Bannon, on 2020:
https://x.com/Bannons_WarRoom/status/1852867994243772804
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6364130045112
“NY Gov. Kathy Hocul: If you vote GOP, you’re ‘anti-woman’ and ‘anti-American'”
Laughable.
The district I’m in has a TEAM BLUE man claiming that his TEAM RED female opponent is anti-woman because she doesn’t consequence-free sex and murdering the resulting oopsies.
âWomen have the right to control their own bodies!!â
Well, why donât they, then?
Ugh, I woke up sick, the 3 year old woke up sick, the wife is out running a relay marathon, and I have speaking responsibilities at church in 2 hours. This is gonna be a shitshow.
Hook me up with Zoom and I’ll speak at your church. I’m sure they’ll be talking about it for years to come.
I was looking up living centenarians of note yesterday, and came across this article that I thought might be of interest to you.
I was lucky enough to see him a few times in the ’70s. He name-checks Roy Haynes, who SP and I saw a few years back and the guy was kicking ass at almost 90.
Hope you and the kiddo feel better ASAP! Is the church speaking anything you can delegate to another?
Probably, but not to OMWC. đ€Ł I like them too much for that.
The problem is that it’s supposed to be prepared remarks, and I’m prepared but nobody else is. They’d be winging it, which I don’t want to do to them.
Just ver what Old Man is going to talk about, beforehand. Itâll be fine.
To be fair having a (((homily))) at a church might be an issue, too.
I started thinking about the local mall, and the empty section that used to be Sears.
It might make a really good place to install a laser tag, I thought.
Then, I thought further, and wondered if it would be possible, instead of making a normal, PvP laser tag, if the place could be set up as a âsurvival horrorâ laser tag.
Imagine this: the setting is a spaceship crashed on an alien world.
There are three phases, each listing a set amount of time:
Phase one: everyone shoots at approaching space alien monsters that are approaching the ship.
Phase two: the lights go out, and animatronic aliens are bursting through walls and stuff
Phase three: everyone has to make it to the airlock to board the rescue craft that just arrived.
Everyoneâs blaster has a limited amount of shotsâsay, fifty. There are recharge points around the ship. If an alien âtagsâ someone, he loses 5 shots. Getting within three feet of an alien means one is tagged.
âApproaching monsters approach, approachinglyâ.
Maybe, to shake things up, anyone âtaggedâ to zero shots by an alien becomes an âalien allyâ, and can only score points by laser tagging the other players.
suh’ fam
yo whats goody yo
TALL SABBATH CANS!
This Peanut story sounds worse than it initially did. Also, they found the snotnoggin who called the police:
https://x.com/Tala_NoExcuses/status/1852818129292058646
I agree with AC that Peanutâs owners had gotten popular on the Internets, and so Cabal had them shut down.
Also, the police investigating the house for five hours while the owners had to sit outside and were denied legal counsel, plus the police asking if they had cameras installed, pretty much confirms for me that the police installed all sorts of spyware (bugs, hidden cameras, etc.) in their house.
A picture of the woman who bragged on her now-deleted Facebook account that she is the one who called the cops on a squirrel:
https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/1852856387048481127