Saturday evening Links

by | Nov 16, 2024 | Daily Links | 151 comments

That’s what I’m talkin’ about.

I wear a hat. I have forehead acreage and it’s important to protect the north 40. Cooler weather brings out the Stetson fedora. The original feathers were starting to look a little ratty, so I found replacements online. The one above is my current favorite.

Links?

The amount of pants shitting that’s been going on all week because of Trump’s nominees is like a soliloquy to my ears. Because it’s all coming from the people I want to shit their pants.

I don’t have Netflix, so I relied on commentary from a couple of people that do. Netflix did not account well for itself. And the commentary I listened to on YouTube was probably better than actually watching the fight.

She’s already filed for 2026.

I don’t think they understand that the rest of us are okay with this.

Being a current victim of this phenomena, an explanation. You find a bucolic, lovely setting away from the hustle and bustle. And then you tear it up, cover it with houses, apartments and big box stores, so that it looks just like the ‘burbs you just left. And then you call it a liberating move. I used to live on the edge of town by fields of food. Now I’m right in the middle of SoCal North. No, I’m not bitter at all.

Absolute bullshit once again perpetrated by local governments. I’ve never had a DUI, but a couple of people I know have relayed the process. The interlock device is another third party grift, right up there with red light cameras.

Texas appears to have an influx of Haitians.

Okay folks, that’s it for me. Peace out Glibbies, enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Spudalicious

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151 Comments

  1. Aloysious

    Evening? Already?

    Where has the time gone.

    I will now read the lynx of potato. I’m in the mood for a nice blend of fingerlings. With garlic.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Are they lynx, or are they just the random tots of an old spud?

      • Aloysious

        Eye am not sure, even now.

  2. Aloysious

    Nice hat.

    • Spudalicious

      Thanks! Almost time for kickoff.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        I too like it. I have more of a monks tonsure gone wild, and so wear a pork pie much of the year. But now I move to a beanie.

  3. Yusef drives a Kia

    Hello, I’m exiled in OKC for the rest of the month. Doing a clean out and renovation thing, it’s tough on the family but the lady abides.

  4. Aloysious

    Speaking of pants shitting, I know a family that is three generations of Democrat. They have all lost their minds, except for the two 18 y/o girls, who look at the older folks and flat out call them nuts.

    I’m hoping for budding libertarian types. We’ll see.

    • Sean

      Twins?

      • Aloysious

        Yes.

        I try to be on my best behavior, in spite of being old and crazy.

      • Tres Cool

        Pics or it never happened.

  5. Yusef drives a Kia

    I wake in my own house,
    It’s 4 in the morning,
    Hanging out with the boys,
    I creep in my bedroom,
    And slip into bed,
    Cause I know If I wake her,
    I’ll wake up,
    Dead

  6. Gender Traitor

    I’m feeling even further affirmed in my 41-year “boycott” of commercial air travel.

  7. rhywun

    I keep hearing about Putin’s words coming out of Tulsi’s mouth except… no examples are ever provided. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • Grumbletarian

      To utter them is to commit treason. We’ll just have to trust them.

    • Suthenboy

      Same old shit: Russia and sexual allegations. No details provided or needed. It is their go-to hit. Well, we did get piss hookers, there was that detail.

    • juris imprudent

      Which makes AOC’s claim way out of step? Did she not get the memo, or is there a new narrative forthcoming?

  8. rhywun

    And now, in the wake of Donald Trump’s reelection, 4B is going viral on U.S. social media

    Because Donald Trump is responsible for untold numbers of brutal murders of women. Or something.

    • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

      That’s at least two cases of it! (Okay, totally fabricated ones, but still! It could happen to anyone)

    • Suthenboy

      I thought it was JFK jr. and he was killing babies? I cant keep up.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    She does not want to date. She feels no need to get married. Her ideal life is to form a tight-knit community with other single women. “It’s not just me,” she says. “All my friends rarely date these days for that reason. These issues are all we talk about when we get together.

    [insert exclamation of disbelief]

    • juris imprudent

      Well, at least one NPR lady is not part of the gossip group.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      Did someone say feedback loop?

      Turn the gain down, bitches, or you’ll spiral out of control.

  10. rhywun

    it looks just like the ‘burbs you just left

    Seems inevitable unless one chooses a state that not everyone else is moving to.

    • Fourscore

      There’s a reason people are leaving some states and head for others.

      OTOH an hour and a half commute is not worth it. Time lost can’t be recovered. I sometimes drove a long way to work, I worked in different places on a daily basis but if it was an hour and a half I got a motel room and stayed 2-3-4 days ’til the job was done. Company picked up my tab and I had a company car.

      • Tres Cool

        Likewise. I commute 3 hours one way each week to our office.
        Regardless if I have a project to bill it to, or Im just administrative all week, they cover my mileage, hotel, and per diem.

    • trshmnstr

      *waves hi from small town southwest missouri*

    • Nephilium

      I take some pleasure in knowing that “Ohio” is now slang for uncool to the yutes.

      • The Hyperbole

        I’m so Ohio I didn’t even know that was a thing.

      • rhywun

        “Upstate New York” would like a word.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Blah blah blah exurbs!

    I blame Henry Ford.

  12. Shpip

    My cousin and her friends are not alone. Across Korea, young women are swearing off men, influenced by the 4B movement, a radical feminist campaign that originated in Korea in the late 2010s. The four Bs stand for bi-hon (no marriage), bi-yeonae (no dating), bi-chulsan (no birthing) and bi-sex (no sex).

    If your average American thot had that sort of foresight and discipline, abortion would be her number one issue.

    • Shpip

      er, wouldn’t be her number one issue.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      Exactly what you meant to say!

      The reason why they want unfettered abortion is because they want to have unfettered sex. Whether that’s with 1 partner, occasional partners, or full on “a dick in each hole and 1 in each hand” on a nightly basis changes from individual to individual, but they all want no consequences for sex.

      • rhywun

        The reason why they want unfettered abortion is because they want to have unfettered sex.

        It’s remarkable that nobody is allowed to point this out in polite company.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hedonistic society is fun!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Paradises

    Greenville, located at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains in the northwest part of the Palmetto State, was just named the fourth best city to live in the country, after Naples, Florida; Boise, Idaho; and Colorado Springs, Colorado by U.S. News.

    The website pointed out that the city, which has over 72,000 residents, has transformed “from a blip on the national map to a bustling metropolis” thanks to an influx of manufacturing jobs.

    No thanks.

    • Spudalicious

      yay progress…

      • Sensei

        I’ve just moved here from CA and have some enlightened suggestions for everyone…

      • Spudalicious

        Grrrrrr…

      • Ted S.

        I don’t see why you hate his suggestion that potatoes shouldn’t set themselves on fire….

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        What’s with all the ugly plants? Should probably just bulldoze those. Also, you need a few more bike lanes and some ‘traffic calming’ measures.

      • Nephilium

        Sensei:

        Don’t make me post the “Cleveland doesn’t need your love, it needs your fire” article from a transplant who was so befuddled that we didn’t immediately understand that her ways were better that she had a breakdown.

    • slumbrew

      the fourth best city to live in the country, after Naples, Florida

      Friends have a place in Naples. I have never seen so many Bentleys on the road as in Naples.

      “Affordability” can’t be part of the criteria.

      • Spudalicious

        I just saw a Bentley here and parked next to a Lambo last week.

      • Nephilium

        Spudalicious:

        I never knew what the Bentley logo was until I was chatting with a girl at work (several jobs back) and mentioned I had gotten a new car. She saw the Mini logo and thought it was a Bentley. After looking up the cost of a Bentley, I had to wonder how much she thought us IT people made.

      • slumbrew

        It’s just wild how many there are on the road down there.

        Sitting outside at Jane’s on a Thursday you can watch the parade of private jets arriving for the weekend.

        Our friends describe Miami as “drug dealers, rap artists annd pro athletes”, so Lamborghinis and the like but Naples is “retired C-suite types” so Bentleys.

      • rhywun

        I had to look up “Naples”. Honestly, not on my top 500 or so list for “places to retire”. I don’t see anything that looks appealing there unless it’s “being surrounded by other people with money”.

        Amusingly, it is just south of where my grandma retired and where my mom almost moved us in HS.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Naples is stuffy. Has been a retirement haven for many decades. My maternal grandparents lived there starting in the early 70s. Lots of money there.

        Fort Myers, about 25m north, is much less stuffy.

      • rhywun

        Yah, I almost moved to Ft. Myers.

        Grandma retired to Punta Gorda with her new husband. (Her fourth, IIRC.) She hated it there.

      • slumbrew

        My Naples visits only started a few years ago but I don’t find it all that stuffy. The restaurants and bars are lively, the beach at our friends’ place have staff driving quads selling drinks, lots of active stuff to do outside, etc.

        My impression is that there’s been a bit of a “youth” influx due to the COVID-driven migration (youth being late 40s/50s vs 70+).

      • Brochettaward

        I lived in Naples, It’s great if you’re old and wealthy. It sucks if you are young and middle class.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Perhaps it’s changed. My grandparents died 20 years ago. I’ve been through a couple of times, but haven’t stayed in a very long time. I was there once or twice a month growing up in Miami. Was mostly old retirees in their 60s/70s driving Cadillacs.

      • slumbrew

        It’s great if you’re old and wealthy. It sucks if you are young and middle class.

        That, I believe.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    Nonpartisan saviors of Democrat-ocracy

    Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) and Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) announced on Wednesday a nonpartisan state-level initiative to foster collaboration with fellow governors to protect against threats to democracy and strengthen government institutions.

    The nonpartisan coalition of governors, Governors Safeguarding Democracy (GSD), will “leverage the collective strength, experience, and institutional knowledge in governors’ offices across the country to craft laws and policies that protect the rule of law and serve the people of our great states,” according to the group’s website.

    ——-

    The announcement did not mention any politician or political group by name but said the launch comes “as the nation faces increasing threats against American democracy – including the dangers of authoritarianism and the undermining of democratic institutions.”

    The governors nodded to the timing of the launch in statements included in the press release.

    “In this moment, protecting democracy has never been more relevant or important, and doing so demands strong leadership at the state level,” Polis said. “Governors Safeguarding Democracy shows our shared dedication to defending the democratic principles upon which our country is built.”

    They will resist He Who Must Not Be Named to the very last drop of blood. Democracy has been usurped by people voting for the wrong man.

    • Spudalicious

      If we didn’t have the 17th amendment, this wouldn’t be necessary for either side.

    • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

      I was wondering why they bothered with the fig leaf of it being ‘nonpartisan’ then I realized they are going to waste taxpayer dollars on this garbage.

    • rhywun

      Stunning and brave.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      They’re not going to abandon the charade, are they?

      This would all be so comical if it weren’t so sad. Did they all just up and forget that a massive victory for Trump, awarded by the people, just happened? That democracy just happened. And yet they continue to posture at the alter of THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

      I’m just glad that it’s clear most people were able to cut through the extremely thick layers of bullshit and are fucking tired of it.

      • rhywun

        It’s why they’re desperate to pin Donald’s victory on Putin.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Pritzker said: “At this critical moment in our history, we must unite to protect the foundations of our democracy and ensure our institutions withstand threats and persevere in their mission to improve the lives of our people.”

    Good lord, what a fetid soup of substanceless blather.

  16. Sean

    That interlock story is rage bait.

    • slumbrew

      Yes. Yes it is.

      Might be a good IJ case, given they’re being punished prior to a conviction.

      • MikeS

        I am no expert, but I assume this is the situation in all/most states:

        When you get a DUI you have a criminal court proceeding and a separate administrative court proceeding. It’s possible to be found criminally innocent, but to still be found guilty in administrative court and lose you license. Or to be found guilty in administrative court before your criminal proceedings have concluded. The outcome of one has no bearing on the other.

        How double jeopardy does not apply to DUI’s is a mystery to me. I guess it’s FYTW and MUH ROADZ!

    • Brochettaward

      As someone with DUI, the interlock device is most definitely a racket. The thing is also a piece of garbage that barely works. I shattered one in a fit of rage because it wouldn’t let me start my car, then drove up in a different car and got a new one. Had “insurance’ on the thing.

      I’m sure the people providing that wonderful service are well connected.

      • pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        My high school hero (Man, I looked up to this guy!) drove his Ford Mustang through somebody’s bedroom while drunk. He wasn’t wearing his seat belt. He flew through the windshield and broke his neck against the opposite wall. Luckily the couple weren’t hurt at all. His father (a prominent banker) was devastated at losing his only son.

        THAT left a lasting impression on me. I like to drink, but I usually only do it at home, when I don’t need to drive.

        On the Minnesoda Iron Range, near to where I live, most people have a DUI. It is almost like a badge of honor. Yeah, not for me.

      • slumbrew

        One of the good parts about city living is not having to worry about DUIs.

        Always much more circumspect on those occasions where we drive somewhere to meet friends. “Who’s driving home?” gets asked early on.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Interlock makes me think of landscape bricks, not drunks.

        Not a city liver, just don’t drink where I need to drive. Pisses me off in this day that I’m still picking up beer cans and fireballs along the road in the front.

  17. R C Dean

    So Spud, whatcha got in that barrel?

    I’m about to decant some home barrel aged Jack Daniels (Mrs. Dean prefers a Jack and soda, with Angostura bitters, for her cocktail these days).

    • Gustave Lytton

      I’m shocked at how good JD Single Barrel is. Nothing like old no 7.

  18. The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

    “Gunfire strikes Southwest plane on tarmac of Dallas airport, officials say”

    Looks like the Haitians are acclimating to Texas culture.

    • trshmnstr

      My BIL and SIL lived just south of Love field for a few years. To call that area a shit hole is offensive to shitholes. He had his car stolen, found it in a parking lot of an apartment complex, called out the cops, and when he had the audacity to ask them to sit on the car for a few hours to catch the guy who stole it, they said “who do you think we are? [insert suburb here]? Just get in your car and drive it back home.”

  19. DEG

    “I’m not interested,” she says. “I just don’t trust men. You don’t know what they’re thinking these days — whether they’re one of the guys with misogynistic thoughts. It’s so normalized. Why would I even risk it?” she says.

    First thought: She’s projecting her misandry onto men.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Alsotoo, there are a ton of women who did vote for Trump, and now they get the pick of all the men.

      This will last about a week.

    • KSuellington

      Having nutty chicks who don’t really like men swear off sex is a good thing. Bonus if they can do that head shaving thing too so as to make it really obvious.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        +1 blue tattoo.

        That way they can be recognized forever. 10 years from now, once those bitches have had their fill of abortions and cats, I want my sons to still have a mechanism for easily identifying crazy.

    • Evan from Evansville

      This is exactly how I read it. Well. Thanks, gals. Visibly taking yourself off the market helps weed the chaff. If the movement furthers, men will outnumber women. The limiting sex will show off (and put out) more to attract possible suitors. Thanks. We greatly appreciate it. (“Well, not THAT guy. He sucks. Now as for me, miss…”)

      And it is predictable, those sorting themselves *out* of the field are likely uninteresting, unattractive, unaccomplished folk. Otherwise, their attention would be focused on more productive tasks and interests…but that would make them more interesting, attractive and accomplished. Can’t have that.

      • R.J.

        I imagine most of them will wear the blue bracelets too. Hilarious that any news outlet thinks this will “reshape America.”

  20. The Hyperbole

    While I applaud your choice of a grown up hat (as opposed to the baseball caps many of the man children around here seem to think is an acceptable head covering) I have always found the feather a bit twee. Get rid of it and wear a good old unadorned hat just like god intended. You don’t see Lee Van Cleef wearing a hat with a feather in it, fuck’s sake.

    • Nephilium

      It depends on the hat. A Zoot hat without a feather is only half a hat. A porkpie on the other hand, doesn’t need a feather. A small understated feather on a fedora is perfectly cromulent.

      • UnCivilServant

        You need two ostrich feathers and a brim that reaches your shoulders. You may pin up the side of the brim opposite the feathers if you have a rapier.

      • Nephilium

        UCS:

        I’ve been tempted for several years to buy a suit from these guys. The suits that fit me in the 90’s are now with my nephew. I don’t know if he’s worn them yet.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nah, the zoot suit doesn’t suit you.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        There is a part of me that wants a frock coat, a la mid Victorian England. But, I am not a person who has sartorial flair, and would feel the fool.

        I do think wearing a normal suit is one of the most comfortable things you can do though.

      • Shpip

        You may pin up the side of the brim opposite the feathers if you have a rapier.

        STEVE SMITH NO NEED RAPIER. HIM ALREADY RAPIEST!

    • Evan from Evansville

      Gotta say I’m with Hyp, here. Unless for a performance or a purposeful occasion, I don’t get the throwback to Fancy-Pants Land.

      Full disclaimer: I base my wardrobe on a) Fitting, and b) leaving Evan as un-standoutish as possible. I prefer my relative anonymity to come with no easy-to-catchphrase visual signal. “What’d he look like?!” “Uh, no idea, but he had a feather on!” See also: Visible tattoos; bright, flashy decoration; out-of-place dress; legible writing or images; etc. –> My guile requires shadow and deception. Often being a social cripple also lets me slink down unknown alleys.

      • rhywun

        un-standoutish as possible

        Dittoes.

        I got a comment recently from a stranger on the bus on my cap – I was mortified.

    • Spudalicious

      Oh, Hype. I’m guessing you like mayo, too.

      • R.J.

        Next thing you know he’ll be making fun of tassels on fezzes.

      • Nephilium

        R.J.:

        So many people asked what they needed to do to get a fez when they saw it. I also got asked multiple times if I was a shriner, mason, or Turkish.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Ya know, my mother was in Turkey and she asked if I wanted anything, to which I replied that I wanted a fez. She brought me this cheap ass tourist BS thing, when what I wanted was the real thing, wool with a decent tassel.

      • Aloysious

        I’m surprised that he didn’t defend stylish tricorns.

        Now that’s a hat.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I assume he would go with a bicorne with a gaudy cockade.

    • MikeS

      Troll level: meh

  21. UnCivilServant

    Why are developers obsessed with changing the ui, graphics, and icons?

    These are the least necessary changes and most disruptive. I mean, these are open source projects, you don’t need to keep ruining the UI and appearance to convince your managers you’re working.

    • slumbrew

      Because they’re utilizing the CADT model of development.

      • rhywun

        Fixing bugs isn’t fun; going through the bug list isn’t fun; but rewriting everything from scratch is fun

        To be fair, this is absolutely 💯% correct.

      • slumbrew

        Oh, yes. Nobody wants to work on printer dialogs for fun, which is why Microsoft and Apple have to pay people to do so.

        Open source works best when people are working on things they use themselves. E.g., things like Wireshark or the kernel itself.

      • rhywun

        OTOH, I am the weirdo who actually likes to write documentation. UX is very important to me.

  22. Q Continuum

    “I had thought at some point I’d want to find a good man, no matter how hard that would be. At this point now though, I don’t feel that need.”

    kthxbai!

    • Aloysious

      Madam, your terms are acceptable. You may go away now.

    • SarumanTheGreat

      But then how are you possibly ever going to be able to have that ultimate social signaling act that proves that you a fully progressive independent woman: an abortion?

      Stupid me. They’ll get IVF treatments and then abort the result.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Even better than an abortion in those sorts of circles is having a “trans child.” It’s like an accessory.

    • KSuellington

      There are no pictures of these women in the article.

      • slumbrew
      • KSuellington

        Korean Trigglypuff is exactly what I was thinking of.

  23. Brochettaward

    That story on the 4B movement is laughable on a number of levels.
    1. I’m genuinely curious how large it is in Korea. Something tells me not very. Most women are not batshit crazy, especially in a conservative society like Korea.
    2. South Korea is one of the safest countries on the planet. While I’m sure there’s some ugly stories of violence against women, something tells me it’s quite exaggerated by the feminists behind this shit.
    3. “I just don’t trust men. You don’t know what they’re thinking these days — whether they’re one of the guys with misogynistic thoughts. It’s so normalized. Why would I even risk it?” she says. <— This lady is fucking unhinged.
    4. 57% of women may have voted for Harris. MAY have. I highly doubt that figure, personally, given the lopsided nature of the election. But that's right in line with past elections for Trump and the R's, anyway. If some batshit crazy leftie women want to swear off men, like Spud says, it's more than who the fuck cares. It's go right ahead and do it.
    5. "From 2021 to 2023, female sexual assault victims saw a 15 percent rise." <- I'd love to delve into these numbers, but most likely a case of more reporting. And there's no hard numbers provided. Shocking, i know. Percentages are easy to make look scary.*
    6. Nutty Tiktok lady probably never had a boyfriend to begin with.

    *I couldn’t resist Googling it, and yea…it’s utter bullshit. Sexual assaults dipped in 2021 from previous years, and then rose back up to historic norms. They’re still lower right now than they were in 2017-2019. It’s just natural fluctuation. There are 13 rapes per 100,000 in South Korea. That’s pretty fucking low. Beats out most European countries and the US by a lot. It’s about a third of the “developed” world’s rates.

    • Brochettaward

      dating, marriage, house, kids — looks, increasingly, like a trap set by men who don’t see them as equals.

      Oh, it’s a trap alright. But sure as shit not designed for men.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        They are correct. Men do not see women as equals, because we are not equal. Men and women are more yin/yang than equal. Most women understand this too. Men have built and changed the entirety of the world around us for the entirety of human history. Without men there are no cities. No buildings, no physical infrastructure. These sorts of women want to see men as a permanent underclass. Those made to live in the cellar when they aren’t out doing the things women simply cannot do, while they enjoy the world men have built and maintained.

    • Mojeaux

      I truly think they don’t understand what a self-own this 4B shit is.

      1. No sex with men.
      Celibacy before marriage for women has been a societal expectation for millennia, until 1965. Now, we all know it didn’t always work out that way, but it WAS a normal expectation.

      2. No giving birth.
      Every time they scream about abortion, the right says, “Shut your legs” and they scream about being misogynistic and “my body, my choice.” Okay. So choose not to do things that get you pregnant.

      3. No dating men.
      You weren’t dating anybody shorter than 6’1″ and without a 6-figure income anyway, so what’s the problem?

      4. No marriage with men.
      If you’re not dating, probably you aren’t going to get married, so…

      And this is supposed to hurt society’s feelings?

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        So choose not to do things that get you pregnant.

        And if they do choose to do them, maybe use one of the dozens of methods that prevent pregnancy to within thousandths of a point percentage from 100%.

      • Brochettaward

        If you’re the sort of broad letting a guy rawdog you when you just met, you aren’t the type who is going to close your legs permanently because of politics. Just my own crazy hunch there.

      • Mojeaux

        @ muzzled woodchipper

        Eggszackly!

        1. birth control pills (lock em up so your boyfriend or his mother can’t nuke them, don’t take with antibiotics, remember to take them at the same time every day)

        2. implantables

        3. NuvaRing/sponge

        4. diaphragm

        5. IUD

        6. condoms (don’t let them out of your control)

        7. sterilization (this might be difficult to get if you’re young)

        8. Plan B (if you’re still that short-sighted)

        I mean, come ON. Why is abortion all these women’s go-to????

        Got my kid on birth control as soon as I thought wise. No, I didn’t give her permission to go out and hook up with just anybody. I protected her against pregnancy in case she’s raped.

        Mothers who are THAT concerned about their daughters’ reproductive rights are being completely irresponsible (and idiotic) by relying on abortion as the end-all be-all contraception method.

      • Mojeaux

        If you’re the sort of broad letting a guy rawdog you when you just met, you aren’t the type who is going to close your legs permanently because of politics.

        I wish they would keep their promises.

    • Evan from Evansville

      In the OG story I read, “4B” comes from the authors of one ‘study.’ Women are just as batshit in Korea as elsewhere. See also: Water=Wet. Love hotels are openly accepted for men to have affairs. Women, not so much. Untaken women are just as human as all others. I would say it’s more likely for women to not report rape or sexual assault/advances. I imagine Work Sex stuff is far more rampant. I also imagine tremendous silence.

      In marriage, women keep their family names, their children take the father’s name. Hrm. Legit, no comment from me. Meh/cool.

      • Brochettaward

        I have no doubt it’s a more patriarchal society than here, though the Western feminists would never admit to as much.

        That’s even more of a reason why I doubt 4B is really some massive movement over there.

      • Brochettaward

        They claimed just 4k members in 2019. So yea…it’s bullshit. Just like it will be here.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I don’t think I will ask my wife and Korean in-laws about the 4B movement (no need to give them ideas).

      However, I will say that I think that the Korean women might have a point. There is still a lot of acceptance of “she needs to mind her tone” domestic abuse in the farmlands of Korea. I know my mother-in-law was beaten fairly often when she was younger.

      I also know that Korean women can be pretty mercenary about marriage. My cousin-in-law loved being a farmer but couldn’t attract a wife because no one wants to be a farmer’s wife now. My cousin-in-law could have been an underwear model at the time, so it wasn’t a question of him being too ugly. He eventually moved to the nearby city, got an office job and swindled a gal into marrying him. Then he moved them all back to the farm. They eventually divorced, but I always knew there was something rotten where he couldn’t get a wife just because he wanted to be a farmer and live out in the sticks.

      My favorite sexism story is from when Mrs. Holiness and I were going to be married. My family flew to Korea for the big event and we went on a few tourist trips with them. At one of them, we decided to get some dongdongju because it was famous there.

      My mom was a very liberated gal. I was raised to believe that women=men=women. So Korea was already a challenge for her. This stop really put her to the test.

      First off, all the men sat at one table and all the women sat at another table. Then all of us men got a bottle of dongdongju each. The women’s table got a big bottle of beer for all the women to share.

      You could practically see the steam pouring out of Mom’s ears at that point.

      It would have been funny if you didn’t know how Mom was going to chew Dad’s ears about how could any country exist like this?

  24. hayeksplosives

    Hello, my Glibertarian family.

    I wish everyone a wonderful weekend (what’s left of it!)

    I offer a blanket apology for when I’ve offended folks or been callous or clueless or annoying.

    Please.forgive me and my clumsiness.

    • Brochettaward

      I’m offended by apologies. Never apologize is the golden rule of Firsting.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Ditto HE! (Although not sure about the apology part, none of that characterizes you, imo)

    • slumbrew

      I offer a blanket apology for when I’ve offended folks or been callous or clueless or annoying.

      I doubt you crack the top-10 on those fronts.

      You’re good.

    • Mojeaux

      No worries. Things were very intense last night.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Were you trying to praise KC BBQ again?

    • dbleagle

      No need to apologize HE. If you can’t blow off steam with us, you can’t blow off steam.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Makes me sad. I almost joined but got distracted. Sounds like I missed some fun.

      In all seriousness HE, I am going to assume that your transgressions were minor and I won’t have to excommunicate you.

      The bestest part of Glibs is that we can show our ass every now and then and won’t be condemned to cancelation.

      *As one of the Founding Member of the Minnesoda Glibs, you have +3 street cred
      ** It kills me to admit that MikeS also is THE Founding Member of Minnesoda Glibs.

      • Fourscore

        Those of us that know MikeS find him to be sort of likeable, generous (holds up monogrammed cup holder), and a real addition to the MN Glibs. He lives so close to the NoDak-MN border he has picked up on MN Nice characteristics, pronounces “Uff Da” like a local, knows the places for early ludefisk and brings lefse in his lunch bucket.

        Them NoDak fellers is sort of OK in my book.

    • Ted S.

      If they’re offended, they need to remember you can blow them up over the internet. 😉

  25. Old Man With Candy

    FWIW, at Oberlin East, I have not observed even one 4B.

    • Pope Jimbo

      You would think that the draft dodgers would be perfect for the 4B gals

      “Insert 4A into 4B”

      • Fourscore

        4B is just a Rite of Passage for those girls that couldn’t get a date for the Prom.

      • Sean

        Margarine sucks, but 💚 Vic.

    • rhywun

      “In college I was about as left as you could get, full red and black”

      “Was”?

      lol

      • Grumbletarian

        He’s a moderate now.

      • Sean

        Background checks? What’s that?

  26. Fourscore

    Morning Sean, another nice day but winter is going to show up about Tuesday.

    • Sean

      ☕🍳❄

      Bring on the snow!

  27. Don escaped Memphis

    the things women simply cannot do

    4B comes at an interesting time in that everyone can do whatever they want. Whether marriage or sex interests someone is exactly the choice that it should be.

    The trans movement has rendered the athletic comparisons of the sexes a daily ritual: the media are constantly showing us teen-age boys blowing up female bodybuilders at every stunt, average men setting records in women’s competitions, and, sadly, women exploding or at the very least wearing out very quickly in the way, it should be admitted, that hard work eventually destroys men as well.

    But the list of things women can’t do is going away in many good ways, and there is a longer list that might be handled soon by design. For example, steelwork is important because iron’s position in the economy endures, but the value proposition of lighter materials increases every day, and at some point much lighter and easier to handle members might well replace ferrous, and then who can safely and ably handle those members can come from a wider pool. Women might develop robots and drones and all manner of tools to erect and construct things; the cost of poor safety might soon render many occupational practices untenable; women could then be everywhere driving and managing these new methods.

    But, when that day comes, it probably will little matter. Differences due to choice are manifest: after decades of trying to recruit women to engineering, for example, only a fifth of engineering graduates are women; only a seventh of engineers per se are women. Making sizing choices based on tradeoffs while fitting into space constraints is a male pursuit, it must be admitted, because men are the spatial sex. Exceptions are welcome and noted, but this is what we are made of in the main. Women who do graduate in engineering drift to sales, administration, or project management; if there is design work in their purview, the final 3D modeling will actually be done in some pool that is 95% male.

    I need a guy (that guy could be a gal, of course) for application sales. I would consider absolutely anyone. But seeing how equipment fits and fits together in a space is something almost no one can do well, and almost certainly no women will apply. The other weird thing that is that risk-taking is a male specialty, so fully half of the people who do apply will be men who think they can do the job but absolutely can’t.