I like the idea of Britain turning into Shelbyville. But we must protect our precious lemon tree. BritWar III if that’s what it takes.
https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1866496065295245511
What Nancy Mace’s Despicable Slur Will Cost Us
Once upon a time, politicians refrained from using slurs to describe members of minority groups. Instead, they expressed their hatred through euphemism and impersonal fearmongering, lest they be deemed uncivilized. For public officials, it seemed like enough to pass discriminatory laws and promote negative stereotypes—they didn’t need to name-call, too.
That era is over. Last week, a group of trans-rights activists staged a sit-in at the Capitol to protest a resolution, proposed by Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), that would prohibit transgender women from using women’s restrooms in the building. After a few of them were arrested for protesting, Mace herself headed down to the offices of the U.S. Capitol Police to make a video at the scene.
Here’s how Mace explained the situation: “Some tr*nny protesters showed up at the Capitol today to protest my bathroom bill.” To make sure no viewers would miss the slur, Mace posted it with subtitles.
Dipshit complains that she can no longer police language, cannot grasp that her and her kind’s excesses prove exactly why politeness was always just a one-way street.
Bonus idiocy from the comments:
Remember American History X? Remember Edward Norton’s character? The curb-stomping, the routine incitement to and infliction of violence? And remember how, once held to account by being sent to prison, he was raped? In that low moment, he began to claw his way back to regaining his own humanity. For Nancy Mace, if she was on the receiving end, if someone grabbed her by the poo-say just to “put her in her place,” she wouldn’t have a moment of insight. She’d remain the malignant attention hore that she’s proven herself to be. She has a profound deficit of humanity, and that absence of humanity is a deadly miscalculation on her end. If she’s willing to discard her own humanity for base self-advancement, then how much sympathy is she due when she’s the target?
Wishing for Mace to be correctively sexually assaulted is a fabulous take, isn’t it?
But wait… there’s more!
I Have a Suggestion for What the DOGE Guys Could Actually Do to Cut Government Spending
If Musk and Ramaswamy are serious about cutting government spending, they should start with the tax code. This sounds counterintuitive—taxes are where we raise money, not spend it—but in fact, we spend approximately $1.7 trillion each year through the tax code.
This spending—disguised as deductions, exemptions, and tax credits—tends to favor the wealthy in ways that would likely never be approved if proposed as direct subsidies, obscures the government’s size and impact, and impedes our ability to tackle government spending. Let me explain.
Our tax code contains two kinds of rules. The first, often referred to as “normative,” is designed to measure income. An example might be deductions for business expenses, which are necessary to determine how much money someone actually made. The second kind of rule is designed to reward or penalize taxpayer behavior. Examples include the deduction for retirement savings and the exclusion of employer-provided health insurance. It is this area of tax code that has become overgrown and ripe for pruning.
Not taxing is spending! So taxing more is cutting spend! These fucking idiots are morons.
“politeness was always just a one-way street.”
Because those screaming “TERF!!” and spewing hate on women who don’t want to be molested in bathrooms are Good and Virtuous People on the Right Side of History.
Calling someone a Nazi fascist isn’t a slur, because it’s what they truly are…
Wishing for Mace to be correctively sexually assaulted is a fabulous take, isn’t it?
Much enlightenment and tolerance. Stunning moral bravery too.
It’s not very lady-like, that is for sure.
There is no universe in which a tranny is ladylike. They can try, but eventually, some solely male trait will emerge when they get mad.
Mojo know.
Also, notice that the Slate article harps on the concept of protecting people from transitioning and from forced association with trans-identifying people. “Protecting” is their new dogwhistle word.
Take note, this is how you first.
I predict this will go into hiding for a few hours.
cousin marriages “build family bonds”
Words of wisdom.
and honor killings enforce those bonds.
The always unstated corollary.
Well, he’s not wrong. . . .
Several decades ago, I went to visit some relatives in Missouri. Bending an elbow in town, I met a gal, and long story short: I slept with my third cousin.
The family was livid — which came as a surprise to me, since they didn’t say a word about the first two.
Hi-yo!
*applause*
Now I’m my own Grandpa!
😀
*blinks*
*counts on fingers*
They also build a congenital defect rate about 100x higher than the average Briton. And here I thought they were a bunch of inbreds on that island.
Good grief, with the waves of invasions – Angles, Saxons, Danes, Normans. Now, for some 800 years after, okay.
Remember American History X? Remember Edward Norton’s character?
Didn’t these people drive themselves into a tizzy when President Cartoon Villain -elect made a pop culture reference to Hannibal Lecter?
Wishing for Mace to be correctively sexually assaulted is a fabulous take, isn’t it?
Some people just have to learn things the hard way.
Some CEO’s need killin’, some lawmakers need rapin’.
I’m surprised it took them this long to get here.
Oh, the lefties just want to date her.
Aren’t those the new rules?
She is kind of hot but still on the wrong side of the hot/crazy divide.
https://x.com/Richard_Harambe/status/1864671534637310410
Does she have a six-pack?
Pound/s>#MeToo died on 10/7.WooHoo, I am ready for my new job as a tagger!
She is kinda hot. And single.
Not sure how crazy, still less crazy than your average npr drone that omwc goes for, seeing as she can tell the difference between a man and a woman.
“they should start with the tax code”
This person would be happy to hear they have discussed the tax code, namely scrapping the whole thing and going to a flat tax.
In the wake of the most anti-trans campaign cycle in U.S. history, mainstream conservatives are starting to envision some political upside to abandoning any feigned concern for trans people—and dehumanizing them in the starkest, most shocking terms.
Today, Bad Cattitude referred to the MSM as “projection driven drama donkeys.”
This article could be Exhibit A.
I think you could also make the case that it is either the first or second most pro-trans campaign cycle in US history. When was the last time we had a Presidential candidate who was as pro-transing as Kams, anyway?
Because transing, pro or con, was simply not even a tiny part of any campaign until very very recently.
In all honesty, I would say the Biden administration was the “most anti-trans” administration. Everything they did was an anti-tranny display.
Just not in the ways they thought.
“the most anti-trans campaign cycle in U.S. history”
I don’t think men were trying to use women’s restrooms and push their way into women’s sports for most of our history.
Just remember that previously they were complaining about “invisibility.” Now they are highly visible and ain’t liking it none at all.
Anything short of total submission to the most delusional demands & uncritical acceptance of all the debunked supporting evidence – is proof of the most anti-trans anything ever.
It’s about destruction of objective truth in service of demoralization of the population. The trans shit is just the tool du jour, as soon as they become inconvenient, they’ll get tossed onto an ice floe (see: “normie” gay men, soccer moms, high-income Asians, etc.).
Agree with Q. When we start to question and actively deny objective truths, They™️ can feed us anything they want. This bullshit isn’t about the right for a man to whip out his lady dick in bathrooms, it’s about us denying there is a fundamental difference between the women and the men with lady dicks. That’s the goal.
There are two levels here. One is the elites who indeed push shit just for the thrill of “smashing the system”. Then there are the targets of their focus – in this case, people with gender dysphoria – whom they have successfully convinced to go along with all of their crazy shit.
I feel for the latter. The former can die in a fire. Preferably before they move on their next targets.
it provides greater subsidies to those in higher tax brackets than those in lower brackets. If someone proposed a direct subsidy where rich people were given more money than poor people … well, let’s just say that the politics of that would be difficult.
Rich people buy more expensive houses. No shit, Shirley?
Wait… I remember the outcry when the SALT deduction was reduced. Exactly the type of thing they’re arguing for here.
Someone is very confused about what a “subsidy” is. Now, there are some in the tax code, but they mostly go to the po’ – the EITC and similar. “You don’t have to pay tax on some of what you made last year” isn’t a subsidy.
But remove the SALT cap, right Ds?
So, does Mace’s resolution only prohibit trans “women” from using female-designated restrooms, or does the resolution apply to all biological males.
“keeping trans people out of bathrooms”
Again, I’m not seeing that. It’s a question of WHICH bathrooms.
I’m completely indifferent to the term “tranny” (“trannie”?) as it’s a shortening of the term “transgender.” Just as “homo” is a much more neutral term than “faggot.”
My understanding is that if you’re a tranny, you aren’t allowed to use any bathroom at all.
The Tycho Brahe method?
That explains a lot about San Francisco.
That is how they are framing it. And they repeatedly refused reasonable accommodation — the special private one-toilet bathroom for anyone wishing privacy or to avoid awkward situations.
Do buildings not have back alleys anymore?
All seriousness, my local drinker has four separate individual restrooms (toilet, sink, locking door) instead of large mens + womens rooms. Really, I don’t hate it.
That is the way to go – I have seen it in new constructions.
And I predict there will be complaints over it by all the usual people.
My local is the same, Sheldon. Although they do have stick figures of Men, Women, and Alien on the doors.
Alien? They make Mexicans use one particular bathroom? That can’t be right!
Why? They are all going to be using the back door pretty soon…
Tranny is the feminine, Trans is the male.
Trannie is what is under your car.
I’m sorry, I speak English. We don’t use gendered words. Because we’re much more aware and enlightened than those Europeans and their degenerate Latin corruptions.
“Tranny” was a familiar, somewhat humorous, and not at all pejorative term as recently as a couple decades ago when, e.g., NYC’s Meatpacking District was characterized more by tranny hookers than Apple Stores.
I believe it was intentionally pushed as a pejorative in recent years for the attention and of course to shame the rest of us.
I was told it was offensive at least 18 years ago.
You all need to hang out the the correct corners of the Internet of you want to see where the madness is going next. I’ve stopped doing it, but where I used to lurk and post… They were right in this vein, even down to furries and pedos. I almost got banned for using the word tranny.
Most important: Eliminating this kind of spending is really difficult. Getting rid of spending in the code looks like a tax increase.
Because it is. What did I win?
All income belongs to the government. You should be thankful for what they let you keep.
But we must protect our precious lemon tree
Those damn lemon stealing whores.
This made me guffaw, thank you.
🙂
Here’s the thing about bathrooms. Most of us realize there is a non zero chance, in a public bathroom, of a homosexual being present. We survive, and are most likely none the wiser. In theory, the same should hold true for transsexuals just looking for a warm place to take a shit. The problem arises from the transsexuals’ lobby’s need to turn a private function into a public political display. If some chick in Carharts and Red Wing work boots comes into the men’s room while I’m taking a leak, it’s okay with me as long as she keeps her yap shut.
Unfortunately, it’s the noisy fringe who spoil everything.
Notice that it’s not transmen going into men’s rooms that’s an issue. I know there’s guys who care (used to work with one when we had two FTM working in an office), we laughed at them and asked them if they were worried that the transmen would have bigger dicks. I’ve also seen women ask if anyone minds if they use the mens’ room when there’s a long line for the ladies. The general answer was, “Nope, but get in and get out.”
Not just get-in and get-out, but don’t pay attention to the language used.
All
I can’t imagine objecting to something along the lines of, “You use the bathroom of who you can convincingly pass as.” That’s probably ‘trans erasure’ or ‘non-binary genocide’ or something…
I have gone in the men’s room when the women’s line was too long/bathroom occupied, and I couldn’t hold it.
Likewise, I would totally forgive a straight, obvious dude going into the women’s restroom if he is about to blow out the back of his pants, so long as he apologizes profusely and skedaddles asap.
With dudes-in-dresses-and-lipstick, however, it’s different. This is a sexual fetish that, to get maximum “euphoria boner” out of, they have to thrust it upon women without women’s consent. It’s not enough to dress up like a girl and still have your weenie and want to keep it. It’s about making women participate whether they want to or not, which is an act of power.
They hate women. They are turned on looking at themselves in the mirror as a caricature of women. They want to force women into their fetish. They want to push women out of their own spaces. And then they turn to male aggressors as soon as the women don’t go along.
A-fuckin’-men.
The movement as a whole is straightforward demoralization. For the individual useful idiots actually doing it you are right spot on.
The whole thing is evil no which way you look at it.
Trump got after it in Paris:
https://x.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1865966069740867944
In all honesty, I would say the Biden administration was the “most anti-trans” administration. Everything they did was an anti-tranny display.
Just not in the ways they thought.
They did everything possible to fan the flames.
I perused that Slate article, and thought “This is the dumbest thing I’ve read on the internet this week.”
Then I read the comment section.
They all want cake
So… when was this time when people didn’t use slurs to talk about groups in politics? I seem to recall LBJ had some choice phrases, as did Wilson, and I’m pretty sure the politicians around the Lincoln era weren’t afraid to drop an N bomb during a speech or debate. Or is tranny worse than “the N word”?
Aamco will have to retrain all their mechanics.
You laugh, creech, but when I worked for the phone company, we weren’t allowed to call a certain type of wire cutter a dike, even though that comes from diagonal cutter.
RC Dean asked at the end of the previous comment section:
What’s the larger conspiracy? Cui bono from an insurance executive getting popped on the streets?
The government folks who want single-payer?
They want medicare for all = single payer – single payer is YOU.
What they really want is Medicaid for all, because I pay a premium for Medicare, and for the supplemental insurance I have. You want entirely zero cost to the consumer – that’s Medicaid.
“Examples include the deduction for retirement savings and the exclusion of employer-provided health insurance.”
How about we start with electric vehicle and solar panel subsidies before we target necessities like health care and retirement?
Though I doubt Musk will go for that one.
“Some tr—y protesters showed up at the Capitol today to protest my bathroom bill.” To make sure no viewers would miss the slur, Mace posted it with subtitles.
Oh, horror, The T-word.
Time for some “Dear Glibs” advice. My kid and her husband have a car they bought here, and had the title sent to my address for some reason. Now they want to sell the car but they need me to send the title. What is the best method of mailing such a thing?
Registered letter.
Looks like the USPS has a few options that require a signature, I’ll go with one of those depending on cost.
That is basically what I meant. I forgot that they stopped calling it that, and just went to signed.
FedEx. Signature Required.
Fuck USPS
Massacre
The news came by Slack message.
Cruise CEO Marc Whitten, who took the top post in June, posted a message Tuesday afternoon in the company’s announcements channel along with a link to a press release entitled “GM to refocus autonomous driving development on personal vehicles.”
GM, which acquired the self-driving car startup in 2016, would no longer fund the company, ending a mission that hundreds of Cruise engineers had worked on for years.
Minutes later, during an all-hands meeting, Cruise employees learned a few more details. The self-driving car company would be absorbed into parent company GM and combined with the automaker’s own efforts to develop driver assistance features — and eventually fully autonomous personal vehicles. Whether their jobs would be safe or cut was, and still is, unclear.
Did they think they were working for the government?
I said from the start the first such incident would be the last for this industry.
Gee, I wonder what got Nancy Mace all riled up…
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/police-arrest-suspect-accused-assaulting-nancy-mace-capitol-grounds-rcna183716
I’d like to know what part of the Capitol these things occurred in. Were they in a restricted area? If so, who let them in?
It’s OK when them/they do it.
Funny how Slate doesn’t mention the assault.
Sure, kind of like that nice Michael Jackson impersonator that curly haired white guy killed.
Cruise has been under pressure to commercialize robotaxis — and generate revenue — for years. And at one point, hopes and ambitions were high. In 2021, GM projected that Cruise would have tens of thousands of custom-built Origin robotaxis on the road that could generate $50 billion in annual revenue by the end of the decade.
The company was eventually forced to push back its ambitious deadline, like many other autonomous vehicle startups.
Aim high.
They don’t care that envy is one of the seven deadly sins, do they.
You are a funny guy Rhy.
Shorter progressive: Not giving is taking.
Correction: You not giving is taking. Me not getting for free is denial of access.
Envy, pride, lust…
They’ve got (at least) a trifecta.
As I mentioned earlier, would the FedGov subject themselves to the kind of financial scrutiny we must endure? I think it would be fun.
If they cant account for it, they dont need it. Cut that much from the overall budget. Keep doing that until they can figure out where it is all going.
An interesting theory on why the response to COVID was so crazy.
https://nickrafter.substack.com/p/the-48-hours-that-broke-the-left?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true
It is a couple months old, from back in the spring, but I just came across it.
Bullshit.
Italy went nuts before the US. I distinctly recall suggesting in early March 2000 that panic was a bad idea, and some idiot responded that Italy didn’t panic, and look what happened to them — they had to lock down as a result of not panicking early enough.
It mentions Italy, but Italy doesn’t describe how so many US institutions went batshit with rules that had no bearing on anything, dragged it out, and violated enumerated rights, which Italy doesn’t have in the same way.
I recall people panicking about it back in late 2019, which seemed like a repeat of the original SARS scare up in Toronto back in the early 2000’s.
Of course the Italian minister (? official?) admitted (? bragged) in a book that he pushed the response, not based on medical necessity but as an opportunity to introduce Chinese style governance in Italy. Maybe, combined with a bunch of GOF ass-covering, our response has a similar root cause.
I think that it was more likely that the in apparatchiks in government just believed in China’s bullshit and followed along with their authoritarian “solutions” to the problem that they created together. The high ups knew from the start that it came from a lab and so went into DEFCON panic mode. The proggies just went right along because they are sheep and follow their Dear Leaders.
Fauchi and I’m sure a number of others knew that taxpayer money was financing gain of function on coronaviruses in communist Chinese labs. So from the get go they knew that as soon as one of those got out in mid to late 2019 that shit was incoming. They were trying to save their own asses.
I hope 2025 is the Year of the Woodchipper.
I’m sorry, but the Top Men at Ars Technica very properly explain why a Republican produced report can not be trusted.
New congressional report: “COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory”
It’s like perfect projection…
That’s silly. Bernie wasn’t THAT popular. Not enough to turn society upside down for years. The mainstream left was already more than willing & capable of doing it.
Bernie wasn’t that popular, but all the knuckle heads who wanted him to be president all seemed to work in positions that could and did spin this up. So many of them were “public servants” or worked in non-profits of one sort or another. Anyway, it is a theory, nothing more. And the article covers a lot more ground than that.
Agree. It could have been a minor contributing factor, but I surely don’t buy it as a main cause of covid madness.
It was more simply the hubris of Top Men, and their inability to not Do Something.
The Woodchipper has it mostly right, but I’d add one more significant factor. The masses can’t handle their own shit and if you tell them to, they will reject you for someone who WILL tell them what to do. We here are in a bubble of people that don’t want to be told what to do, and it isn’t a very large bubble.
“if society won’t be persuaded to accept change, it will have to be forced on them through collapse. This was not only so they could rebuild it but also as retribution for rejecting their righteous revolutionary ideas. ”
This is how “progressives” always think. The connection to Bernie losing is ridiculous.
they decided, was evil because “fun” reinforced, validated, and sustained the evil Capitalist system that fosters inequality and human cruelty.
That implies rationality.
The Puritans were not rational, and these people are their descendants.
All of the debating over the fine details of why, if, how, should, whatever is pointless. The people stirring up the bathroom thing are not doing it to go to the bathroom of their choice blah blah. They are doing it to stir shit and degrade societal norms. No solution is going to get them to stop doing that. The best solution is to tell them no, fuck off. Dont give an inch.
On that front and others they keep doing this tiresome shit because we let them. Stop letting them.
Some day one of these dudes is going to run into a woman who’s packing something other than a dick.
I figure it’s going to be a boy being transitioned by his mother shooting her.
Or a tranny shooting up a school? That could never happen.
Yes, the U.S. should stick its dick in South Korea domestic politics.
Or, how about, pull its troops instead and wish them well.
Opinion: South Korea needs a stronger response from the U.S. to help save its democracy
If it’ll throw a wrench in the gears of the incoming Trumpministration then Biden’ll be only too happy to do the stupidest thing he can manage.
100%.
The nihilistic sabotage is kind of impressive, whoever’s doing it.
It’s Obama and his proxies. Has been from the beginning.
Jesus tapdancing Christ, hasn’t the world had enough of us saving democracy for them??
Put your hot dog in some buns on Ass Wednesday.
https://archive.is/QXjd5
Great goodness, the tentacle rape tattoo on the first one. Lord have mercy…why would you get that in indelible ink?
Reply to Q.
Yikes.
One couldn’t say they weren’t warned…
Lack of self-respect implies anal on the first date.
For you, or for her?
Incredible.
My kind of girl. For once an inking I can agree with.
Update on my adventures in making sure a certain high profile arrest in Altoona PA doesn’t Epstein himself: So far, so good. Dude is a weirdo. Everyday, when I leave work there are a couple of camera crews set up. People keep ordering food for the guy and trying to have it delivered to the prison. We are getting crank calls constantly. There are so many people trying to put money on his books. And I am personally disgusted with a lot of people that I never thought that I would be, judging just by their reactions to the murder of Brian Thompson.
You have a front row seat?
Yes. It’s literally my job, at least for half my shift (I rotate every 2 hours with a partner), to keep the guy under observation.
Wow.
Good luck to you.
Don’t post anything here you’re not allowed to discuss. As interesting as it is.
And should you need to tell this tale, anonymously of course, such things can be arranged. Either as the germ (ewww) for a piece of fiction, or as an as-told-to piece where “the names have been changed to protect the innocent.”
These people are sick. Problem is that they weren’t born to revel in the brutal shooting down of a man in the streets. They were taught this, and it comes wholly from universities.
We need to burn their crops and salt the earth. Academia is the problem.
Pepperidge Farm remembers when people used to keep their murder fantasies to themselves.
Fuckin’ A! So do I, and I ain’t as old as PF.
+1 Warren on UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killing: ‘People can only be pushed so far’
What law is this?
So she’s advocating for hoisting the black flag?
Case in point:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/12/11/briahna_joy_gray_luigi_took_matters_into_his_own_hands_because_no_political_or_legal_system_considers_denying_healthcare_a_crime.html
NB: I acknowledge that health insurance can seem unfair and labyrinthine, but look to the FedGov regulations rather than evil CEOs that deny claims solely for the sexual thrill of watching policyholders suffer. Wanna be pissed? Get pissed at Obamacare.
“
LuigiTimothy McVeighiswas just a vessel through which people are expressing their deep frustration with the Americanhealthcaresystem,” she said.You’re gonna get us all on a list with talk like that, Sensei.
Also, come on, man…
You know that’s (D)ifferent.
So, no one has heard of rubbers?
https://12ft.io/proxy
I suspect certain countries skew the numbers, as usual. But let’s be safe out there, kids.
Linky no worky.
Try this:
https://archive.fo/TdWTA
Got it!
😬
Why, its almost like the moral/social prescriptions against indiscriminate sex had some basis other than harshing peoples’ buzz!
It was the PAYTREEARKEE that done it!
I blame it on hormonal birth control.
Here is my rant on herpes.
It is extremely transmissible. There are essentially no persons on earth not infected with it. The majority of infections occur at birth. Human immune systems keep it dormant most of the time. Occasionally for whatever reason some aspect of the immune system becomes weak and the herpes infection becomes active. It can transmit then. It transmits from open sores at the site of the original infection. Oral, anal, genital, eye…wherever it breaks out is where it originated. (skin with mucous membranes)
This became evident when it was noticed that nursing homes had a near 100% STD rate. Despite the stories about them being dens of debauchery what is actually happening is people have STDs most of their lives and dont know it until they age and their immune systems begin to fail.
Catching a fresh infection as an adult will result in frequent outbreaks for up to around ten years when the new infection is mostly suppressed.
Most of what lay explanations say about herpes (and other STDs such as gonnorhea, i.e. the clap) is mostly not true.
I will confidently predict that we will never eliminate herpes. We may be able to suppress it but until we have microbots that can repair/remove undesirable DNA/RNA we are stuck with it.
Hey microbots – if you are going to make me young again I would appreciate a little work on my telomeres. I want it to last as long as possible.
My life is a shambles, but the algorithm has blessed me with a dolphin video game soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLk04DibLWs&list=PLMt-m_b1cYTXVDHrQYN6shb7xmPZ-MJuj
Chin up, things will get better before you know it.
4 U.
https://archive.is/CYzAt/c230366ace76718cf28a6ce2417f477558cb7e0d.jpg
NSFW.
That’s high quality. Healthy, but not chiseled. Well endowed.
A little overboobed for my tastes, but can’t argue with the smile.
Heh.
Question:
Does anyone here have solid soldering skills who’d be willing to solder up a synth module for me? The built kit is complete, and parts minimal.
Here is a link to build guide. Reportedly an easy build. 4 pots, 4 encoders, 4 LEDs, a screen, and 8 jacks from what I can tell in the build guide.
https://www.thonk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Cutlasses-Gloop-build-doc-v1.0.pdf
Of course I’d buy the kit and compensate you for your time. If I’m able to get one of these, it will definitely be used in a future Glib piece.
Thread just flipped.
Off the top of my head UCS, RJ and Yusef if you see them around.
Thanks.