Abortion. It always comes back to abortion. This episode was from when the Supreme Court changes to abortion happened. I won’t say much on this topic, except this bunch that I’m going to say. It may be a sci-fi dream, but I think the goal should be to work on ways to remove a fetus from a ‘womb haver’ without injuring the fetus. A right to removal, it’s a win-win. Whores still get to whore it up and children don’t have to die. But no, people insist we must argue about the paradigm we’ve been stuck with since Hamurabi’s Code. Watch the damn cartoon, breeders.
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Purposefully, I am not a breeder – just so ya dontchaknow – and yet I shall watch and enjoy.
Don’t knock it till you don’t try it.
“Abort this conversation”
“Donald gets his carve out”
Nice
Dragging from ded thred, re: wealth:
A husband/father working a blue-collar job being able to raise a middle-class family on a single income.
I’m not sure this is an apples-to-apples comparison anymore. A house in 1950 was much smaller on average than the average house today. Three bedrooms was pretty much tops, with the parents getting one, boys getting one, and girls getting the other. And forget about multiple bathrooms; it was illegal to build houses with more than one for awhile because of restrictions on copper use. There were few if any family rooms, dens, home offices, or separate dining rooms. You had a one car garage if you were lucky. If you had a dishwasher, it was probably one you rolled up and connected to the sink to use.
The car you had (and you almost certainly only had one) was far simpler, with far less tech and gadgets than today, so of course it was more affordable. Every car today needs 46 airbags, a wi-fi hotspot, twenty cameras and fourteen computers.
You had a land line for telephone, so no cell phone bills, no internet, no cable or streaming services, no video games. So less money pissing away on assorted luxuries that many idjits consider essential today.
I was thinking similar. Usually one car too. Even compact second cars were not as common in the 50s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_Rambler
So where are those amazing productivity gains I keep hearing about, if they’re not helping the average worker afford all the shit people consider essential now?
There was some conservative economist/sociologist who argued that, today, you can support a middle-class family on one income if you’re willing to live a 1950s level of wealth & comfort.
When I went back to school 10-15 years ago, my lab partner did this. He and his wife had three kids, one stayed home and raised them (and it went back and forth between the two of them) and the other worked. He said things were tight financially, but it was doable.
Doable with trade offs. Telling your kids they dont get the latest and greatest, planned meals, budgeting, etc. It is very possible if you aren’t paying for every streaming service, latest cell phones, gaming systems, etc.
@Ownbestenemy:
This is probably not the biggest factor in household budgeting, but more parents seem to be going apeshit with gift-buying at almost every holiday on the calendar.
In my family and most other families I knew, Christmas would be the biggest haul, and birthdays would be next in size. Then my Mom might put together an Easter basket with some of that plastic grass and about $20 worth of candy (Easter was my favorite for some reason).
Now I know people who put together gift baskets for Easter, Halloween, and Valentine’s Day that are all in the hundreds of dollars. Not castigating anyone who does this, but it’s something I’ve never seen until the past ~10 years. I don’t get what caused it.
Color, nostalgia, sugar, and wish fulfillment.
Oh, lordy – we had one of those in the three-bedroom, one-bath house in which I grew up. (Luckily, just three daughters, so we didn’t all have to share the same bedroom.) That dishwasher contributed to my lifelong belief that all dishwashers really do is make dishes wet and hot.
They’re much better now; hoping you have one.
Grumble’s topic would make a good article.
Had one growing up like that. Also, the first house my wife and I bought needed one, as it was a fifties house with no space for it by the sink.
Yes, we do have a dishwasher – built-in! 😃 It’s basic, but works pretty well, though I haven’t really broken the habit of rinsing and wiping food off the dishes before I load them.
I’ve only had a dishwasher once, and we barely used it. There’s wisdom in my laziness; In my own place I tend to have two of every plate setting. For me and a gf or date, and also a backup for myself.
Having paucity encourages one to regularly clean one’s dishes. Read: Right after you’ve eaten. There’s simplicity in urgency.
Along with the (relative) simplicity of my taxes, never having kids greatly simplifies my life. I quietly encourage it amongst peers. (Just hold the lack of achievement.)
I have my own for the first time since last year. Love it. But the store brand cleaners don’t work on the disgusting soft (hard? I can never keep them straight) water.
rhywun High mineral content lows sudsing = hard water.
One trick is buy the cheap shit detergent and a box of TSP and put about 1/2 a teaspoon in with the powder in the main soak.
TSP trisodium phosphate. Used to be in all the detergents until we needed to save the planet by removing phosphates from grey water.
Ev! Keep your eyes and/or ears on your local weather! Ryan Hall Y’all says your general vicinity in IN is getting slammed, including having tornado warnings!
Or citric acid.
The cleaning worked, just glass and plastic were covered with spots.
I did try citric acid – didn’t do anything that I could tell.
@GT: Oh, we’re getting slammed! A big wave just passed over. Welcome to spring!
There was a big tornado near my Eville home in Nov 2005. In an old cornfield-turned -trailer area quite close to the Ohio River. When I ran, my long-jog route would take me by there and the Angel Mounds boating area, killing 24.
DAMN big thunderclap just now. Felt it in my feet, 2.5 stories up in a brick condo. Work tomorrow should be decisively chill. (Weather throws people off their normal shopping routines, I’ve learned.)
Rhy, looks as if your water’s pH is about 7.6 .
Talk about luxury! Could stand a spoon in mine.
Ev, your jogging killed 24 people?? 😨
OK. 🤨
One of the few things I miss about Big City water is how clean it was.
I’m not entirely certain the crud in this small city water is potable.
@GT: My flatulence is potent. Jogging farts toot out a jaunty groove.
The tornado was my fault. I tooted down a town.
Oh yeah. Burbank, CA:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BY2RlZjBhYjUtMWNlZS00ZjVkLTk0ZTEtZWE1NzI1ODNmZjYzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTU4MzkzMzE@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg
My parents grew up with a party line. I suppose a one-phone household was a smaller party line.
Soz:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094582/mediaviewer/rm1277168385/
On the farm we had a crank wall phone. Our number was 15, (1 long, 5 short). Maybe 15-20 or more phones heard the bell when anyone made a call. Phone calls were never personal and always short. Your friends listened when your phone was called, as we listened when our friends got called. No secrets in those days.
“Say, Sarah? Sheriff here…”
Old telephony on its own could be a topic.
I have three old MaBell phones, two rotary. 2/3 of them work great.
Remember Woody A. frantically redialing on a rotary phone in Play It Again, Sam? and answering services.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069097/quotes/?item=qt0271348
Rotary Phone Stumps Two Teenage Boys in Hilarious Bet
Not watching it but how can that “stump” anybody?
Oh, and they have never watched a visual motion medium older than the mid-70’s or so??
Quite possible, depending upon the yutes.
I’ve noticed for awhile that kids these days don’t watch anything old because they don’t have to and mostly have no interest to.
Losers.
How would they know unless they’re forced to, just by default?
If I were eight years old I’d probably declare cookies as my future major. Not just Toll House! Snickerdoodles too!
Er, 8 y.o. this year.
I gave up all that Princess Fireman stuff; soooo first grade.
Yeah, they aren’t forced.
We were forced because all three to five available channels showed movies and tv from most eras, at least the fifties and on.
In retrospect we were upper lower class, 3 kids (boys), 2 BR, small, my oldest brother slept on an Army cot in the dining room, which we never once ate in. My brother and I slept in the same bed. One closet, in my parents’ bedroom. My dad worked 9 hour days as a truck driver. Our family was intact, as were most of the families. My dad had built the house, it had 3 add-ons, heated with a coal burning stove in the living room. My mother said we were middle class but certainly not economically.
When we moved to the farm there were lots of families pretty much like us. We always had a car, always old. No TV until after I left home and was gone a year or two.
My Dad got a job working for the county on road maintenance about the same time I graduated high school, 1955. Things got better for them, his work load was easier, pay was better and kids all gone.
I wouldn’t trade those adventures though. I moved back to retire and now live about 3-4 miles from where we lived on the farm.
And I grew up in Orange County in the 70’s, we had 4 bedrooms, a den and a 2 car garage with driveways, I call bullshit
Whut looxury!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k
Sixties’ / ’70s’ architecture aren’t ’40s / ’50s.
Didn’t know about the copper restriction!
I’ve been watching a lot of “new urbanist” videos lately. While I don’t like their “gubmint should make new laws/taxes/subsidies to fix this” approach, or how there’s a bit of overlap with the “you will own nothing and be happy” crowd, they often do a good job of highlighting how government policies deliberately created the situation of sprawling suburbs full of oversized and overpriced houses (not sure why they don’t come to the seemingly logical conclusion that if a policy was bad, you should remove that policy, not create more policies on top of it).
Anyway, it’s either against regulations or financially unfeasible to build modest-sized homes or apartment units these days. They exist, but the supply is artificially constrained.
That is why Jane Jacobs was all about “build build build” – the affordable housing already exists; the wealthy just haven’t moved out of it yet.
Planners have been spending decades scrupulously ignoring the most basic advice of one of their so-called heroes.
husband/father working a blue-collar job being able to raise a middle-class family on a single income…doable now…just with hard choices. I did it.
Any bipartisan criminal offense bill in the past 50 years of NJ history is guaranteed to suck.
Murphy Signs Bipartisan Legislation Establishing Civil and Criminal Penalties for Deceptive AI Deepfakes
https://www.insidernj.com/murphy-signs-bipartisan-legislation-establishing-civil-and-criminal-penalties-for-deceptive-ai-deepfakes/
If you wonder why the things in the BOR are in the BOR just look at the laws written any time a new technology comes along. People go with their fear and gut instincts and immediately start doing wildly unconstitutional bullshit.
We already have laws against libel and slander.
It was done with political cartoons long ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpFPWi_jos
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The Salus-Grady libel law, also known as the Pennsylvania anti-cartoon law, was enacted by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in 1903 to discourage political criticism from the press. Governor Samuel W. Pennypacker championed the controversial law in response to an ongoing set of cartoons that mocked his successful 1902 gubernatorial campaign and his tenure as governor. Upset by being caricatured as a parrot, Pennypacker denounced what he deemed “the sensational devices and the disregard of truth” employed by the press.[1][2][3] The law broadened the circumstances under which a newspaper could be sued for libel, and made editors liable in their personal capacity to such lawsuits. Rather than having the chilling effect Pennypacker desired, the law backfired spectacularly. Charles Nelan and other artists drew cartoons more contemptuous than the previous ones, and nationally circulating newspapers joined the Pennsylvanian newspapers in protesting against the law.[4] The law languished along with Pennypacker when he stepped down from office in 1907, as his successor quickly repealed the controversial measure.[2]
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Ah, Gov. Sam Pennypacker (a DNA cousin). As a young man, he served in the 26th Penna. Emergency Militia which fired the first shots at Gettysburg on June 26th 1863. Fired, then ran like hell as Jubal Early’s war hardened Rebs bore down on them. The Pennypacker clan later wanted to run their MOH winner, Gen. Galusha Pennypacker, for governor but his grievous, never healed wounds caused him to decline to run. His ambitious cousin, Sam, entered politics in his stead. A dorm building at tPSU is named for him.
Regarding the cost of living, I got my first apartment in 2005 and lived there on about $700 for 2 years until I graduated college.
In Africa, Peace Corps paid me about $200 a month in local currency of which I spent about half. So I was living on about $3/day on average. I lived in a little house on the school compound, so no rent. Food was cheap so my chief expense was beer, which was like 50 cents a pint even at a bar.
The gator moved on, so I was able to swim today. I guess I swam about 500 feet in 10 minutes. The world record for the mile swim is 15 minutes. I got work to do. I’m not afraid of swimming near gators, but I don’t want to get arrested or banned from the swimming hole.
Florida Man catches 8 ft gator with bare hands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jme8g9fv9rg
$700 a month with $500 as rent. I was so frugal I got invited to join AARP at the ripe old age of 20. I guess Never thought I was a penny pincher.
I ate bacon and egg sandwiches often. It was cheaper back then.
Pork belly is about $3.49/lb and eggs from the farm are about $.50/egg. Still cheap if you want to work for it.
From birth to the age of 5, I shared a bedroom with my brother and sister. There was one bathroom in the house. When we moved to WV, my parents were proud that we all got our own bedrooms. After the move, my mom (nurse) went from working part-time to working full-time like my dad (computer programmer).
Live simple and be happy is the lesson I took.
The WV house had 3 bathrooms, 2 with tub-showers. There was much rejoicing.
I bet!
Poor guy, American too
Birth to about 5, roomie with the bro. I got about two years of my own room and then my mom remarried. Then it was three of us to a room in a house with 15 people (move back home siblings, oops I had a kid siblings, ‘oh, he is so sweet’ strays….I never felt all that while living it. It was me and my bros hanging out; me being the youngest I relished it.
I live in a small space in a big house, size does matter
The mujahideen have some baller war songs:
mujahideen = people who go on jihad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZudinqzCk
https://www.mojevideo.sk/video/26640/for_the_sake_of_allah_is_nasheed_sk_titulky.html
compare and contrast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3l_6tXb6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeEHz7KOgFs
Campells cream of of mushroom and Chicken soup, sublime!
It works. We have been on a homemade, from the farm, kick lately. But I have some love for some Campbells and chicken
We have been saving our onion, carrot, and celery scraps in the freezer for some time. About once a month, we get a rotisorrie chicken from Costco. After plucking the meat, the skin and carcass go in a pot with all those vegetables to create a very nice chicken stock. One carcass makes about 10 cups of stock. Let it cool and freeze it in freezer grade Aldi zip-lock bags. The chicken stock makes the perfect base for soups or rissotto or whatever.
Ryan Long turned me on to the Canadian Anthem I’d never heard, despite it’s been over a decade I watched the entirety of TPB before knowing this gem exists.
Since that predates Letterkenny, I’d say all of that show is based on that song.
The Ryan Long bit in question.
Long is a delight.
Rando couch potato men trounce female athletes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtxagVK-vec
This isn’t an insult, just a statement of anatomical reality. The average man has 8x the testosterone and 2x the upper body strength as the average women. This is why it is unfair for men to compete against women in sports. It’s just as unfair as throwing a bantam weight against a heavy weight.
“VOTE BOB”
/it could be worse
Stay up since we are in tornado watch or just sleep to cracking lightning and booming thunder….choices choices
We’re going to try to tough it out and stay up for a while. It hasn’t gotten noisy here near Dayton yet, but it’s apparently getting a little ugly a bit further north.
I can hear it off in the distance and our air sirens are absolutely trash for our area, so I guess when it cracks open we will try and get animals downstairs if we can.
I’m in Troy and it’s just rainy so far.
I have a policy of ignoring the sirens because 1) They set them off if there’s a light breeze and a cloud or two, and 2) The one time there was an actual tornado that passed through town, they went off AFTER it was obvious that there was a tornado happening.
Glad to see you around these parts again, Akira!
We’ve been hanging out with the cats in our cozy basement bathroom, (🙄) but we seem to be in the clear now, so getting ready to head back upstairs and maybe even go to sleep.😴
Nice to see you too and all the other regular Glibs, most of whom are still here! 🙂 Life has gotten busy these past few years, but I couldn’t stay away any longer. Somewhat comically, I’ve been seeing my Patreon emails this whole time for the dollar per month I give to support Hat and the Hair, and I kept thinking I should come back and check things out here. I finally did it, and man did I miss this place.
I recently reunited myself with the HPMOR series.
It’s a what-if sort of fan-fiction. What if Harry Potter’s aunt Petunia had wedded an Oxford professor. What if Harry Potter had been adopted into a loving family with his adoptive father being an Oxford professor of biology. What if Harry Potter is brought up a beloved adopted son between the two. The rest carries on from there. And goes terribly awry.
I read this several years ago and then reread it recently, and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s an odd thing to recommend, but you’ll get the hang of it very quickly.
https://hpmor.com/chapter/1It was all published many years ago. I had quite a lot of fun the second time through.
Like a proper Gib, you Sugarfree’d the link. Well done.
Hier
Yusef/ Bob 2025
It could be worse
open-ended question: North American megafauna went extinct 10,000 years ago, but Africa megafauna still exists. Why is that?
Masai lion hunt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPx5B3Z6YPY
elephant spear hunt:
https://youtu.be/V355OG77SQM?si=R8vk0tDJTknvD4QX&t=2579
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11,000 years ago (shortly after modern humans entered the New World), the average weight of a non-human mammal in North America was about 200 pounds compared to only 15 pounds today.
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https://pumpkinperson.com/2020/03/29/why-didnt-megafauna-go-extinct-in-africa/
“Shortly”? That was thousands of years after humans arrived in the New World.
That was some good eatin’ for them, I bet.
Great to see you again, Akira!
The Commute begins. Thursday should be pretty chill at Wally World, and I highly approve. Cubs and Suzuki had a great night. I hope I’m on oversize to start the day – tends to make the morn more relaxed. Feels better pushing around a train with some weight on it.
Should be an interesting one. (Aren’t they all?) Kick ass, y’all.
Well, this is awkward…I was attacked by tariffs in my sleep.
I’m now ☠️
🤣☕️🍍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWaB4PXCwFU
🎶🎶
I was killed by the Y2K bug.
You’ve become a pirate?
***YAWN!!!*** Good morning, Sean, Ted’S., U and Ev!
Much too much local weather excitement last night kept me up until about 2 a.m. Happily, Chez GT/TT came through unscathed. It got pretty noisy at times, though.
Glad to hear you’re okay.
Thanks, U! How are you this morning?
Thankfully, now that we’re no longer at the top of a hill we don’t get much weather excitement.
Except that I need to get new snow shovels for next season since I screwed up the aluminum shovel where the end of the driveway tends to ice up.
I’m glad it’s a remote day. The grocery store was fifteen minutes late opening because the person who could sign out the money to get the registers up was late. Thankfully, since I didn’t have to get to the office, this didn’t make me late too.
Ted’S., I’m thinking you might be able to find yourself a great deal on snow shovels this time of year.
That was lucky timing, U! Did they have in stock what you needed for breakfast?
The stock was as expected. Which unfortunately meant the deli hadn’t made any new salads and were sold out. So I had to go for a backup breakfast.
Maybe you should have breakfast materials already in the house so you don’t have to go out first thing in the morning.
No Ted, I need to get myself out of the house, and not have snackables sitting around in the middle of the night.
You don’t have all, or even most of the factors at play.
What did you end up with for Breakfast Plan B?
The prepackaged salads not made in the deli but shipped in from some factory are always in stock. They just have less of everything (no egg, less meat, less cheese, no peppers, no onion, less lettuce). At least they’re cheaper.
Surely you realize that just in time food provision is subject to breakdowns and plan appropriately for those.
A breakdown would be if all the stores were closed and didn’t open.
Grousing does not always indicate a problem. Sometimes it’s an inconvenience.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/lehigh-county/it-was-an-honest-mistake-septic-tank-oil-spill-forces-temporary-evacuation-of-lehigh-county/article_b98278f9-1c19-4b3e-9cd7-5c6ff449fba9.html
Oopsie.
At least someone sounded stoic about it.
suh’ fam
whats goody
Well, the wind is mild, so I get to listen to the patter of rain without fretting about the house.
Its mild (60F) but rainy here. I guess I missed the excitement of spring weather 225 miles SW at home.
We had a rainy day with intermittent thunderstorms from about 8:30am to 7pm yesterday. No damage reported locally (mid-Michigan).
Maybe politicians are storm-repelling? Lansing area seems to miss almost all the severe weather that rolls through.
Great, now I need to haul around a storm-repelling politician in addition to my tiger-repelling rock? Both can be bought but the rock is *way* cheaper 😉
How have I been at work for three hours?!
This place a magical ability to make time fly like F1 Hunt with a saucy stewardess.
(I don’t work with such. However, there’s always talent shopping ’round. Eyes, peeled.)
Do you get many that don’t use the mobility scooters?
That’s just adorable.