Wednesday Morning Links

by | Jun 10, 2020 | Daily Links | 572 comments

No sports.

“Watchu talkin’ ’bout, Miss Scarlett? They cancelled us?”

The first female Senator Rebecca Felton, was born this day. She shares it with first black woman to win an Oscar (who we will talk about in a bit) Hattie McDaniel, writer Saul Bellow, bad driver Prince Philip, actress Judy Garland, defense attorney F Lee Bailey, solid actor Jurgen Prochnow, loved and hated musician Kim Deal, the lovely, lovely, lovely Elizabeth Hurley, hilarious comedian Bill Burr, and baseball player Pokey Reese.

That’s not a bad list. Now on to…the links!

Erasing history continues in Hollywood. What a bunch of spineless assholes.

“Nope, the route to the Far East isn’t down here either.”

Erasing history continues in Virginia. What a bunch of stupid assholes.

Erasing history continues in the UK. Well, not exactly erasing (yet). And it’s not even old enough to be considered history.  So this is more like cancel culture and the idiots eating their own.  All because the woman dared take a biology course and understand it. What a bunch of illiterate assholes.

Remember when this would have been called “selfish”?

I wonder if the same people bitching about the Michigan protests will do the same about this? And vice versa.Although the difference is those protesters in MI left when the building was closing for the day. This is an occupation.

Merriam-Webster is preparing a new dictionary. I guess they can call it “Newspeak Dictionary: First Edition”. ::SMDH::

Some lawmakers actually did a good thing yesterday. It’s a freaking miracle.

L O fucking L

You dumbasses are just now figuring this out? Sorry, city-dwellers. Between this and your reliance on subways…you’re fucked.

Glad these woke companies are finally catching up to redneck places like…Texas. It’s also a celebrated holiday in our house, because it’s Justice Forall Sloopy Juneteenth’s birthday! Oh shit, I wonder if I’ll be accused of cultural appropriation? Will the doctor for not delaying the c-section a few hours? Oh wait, I don’t give a shit.

More wokeness gone crazy. Although it should have been cancelled years ago for glorifying police violence.

Here’s a great song! If you disagree, you’re wrong.

Now get out there and have a great day, friends!

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572 Comments

  1. Chipwooder

    I need to.move the fuck away from Richmond

    • Tonio

      Yeah, I’ve been thinking that, too. Maybe even quit the state.

      • Chipwooder

        If (when?) I do finally skedaddle, it will definitely be out of state. No sense in half measures.

        It’s just truly shocking how rapidly Richmond has devolved into this. Nine years ago, when I was moving back from Florida, I never would have believed this town would start to mimic someplace like Portland.

      • Tulip

        Hi Tonio, how’s the new dog? Does he have a name yet?

      • AlexinCT

        Duck?

    • sloopyinca

      Y’all get down to Texas. It’s a gazillion times better, even if there’s no Rare Olde Times (which also probably sucks now).

      ::pours beer on curb for Martin Creighton and Andy Jennings::

      • Chipwooder

        I haven’t been in a couple of years but last time Rare Olde Times was same as ever.

        Texas is so damned hot.

      • sloopyinca

        That’s good to know. It warms my heart to think of that place I spent so many nights in. I have nothing but love and affection for those people, both my two good friends who have died as well as the rest of the crew.
        Martin was a very close friend of mine. I was at his house two nights before he died. I loved that man and his wife Alsuin. And Andy was a wonderful human being. If you never had the chance to know either of them, you missed out.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        It’s a dry heat.

        /still not acclimated yet

        Seriously though, I don’t miss the humidity. Now’s about the time when my double pane windows would start fogging up on a regular basis in VA.

      • UnCivilServant

        I never believed the ‘Dry Heat’ claim until my trip that stopped in both Florida and Dallas. While Dallas was objectively warmer by the thermometer, I wasn’t drowning in unevaporated sweat like I was in Florida. Now I believe.

      • leon

        Texas? Dry?

        : Laughs in High Desert:

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s a relative metric. Go melt on the Florida coast for a day.

      • R C Dean

        No kidding. The humidity in Tucson yesterday was 4%. Up from 3% the day before.

      • UnCivilServant

        Humidity has dropped from 81% to 59% here.

        Feels so much better.

      • The Last American Hero

        Tuscon weather reports a 33% increase in humidity due to CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!

      • Rhywun

        I believe it. We often get “dry heat” in NYC (it was 89 yesterday) in June before hell settles in for July and August.

      • UnCivilServant

        In the upstate swamps where I grew up, heat and humidity came hand in hand.

      • Rhywun

        (where “dry” is anything less than 50% humidity…)

      • Chipwooder

        I’ve only spent much time in Texas once, Houston region a few years ago, but that was not a dry heat.

      • Jarflax

        Houston in the summer is awful and Texas is way too populist for my taste, I say we form Libertopia in by right of conquest in Provence.

      • Incentives Matter

        Nobody’s ever conquered Provence. Even the French can’t do it. The mistral alone drives people mad.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Rare is still operational as far as I know (prior to shut down). The place was bought out by a younger guy and the inside was fixed up. Otherwise it remains the same. It really is a great spot.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      Yeah the city has made a Great Leap Forward even since I moved to RVA four years ago.

      Outside the city things are still fairly normal, for now. I work out in Powhatan, which reminds me of Oklahoma.

  2. Count Potato

    “No sports.”

    *throws shit*

    • Nephilium

      And now, with the sports Sportsbot 5000.

  3. Nephilium

    Stand in the corner of shame! Or you know… take the stairs (assuming no high-rises).

    • UnCivilServant

      Full building evac drill from the 36th floor was fun…

      /sarc

      • Nephilium

        One of the buildings I worked in was only two floors. The elevator was the bottleneck during shift changes. There was one elevator, and three different sets of stairs you could take up.

      • UnCivilServant

        One of my pet peeves is seeing people who are clearly fit enough to take the stairs (stairwells are unlocked on my office) taking the elevator from the 2nd floor to the 1st.

      • Rhywun

        My old company’s HQ – 18 floors – had signs on every floor nagging encouraging us to use the stairs.

  4. Count Potato

    Vivien Leigh?

    Would.

    • Chipwooder

      Oh yeah

    • sloopyinca

      Get in line.

      No seriously, there was probably a line. She was a freak.

    • Ted S.

      She was crazy.

      • Galt1138

        One of the few I’d consider changing my “don’t stick it in crazy” rule for, assuming, a) she wasn’t more than a pile of bones now, b) I wasn’t happily married.

    • Idle Hands

      ugh yes.

  5. Count Potato

    “What a bunch of stupid assholes.”

    I’m noticing a trend.

    • SDF-7

      What a bunch of observant…

  6. robc

    Pokey Reese was the 12th best baseball player to be on this date, although the only one to play a game in the last 25 years.

    Ken Singleton and Floyd Bannister are 1-2 in WAR for today’s birthdays. Just below Reese in 13th is Al Albuquerque, which is an even better name than Pokey.

    • Chipwooder

      Al Albuquerque was my favorite Mike Francesa gaffe

  7. leon

    Year down the statues of everyone. Statues are racism.

    • Nephilium

      Bronze statues matter?

      • Festus

        Bronze statues of Color, you racist shit-monger!

      • Trigger Hippie

        Dem copper statues been misegenated wit tin!

    • Tonio

      I’d be happy for the taxpayer-funded nonrepresentational statues to go, too. The city bought some iron circles they claim are artwork. I bet the artist laughed all the way to the bank…

      • UnCivilServant

        I’d be even happier if those scrap piles are the only ones to go.

      • Nephilium

        Sure… just follow in the footsteps of Cleveland.

    • leon

      Though I guess it still means African countries can be racist. They’ll need to fix for that loophole.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Some of the most racist comments I’ve ever heard against african americans has come by way of continental Africans. A lot of references about the corrupted blood of the “Mud People”, due to the vast mixing with whites.

      • Viking1865

        I was at a party once, and a black chick was yelling at a Somalian chick about some bullshit. Somalian girl just had this absolutely snobby royal type look. Looked right down on her and said “I do not care what slaves think of me.”

        Violence ensued.

      • R C Dean

        “My ancestors probably sold your ancestors to pick cotton on a plantation.”

      • Jarflax

        My father used to rant about Clinton apologizing for slavery on that trip to Senegal. He was effectively apologizing to the descendants of people who sold us the slaves. This whole idea of inherited guilt is so pernicious and so utterly stupid.

    • AlexinCT

      What was Heinlein’s quote history (not knowing it) again?

  8. leon

    Well there you go. Racism really is only when white people do it. The dictionary says so.

    • Chipwooder

      Dictionaries are now written to satisfy the demands of recent graduates of mediocre schools, it seems

      • Suthenboy

        Mediocre? The would have to stop indoctrinating and brainwashing and start actually teaching to rise to mediocre.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

        Our leaders, which in and of themselves are mediocre at best,have opted to rig the system to create a whole bunch of morons to keep their rackets and ineptitude from being called out, and the chickens are now coming home to roost.

    • WTF

      She was losing arguments because the things she was claiming are racist don’t actually fit the definition of racism. So she got Merriam Webster to cave to wokeness and redefine it to suit her agenda.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        If you control the language, you control the debate.

        When there is no word for institutionalized racism as we have known it, you can’t use it as an coutner-example anymore.

      • zwak

        I disagree with this. The concept defines the word, and as long as people understand that institutional racism exists, they will find a way to describe it. Just blotting a few letters out of a book no one looks at anymore will not destroy an idea.

        But, only as long as people understand that the concept exists.

    • invisible finger

      Was playing Words With Friends last night. The game would not allow me to play SQUAW.

      • Idle Hands

        What about Warren?

    • AlexinCT

      Racism is any attempt to force some prog idiot to actually explain whatever stupid shit they are proposing or up to using logic & facts rather than appeal to emotion (envy/anger) and stupidity.

  9. Count Potato

    “This is an occupation.”

    I’s also getting zero news coverage.

    • sloopyinca

      Neither is the “autonomous zone” thing where they’ve forcibly stolen the property on six city blocks.
      Seriously. I googled it to find a news story and literally the only things that show up are the website the land thieves have set up, some puff piece by a lefty rag, and a few reddit pieces.

      News media are dead.

      • sloopyinca

        My goal was to contrast it with the Malheur coverage. My attempted news search confirmed the difference.

      • Chipwooder

        How utterly unsurprising that the same alleged journalists who were baying for blood about Malheur have absolutely nothing to say about this. Whatever one thinks of the Bundys, they were occupying uninhabited land. What of the residents of the “autonomous zone” who have no interest in a reenactment of the October Revolution – do they get a say in the matter? Are they allowed to oppose the Marxist shitbags holding them hostage?

      • Viking1865

        The urban left, I have noticed, has this strange fetish for Our Public Lands. As with so many things, they are completely ignorant of what public land is for. They seem to believe that public land is to be set aside and never ever used for anything, ever except for the kind of outdoor recreation urban leftists think is ok. Travel by foot or muscle power, no gasoline. No forestry or husbandry. Obviously no heavy extraction or hunting. Double Plus Bad.

        Progressivism is a religion, public lands are a sacred site, to only be worshiped in approved fashion.

      • Count Potato

        I noticed the same thing.

        Yesterday, I said if it was some right-wing group there would be non-stop coverage.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Waco and Ruby Ridge come to mind, and they’re not even as egregious as this.

      • sloopyinca

        Not as egregious? Uh, they weren’t occupations. Those people in Waco and Ruby Ridge owned the land they were on.

      • Tonio

        Heinlein was once again prescient. “I Will Fear No Evil” mentioned “abandoned areas” and employers providing armored bus service to employees who lived in those areas.

      • Jarflax

        But it was a dog whistle for transphobia because the hero(ine) only changed sex by acquiring an XX body and then was rejected!

      • robc

        I was thinking if I owned an office in the 6 block area, I would put together a militia force to take back the land. Or, you know, leave Seattle.

        Option 2 is probably better.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        News media are dead providing active cover for revolutionaries, and should be treated as such.

      • EvilSheldon

        Would anyone else like to chip in on sending the Seattle Autonomous Zone a 55-gallon drum of lube?

      • Jarflax

        Only if your definition of lube includes the other jellied petroleum product.

      • BakedPenguin

        Napalm?

    • Suthenboy

      At some point there will be blood. I wonder if that will get any coverage.

    • Festus

      Eh, it will peter out as the Deadening lifts. People want to surf and ride jet-skis, fish and camp, visit theme parks and generally kick up their heels. They blew their load too soon and the left is gonna be like Jennifer Jason Leigh. “Is that all there is?”

      • Tonio

        I don’t think of Antifa members doing any of those things except maybe camping. They always present as poor, smelly and fanatical.

      • Festus

        “That’s tight!”

      • EvilSheldon

        I get the same impression. Not much in the way of hobbies or outside interests.

      • Atanarjuat

        If Gavin McInnes is telling the truth, it’s the kids of college professors who recruit drug addicts, orphans, homeless, etc to do the dirty work.

      • Drake

        I’ve similar from other sources. They really are just pawns. The organizers would be delighted to dance in their blood if cops or white property owners gunned them down.

      • bacon-magic

        ^
        Their hobbies are making sure the rest of us can’t enjoy our hobbies.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Kshama Sawant is a straight up commie.

      My only comfort is that they’re going to try to levy a special tax on Amazon and Bezos will leave the city. Their golden goose will die and the city with it.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Seattle going the way of Detroit? Sad but no doubt it’s already moving in that direction.

      • The Last American Hero

        It won’t go full Detroit due to the magnificent scenery and the tech wealth in the adjacent suburbs, but it will definitely be taken down a few pegs. People forget that in the pre-Microsoft 80’s the economy was dependent on Weyerhauser and Boeing and was miserable when things were slow.

  10. Festus

    New City ordinance – “Only those that are able to rub their belly and pat their head at the same time are allowed on this ride”. I’m about done with this shit.

  11. Count Potato

    “Peter Sokolowski, editor at large at Merriam-Webster, said in an emailed statement to The Associated Press that the dictionary’s second definition is “divided to express, first, explicit institutional bias against people because of their race, and, second, a broader implicit bias that can also result in an asymmetrical power structure.”

    How many polacks does it take to ruin a dictionary?

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      James Lindsay et als’ predictions coming true, one by one, and even surpassing them in sheer absurdity.

  12. Suthenboy

    I cant help but think we are on the brink of something awful.

    Is it too early to start drinking…or too late?

    • Festus

      Pace yourself, Friend. It’s going to get stupider.

    • Sean

      It’s not just you.

      I’ve got a very uneasy feeling about this summer. The left can’t control their foot soldiers very well and they are very emboldened right now.

      • Festus

        It all depends upon how the other assholes react. If the Larpers from the right stand down everyone walks away. If not? Who the fuck knows.

      • Stillhunter

        Serious question. Who stops them? It won’t be the press. It won’t be the politicians. Right now they have free reign and nobody appears ready to be the adult in the room.

        We’ve already established that these people won’t just get bored and quit. They have nothing else to do and this is what they’ve been training in their mother’s basement for their whole lives.

        I fear the urban centers are lost for the near term. I don’t think they’ll get outside there for any sustained nonsense though. The only thing that can stop them is violence, or implicit threat of violence as happens when they leave their safe spaces in the urban centers.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Long Hot Summer incoming. We’re just getting started.

  13. leon

    Was watching some Hogan’s heroes yesterday and was appalled to see a scene where Hogan and crew were in blackface.

    • UnCivilServant

      Was it blackface, or just nighttime camo?

      • leon

        I don’t know what that is, but it sounds like an excuse that comes from a place of privlidge. You need to stop being so fragile.

      • UnCivilServant

        Ooo, a projector, wonder if we can change the film to something entertaining.

        *Tries to shove VHS tape down Leon’s throat*

    • Rhywun

      I’ll take “shows that could never be made today” for $500, Alex.

      • leon

        Maybe if you did a gender swap.

      • Gdragon

        Crane would have been out for a “me too” before he even had a chance to get the blackface on

    • Idle Hands

      that show was a comedy that took place 20 years after the holocaust. Imagine the butthurt right now if someone made a comedy right now about 9/11.

      • Viking1865

        Klink was played by a Jewish man who fled the Nazis too.

      • grrizzly

        Was a comedy about the Holocaust filmed in Israel in 1965? The Holocaust wasn’t America’s tragedy.

      • The Last American Hero

        The comedy would be about prisoners in Gitmo outwitting their foolish captors who shit on their rights while “defending freedom”.

  14. JD is in the United Karendom

    Mornin’ Sloop and the rest of all o’ y’alls Glibertarians.

    I’m still trying to process Festus’ highly condensed recounting of his sordid two decades fucking the same family, sort of. Top shelf tales from the Kanuckistani King of Kuckoldry. KKK? Uh oh! Kanuckistani Fucking Champion? Finger lickin’ good.

    • Festus

      It was weird and I didn’t realize until later. It’s not like we grew up in the holler. She has four sisters and they all wanted to take a swipe at me. I have no idea what happened behind closed doors in their household but it probably wasn’t very good.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Let me see if I can apply some of the stuff I’ve learned from Glibs to this situation:

        You epaliered their family tree.

      • Festus

        Heh. It wasn’t a brag or a boast. It was just something strange that happened. I was stuck in the middle. Strange people do strange fucking things.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        I’m imagining a chart on the wall in the family home with a little Festus face for each time each sibling got down and dirty with you, and a blank row for the brother :'(

      • bacon-magic

        Maybe the loser of Uno that night had to do Festus.

  15. Rebel Scum

    ‘Gone with the Wind’ pulled from HBO Max until it can return with ‘historical context’

    I’m not sure what context is missing, though I suspect they mean that not every southern white person is portrayed as evil in it.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Pretty much.

    • Chipwooder

      It will return when it can be reformatted like VH1’s old pop-up videos, with text bubbles to helpfully explain to viewers why everything they’re watching is doubleplusungood.

      • Nephilium

        So there’s a chance that Song of the South will come back?

        I remember going to see it in the theater with my younger sister when we were kids. It must have been the 1986 release.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      This is where I think I went wrong in not keeping hard copies of films and TV shows that I like because now that I rely on streaming services, what’s available to me is all subject to the zealous reinterpretation, censorship, whims, etc, of the providers, all of whom have been entirely taken over by the woke virus.

      While you still can (everyone), and preferably from an old DVD release, watch ‘The Drumhead’ from season 4 of Star Trek: The Next Generation>/em>. It was prescient in ways unthinkable.

      • Rhywun

        That scene where Picard tells that bitch off does often come to mind in these trying times. Good recommendation.

      • Ted S.

        Jean Simmons. Excellent actress.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        You can shout that out loud!

    • Idle Hands

      That’s one of my favorite movies. You’d think feminists would love that one all the men are basically portrayed as useless, crazy, drunk or stupid besides Clark Gable. This women dismissed as naive and silly, drags everyone around her through what is a literal societal apocalypse through wit, guile and stone cold balls. Is she flawed yes. Also the moral center of the movie is a black woman who won an oscar for her role.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Hey, the filmmakers changed the N-words in the novel to “slave” (and wrote out two of Scarlett’s children, by the by).

      • sloopyinca

        So her other kids got Tom Bombadill’d?

        ::seethes in anger::

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        I had to look that up, not being a Tolkienist. One kid by each husband, IIRC.

      • sloopyinca

        Oh, well then it’s different because Tom Bombadill came to be when somebody fucked a tree or something.

      • bacon-magic

        I was mad that Bombadill didn’t get in the movies…it was one of the parts that stuck out the most in the book for me.

      • The Last American Hero

        Bombadil was a maiar and present at the creation of the world. He took up residence in Middle Earth and has been in that locale since before the reshaping of the world. The romance with Goldberry came later.

    • Agent Cooper

      Who in the fuck doesn’t know the context of GWTW out of the subset of people who will watch it?

      • Mojeaux

        I briefly touched on slavery in my pirate book ~1780. My heroine had been the ship’s master on a slave ship because it was the only ship that would hire her, but as soon as she took control of the ship, she didn’t traffic in slaves. She DID have a laissez fair attitude about it, though, because her territory was the Barbary Coast. That made it palatable.

        Besides the fact that I do not like the Civil War era of history as a simple matter of interest, I would not write a Civil War-era romance if my fingernails were systematically pulled from their beds.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        I love the part where Rhett is sharpening his scythe in anticipation of battling the bluebellies.

  16. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Let’s get back to our regularly scheduled insanity.

    SJWednesday: You Sound Stupid

    During the course of 2016, I saw more ableist slurs tossed around than ever before.

    From casual conversation to mass media broadcasts, people are referring to one another in the most dehumanizing ways possible – and throwing disabled people under the bus in the process.

    I feel exhausted because it seems like no one is above it. Some of the most consistent advocates I know have regularly referred to current events as “crazy” and what have you.

    It hurts because it feels like a betrayal every time.

    That said, I understand how difficult it can be to change the way you speak. It’s extremely difficult for me personally as a neuroatypical person. I still make mistakes in instances where I know better.

    What’s upsetting to me is when people defend the ableist language that they use, or refuse to fully consider the possibility that they should change.

    One word in particular that I have encountered some resistance around is the word “stupid.” Numerous people either don’t understand why this word is ableist, or think that the value of the word supersedes the harm it causes to disabled communities.

    This resistance is oddly pervasive.

    • Count Potato

      That’s retarded.

    • WTF

      Stupid crazy person objects to people drawing attention to her being stupid and crazy.

    • Rebel Scum

      This resistance is oddly pervasive.

      You don’t get to police my speech, you stupid person that is, in fact, stupid.

    • Jarflax

      What a dumb take, the writer must be blind to the utility of words to propose such a retarded crippling of our language. And for such a stupid reason, to paralyze and deform ableism.

    • gbob

      What a faggot moron.

  17. Rufus the Monocled

    Guys. We’ve officially lost the culture wars.

    Man, what a bunch of depressing links.

    • leon

      Y’all keep declaring that we’ve lost the culture war. Either get over it, or admit you were wrong the last 400 times.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        /wipes tear. Soft heave.

        What do you mean?

      • leon

        Just that everyone always thinks they are losing and that the other side is a monolith.

        Listen to any lefty and they’ll complain that, the problem is to much of the left likes infighting and the right is always united around a cause, and that’s why the right wins.

        When it comes to politics people always record their loses and write off their wins as the new status quo. It’s just Maslows, once you reach a political goal, immediately a new one comes in to fill it’s place.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        /straightens up.

        Sooo, we lost?

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I agree that the ratchet appears to only be turning in one direction.

        Where are the Kulturkampf victories of anyone besides the Left over the last few months?

      • Viking1865

        “the right is always united around a cause, and that’s why the right wins.”

        They say that, but like so much of what they say, its a lie that has zero connection with reality.

        The Right is not winning, the right is losing, because every time “the right” gets in power they do nothing with it. Because they’re just the controlled opposition.

      • leon

        And what i’m saying is that what you’re saying is the exact same thing a leftist would say but in the other direction. And they’ll list off a host of issues where the democrats in congress did nothing.

        For example: Gun Control, Environment, deregulation, Union power

        And many of those they would be correct that they have been loosing on. Unions and Guns are big areas where the left has been loosing.

      • Jarflax

        Except that the culture war is not fought in the political arena. It is fought in the arts and education and each generation since Roosevelt has been less familiar with our cultural myths than the last. And the new myths are Red and Green, not Red White and Blue.

      • Viking1865

        I’d argue that with three of those things, the Left has already won. The leftists are complaining because the battered bleeding body of their enemies is still moaning in agony.

        Environment is 100% a win. Its an American civic religion. Reduce Reuse Recycle. Littering is an actual crime. The EPA has essentially unlimited power. Yeah, they want a carbon tax, but in terms of the traditional environmentalism of the 20th century, they won the war.

        Deregulation. There’s more and more regulation every year. That’s my thing with the left: they act like government is shrinking and getting less powerful, and that’s just the opposite of reality. It never stops growing. Ever.

        https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/reg-stats

        Unions. We’re all union workers. Minimum wage. Social Security. FMLA. 40 hour workweek. EEOC. OSHA. Again, they won the war.

        Hell, even on guns the only thing the Right has managed to do is stop Leviathan. No one is repealing the Hughes Amendment, no one is repealing NFA 1934 or GCA 1968. It’s not happening. Then you get into their insidious red flag bullshit that has become accepted as a “centrist good government” thing. I wouldn’t say the Left is losing on guns so much as they are federally stalemated. They sure as hell aren’t losing on guns in Virginia.

      • blackjack

        Yeah, some of us don’t live in Utah. The right is losing and has been for 100 years or more. All of your examples are things which have gotten way worse. The few minor victories have paled next to the giant strides the authoritarians have made.

      • leon

        And not all of us live in New York. Gun rights weren’t even incorporated 20 years ago. Unions could forcibly take your money for political causes up until this decade.

        I’m not saying everything is rosy and great. I’m saying that everyone who is a perma-pessimist is refusing to take into account actual wins, and falling into a trap. There is plenty to be happy and plenty to be upset about, but it is impossible for the world that the right wing pessimists and the world that the left wing pessimists present to both be true.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Guys.

      Man,

      Cancel Rufus!

    • R C Dean

      So, if we’re done nancing around with culture wars, is it time for the shooting war now?

      • Jarflax

        To most of my friends shooting IS culture.

    • Idle Hands

      they are expending all the capital they have in an election year and eating themselves at an absolutely unsustainable rate. It’s depressing but it just as likely they are flailing about in a death throe as it is we are on the throes of a Maoist revolution. Ten years from now people will look back at this absolutely silly time of retardation and shake their head. They are self defeating and once the old guard of white libs dies off there is absolutely no competent leadership and it will plunge into chaos.

    • zwak

      I don’t think we did though. If liberty had truly lost the culture wars, the statists would not be screaming and thrashing so hard. No, its that they didn’t win the wars and they know time is running short.

      Yes, they might win this battle, but that Trump is even up on the throne is ample evidence that even with a full court press the don’t decide things.

  18. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Never Let A Manufactured Crisis Go To Waste

    The anti-racist uprising in the United States over the brutal murder of George Floyd reopens a strategic question: How do we link the struggle against racism with the struggle against capitalist exploitation? This article draws the counterpoint between the theories of intersectionality and Marxism.

    • sloopyinca

      They’re right, to a degree: Under Marxism, everybody is treated equally like shit and starves as a result. It does not discriminate.

    • Overt

      This has LONG been a discussion in the Socialist circles. There are 5-8 year old articles in Socialist and Workers magazines talking about how lamentable it was that Obama was leading the charge with BLM back then. The worst thing they could imagine was that black people would learn to affect change WITHIN the system. They fretted about how to convince the black man that his only hope was to overthrow the capitalists.

      What is hilarious about this whole thing is that what they feared- that capitalism would be used to keep the black man satiated and in check- is exactly what the REAL communists in China and Vietnam have been doing for the past 20 years.

    • Rhywun

      How do we link the struggle against racism with the struggle against capitalist exploitation?

      Um. That is BLM’s explicit goal. And if you look at the signs being held up at these protests, you will see ample evidence of it.

    • Rebel Scum

      BLM is already doing this because BLM is an explicitly marxist org that cares not for black people.

  19. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: I Thought Loot Boxes Were Tools Of Capitalist Pigs

    Looting is a natural response to the unnatural and inhuman society of commodity abundance. It instantly undermines the commodity as such, and it also exposes what the commodity ultimately implies: the army, the police and the other specialized detachments of the state’s monopoly of armed violence. What is a policeman? He is the active servant of the commodity, the man in complete submission to the commodity, whose job it is to ensure that a given product of human labor remains a commodity, with the magical property of having to be paid for, instead of becoming a mere refrigerator or rifle — a passive, inanimate object, subject to anyone who comes along to make use of it. In rejecting the humiliation of being subject to police, black people are at the same time rejecting the humiliation of being subject to commodities.

    • sloopyinca

      Word salad

      • TARDIS

        Yup. And slathered in ‘tard dressing.

      • Jarflax

        Now hang on a second! I want to move to the land of naturally occurring rifles passively waiting for me to come along and pluck them from the… (Do rifles grow on vines? Bushes? Do they emerge like field stones after a frost?)

      • UnCivilServant

        Rifles grow behind blades of Grass. They are also not plants, as they migrate to other states to engage in shootings. The Indiana Black Rifle is known for it’s spectacularly long distance treks. If you look carefully, you can find the empty egg casings. These are roughly cylindrical, and most are golden in color, though other colors are known to exist, particularly among shotgun species.

    • Suthenboy

      The poverty that socialism produces is not the result of flaws in the system. It is not a mistake.
      Poverty is the deliberate, calculated goal.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Hertz has been a dog for fifteen years or more.

      They spun out their construction equipment rental division a few years ago to raise some cash and that company is in the shitter as well.

      • Chipwooder

        Back in the day, when I was in that business, Hertz Rental was crap. They were propped up by cutting prices constantly and having the parent company absorb the losses.

        It’s crazy how equipment rental is now basically just United and Sunbelt. NES, Neff, Nations, RSC, Prime Equipment, etc all long gone now, gobbled up by the two behemoths.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      They suffer from the same problem that many companies do, just more acutely. They’re a car company, not a financial institution. The equity firms have been draining that company to a husk.

      • robc

        Yes, same thing that happened to Sears.

      • robc

        In some ways, its the same plot as “Other People’s Money”, only Larry the Liquidator was honest about it.

      • robc

        The honesty being putting his own money on the line, buying the company and becoming a shareholder, instead of the modern version of playing derivative games to suck the money out at the cost of the shareholders.

    • leon

      People wanted racial tensions, so now they get it.

    • WTF

      The worst part of that story is people getting fired for expressing unpopular political opinions on their own time.

      • Festus

        Obama united the country.

      • Rhywun

        Not to mention the round-the-clock police protection they’re going to need for the rest of their lives.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      This is the kind of retarded shit that plays right into the hands of the intersectionalist indentarian cultists. It’s like it’s just acquiescing to playing the stupid identity game and fighting the #culturewar on their terms rather than take a step back and think objectively about how stupid that is. I realise to a certain extent we’re all damned and painted with that brush anyway, (we being people who are immune to the wokeness virus), but this just feeds the flames.

    • Idle Hands

      so glad the media is finally able to find the bad actors responsible for the looting and wholly representative of the entire conservative movement.

    • Suthenboy

      Initially when I read that headline I thought ‘those guys are idiots’, then I saw the video.
      The cap on backwards, dressed like dingy teenagers….I had to change my mind.

    • Rebel Scum

      All Lives Matter

      Get a load of these racists.

    • l0b0t

      I’ve been purposefully avoiding news. This is the first time I’ve seen or heard any Floyd Funeral stuff. HOLY MACKEREL! That gold coffin AND Rev. Al?!?

  20. Overt

    Good Morning, y’all.

    Last night I was watching Veronica Mars with my wife and eldest daughter. It was one of the last episodes in their third season, and one of the plots was the disappearance of a wealthy heiress. She was your typical gay, liberal trust fund baby. She spread her money around generously. She was running her family company, in a “Socially responsible way.” And get this, her evil TOTALLY NOT A CONSERVATIVE CAPITALIST brother was trying to take away the company so that they could, GASP, start selling products sourced in Asia.

    So, as of 2003, the Liberal, socially responsible thing to do was for companies to sell Made in the USA products. Outsourcing that shit to Asia was considered the work of greedy, heartless bastards.

    It is amazing what one orange man will do to a cause.

    • Festus

      So sick of this. The only news that I consume is the local Paper’s feed (because I need to know when streets are shut down for paving etc.) the CBC because it’s on the radio as I drive to work and Glibs. CBC is infuriating. Everything “Indigenous” all the time. The local rag uses the AP and The Washington Post as their primary sources. The Editor is a lefty shill that shuts down the comments when he gets his ass handed to him by the red necks. Fun times.

    • PBRstreetgang

      In a nearly amazing coincidence, I was watching Veronica Mars with my wife and 11 year old daughter last night also. We’re only Season 1 the episode with Adam Scott as a pervy teacher. I remember the episode you’re talking about though. 2003 feels like its 100 years ago.

      • Overt

        Even though VMars comes on heavy with the liberal schlock some times, it at least tried to be a little nuanced.

        The first season is really an examination of how there are all these class divides, but at the end of the day it is the personal relationships that matter. Veronica and Lilly. Lilly and Aaron Echols. Veronica’s Mom and Mr Kane. These class divides try to define how everything SHOULD work, but pretty much every episode is about how they mix.

        The second season is very interesting to me, because the villain is not a typical privileged mustache twirler. And even though by the third season they started to lose their way, they tackle the whole greek fraternity/date rape thing and seem to find room to accept that Frats are full of sex-crazed boys and that doesn’t make them all rapists.

      • PBRstreetgang

        S3 is something of a mess, especially getting away from the single episode small mysteries, while keeping the full season arcs. I definitely agree about the first two seasons, the cross-class focus was usually done pretty well. One of my all time favorite shows.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I can’t believe people even bother to watch shows and movies.

      Can’t you see they’re fricken using the medium to lecture, if not, indoctrinate?

      It’s right there in the script and plot. Hello.

      Apparently, I have to ‘decolonize’ my book shelves.

      I guess have to replace it with Bomani Jones’ version of The Decline And Fall of the Roman Empire’ and a revised version of ‘The Odyssey’ to reflect woke standards edited by Sad Beard.

      The Idiocracy is here.

  21. Trigger Hippie

    I use to rage watch COPS while my buddies just chuckled. “Better him than me, coulda been me last night, hehehe.”

    I’d yell at them for missing the point and storm off.

    • cyto

      I sincerely thought that COPS had been cancelled like.. Ida know… 15 years ago?

  22. R C Dean

    Following up on our recent convo about shotgun ammo, and the difficulty of acquiring such in these uncertain times.

    I ordered “250 Rounds of 2-3/4″ 12ga Ammo by Federal LE – 00 Buck“ from BulkAmmo.com last night. Looked like they had quite a bit in stock, so if you’ve been looking, now’s your chance.

    • bacon-magic

      Thanks.

    • EvilSheldon

      Nice find, dude. That’s the good stuff. I’m placing my own order right now.

      • R C Dean

        Showed up on that armsbot website. Oddly, when I clicked trhough from there, it said “out of stock”, but when I went straight infrom BulkAmmo, it said some ridiculous number of cases – nearly 70.

        And yes, this was last night deep into cocktail “hour”, so I was drunkshopping for ammo.

    • Mad Scientist

      Mexican Sharpshooter pointed me to this helpful bot yesterday.

      • R C Dean

        Couldn’t remember the name of the one he pointed to, and while I was fishing around for it, ran into armsbot. I about fell over when it said the good stuff was in stock at BulkAmmo, clicked through and it said “out of stock”, had a sad, decided to see what they had in stock with a search, and bam, there it was in stock.

        An emotional rollercoaster ride, is what it was.

  23. tarran

    A quick question for the PTB; It’s been a week since I submitted my article on Anti-Fa using the submission form off the top menu, and I’ve heard nothing. Did it get lost in the ether? If not, do you guys ever plan on publishing it?

    • sloopyinca

      I’ll let the people who control that know and somebody will get on it. I can barely tie my own shoes and do morning links. There are more skilled people to manage that stuff.

    • sloopyinca

      Ok, I got word that nothing is in that email inbox since May 9. Can you send it in again?

      • sloopyinca

        But send it to website@ instead of the submissions email.

      • sloopyinca

        I don’t know. I think maybe it just got deleted accidentally. I was told to just ask you politely to resend it but to that email address so the person who has the power (SP), can expedite it.

      • tarran

        Thanks, sloopy. I just sent it in.

        The formatting is a little messed up perhaps since I was using my cell phone to do it.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And long as it’s not video in portrait mode.

        *glares*

  24. UnCivilServant

    *looks at outlook calendar*

    *headdesk*

    Meetings until Noon, then I have to train the new guy on issuing and installing internal SSL certs.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      White women suck, but not in the good way.

  25. Rebel Scum

    The Christopher Columbus statue was torn down by protesters in downtown Richmond Tuesday night.

    It happened around 9 p.m. at Byrd park, following a peaceful demonstration outside of the statue in honor of indigenous people.

    So you are saying that they were mostly peaceful as they peacefully destroyed property.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Peaceful people protested the statue, and then totally by coincidence, some (likely at-right) hooligans came in right after the peaceful protest and tore the statue down for completely unknowable reasons.

    • Chipwooder

      “Peaceful” has become a meaningless word.

    • sloopyinca

      Wait till they hear about the guy the park is named after and how he treated slaves and women.

      That park will be renamed within a week. Mark my words.

      • AlmightyJB

        Evidently the #metoo movement hasn’t heard about the Kennedy’s either.

      • Festus

        “Ho Chi Minh Peace Park” or the like, I’m sure… “Jane Fonda Boulevard” coming to town near you.

      • invisible finger

        At least names like that help guide me in which places to avoid.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Just change the y to an i.

      • sloopyinca

        Virginia is about to have an epic bout of renaming everything in the state. The list of historical people places in the state are named after consists almost entirely of slaveowners.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah they’ll have to rename Powhatan.

        Oh wait…..not those kind of slaveowners.

      • leon

        Slavery only came to the americas when the white man (who invented slavery) brought it here. It is well known that Racist Vikings introduced slavery around the world.

      • sloopyinca

        Botetourt County—bad (slavery-colonialism)
        Roanoke—bad (colonialism)
        Lynchburg—bad (slavery-lynchjng)
        Jefferson County—bad (slavery)

        Washington & Lee—bad (slavery-secession)
        Wythe County—bad (slavery)
        Rockingham Co—bad (slavery)

        Shit, they may need to change the name of the whole fucking state, since Queen Elizabeth allowed slavery.

      • sloopyinca

        How has this insanity not hit New York yet? The place is named after a slave trader.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I agree that the Great Awokening in Virginia is going to get very stupid, very quickly.

  26. leon

    “On Twitter, CodePink wrote: “Without the police, the zone has turned into a peaceful George Floyd memorial filled with art, positivity, & love.””

    Yeah, but I know what you call peaceful…

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Just wait until the purges start.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      So….Facebook will fall celebrities and people who celebrate and defend the WHO, right?

      After all, the original source came from the WHO.

      Pretty amazing how people actually still think this virus is what they thought it is despite the mountains of evidence and information we’ve learned since March.

      I know you have to herd sheep but I didn’t realize they’re stubborn?

      Sam and Ralph lessons didn’t show that.

    • Nephilium

      The original source for the rarity of asymptomatic spreaders was a WHO official, who later “clarified” the statement.

      • WTF

        Of course the “clarification” was that the lack of asymptomatic transmission came from “only a few studies” but that the models are predicated on asymptomatic transmission, so we’re not really sure yet.
        In other words, the data doesn’t agree with the models, so therefore we still have some doubt.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Once again WHO staff say something that’s technically correct but easily misinterpreted by the media. Gee, i wonder why that is? Couldn’t be active misinformation by the the Chinese controlled puppet agency…

    • The Other Kevin

      Mrs. TOK posted that same article and had it removed by fact checkers. I know that just because something was reported by multiple media outlets doesn’t make it true, but in this case, the story was “The WHO said this” which I would be likely to be true.

    • Overt

      Someone called that place the #AutoZone. Wouldn’t it be awesome if this all culminated in the Antifa types creating their Autozone in seattle to replace the Autozone they smashed up in MN when this was all starting? HISTORY RHYMES, PEOPLE! George Lucas told me!

  27. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    It’s a perfect song, actually. I loved it the first time I heard it when I was a wee yeti and I still love it today.

    What I don’t love is our fucked up world. My son received an email from his college yesterday promoting this retardation.

    Our responsibility starts with our role in society. In academia, our thoughts and words turn into new ways of knowing. Our research papers turn into media releases, books and legislation that reinforce anti-Black narratives. In STEM, we create technologies that affect every part of our society and are routinely weaponized against Black people.

    What the everloving fuck does that mean? I was under the impression that STEM was going to save the (apparently) agency-less black children.

    Bah.

    Anyway, I hope you all can do your part to bring liberty to the masses.

    Just kidding. I hope you can keep your heads down and not attract the attention of the mob!

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Wow.

    • Festus

      Smile and wave, Tundra. Just smile and wave…

    • PBRstreetgang

      What college, so that my 10th grader never applies to it?

      • leon

        [lists every college in the country]

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Hope you’re saving up for Hillsdale.

      • Tundra

        Bad news. This is a small engineering college that, until this, was the least woke I had come across.

      • PBRstreetgang

        Maybe trade school. HVAC repair, electricians, plumber. We’ll always need them.

      • Count Potato

        Not without electricity and running water.

      • PBRstreetgang

        Fair point. Gunsmithing then?

    • Q Continuum

      “In STEM, we create technologies that affect every part of our society and are routinely weaponized against Black people.”

      Huh. Sure seems to me like one of the those creations (the internet) is being weaponized against everyone else (which includes lots of blacks) on behalf on an insane cult.

      And this from my alma mater, how disappointing. No more checks from me I guess.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I guess they are referring to Ring doorbells sharing video with the police…is there anything else?

      • Q Continuum

        BT Dub: When I drive across a bridge, my concern about whether it will collapse is greatly outweighed by concern over if the designers included enough PoC and race-conscious wypipo.

      • Viking1865

        That pedestrian bridge in Florida that collapsed was designed by a Woke Engineering Firm.

        But I’m sure its shoddy design was just a coincidence.

    • Rhywun

      This “anti STEM” business is some dangerously stupid horseshit. I would not be surprised if it’s funded directly by the CCP with one hand while they’re busy stealing our IP with the other all while laughing their asses off.

      Is it too late to pull your kid out of that intellectually bankrupt school…?

      • Tundra

        To go where?

        Nah, it’s a good school. It’s part of the CO system, though, so I’m sure the marching orders came from up high. My kids are no strangers to lefty bullshit. They will be fine.

    • Overt

      There is no fucking way that this isn’t the work of Russia or China or some sort of Russo-Sino alliance.

      I am reminded of these comparisons of the average Roman soldier during the height of the empire, vs its end. By the end, swords had been replaced with spears. Citizens had been replaced with non citizens. The people in Rome sat behind walls oblivious that barbarians were cutting off their trade with the rest of the world. They had literally rejected all the values that had made Rome what it was.

      I don’t think that the US is Rome- I wouldn’t want us to be. But it is clear that we are rejecting the very things that a country must have to survive. How will this country operate when no one knows how to build anything and all we can do is pile on hate for the people who grow our food or wrote something more than 10 years ago?

      • gbob

        Well, the Roman Empire lasted, at least in the east, untll 1453, so that’s a pretty good run.

        If we’re talking the western half, I dont believe that it’s fair to say that the power of trade shifted to the eastern half. Roman citizens, however, still served in the military. The percentage of land owners in the military remained constant…they just needed ten times the number of soldiers, hence the need to raise armies from client states and from a very large population of refugees.

        America has a few advantages. Our Republican system of governance is still a strong framework. If you read of early Roman politics, it’s a pretty unwieldy system based on patronage and favors. Ideal for a city state, impossible for an empire.

      • WTF

        Of course as the federal government has grown American politics has become a pretty unwieldy system based on patronage and favors.

    • littleruttiger

      It’s a sort of rot that has permeated most universities, and it goes hand in hand with the discussion last night about relaxed standards. I doubt it’s going to stop anytime soon.
      I saw it creeping into the math department at my old school – foreign language grad students had to pass a verbal English test before they were allowed to teach. The grad director emailed the students telling them this, and there was about a 20 email chain afterwards calling him racist, from both grad students and some professors. There was serious discussion from a few people about how AI/ML algorithms shouldn’t be taught, because they can be used in credit scorecards by banks, and minority loan applicants will be discriminated against. The university sent someone to give a talk to the department about how in certain cultures cheating wasn’t seen as a big deal, and to take that into account, and try to be understanding.
      It was just kind of ebbing in when I left, but I think the waters will keep rising.

  28. leon

    Christopher Columbus was some lost Italian who benefited from the removal of the Moors from Spain so he could enslave and murder an entire Continent. Good riddance to his statue.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      He wasn’t Italian.

      He was Genoese.

      Take your micro-aggression back to your privileged white space racist.

      • Q Continuum

        Why do you care? You’re just a Muppet.

      • Rhywun

        space racist

        Hey, we haven’t left for the moon yet.

      • bacon-magic

        Lunaterians unite and! *hops 20′ in air

      • bacon-magic

        and

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Racists in Space!

      • Count Potato

        They all want sponge cake.

      • Jarflax

        Genoa est in Italia. Italia est in Europa. Britannia est insula. Italia paene est insula. Italia est paeninsula.

      • UnCivilServant

        Look, there wasn’t a Italy until Garibaldi. Genoa was a properly independant city state.

      • Jarflax

        Semper Italia locum, populo id Garibaldi

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m afraid I have a hard time reading foreign. I’m not sure what you’re trying to claim, but I’m pretty sure it’s wrong.

    • straffinrun

      In 1492
      Columbus sailed the ocean blue
      Only to drown in lefty spooge.

    • Agent Cooper

      I had a FB acquaintance refer to Columbus as an “asshole.”

      Like he ever knew the guy. And, if the poster were alive in 1490, would he hold such enlightened ideas in his 15th-century brain?

      • leon

        All the Karens out marching are the same people who would have been pushing the inquisition in 15th century spain.

  29. Q Continuum

    Please ensure your seat backs and tray tables are in their full upright and locked positions for Ass Wednesday.

    http://archive.li/5xAAD

  30. Festus

    Okay, Folks. Off to eat my payday pizza and have some sleep. Be well, Friends!

  31. robc

    Started smoking a 14 lb pork butt at 7:30 this morning.

    Will update in an evening thread.

    • PieInTheSky

      Bring out the catapult …

    • cyto

      For those who don’t have access to a smoker, or don’t have the time and space to use one… I’ve found that there is an acceptable substitute.

      Cooking a cheap pork roast in a crock pot produces quite delicious results, if only a pale imitation of the real thing.

      https://www.southyourmouth.com/2013/05/crock-pot-pulled-pork-with-buzzys-butt.html

      When pork roasts started to be less than half price of the cheapest steak, and even cheaper than chicken…. we decided to give it a try. The dry rub I use is sweet, with a brown sugar base. And I add a bunch of onions to the pot, because I like cooked onions.

      But prep time is about 5-10 minutes and you just put it in the pot and come back at the end of the day. Pull out the fall-apart tender pieces of meat and use a fork to “pull” into shredded pork. Serve with your favorite BBQ sauce, alone or on a sandwich. Delicious.

      I think the recipe I started with was based on something like this.

      https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/240593/pulled-pork-yall/

      I just throw crap together now, like grandma used to do.

      It ain’t authentic anything. But it is easy and tasty and it serves a lot of folks.

      • robc

        Until I got my Traeger grill recently, I used the crock pot method.

        I prefer the Traeger to having a dedicated smoker and a dedicated grill.

      • robc

        The big issue with the crock pot method is you are limited to about 6 lbs.

    • Agent Cooper

      How do you fit that in your mouth?

  32. Q Continuum

    Great article about the cultlike characteristics of wokeness.

    https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/cult-dynamics-wokeness/

    To further expound on this, I see a fairly Turing complete religious institution in all this. Leftism is the overall religious doctrine, the Donk Party represents the mainstream Church, the media are the proselytizers and the SJWs are the mystics/true believers/fundamentalists.

    • R C Dean

      The frightening thing is how many people appear to have been reprogrammed, and how permanent that is.

      If the struggle session bullshit comes to my hospital, I can see me not working there any more. Try to do it so I get fired in a way that triggers a severance package.

      • UnCivilServant

        Encourage others to be publically vocal about it being bullshit and why. Make sure they know you’re the ringleader.

      • Q Continuum

        Join in the fun! Say that you identify as a masculine-presenting, transgender lesbian and when they have the gall to question it, threaten to sue them.

        Then extort a big raise.

      • R C Dean

        I imagine my exit conversation would involve reminding them why I am useful to them (because I am the meanest motherfucker in the valley), how painful it would be to be across the table from me in a lawsuit, and indicate that I would be proud to have my name on the lawsuit declaring struggle sessions as hostile workplaces requiring employers to pay phat damages.

        I really don’t want it to come to that.

      • UnCivilServant

        Actually, I’d love to see precedent saying struggle sessions, or any other of this woke bullshit, make a hostile work environment.

        I don’t have the money to be the test case, or the charisma to convince others to fund it. (nor has it gotten through the sluggish bureaucratic procedures in place here)

      • The Last American Hero

        Age discrimination will be your way out.

    • KSuellington

      Never argue with a mystic.

  33. TARDIS

    Does this mean my (wife’s) GWTW Laserdisc set will finally be worth some money? After a brief search, we located them in the basement. Maybe I should hide them from the thought police. Or I could take them out on the lake.

    • Q Continuum

      Make sure you take all the firearms that I’m sure you don’t own out on that boating trip too.

  34. PieInTheSky

    As usual I missed the midnight thread but I have a couple of comments:

    One, about diversity vs competence.
    Diversity has its place in some soft stuff like, product design, marketing, customer support for consumer product. Like the Mexican janitor who got the idea for hot flaming Cheetos which brought quite the profit.
    Diversity has no place in actual specialized work. There is nothing about culture or life experience that will make you figure out better what parasitic bipolars open up during an ESD stress on an integrated circuit.

    • Timeloose

      You mean I can’t solve a latch up issue by using a inter-sectional guard ring around the sensitive node?

    • EvilSheldon

      Good line.

  35. JD is in the United Karendom

    Tattoos are stupid and just a hollow and vain something something something stupid millenials all have tattoos something something. While I kind of agree, I was wondering about adding some “libertarian”-ish ink to my slightly overweight skinbag and, in considering this, it occurs to me that there are probably 0 proficient tattoozers that would be happy to do anything that is in any way remotely “unwoke” such as this. My experience of the tattooey demographic, at least the good kind that you see at the big conventions, tend to be fairly hard left, overlapping with various “DIY” and anarchist scenes (yeah I sound like an old school FBI briefing all of a sudden), but my dilemma is that I want to get something done well, so not just rocking up to any old shop in hicksville and saying “have at it”, but finding a decent artist that will also be happy to do the work and not doxx me and spread my name around the “community” as a “white supremacist” or “neo-nazi” just for wanting something that Vox et al have told them is “evil”. Maybe I’m being a touch paranoid. Maybe. Well what do you know, I just talked myself out of it. i do have ink already but you wouldn’t know it.

    • Nephilium

      You don’t see much woke bullshit going on in the rockabilly scene. Of course, we’re all generally old white people anyways.

    • R C Dean

      From my experience, tattoo artists are more nonconformist than woke mobbist. I’d be surprised if you couldn’t find a good one willing to do what you want. Maybe they’re different in the UK, though. Once it’s done, though, no way the artist sells you out unless he wants the mob after him, too.

    • straffinrun

      Prison tatt artists will do that. You thinking swastika?

      • Sensei

        Maybe you can give him some advice for a bad kanji (Chinese characters) tattoo?

        (I’ve seen some very interesting documentaries on the tattoo scene in Japan that make for some interesting thinking about their acceptance in Japan and the underground scene there with them.)

  36. Certified Public Asshat

    Rand Paul: I didn’t block anti-lynching bill, I attempted to strengthen it

    Is it too much to ask that we try again, in a bipartisan way, to work together to come up with an anti-lynching bill that doesn’t unintentionally mete out 10-year sentences for minor altercations?

    The terrible act of lynching deserves the most severe penalty we can apply. But the bill as written could potentially define slapping someone as a “lynching” and thereby eligible for 10 years in prison. That is an injustice and the public deserves to know the facts.

    We can work together for a better future, or we can continue to divide our nation by hurling unfounded insults and silencing important perspectives that could lead to real progress. No matter how loud the noise gets, no matter what comes my way, I will always continue to work for a more just America.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      I’d prefer it if he just stuck with “what the hell is the Fed Gov doing insinuating itself into this bullshit?”

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Yeah, he tried to play along and still got labeled an obstructionist racist.

      • R C Dean

        Same here.

        When will people learn you simply cannot play with fanatics?

    • J. Frank Parnell

      “unintentionally”

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      You earned it, Paul.

      • straffinrun

        Robespierre reinkrugnated.

    • Drake

      Eating their own in the radical spiral.

      • Chipwooder

        “Bravo! The wolves devour each other!”

    • RAHeinlein

      How many times will he blink when they cut of his head?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        You know what they say… The eyes are the windows to the soul. Maybe they’re just trying to break a few windows to stimulate the economy.

    • Suthenboy

      It was just a matter of time. The real question is, who is next? Should we start a betting pool?

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Sadly, no. Krugman joins calls for someone’s dismissal.

    • Q Continuum

      “The New York Times’ Paul Krugman, an anti-Trump columnist who famously declared that the Internet would prove less important than fax machines”

      Gotta love that cheap shot.

      • Suthenboy

        No one has successfully compiled a list of all of Krugman’s idiocy because they get brain damage less than half way through and die.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        I laughed

      • cyto

        this is a solved problem. It was handled in Monty Python’s flying circus.

        You simply divide the task into multiple pieces…. this is how they translated the world’s funniest joke into german in order to weaponize it. I don’t see why this wouldn’t work for the collected writings of Krugman.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Needs to work in “former Enron advisor” as well.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        +1

        / Wendy Lee Gramm, PhD

    • Rufus the Monocled

      This is AWESOME.

      Are we indeed in the Jacobin phase?

      It’s gotta eventually just all collapse no?

      No sympathy here. Imma just watch this and sa-mile!

      • R C Dean

        It’s gotta eventually just all collapse no?

        Of course. The challenge is minimizing the damage caused by these cultists.

  37. PieInTheSky

    Second about systemic racism.

    As a non USan looking from afar, I am not gully convinced about systemic racism. I think systemic leftism / stastism is the real issue. This can be amplified by historical, cultural issues and sporadic racism to disproportionately affect some minorities, but I see little evidence of a lot of legislation passed with racist intent. But I may be wrong, who knows the true intent of politicians? Systemic statism is bad for most non state profiteers and non power hungry assholes, but it can disproportionately affect more vulnerable communities.

    Min wage, gun control, occupational licensing had roots in racism, but for most that is no longer the case I would think. It went from racism to graft for some, useful idiocy for others. Off course the racial disparity is still there, as a side effect more than anything.
    For police for example, sporadic racism or bad cop culture can be non systemic yet have disproportionate effects. A few bad cop departments in large African American cities can skew the number a lot. A few racist county sheriffs departments can cause disproportion although there can be multiple sheriffs departments and counties which have no disparity.

    But I do not know of this and cannot give clear statements on it, I just suspect. I am not sure how all the problems break down. Is that even published? Black police interaction vs white by city, county, state? This would show if systemic or not, if they repeat in all states / cities / counties. If they replicate in some but not in others, I would not call it systemic.

    • PieInTheSky

      The problem with systemic racism is that is a nebulous, ill defined, not measurable, concept and it is basically impossible to find a concrete measurable solutions to it. On the other hand, for occupational licensing there is a clear concrete solution: repeal the fuckers.

      The problem with systemic racism repeats with systemic sexism, homophobia etc. How do you define it, measure it, fix it? Maybe this is why I am weary of systemic anything these days. Because the left always pushes quasi invisible system bias this or that to push more socialism.
      If the problem is seen as systemic racism and the solution more leftism nothing will be solved.

      Ok I am done. Not a sermon and all that…

      • Rhywun

        “Systemic” is just a prettier word for “collectivist”. It’s a scam designed to gaslight people into self-loathing and submission.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s poorly defined with no solutions because it’s convenient politically and a total grift. It’s the new rainbow coalition. It’s a shakedown, look at all the dirty corporate money they have successfully raked in the last month.

      • WTF

        “Systemic racism” would mean that there is an actual system designed and maintained with the goal to advantage/disadvantage certain racial groups. The only things that actually meet that requirement are Affirmative Action and Diversity quotas.

    • The Other Kevin

      I think you’re spot on here. It bothers me that right now, we could finally be discussing real issues such as police brutality and moving toward real solutions. But instead we get this vague “systemic racism” talk, which will get us nowhere except more divided. I’m usually not a conspiracy theorist, but to me this seems like someone got nervous about too many people agreeing on something, and said “Look over there! Racism!”

    • Q Continuum

      A “system” cannot be racist, it’s “not even wrong” in the Pauli sense. You can’t attribute such a quality to such a thing, it literally makes no sense, a complete non-sequitur. The whole concept is being used to try and discredit the current state of affairs as irredeemably flawed and the world can only be fixed by burning it to the ground and replacing it with something else (Communism naturally). It’s not enough to say that some laws or some practices unfairly have a disparate impact on black people, the whole system is “racist” and must be destroyed.

      • cyto

        Because communism is not oppressive to minorities. It is known.

      • kbolino

        Despite its official policy of affirmative action, the Chinese Communist Party is pretty blatantly Han supremacist at this point. The Five Races Under One Flag was a nationalist doctrine and so can easily be discarded when inconvenient by deriding it as counter-revolutionary. The Soviets did the exact same thing, ironically under the leadership of the Georgian Stalin, going from upholding the value of all the ethnicities in the union to claiming any attempt to undermine Russian supremacy was a capitalist plot.

  38. Rebel Scum

    “This is the kind of continuous revision that is part of the work of keeping the dictionary up to date, based on rigorous criteria and research we employ in order to describe the language as it is actually used.”

    Or you could just use the words correctly. As far as I am concerned “racist” means little to nothing these days. If I had to give it a definition: “a person currently winning an argument with a leftist.”

    • WTF

      Not even that, now racist is just a person who doesn’t whole heartedly agree and espouse the leftist dogma.

  39. straffinrun

    I haven’t heard the sound of guns being cocked from your side of the Pacific. Y’all a bunch of slackers.

    • Tundra

      We’re all at condition one.

    • Q Continuum

      We’re waiting for the Nipponese to come save us.

  40. Rebel Scum

    Calm down, lady.

    Mark Dice✔
    @MarkDice

    Is this a parody? I can’t tell anymore.

    Indeed.

    • PieInTheSky

      Stop picking on the mentally ill

  41. DrOtto

    I suppose this means they’ll be taking the COPS channel off Pluto, which I had only recently discovered during quarantine. Too bad, I hate the show, but watch it to see what techniques they are now using. What’s interesting is how things have changed from early episodes. They used to let little stuff go occasionally. Now they let nothing slide.

    • WTF

      My favorite is when they pull someone over for not using a blinker or some shit and then go “You’re acting nervous, which is suspicious behavior, therefore we have probable cause to search your vehicle”.

      • UnCivilServant

        And if you’re not nervous it’s “You’re too calm, you must be hiding something, that’s probable cause…”

      • Trigger Hippie

        Near the end of my slinging days as a youth I unconsciously developed the defense mechanism of yawning and behaving as if bored when dealing with police. It worked surprisingly well outside of a small town. Not a few times occured when a cop basically had me dead to rights for an arrest but didn’t bother searching me after I was behaving as if the interaction was nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

    • invisible finger

      Zero Tolerance began sometime around the Clinton administration.

      The ruling class’s values are completely nonsensical. When I was 18-19, I got busted a couple times (with friends) for drinking in a parked car. All the cops ever did was confiscate the stuff or make us pour it out. If we tried shoplifting, the cops would answer the call and usually make the perp face the manager/owner and either return the items, pay for them, or get prosecuted. Now under-age drinking is a big production: immediate arrest, massive fines, immediate revocation of driver’s license. But if you want to steal from a store, no biggie – cops will tell a store manager/owner to lump it.

      And this is all due to chasing federal dollars. I’m not blaming one political party over the other, they both bait the police with incentives and try to top each other with more pet causes the police are bribed to escalate. I don’t think individual cops like it but the chain of command apparatus is in love with it. Wall Street greed pales in comparison to the greed of elected officials and those who want to be.

      I don’t expect the ruling class to ever figure this out. They can’t figure out something as simple as supply and demand, so there’s no reason to expect they’ll understand reward and punishment.

    • Agent Cooper

      Maybe Live PD will still be on A&E. It’s the best PR for police forces around the country. Seriously.

    • Chipwooder

      Back to back replies…..too funny

      AntifaChrist (That Respects Yo Pronouns)
      @AntifaChristo
      ·
      21h
      Replying to
      @Yascha_Mounk
      We do decide who the target. Nazis who decide to be loud in public. I’m having deep trouble understanding what your problem is with that.

      robertwaldeck
      @Robertwaldeck
      ·
      23h
      Replying to
      @Yascha_Mounk
      ANTIFA does not exist.

      Someone really should tell “AntifaChrist” that he doesn’t exist.

      • leon

        https://twitter.com/phidippides26/status/1270578391431802880

        If I may ask for clarification, when you say “violence,” do you mean person to person violence, or destruction of property? I know it may be idiosyncratic, but I do not include the latter in my definition of violence

        I’d say they have a moral philosophy, but i Kant.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Nice

        Anybody who says something like that deserves to have all their shit taken out and burnt in the street.

      • leon

        Yup. But they would call the cops…

      • Count Potato

        I’d rather see someone make that happen.

    • WTF

      If I may ask for clarification, when you say “violence,” do you mean person to person violence, or destruction of property? I know it may be idiosyncratic, but I do not include the latter in my definition of violence.

      • Count Potato

        Antifa does both anyway.

  42. Rebel Scum

    Tim Pool joins the dark side?

    Independent journalist Tim Pool used to describe himself as being fairly liberal. He’s definitely not a hard-core conservative. The one-time Bernie Bro, however, has never really been liked by the left. He’s been accused of being part of the alt-right and who knows what else.

    Still, Pool has soldiered through. He’s maintained his stances on things like free speech and many other issues. He’s someone I enjoy watching. His takes on the news are often enlightening, even if I don’t always agree with him on it.

    However, Pool has also started to do something of interest to Bearing Arms readers. He tried to buy a gun.

    Legally, of course. Unfortunately, for him, he lives in New Jersey.

  43. Certified Public Asshat

    I’m on a zoom fundraiser with @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris. I’m filled with hope. I feel like this MUST be the ticket. They’re an amazing team. The right team for this moment in history. #BidenHarris2020— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) June 9, 2020

    Gross.

    • straffinrun

      Joe thought he was on Hollywood Squares.

    • leon

      If joe Biden picks Kamala Harris, and i’m Trumps media guy, i run non-stop ads of Kamala calling Biden a racist, and saying she believes Tara Reade.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      A good tweet:

      Joe Biden is gonna pick Kamala Harris for his VP to make up for COPS being cancelled— Grant Addison (@jgrantaddison) June 10, 2020

    • Count Potato

      Are they forgetting the whole Kamala is a cop thing?

  44. UnCivilServant

    How many phone plans are left where “long distance” calls within the US are charged at a different rate from “local” calls?

    • robc

      Two.

      • PieInTheSky

        you forgot about the third one

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Seems to be the case with copper landlines. (Are there alternatives? Asking for a relative.)

      • Count Potato

        Most cable TV companies offer phone. Many of them use fiber optic.

      • Nephilium

        If you’ve got internet, you could also go VOIP. That’s what most of the phones system is on the back end now anyways.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        No, I meant free long-distance while keeping copper. VOIP quality is for crap and no good in an outage.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nothing works in an outage for that thing.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Bad news. It really is mostly voip on the back end as Neph says, particularly in the long distance network. Or any place that’s built phone service in the last twenty years (cable co, AT&T ripping out their analog telephone switches, etc)

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Thought not. Thanks, though.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        POTS is only last mile any more.

        You will get faster support for your internet connection than your copper lines these days.

        Ooma works fine and is cheap. All my business lines are VOIP now and I have very few problems, certainly fewer than when I was on copper.

  45. Don Escaped Required Training Course

    OT: I don’t have a cat picture or a smoked brisket story to share, but here’s how my day started. Escaped Jr (who did not escape) called during his morning commute to make sure I saw his email about a recent Mises-org article on federalism; we got a little side-tracked discussing the Austro-Hungarian empire and the use of possessives to introduce a gerund phrase.

    I hope all your days start at least half as well as mine has.

    • UnCivilServant

      Well, I had a meeting get cancelled after half the attendees didn’t show, so the agency stakeholder had no one to tell us what their issue even is.

      • Don Escaped Required Training Course

        definitely goes in the win column

  46. Rebel Scum

    Pivot!

    A month ago the owner of a salon in Dallas, Texas was literally sentenced to a week in jail and fined $7,000 for having the audacity to open up her business so that she and her employees could feed their families. Anti-lockdown protests were derided by the media and Democrats alike, and liberal governors doubled down on their stay-at-home orders.

    But after George Floyd’s death, the left (and that includes the media) stood in sheer awe at the number and size of the protests that occurred. It was like all of a sudden all those concerns about social distancing because of the coronavirus were erased. Wanting a haircut was a crime, but looting stores in the name of George Floyd and shouting “I can’t breathe” and “black lives matter” suddenly made it okay to gather in large groups, often without masks. The coronavirus pandemic was basically over. At least as far as the media was concerned.

    That was until President Trump decided he wanted to hold rallies again. “President Trump will hit the campaign trail this month — despite the deadly coronavirus pandemic, which continues to impact the lives and livelihoods of households across the country,” tweeted NPR.

    Honestly I am more concerned about the looting and rioting.

  47. PieInTheSky

    I looked at the new dictionarty definitions of rcism

    • straffinrun

      Don’t leave me hanging. Uh….

    • PieInTheSky

      Stupid post how the fuck did that happen?

      racism

      : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
      b : a political or social system founded on racism

      This is mostly circular bullshit

      cheese: a food made of cheese. definition

      • leon

        You don’t need to define racisim. You’ll know it when you see it.

      • The Other Kevin

        More like “I’ll know it when you do it.”

      • WTF

        Circular on purpose, that way everything and anything can be racism or racist.

    • Sensei

      I’m sure this will get lots of coverage…

  48. Rebel Scum

    Oh, Kayleigh.

    “The president is sorry about the fact that Antifa wreaked havoc in our streets, and the failure of some members of the media to note that, like CNN’s Chris Cuomo said, ‘Show me where it says protestors are supposed to be peaceful.’ Well, I point him to the First Amendment where it is said you have the right to ‘peaceably assemble.’ He should go back and read the Constitution,” McEnany said.

    “There are many others out there, Don Lemon saying that rioting is a ‘mechanism to restructure our country,’” McEnany said. “The actions of the rioters were not in keeping with the First Amendment and I think the media needs to recognize that there is a discernment between the peaceful protestors, many of whom I have seen, and the rioters.”

    • bacon-magic

      would

    • Count Potato

      I’m also thinking antifa is like the KKK was, with local politicians being a part, or at least supportive, of a terrorist organization.

      Check out these catch and release shenanigans:

      https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1270543245714444291

  49. Juvenile Bluster

    I saw someone on Twitter talk about 1984, and Orwell’s quote “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face–for ever.”

    It was pointed out, and I agree – I never thought of how many people would identify with the boot. Trump’s crowd is clearly big with being the boot. The left doesn’t want anything to change, really. They just want the boot to be on their own foot.

    I’m so fucking tired of all this. Ignoring what this is doing to my mental health (let me just say this is not a good time to be someone with depression and a severe anxiety disorder), there’s no going back from where we are. Both sides, whenever the pendulum of power swings their way, are going to keep using to to worse and worse effect on liberty.

    • RAHeinlein

      “Trump’s crowd is clearly big with being the boot” – interesting take given events over the past six months.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Don’t give me that shit. Of anybody in this debate the people here should know that just because one side sucks doesn’t mean I’m going to support the shit the other side does. If you don’t think the Trump crowd is big with being the boot you’re being willfully ignorant.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        And with that, I’m out for a while. This is why I said this place is bad for my mental health.

      • Jarflax

        Because someone expressing disagreement with you upsets you? You do you but I don’t think anxiety gets better without confronting it. I have my own demons in that regard so I understand, but the only way out of that trap is through.

      • kbolino

        For what it is worth, I think that there is a strong conflation here (meaning, among many of the commenters on this site) that all/most Trump supporters are like us. The reality is that they are not, i.e. that most Trump supporters are not libertarians. Emily Ekins (who also works for Reason) did a solid study on the makeup of the Trump coalition back in 2017 (The Five Types of Trump Voters). While some of the dynamics have likely changed since then, the basic finding was that “Free Marketeers” make up about 25% of Trump’s support. That means 75% of his supporters disagree with libertarians on questions of economics, social policy, or both. While 25% is enough to not be ignored, it is not enough to get their/our way all the time. And the study also made it clear that many people in that 25% were picking their least-bad candidate not their ideal candidate, which also affects the enthusiasm and engagement they have and thus the degree to which their input matters on questions of policy. Grudging support may be necessary to win the election but it does tend to lead to a contentious relationship (see e.g. the recent Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition in Britain). So I think a good many of us need a bit of a reality check there, probably myself included. Trump was the better choice than Clinton and he’s likely the better choice than woke-Biden but he’s not “one of us” and never will be (nor ever will need to be, to survive politically).

        That having been said, I think one should be careful to read too much into what Trump says. The man has rarely followed through on his Tweets, and that is where he is pure conservative id and thus at least libertarian. For example, for all of the bluster about deploying the military, no such thing has come to fruition yet. So there is a reverse aspect to this as well, which is not to ascribe everything one may think of Trump to all of his supporters.

      • kbolino

        at HIS least libertarian*

      • bacon-magic

        Your perceptions are not truths, just your opinions. Everyone has an opinion, or perception of an event. Debate helps you to see the other side.

    • leon

      It was pointed out, and I agree – I never thought of how many people would identify with the boot. Trump’s crowdEveryone is clearly big with being the boot

      I mentioned this yesterday when people were saying that regular people don’t want to be free, but to have a kind master. People absolutely want liberty. For themselves. They absolutely want to be the “kind master” for everyone else.

      • Drake

        I was pleased at how little authority Trump and his administration used directly during the whole corona drama. The media would have been fine if he had used far more federal “authority”. I wish he had hammered governors earlier for their crazy authoritarian power grabs.

  50. sloopyinca

    I’m now convinced that brawling to settle differences needs to be legalized. If the participants are all there willingly, then they should be allowed to fight if they want. Just start taking out ads telling people who wish to engage in a physical culture war what the ground rules and location for the brawl will be and let them go at it.

    We could even let the government sell the rights for PPV in lieu of raising taxes. I’d be ok with that.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Bring back dueling. It’s mainstream again thanks to Hamilton anyways.

    • straffinrun

      Some states already have that legal IIRC.

      • leon

        I’m looking for the statute, but i think contests of strength like such are tacitly approved by Utah Code.

    • Q Continuum

      To the death?

      • Jarflax

        To the pain!

  51. Rebel Scum

    Virtue. Signaled.

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) said Tuesday that a street at a “crucial” location in each of the city’s five borough’s will be renamed “Black Lives Matter.”

    “What will be clear — the street name and on the streets of our city — is that message that now this city must fully, fully deeply feel and this nation must as well, that black lives matter,” de Blasio said.

    One of the locations will be near City Hall in Manhattan, and the other locations will be decided by activists and city leaders.

    • The Other Kevin

      Meanwhile, is selling loose cigarettes in NYC still a crime punishable by death?

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Well, they’ve outlawed chokeholds!

        They were already outlawed before Eric Garner was murdered, but they’re DOING SOMETHING!

    • leon

      has Bill round up the jews yet to make living space for the blacks?

    • WTF

      Yes, lets name public streets for a Marxist political group. But we must unperson all of the nation’s founders.

    • sloopyinca

      “Problem solved!”
      -nobody

  52. Mojeaux

    Good morning.

    Today didn’t start out great, but not bad. I got stuff done. I’m going to go read a few pages of my Daily Stoic and Zen out for a while.

    The country is on fire. Shit’s being destroyed. History erased. There will be actual slaves before this is all over, which slaves, willingly enslaving themselves to… I don’t know? Hope people will like them?

    Trump. Landslide.

    • Don Escaped Required Training Course

      * pounds well-worn drum *

      you’ll need to considerably move the goalposts to qualify anything as a landslide ever again

      unless you can get CA, OR, WA and NY, CT, NY to fall off into their respective oceans

      • leon

        Win like George Washington or GTFO.

      • Mojeaux

        you’ll need to considerably move the goalposts to qualify anything as a landslide ever again

        You’re probably right about that.

        I don’t even know what I mean by a landslide except humiliating the competition by the discrepancy and sending a message to the progs.

        Do I think that will teach the progs that what they are doing is counterproductive? No. I thought it would last time. I thought they would modify their behavior and go back into stealth Marxist mode, but that didn’t happen.

        So if Trump DOES win, the country will continue to burn until the silent majority gets sick of it and goes Rooftop Korean AND/OR the progs’ precious institutions will be in tatters and they will be terminally unemployed and…do what? while life goes on around them. And corporations will continue to put out merchandise and provide services we buy and use regardless of how repugnant they are.

      • Q Continuum

        “progs’ precious institutions will be in tatters”

        I think this is more likely as they are already fully in eat-their-own mode. Looks like the Academy is next on the menu and it is already severely weakened because of Kung Flu.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I don’t even know what I mean by a landslide except humiliating the competition by the discrepancy and sending a message to the progs.

        I’m skeptical of the calls of Trump winning big. I think there is a large contingent who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Herself, but will vote for Biden. OTOH, the left has pissed a lot of people off who were previously happy to sit on the fence and spectate.

      • RAHeinlein

        The Boomers for Biden is a question mark – particularly given Covid.

      • Q Continuum

        Agreed. I think Trump wins EC again, but loses pop vote, probably by even more this time just because the fanatics on the coasts are being whipped up to such a state that we’ll see massive turnout against him.

      • UnCivilServant

        Where are you seeing massive turnout?

        I can see massive fraud, but the blue voters around me are not particularly enthused.

      • Q Continuum

        All it takes is big turnout and Soviet victory margins in LA, SF, NYC and Chicago and that alone would be enough.

      • Rhywun

        I think Biden gets fewer votes than Herself did. Like Unciv said, I’m not seeing any enthusiasm for him, at all.

      • Count Potato

        At least he won’t remember he lost.

      • Drake

        This. Reagan won every one of those states the 2nd time around.

      • robc

        356-182 would be my definition of a landslide this time around. It isn’t a real landslide.

        That is every state that Clinton won with less than 50% of the vote going to Trump this time:

        NV, CO, NM, MN, VA, ME, NH.

      • robc

        That would leave Biden with the left coast, the Boston-DC corridor, and Illinois.

      • UnCivilServant

        If just shy of 2/3 of the electoral vote isn’t a “real landslide”, where is your “real landslide” threshold?

      • Mojeaux

        Reagan. I think most people think of a landslide in terms of Reagan’s.

        I think “landslide” = “humiliating”.

      • Drake

        Yes – We never heard from Mondale again and Bill Clinton got to bone his daughter.

      • robc

        80% is a little landslide, 90% is a real one.

        Recent history, greater than 90%: 1936, 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984.

        Mini-landslides: 1912, 1928, 1932, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1956.

      • R C Dean

        The traditional definition of a landslide is a 10% margin. That works for direct elections, but for a Presidential election, I guess you could make the technical argument that a 10% margin in the electoral college is a landslide. But by that measure, Trump won in a landslide in 2016, so I don’t think anyone is going to buy it.

        I see absolutely no way Trump gets a 10% margin in the national popular vote. I think the Dems are going to pull out all the stops in the Deep Blue states to run up their popular vote, because it lets them say he’s not a legitimate President.

        And, yeah, there are definitely Dem machines in some of the swing states won by Trump that could flip those states with vote fraud shenanigans.

    • WTF

      Trump. Landslide.

      You underestimate the power of the media and of the coming Fraud by Mail.

      • Trigger Hippie

        *read in Vader voice*

      • Count Potato

        Also, how most of the Trump supporters on the internet have been banned.

      • UnCivilServant

        Don’t like it, build your own internet.

      • Q Continuum

        I’m much more worried about fraud than I am media malfeasance or censorship. The media is only screeching to the choir at this point; no one in the middle is being convinced by them. Internet censorship is a little more concerning, but shitposters and memesters will find ways around it to reach the normies. It’s also becoming pretty damn transparent, just like media malfeasance.

      • Pine_Tree

        I thought that until about last week.

        The different armed services chiefs getting on the news to wokely jump on the “erase the Confederacy” bandwagon handed it to Biden.

      • Rebel Scum

        So they are going to stop teaching Lee and Jackson in military school? Sounds like a bad idea.

    • Trigger Hippie

      I was supposed to do outside ladder work today. Too windy. Now I’m going to have to go in all weekend for work due to the weather. Huzzah! At least I’m getting most of my hours in again.

  53. Don Escaped Required Training Course

    I never believed the ‘Dry Heat’ claim

    I’ve linked to this before, but anyone can calculate the basic load of a situation using a psychometric chart. And for bar bets about what is sensibly hotter, just compare the total enthalphy of competing scenarios.

    Easy example: let’s look at the 25BTU/lbm line. It crosses a known comfort point of 70°F @ 50%RH. Now keep traveling down that same line and you’ll find 90°F @ 10%RH. These are mechanical states, but they work for you as well: you are an evaporator after a sense, cooling and dripping to meet a load. It’s a gross generality, but if your situation is close to 25BTU/lbm, in some cloud around that line, you will be happy to sit there; if you’re jumping around or have the fan on high, it won’t work so well.

    The limitation of such application to the person is that we need just enough breeze to evaporate our sweat in all conditions, but without getting into further details than this, it’s a pretty good way to grasp the loads and the sensations.

    • Don Escaped Required Training Course

      fixed the link ?

    • cyto

      I can personally confirm that 10% humidity is in no way comfortable. At least not for long periods.

      I used to work with a lab that required a dehumidified room for some of their microscopy work. I wore contacts at the time, and just a few minutes in that room would dry them out. You’d get very dehydrated, very fast doing almost nothing active. Just breathing was enough to sap your body of its moisture.

      Some desert areas can get down to the low single digits. You’d definitely dry out like a raisin in very short order in that sort of environment.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        There’s a lot more to it than my simple chart; I was clear on that.

        Your lab wasn’t 90°F. 10%RH air has twice as much moisture in it at 90°F than it does at 70°F.

    • Q Continuum

      “Comfort” is highly subjective and can’t directly be measured. Someone who grew up in the SW might not bat an eye at 115F with low RH and be miserable on an 85 degree day in Florida (and vice versa).

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        “Comfort” is highly subjective and can’t directly be measured

        Go ahead and finish your example with actual values for RH and then chart it out. Comfort is some cloud around my line: we are probably in violent agreement.

      • cyto

        And it produces weird results…

        A breezy 68 degree night in South Florida is actually a little chilly.

      • Jarflax

        The effect of RH on perceived temperature/comfort is not a one size fits all curve. The fatter you are the less effective evaporative cooling is, squares and cubes and all of that. 🙂

    • RAHeinlein

      Thanks, Don!

    • Suthenboy

      “…I acted as a violent agent of capitalism and white supremacy. ”

      I am gonna call bullshit. The instant I hear anyone say ‘capitalism bad’ or ‘white supremacy’ I know they are either deluded or lying.

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah, I have no doubt this guy was an asshole cop, but I am certain he’s no less worthless now that he’s a Marxist.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Yeah, I wasn’t endorsing all of it, it went off the rails with the whole “capitalism is bad” and quoting Angela Davis thing. But everything up til then rings true.

      • Chipwooder

        Agreed. It’s one of those “right for the wrong reasons” kind of things.

      • Suthenboy

        It rings true because it is not uncommon for it to be true. Like most lies it is a narrative built on some truth. Policing attracts an inordinate number of sadists, power trippers and psychopaths but there are some good guys out there too. I started getting skeptical right off of the bat when he said ‘I was a bastard. We all were.’

    • Viking1865

      That was a good read. Although I do love how the dude characterizes the city council of a CA city having a crony deal for recycling as “capitalism”. That’s 100% a government thing. Oh and of course the raw laissez-faire unfettered libertarianism of the of California Penal Code.

    • Jarflax

      ACAB is collectivist.

  54. Rebel Scum

    Trust us this time.

    But on Tuesday, Kerkhove walked her statement back. “We don’t actually have that answer yet. There are some estimates that suggest that anywhere between 6% of the population and 41% of the population may be infected but not have symptoms within a point estimate of around 16%,” she said during a live Q&A streamed to social media.

    “The majority of transmission is from people who have symptoms and are spreading it through infectious droplets,” she continued. “But there are a subset of people who don’t develop symptoms. To truly understand how many people don’t have symptoms, we don’t actually have that answer yet.”

    • Count Potato

      They don’t know shit, do they?

    • R C Dean

      anywhere between 6% of the population and 41% of the population may be infected but not have symptoms

      We can definitely make policy based on that massive error bar.

  55. Toxteth O’Grady

    Happy birthday, Juneteenth in TX! ???

    The Eiffel Tower is reopening soon except for the elevators. Elderly tourists will be dropping like flies.

    • Don Escaped any Landslide

      Juneteenth

      celebrating early ?

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Sorry: HRH *Justice* F.S.J. The first 50 oz. of coffee evidently didn’t take.

  56. Q Continuum

    The whole “Let’s smash STEM!” nonsense to me proves that CCP or Russia has to be playing some role in this.

    The US’s technological superiority is what has kept it top dog in the world for decades and that movement makes so little sense and benefits our adversaries so much that I can’t fathom them taking advantage of our internal crackup.

    • Don Escaped any Landslide

      Thanks to the Civil War, chicks tapping out articles for Slate can do so in cool, cool cotton knowing that the labor that produced it now makes $40/hour with medical, dental, vision, 15 holidays, and four weeks of vacation per year.

      • UnCivilServant

        You mean the one guy who runs the import business bringing it in from India?

      • Juvenile Bluster

        The clothes themselves are made by “rescued” sex workers making next to nothing, forced to live in dingy dorms and undergo “training” on why their previous lives were so terrible.

    • RAHeinlein

      Finally, a cancel-culture idea I can support!

  57. Mojeaux

    @Don Escaped Any Landslide.

    Congrats. Got me to LOL early in the day. Day instantly better.

    • Don Escaped any Landslide

      I spend my youth fascinated by her

      • Mojeaux

        Didn’t everybody?

        She appeals to girls/women with that gauzy, haunting, witchy, romantic persona she has. It’s very powerful. She projects an image of having power.

        IMO, she is the female counterpart to Bowie’s Goblin King with regard to otherworldly power.

      • UnCivilServant

        No. I don’t recognize the face. Probably wouldn’t recognize the name if someone told me who she is.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Not me.

        I was a Pat Benatar kind of guy.

      • Chipwooder

        Susanna Hoffs

      • Mojeaux

        You guys did see the “girls/women” part, right?

        I don’t know what she does for boys/men. I know what she does for girls/women.

      • leon

        Her is not a velociraptor. Disappoint.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      I was coming back to post one thing and that was it.

      You just hate to see it.

      • Chipwooder

        If you are indeed taking a break for a while, take care man. Hope you’re doing OK.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        On one side I need this place, because it’s my only release. On the other hand I just get frustrated by what I see sometimes, and combined with what’s going on in the world and my own stew of mental illnesses it’s not healthy. So it’s kind of like I need this place for my mental health but it’s also harming my mental health, and I dunno what to do.

        So I’m going to write that article I talked about yesterday (with regard to “the police don’t have to do shit to help you”), take a break for a day or two, submit it and see how I feel then.

      • bacon-magic

        Only you get to decide whether anything affects your mental health. You’re mind is strong, believe that, and only your own mind can make itself unhealthy.

      • bacon-magic

        *your (my mind must not be strong enough) [focuses force]

      • Trolleric the Goth

        I love that phrase

    • Count Potato

      Still, no idea why the authorities haven’t done anything.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        I’m not sure why exactly they haven’t, but in my mind it’s easier to let them LARP for a few days and then go home to their parent’s basements than it is to go in there to try and “retake” the area.

      • sloopyinca

        Because they’ve been ordered to stand down and let this shit happen.

        I wonder how soon a criminal complaint will be filed by a business whose property has been stolen. And of the state refuses to help, how long before the feds roll in.

      • Chipwooder

        Well, who do the authorities work for? Answer: for local politicians who are cheerleading for this shit.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Cheerleading? The commie city councilor opened the locked doors of city hall to those people. They are outright participating now.

    • Q Continuum

      You mean trust fund, revolution LARPers are incapable of running a society based on communist principles?

      I am completely, totally and utterly shocked!

    • robc

      Hmmm…the Bundys managed to not starve to death.

    • RAHeinlein

      “bring vegan meat substitutes, fruits, oats, soy products, etc.”

      These guys get going to the mattresses.

    • Rhywun

      LOL it’s like the fucking Park Slope Food Co-op took over the block.

      • Chipwooder

        They can’t even protect their food from hobos, but I’m sure they’ll be successful otherwise.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m not sure bums would want that crap either once they discover what it is, based on the garbage I see from them. I imagine it will just get thrown down the street or smeared on a building.

    • The Other Kevin

      Regardless of motive, doing nothing might turn out to be a great move. It’s been like 2 days and they’re already starving.

    • R C Dean

      That’s hilarious. One of those “it can’t be real, right? Has to be parody.”

  58. PieInTheSky

    The “left” hasn’t had a political party in the states since the 80’s. The problems we see many conservatives complaining about are the product of too much conservatism.

    Put simply: liberals do not censor, conservatives do.

    https://twitter.com/Z4RQUON/status/1270729432622338055

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      What is this? I can’t even…

    • Chipwooder

      It’s totally coincidental that those media entities are all making the exact same choices at the exact same time. How serendipitous!

    • leon

      And No True Scotsman would either.

  59. Trolleric the Goth

    possibly controversial opinion:

    the night version of “Girls on Film” isn’t as good as the original mix (the brash guitar riff that defines the song gets muted), but the night version of Planet Earth is far superior to the original

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Girls On Film as opening to an old (and incredibly weird) anime favorite of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZDVaT9-ek

      It was used as the opening in Japan but moved to generic music for US release as they couldn’t get the license.

      Video is slightly NSFW.

      Also my controversial opinion about Duran Duran is A View To A Kill is their best song.

      • Sensei

        It’s on my list to watch.

        As to weird – two words – Studio Gonzo.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Mine too!

        #2: The Chauffeur.

    • Rhywun

      *checks*

      Correct on “Girls on Film” – this version is lame

      Digging the jazzy synth line in “Planet Earth” but not sure if better than the original

  60. Gustave Lytton

    Well, Target Sports came through (mostly) on my order shortage. Never responded to me email so called them. Rep checked the order, conferred with her supervisor, and refunded the missing items right away. Would have preferred that they just sent me what I ordered but half was sold out again anyways. Also realized later that their shipping isn’t flat rate and they didn’t prorate for the missing items in the refund. Oh well.

  61. PieInTheSky

    replace all statues with statues of chive ladies

    • leon

      BEING AFRAID OF LOOTING COMES FROM A PLACE OF PRIVILEGE AND WHITE SUPREMACY!

    • RAHeinlein

      The leading real estate firm “categorically rejects racist and fear-based rhetoric in any form,” the spokesperson insisted.

    • Agent Cooper

      He should start his own firm and do crazy marketing shit like that. I bet he’ll be successful.

  62. Ownbestenemy

    I knew it. Dad was trucking along with his cancer treatment and was due out this week or the next but guess what…hospitals are breeding grounds for incompetence and disease.

    He tested positive for covid. While we have no genetic markers and are a generally healthy bunch, the old man is 75. Fucking VA shoved a covid patient probably into his area.

    • Rhywun

      Shit. Best of luck for the guy.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Thanks Rhy. No symptoms and they think he had it for a week now.

      • Incentives Matter

        Out of curiosity, you wouldn’t happen to know your Dad’s blood-type, would you?

        No symptoms is good news! Let’s hope it stays that way.

    • bacon-magic

      Prayers for your Dad.

    • Q Continuum

      Fuck these incompetent clowns. Hope he fights it off.

    • Count Potato

      Sorry, hope he gets better soon.

      • Sensei

        +1!

    • DEG

      Sorry. Best wishes.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      All good thoughts to OBE Dad.

  63. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Rupert Hine, who seems to have produced half of the albums of the 80’s, is dead.

    • Rhywun

      Damn. He was an excellent artist too.

      RIP

      • Rhywun

        and i oop

      • Rhywun

        Moderation for one link? What is this place coming to.

        Well, here is another.

      • Rhywun

        You can really tell that he taught Robert Palmer everything he knows.

        My links were eaten by “moderation” but I dig the hell out of some of his earl(ier) 80s stuff. Even the early 70s stuff is good.

  64. cyto

    The post about “first black woman to win an oscar” reminded me of something I saw on ESPN the other night. They had a 30 for 30 about Bruce Lee. A major theme of the episode was “racism in Hollywood” that prevented Asian actors from getting lead roles.

    At that point, they had on a photograph of Nancy Kwan. Now, aside from being insanely hot and being one of my first crushes, she was also nominated for the Golden Globe best actress in 1961.

    So although it is undoubtedly true that there were very limited opportunities for minorities in Hollywood, and particularly Asians, being such a small percentage of the target audience….. a leading lady from Hong Kong was probably not the best example to hold up at that moment.

    Interesting aside…. I checked the RottenTomatoes for her page – The World of Suzie Wong is her lowest rated film, at 38%. It won some awards when it came out.. so I clicked through to see what that was all about.

    It was about the woke. All of the reviews are from the last decade or so.

    The story is essentially “Pretty Woman”, except instead of Richard Gere and Julia Roberts it is William Holden and Nancy Kwan. And she’s in Hong Kong. So inter-racial romance filmed in the 1950’s, released 1960.

    The woke didn’t like that.

    To be fair, Pretty Woman only rated 63%….. and most of those reviews are recent as well. It picked up golden globe nominations and an oscar nomination for Roberts.

    • RAHeinlein

      I’d happily substitute Nancy Kwan for Jennifer Jones in “Love is a Many-Splendored Thing”

      IIRC Bruce Lee was deemed “too Asian” for the role of Caine in the TV series Kung Fu.

      • cyto

        They made a big deal out of that on the 30 for 30. Bruce Lee developed the concept for himself because he couldn’t find a proper role to suit his talents… and they still gave it to someone else.

    • Viking1865

      One of the things the wokerati despise are Asian women dating white men. It’s a big thing in woke millenial and younger circles, fueled by hatred of nerdy white guys who want Asian women.

      White men are racist if they date white women, and they are colonizers and fetishists when they date nonwhite women.

      • Rhywun

        It’s an even bigger thing among Asian men.

      • Viking1865

        I went to a gifted HS. Lot of Asians, obviously. Lot of Indian and Pakistani as well. All the dudes had no luck in high school, little luck in college in the dating game. Now they’re hitting their thirties, and bam all the girls from their communities who spent the last 10 years dating white guys are hitting them up, or the mom network is in action.

      • Mojeaux

        One of the things the wokerati despise are Asian and black women dating white men

        Except in this case, the black women are the targets for prostrating themselves before white men (shades of slavery). It’s not the white men who are to blame in this instance because the women they go for are the ones who have their shit together and race is not really a thing. This goes back to my assertion yesterday that the black community does not value its women, particularly ones with their shit together. So a few of its women go where they are valued for who they are and what they’ve accomplished.

      • Mojeaux

        By the way, there is a huge and thriving romance subgenre of black women and white men.

      • UnCivilServant

        The data point that is most interesting for these mentions is who the audience is.

        Do you know?

      • Mojeaux

        Black women.

      • cyto

        I missed this earlier, but I can confirm from personal experience that there is a good deal of animosity in the black community toward interracial dating and marriage. Mostly among the young/single crowd.

        There is a deficit of successful young black single men. With an outsized criminal element serving outsized sentences, professional black women often have a great hostility toward professional black men who date white women. They view it as “taking their men”.

        When my ex and I were together, we never once heard a single syllable about our relationship from a white person, family, friend or stranger.

        But pretty much anywhere we went, black dudes felt empowered to comment. Some were complementary – “Dude, that’s a beautiful lady on your arm”… some offensive “Hey Sister! Why don’t you come with me? I’ll show you what a real brother is like!” And some… well, don’t screw with a “proud black woman”. The bowtie wearing Farakan guys who wanted to lecture her about her responsibility to her race…. yeah.. that didn’t go well for them.

        But it was definitely an important topic for the community.

        Oh.. .and Spike Lee. Yeah.. Spike is lucky he didn’t run in the same circles as we did. She would have put a “jungle Fever” foot up his ass.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Seems an accurate take.

  65. DEG

    PA legislature passes concurrent resolution saying Gauleiter Wolf’s emergency is over.

    The Pennsylvania legislature has voted to end Governor Tom Wolf’s COVID-19 emergency declaration, but now there’s uncertainty on what can happen next.

    Republican lawmakers say the bill was passed for a “final time” Tuesday night, and that Wolf has to end the emergency. But since he has not yet done so, all existing shutdown orders remain in place, lawmakers said.

    However, the Democratic caucus says Wolf can — and plans to — veto the legislation.

    But lawmakers say that’s not legal, and the concurrent resolution is not up for the governor’s signature or veto.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      If everyone stops acting like there is a quarantine, there is no quarantine.

      Take that lesson from the protestors/rioters.

      • leon

        Wolf is too busy ignoring his own orders to veto the resolution

        That being said, my understanding was that certain things like Joint-Resolutions weren’t actually laws and so they don’t actually mean anything than “we decided to say you are a big poopy head”.

      • Drake

        Shame that he isn’t up fro reelection.

      • DEG

        Concurrent resolution. He has no say in the matter but he thinks he does.

        Scruffy is right. Now things get interesting.

      • R C Dean

        Haven’t looked up the exact language, but I believe his emergency powers were time limited unless extended by the legislature. If so, the joint resolution should terminate them.

        Could be thinking of a different state, though.

      • DEG

        I think you are thinking of Michigan.

        PA legislation

        90 days, can be extended. Legislature can end at any time via concurrent resolution.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Now it gets interesting.

    • R C Dean

      My take would be that the resolution terminates the orders. Wolf’s acquiescence is not required. They are over now, as actions by the executive that no longer have any legal basis.

    • Q Continuum

      If by “nobody” you mean “everybody who dug two inches deeper into the story beyond the mainstream propaganda line” then yes.

    • leon

      Premeditated then?

      I mean if they can get Charlottsville guy on murder 1 for some off hand remark, then surely thy can get Derek for an “I’m gonna kill you” statement or something.

      • Drake

        More like an escalation that got out of hand. Floyd acted like an asshole and really did resist arrest. So Chauvin just kneeled on his neck until he passed out and died.

    • Suthenboy

      It is human nature to need a narrative, a plot, a good guy and a bad guy and they lived happily ever after.
      In reality that almost never happens.
      In this case it is definitely shitbags all the way around.

    • The Last American Hero

      But if they actually knew each other than Chauvin wasn’t just some racist attacking rando black guys?*

      *He may be racist. I don’t really know.

  66. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I don’t know who picked the brand name of Nugenix, but they should be fired.

    • bacon-magic

      Maggie Sanger

    • Suthenboy

      My current favorite is ‘Relaxium’

      It is probably talcum powder, sugar and unobtainium but obviously it helps y ou sleep. Hell, it is right there in the name. I wouldn’t have been sold on it if they didnt run the ads ten times per hour.

      • Rhywun

        Mine is “Skyrizi”. I don’t what it does or what it reminds me of, but that name is bananas.

  67. Mojeaux

    vegan meat substitutes, fruits, oats, soy products

    If that isn’t telegraphing how weak and toothless these people are when they are on their own, I don’t know what is.

    Entitled little brats.

    • EvilSheldon

      Yep. People who need to be insulated against anything approaching physical or emotional discomfort, are not going to do well against people for whom self-sacrifice is a cultural requirement.