What? You thought I was gone after that incident at Wal-Mart?
Fuck em, I say! Here’s one that’s been chapping my hide for a while:
Embarrassing admission: I have been watching the TV show “She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.” I’m not, in general, a fan of the superhero genre; but after “Orphan Black” I’ll watch anything starring Tatiana Maslany.
Given your propensity to eat shit out off a faded linoleum floor, ironically this is the least embarrassing thing you have ever said.
Anyway, one of the show’s plot points is that the title character is reluctant to reveal her superpowers. Why? Among other things, she’s worried (correctly, it turns out) that once people know what she can do she’ll have a hard time paying off her student loans.
I don’t think the writers were trying to make a political statement. They were just acknowledging the pervasiveness of student debt — and anxiety about student debt — in modern America. And that pervasiveness is why Republicans’ attacks on President Joe Biden’s debt-relief policy — which they generally portray as a giveaway either to privileged elites or to lazy spendthrifts — are likely to fall flat.Let’s talk about the numbers. The Biden administration says that its plan will provide relief to as many as 43 million Americans. That’s a lot of people, not a small, cosseted elite. In particular, data from the New York Fed say that more than 12 million Americans in their 30s — more than a quarter of that age group — still have unpaid student debt.
I’m old enough to remember when admitting to having personal debts was shameful. That might account for why so many are burdened by debts now than previous generations.
What this means is that even if you subscribe to the Trump diner theory of politics — according to which the only voters who matter are blue-collar guys wearing baseball caps — you should be aware that some of those guys probably took out loans to attend trade schools or community colleges, all too often getting nothing but debt in return. Even among those who didn’t take out student loans, many probably have children, siblings, cousins or friends who did. So the Biden plan will touch many people.
But MAGA, where’s my penis? Moral equivalency, trade skoolz, hurr durr
They also get jobs and paid them back you dumb shit. You also conveniently left out the part where trade schools cost significantly less, and advertise as such in their marketing materials, while also providing the entry-level expertise for in-demand jobs, some of which pay close to six figures.
In short, student debt relief isn’t some kind of niche elite concern; it’s a broad, one might even say populist, issue. Initial polling on the Biden plan is somewhat mixed, with an Emerson College survey showing much stronger support than a CBS/YouGov survey. Even the latter survey, however, finds a majority of Americans approving of the plan; it even finds much less opposition among noncollege whites than you might have expected given that group’s general disapproval of all things Biden.
Well yeah, those retards work at Target.
The other prong of the right-wing response involves invoking personal responsibility — in effect, portraying the recipients of debt relief as welfare queens. Republican efforts on that front have, however, been extraordinarily tone-deaf.
Just on general political principles, telling tens of millions of Americans that they’re lazy and irresponsible — that they’re all, as Sen. Ted Cruz put it, like a “slacker barista” who wasted years “studying completely useless things” — seems … not smart.
Well as the saying goes, fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.
To be brutally honest, that sort of caricature may have worked for Republicans when the insults were directed at urban Black people. But it’s likely to backfire when we’re talking about a broad spectrum of Americans who were just trying to move up in the world.
Furthermore, many of the most prominent critics of debt relief are almost comically out of touch, hypocritical, or both. Actually, scratch the “almost.”
For example, Sen. Marco Rubio has proudly declared that he paid off all his student debt — after being elected to the Senate and getting a book contract. Why can’t everyone do that?
On the hypocrisy front, the White House is having a field day mocking Republican members of Congress whose businesses received debt forgiveness under the Paycheck Protection Program. It’s true that debt relief for employers who maintained their workforces in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic was built into that program; it’s also true that later research suggests that only about a quarter of PPP funds supported jobs that would otherwise have disappeared. The rest was, in effect, a giveaway to business owners.
Hey shithead…There were people against that, and against nearly every other measure implemented in response to the goddamn COVID hysteria. Why were we not consulted before that cash grab?
More generally, it’s hard to take lectures on personal responsibility seriously when they come from a movement full of people — from Donald Trump, famous for stiffing his contractors, on down — who have long refused to pay money they owe. It’s hard to beat the spectacle of Stephen Moore, whom Donald Trump tried to appoint to the Federal Reserve, calling people who don’t pay their debts “deadbeats”; after all, Moore’s nomination failed in part because it turned out that he had refused to pay his ex-wife $300,000 in child support and alimony.
Alimony is form of robbery and he’s right to not pay that thieving cunt.
Now, none of this means that the Biden plan should be exempt from criticism, although the vehemence with which some centrists have attacked it remains puzzling. Above all, the plan offers some one-time relief, but it doesn’t solve the underlying problem that led to all that student debt — which isn’t a proliferation of slacker baristas; it’s a society that demands educational credentials for many jobs without making education affordable.
The thing is, Biden tried to address this underlying problem; free community college was part of his original Build Back Better proposal. But he couldn’t get it through Congress. He is, however, offering some real help to millions of Americans — and Republicans clearly have no idea how to respond.
Because making something “free” somehow makes it less expensive. Maybe the problem is the system incentives students to continue accruing more debt. Student loans are deferable while the debtor is actively a student. So that means you sign up for a couple classes and you can continue not paying them—legally. Meanwhile the student is either making no income or just enough to keep them living in their parent’s house so in order to enroll they take on more debt. From their standpoint its a self lubricating buttplug.
This doesn’t even begin to get into the other side of the issue of guaranteeing the loans, so the colleges themselves have no incentive to decrease their costs nor do they assume any risk whatsoever for enrolling a student that can’t string two coherent thoughts together to save their life.
I hate debt, it makes me uncomfortable. I pay my credit card bills in full monthly, I don’t think of it as debt, just using someone else’s money as a convenience.
My wife, son and I had no college debts, it just didn’t occur to us that borrowing money for school was a winning strategy. Of course, tuition was a lot less as well.
Tuition was lower but I also worked 4 years before going to college so I wouldn’t have loans. I know. Delayed gratification is old fashioned.
It’s really too simple for a giant intellect like Krugnuts to understand:
Whoever borrowed the money, should pay back the money, under the agreed-upon terms.
Semi-fascist!
I know its early for an OT. Sue me. Did you see this?
Switzerland Is No. 1 in 2022 U.S. News Best Countries Rankings
The two countries I have lived in are in the top 4!
Ask them again how much they care about that when they’re standing in line for their bread allotment.
The best ranking I can think of is “net migration”.
Of course, there are legal impediments to that, as North Korea is approximately zero, which puts them right at average.
That’s certainly what I look for in a country. 🙄
It looks like it is as shitty as their college rankings.
Who? Me? I have no idea what this all about….
/runs from room
Arbeit macht frei!
Arbeit macht Geld.
Geld macht frei?
Geld mach’ verkauft!
My sister had holes in her pockets. She regularly asked to borrow money. I started charging interest. It didn’t stop her even as the rates went up. Eventually she complained to mom. Mom told me to stop charging high rates. She told my sister to pay the money back as agreed.
Just on general political principles, telling tens of millions of Americans that they’re lazy and irresponsible — that they’re all, as Sen. Ted Cruz put it, like a “slacker barista” who wasted years “studying completely useless things” — seems … not smart.
But calling half the country racist and fascist is totally okay.
telling tens of millions of Americans that they’re lazy and irresponsible
If the shoe fits….
What else would you call people who borrow money and then expect others to be forced to pay it back for them?
Calling a barista a slacker is unfair, but if they have a degree and are a barista then yes, they studied something useless.
The deal is much worse than just forgiving existing debt. It restructures the entire system so that minimum payments are lower and the entire debt is forgiven after a set number of years.
It’s a massive bailout of higher ed and it incentivizes stiffing the taxpayer for everything you can.
I keep going back to this, but the most expensive universities are sitting on BILLIONS in endowments.
To be fair, the most expensive universities also no longer allow student loans. All or most of the Ivies did away with it a few years back, instituting a sliding scale of tuition instead.
Did he actually look at the statistics? From what I’ve seen most debt is used for advanced degrees and grad school. I’m also seeing a lot of people with degrees working in jobs where that degree is not helpful. Are there really a lot of “_____ studies” people working in restaurants and retail?
A lot of them are in HR, Marketing, and Comms departments
it’s a society that demands educational credentials for many jobs without making education affordable.
Swing, and a miss.
That’s worse than a miss. That’s like pirouetting all the way around and whacking the umpire on the side of the head with the bat.
Can you explain it in nba metaphors?
Like Shaq shooting free throws.
…with his feet
Shooting an airball and chasing after it, crashing into the basket support and knocking yourself out.
I would have gone with chasing it into the stands and hurting yourself and others at the same time.
But, I am generally in agreement here.
Sitting down to watch something entertaining but watching NBA instead.
LOL
Layup on wrong basket.
Please, the government, stop trying to “make education affordable”.
What percentage of people who studied engineering and are good at it cannot pay college bedts in the US, compared to the general student population? I figure if my parents – as a thought crossed their mind all to shortly – would have moved to the us in 1990 as some of their colleagues did, i probably would have still gone for engineering were i raised in the US. Though in the early 2000s i assume tuition was cheaper
It all depends on the school you attend. I went to a local branch of Purdue and lived at home. In five years I got two degrees, in Electrical Engineering Technology and Computer Information Systems, and thanks to some scholarships I came out with zero debt. I just attended a financial aid meeting with my youngest, and we’re looking at $20k per year to go away to school.
Honestly as romanian immigrants and as their nature was even among Romanians, my parents would have probably saved up some and discouraged debt. My personality is the same. So living at home and probably a lower cost university would have been for me.
I went to school at Georgia Tech with a Romanian immigrant. He parents escaped (and it sounds like it pretty much was that) in the mid 80s.
He went to High School in Georgia, so was local.
free community college was part of his original Build Back Better proposal. – i dont think the high debt wokies would deign to go to community college even if free
Because making something “free” somehow makes it less expensive.
These are people who claim electric vehicles are “zero emissions” with a straight face.
Out of sight, out of mind.
If you can get food from the supermarket without those icky farmers, you should be able to get electricity from the charging point without that messy generating business
Another factor driving this is credentialism. Businesses need to stop requiring degrees to the detriment of experience.
I got an engineering degree but I literally could have learned to do everything I do on a daily basis on the job.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.
Part of the problem.
The thing is, Duke was almost surely being assholes (see also, Duke University). But that decision made credentialism mandatory.
Jeez… while the current SCOTUS is busy invalidating obviously wrong, politically motivated decisions they might want to take a hard look at that one.
I only skimmed, but shouldn’t that ruling have ended credentialism? From Burger’s majority opinion:
The Biden administration says that its plan will provide relief to as many as 43 million Americans.
Why do I smell bullshit?
Check your shoes
The best part of the walmart meltdown is the fucking kids bookbag. Of course she had a meltdown.
Right now, I wish I had a fuck-ton of debt.
No you dont
Yeah this is a terrible time to have a lot of debt.
Yeah, I know.
Still feeling like a chump.
You are looking to buy right? In 6 months-ish you will have a lot of options.
Yeah. Although I’m really thinking long and hard about it. This market hasn’t dropped like I expected and I kind of like renting!
There are other assets, after all.
👆👆
I’m getting out of a piece of real estate just in time. That cash is reserved for emergencies and possible bottom-dollar purchases the likes of which we haven’t seen for decades.
Purchase price > (read more important than) interest rate.
Do people really do this? That seems like way more work than just paying your bills on time.
Oh yeah they do.
I know a couple from right before the dotcom bust. It didn’t end well for them.
Thought about it more and now realize that. No wonder I see people running around with so many things I know they can’t afford. I know people are pretty unintelligent, I r too, but this just depressing. I wish they wouldn’t take me down with them.
But if you are looking for a used car…there should be some available soon.
Nope. All my vehicles are paid off. Only debt I have is a home mortgage.
There was a great video a short while ago that discussed “shorting the dollar”. Basically buying tangible things of value with cheap credit, then letting inflation make that debt meaningless.
Based on Powell’s recent actions, that may not be advisable.
But barring a nuclear holocaust, the time will come when all those eurodollars start returning to the country of origin and we go Zimbabwe. I just don’t have a clue when that will be.
Sorry for the OT but does anybody have any idea what is going on here?
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said sabotage could not be ruled out. “We are talking about three leaks with some distance between them, and that’s why it is hard to imagine that it is a coincidence,” she said.
In my mind there are four possibilities or combinations thereof:
USA, UK, Poland, Ukraine
With the possible knowledge of the German government which has been under public pressure to open the valves.
I guess the Ukes could have paid somebody to do it – they certainly have enough of my tax-dollars rolling in to buy a team.
I’ll buy any of the above. I’d imagine only the US and UK capable of it, however.
OT that may be of interest.
DID A FAMOUS DOCTOR’S COVID SHOT MAKE HIS CANCER WORSE?
TW- The Atlantic.
Spare me.
The Swedish National Seismic Network (SNSN) said on Tuesday that powerful underwater explosions had been registered in the area of gas leaks from the Nord Stream pipeline.
That didn’t take long – Government says Germany will keep 2 of its 3 remaining nuclear power plants running until April 2023
Luckily I live in a state with 4 nuke plants and no plans to shut them down any time soon.
So I’m assuming that Russia will be forced to depressurize the lines and further collapse is possible. There’s got to be some bulkheads that limit damage to the entire line.
Anybody with underwater pipeline experience on here?
Now I’m picturing Greta in a snorkel suit, sabotaging evil pipelines.
With this logo on the shoulder of her diving suit.
How dare you!
Looks like they found some surveillance footage:
https://youtu.be/G_tffw7g_dE?t=804
All your base are belong to us
Brand new pipelines with just enough gas to keep it pressurized don’t suddenly rupture in 3 different spots for no reason.
Somebody decided that the Germans would be too tempted to turn on the Russian gas this winter so now Nord Stream 2 has been destroyed. Poland, the UK, or American SEALS / UDT would be first guesses. I don’t see the Russians blowing up their own pipeline when they could blow up Norway’s and put even more pressure on the Germans.
Another minor act of war by people who really want a big war.
Only way to sell more arms.
Probably us.
This doesn’t even begin to get into the other side of the issue of guaranteeing the loans, so the colleges themselves have no incentive to decrease their costs nor do they assume any risk whatsoever for enrolling a student that can’t string two coherent thoughts together to save their life.
We’re all Thinkologists now
Hey shithead…There were people against that, and against nearly every other measure implemented in response to the goddamn COVID hysteria. Why were we not consulted before that cash grab?
He’s not wrong on this one part about Republican Congressmen. Before coming out against further payments back to the citizens, almost every one of them voted to line their own pockets with taxpayers’ money. Respect for those few GOP congressmen who opposed both cash grabs.
I’ll say that I don’t really understand the proportion of outrage about the student loan payoff. It’s wrong and an obvious gift from the party in power to their supporters. But it’s far from unprecedented and is peanuts in comparison to the wealth transfer scams already being run. The 20% being stolen out of every one of my paychecks to be redistributed to those on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid is forefront among those. The student loan forgiveness is just another redistribution of wealth by the government to line their own pockets as the money passes through the schools, NGOs, etc. The whole debt focus is a red herring to the actual point of looting taxpayers and grabbing the money as it passes by.
Because it’s not actually a bailout of the students, it’s a bailout of the worst people in the country, universities and higher ed.
I want those grifting, fraudulent, commies to eat gruel.
Because it’s not actually a bailout of the students, it’s a bailout of the worst people in the country, universities and higher ed.
I’m pretty black pilled at this point on education. I’ve seen a lot of discussion on Glibs over the past few years and in the above article about education and the free market. And everything seems to come back to how the government is distorting the free market of education through their actions that is propping it up. And then usually something about the GOP being the stupid party or the Dems not understanding the results of their actions.
I think it’s a faulty premise to start from that there is any sort of free market education system or that it needs a bailout. The schools are in effect government institutions with the intent to indoctrinate and control the population. And it will be funded as needed to maintain that just like any other government system. Whether that funding comes through debt forgiveness or through direct payments right to the schools (as in Europe, as we’re starting to see with pre-K and community college) doesn’t really matter.
The schools are in effect government institutions with the intent to indoctrinate and control the population
This also applies to state funded private schools, too. Even a penny of govlove comes with a stack of regs and requirements a mile long.
Oh, and don’t forget that a fairly significant reason for the education system being the way it is is to get mommy out of the house and into the workforce like a good little tax cow.
Sorry for the OT but does anybody have any idea what is going on here?
I blame Big LNG.
Jerry Jones is behind this.
He thinks forcing the other 3/4 to pay for it and get nothing in return is a defense for his position. He really is a certain kind of special.
Leftists Announce They No Longer Support Strong, Independent Women
Money shot:
At publishing time, Stacey Abrams stepped forward to announce that the Prime Minister position in Italy had been stolen from her.
Anyway, one of the show’s plot points is that the title character is reluctant to reveal her superpowers. Why? Among other things, she’s worried (correctly, it turns out) that once people know what she can do she’ll have a hard time paying off her student loans.
Wait, that’s a real plot point? I’ve heard a decent amount of criticism regarding the show, but not this incredibly stupid one.
I don’t recall that plot point at all. It was more that she didn’t want to be a superhero, but just a lawyer.
I got stuck at the green broad twerking.
I didn’t watch it because the whole thing seemed pretty ridiculous to me.
A female lawyer? Yeah right.
Touché sir!
*Wipes snark from sweater vest
Are they telling us that a lawyer in New York doesn’t make enough money to make student loan payments?
I’ve talked to several 30-something attorneys that have complained about the burden of student loans. Apparently being 8 to 10 years out of school doesn’t mean a big paycheck. While law school definitely mean lots of dollars spent getting that degree.
I may have mentioned skipping grad school and becoming an engineer instead.
Maybe research the field you’re going into?
5 years out from law school, the only thing that matters is if you are any good at the job.
I went to a minor, but cheap, law school. My first 5-7 years were slow. Then it didn’t matter, because I tried cases well. I moved up.
I also knew an honors graduate from Yale Law, but she had the work ethic of a 3 toed sloth. Ended up teaching somewhere…
100%
God help me… he’s not wrong.
Tatiana Maslany is an incredibly talented actress, and she deserves far better than to be part of a bunch of 30-something borderline alcoholic SWFs group therapy session…
☝️ 👉👃
LOL!
Haha!
Ha!
This is the one that brought me to his site.
LOL
So I’m assuming that Russia will be forced to depressurize the lines and further collapse is possible. There’s got to be some bulkheads that limit damage to the entire line.
I was surprised by how much pressure they were holding in that pipeline. It must be really deep. Too deep for frogmen.
I just read that the explosions could have been in shallower water, and whose purpose was to cause an avalanche to destroy the pipeline below.
Two words: submarines.
Perhaps: The Americans have declared war on Europe
Who sabotaged these pipelines deep underwater?
Now even if the Europeans decide to make peace with the Russians, they’ll still freeze this winter. Thus, there’s no pressure to come to terms. Gonzalo Lira has the rundown.
C’mon, man. I mean, it’s Germany! What are they gonna do?
We’re all gonna be dead by spring time.
Frozen or nuclear holocaust?
The answer is likely “yes”.
Europe will be frozen over. Iowa will be blanketed with nuclear fall out.
Rich geezers with government connections will be hiding deep in bunkers and fucking supermodels.
Still wouldn’t rule out Poland but – a couple of months ago exactly where the pipeline blew up – BALTOPS 22.
UUV = Unmanned Underwater Vehicle / drone
From Satan’s own mouth:
Victoria Nuland: “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”
The Neo-Cons have come completely unhinged. They have less restraint than a drunk 15-year-old and think it’s funny that we are sabotaging infrastructure so Germans will freeze this winter while their economy collapses.
Who Will Rid Me of This Meddlesome Pipeline?
Who will rid me of these meddlesome neo-cons?
Celebrating a crime against humanity. That SOB deserves the guillotine.
You might want to embrace the 48 hour rule… hot takes can be mighty embarrassing if too quick…
“Drake on August 29, 2022 at 4:16 pm (Edit)
Looks around at the news…
Looks like Iraq and Pakistan are collapsing. The Ukraine launched a counter-offensive that immediately failed. European energy prices are so out of control, they are ready to try anything – other than giving up on the pointless war in the Ukraine and making nice with the Russians.
…”
Also, wasn’t this yours?
“Drake on September 21, 2022 at 8:22 am (Edit)
Closing the spicket – and redirecting it elsewhere. Russia says pipeline to China will replace Nord Stream 2.” [with link to: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/russia-says-pipeline-china-will-replace-nord-stream-2-2942711“]
I am going to wait… it could have been anything from Ukes hiring someone, Godzilla, the Russians flipping off the EU, or the USN.
YES. GODZILLA. SEA SMITH NOWHERE NEAR PIPELINE.
IT NOT SEA SMITH. HE SWEAR HE NO RAPE PIPELINE!!!!
SMITH FAMILY LAY PIPE, NOT DESTROY IT!
LOL
Seriously?
I need to get work done today.
How am I supposed to get anything done now?
“I don’t know, how will you…?”
That’s it. I’m done.
I’m not much one for conspiracy theories except in jest. But if this is sabotage, there is only one leader dumb enough and evil enough to authorize this.
Well, there’s this…
https://www.reuters.com/world/cia-warned-berlin-about-possible-attacks-gas-pipelines-summer-spiegel-2022-09-27/
“We’re going to the demilitarized zone, which is a zon that lacks a military presence because it is demilitarized.”
Vice President Kamala Harris will visit the Demilitarized Zone separating the Koreas on Thursday in a bid to show Washington’s commitment to the South’s security, according to U.S. and South Korean officials.
The visit, announced Tuesday, comes days after North Korea fired a ballistic missile towards the sea and amid fears of a possible nuclear test as the Biden administration’s attempts at outreach to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un have failed.
They are planning on letting Harris speak, and Kim Jong Un laughing to death…
Harris will be at an actually secured border.
They’re dumb enough to send a mixed race woman to Korea, but are they dumb enough to make her wear red?
The East Is Red.
If only
Cyclone of stupidity.
Sen. Klobuchar (D) implies that a Democrat majority would stop hurricanes.
“We’ve gotta win this as that hurricane bears down on Florida.”
Democrats will stop hurricanes. It is known.
+1 Climate Change!
Inconvenient truth.
There’s a reason she’s called “Special K.”
On e of the local radio guys always referred to her as “Busty Amy Klobuchar.”
if Old Cnut the Great could not do it…
The Ofcom Song – 186 Words Not To Use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ZoeYze-og
poor George only had 7
OMG!
Perfect. Thanks, Pie! This should ruffle some feathers!
Nonce is used in cryptography. I guess it needs to be changed like master was.
i think Nonce i a brit thing for pedo, not american
Context doesn’t matter to these types.
Ginger made the list.
The reason for it’s creation is stupid, but it’s a pretty fun document.
The missed a great opportunity by not including definitions, though.
and examples
I took out student loans for my graduate degree. My parents probably would have covered it if I asked, but they paid for my fancy private undergrad degree, so it didn’t feel right to ask them. Anyway, I decided that the only way my graduate degree made sense was if I went to a top 10 school that would be foolish enough to admit me. Otherwise the bump in earnings wouldn’t be enough to offset the cost plus the lost wages for two years. If the top schools were smart enough to reject me, I’d just try again the next year. Came out with about 60K in loans and paid them of early. Now I feel like a chump for doing a little thinking and planning ahead.
JP strikes again: My Unbelievable Interview with Biden!
Karin Diversity Hire really is the gift that keeps on giving.
Doocy doesn’t even look like he’s having fun with this shit anymore.
I dunno, he looked like he was stifling a laugh…
Who will rid us of this meddlesome cunte?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-zealand-prime-minister-calls-global-censorship-system
Spoiler alert: Ardern and her buddies get to define what is hateful and dangerous.
“having to combat those who question climate change”
SCIENCE!
OT: Story of America captured on a box of butter. {Land O’Lakes)
They removed the Native — but kept the land.
*Standing ovation*
As a side note, using the Indian maiden’s knees to make boobs that would be exposed when you flipped the logo up was the height of middle school entertainment.