Links of a Saturday evening

by | Oct 28, 2023 | Daily Links | 243 comments

You know what this means, right? Yeah, it means all the leaves are on the friggin’ ground.

So what’s going on in the world? Anything? I mean other than tip toeing our way into WWIII? I need to toss a couple of links in, but I will try and see if there’s something else worth talking about on a Saturday evening.

 

Let’s link!

 

Tayyip wants attention. I think this could also be interpreted as “please don’t start rioting in Turkey”.

 

So long, Mike. We hardly knew ya. Actually, we did know you, and that’s why you’re dropping out early.

 

Much targets for derision here.

 

Have you ever wondered what happened to “piss Jesus”?

 

Oh, wait! There’s still a war in Ukraine. Here’s some propaganda.

 

OFFS.

 

We lost Bull.

 

Okay, folks. That’s it for me. Time to watch Boise lose to Wyoming.

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243 Comments

  1. Sean

    Fuck Mike Pence.

    • Sean

      I’d vote for Obama before ever thinking about voting for Pence. Yeah, I said it.

      • milo

        I can’t go that far. I do understand your intent.

    • Don escaped Texas

      @EricBoehm87 Mike Pence realizes he won’t win the nomination of the Hang Mike Pence Party after all

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        This. Dumbass did more to piss off the base than most of team blue.

    • tarran

      I wonder if Mike Pence feels any shame in having fired the starting gun in the movement that shut down all the churches in the United States for months or even years. It was he who elevated Fauci and Birx do be the people in charge of Covid management. It was he who shielded them from the immediate pushback they got for their idiotic ideas. Without Pence’s support, the lockdowns would not have happen.

      I would think a devout Christian would feel some regret if he unleashed the minions of Caesar to shut down the House of God. I would think he would demonstrate contrition publicly for the harm he did.

      For someone who wears his religion on his sleeve, he’s been remarkably quiet.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Pence is first and foremost an establishment politician. No shame, no regret.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        He will get the best Shirley Temples at all the cocktail parties.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        The good Italian cherries?

      • Winston

        Yes, the supposed Nice Guy Republican was an enthusiastic Covidocrat. Cause all we need are Nice Guy technocrats to fix everything.

      • milo

        The Christian thing was a shield. Or that is what he was thinking it was.
        I’m not sure that it is even necessary any longer.
        At least as far as the “elite” are concerned.
        The “elite” have really not studied the history of Christianity. Went up against the world order…subsumed the world order. Became the world order.
        I would not bet against it.

      • westernsloper

        How did Pence pull this off without the consent of President Warp Speed?

      • milo

        He didn’t. Pence can barely pull off his own socks as near as I can tell.
        Before you rant against me…he accepted the VP position back then.
        If he did it to rail against the admin…well…
        First of all, he was guilty of treason wasn’t he? He must have been working against the constitutionally-elected administration of which he was part of.
        Again…treason.
        I’m assuming that he was not guilty of that, so I guess the best that can be said is that he was a goddamn idiot.
        HERE…we can agree that Trump was a fucking moron for keeping enemies so close to him.
        I would argue it was trust…you can argue it was idiocy.
        We agree.
        I argue we are all screwed and it is way too late.

      • The Hyperbole

        If you go through your presidency and hired one asshole, well you hired an asshole, If you go through your presidency and everyone you hired is and asshole…

      • milo

        You are surrounded by assholes. Let’s stipulate that.
        The only primary question is if hiring only assholes was your intent.
        If not, then why are you surrounded by assholes? Surely, you would have made sure it was not so.
        Except…maybe there are outside powers making it so.
        Secondly…you just might be surrounded by people that do not bear you good will.
        Their only purpose is to make sure that the assholes get into your inner circle.
        It’s happened before. Not outside reality.
        No excuses for Trump.
        Just need for everyone to apply it to every cocksucker before and after him.
        Bidenomics?????

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        If your presidency requires hiring in Washington D.C… Everyone you hired is an asshole, and it says nothing about you.

      • The Hyperbole

        You are the President you hire who you want to, there are no requirements.

      • milo

        You are so, precious.
        I think that has already been answered.

    • rhywun

      LOL “suspends” his campaign. I forgot about that chestnut.

      • Gender Traitor

        Ideally, he hangs it by the neck until it’s dead.

      • rhywun

        It’s the most comically transparent bullshit euphemism evar.

        Sorry, Mike, your campain is d-e-d.

      • Pat

        It’s important as a legal distinction so that the debts incurred by the campaign survive as belonging to the campaign as a going concern rather than to the principals.

      • rhywun

        Ah, clever.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And still receive donations, I believe.

      • Pat

        Yes.

  2. The Late P Brooks

    I had no idea Moll was that old.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Only Dan and Roz are left.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Errr, Quon Le? John Astin and Yakov Smirnoff!

      • Grumbletarian

        Brent Spiner.

      • Ted S.

        He’s a hoot in Out to Sea

      • rhywun

        He was on Night Court? Surely not a regular. THough I did not watch to the bitter end.

      • Sean

        7 episodes per IMDB

      • rhywun

        “arrested for vagrancy”

        Wow… truly a different age.

      • Rat on a train

        That Yugoslavian menace.

    • Don escaped Texas

      John Larroquette lived in the Ninth Ward back before white people ever thought of blowing the levees

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Larroquette is a hardcore book collector, which was featured on his solo show, the John Larroquette show.

      • rhywun

        That show was quite good. Got to thinking of it again during my 9,000th viewing of Galaxy Quest.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        It was a favorite of mine during the run up to my first marriage. I was well ensconced in the book business that whole time.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      I thought he was already dead.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Uuuuu-kay.

      • rhywun

        That was his catchphrase? (I read in an article.)

        That show seems to have vanished from the airwaves so I forgot all of it.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Is it still on Laff?

      • rhywun

        I don’t know what that is.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        One of those over-the-air sub-channels.

      • rhywun

        Ah. Unknown to me.

        Since moving to smalltown it’s sometimes a challenge figuring out exactly what is available to me, especially the “local” channels – which are not actually local – and their subchannels.

    • milo

      Look in the mirror. If you even know who Moll was…you are oldish.
      59+ here.

  3. tarran

    It’s a shame that Barbara Tuchman wrote an excellent history of how World War I started, since the title she used for her book would be a great title for the history written about what’s happening with the west right now: The March of Folly

    Now someone will have to come up with another title and it just won’t be as cool.

      • Raven Nation

        *Standing ovation*

    • Don escaped Texas

      Slow Thighs

      is still available

  4. Gustave Lytton

    Missed the cider review. Think the last time I had one was when Woodchuck was the only option long before this silly cider craze started.

    I do like regular apple cider. Frost last night, time for a hot mug of it.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    Oh, no. The Ukrainians have been upstaged by Gaza. Not fair.

    • Lackadaisical

      At least there is some sense of national interest in helping Russia lose. Not sure what a bunch of desert people messing with each other has to do with us at all.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        A lot of Americans have family in Israel. Not to mention the number of Americans who were kidnapped by Hamas recently.

        Also, guilt from the Holocaust runs deep with many people.

      • Pat

        I dare say there’s likely more people with Russian (which is to say, also Ukrainian) heritage in the United States than Israeli. Although I don’t think there’s one iota more national interest in helping Russia lose than helping Israel win, except for some leftover cold war jingoism, which doesn’t seem to be the motivating factor in light of the fact that the strongest proponents for regime change in Moscow are the same people who spent the ’60s through the ’90s castigating America as an imperialist hegemon while Russia was still a worker’s paradise.

      • Sensei

        There are roughly 7.6m Jews in the U.S.

        I’d take a flyer and say at least 50% likely could name an Israeli relative.

      • Pat

        There’s about 2.5 million self-reported “Russian-Americans,” but considering the historical assimilation of “white people” into an American collective, the number of people with Russian ancestry is probably a lot higher — including a substantial number of American Jews who came by way of Russia. In any case, I don’t think either group’s familial ties to their respective motherland in a population of 320-some million is sufficient to justify our involvement in either shit hole.

      • Sensei

        I’ve never advocated our involvement in either spot.

        I also pissed off more than a few Jews here when the US was guaranteeing Israel’s loans.

        No idea if that continues, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all.

      • milo

        Stay out of all of it.
        Once again…please explain the negatives of isolationism again?
        Bring manufacturing back here again. Bring any derivative of our intellectual property on shore again.
        We are the biggest consumer pool, right?
        It will not happen overnight.
        I suspect that we will be in a much stronger position on trade during this transition.
        Unless, our stronger position is a bad thing.

      • Pat

        I’ve never advocated our involvement in either spot.

        I didn’t mean to suggest that, I was just expanding on the connection Zwak brought up with regards to Jewish-American ties to Israeli influencing our interests there.

      • Pat

        We are the biggest consumer pool, right?

        That’s the trouble with a global marketplace. China and India are each 4-5x larger. Granted, they have less purchasing power at this moment in time, but that represents a growth opportunity, whereas America is economically stagnant and would be declining rapidly in population if not for huge population influxes from immigration (legal and otherwise).

      • milo

        Those markets can be 4-5 times bigger. If we are the sellers…isn’t that a good thing?
        Understanding this will take decades to happen?
        We have more buyers during those years.
        I thought that was good.
        Jeebus. I’m feeling stupid.
        Explain it to me.

      • Pat

        Access to those consumer markets can be combined with labor cost arbitrage for the dual benefit of creating a new consumer class for your products while also exploiting the differential in labor cost in the mean time, such that you produce goods less expensively while selling them to a larger (and expanding) overall market of consumers. Or: why make money only on the front end when there’s as much to be made on the back end? Free trade means not having to choose one or the other.

      • milo

        At the end of the day…isn’t it more important to care about the people around you first?
        I’m sure you do.
        Everything you said is what the globalists have said the last 3 decades. We are all so very much better off after all of this…right??
        A lot of commodities are cheaper. TV’s. Electronics.
        Can’t eat a TV.
        I have seen the little towns I grew up in disappear. Still not sure how that is a good thing.
        I know that even if we started bringing it all back, it would take decades. Still…the process would give those people hope. Is that a bad thing?

      • Don escaped Texas

        how that is a good thing

        markets and choices; economics explains most things, but it doesn’t score them as good or not

      • milo

        Economics happen because of humans.
        Self-evident, right?
        Humans decide to move most of their manufacturing outside their nation. Makes sense on paper.
        Most of what is defined as the middle class disappears over the next 40 years.
        Now, we have our leaders actually interfering with stopping illegal immigration over cutting border fences.
        Causation..blah, blah.
        Blow smoke up the other one.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Only your morals can decide if something, anything, is good or bad.

        Mostly we, and I mean both the country and this forum, are trying to stake out what team they are on, and maybe, maybe get someone to join.

      • milo

        I’m trying to do the same as far as getting someone to think a different way.
        Our morals have already agreed on certain things, yes?
        Murder is bad. Rape is bad.

      • Pat

        At the end of the day…isn’t it more important to care about the people around you first?

        Don and Zwak pretty much answered this: free market economics is amoral. That is to say, it’s concerned only with the most efficient allocation of goods and services. It’s a pretty lousy guiding principle for the manner in which humans ought to treat one another because it lacks any ethical guidance or limitations. Theoretically, you participate in the free market in accordance with your personal ethics, understanding the limitations of economics. Practically speaking, what this means is that those with the fewest personal ethical limitations will achieve the best allocation of resources, with the predictable result of elevating sociopaths to the highest economic success. Libertarianism, because of its deliberately ecumenical minimalist ethics constrained strictly to the realm of the political and not the personal, causes the same problem in political economy. Basically, despite the Utopian pretensions of the classical liberal Enlightenment political theorists and their modern libertarian progeny, you can’t really have a moral society with amoral governance. I’ve begun several articles on the subject over the last year or so, but ultimately scrapped them all, and that’s basically what they amounted to anyway.

      • milo

        I appreciate your answer.
        Pure freemarket behavior without the last few hundreds of years of guidance…your term…would be a very dark thing.
        I propose that it is dark enough. Given its history.
        What my argument is; is that the engine that moves the economic engine along is the humans behind it.
        Otherwise, it would not exist.

      • Pat

        What my argument is; is that the engine that moves the economic engine along is the humans behind it.
        Otherwise, it would not exist.

        True enough. But how do you put the genie back in the bottle? Self-evidently you get the most economically optimal outcomes by discarding high minded ethical considerations. Whatever comforting fibs we’d like to tell ourselves, we all tacitly acknowledge this every time we walk up to the checkout register with a basket full of goods produced by the hands of half literate children, and ethnic and religious slaves. We may outsource the dirty work to places we don’t have to look at with our own two eyes, but we nonetheless benefit from it. The corrective is either to use the violence of a government powerful enough for the task to forcibly produce ethical behavior, in which case that government becomes an instrument of oppression a thousand times worse than the object of the correction, or to set oneself to the utterly impossible task of convincing every human being to act contrary to his own self interest in order to advance a higher good.

      • Pat

        Incidentally, that’s also why I finally reached the conclusion, after half a lifetime of cognitive dissonance, that you can’t be a libertarian and a Christian simultaneously.

      • Pat

        That went in the wrong place, obviously.

      • milo

        Why not? I have a very personal reason to know your thinking.

      • milo

        Why not? I have a very personal reason to know your thinking.

      • Pat

        I don’t think you can plausibly lay claim to Christian morality personally while advocating a system of governance that necessarily undermines Christian morality corporately. Such individual/corporate dualism is a fiction by which one can pretend to hold to inviolable, absolute moral truths, yet hold no one accountable to them.

      • rhywun

        The Israel/Arab thing is muddled by being the focus of a bunch of shitstain commie assholes, for some reason that completely escapes me.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Arab nationalism was some degrees socialist, had support from the Warsaw Bloc, or was just anticolonialist. Also good old fashioned hate Amerikka or whatever the political establishment/cultural majority supports.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        It is the old Oppressor/Oppressed dynamic of the Marxist dialectic. If you switch to a Conqueror/Conquered dynamic, and look at is as the movement of peoples, the axis being – is your people expanding or contracting, much of history makes more sense.

        Or, as someone in a French book I am reading says “never get caught stealing without an excuse. Make the dialectic work for you!”

      • The Last American Hero

        A lot? About 6 million, or .5% of the country. Of course given the positions of power and the geographic location of said peoples in NY, it seems like a lot more.

      • Sensei

        Quick Google says a bit over 1m Americans of Ukrainian origin.

        I work with two…

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        I used to have one who worked for me. Insane in the Ukraine, girl was nutz.

      • Sean

        We have more illegals than Jews. Sad!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Imagine a world with matzo carts on every corner.

      • Lackadaisical

        ‘A lot of Americans have family in Israel.’

        That sounds like a ‘you’ problem, not a country’s problem. Sorry if that sounds crude, but national policy shouldn’t get driven by such concerns. Perhaps it is inevitable, that’s why Russia is in Ukraine right now I guess.

        ‘Not to mention the number of Americans who were kidnapped by Hamas recently.’
        This is a much better justification in my mind.

        ‘Also, guilt from the Holocaust runs deep with many people.’

        That is weird, do we have that many ex-nazis living here?

    • DEG

      The Ukrainians need to understand that the US can only let down one ally at a time. Israel outranks Ukraine, so Ukraine is out.

    • westernsloper

      WE MUST SUPPORT ALL WAR IT IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY!

  6. Ownbestenemy

    Feel bad for teen#1. His retail job at Harbor Freight is hounding him because he isn’t getting ‘enough numbers” (read personal information) per sale. He does his job, asks once and on a no he respects it.

    My only advice to him was that is what retail, especially one that works on selling that information, is. If you want to stay on retail, find a small business and sell your skill set and personality.

    Apparently a Play It Again Sports opened up and the owner came into his current job and said he should swing by. Now that could be come buy equipment or him poaching him. Doesn’t hurt to go check

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Ugh, the Radio Shack business model?

      • rhywun

        I bought a pair of shoes today and they wanted my phone number.

        Tight-lipped, “I’d rather not.”

        She didn’t press or anything, remained cheerful.

      • Don escaped Texas

        “no thank you”

      • Ownbestenemy

        He hates it. ‘Why would you give a number for a $2 tool?” Is what he said

      • prolefeed

        “Thanks, but I don’t date chicks.”

      • Rat on a train

        I had a few phone numbers memorized. Disneyland. The NSA, …

      • Sensei

        Pre internet the radio shack catalogue and sales circulars were a useful tradeoff for your name and address.

        – former salesperson.

    • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

      Also, be prepared to jump around. There are really good jobs in retail, such as at an industrial supplier like RSI or Grainger that you can work up too, but being at the low end of retail at a place like Harbor Freight is a dead end of low pay.

      • Ownbestenemy

        For out of high school…he makes 17/hr. Now I know with inflated minimum wages it’s not great but he shows up to 4am shifts, picks up extra shifts, stays longer when asked. I cannot believe they would be like ‘nah we need more personal information not a reliable person’

      • Grumbletarian

        I cannot believe they would be like ‘nah we need more personal information not a reliable person’

        Believe it. I did two years of retail middle management between technical gigs, and while I loved the people with whom I worked directly that shit really matters to the higher-ups.

      • Ownbestenemy

        So weird as Pat mentioned. They can buy that cheap. I guess numbers favor high turnover for phone/email harvesting.

    • Pat

      B&M retail outlets trying to harvest such trivial data at the expense of annoying and alienating their customers is pretty stupid when they could buy it from any of the online surveillance companies for pennies. As if you’re going to gain any significant insights by collecting my fake phone number and fake ZIP code when I come into Harbor Freight to buy some disposable chinkshit tool for a one-off job because it’s not worth buying a decent tool from a reputable supplier.

      • Ownbestenemy

        He has that read on his customers. He knows they are in for one and done cause they are in a pinch.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Whistling past the graveyard

    “Joe Biden is on the freedom, democracy and opportunity agenda that beat MAGA Republicans in 2020, in 2022, and will win again in 2024,” Ben Wikler, the Democratic party chair in the top battleground state of Wisconsin, told CNN. “Every hour that someone spends fantasizing about some other ticket is an hour they could have spent calling voters or raising money to help reelect President Biden and Vice President Harris.”

    Best President in history!

    • Fourscore

      Well, if you compare him to Woodrow Wilson maybe

      Taller than James Madison so there’s that

    • creech

      In latest poll in swing state PA,Biden leads Trump, even though comfortable majorities think Trump is better on economic and military preparedness issues. Seems Biden is deemed “more trustworthy.”. Looks like Hunter investigation still hasn’t washed over Joe.

      • Winston

        I can’t imagine why.

      • Don escaped Texas

        What percentage of partisanship is just a reflection of identity politics? Does anyone think a significant percentage of the electorate is making thoughtful analyses of facts with respect to timeless principles? How many Americans have changed their minds about anything in the past decade?

      • groat scotum

        Lots of Never Trumpers changed their minds about decades of ostensible arch-conservatism and committed themselves fully to Blue No Matter Who.

      • Pat

        How many Americans have changed their minds about anything in the past decade?

        Enough that the Overton window has shifted from “should gay marriage be legal?” to “should parents who refuse to cooperate with their underage child’s gender transition lose custody?” and the Millennials who yucked it about over Mitt Romney’s anachronistic Boomer gaffe about Russia being America’s chief geopolitical rival are now unironically agitating for a ground war with Russia.

      • Don escaped Texas

        it was a trick question given my hopeless caveat about timeless principles

      • rhywun

        If they run on abortion again like they did in 2022, Joe’s a shoo-in.

      • milo

        Really? That is so depressing.
        Vote for the brain dead.

      • Rat on a train

        According to the campaign ads I’m getting, Democrats will run on killing babies and porn in schools.

      • Sean

        That’s what I’m seeing too.

  8. J. Frank Parnell

    With the recent news of Snow White’s delay from March 22, 2024, to March 21, 2025,

    LOL it’s never going to come out in theaters, is it? At best it’ll get quietly added to Disney+ (if that’s still around in 2 years).

    • The Last American Hero

      The real suspension of disbelief is that the lead is somehow hotter than Gal Freakin Gadot?

      Sure.

  9. DEG

    Almost 50 years since the items were invented, mood rings, as well as other emotion-related accessories, have found a following again.

    The jewelry is brimming with nostalgia and the current cultural movement of being more open about feelings, according to The Financial Times.

    As long as bell bottoms don’t come back

    • Ted S.

      Bell-bottomed girls,
      You make the rockin’ world go ’round….

    • Sean

      Chicks dig big collars.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Yoga pants with flare legs…

    • Suthenboy

      Dude…bell bottoms have already come back and gone.

  10. Shpip

    “We don’t collect or show scandalous or controversial works in the museum. We show works in the museum that have been censored, assaulted, violated, banned,” he told AFP.

    The Buddhas of Bamiyan and the November 2011 edition of Charlie Hebdo were unavailable for comment.

    • westernsloper

      ASSBAGS UNITE!

      • KK, Non-Man

        I’m a sad assbag now

    • Swiss Servator

      I am here…drunk and alone. 🙁

      • CPRM

        I just logged in, now I’m sober and alone. I can rectify one of those myself…

      • R.J.

        Sorry dudes. It was a heck of a night. I just went to bed.

  11. Pat

    The museum also showcases a photograph of a crucifix submerged in the urine of New York artist Andres Serrano, which was vandalised during an exhibition in France and sparked an uproar when first shown in the United States in 1989.

    Nothing says stunning and brave like exhibiting 35 year old shit that was displayed in museums and critically fellated to stick it to those awful Christian theocrats during the fucking Reagan administration.

    • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

      35 year old piss. Please, get it right.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I once saw a Damien Hirst (I think) rotting sheep’s head in plexiglass. Worst thing I’ve ever smelled.

  12. R.J.

    Halloween party again tonight. So, so not into it. Very loud. Many kids. Wish to be at home.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Wish to be at home.

    Click your heels together three times.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I’ll be doing that tomorrow morning in hopes Frontier makes their flight

  14. Winston

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo

    Christ, I liked this guy’s Roman History videos. But going full Commie? Oh and the comment section has a lot of support. Oh and he uploads about twice a year and has a patreon account. Then again he was an obvious lefty judging by his previous videos so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

    • R.J.

      Everybody is going commie. The South Park guys are going to have to redo the “Everybody is Gay” song.

      • Winston

        Why is it that Communism is more popular then ever 30 years after its collapse?

        And this is after massive increases in prosperity, diversity tolerance, legal weed and secularism .

      • Pat

        Why is it that Communism is more popular then ever 30 years after its collapse?

        Because its actuality is now outside of the historical memory of a significant portion of the collective West, and, restored to its pristine theoretical Utopianism, it seems once again both noble and achievable.

      • Winston

        The inability of people to comprehend what life was like before them

      • Winston

        Screwed that up: The inability of people to comprehend what life was like before them is a common problem. The average person is more concerned about modern problems and not how much better off they are than a medieval peasant.

        Ironically the classical liberals were very guilty of this sort of thinking. They focused on the flaws, not benefits of society and dismissed the past as Dark Age nonsense. And what happened when people began to look at the problems of Industrisl and Commercial society and thought liberalism was Dark Age nonsense? It collapsed very quickly

      • Don escaped Texas

        +1

        – 4million starved Ukrainians

      • milo

        THIS!!!!!!!
        It’s outside their memory by design. Their textbooks do not even mention it.

      • Don escaped Texas

        okay, but we’re talking about people who unironically support ideas that are failing in Europe all day every day

      • milo

        Because of…
        How old are they?

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        It isn’t age, its insulation.

        They are in a place, physically, mentally, economically or socially, that protects them from the consequence of their actions, which happens in a wealthy society.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        The promise of utopia. A whole generation of college students have been inundated with Marxist theory in some form or other, and have entered into a society that is moribund. Combine this with that some generation having been raised by helicopter parents, it is no wonder that communism is appealing. It is bullshit on stilts, but there you go.

        The saving grace is that only 30% of the country have gone to college.

      • Fourscore

        But socialism sounds so good, we have Social Security and you don’t have to pay in (much) to get some back. My mother, who didn’t pay in much got some ’cause my dad and her next two husbands had paid while they worked. I’m not sure which generation is going to get stuck with my bill but it’s waaaaay in the future. The Shit Will Hit The Fan at some point and the young will rightfully turn against the old.

        I have said anyone getting money from the government should forfeit their vote, conflict of interest and one reason I don’t vote.

      • Don escaped Texas

        anyone getting money from the government

        good stuff, and I thought the same way until I started reading here that, well, I’m just getting back a bit of the money that was taken from me against my will; I find no fault with that logic

      • Pat

        I’m just getting back a bit of the money that was taken from me against my will

        In principle. Technically speaking, Social Security is a pay-as-you-go system. The money that was heisted from you was used to pay the previous generation of beneficiaries. The money that will be used to pay you when you become a beneficiary will be heisted from the next generation of beneficiaries. It’s not a ponzi scheme if the government does it…

      • Don escaped Texas

        pay-as-you-go

        everyone knows that, and it actually makes the case better: I’m paying for things I don’t believe in and am not actually getting myself and I don’t mind getting some of it back one way or the other

        I think it’s RCDean’s observation; all I’m saying is it’s a generally fair observation; FourScore started with SS, but RC’s rationale doesn’t turn on it, and I regret if anyone thinks that observation stood on it or needed it at all

      • Pat

        I don’t really disagree, money also being fungible, but there are those who, on the basis of the accounting technicality, will argue that you have no entitlement to the spoils of future thievery as recompense for the thievery to which you were previously subjected. It would be an interesting conundrum in the event of an orderly dissolution of a government, in that government has no resources other than those which it confiscated from another, and therefore can’t make recompense to its victims from its assets without further violating its victims. Thankfully, it’s a purely theoretical conundrum since governments are never dissolved peacefully.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Why is it that Communism is more popular then ever 30 years after its collapse?

        Umm, hello, real Communism hasn’t been tried, so like, how could it have collapsed?

  15. Winston

    https://www.aier.org/article/how-trump-and-biden-are-blowing-up-the-free-trade-system-america-worked-so-hard-to-build/

    Didn’t Joe Biden vote for NAFTA and the WTO? Weathervanes are nice when they go in your direction.

    Presidentially led tariff negotiations proved revolutionary in advancing free trade. Far better than Congress, the presidency has resisted the political pressure of protectionist lobbyists.

    Also the Imperial Presidency is Good as long as POTUS does things you like.

    • Gustave Lytton

      “tariff negotiations” “free trade”

      Yeah…

      • Fourscore

        Why would we need government in between a willing buyer and a willing seller? As in some sort of covenant that restricts ‘those people’ from moving into our neighborhood.

      • R.J.

        That may mean deals for us.

    • Ownbestenemy

      CIA should be deemed a worldwide terror organization

      • dbleagle

        Color me skeptical. After almost 3/4 of a century of Soviet intel agencies, plus a few years with National Socialist agencies, and plenty of talent from those times I think the Ukes can pull off targeted murders w/o the CIA.

      • Fourscore

        I just finished a book about the CIA’s meddling in SouthEast Asia in the ’50s-’60s-early 70s. Downright frightening and it certainly has to be a South American -Central American thing now, remaking the world in our own minds.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.
  16. KK, Non-Man

    I’m re-watching episodes of the original Japanese Iron Chef.

    If I hear “Fukui-san?” one. more. fucking. time. 😡

    • Sensei

      I had no idea the chairman was saying, “allez cuisine”.

      At the time I watched it years ago I thought it was Japanese.

      Sadly I’ve never heard the show in the original Japanese. But food commentary on Japanese shows is hysterically over the top. The English dub probably under sells it.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Needs reaction bubble/picture in picture of the hosts.

  17. rhywun

    The new image reveals that the dwarves in Snow White are now CGI characters, which further diminishes the opportunity for casting actors with dwarfism.

    OMFG won’t somebody please think about the actors with dwarfism already.

    • kinnath

      I wonder how much shooting is required to replace the seven magically creatures of diversity. Or maybe they just wiped them out in the editing room.

      • R.J.

        Speaking of shitshows, at this party are dogs with some stomach bug. A dog just shit on a kid’s shoe, then my daughter threw up in the kitchen. Whole place smells like a giant turd. Help.

      • rhywun

        LOL sorry.

        LOL

      • R.J.

        I just got home. So loud. I have Svengoolie on mute, nice calm cats on the bed. No shit hounds. I may be done with Halloween altogether.

      • Fourscore

        It’s what they do.

      • R.J.

        I got home and hugged my cats. They are so trouble free and quiet.

      • rhywun

        Hmph cats shit all over too, at least as a means of telling you where they want the litter box this week.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        +1 Fat Freddies Cat.

  18. rhywun

    Here’s some propaganda.

    From The Guardian?! Well, heavens to Betsy.

    • milo

      *snort*

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Ohhhhh, Chanandler Bong, my favorite Friend.

    • Sensei

      Damn. They ever reliable TMZ says no drugs. But I know he struggled with addiction.

      • Tres Cool

        Yeah, passed out in a jacuzzi ?
        Who hasn’t been there, amirite ?

      • rhywun

        Could that BE any less believable?

        Yeah, he had struggles all right.

        You can see them on the show.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “Thin Chandler, I was on Vicodin. Fat Chandler, I was drinking.” (or something to that effect)

      • Don escaped Texas

        college Perry: Justin got all the hot girls

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        But didn’t MP beat him up or some such?

      • rhywun

        *looks down, notes how very much more accessible booze is*

    • milo

      Seemed like a nice enough fella.
      Good journey.

    • Don escaped Texas
      • Ted S.

        That’s Hedley!

  19. Tres Cool

    I’m watching the tOSU v. Rutgers game.
    Commercials- NCAA is all in on repairing Bud Light’s image.

    • Sensei

      As long as the checks clear…

      • Tres Cool

        We’ve already established what you are, now we’re talking about the price….

    • Annoyed Nomad

      Tres, are you posting from the future? OSU is playing Wisconsin today and Rutgers next weekend.

      • Tres Cool

        w/e…red helmets
        Im kinda drunk, too

      • Tres Cool

        And whaddup in the 513?
        yo its been a hot minute yo

      • rhywun

        Tall tumblers for the *checks notes* 607!

      • Annoyed Nomad

        Life’s been good to me. The Mrs and I recently returned from a trip to Utah to hike the national parks.

        How about you? I keep seeing you posting from various work trips.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        Lol, understandable. But I’m kinda disappointed – hold you could enlighten us on what happens over the next week.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        *hoped* you could

      • Tres Cool

        I hate to say it, but I really hope that when the (you know who) game up north rolls around, Harbaugh has a lot of injured players.
        I think we’re gonna get killed.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        I’m not sure OSU will get killed, but yes, I see weaknesses that a good team can exploit.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        OSU is playing the Wildcats. I don’t know what you easterners are talking about.

      • Tres Cool

        My internet is out- do you have the Cal score?

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        Cal hates its football, so, no.

    • dbleagle

      At first, I read that as NFL.

  20. Tres Cool

    So I’m taking Tres V 2.0 to the range tomorrow. Earlier this year I got him a tiny Ruger LCP, but Im looking to subject him to something with a bit more punch, something he has to think about controlling to put a round where it should be. Any recommendations? I’m thinking something in a .40SW. Also, we’re gonna double up with a rifle. I’m leaning to a .22 just to teach breathing and trigger squeeze. And its cheap.

    Thoughts and or recommendations appreciated.

    • Don escaped Texas

      I’ve had great success teaching with the 1911: it’s simple and fits a lot of hands and sight lines and is a gentle round/action combo….which I don’t think .40 is

      consider whether you want a sort of early and easy success (1911) versus randomness and spray (Luger or any of the new little strike-fire jobs) which, while frustrating if you start at too much range, exaggerate (highlight?) poor trigger work…which is a good thing if the student is calm and patient and coachable: you really see the problems and can focus on improving form

      • Tres Cool

        I like Sig. Glock is Tupperware.
        But thanks for your comment. Noted.

      • dbleagle

        .22 is a great caliber to learn the discipline of shooting. Plus you can hunt and plink with it for cheap. It is a lifetime plus gift. I still shoot my great grandfather’s .22 and a British Lee-Enfield training rifle in .22.

      • Zwak says the real is not governable, but self-governing.

        9mm is your best choice. Big enough to think about, not so big as to make you stupid. Common enought to get at the corner store.

        I mostly shoot .22lr now, great for learning trigger control and repeatable body position, but I did just pick up an old .22 Hornet, Ugly Gun.

      • Sean

        I like .40, but Zwak is correct in advocating for 9mm.

        Either way, a Sig P229 is an superb choice. Keep an eye out for LEO trade ins, although I think most of those are in .40.

        If you’re insisting on a .40 in plastic, https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-smith-wesson-m-p40c-40s-w-handgun

        They’re great shooters, decent ccw sized and you will want to do an Apex trigger upgrade at some point. It goes from ok to magical. FR.

    • Don escaped Texas

      Spring Hill was built for the Saturn (motto: our first dealership was in Memphis). The labor contract was novel in many ways regarding union roles in management, no punch clocks, I’m sure I’m missing other important details.

      • Sensei

        The whole Saturn concept to take on Japan was really interesting.

        Shame the original 4 banger was a vibration machine first. Typical GM bean counting.

        But there was no comparison between a comparable Honda and Saturn at the same price.

      • Don escaped Texas

        no comparison

        great Scott! I wasn’t saying I’d own one of those turds!

      • Sensei

        Well everything cheap in that era still had those fucking mouse seatbelts including from Japan.

        Loved GM putting them on the door too.

      • Tres Cool

        I’ll argue that one of the good things Japanese automakers did in the 80s was forcing the Big 3 to up their reliability game. Detroit couldn’t compete with Honda/Toyota et al with a reliable car that could get you to work and back every day.
        The guys on NPR “Car Talk” made the same argument about “suburban sprawl”. Until the Japanese, you couldn’t buy an American car reliable enough to let you live 30 or so miles from where you worked.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hah! A little overstated.

        I wonder how much the dip in quality was due to cost cutting in the 70’s and government mandates, particularly fuel and emissions.

    • rhywun

      It’s wants a login 🙁

      • R.J.

        Yeah. And even then it failed.

      • rhywun

        My grammar failed.

    • rhywun

      Nice. Is that neon lights? I love neon lights.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        no, it’s LED in a shadow box to mellow out the birightness

      • R.J.

        Looks good!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Thanks! the tower is cut out but waiting for the actual display, this year is purple and spiders, it’s looking good already,
        I love property,

      • hayeksplosives

        Creating stuff is good for the soul.

  21. Brochettaward

    Baby don’t First me…don’t First me…no more.

  22. Beau Knott

    Mornin’ all!
    Couple more blasts from the past. I like the animation tha leads the first. The second is considerably darker.

    From Sniffing The Tears, Driver’s Seat (long version).

    From The Normal, Warm Leatherette.

    Share and enjoy!

  23. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    yo whats goody yo

    TALL SABBATH CANS!

  24. Fourscore

    Mornin’ Beau,Sean and TC

    All is well, cool, 19 F

    • Sean

      🌄😃