ZWAK Music; Is This Desire, Enough

by | Jan 2, 2024 | Music | 114 comments

Sneaking into the early nineties college rock scene, PJHarvey put out what seemed an album of Angry Feminist songs, nice, but sticking to your basic power pop formula. And then the second album, Rid of Me, came out and cut like a knife into any staid image of simple music, and the songs of which helped earn her the sobriquet that is the subheading of this piece:

While performances such as this are a huge part of why that title was bestowed upon her, a closer listen to the interview at the end of that last clip gives a fuller, although not complete picture. She was a young farm girl, thrust into big city life, who had never even had a boyfriend when she wrote those supposed spurned women screeds. She had simply taken the stories from her parent’s old blues records and rewrote them with herself as the star.

Changing up the presentation and musical style, drifting away from the pop background and finding footing in a style of her own making for her third album, she fully embraced the violence of her desire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBk3MdU9Y2A 

What has become clear in this stage of her career is that she had been creating characters to base the lyrics of each album around, lyrics of blood, desire, shame, alternating between harrowing and beautiful. Whether they were aspects of her own changing life or not is up to the listener to determine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PXOkcVGnOU   

And, thus, Polly Jean Harvey passed through the nineties and into a new millennium. With an artist who has had such a long and storied career as her, it is impossible to present it all at once. And in the time since her breakout, she has moved on to making anti WWI albums(!) and what seem to be simple folk songs about the area she grew up in. But, as the only two-time winner of the British Mercury prize, listening to her is never easy, and always rewarding.

 

Tune in next time, same ZWAK time, same ZWAK channel.

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ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

114 Comments

  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    The blues is the blues, you don’t rewrite it you retell the same thing,
    YOU GOT THE BLUES

  2. kinnath

    Not doing it for me. Nice voice, but the songs don’t carry any weight for me.

    • kinnath

      At any rate. Thanks for the article. I listened to all the songs, and I enjoyed the write up.

  3. kinnath

    No evidence of terrorism in Rochester, N.Y., crash that left 2 dead and multiple injured, police say

    There’s no evidence of terrorism in the fiery New Year’s Day crash that saw the driver of an SUV stashed with gas canisters speed toward pedestrians and collide with a car, killing two people and injuring several more after a concert in Rochester, New York, police said.

    Once the flames were doused, firefighters “located at least a dozen gasoline canisters in and around” the Expedition, the police statement said. That prompted police to bring in an arson team and alert the FBI, police said.

    I always drive around with a dozen gas cans in my SUV. Doesn’t everybody?

    • Sensei

      Depends, is Biden filling or releasing oil from the SPR?

    • Sean

      The injured victims get to sue Ford now, right?

    • Not Adahn

      It wasn’t his SUV. He rented it especially for the non-terrorist attack.

      I wonder if he purchased extra insurance on it?

      • kinnath

        He rented it especially for the non-terrorist attack.

        Hadn’t read that yet.

      • Not Adahn

        News reports are conflicting. The one linked here says they did not find a suicide note. Previous ones I’ve read said they found one.

      • kinnath

        Dude from Syracuse rents a full-size SUV, fill the cabin gas cans, and drives at high speed into a crowded pedestrian zone in Rochester (90ish miles from home) at 1 am or so.

        Clearly he had no ill intentions.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Sometimes, people just explode.

        Natural causes.

      • Chafed

        Spinal Tap nods in agreement.

    • creech

      We can’t make a judgement on this incident until we know where the driver was on Jan. 6, 2021.

      • kinnath

        Check his voter registration.

    • CPRM

      Bonus points if it was an EV filled with gas cans.

      • Tres Cool

        I like the way you think.

    • R C Dean

      48 hour rule.

      Sounds like he may have just been a crazy person.

      • kinnath

        A conspiracy of one?

      • R C Dean

        If he had multiple personalities, sure, why not?

  4. The Late P Brooks

    I always drive around with a dozen gas cans in my SUV. Doesn’t everybody?

    How many snowmobiles do you have?

    • kinnath

      How many did Michael Avery have?

  5. Not Adahn

    Apparently Al Qaeda’s Hamas’ #2 was droned in Beirut. These sorts of things happen there I’m told.

    • UnCivilServant

      It’s always the second in command. They’re like RedShirts.

      Call me back when they get the leader and the Ayatollah.

    • Grummun

      What is Hamas’ #2 (ha ha he said “number two”) doing in Lebanon? Taking a little vacay from Gaza? Waiting for the contractors to finish the reno on his kitchen?

      • rhywun

        I read that multiple leaders are in Qatar, and they are “worth” billions.

      • R C Dean

        I also read that several of them had left Qatar, although the story didn’t say where to. If I had Mosssad killers after me, I’d probably try to disappear, too.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    With an artist who has had such a long and storied career as her, it is impossible to present it all at once.

    Sorry, Zwak- never heard of her.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Never heard of Michael Avery, either.

    • kinnath

      The dude in the SUV in Rochester NY

      • Not Adahn

        Didn’t he invent Riverdance, too?

  8. kinnath

    Harvard University President Claudine Gay resigning her post, reports say

    Harvard University President Claudine Gay will resign amid allegations of plagiarism, according to news reports Tuesday.

    The Harvard Crimson student newspaper and the Boston Globe cited sources in articles that said Gay will step down.

    Another ray of sunshine.

    • Sean

      *points and laughs*

      • kinnath

        https://freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-president-claudine-gay-hit-with-six-new-charges-of-plagiarism/

        Harvard University president Claudine Gay was hit with six additional allegations of plagiarism on Monday in a complaint filed with the university, breathing fresh life into a scandal that has embroiled her nascent presidency and pushing the total number of allegations near 50.

        Seven of Gay’s 17 published works have already been impacted by the scandal, but the new charges, which have not been previously reported, extend into an eighth: In a 2001 article, Gay lifts nearly half a page of material verbatim from another scholar, David Canon, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin.

        Nearly 50% and climbing.

      • UnCivilServant

        I expect the rate is closer to 100%. I wager she picked up the habit early on and has not done original work since.

      • WTF

        Since she kept advancing based on her DEI check boxes, why would she bother with original work?

    • WTF

      Count on Harvard to replace her with another incompetent DEI hire.

      • grrizzly

        Harvard picked Alan Garber as interim president. Seems like an accomplished guy and a Jew.

      • WTF

        I look forward to the REEEEing if the “interim” moves to permanent.

      • Lackadaisical

        It won’t.

    • Raven Nation

      Be interesting to see if she leaves Harvard altogether. She probably has tenure in one of the departments and could take on a role as ordinary faculty.

      • WTF

        I’m sure they have a cushy landing spot for her in exchange for her agreeing to resign.

      • UnCivilServant

        “Why did you bring me to this ditch full of dead bodies?”

      • Grummun

        The pervy-movie guy that was “sacked” at Wisconsin is still on faculty, I believe.

      • Raven Nation

        Yeah, tenure is pretty hard to break. Gay may be in trouble if they could prove academic malfeasance (although the reviews of her work would suggest they’re not interested in doing so). Academia doesn’t really have a rule on “bringing the institution into disrepute” like, say, the NFL does). The old saying used to be that only three things would cost you tenure: plagiarism (or similar); misuse of funds; fooling around with students. The last one has been pretty much disregarded in recent years.

      • whiz

        The “perv” was at Wisconsin-LaCrosse, while David Canon (the one plagiarized by Gay) is at Wisconsin-Madison.*

        * Full disclosure- I am a grad of UW-Madison.

    • Raven Nation

      She was an undergrad in the 1980s and 1990s, so she SHOULD have a better understanding of plagiarism. I could understand a few cases here and there (won’t go into detail here, but it can happen with research notes).

      More recently, I’m not convinced high school students are getting a good explanation of plagiarism. I’ve had to patiently explain to college students why changing a couple of conjunctions (or similar) does not absolve them of citing a work.

      • Pine_Tree

        She seems to have a fantastic understanding of plagiarism.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Down to a science.

    • R C Dean

      Sounds like Harvard finally put enough zeroes on her severance check.

      • UnCivilServant

        “What does ‘after the decimal point’ mean?”

    • R C Dean

      That’s two down. I wonder if the bint from MIT survives.

      • Chafed

        Their board backed her and I haven’t heard any charges of malfeasance. Barring a complete embargo of alumni donations, I think she will.

    • Not Adahn

      Who did the leaking I wonder?

    • kinnath

      You’re late.

      • Beau Knott

        So’s she

    • Don escaped Texas

      30 Scaramucci +/- ?

    • rhywun

      CRIMSON-FACED

      /NY Post

      • Sensei

        Perfect.

    • Sean

      That’s a sad amount of actual “gear”. Take out the case and the nylon goods and it’s almost nothing. That ammo is already fired too.

      • Sean

        And something about that Glock looks off, too.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Has the Shabbat mode option installed?

    • R C Dean

      Wandering around in Gaza stealing weapons takes some serious stones, tho.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    She was an undergrad in the 1980s and 1990s, so she SHOULD have a better understanding of plagiarism. I could understand a few cases here and there (won’t go into detail here, but it can happen with research notes).

    How can hive mind academic-speak NOT present as copycat-ism? They think as one, they speak as one. The truth is the truth.

    • Lackadaisical

      My thesis identifies as original work.

  10. Timeloose

    Zwak,

    That was a fine summary of PJ Harvey’s early music. Dry could be considered “feminist” when it came out, but I just took it as a badass who wrote honestly about her feelings on sexuality as young woman. I liken it to the young man rock built on sexual frustration, Satisfaction for example.

    Her later records were much more complex and interesting, but Dry is by it’s name harsh and raw.

    My person favorite album is not the most complex, but it’s one I was listening to with my wife when we were dating, Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea

    You Said Something
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zB0UzHGo4s

    • The Hyperbole

      Huh, I was watching ZWAK’s third link and said to myself ‘she’s channeling Nick Cave in both vocal and dance style’. If I cared enough I’d look to see if they were from roughly the same time.

  11. Lackadaisical

    We used to have glib fin articles. Anyone doing that stuff again?

    • R C Dean

      Thanks for volunteering, Lack. Thursday afternoon slot, maybe?

      • Swiss Servator

        Thursday PM is for GlibFlick…

      • Lackadaisical

        One of the*ahem* more experienced glibs could do it. Maybe someone with a top hat and monocle, not a plebe…

    • rhywun

      I’m sure SEA SMTIH will have more to say in 2024.

    • Lackadaisical

      I believe I’m saving adequately, but want someone to tell me I’m doing everything right. Probably a silly request based more on nervousness than an actual need for guidance. Even if I don’t add additional contributions, but get good returns (historical returns) I should end up with more money than I’ve ever spent.

      I think I’ve answered my question.

      • kinnath

        I believe I’m saving adequately, . . . . .

        From the totally black-pilled older guy, there is no such thing as adequate saving when inflation is running amok.

        And, I don’t know what the correct answer is beyond collecting real things that hold value over the long run.

      • Lackadaisical

        The past year has been unexpectedly (to me) good for stocks.

        As long as you didn’t lock in losses you should actually be up, even above real inflation.

        That said, I don’t plan to let off the gas anytime soon, in terms of my savings. I recently did an accounting (because I have savings spread out over multiple employer plans and people) and found more money than I expected, which prompted my comment.

      • Chafed

        You may want to roll all those former employer plans into an IRA.

      • Lackadaisical

        I’ve thought about it, but besides visibility for me, there’s not a lot of advantage… Both have some of the lowest fees possible for what I want then to do, better than I’m getting in my IRA.

        Unless I’m missing something.

      • creech

        That helps immensely when it is time to start taking RMDs.

      • kinnath

        Now starting at age 75 thanks to the Dems passing the IRA.

      • Lackadaisical

        Just due to logistics or some other reason?

      • Don escaped Texas

        damn your nimble fingers

      • prolefeed

        “I don’t know what the correct answer is beyond collecting real things that hold value over the long run.”

        You got it in one. If they’re debasing the currency, don’t hold any more money than needed to take care of immediate needs.

        It seems like the price of everything has doubled since 2020, so real inflation was running about 30% per year. Note he vast discrepancy between that and the gov’t figures.

      • Don escaped Texas

        The question for me is where to find real gains and maintain some liquidity.

        You can download endless pages of claims about returns on equities, but, after you scrub out inflation, what was truly a gain? On the other hand, if you held real estate and it went up 30% in the past five years, good for you…..but how can you realize that profit if no one is buying…specifically, buying your asset?

      • Lackadaisical

        Presumably rental, and all the fun that entails.

        If you’re counting on your primary residence as retirement savings you might be doing it wrong.

      • Lackadaisical

        For stocks the long term tend is really good, even accounting for inflation. Around 7% real gains for the last 30 years, 5% for the last 50. The last 15 years is even better… Who knows what the future holds though. Could be a total cluster.

      • kinnath

        Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    • Drake

      Wasn’t there supposed to be a series on small farming?

      Looking around the field behind the house over the weekend. Trying to decide where to plant vegetables versus an orchard.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That would be nice. I don’t have a ton of land but about 4x as much as I did in Vegas. I want a couple fruit trees and a nice garden. Problem I think I have is we are an East/West facing house so besides the side yard, nothing is full sun.

      • Drake

        For some reason I’ve always had better luck with tomatoes in partial sun. I’m looking at planting some Paw Paw trees along the tree line since they supposedly do well with some shade.

      • Timeloose

        You are the third person in the last few weeks whom I have heard say that. What kind of Matrix like existence do we live in?

        I don’t think I knew or cared what a Paw Paw was until 1-2 years ago. I just knew we had some weird looking native fruit trees in PA that were not profitable to to cultivate.

        My BIL, and a friend of a friend both decided on the same week to plan them on their “farms”. My BIL has already planted his custardy hillbilly bananas.

      • Nephilium

        It was probably 10-15 years back that I learned of the PawPaw, and that was just because a local brewery (which has since gone under) made a really good beer with them, and did a mini-fest for the fruit.

      • Timeloose

        They look like Durian fruit flesh, but taste ok. I think you have a week to find, pick and eat them.

  12. kinnath

    Early Mickey Mouse is now in the public domain—and AI is already on the case

    The new model can create images of Mickey Mouse, Minnie Mouse, and Peg Leg Pete. “The generated images aims adhere [sic] to the 1928 design in order to have Mickey, Minnie and Pete and in the public domain,” writes Langlais on the model card. “This is still a work in progress: while the model is in development, generated images should be checked to ensure they really are in the public domain design.”

    Evil versus evil. Who will win?

    • Ownbestenemy

      My worst fear

      My brother lied when we were kids and said he was taking me to Crocodile Dundee or something like that when instead we went and snuck into the theater that my sister worked at and saw Nightmare on Elm Street III. After I had terrible nightmares and he used to say “just think of Mickey Mouse”….its come full circle!

    • Lackadaisical

      Thanks for the (relative) ray of sunshine.

  13. Sensei

    Paywalled NYT. We finally get the interesting details in the last paragraphs. It makes the injured party much less sympathetic. So they naturally put it last.

    “As for Bokksu, its insurance claim has been denied. So the blame is now flowing backward along that supply chain…

    In possibly the strangest twist on the Kit Kat trail, Bokksu announced in September that it had acquired Japan Crate. But The Times discovered that the acquisition had actually been completed back in June. So Bokksu, through a wholly owned subsidiary, had in effect overseen the loading of its own Kit Kats onto the original two fraudulent trucks.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/dining/kit-kats.html

    • Gustave Lytton

      If this doesn’t have Hershey behind it protecting their craptacular licensed brand, i will be disappoint.

      • Sensei

        Please. It was Arthur Slugworth.

    • The Other Kevin

      One of the guys made a remark about anything being better than sitting through yet another budget meeting.

      • Tres Cool

        Worse yet, a meeting about health insurance.

        Would be funny if they had mandatory annual DEI training tho.

      • Lackadaisical

        No, but making them sit through one would be against the Geneva convention.