Thursday Morning Links

by | May 9, 2024 | Daily Links | 225 comments

Florida demolished Boston last night. And like an dumbass, I turned off the late game with about 12 minutes left because I couldn’t see a way for Vancouver to get back into it. Then they score three goals in ten minutes and win. And across the pond, Real Madrid did what Real Madrid does…make it to Champions League finals even when they shouldn’t have. What a flurry of action in the last 15 minutes, including a VERY controversial (read: terrible) decision by the referee to blow the whistle early.  And that’s it for sports.

I remember when this was impeachment-worthy. But this is (D)ifferent somehow.

It’s called supply and demand. But I bet they blame “greedy landlords” instead of the idiots running those cities and imposing strict zoning schemed.

This is a curious case. In a just world the kid would win. But we don’t live in a just world, so that’s why I say it will be interesting.

Better listen to this guy while you can. He’ll probably “kill himself” by the end of the weekend.

So he’s still a radical leftist? He just changed his costume.

What a bunch of fucktards. I hope none of them are employable after all this shit. (And yes, I know that’s two NY Post articles. I couldn’t resist either of them.)

In California, they’d have given him a medal. OK, maybe only Scott Weiner would have proposed that, but it wouldn’t have been illegal anyway.

This is a wild one. I have no pithy comment. You’ll have to come up with one for me in the comments.

Let’s get those toes tapping. It’s easy to with these guys. Especially with this song. Enjoy them both.

And enjoy this lovely Thursday, dear friends.

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225 Comments

  1. SDF-7

    This is a wild one. I have no pithy comment.

    She was a movin’ on up?

    Morning, Sloopy — morning, all.

    • sloopyinca

      This works. Thank you.

    • Trigger Hippie

      When a bat has no belfry…

    • Ted S.

      Better she was found living than found dead.

  2. UnCivilServant

    This is a wild one.

    It is a sign of the times.

    • SDF-7

      Nice.

    • Sean

      *golf clap*

    • sloopyinca

      This works as well. I guess I need some caffeine this morning.

    • Bobarian LMD

      It was bound to happen, the signs were all there.

  3. Evan from Evansville

    That Florida/Boston game got dirty! Well, the first fight was when FL was up 4-1. At that point, bad blood (cue Anthony Rizzo’s old ‘walk-up music’ w Taylor Swift) had to be addressed. The refs openly let it happen, far more than I’d expect in a playoff game. It was not a great game after the first, but it was fucking entertaining as fuck.

    • Grummun

      Twelve 10 Minute Misconducts handed out in the space of 2:30, and Panarin will be lucky to not get a suspension. Quite a fracas.

      • Grummun

        Pasternak, not Panarin.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, that was confusing me.

        Rangers are on fire!

  4. SDF-7

    Re: music links — pure madness, that. 😉

    And my ring tone for my wife (back when Apple made it easy to copy a song in your library, set an arbitrary start/stop and copy it to a phone so you could easily do custom ringtones.

    • Nephilium

      I’m very much looking forward to seeing Madness (as well as Devo, the English Beat, the Descendents, the Skatalites, and more) in a couple of weeks. The girlfriend only wants to hear Our House by Madness, Whip It by Devo, and Mirror in the Bathroom by the English Beat. She doesn’t believe me that those are not that likely to be played at a punk festival.

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend has been getting nervous, because it’s a new fest for us to go to. She’s worried that she’s not going to fit in, and that people will be looking at her. I’ve tried to explain that the first rule of being a punk is being comfortable in what you like, and not giving a damn if someone’s staring at you. She’s having problems reconciling this.

        On the other hand, when I point out that she’s gone to other fests and was comfortable and kept remarking how friendly everyone is, she’s worried that’s just the Midwest punks. I’m going to laugh if we run into some of the regulars from Viva at PRB (since the punk/rockabilly scene is nearly a circle in a Venn diagram). I have two tasks to complete before we leave:

        1) Book a table at the Laundry Room for one night

        2) Reach out to Vic Ruggerio (who’s going, but not scheduled to play) to meet up for a bite/drinks

      • Ownbestenemy

        Have her watch SLC Punk to understand that no one gives a flying f*

      • Nephilium

        I had her watch it once, she didn’t really care for it. I have pointed out that she felt safe napping in the field during Camp Anarchy, in the middle of the day, surrounded by strangers.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Mrs OBE “Herion Bob is so cool”
        Me: Just wait…

      • CPRM

        It may look like a golden record, but dare is a moofie on dare!

      • ZWAK will kindle all of the dreams it took a lifetime to destroy

        I love that movie.

        “I’m going to get a 4.0 in damage!”

      • SDF-7

        Wait… disco isn’t cool?!?

  5. Rat on a train

    You know what else can be distressing, disturbing and emotionally confronting? Courtroom proceedings. These kids might end up working as legal counsel in a murder trial.

    Your honor, I just can’t. I demand you rule in my favor.

    • SDF-7

      I think some actual attorneys on X-Twitter were heckling them regarding the “too stressed out for exams” — “I’m sorry your honor… I can’t make closing arguments because the opposing counsel’s statements were just too stressful!”

      So yeah — I think there’s two factors here: 1) Like Hollywood, I think there’s an over-the-population of Jewish people who are lawyers (and hence senior partners) that don’t take too kindly to blatant antisemitism. Shock. Gasp. 2) Even for those who aren’t put off by the first point — revealing you have the mental stamina of a Portugese Man of War after being on the beach a week isn’t going to make people think you’ll put in the hours or hold up in court.

      I’m sure the actual lawyers we have here can fill in on this — but from the outside, memorization skills, ability to craft an argument well / on-the-fly and hold up under stress seem to be the key skills for that career path.

      Unless you’re going the Pure Nepotism route, of course. Then you can visit with Cracky and be just fine.

      • Nephilium

        I think some of those skills are only useful for trial lawyers. My understanding is the vast majority of lawyers don’t spend too much time in the actual courtroom (IANAL).

      • R C Dean

        Even trial lawyers spend very little time in the courtroom, and even less in trials.

        But mental fragility of any kind is a recipe for failure regardless of specialization. If had an offer out to anyone at Columbia I’d be looking hard at withdrawing it right now.

      • RBS

        I imagine that most students from Columbia go the Big Law/Corporate route, which is a meatgrinder anyway.

      • RBS

        Even outside of the courtroom you need those skills. For me the work outside of the courtroom was way more stressful. Clients, senior attorneys, opposing counsel, various third parties, all sorts of things. There are always deadlines and expectations. Nobody cares that you’re “emotionally distressed” or whatever these kids a feeling.

      • trshmnstr

        This is true, but the ability to craft an argument under time constraints and stress is useful in most legal roles.

        When we hire lawyers, we’re looking for academic excellence, a decent personality, and work ethic.

        By the way, we’re not hiring out of the Ivies. Partially because it’s hard to find people in those schools who pass the “decent personality” test. That’s related to the second reason we don’t hire out of the ivies… we’re not a good fit for most of them. Most of the top half of the ivies are “strivers”. Kids who are going to do anything, and I mean anything, to climb that career ladder as fast and as high as possible. We don’t have what they want, and we don’t want to become what they want.

        If we got even a whiff of somebody being involved in trying to get out of exams this way, we’d avoid them like the plague. We need drama like we need a hole in the head.

      • ZWAK will kindle all of the dreams it took a lifetime to destroy

        Not just legal work, either. If you have any sort of client facing job, do any logistics work, and, really, anything that has any sort of pressure on it. the ability to think quickly under fire, so to speak*, is of the utmost importance. If you need a “safe space”, have to put on a mask to hide behind, constantly ask for more time, all are signs of failure and inability to move forward in both a specific task and a career in general.

        *pretty sure this is also important in combat too.

      • Nephilium

        /remembers several calls where Tier 3 support was on with end users from the customer side.

        *shudder*

    • Grumbletarian

      This is of course after they demand that they be considered to have passed any bar exams so they can practice law to begin with.

      • Nephilium

        Just wait until the demand to be appointed judges.

      • SDF-7

        And the rage of being questioned through the appeals process.

      • trshmnstr

        I’m all for changing up the way lawyers are licensed, but killing the bar exam is a particularly stupid way to approach that. If you cannot pass the bar after repeated attempts, you probably shouldn’t practice law. It’s not about the content so much as the demonstrated inability to take in new information and draw reasoned inferences from it. Its one thing if it takes you two tries. It’s a whole other thing when you’re biting your nails about try number 6. (I encountered a few folks like that when I took the bar… it was very sad).

      • Gustave Lytton

        Yep, that’s pretty much my thoughts as a non-lawyer. I’ve thought reading the law (basically apprenticeship/clerking) should make a return. Maybe coupled with legal studies initial degree/super paralegal program to get a solid foundation underneath.

  6. rhywun

    Yup, Bayern was robbed. Now I have to root for fucking Dortmund.

    • sloopyinca

      It was shocking. That’s all I can say. Not as shocking as Bayern’s defense in the last moments of the game, but shocking nonetheless.

      Although had Neuer not fumbled away a soft shot, it would have never gotten to that point to begin with. Which is a shame because he’d had a great game before that.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        It gets even more shocking:

        🚨⚪️ Ancelotti: “Bayern complained about the offside? Ok, so we complain about the cancelled goal of Nacho… because Kimmich dived”. pic.twitter.com/cP1yWUP800— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) May 8, 2024

        That’s your rebuttal, we also choked a guy and didn’t get a goal because of it?

      • sloopyinca

        I don’t understand why guys in his position even respond to questions like that with anything but “we have a final to prepare for and I’m looking forward not backward.”

      • juris imprudent

        It’s the same with Vinicius – bitch trashtalks all the time, and when he gets it back RACISM!!!! He’s got all the talent in the world, and not a trace of class.

  7. Ownbestenemy

    One of Mrs OBE’s former clients from her dog grooming business offloaded her whole kitchen small appliances and doodads to us after her husband passed away. One of those was a pro series stand mixer. So I felt obligated to make my journey into baking. I am not a baker and while I have made bread in the past, just never put time into it.

    Made a couple loafs of basic bread yesterday. I think the yeast I have is old, so didn’t get a good second rise but overall, great tea-bread or very small sandwich bread. Not dense, good number of holes and a crunchy crust.

    She also gave us the pasta attachments and I will be ordering the meat grinder/sausage stuffer attachments soon.

    • juris imprudent

      meat grinder/sausage stuffer

      So you and the wife have some fun evenings planned.

    • Gustave Lytton

      SAF kept in freezer keeps for a long time.

  8. Ownbestenemy

    Christian McGhee asked his English teacher at Central Davidson High School whether her reference to the word aliens referred to “space aliens, or illegal aliens who need green cards.”

    Ya…that…guess we will see what type of judge gets this case because that is benign as all fuck.

    • Rat on a train

      I don’t believe the law makes a distinction between terrestrial and extraterrestrial aliens.

      • R.J.

        Sadly no.

  9. SDF-7

    Just want to say — there’s much I probably could say on the most of the links ((D)ifferent when they do it, blatant 1st Amendment issues, etc.)… but honestly, I don’t feel like I’d be adding anything to the conversation. Y’all could certainly predict what I’d be saying — and I’m just so fucking tired of it all. The more time goes on, the more we see them pull — and the more Nothing Else Happens… well, you can understand why the Russkies love vodka, I suppose (but I don’t drink, so that’s out).

    I feel the ole Catholic Guilt because you did go out of your way to get us links to talk about… but I’m just not up for it this morning. Sorry.

    • Nephilium

      /hands SDF-7 a mocktail in a fancy glass

      There’s always pointing, laughing, and trying to enjoy life while we can.

  10. Drake

    There are two sides to supply and demand. The millions of people flooding into this country all need a place to live – so demand is surging beyond supply.

    Maybe different zoning would help although some places do not want to build third world slums despite the third world coming to them.

    • Gustave Lytton

      The “zoning is the problem” is a push to remove SFHs and cram people into Stalinist apartment projects.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And remove/not provide parking so it’s more inconvenient and painful to own a vehicle.

  11. Fourscore

    “suspending student over ‘illegal alien’ term”

    My kids went to a small rural school. They and their classmates, including the minority kids, would all have been using “illegal alien” if it meant getting a vacation from time to time. My kids got suspended without having to resort to racially oriented terms. My daughter got suspended for skipping school. How the hell does that work?

    “We have to do something”

    • Rat on a train

      My school had in-school detention for things like being late too many times. By in-school, I mean during the instruction period. I assume staff didn’t want to stay late or come in on Saturday.

    • Nephilium

      When I was a kid, being suspended from school never sounded like a punishment. I knew the real punishment would have come from my parents when they found out I was suspended.

      • ron73440

        When I was a kid, being suspended from school never sounded like a punishment. I knew the real punishment would have come from my parents when they found out I was suspended.

        It was for me, because I lived on a farm, so my mom would make me a list of (literally) shitty jobs they needed done.

        I remember getting suspended with friends for a week once because we were acting like fools in the in-school suspension and they both had a great time that week while I was working my ass off.

        Still better than school.

    • SDF-7

      Well, now that it is on the record as acne treatments — how are they ever going to become Governor of Virginia or Prime Minister of Canada? Boys aren’t thinking ahead!

      • Rat on a train

        They forgot to complete the costume.

      • Nephilium

        You’re thinking small.

        Sue the camera (probably phone) manufacturers, the acne treatment manufacturers, and the papers for publicizing it.

    • rhywun

      I have a feeling the Strippers are going to be disappointed when they find out all their “friends” are really just commies using them as a pretext for their agitprop.

  12. rhywun

    The gap between wage growth and rent increases was widest in large cities

    Rent soared during the pandemic as demand rose due to Americans fleeing major urban centers

    Americans fled large cities and the rents soared there. How does that happen? I still haven’t figured that out.

    • Drake

      Mass illegal immigration is my guess.

      • rhywun

        That kind of makes sense – and the MSM certainly won’t go there which is why they write so much gibberish about this topic.

      • SDF-7

        They’ll love the Dems… they pay their rent. (Hey, as long as I’m linking PSB all over the place…)

    • SDF-7

      Randomly speculating — all the “No evictions, don’t worry about paying your rent” bullshit artificially limited the supply (because landlords were effectively locked out of cycling their properties or getting rent from deadbeats), so the prices for new rentals went up? After that inflationary pressure?

      But yeah — that seems like a square that the reporter should bother to circle with some data (or links or something).

    • SDF-7

      Leave the kid alone until he actually decides to step into the ring (both sides). For all we know he’s got the skills of Chelsea Clinton (or Don Jr, who’s never impressed me)… or he may just decide between 18 and 20 (regardless of what he says now) that his path lies elsewhere.

      Jeez… the desire for fucking political dynasties in this country never ceases to amaze and disgust me. We did fight a war to get away from hereditary nobility and all, folks…..

      • juris imprudent

        We are as likely to achieve a class-less society as the communists were.

      • R.J.

        I don’t have any class. I am ahead of all of you!

      • Raven Nation

        “But it is not so much the absurdity as the evil of hereditary succession which concerns mankind. Did it ensure a race of good and wise men it would have the seal of divine authority, but as it opens a door to the FOOLISH, the WICKED, and the IMPROPER, it hath in it the nature of oppression. Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent. Selected from the rest of mankind, their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed in the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.”

  13. Brawndo

    “I remember when this was impeachment worthy”

    Example #(I’ve lost count) of “imagine if it was the other side!”

    We’ll see if he caves like Trump did though. The Zionist lobby has a bit more power in Congress than the Ukraine lobby, even though they’re both basically the MIC

    • Drake

      1. Why do we need to supply (I assume that phrase means “gift”) Israel with any weapons? Just because it’s cheaper to buy Congress members than the weapons themselves?

      2. How in the world can you track which artillery shells are used where? It’s a nonsense political statement to distance themselves from the slaughter without actually doing anything.

      I know I’m in the minority here, but there are no good guys in that fight.

      • rhywun

        We shouldn’t be giving weapons to anybody IMNSHO. I don’t care whose side we’re supposedly on.

      • Not Adahn

        If Biden had let Israel wipe out Hamas months ago, the protests wouldn’t exist and this wouldn’t be a live issue for him.

        Plus Foggy Bottom writing an “agreement” for Hamas to sign onto without Israel’s input was a staggering misreading of how much leverage the US has over Bibi. The part where Hamas could exchange Jew corpses for live fighters was *chef’s kiss*

      • Brawndo

        I honestly wasn’t aware that Biden/Blinken stopped Netanyahu from doing anything back in the fall. All I remember was Blinken (I think) saying, basically, wrap this up quick because this will become a PR nightmare for you.

      • Not Adahn

        You really don’t remember the whole “no action in Raffa without a credible plan to evacuate all innocents and provide for them,” plus allowing UNSC resolutions against Israel to pass?

      • Drake

        How do you “wipe out” Hamas without killing all of the Palestinians? The official number is 34,000 dead and the real number is probably higher.

      • Brawndo

        Yeah but they VOTED for Hamas (almost two decades ago. And after being supported by Israel to undermine the more reasonable Palestinian Authority so that they could tell the world they had no legitimate partner in peace). Elections have consequences.

      • trshmnstr

        I’m highly skeptical of the idea that there are a bunch of Israel tolerant Palestinians sitting there silently while a handful of Hamas acolytes cause trouble.

      • Not Adahn

        What’s the purpose of

        And after being supported by Israel

        ?

        Do you give USian voters a pass when they vote for stupid/evil people because they’ve been bamboozled by the media?

      • Brawndo

        I put more blame on the people doing the manipulation because it’s obvious that money and propaganda do in fact influence elections.

      • Not Adahn

        Palis have been killing Jews since before Bibi came to power. I will admit that there’s no reason I can identify but for whatever reason, the Achille Lauro murders have stuck with me in a way that other atrocities haven not.

      • Cunctator

        —“The official number is 34,000 dead and the real number is probably higher.”—

        Which “official” number is this. The only “official” numbers I have heard are from Hamas. The same Hamas that claimed hundreds were kill in an Israeli rocket on a hospital, only to turn out that there were few casualties and the rocket attacks were mis-fired Hamas rockets.

        Those “official” numbers?

      • juris imprudent

        Also the same organization that counts human shields as innocent casualties.

      • RBS

        “More than 34,600 Palestinians have been killed, 29 of them in the past 24 hours, and more than 77,000 have been wounded in Israel’s assault, according to Gaza’s health ministry.”

      • Not Adahn

        Reuters literally and unapologetically uses Hamas numbers. AFAIK, there are zero independent sources. You may notice I’m not making the claim that IDF is credible.

      • Not Adahn

        Drake, do you not read you links? It’s right there. Your “ABC” source is Hamas.

        Her family members are some of the more than 34,000 people killed and 77,143 injured in Gaza since Oct. 7, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health.

      • Cunctator

        Hamas numbers. No other agency is reporting numbers.

        To repeat myself—The same Hamas that claimed hundreds were kill in an Israeli rocket on a hospital, only to turn out that there were few casualties and the rocket attacks were mis-fired Hamas rockets.

      • Not Adahn

        No offense Drake, but if nobody’s pointed out that literally all of your sources and ESPECIALLY the “probably higher” nonsense comes from Hamas, you’re in kind of an echo chamber. Which would explain why you seem to be on a groyper (are they still called that?) NPC script.

      • Not Adahn

        I have no idea how you’re “probably higher” when the sole source for the stats is someone we watched in real time fabricating 500 deaths out of thin air.

        And the only way you can make this claim:

        How do you “wipe out” Hamas without killing all of the Palestinians

        Is to claim that all Palis are Hamas, which is a rather extremist viewpoint. I mean, the Nazis were wiped out while leaving at least a few Germans alive, and Iraq was de-Baathified without rendering that country citizenless.

        Seriously though, I think you need to explain what you’re talking about here. Contrary to tweets, killing a Hamas member does not actually make ten more spring up out of the ground.

      • R C Dean

        Whose official number is that? If that’s the Hamas number, it’s bullshit. Even if that number is accurate, in the context of a war against a country with 2.25 million people, well, that’s not terribly out of line historically. Realistically, it could be a lot worse.

        And if all the Palis are, in fact, Hamas, well, what choice do the Israelis have? Just resign themselves to being under constant bombardment with the occasional invasion?

        Exactly what should the Israelis be doing here?

      • trshmnstr

        Exactly what should the Israelis be doing here?

        The only coherent answer I’ve heard from pro-palestinian types is “from the river to the sea”. This conflict will not stop until Israel ceases to exist. Anything short of that will get the hegelian dialectic applied iteratively to it.

      • ZWAK will kindle all of the dreams it took a lifetime to destroy

        “How do you “wipe out” Hamas without killing all of the Palestinians?” Same way Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were “wiped out”.* It is a war, one that a group of people thought they could start and have “international” support for, while the other group finds it to be, correctly from what the first group keeps saying and doing, an existential threat. And the only way to end a war is to massively overwhelm your opponent, and do this until they unilaterally lay down arms and go belly up.

        * I don’t know if you have noticed, but those two groups haven’t wanted to do anything for two generations. I would say it worked.

      • juris imprudent

        I will say the problem with that approach is that you aren’t killing the source of transmission of the values. The mothers of Palestine will raise sons to sacrifice to the holy cause.

      • Pine_Tree

        A war ends when the WILL of one side is broken.

        The WWII analogy can’t actually be fitted to Gaza and Hamas because in WWII, the Axis leadership, decision-making, funding, and resourcing were all contained within (literally/physically) the warring nations themselves. It ain’t so here. The Hamas leadership and decision-making lives in luxury in Qatar, funded and resourced from elsewhere. They’re happily maximizing the suffering of the civilians in Gaza to maintain their own power and wealth, petted by idiotic Western elites.

        So Israel has to destroy the aggressors on the ground in Gaza. But until the will of this other group (not in Gaza) is broken, it’ll go on.

      • ZWAK will kindle all of the dreams it took a lifetime to destroy

        There was a reason why I didn’t write Gaza.

      • Ted S.

        I seem to recall the Trump administration having to go around the State Department to get the Abraham Accords done.

      • R C Dean

        It’s hard for me to look at the side that is responding to the rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping of over a thousand of its people, by trying to punish those responsible and prevent it from happening again, as doing the wrong thing. Unless they are gratuitously/intentionally committing atrocities themselves, which I honestly don’t think the Israelis are doing.

        The worst thing going on in Gaza now is a result of the siege conditions that are inevitable in that particular war. And those are made worse the longer it drags out, which puts them at the feet of the US and others trying to drag this out.

      • Nephilium

        Yeah, when the invader is the one sending out evacuation notices, I have issues calling them the bad guys.

      • rhywun

        Frankly, I think Israel is well within its rights to finish what they’ve started based solely on the hostage situation.

        The US is basically telling Israel to let them die. No other country in the world would be expected to agree to something like that.

      • Common Tater

        The U.S. is telling Israel to play nice in response to a terror attack after the U.S. went full retard after 9/11.

      • Sean

        That’s ancient history.

      • CPRM

        It was the Nazi repuplicains what did that!

      • Raven Nation

        “but there are no good guys in that fight.”

        I’m pretty close to this but I just don’t know what the right answer is. Yes, Israel has every right to go after Hamas and I also know that’s going to involve civilian casualties. But I get furious with my friends (not my friends here but others), especially Christian friends who hand-wave away the civilian casualties. Again, I think some of those casualties are unavoidable, but to read people write, in response to the death of children that “they shouldn’t have attacked Israel” boils my blood (again, I don’t see that here). I get that kids are raised from a young age to hate the Jews. But, does that justify mass killing?

        On some of the other points: yes, Hamas was elected. But so is the dictator in North Korea as was Stalin. Voting in totalitarian states comes with different consequences.

        Yes, the IDF is urging people to evacuate, but what happens if Hamas threatens to kill anyone who tries to do so?

        On casualties, etc., I think Scott Horton at least makes an effort to find independent sources. He has a series of podcasts on the war.

        And yeah, like Drake, I know this isn’t necessarily the majority opinion here, but I hope it can be considered within the realm of reasonable.

      • Nephilium

        I would say that if Hamas is threatening to kill those who evacuate, that puts the responsibility on those casualties on Hamas. The same as I would blame a person holding shut doors during an evacuation of a building.

      • Gustave Lytton

        War is awful and evil. Prolonging it is even worse. Allowing it to fester for 40-80 years is not ending the suffering, and the various puppet masters do not care about their useful idiots.

        It will not end until the Palestinians decide they want peace more than death or Israel is wiped off the map.

      • trshmnstr

        Yes, the IDF is urging people to evacuate, but what happens if Hamas threatens to kill anyone who tries to do so?

        It seems to me that the blood is on Hamas’s hands more than IDF’s in that case.

        Personally I dont know or particularly care how Israel is prosecuting this war. I know a bit of the history of the region, but not enough to confidently evaluate the credibility of the Palestinian grievances. What I do know with certainty is that Hamas has taken every opportunity to put innocents in harm’s way. It makes all of their whinging about humanitarian issues hollow. Stop intentionally putting your women and children in harm’s way and I’ll take the “genocide” more seriously.

      • Raven Nation

        Quick thanks for the responses. I probably won’t be able to respond too much as I’m part of a job interview for the next hour or so.

      • Not Adahn

        Moral or not, war is a separate state of existence. Dresden, Conventry, Hiroshima, Tokyo, Berlin, were all really shitty places living in (civilian or not) at particular times.

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        FWIW I am not all ‘rah rah’ for Israel either, and definitely don’t think we should be giving them money or weapons or whatever we’re up to over there. On a national interest level, it is none of our concern.

        “I’m pretty close to this but I just don’t know what the right answer is. Yes, Israel has every right to go after Hamas and I also know that’s going to involve civilian casualties”

        The correct ‘answer’ to the civilian deaths is that it is a tragedy, but necessary to prosecute the war.

        “Again, I think some of those casualties are unavoidable, but to read people write, in response to the death of children that “they shouldn’t have attacked Israel” boils my blood (again, I don’t see that here). I get that kids are raised from a young age to hate the Jews. But, does that justify mass killing?”

        Obviously not. I see people on ‘both’ sides going too far in their rhetorical support of ‘their’ side. I try to look at it from the Just War doctrine,..

        ‘In Summa Theologica Aquinas asserted that it is not always a sin to wage war, and he set out criteria for a just war. According to Aquinas, three requirements must be met. Firstly, the war must be waged upon the command of a rightful sovereign.’
        Maybe not so relevant to libertarians, as this sounds a lot like an appeal to authority. The whole question of the conflict is whether Israel ‘should’ exist

        ‘Secondly, the war needs to be waged for just cause, on account of some wrong the attacked have committed.’
        That condition is pretty clearly met.

        ‘Thirdly, warriors must have the right intent, namely to promote good and to avoid evil’
        I have no way of knowing what is in their hearts, but if they were really trying a genocide, they’re doing a cruddy job of it, so I lean towards the idea that the Israelis are taking reasonable steps to prevent unnecessary deaths (avoid evil) and genuinely trying to get those responsible and rescue their hostages (promote good). In that sense you can say the war is justified, so long as these factors hold.

  14. rhywun

    This is a curious case. In a just world the kid would win.

    Outrageous is what that is. Slam-dunk in the before times. Now? His life is probably ruined. Because the “no human is illegal” assholes have complete power everywhere.

    • Fourscore

      Goose steppin’

    • Drake

      Need a trail of breadcrumbs leading to the sausage factory.

      • SDF-7

        That’d be quite the social foie gras….

  15. ron73440

    Their “innocent” selfie then went viral three years later when it was found and widely shared during the height of the Black Lives Matter protests following the 2020 murder of George Floyd.

    Love the scare quotes around innocent.

    Also, who found the picture and tried to smear the kids would be useful information.

    I’m partially colorblind and I can tell it’s green tinted.

    I hate people, especially reporters and teachers.

    • ron73440

      That was meant as a reply to Sloopy’s bonus link above.

    • rhywun

      The scare quotes should be around “murder”, at least according to the guy who performed the autopsy.

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        but what does he know?

  16. rhywun

    So he’s still a radical leftist? He just changed his costume.

    OFFS with the pronoun play.

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  18. CPRM

    Fell asleep around 4am, woke up at 7am. Normally I’d complain about not enough sleep, but it’s the start of 6 days off work, so I’m actually glad to get the extra time.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Any level so long as you have done your 1-year probation.

    • Rat on a train

      Are you made yet?

    • Gustave Lytton

      “Certain employees from underrepresented groups reported on how demoralizing it was to be told by colleagues that they were ‘only hired’ because they were a member of an underrepresented group and were ‘token’ employees hired to fill a quota,”

      Paging Clarence Thomas…

    • Fourscore

      Back in the days when I was gainfully employed I worked for a small company, the two owners, 1 F, 1M, were both huggers. It was a small company, everyone got hugged, regardless of gender. As a supervisor I told my employees, particularly the women, if they didn’t want a hug from Ken to keep their distance and offer a handshake. Pat, the female half , was like everyone’s mother. We didn’t see them very often, company was geographically extended and I always enjoyed feeling like I was part of the company family. OTOH, I never offered a hug to any employee. Not my nature.

  19. Cunctator

    —“President Joe Biden said Wednesday that he would not supply offensive weapons that Israel could use to launch an all-out assault on Rafah”—

    So, the Republicans decided they were tired of giving the Democrats what they want, with the promise that the Dems would pass the Repubs bill in the future, which or course they never do. The Repubs decided to hold firm on the aid bill for Ukraine, Gaza, Taiwan and insist that Israel be included. Now that the Dems have the money, they just refuse to spend the money appropriated for something the didn’t want in the first place.

    Is that about right?

    • PieInTheSky

      I think these people are doing valuable work highlighting the silliness of the situation. where it will have any effect I don’t know.

      Again, get rid of all women division, let all athletes compete, and may the best man win.

      • The Other Kevin

        It’s insane that people watch that and still think “so stunning and brave!”

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        ‘Again, get rid of all women division, let all athletes compete, and may the best man win.’

        ^this.

        Women’s divisions are discriminatory.

    • ron73440

      “That’s a man, baby!”

      • Common Tater

        Notice there aren’t any good pictures of this person.

      • ron73440

        yea, but that is not how a chick runs.

        Not to mention he is huge compared to them.

        Even if he superficially looked like a girl, he should not be running with girls.

        If my daughter was in high school now, I would lose my shit if she had to compete against some dude playing dress up.

      • Common Tater

        I think you missed the point there.

      • ron73440

        Maybe.

        I was just saying that what he looks like doesn’t matter, but I think you were saying they didn’t show pictures because he looks like a dude?

      • Common Tater

        Yes, just like they never showed the face of that runner in Connecticut (from behind, he looked like Randy Moss in a wig).

        Although, even if someone gets great FFS, they still have an unfair advantage. Sports should be segregated by sex not gender.

    • The Last American Hero

      Smash the matriarchy!

    • Not Adahn

      TRANS SMASH!

  20. Nephilium

    In local news…

    Contractors spray-painted over pro-Palestinian protesters at Case Western Reserve University

    Ameer Alkayali, 18, is seen in the video being spray-painted on early Tuesday morning. Alkayali, a Palestinian-American, just finished his freshman year at the University of Cincinnati. He has been protesting with Case students since the first day of their encampment last week when he was also detained and released.

    As a side note, for those unaware of the geography of Ohio (looks at the recruiters who keep offering me positions outside of Cincy). Cincinnati is on the other side of the state from Case Western (which is in Cleveland), about 6 hours by car.

    • PieInTheSky

      why is the geography worth a side note though?

      • Nephilium

        A student who finished their freshman year at a school 6 hours away is protesting at a local school (where they’re not a student).

    • R C Dean

      “Students painted the Advocacy and Spirit walls on Monday night with the Palestinian flag and messages that included “I dream of breaking the siege,” “Come together in peace” and the number of Palestinian children killed in Gaza since war between Israel and Hamas broke out in October.”

      The protestors were trying to stop the school from repainting over their graffiti. Now, it would have been better to arrest them and haul them off first, but I can’t complain about the approach the contractors took, either. Besides, it’s wall paint, which is harmless and easily removed. Calling it “spray paint” is pretty misleading and mendacious.

      • Nephilium

        The entire article entertained me. Case has been threatening students, clearing encampments, and had already banned the Pro-Palestinian student group from campus for previous violations of school rules.

  21. Common Tater

    “Girl, 14, ‘gang-raped by up to ten children aged 11-16 was taken to a park by her boyfriend to be “loaned out” for sex assaults more than once, with the attacks filmed on their phones’

    Prosecutors arrested ten suspects aged between 11 and 16 – all reported by local outlets to be boys of ‘immigrant origin’ – and hauled them in for interrogation.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13399269/girl-gang-raped-children-boyfriend-loaned-sex-assaults.html

    Can feminists be more useless?

    • PieInTheSky

      Can feminists be more useless? – depends on what you think their purpose is. They seem awfully useful at destroying the west.

    • Not Adahn

      Is this “rape-rape” or a 14 year deciding to pull a train with dudes within 2 years of her age? How old is the boyfriend, and was he charging for admission?

      • Not Adahn

        If I seem callous about 14 years olds getting gangbanged by their peers, it’s only because I experienced the trailer park life and was 14.

      • trshmnstr

        The thought crossed my mind, too. I have known of more than a few girls in high school and college who entirely consensually got into what were basically orgies, only to cry rape (to varying degrees of success) when they were found out by parents or by boyfriends.

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        ‘ was taken to a park by her boyfriend to be “loaned out” for sex assaults more than once,’

        To (mis)quote Dave Chappelle: When I see someone start peeing I get out of the way.

      • Common Tater

        That was the Hofstra case — voluntary gang bang, cried rape after bf found out, then the accused were exonerated by a cell phone video.

        Although, I don’t think that is what is happened here.

      • Not Adahn

        There’s not enough information in the article to have an opinion other than my reflexive contrarian streak based on the language used and how it’s presented. Like, the boyfriend is also 14. They interview a sex traffic “expert” saying how this guy is acting like a pimp, but there’s no claim that money was exchanged, etc.

    • The Last American Hero

      My first thought was “where was Brett Kavanaugh?”

    • PieInTheSky

      Not Joe.

    • SDF-7
  22. The Other Kevin

    Confession: When I listen to Our House, and it comes to the part where they look left and right and up in the video, I still do that if nobody’s watching.

  23. Common Tater

    “A progressive non-profit that has been shelling out cash to anti-Israel protest groups is being sued by Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation for fraud and withholding more than $33 million in donations, a bombshell lawsuit claims.

    Tides Foundation, which has managed hundreds of millions in donations for progressive groups since it was founded in 1976, has “refused to honor its promises and continues to commandeer BLMGNF’s donations,” according to the 285-page lawsuit filed in California Superior Court, Los Angeles County, on Monday.

    Instead, Tides doled out an undisclosed amount of donations to a radical BLM breakaway group run by anti-police activist Melina Abdullah — who lost a “frivolous” lawsuit against BLMGNF — according to court papers and an attorney for BLMGNF.

    Tides, a Los Angeles and San Francisco-based non-profit, acts as a fiscal sponsor — essentially, a clearing house that collects donations for groups that may not have 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status.

    In addition to BLMGNF and other BLM groups, it manages donations for pro-Palestinian groups that have supported anti-Israel protests across the country.

    Billionaire George Soros and his son Alex Soros have funneled nearly $14 million from their Open Society Foundations to Tides, which sponsor activist groups including the pro-Palestinian Adalah Justice Project and others fueling campus protests….”

    https://nypost.com/2024/05/09/us-news/blm-global-network-sues-group-helping-fund-college-protests/

    I’m going to need more string.

    • SDF-7

      I’m cynical enough that as I started to read this I expected it to be “… is suing because the money is being redirected away from them to NEW THING (Summer of Intifada instead of Summer of BLM Love) and that isn’t fair.”

      • R C Dean

        I think that’s the meat of it, yes.

    • Not Adahn

      THUNDERDOME!

    • juris imprudent

      THAT OUR GRAFT – GIVE IT TO US!!!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Do you have a structured donation? Call JG Wentworth today!

  24. The Late P Brooks

    The evidence is in

    The chilling effect is palpable. Fink won’t say “ESG” anymore because, he says, it’s been “weaponized.” Asset managers are quieting down on ESG as part of a “greenhushing” trend. Some companies that made a big deal about their DEI efforts in 2020 are downsizing those, too. Data provided to me by FactSet, a financial-data company, shows that mentions of ESG and DEI in S&P 500 companies’ quarterly earnings calls with analysts have taken a nosedive over the past few years. For the fourth quarter of 2020, 131 companies mentioned ESG, and 34 mentioned DEI or diversity and inclusion. For the fourth quarter of 2023, those numbers dropped to 28 and four.

    ——-

    Underlying this all is one central question: Just how “woke” are companies anyway?

    Commitments to social responsibility are never far-reaching, said Kenneth Pucker, a former Timberland chief operating officer and current professor of practice at the Fletcher School at Tufts University. “It’s always on the margins because the main goal of executives — the real responsibility, the way the structure of the system is organized, the way incentives work, the way the rules govern — is money making.”

    Baffling loss of enthusiasm for social justice in the corporate executive suite. No one could have anticipated this renewed focus on financial performance.

    • creech

      And you “make money” by pleasing your customers. Obviously, there’s SJW out there who want their values to supersede those of customers. Time for “elitist” to make a comeback as a nasty term.

    • The Other Kevin

      The FBI admitted the boxes of documents were not preserved in the condition they were collected. As we learned from the OJ case, when your case depends on evidence that’s now questionable, the whole case blows up.

      I’m not sure it was all planted as some people are suggesting, but they’ve introduced a lot of doubt.

      • juris imprudent

        Not for Democrats – there is no doubt in their minds.

  25. The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

    ‘So he’s still a radical leftist? He just changed his costume.’

    Went from the founder of Stormfront to a tranny?

    Loving blacks turns you gay. Is that the future you want for the white nation? /whitenationalist

    • Nephilium

      I read that Preacher issue!

  26. The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

    “In California, they’d have given him a medal. OK, maybe only Scott Weiner would have proposed that, but it wouldn’t have been illegal anyway.”

    Love is love. Even when it gives you AIDS,

  27. The Late P Brooks

    State of Confusion

    Californians pay more at the pump than residents of any other state — an average of $5.34 a gallon for regular unleaded, compared to the national average of $3.64, according to AAA. And in some counties, the sticker shock is even worse — $6.80 in Alpine, $6.29 in Mono and $5.85 in Humboldt, for example.

    Statewide, gas prices have jumped 55 cents a gallon from this time a year ago.

    It’s also a little more than a year ago when Gov. Gavin Newsom’s plan to crack down on windfall oil profits became law. So what’s up?

    You’re just not hitting it hard enough.

    • Nephilium

      At least on the pumps here in Ohio, there’s a little sticker telling you how much of the price of gas is taxes (state, county, and local) and how the money is distributed. Wonder if those exist in California…

      • Ownbestenemy

        Gas prices here in NKY are the most erratic I have ever seen. 3.20/gal one day, 3.85/gal next, 3.30/gal the next. Its a great guessing game on when to fill up.

      • The Artist Formerly Known as Lackadaisical

        In NY it is illegal to disclose that on the pump.

      • The Last American Hero

        I believe it’s illegal in Washington. I recall when they shot up a few stations tried to do this and were slapped down by some agency or another.

      • Nephilium

        The fact it’s illegal in the higher tax states is wonderful. Here it’s mandatory.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Alpine? Tanker trucks into the mountains costs a bit more, don’t they?

    • ron73440

      Never have to worry about that, my Australian Shepard is a great alarm system.

      • R.J.

        My house is tiny. Nowhere to hide.

    • B.P.

      I live with a rather absent-minded teenage boy. I could have a half-dozen poop-flinging baboons phrogging in my house and not know it.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of poisoning the earth

    The nation’s largest public utility is moving ahead with a plan for a new natural gas plant in Tennessee despite warnings that its environmental review of the project doesn’t comply with federal law. The Tennessee Valley Authority announced in April that it would replace the aging coal-burning Kingston Fossil Plant with gas amid growing calls for the agency’s new board of directors to invest in renewables.

    The board, with six of nine members appointed by President Biden, is expected to meet on Thursday in Nashville, a day after a planned protest by a coalition of environmental groups demanding the utility stop investing in fossil fuels.

    Decommissioning the Kingston plant, the site of a massive 2008 coal ash spill, is part of TVA’s overall plan to reduce its reliance on coal. In analyzing alternatives to replace the plant, the utility considered either a new 1,500-megawatt gas plant or 1,500 megawatts of solar combined with 2,200 megawatts of battery storage. TVA concluded that a 2027 deadline for retiring the current plant does not give it enough time to develop the renewables alternative.

    No half measures!

    • Gustave Lytton

      Public utility or federal agency? It’s not both.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    The Environmental Protection Agency asked the utility in a March 25 letter to redo several aspects of its analysis, citing “numerous” concerns with the plan to install new gas turbines. Among other things, the EPA accused the utility of defining the Kingston project so narrowly that only its predetermined choice of a new gas plant would meet the parameters, making the evaluation process a “foreordained formality.” EPA said the utility did not adequately explain the need for the 2027 closure or look at possible alternatives.

    The EPA said the environmental review does not meet the requirements of the National Environmental Policy Act, which requires federal agencies like the Tennessee Valley Authority to assess the environmental impact of proposed actions before making a decision.

    You’re using the wrong fudge factors.

    • juris imprudent

      OK, how about considering a nuclear plant?

  30. The Late P Brooks

    The Tennessee Valley Authority has said it intends to build 10,000 megawatts of solar by 2035. Wamsted contends that is too far in the future.

    “It should be, ‘We’re going to build as much solar as we possibly can now,’ because it’s now that we really need to worry about,” he said. “We don’t need to worry about 10 years from now or 15 years from now.”

    Okay, Chicken Little.

    • Urthona

      I feel like building solar in heavy thunderstorm areas is asking for trouble.

      • R.J.

        Texas has devastating hail the size of STEVE SMITH’s fist all Spring. That’s not an issue for solar cells with glass or plastic covers. It Is Known that panel manufacturers and installers plan for this.

        https://www.newsweek.com/thousands-solar-panels-texas-destroyed-hailstorm-1883546

        Also they totally plan to contain coolant leaks, no issues there. You are concerned over nothing.

  31. Fatty Bolger

    If you’re into true crime, this is an interesting case. A girlfriend (Karen Read) is accused of hitting her cop boyfriend (John O’Keefe) with her car, and then leaving him to die in the snow at an acquaintance’s house during a blizzard. But the defense has a theory that he was killed in the house by said acquaintance, and it’s not as farfetched as it might seem at first. Bonus: potential cop corruption and coverup, because the acquaintance was also a cop, with connections to the people doing the investigation, and is currently being investigated by the feds (whether for this, or something else, is unknown).

    Her trial is happening now. Here’s a pretty good recap of the case:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8PSw_OTHY

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Life’s little mysteries

    California has among the highest minimum wages in the country — and it automatically increases with inflation — and far surpasses the $7.25 federal minimum wage. But it’s also home to some of the most expensive cities in the world. The minimum wage pencils out to about $33,000 a year, and the average cost of living in California is about $53,082 annually, according to recent federal data.

    Everybody deserves a living wage. It’s only fair.

    • Sean

      They should have mandatory Onlyfans accounts. I hear everyone makes a ton of money there.

    • juris imprudent

      Average cost should be covered by minimum wage. Right. Journalism majors don’t even take basic math, do they?

      • juris imprudent

        Reading Schumpeter’s Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy and he writes of the potential per capita income in 1978, as a 50 year projection based on the preceding 50 year performance (and of course caveats that); the amusing point – he says IF that should happen, it would render poverty meaningless.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Assemblymember Liz Ortega, a Democrat who represents Hayward, is the chair of the Assembly Committee on Labor and Employment. She said, “I wish it was that easy” when asked if the Legislature plans to outright mandate a higher minimum wage for all any time soon.

    Instead, Democrats have been “chipping away at it,” said Ortega, a longtime labor leader. The demands from excluded workers are expected, she said, and can be good for the cause.

    “I think it’s a great conversation to be having. That means we’re making progress,” she said. “I support increasing wages, period. I don’t have a number in mind.”

    Death by a thousand cuts incremental increases.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Texas has devastating hail the size of STEVE SMITH’s fist all Spring. That’s not an issue for solar cells with glass or plastic covers. It Is Known that panel manufacturers and installers plan for this.

    Speaking of solar panels, What about totally mundane practical considerations like dust and mineral buildup from rain and snow? Are all those panels equipped with windshield wiper/washers?

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Tricia La Belle, who owns bars and restaurants in Los Angeles, recently listed two businesses for sale as she struggles to cope with costs. She says that any new wage hikes will tank small-business owners like her.

    “I can’t do it anymore. We’re in the red,” said La Belle, who is also the president of the Greater Los Angeles Hospitality Assn. “There are no restaurants that can survive this. Between insurance, utilities, rent and labor costs, we’re going to see restaurants go down like dominoes this year.”

    A bill making its way through the Legislature by Assemblymember Ash Kalra (D-San Jose) would require California to conduct a study on raising the minimum wage, calling the current rate “wholly inadequate.”

    It’s like looking into a crystal ball.

    Behold! The future!

  36. B.P.

    “Dean McGee is “in it for the long haul” to find justice for the McGhee family after their 16-year-old son was suspended for using the term “illegal alien” at his North Carolina school.”

    “Illegal alien” is a phrase that appears in the United States Code, for God’s sake. It is also completely race-neutral. Tough luck, language controllers.

    I also see no one has a problem with identifying the minor in the case by name. I guess that only applies in certain instances. For instance, the unnamed minor in the article who threatened to kick the ass of the minor who used the verboten terminology.

    • CPRM

      The only acceptable term is Newcomers.

    • Not Adahn

      Lol at the AP blaming JPII.

    • Not Adahn

      In churches from Minnesota to California, parishioners have protested changes introduced by new conservative priests. In Cincinnati, it came when the new priest abandoned gospel music and African drumming. In small-town North Carolina, it was an intense focus on Latin. In east Texas, it was a right-wing bishop forced out by the Vatican after accusing Pope Francis of undermining church teachings.

      African drumming? The UMC abandoned Africans altogether!

    • Nephilium

      Catholics in the mist.

    • trshmnstr

      From my protestant evangelical perspective, it seems that much of the push is on gender lines. Men are pushing for a cleansing of the most overt feminization of the church, and there’s an intra-gender battle going on between the trad women and the modern women. Trad women are on board with the changes, while modern women are pitching a fit because of “church hurt” and a dozen other wokisms they use to explain why they’re the victim.

      The men, especially the younger men, are very much over it. The older men in leadership are struggling to get their heads around what’s happening, and many in leadership are aligning with the modern women because they’ve not accepted the fact that victimhood has been weaponized, even in their churches.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    That’s really cool!

    You gotta love innovation.

  38. Common Tater

    “Breaking: House Democrats Vote UNANIMOUSLY to Give Illegal Aliens Representation in Congress and the Electoral College”

    The language of H.R.7109 is as follows: To require a citizenship question on the decennial census, to require reporting on certain census statistics, and to modify apportionment of Representatives to be based on United States citizens instead of all individuals.

    Democrats in the Senate will not bring this to a vote thus giving illegals representation in Congress.”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/breaking-house-democrats-vote-unanimously-give-illegal-aliens/