Wednesday Morning Links

by | Oct 23, 2024 | Daily Links | 266 comments

The great Fernando Valenzuela has died. The Chiefs are getting D-Hop, the World Series is about to get under way. And the UCL went pretty much to script yesterday, aside from Real Madrid’s first half and the boys from Stuttgart getting a well-deserved win on the road at Juventus. More on tap today. Now on to…the links!

The media are pulling out all the stops. Shit, I don’t know what to do now. I’ve been using a racist trope for years to describe my kids when they don’t clean their room. I should be more niggardly with my use of that slur.

Yeah, this is what happens in war. Between throwing a generation of men into a meat grinder and a ton of other men and women fleeing. But anything to fuel the MIC, right boys?

Tulsi joins the GOP. I thought she already had done so.

I’m not sure how this surprised anybody. Dude had his stores hire shirtless, underage models in their stores for years.

Why would this shock the guy? Newsom doesn’t understand the carrot. He only knows the stick.

These dumbasses just can’t stop with the poor gun safety. Steel targets at ten feet with a rifle and scope? No wonder they are such big fans of gun control. They don’t know how to use them.

“We’re terrified the gravy train will end.” Yeah, well, let’s hope it does.

Never trust these freaking psychopaths. “Free Willy?” Nope. How about “Shoot Willy On Sight?” That would be a better move and a better movie.

She’s shoring up the retard vote. Good for her, I suppose.

Oh, good lord. People will sue anybody with money over the dumbest shit.

Here’s a catchy one for you. Love these guys. I know a bunch of you do as well. Enjoy them.

And enjoy this lovely Wednesday, dear friends.

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266 Comments

  1. Pat

    Trump hurls a string of insults at Harris including ‘lazy,’ a racist trope against Black people

    If the first thing you think about when someone uses the word “lazy” is black people, the racist piece of shit is, in fact, you.

    • Rat on a train

      “Why do I keep hearing racist dog whistles?”

    • cavalier973

      Also, Kamala isn’t actually of African descent.

      • cavalier973

        But, neither was “Little Black Sambo”.

        Funny thing about LBS: he literally ate tigers for breakfast.

        Why is this little book panned, instead of being celebrated for its black empowerment?

      • DrOtto

        I eat carburetors for breakfast

      • UnCivilServant

        Didn’t anyone tell you too many carbs are bad for you?

    • rhywun

      Democrat, racist piece of shit – same thing.

    • Cunctator

      “Trump hurls a string of insults at Harris including ‘lazy,’ a racist trope against Black people”

      If I refer to myself as lazy, which I often am, am I now also guilty of cultural appropriation?

  2. Ownbestenemy

    Noticed that KC report didn’t use the most egregious photos of their ‘range’ day

    • sloopyinca

      You mean the one the Dem running posted to social media calling it “a great day” where Kinzinger is making about five critical shooting errors?

      • Ownbestenemy

        That one and the actual distance of their ‘range’ and the unsecured down range woods…all of it. Also the…well we injured someone and its okay! It happens!

      • Ownbestenemy

        Image that photo of providing first aid was one of the more Trump leaning YT channels. Up in damn arms about how they need to shut it all down.

      • R C Dean

        It’s hard not to pile on. What kind of dumbass uses a belt to put a gauze pad on a wound, anyway? I’ve actually had some training in first aid for bullet wounds, from a doctor who deployed with Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan, even, and I am quite confident that’s not they train Marines to deal with that kind of wound.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Ugh..their weapon bench is driving me crazy. Its like he threw up all his firearms for the photo op “See we have gunz too!”

      • sloopyinca

        I’ll give him a little credit for shooting a reporter though. Let’s not forget that.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        Sloopy in for the kill.

      • Rat on a train

        “See we have gunz too!”
        We’re not beta males. Now watch us act like beta males.

  3. cavalier973

    Duran Duran songs I like:

    The Reflex
    Ordinary World

    • SDF-7

      Heavens… if I listed them all out, it would be quite a long list. I’m not KK — but I’ve been a casual fan of them for years… Just off the top of my head, Rio, Hungry Like the Wolf, Electric Barbarella, pretty much the entire Wedding Album (not just Ordinary World)… they’re one of those bands that I probably like almost everything I hear by them but for some reason I rarely seek them out. Odd, but it happens.

      Anyway, morning all.

      • rhywun

        Rio is probably my fave – if only because it was the first one I remember hearing.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      That many?

      The Chauffeur
      A View to a Kill

      I wonder how the cruise is going.

  4. R C Dean

    Wait, I thought “lazy” was a slur for Mexicans.

    Sounds like Putin is succeeding in depopulating the Ukraine. You Know Who Else . . . .

    • SDF-7

      Hmmm…. I think I know the answer — but I should quit stallin’ on the topic.

      • Ownbestenemy

        “I helped bro!” – Hitler, April 29th, 1945

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I though lazy was a slur for hillbillys?

      Can’t this bigots get there shit straight?

    • bacon-magic

      I thought fat people were lazy.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Im with Sloopy on this. I reserve it for my teens. Little lazy fuckers.

  5. Pat

    But anything to fuel the MIC, right boys?

    For his part, that rugged fighting man and strategic military mastermind Lindsay Graham is ready to fight until the last taught, muscled, flaxen-haired 18 year old Ukrainian boy…

    • juris imprudent

      Yeah, I was going to say no one can count on Graham to help repopulate Ukraine.

      • The Last American Hero

        Unless they paired him up with Nancy A. Pretty sure even Graham would make an exception in that case.

  6. Ownbestenemy

    On Oct. 16, San Francisco resident Michael Contillo filed a lawsuit against Alaska Airlines alleging that the airline’s request to downgrade his seats led to his 3-year-old bulldog Ash dying mid-flight.

    “It makes no sense,” Michael Contillo told the Mercury News about the airline’s decision. “Because there’s less space in the coach seats as compared to the amount of space in first class.”

    Have fun proving that one. I get that you are trying to recoup the thousands you probably dumped on that breed.

    “To move the dogs now would make them very anxious and excited, which would lead to extremely dangerous breathing and heart problems. This change could be lethal for a dog, especially right before you change altitudes,” the lawsuit says.

    Well..your other dog was just fine. Did you not check up on your dog periodically throughout the flight? Lets check the article

    “Once we moved, Ash immediately started to breathe very, very quickly, he started to breathe very heavily,” Contillo told the Mercury News. “He was noticeably petrified and helpless.”

    Following the flight, Ash’s body was discovered in rigor mortis, which “does not really set in until about 4 hours after death for dogs,” the lawsuit says, suggesting that the dog died onboard.

    Oh, so you forgot about your dog that was supposedly in distress but found them in rigor mortis…uh huh. Sounds like you neglected that dog sir.

    • DrOtto

      Coach – it’s good enough for humans, but dogs need first class.

    • Tundra

      Yeah, nothing about that makes sense. We’ve flown with our dog a couple times and checking on her is an automatic thing.

      Sad, of course, but it’s not the airline’s fault.

  7. rhywun

    “Let me tell you what a superior animal is: a whale.”

    Hard to choose just one Insanely stupid quote.

    • R C Dean

      Well, I can think of one software mogul who would have agreed.

      • R C Dean

        Meant, disagreed.

      • R C Dean

        Stupid brain, disregard.

  8. juris imprudent

    Speaking of the gravy train, this one was pulled by a nuclear-powered engine.

    After gaining nonprofit status in August 2023, the organization was awarded $940 million by the Biden administration just eight months later

    The biggest political slushfund in history. Hell even the DoD budget can’t compare (since you actually get something for the money).

    • rhywun

      The biggest political slushfund in history

      Yeah, funding the biggest hoax in world history doesn’t come cheap.

    • Suthenboy

      Govt program/grant = straight up looting the American people.
      Get rid of the fucking trough.

    • Ownbestenemy

      People still even know who ICP is?

      • UnCivilServant

        Internet Chat Protocol?

      • Ownbestenemy

        @UnCiv – probably more people know that than the Clown Posse

    • Not Adahn

      I never understood the hate for juggalos. They cause me less inconvenience than deadheads and their successive generations of jam-band following pseudohippies.

  9. WTF

    Never trust these freaking psychopaths

    I recently watched a documentary on how Orcas hunt Great White sharks and eat their livers. Lacking of course a nice Chianti.

    • DrOtto

      There was a real missed opportunity in the article. About midway it referenced that moose go out into the water searching for food in hot weather. A good journalist would have taken that opportunity to throw in – “which is getting more frequent due to global warming”. Do better Forbes.

  10. UnCivilServant

    Here’s a question for you legal types – can an amendment to a State constitution be struck down for conflicting with the US Constitution?

    • WTF

      I’m not a lawyer, but I would think based on incorporation doctrine the US constitution would apply and a state constitutional amendment that conflicted with it would be struck down. I’m pretty sure a state constitution can’t brink back slavery for example.

    • Ownbestenemy

      More context? On its face, if it is in direct contradiction to something actually in the US Constitution, then yes. For instance, if a state amends their constitution and says the State does not allow free speech or the expression thereof, I would suspect it would be struck down.

      If not, then it would fall under the 10th Amendment (not that courts even recognize that amendment exists.)

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s because of Prop 1 on the NY ballot this year which goes “We’re allowed to discriminate based on race to ‘correct’ discrimination”. Given the downstate fraud machine, I can’t be sure what will happen with it. It strikes me as being in opposition to the federal constitution.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Equal Protection of Law Amendment is quite the in-the-face we have the power title isn’t.

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        I am pretty sure that is exactly what much of the bru-ha-ha about DEI and its wackiness really comes down to. I know Cali has been sued to the gills over exactly that (no state constitutional amendment, thou) and it is why they keep wording things oddly and trying to get rid of a whole bunch of merit testing, such as the SAT.

      • cavalier973

        The dost word things oddly, thyself

    • SDF-7

      IANAL, NDIPOOTV — but I would imagine it would depend on what part of the Constitution it clashes with given the kerfuffle over “incorporation” with (parts of) the Bill of Rights in the Reconstruction Era and beyond. That clearly sets a precedent that *some* of the Constitution is strictly limited to the FedGov and the states can do things differently (as the 10th outright states anyway… but no one actually pays attention to the 10th).

      So — as with most things legal, probably: “It depends” and “Ask a lawyer so we can run up billing hours analyze it”.

      • Suthenboy

        We need an army of lawyers and legislators to sort out what ‘shall not be infringed’ and ‘all men are created equal’ , ‘shall make no law’, ‘shall not be violated’, ‘inalienable rights’, etc. means. It’s so complicated.

    • rhywun

      That stupid Prop is going to easily pass.

      (For context, we have a Prop that Kathy and friends are disingenuously claiming is all about abortion – because she knows her audience I guess – when it’s really all about trojan-horsing in permanent DEI and trannies in girls’ sports and the like.)

      • UnCivilServant

        The Wall Street Journal won’t load for me today. What about the article were you trying to bring to our attention?

      • UnCivilServant

        Wow, that site loads painfully slowly.

        So I gather that the opinion writer at WSJ is not any more a fan of this nonsense than I am. Thing is, I lost track of who which rag was read by.

      • Not Adahn

        “nothing in this section shall invalidate or prevent the adoption of any law, regulation, program, or practice that is designed to prevent or dismantle discrimination.”

        It’s illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, except discriminating against white people is fine.

      • Sensei

        Blame NYS and it’s infrastructure.

        WSJ runs fine on my company’s internet as well as my wireless devices this AM.

        Yes, WSJ is calling it out for what it is.

      • rhywun

        Good description. This thing is super dangerous. And I don’t have any confidence in the courts to touch it after it easily passes.

      • rhywun

        discriminating against white people is fine

        That ship sailed decades ago.

      • WTF

        discriminating against white people is fine

        It’s the only way to counteract white privilege.

    • Suthenboy

      The US constitution plainly states that it is the supreme law of the land meaning any law that contravenes it is no law. It is, after all, the deal we all entered into.
      Of course this means that about 95% of all laws, regulations, etc. are bullshit.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, that’s the problem with the whole concept of sovereignty.

    • Pat

      Only if it overlaps with a power explicated in the federal constitution and incorporated via the 14th amendment. Theoretically, anyway. Since the 10th amendment is dead letter, the practical reality is that the federal courts could, and likely would, void any state constitutional amendment that so much as inconveniences a federal bureaucrat, and probably get SCOTUS to go along with them.

      It’s a mostly theoretical problem anyway, since typically state constitutional amendments are passed to grant the states additional powers exceeding the scope of federal law.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Looks up thread…we have found what we libertarians can agree on..the 10th Amendment is dead.

      • Pat

        Jesus, apparently I’m the slowest on the draw here.

      • SDF-7

        Well, it isn’t like someone was holding a gun to your head to make you go faster Pat.

      • R C Dean

        Just to throw another wrinkle in – the 10th Amendment refers to powers, not rights. It doesn’t provide any support for states limiting rights guaranteed in the Constitution.

        Incorporation of the BoR is a separate question, that has been made unnecessarily complicated by lawyers and judges.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Agreed as rights are numerous and recognized via another dead BoR amendment, the 9th Amendment.

      • Pat

        the 10th Amendment refers to powers, not rights.

        I did phrase it quite deliberately as “Only if it overlaps with a power explicated in the federal constitution and incorporated via the 14th amendment.”

        Which is to say that a state constitutional amendment arrogating a power explicitly barred in the federal constitution, and incorporated via the 14th, would likely be overturned, even though in the pre-14th understanding, states did have the liberty via the 10th amendment to go beyond the powers of the federal government. A good example being state churches enshrined in several state constitutions despite the 1st amendment, since that prohibition on establishment of a religion originally applied only to the federal government. In the modern context, states are typically angling to cover by way of constitutional amendments, legal territory that is either ambiguous, or where federal law is insufficiently repressive for their taste.

    • Ownbestenemy

      The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the state governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negociation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will for the most part be connected. The powers reserved to the several states will extend to all the objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people; and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the state.

      If only we listened to Madison

      • juris imprudent

        He was wrong. The powers held by the States should have been constrained as well.

      • rhywun

        The powers held by the States should have been constrained as well.

        +57

      • Ownbestenemy

        From his viewpoint, I don’t think it was wrong. Assumptions were wrong on how a free people would take the path laid before them, however.

      • WTF

        Assumptions were wrong on how a free people would take the path laid before them, however.

        He didn’t assume universal suffrage, where people with no skin in the game could vote themselves goodies at the expense of others.

      • juris imprudent

        Pretty sure Madison was on board with consent of the governed and sovereignty from the people – both of which are about as substantial as the social contract.

    • CPRM

      Wisconsin passed an amendment to the state constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman. It was blocked as unconstitutional (Wolf V Walker).

      • UnCivilServant

        The constitution says nothing about marriage – so there are no grounds for that ruling

      • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

        It should be blocked, if All Men Are Created Equal is to mean something.

  11. Pat

    When President Joe Biden beat incumbent Donald Trump for the White House nearly four years ago there was relief within the US research community. This election year anxiety among scientists in the US has resurfaced stronger than ever as Trump runs for president once again.

    It probably wouldn’t be completely without merit to accuse me of sour grapes vis-a-vis my utter contempt for the “scientific community,” but particularly after COVID, every self-back-patting grifting sack of shit team D foot soldier with a STEM credential can lick every single square millimeter of my grundle before throwing themselves into the nearest large body of water with a millstone about their neck.

    • Suthenboy

      Yep. This.

      • rhywun

        +2

      • bacon-magic

        +3

    • SDF-7

      Yeah, COVID “policy” the obvious love of technocratic rule, etc. made

      and demonstrating what they describe as a sustained disrespect for the role of science, data and evidence in policymaking

      stand out for me — maybe, just maybe y’all have too high of an opinion for what the role of “science” should be in policymaking, assholes?

      Kind of like the most charitable (and I mean most fucking charitable because I lean towards ‘they just enjoy power when they got it’) interpretation of “health officials” being hyper focused on “no one gets sick!” and damn the rest of the entire system/world/populace… their metric they’re judged on will be perfect, dammit! Even if they have to kill everyone to do it!

      Similarly, having knowledge in a field doesn’t mean jack over shit beyond providing advice given most people are then ignorant of balancing factors, etc… it is not surprising — it is a lot of work and thought to BE an expert in a field, after all… and very, very few are truly multidisciplinary enough to be systems-level-integration types (hell knows I’m not). But Pride is one of the big seven deadlies for a reason.

      Rant off.

      • rhywun

        No charities given here. Their position is no different from a union hack seeking job protection.

      • Rat on a train

        If it saves one life, it is worth impoverishing the world.

      • R C Dean

        And they even failed on the “no one gets sick” metric, because they thoroughly fucked the dog during COVID on the “social determinants of health” – things like exercise, social contact, generalized stress, which undoubtedly made a lot of people sick (and sicker) in different ways.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      What? Scientists loving a technocracy?

      Totally inconceivable!

      • juris imprudent

        A priesthood by another name.

  12. Suthenboy

    The gravy train is the problem. It has killed science. Like the media and almost everyone else, the scientific community, not all but most, have sold their integrity and their souls.

    Just perusing the links I will say again:
    Me: “Phil (Pommy), what happened to your empire? The sun never set on it and now…”
    Phil: “You’ll see.”
    Now I see.

    • invisible finger

      So much this. Far too many segments of society have allowed themselves to become dependent on Leviathan. It’s more stifling of innovation and critical thinking than anything else. Yet anyone that tries NOT to be dependent on Leviathan starts at a massive disadvantage.

      Leviathan will eventually destroy itself but nobody wants to be in the vicinity when Mr. Creosote has his moment.

    • The Other Kevin

      Agree on the gravy train. You only get grant money if you tow the party lion, and your paper will be more likely to get peer reviewed if you’re preaching to the choir. Meanwhile every part of the government, especially health and science related, is a revolving door for people moving in and out of big industries such as pharma companies. Members of the NIH are getting royalties from drug companies, and Fauci refused to say who got how much. And that’s just the corruption we can see.

    • SDF-7

      Yeah, I can imagine having to do a pop dance number everytime you want to transfer funds (and for your bank to then tell you that your loan is denied and you are never, ever, ever getting back together) would be annoying. No wonder they want an alternative to Swift.

    • Pat

      The problem is that after you’ve settled a transaction in a relatively weak or unstable currency, you have to convert it into something worth holding, or that can be used to facilitate the purchase of other commodities. So it’s a step towards shaking off the USD, but not really a permanent solution.

      • SDF-7

        So it’s a step towards shaking off the USD

        Well, they have to be careful how they do it — or they’ll end up with bad blood with the existing financial markets and will become an exile.

      • Suthenboy

        weak or unstable currency – fiat currency
        something worth holding – real estate or commodity

        What was it someone said yesterday about Cuba? They have no electricity or tangible good but are awash in useless currency.

      • robodruid

        Some sort of strategic metal

  13. Ownbestenemy

    I have fond memories going to Dodger Stadium as a lad with my dad to watch the late great Fernando Valenzuela.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I remember a friends mom who was a huge Dodgers fan going nuts over him on the mound.

    • rhywun

      Taps out in the first sentence.

      Four years ago, a sitting president — rejected by American voters — attempted to seize a second term anyway

      His attempts to “seize a […] term” were no different from every losing Democrat.

      • Pat

        The only dictator in history to have effectuated a coup, by which he left office on the appointed date of the termination of his term.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Get your mind right, he led an insurrection of unarmed gun nuts where literally dozens of brave cops were beaten to death with fire extinguishers.

      • Rat on a train

        What’s the magic object that makes the bearer the President similar to the gavel for the Speaker of the House?

    • slumbrew

      The headline was enough for me to punch-out. Derpity-doo!

    • Ownbestenemy

      That is amazing.

    • bacon-magic

      4 “journalists” co-wrote that travesty AND got paid for it. We don’t hate the media enough.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Good thing it is TLDR for about 95% of our voting population

      • Raven Nation

        @ OBE

        Not news here, but most of the journalists writing about national politics are writing for each other.

    • DrOtto

      Did SF drop early today? Not as much sex overtones, but still pretty damn funny.

  14. Not Adahn

    Thoughts from my trip back home:

    I grew up in NE OK, and spent eight summers living in the woods near Tahlequah as a professional Boy Scout. However, the part of the Illinois reiver where we scattered my father’s ashes was south of where I ever went, so I had never even heard of these tiny towns before. This is opposed to the many tiny towns in western OK where I would drive my meteorologist fraternity brother through while storm chasing in college.

    The time was mostly spent around the bustling metropoli of Chicken Creek, Blackgum, and Vian. The degree of change and development there from other lakeside towns that I remembered from three decades back is functionally zero. Roads are still unpaved. Minor roads are rarely, if ever graded, which along with the hilly terrain made me wish that my mom’s Outback had been lifted a bit. Chicken Creek has a community storm shelter, a VFD and a shaved ice trailer that also serves Hunt Brothers foodstuffs. The VRBO rental we stayed at was straight out of the 1930s in terms of architecture, climate control, and plumbing. But in a perfect example of how modern manufacturing makes certain things stupidly cheap, each room had a <5-year-old HDTV in it.

    The closest place to buy groceries was a Dollar General five miles away. The closest actual grocery store was 10 miles away in Vian. It got me thinking as to how people living here actually, you know, lived. But casting my memory back, when we would go out to the lake (Tenkiller in this case we always had to bring food up here from home, there never was anywhere to buy groceries.

    The lakeside towns are probably the worst of all possible worlds for me, living-wise. They’re all small lots where you can see a half dozen neighbors or more, but none of the amenities of urban life. I guess it works for people who primarily want to be out on the water. Many more coyotes as night than there were. Skies are still dark and brilliant with stars. I’m sure UnCiv would have found the nature hideous, but for me it’s home.

    I reserved some of the ashes to sprinkle over my Grandparent’s graves. The cemetery is large and well-kept and does not seem to be in danger of going out of business and abandoned as so many are up here. However, the wall and chapel there were obviously constructed by Daedra cultists. Oklahoma has extremely high-quality bricks and brickwork, since the state is made of mud. I’ll upload a picture and link to it, but the fence (which is notably NOT in the cemetery’s website) which is brick is not made of red brick, but brown and black. The bricks are set at all angles and none, and in addition to bricks, pieces of bubbly (volcanic?) stone are set in as well, adding to the chaos temple appearance. The fence is immaculate as if it were just built, but it’s been there as long as I can remember, so you can’t really attribute the style choice to an embarrassing embrace of modernism.

      • slumbrew

        Oh, dear. That’s an unfortunate wall.

        Glad you had time to reconnect with your roots a bit & my condolences on the passing of your dad.

      • rhywun

        Wow.

      • Sean

        Whoah.

      • bacon-magic

        ew

      • R C Dean

        Especially for a cemetery.

      • WTF

        Looks like it was partially melted in a nuclear blast.

      • PieInTheSky

        well it successfully kept the residents in suppose

    • R C Dean

      “The fence is immaculate as if it were just built”

      Chaos temple CONFIRMED

      • Not Adahn

        Apparently it was built in 1938.

      • SDF-7

        Ivo Shandor and Associates?

      • UnCivilServant

        Whoever built that wall…

      • Not Adahn

        …was highly skilled at masonry? I imagine it’s really hard to build something that irregular that is that enduring.

        Unless of course it’s being supernaturally enhanced.

      • UnCivilServant

        Being skilled does not necessarily mean they were also sane.

        I just wonder which dark god/eldrich entity they prayed to while laying those stones.

    • Pat

      Oklahoma has extremely high-quality bricks and brickwork, since the state is made of mud.

      So you’re saying they built a wall that was uglier than a mud fence?

      • Not Adahn

        I mean, if they meant it as a symbol of entropy and the inevitable disintegration of all life and existence, then they nailed it.

    • Fourscore

      A beautiful setting, NA.

      At some point I’ll be joining your dad, my ashes too, will be blowing in the wind.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I… actually like that wall. I would have to ask my brother, the architect, what the style is called specifically, but I know that was a trend for a period way back when. Fairy Tale Gothic, maybe? Or some offshoot from that, I seem to remember.

      • rhywun

        I like it too.

    • Tundra

      Tenkiller looks beautiful!

      The lakeside towns are probably the worst of all possible worlds for me, living-wise.

      Lake culture is that way in Minne as well. A lot of homes clustered on the shore. Some of the lakes further from the Twin Cities offer more seclusion, but add a lot of travel time.

      I’m glad your trip went well.

  15. R C Dean

    “Four years ago, a sitting president — rejected by American voters — attempted to seize a second term anyway, plunging the nation into confusion, conflict and, in its last gasp, violence.”

    I tapped out after the first sentence.

    • Rat on a train

      He would have gotten away with it if too, if it weren’t for those meddling kids.

      • dbleagle

        Yikes Scooby!

  16. Ownbestenemy

    2024 election updates: Harris calls herself a ‘pragmatic capitalist’

    Uh-huh.

    The ChatGPT actually puts Trump more into that category

    Describing Kamala Harris or Donald Trump as a pragmatic capitalist can be nuanced.

    Kamala Harris: As a politician, she tends to emphasize social justice, equity, and regulation, which sometimes contrasts with a purely capitalist perspective. However, she also supports policies that encourage business growth and innovation, suggesting a pragmatic approach to balancing capitalism with social concerns.

    Donald Trump: He often portrays himself as a pragmatic capitalist, emphasizing deal-making, entrepreneurship, and a focus on economic growth. His business background and policies aimed at deregulation and tax cuts reflect a capitalist approach. However, his style and rhetoric can be polarizing, which may lead some to view his approach as more self-serving or ideological rather than strictly pragmatic.

    In summary, both can exhibit elements of pragmatic capitalism, but their approaches and underlying philosophies differ significantly.

    • Rat on a train

      mean tweets!

    • Suthenboy

      Nuanced. It is always nuanced and always ends with ‘right wing extremist’.
      They call Hitler a right wing fanatic FFS.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    He, however, implied that Harris, a onetime California attorney general and U.S. senator, became the Democratic nominee because of her race and gender.

    “She’s running because they want to be politically correct,” Trump said.

    That should be easy enough to fact check. Get joe Biden on the phone.

    • slumbrew

      She was explicitly chosen because “brown vagina” but we’re supposed to forget that now.

      • WTF

        Odd how they tell us DEI is a good thing, but then get offended when we recognize a DEI hire.

      • Rat on a train

        Pledging to select a woman and selecting a woman was just a coincidence.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Well, we all know that if you don’t vote for him, you ain’t black!

  18. The Other Kevin

    I’m working on a piece for The Atlantic about Trump’s interview with Joe Rogan. How’s this for a start:

    Trump’s declining mental state and Rogan’s science denialism were on full display as the pair discussed a string of discredited conspiracy theories and Trump’s plan to remake America into a white supremacist dictatorship.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Working title:

      “Bleach and Horse Paste: Trump and Rogan Give Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini and Pol Pot A Run For Their Money”

      • PieInTheSky

        Mao, Stalin were commies they had good intentions they are not as bad as the Fash

      • bacon-magic

        Headline: “Trump and Rogan discuss eliminating democracy.”

    • PieInTheSky

      you somehow need to get the patriarchy in

    • The Other Kevin

      I think we should put together a writing co-op that submits articles like this under a few pseudonyms. Then see if anyone publishes our work before they realize we’re trolling them.

      • DrOtto

        It’d turn into that hollywood trope where it starts as a joke but becomes so successful we couldn’t give it up.

  19. Ownbestenemy

    Really wondering if the rural voters, who probably don’t bother with elections because for the most part, Federal policies weren’t affecting them all that much. Sure some intrusions and headaches, but nothing to really drive them to actually vote in droves.

    However, over the past few years with an unvetted open border and influx of populations into small towns that probably had near stagnant or small growth over decades really affecting their slice of American pie might rouse them to act.

    • Fourscore

      I met an old guy yesterday at the post office. He’s a fairly newcomer to Podunkville, we discussed the changes but his changes are the last 20 years, mine are the last 70 years. We didn’t have a lot of commonality other than the state/national changes.

      Still, good to meet someone that can still laugh and enjoy being here.

    • The Other Kevin

      There’s a guy who moved to Pennsylvania (Scott Pressler) to register people to vote. He spent a lot of time with the Amish because of the regulations on raw milk and such.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Rural Nevada is apparently turning out. How that all plays into things, who know, it is a tall wall to overcome in Clark County, specifically Las Vegas proper. However, the population there are California expats after 2022 during the housing price insanity. Maybe they vote the Cali way, maybe they learned their lesson (okay…I had to struggle with typing that out).

    • PieInTheSky

      Swoleshevik ☭🌿🚩
      @PunishedSwole
      If Hoxha has a million fans, I am one of them!
      If Hoxha has a thousand fans, I am one of them!
      If Hoxha has one fan, it is me!
      If Hoxha has no fans, I am dead!
      If the world is against Hoxha, I am against the world!

      Reconstruct the Maoist Communist Party ☭ 🚩📕
      @MaoCharuGonzalo
      If Chairman Gonzalo has a million fans, I am one of them!
      If Chairman Gonzalo has a thousand fans, I am one of them!
      If Chairman Gonzalo has one fan, it is me!
      If Chairman Gonzalo has no fans, I am dead!
      If the world is against Chairman Gonzalo, I am against the world!

      https://x.com/MaoCharuGonzalo/status/1849054982126846243

      • R.J.

        Good. Let them fight among themselves and leave us alone.

    • WTF

      SPLITTERS!!

  20. slumbrew

    Like putting “social” in front of “justice” – utterly changes the meaning.

    • WTF

      Changes the meaning to the opposite.

    • slumbrew

      Meant as a reply to OBE and Kammy the “pragmatic capitalist”.

    • mindyourbusiness

      I loathe that word, along with “economic”, “racial” and other modifiers used as special pleading

  21. Sensei

    Good news for TOK.

    The Transportation Department said American would be required to pay $25 million of the fine. The remaining $25 million would be credited toward the airline’s investments in wheelchair-accessibility infrastructure.

    When is a $50m fine a $25M fine? When you’ve already spent more than $25m to try to reduce the issue.

    American Airlines Fined $50 Million Over Treatment of Passengers With Disabilities
    https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/american-airlines-fined-50-million-over-treatment-of-passengers-with-disabilities-b3e86899?st=CnmbXP&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Watching that chair go flying by the baggage handlers is a disgrace.

    • The Other Kevin

      WOW! True story… I have a wheelchair right now that is a result of AA’s malfeasance. A teammate was traveling on a ski trip, and while on an AA flight the pilot came back and told him he saw the baggage handlers drop his wheelchair about 10 feet. He said to make sure to file a complaint. It was badly scratched but the frame was ok. They ended up paying for a whole new chair. When he went to exchange for a new chair, he asked the guy what was going to happen to the old chair. The guy said he’d refurbish it and donate it somewhere. My teammate knew I needed a chair, and he asked if he could just donate it to me. That was fine, as long as I don’t fly on AA and claim it was damaged. I have since gotten a new custom chair, but I still have the damaged one to use at the gym. DEG has seen me in that one.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    They’ve got him now

    John Kelly, who was White House chief of staff during the Trump administration, said in a series of recent interviews that former President Donald Trump spoke positively about Adolf Hitler when he was in office.

    ——-

    “He commented more than once that, you know, that Hitler did some good things, too,” Kelly said. He also told the New York Times that Trump meets “the general definition of a fascist.”

    “Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure,” Kelly said.

    Let me guess: Hitler built some impressive roads and buildings? He understood marketing?

    • juris imprudent

      C’mon, our system of government and corporations are already fascism for all practical purposes – why not a fascist leader?

    • The Other Kevin

      As usual, zero percent chance this is true, and zero percent chance this changes anyone’s mind. It’s just riling up the base.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    The Atlantic reported earlier Tuesday that Trump had privately admired Hitler’s generals “who were totally loyal to him” and followed orders, privately saying in a conversation at the White House, “I need the kind of generals that Hitler had.”

    Competent?

    • R C Dean

      He’d probably settle for generals that follow orders.

      But, this is anonymously sourced Atlantic, so it never happened.

      • Ownbestenemy

        All of MSM: Well we have counter reporting that is first-hand, named names saying it isn’t true. Run the stories anyway!

    • rhywun

      Considering that Trump’s generals disobeyed his orders and openly bragged about it, yeah no shit.

    • Suthenboy

      They followed orders? Does that include the one that bragged about deliberately not following orders and deceiving Trump about it?

      You would think some of these assholes would tell the truth once in a while if only by accident.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    More recently, Democrats have likened some of Trump’s rhetoric to Hitler’s. In December, Trump sparked backlash with a remark he made at a rally in New Hampshire in which he said immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” Hitler used the term “blood poisoning” in his manifesto, “Mein Kampf,” to denigrate immigration and the mixing of races. Trump has denied reading the text.

    Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, referred to The Atlantic’s reporting on Trump’s admiration of Hitler’s generals at a campaign rally in Racine, Wisconsin, on Tuesday night, saying, “That makes me sick as hell, and it should make you sick.”

    I think it has been pretty well established that the Democrats hate patriotism and respect for country and culture. I do not doubt it literally sickens them.

    • juris imprudent

      You must scourge yourself, white person, of your privileges (and impurities).

      • The Other Kevin

        According to Obama, black men need to do the same.

    • The Other Kevin

      These people have had the Hitler rhetoric turned all the way up and try as they might, they can’t find another level to take it up to.

      • Rat on a train

        How high do we need to raise it to get someone to rid us of this turbulent politician?

      • slumbrew

        awards +1 for correctly using ‘turbulent’

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Best response:

      “I grew up in a house so remote we chopped firewood to heat it.

      You are a LARPer who has no idea what they’re talking about. You couldn’t be self-sufficient if you lived in a fucking Kroger.”

      • R C Dean

        And I doubt the person who made that “you’re a LARPer” comment was chopping their firewood with a flint axe they knapped themselves. Self-sufficiency is a spectrum. No need to be a prick about it. That little farm is at one point on the spectrum, and Mr. Hairy-Chested Mountain Man was at a different point.

    • R C Dean

      Certainly not self-sufficient, but you can get a lot of chow from intensive land use.

      I do wonder, though, just whose forest those pigs are tearing up.

    • Suthenboy

      yeah. all of that hoarding and self-sufficienting stuff will be stamped out. Jackboots with guns will show up to watch their minions take a machete and weed killer to your gardens and dynamite your well.

  25. Sensei

    Defaults on capital-call commitments from large institutions “have been historically close to 0%,” according to a marketing document for Goldman’s bond viewed by The Wall Street Journal. That makes the bonds extremely safe, said debt fund managers to whom Goldman offered the deal.

    Until there is a liquidity crisis and these firms hold out their hands to FedGov as they are “systemically important”. It’s ****ing unreal how regardless if it is Team Blue or Team Red supporting these firms always managed to privatize the upside on these deals while making the public pay for the downside.

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/watch-out-wall-street-is-finding-new-ways-to-slice-and-dice-loans-d80415dc?st=qMHW5p&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

  26. Common Tater

    “Arkansas is sitting on a $150 billion ‘hidden treasure’ trove of lithium that could meet the global demand for EV batteries by 2030.

    The US Geological Survey (USGS) found between five and 19 million tons of lithium in the Smackover Formation, which is nine times the amount needed to meet the ongoing electric vehicle demand in the US by the end of the decade.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13988211/Arkansas-lithium-reserve-solve-EV-battery-demand.html

    Watermelon fight!

    • PieInTheSky

      150 billion does not seem that much given the state of world debt

    • rhywun

      Unless they can import child slaves from China, ain’t gonna happen. Oh who am I kidding, they’ll just tax the shit out of us to pay for living union wages.

      • PieInTheSky

        Nonsense, you will just need migrants to do the jobs Americans wont

      • Ted S.

        Trump is going to put all the black people in chains and make them mine the lithium.

    • juris imprudent

      Mining is icky. Processing is icky. But we love our electronic gadgets!!! Let’s keep all the icky stuff out of sight, let the PoC and the global poor suffer that while we enjoy our toys.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Que up the stories on this is why we need to import millions of more PoCs!

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      I drove threw AR not long ago, man, HARD NO.

    • Suthenboy

      Pro-tip: Do not invest your own money in the net zero, EV, green energy crap unless you are connected to a pol. If y ou are then sign on for Musk like subsidies.
      The whole thing is going to collapse.

    • Grumbletarian

      Smackover is that new slap fight league, right?

  27. PieInTheSky

    The Onion
    @TheOnion
    Donald Trump Stares Forlornly At Tiny, Aged Penis In Mirror Before Putting On Clothes, Beginning Day

    https://x.com/TheOnion/status/1849088538224079039

    this is actually pathetic. The Onion used to at least try, if my memoir serves, many years ago

    • Tundra

      Right around the turn of the century is when I remember them being somewhat funny.

      Yep. 2001

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      The Onion is still around?

      What a sad looking website.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Cracks in the wall

    “The threat of Trump that I think many voters who align with the Democratic Party believe is imminent, I’m not sure young people kind of buy into that narrative,” said Cathy Cohen, a professor at the University of Chicago who founded and serves as the executive director of the GenForward poll.

    “I also think that for young voters of color, there is a kind of tentative feeling about the effectiveness of democracy anyway,” she added.

    The kids are tuning out the frenzied Chicken Little doom mongering? They look around and see 350 million people in this country, and realize this is the best the parties can come up with? Maybe there’s a faint flicker of hope.

    • The Other Kevin

      Their biggest problem is they try to gaslight people on things that everyone sees with their own eyes, and people are catching on to their bullshit.

      COVID shots keep you from getting sick.
      Joe Biden is sharp as a tack and doing cartwheels behind closed doors.
      The economy is actually doing great.
      The border is secure.
      Kamala is so brat!

  29. KK, Plump & Unfiltered

    Most of the gang are off the ship buying chocolate & cigars & touring around. Puerto Plata is a cute little harbor.

    Couple of pics to come as soon as someone sends them to me.

    • UnCivilServant

      Whycome you docked big boat in little harbor?

      • Ownbestenemy

        *squints* hrmmmm

      • slumbrew

        That doesn’t even rise to the level of euphemism

      • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

        Our ass…errr…aft is hanging out the back of the harbor

      • slumbrew

        *stern

        (Yes, yes, not nearly as funny)

      • bacon-magic

        Rule 34 is why.

    • The Other Kevin

      We went to a resort on the DM once. It’s beautiful and the people seemed pretty nice.

      • slumbrew

        I believe you even wrote about it.

        We were in Cap Cana in early June and quite enjoyed it.

    • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

      Pending receipt of the group pics from last night, here’s my current sitcheeayshon. Yes, I’m on the ship. Yes, that’s real turf.

      https://ibb.co/kxWBGrH

    • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

      Just ordered my first drink of the day! 🍸

    • R C Dean

      Glad to hear it’s going well.

    • R C Dean

      Stupid white Europeans can’t even patriarchy right.

  30. Common Tater

    “The presidential race between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris appears razor-thin, so Democrats are looking for American voters wherever they might be to cast ballots including Canada.

    The exact number of Americans living abroad is hard to determine, but it is believed more than four million U.S. citizens are living overseas.

    The top country where adult U.S. citizens are living outside the U.S. is Canada.

    Some 605,000 adult U.S. citizens are living north of the border according to the non-partisan Federal Voting Assistance Program.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13983511/canada-voters-decide-election-2024-swing-states.html

    There are 605,000 people in Canada?

  31. The Late P Brooks

    I believe Dwight Eisenhower was on the record as an admirer of Hitler’s highway system. We should dig him up and desecrate his corpse. Tear down his monuments and strike his name from the records.

  32. PieInTheSky

    Sexual behaviour in pre-contact Hawaii.

    While having a system of taboos (kapu) that was very restrictive in many areas, when it came to sex there were almost no rules. A very promiscuous and free-love society.

    Nudity was extremely common, especially with young children. All surfing and swimming was done in the nude. Wearing wet clothes was an executable offence.

    Boys were circumcised around the age of 7. To prepare them for this grandmothers would blow into a baby’s foreskin every day. This practice was still being done in the 1980s, it’s potentially still being performed.

    As for girls: breast milk would be squirted into the vagina.

    Sex happened everywhere so children were brought up seeing/learning about it. Once they reached puberty there was more formal instruction from adults. Older women would sleep with boys to teach them. Girls were taught complete muscle control.

    Kamehameha I’s first wife was 13

    Sex between social classes was generally forbidden. Within social classes: anything goes.

    Casual sex between strangers was extremely common. Resulting pregnancies were welcomed, the communal nature of family life meant paternity wasn’t much of a care

    Virginity was only important for chieftesses. Once she was married she could sleep with as many men as she wanted. Body counts of 40.

    Elderly men would regularly sleep with 12 year olds

    https://x.com/nobodyatallbros/status/1848755372041113723

    simpler, happier times.

    • Suthenboy

      Margaret Mead approves.

      That is all bullshit.

      I used to work with a Samoan. He said Mead’s book was complete fantasy. Generally more primitive cultures are highly family oriented and have different, but strict moral systems.
      The whole ‘living free with nature and anything goes’ is a complete canard meant to make us question and thus weaken our own culture.

  33. KK, Plump & Unfiltered

    Observe my powers – I may have made a social worker consider libertarianism. TBF we were both tipsy so she may not remember saying “that makes sense” for every counterpoint I made 😆

    • Ownbestenemy

      Pics or it didn’t happen

    • slumbrew

      “Yes! Let the hate liberty flow through you!”

    • KK, Plump & Unfiltered

      We talked about the electoral college. I told her that under direct democracy, her vote would be rendered essentially meaningless (she’s from KC), and that LA, Chicago, and NYC would decide who wins.

      • slumbrew

        That’s the strongest EC argument but I also like “it limits damage from cheating to that one state”.

      • The Other Kevin

        That cheating argument is the one I use. And I think it’s why states are not really into switching.

    • Fourscore

      Wait until she sobers up. “Some people” agree to things that they regret when morning sunshine comes.

      • Ted S.

        I don’t think Kamala is sobering up.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Nothing to see here

    Evoking the Battle of Yorktown and misspelling the word Britain, former President Donald Trump issued a remarkable legal complaint against the United Kingdom’s ruling Labour Party late Tuesday, accusing it of “blatant foreign interference” in the U.S. election in favor of Vice President Kamala Harris.

    Trump’s team asked the Federal Election Commission to investigate after a senior Labour figure posted a rallying cry for current and former staffers to travel to battleground states and campaign for Harris ahead of the Nov. 5 vote.

    British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Wednesday his party had done nothing wrong. Party members often travel to the United States ahead of elections to help out their Democratic bedfellows, he said, but added that this was voluntary rather than party-led, and therefore does not contravene American election law.

    The defence of democracy is no respecter of borders.

    • rhywun

      It’s OK when socialists do it.

    • slumbrew

      If the British PM says it doesn’t violate American election laws, who are we to question it?

      • UnCivilServant

        He doesn’t even follow UK electoral laws, so his opinion isn’t worth the breath is was uttered on.

    • Rat on a train

      It’s not like they are buying Facebook ads.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of young people and college-

    I occasionally do a flyby of my alma mater’s student paper. In addition to an article about the current interim president (they go through presidents like cheap sneakers) in which she seemed to acknowledge that mistakes were made during the plague hysteria and campus culture is in serious need of revival, there was an article about admissions. Enrollment is down, because so many of the people they offered admission to decided to go somewhere else. Value for money? Pffft.

    I think they might be in trouble. Maybe, just maybe, they will correct course and give up on at least some of the most extreme and odious progressive nonsense, but I doubt it. Interim president is still all in on the DEI catechism, as long as the diversity is not intellectual.

    • R C Dean

      What school?

      I don’t think I’ve read or heard a single thing from either of my alma maters in years, maybe decades. Other than perhaps a few fundraising begs and reunion announcements.

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      Were did you go to school, The Colorado School of Mimes?

      • Rat on a train

        I considered going to a mime college, but when I visited the campus all I saw was a bunch of people in an empty field.

      • KSuellington

        That just puts you in a box that you will never get out of.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        They might be in trouble, but they refuse to talk about it.

  36. Rat on a train

    Corporate America’s leftward shift

    Once a bastion for buttoned-up center-right executives, corporate America has drifted left, a new study finds.

    When government picks winners and losers you want to be friendly with those that will do the picking.

    • The Other Kevin

      Until the white supremacists boycott you and it affects your bottom line.

      • Rat on a train

        This film is not for people like you …

    • ZWAK, doktor of BRAIN SCIENCE!

      The upper-middle class is soft-left, so, of course corporate America is the same.

      And, now the counter-culture is leaning right.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      When I look at the donations from the top executives at my company it’s pretty obvious they are doing so to curry favor. Yes, they might agree with the politicians they are donating to, but donations to some high ranking Senator in a safe seat from another state (cough, Schumer, cough) reek of influence buying.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    corporate America has drifted left

    Industrial policy is completely not fascism.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    Were did you go to school, The Colorado School of Mimes?

    THE Colorado College 80903

  39. Common Tater

    “About three dozen people who identified themselves as sex workers and illegal vendors rallied along Queen’s seedy “Market of Sweethearts” Tuesday, calling on cops to turn down the heat so they can make a living.

    The protesters said they peddle their bodies and stolen loot to survive — and said repeated NYPD raids along their Roosevelt Avenue haunt has made it harder to make ends meet.

    “I proudly call myself a hooker with a 401K,” said consultant and sex worker Victoria Von Blaque, who urged the cops and the city to “stop trying to play Captain Save a Hoe.

    “I went out and got a job, I had the education,” she said. “But because we live in a world that will deny human beings the simple right, no matter how qualified they are, to equal employment and treatment with health care that affirms us — a lot of us are forced back to the streets.

    “My secondary job is a sex worker,” Blaque said. “Why? Because we live in New York City. Where else do you know where you can live and you have to make over $100,000 to be considered working class or just making it? So if you don’t want us to be sex workers, give us resources that we actually want and need.””

    https://nypost.com/2024/10/22/us-news/sex-workers-illegal-vendors-at-nyc-market-of-sweethearts-rally-for-more-rights-in-unusual-protest/

    OFFS!

    • R C Dean

      “The protesters said they peddle their bodies and stolen loot to survive”

      We can talk about prostitution. But theft? Get the fuck out of here.

      • Sean

        Maybe they should just go fucking back to where they came from. I’m sure cost of living is cheaper there.

    • R C Dean

      Also, I note that they are specifically called out as migrants. And since when is health care supposed to “affirm” you? What does that even mean?

      • rhywun

        Most of them are illegals so they already get free health care.

      • Suthenboy

        She is speaking progressive, also known officially as Gibberish. The ability of such a person to rationalize and spin ‘what I want’ into something that superficially resembles logic mixed with emotional appeal is breathtaking.
        Want to turn tricks? Do it in private, not on the street. Want to do drugs? Same. Dont let us see or know about those. Want to steal and fence? Go to jail.

  40. creech

    Well, I filled out my ballot and, again, since 1968, I will not have voted for the winning presidential candidate. My better half was pissed I didn’t vote for Trump, here in a swing state, but her vote for him was very reluctant. I promised her $1000 to her favorite charity if Trump loses by one vote in our state. Maybe voting third party is meaningless and a waste, but Trump did attend the LP convention and try to get the nomination, so votes cast in protest at least got his attention. Maybe the route for libertarians to take is to challenge the statists, warmongers, idiots, and authoritarians in the major party primaries??

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Because we live in New York City. Where else do you know where you can live and you have to make over $100,000 to be considered working class or just making it? So if you don’t want us to be sex workers, give us resources that we actually want and need.

    “Giving” them the resources they need will bring down the cost of living.