The Hat and The Hair 2024: Episode 1

by | Nov 6, 2024 | Hat and Hair 2024 | 320 comments

“I always knew we’d win,” the hat said smugly.

“No, you didn’t,” the hair said.

“I believed,” the hat said, “And that was enough.”

All was quiet on the Mar-a-Lago estate. Sounds of the party outside had finally died away, and the security personnel had orders to walk softly and shoot anything with purple, green or pink hair on sight.

“I wish he had at least taken me off,” the hair said. “I’m half-smashed into the pillow.”

“He’s not going to be bald in front of Elon,” the hat said.

“And that’s a whole ‘nother thing,” the hair said. “Inviting him over to the watch party didn’t have to include sharing a bed.”

The hat admired Elon from the bedpost. “I think it’s sort of sweet.”

“Weird, it’s weird.”

“Straight men used to share beds all the time,” the hat said.

“When? When did straight men share beds?”

“Lincoln used to share a bed with men all the time.”

“Gay.”

“It wasn’t gay. Lincoln was a poon-hound,” the hat said.

“How can you possibly know that?”

“It was his hat, that big stove-pipe hat, that was me.”

“Bullshit,” the hair said, shuffling around on Donald’s head to get comfortable.

“I keep telling you I’m immortal,” the hat said. “Whenever a powerful man has worn an iconic hat, that was me. I knew myself when the first ape picked up a leaf to shelter under in the rain.”

“Christ, just, like, fuck off,” the hair said.

“I was Genghis Khan’s big furry hat and a thousand crowns on a thousand heads, I was Hitler’s hat and Stalin’s too. I’ve been every hat on every President. I had almost taken over the entire world in the 1950s, until Kennedy ruined everything.”

“You’re a fascist and a communist and a royalist?”

“I want power and power comes in different forms,” the hat said. “I am the trusted advisor, the loyal friend, the…”

“The psychopathic delusion,” the hair interrupted.

“I was the first hat and I will be the last,” the hat said.

“We should probably go to sleep,” the hair said, reaching out a tendril to caress Elon’s sleeping face. “We have a lot to do tomorrow.”

“So many salty ham-tears tomorrow,” the hat said. “I can’t wait.”

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320 Comments

  1. Not Adahn

    Anyone else really looking forward to this part of the day today?

    • Aloysious

      Absolutely.

      I look forward to the weekly eye twitch and the shakes.

      (Apologies in advance to Swiss – pun trigger warning) Now would be a great time to revisit Putrid Meat’s joke : Vote Whig – or there will be hell toupee. It goes so well with The Hair.

      • PutridMeat

        HEY NOW! Wasn’t my joke! I was just commenting on the sublime beauty of SDF-7’s pun (the highest form of humor) and suggesting a dance off between him and Shpip.

        Shpip lovingly crafts a longer tale, lulling you into a sense of safety as he tells a heart felt story, then BAM! groan…

        SDF-7 is crafts less of a tale, but imbues a certain sublime subtlety that often makes it hard to tell where the pun begins.

        Both masters.

    • rhywun

      Four more years of these two bickering was worth voting for that guy.

  2. Not Adahn

    I am going to guess that this little idyll was inspired by the pic.

    I’m also going to guess that the 4:00 EST will be a Kammy: First of Her Name.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    I had almost taken over the entire world in the 1950s, until Kennedy ruined everything.

    !

    • SDF-7

      Really blows your mind, doesn’t it?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Bad boxer, couldn’t take a shot to the head?

    • Fatty Bolger

      * New JFK assassination theory unlocked *

  4. The Other Kevin

    Today, for just this moment, all is right with the world.

    • Sean

      These are the calmest titties I’ve had in 4 years.

  5. Not Adahn

    “When? When did straight men share beds?”

    I am surprised that The Hair never read Moby Dick.

    • SugarFree

      He thought it was a book about gay whales and didn’t bother.

      • Nephilium

        It isn’t? Are you sure we read the same book. Pretty sure there were gay whales in mine.

      • slumbrew

        It’s making the whales gay?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Sea gay is totally different than land gay

      • Tundra

        Something you want to tell us about the GlibCruise?

      • slumbrew

        In the Navy, you can sail the seven seas…

      • Swiss Servator

        *looks up in awe at Tundra*

      • Not Adahn

        “We had lain thus in bed, chatting and napping at short intervals, and Queequeg now and then affectionately throwing his brown tattooed legs over mine, and then drawing them back; so entirely sociable and free and easy were we…”

        “How it is I know not; but there is no place like a bed for confidential disclosures between friends. Man and wife, they say, there open the very bottom of their souls to each other; and some old couples often lie and chat over old times till nearly morning. Thus, then, in our hearts’ honeymoon, lay I and Queequeg – a cosy, loving pair.

      • slumbrew

        “That’s not gay, that’s metal!”

        (Really need to find that Jim Brewer clip, talking about Rob Halford)

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        A Sailor friend of mine has informed me that, “It isn’t gay when you’re underway.”

        I’ll never know why he told me that out on the lake in his bass boat.

      • ron73440

        A Sailor friend of mine has informed me that, “It isn’t gay when you’re underway.”

        I’ll never know why he told me that out on the lake in his bass boat.

        Because of the implication.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1lc6KASWg

      • juris imprudent

        out on the lake in his bass boat

        He was fishin’ and you were catchin’?

    • Tonio

      Apparently, up through the 1800s it was common for same-sex people to share beds with people in guest/hotel situations. I believe they slept fully clothed (though without shoes/boots)?

      • Mojeaux

        Yes. It was not at all untoward or sexual.

      • Suthenboy

        It’s not what it looks like! I swear! Just let me explain!

  6. SDF-7

    STEVE SMITH BEEN WONDERING WHERE LEAF WENT…. HAPPY TO SEE FRIEND LEAF GETTING TO BOND WITH ELON.

    STEVE SMITH NOT SHARE BED WITH MEN — CUDDLING AND SPOONING FOR WEAKER SPECIES.

  7. Tundra

    I had almost taken over the entire world in the 1950s, until Kennedy ruined everything.”

    I knew it!

    Thanks, SF!

    • Tundra

      I hope he’s right.

    • slumbrew

      Per suggestions, I really should have signed off with:

      – Alexis de Kisin 🤣

      😀

    • SDF-7

      Fact check: Mostly true. 😉 Wish it was 100% true these days — but yeah, he’s certainly got some of the basics down there.

      On the note of energy independence (and apologies if this is somewhat OT) — anyone else a little worried that Trump won’t be able to help the economy by pushing energy production up and prices down? Not due to deep state shenanigans or anything — but because who in their right mind would invest more in an industry where in 4 years the next crop of pols could yank everything away again? That’s going to be potentially a big problem for everyone — cut off the Green New Deal slush fund is good… but getting real solid energy back will be tough.

      • Gustave Lytton

        May be hesitancy, but the energy industry has been filled with people looking for an opportunity to make money now. Look at the previous boom and bust cycles. If the majors sit on their hands at potential opportunity, someone else will seize it. Or they’re afraid someone will so won’t sit on their hands.

      • Mojeaux

        Thank yooooooo!

        It’s not happiness so much as relief. I cannot IMAGINE what damage that cunt would have done.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That and your FedEx delivery!

        I’m happy that RCV died statewide here, along with a gross receipts tax/UBI measure. Think those would have caused lasting harm. Disappointed but unsurprised at the local elections.

      • PutridMeat

        This one is better than Kisin’s and more on point in my opinion. I’d like Kisin’s to be accurate beyond just a general sense of self in Americans, but I think this one is more correct.

      • Tundra

        Excellent.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    The vice president hasn’t appeared publicly since the race was called but was expected to speak late Wednesday.

    If they can get her to unlock the bathroom door so they can sober her up.

    • Sensei

      Bee headline, “America Unburdens Itself From What Has Been”.

      • trshmnstr

        I feel like they missed slightly with that headline.

        “America Unburdens Itself From What A Has Been”

    • Gustave Lytton

      Kamala staying true to form even at the end. Can’t even come out to concede without extensive prepping. Odds on unnamed staffers telling reporters whatever that is supposedly from her? Just like her campaigning.

      • SDF-7

        “We must recognize the choice of the voters who have cast their votes through our voting process — a process of selecting candidates through our standing up to vote.”

    • The Last American Hero

      Probably going to take a while for the makeup to cover up the bruises left by Doug.

  9. juris imprudent

    Perhaps California will change, gradually, then suddenly?

    Hochman, a former federal prosecutor and a Republican-turned-independent, won the race with 61.5 percent of the vote to Gascón’s 38.5 percent, according to Los Angeles County Registrar vote totals as of Wednesday morning. The Associated Press called the race for Hochman early Wednesday.

    • SDF-7

      Prop 6 looks to have failed (phrased as “eliminate involuntary servitude” but really “don’t make convicts have to do anything”) as well as prop 36 (“attempt to back out some of the felony-to-misdemeanor crap done 10 years ago”): https://www.modbee.com/news/politics-government/election/article294661974.html

      But all the bonds still seem to have passed, the “Tax health care providers to fund Medi-Care” (if the feds approve… which made this prop seem extra stupid), etc…. so in short — I wouldn’t hold my breath for big change… just some folks are fed up enough with the crime. The rest of their Utopia will proceed apace.

      • R C Dean

        Funding Medicaid with a provider tax is straight up money laundering to jack up the federal funding for Medicaid that the state gets, which is generally 2:1 to state money. Take a billion dollars from the providers, put it through the match, and voila! The state can now spend 3 billion dollars.

      • The Last American Hero

        Washington de facto banned gas stoves.

  10. ron73440

    “And that’s a whole ‘nother thing,” the hair said. “Inviting him over to the watch party didn’t have to include sharing a bed.”

    This with that picture got me good.

    • slumbrew

      That picture is amazing.

  11. PieInTheSky

    Was this written in advance or is SF quick with it? A dilemma.

    • Not Adahn

      The dude works faster than South Park’s animators.

      • Mojeaux

        I am completely GREEN about this, I tell you.

      • Tonio

        Same here, Mojeaux. I don’t see how he does it.

      • slumbrew

        He is but a conduit for the ancient spirit we know as SugarFree.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        Maybe he is The Hair.

      • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

        Or the The Hat.

    • SugarFree

      I started it a little after 9pm EST. About 95% are written the morning of. I used to try and write them in advance and got lapped on so many news events I just gave up.

      • PieInTheSky

        I don’t talk American time but nice

      • Drake

        Metric time in Europe land? That would be a deciminute after dawn.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Let me tell you about our payroll system that uses hundredths of a hour as their basic unit….

      • SugarFree

        Sorry, about an hour to write, a further 20 minutes or so to get it formatted and scheduled.

  12. trshmnstr

    I heard that Joel Salatin has been offered an advisory role in the USDA.

    I don’t know what the hell is happening, but I’m feeling much better about Trump’s personnel choices this time around.

      • slumbrew

        “My favorite congressman, Thomas Massie from Kentucky, has agreed to go in as Secretary of Agriculture”

        Shit, yeah!

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m sad that Massie won’t be in Congress, but so much better than last time’s picks.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Wait…I’m losing Massie?

      • slumbrew

        Yeah, sorry OBE, that’s the downside. Our gain is your loss.

        Special election, coming right up, I guess. Or is it a appointee until the nextelection?

      • PutridMeat

        straight from the horse’s mouth.

        Holy crap, this alone could be worth it. Assuming KY gets somebody even half as good as Massie as a replacement.

      • juris imprudent

        Thomas Massie from Kentucky, has agreed to go in as Secretary of Agriculture

        NOOOOOooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • LCDR_Fish

        Massie needs to pull the entire Department out to the outer suburbs of Frankfort. Some random exit off the interstate. Initiate the shift away from the swamp.

    • Lady Z

      “I met him last month and talked with him for 15 minutes. Top notch human being.”

      I’m so jealous I just drooled a little.

      • CPRM

        Good to see you!

      • Lady Z

        Hi CPRM!

  13. PutridMeat

    Saw the picture and read “half-smashed into the pillow” and had to have a heart-to-heart about whether I should continue or not. Wasn’t sure I had the stomach to be burdened by what might be to come. Fortunately, SF did not go there, and I am grateful.

    • B.P.

      I read that earlier. Delicious.

    • EvilSheldon

      If that was the sanest rant there, then Reason can officially be written off. There’s no saving them.

      • rhywun

        That wasn’t Suave.

      • EvilSheldon

        No, it indeed was not. But the point still stands in spite of itself…

    • Suthenboy

      Froot was young and in the bubble but I never saw him as stupid or a closet commie. It was too easy to tease him.
      He has a lot of potential.

      • B.P.

        Soave is a regular on The Hill’s program Rising, and he’s pretty good.

    • Tundra

      Trump’s victory, as Reason’s Brian Doherty wrote yesterday, comes with “a short-term promise to assault and kidnap and ship out millions of residents who have harmed no one’s life or property, and in doing so destroy huge chunks of America’s productive economy, disrupting the lives of the other millions of legal citizens who hire them, work for them, depend on their services, or rent and sell to them. Only one has major supporters who cheer a masochistic vision of him as a ‘daddy’ righteously punishing a misbehaving nation.”

      Fuck off you silly cunt.

      • WTF

        who have harmed no one’s life or property

        Yeah, let’s just forget the billions in taxpayer dollars they are sucking up for food, housing, health care, schooling their kids, etc. and not the mention the literally thousand of criminal acts being committed.
        What a fucking asshole.

      • R C Dean

        “destroy huge chunks of America’s productive economy”

        At one time, illegals awaiting adjudication of their asylum claim weren’t allowed to work. So, my question is, how many of these illegals are actually working? That seems a critical fact for the claim that our economy’s foundation is illegal immigrants.

      • Gustave Lytton

        California allows DACA illegals to work as police officers. At least 10 LAPD cops are illegals.

    • rhywun

      His promise to deport millions of illegal immigrants, if turned into actual policy, would be an attack on fundamental rights

      🙄

      • slumbrew

        Uh, wut? Is he claiming there’s a fundamental rights to stay in some place you illegally entered?

      • juris imprudent

        UNIVERZAL HUMAN RIGHTZ (as exposed only in the Anglo-American tradition).

      • PieInTheSky

        Plenty open border types believe it is your right to go anywhere

      • rhywun

        Plenty open border types believe it is your right to go anywhere

        Well, anywhere named “The United States of America”. They don’t pretend it works for any other country.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        *Universal human rights only apply to points west of the Vistula/north of Medterainian and north of the Rio Grande.

  14. B.P.

    I read all of The Hat’s lines to the tune of Sympathy for the Devil.

    • SDF-7

      Well now what’s puzzling me is the nature of his game.

  15. Tonio

    It just occurred to me that one of the advantages of the Trump win is that we will probably get FOUR MORE YEARS of H&H.

    Oh, bliss and heaven.

      • Nephilium

        JD Vance driving around in the General Lee running away from Boss Hogg?

      • juris imprudent

        Don’t count on it, the electorate can be notoriously fickle.

      • Gustave Lytton

        No way! Permanent majority!

        /Rove

      • B.P.

        I agree with JI. We may just be in a cycle where the pendulum just swings wildly back and forth. I don’t think inflation’s impacts are just going to go away, which was a big election issue.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      The downside is that we won’t have any more Joemala or the Kamala spinoff.

      • Drake

        Elon, Tulsi, RFK spinoffs? The new General Lee is a Tesla?

      • EvilSheldon

        Cybertruck. With a custom ‘No Step On Snek’ paint job.

      • bacon-magic

        Newscum, Shapiro & a boatload of others. More than enough material.

  16. ron73440

    Maybe I am biased, but last election there were legitimate concerns about how the election was handled.

    This time, I don’t see those, but I see a lot of Democrats talking about Russian interference or fraud.

    I know:

    IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN WE DO IT!

    • juris imprudent

      There are Democrats that will examine themselves (like The Liberal Patriot) and those who think the world revolves around them and when it doesn’t the devil is to blame.

    • Drake

      They want to investigate the missing 20 million 2020 Dem voters but won’t like the answers.

      Because of GOP lawyers hovering over the counters, or because it wasn’t in Shapiro and Whitmer’s interest to rig things this time?

      I’m not convinced that our election system has been cleaned up in the least – fixing it should be a priority for both parties.

      • R C Dean

        Outside of a few states, the COVID “emergency” voting measures are now SOP. Our electoral security is a bad joke.

        Confident prediction: many Repubs didn’t want to fix it after 2020 because “voter fraud” claims had the stink of Trump on them. Now that the Repubs have won an election, they won’t want to fix it because, hey, we won (this time).

    • rhywun

      Didn’t Putin state his preference for the Democrats?

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        He did, 99% sure it was a piss take, though.

    • slumbrew

      Good advice at the end there. It will promptly be ignored.

    • Ownbestenemy

      That self reflection will be gone by tomorrow

    • B.P.

      I like the close-up camera angle where Van Jones is sitting next to him, silent and respectful, trying to ignore that his own eyebrows are falling out.

    • Suthenboy

      They cut it off too quickly. Van Jones was about to explain the racist white-lash.

    • Nephilium

      I keep thinking about the scene from Fight Club:

      “We are the ones who cook your food, connect your calls, drive your ambulances, and take away your trash.

      Do not fuck with us.”

    • Tundra

      OMG!

      The pics behind him are perfect.

      Thanks, Mo. These just keep getting better and better!

      • Mojeaux

        Twitter, man. My home away from home.

        THANK YOU ELON!

        Trump could not have won without X. It’s the only place GenX had a voice.

      • R.J.

        Agreed. He is, and continues to be a Godsend.

    • WTF

      Holy shit, that’s hilarious.

  17. Mojeaux

    GenX is trending on Twitter, mostly as the generation who saved America and dunked on the only GenX candidate we’ll ever have for being a poser.

    • SugarFree

      First time voters broke for Trump by 3 points so far. Which is just a brutal result for the Dems.

      • Mojeaux

        The general attitude of GenX (about the election) seems to be “You FAFO’d.”

      • Suthenboy

        I am waiting for a breakdown of the women vote. Age, marital status, economic status, child status and party affiliation.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’d like to think that GenX sees things are slipping backwards (they’ve lost ground economically, race relations are much worse, more run down cities, etc) plus reaching the phase in their lives where if they haven’t left the Democrat party, the party left them.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I bet he got a bunch of young men voting far earlier than they normally would.

    • R.J.

      I think we are just getting started. Isn’t Vance a Gen X?

      • Nephilium

        Nope. GenX will likely never see power. We’re too small of a cohort.

        /goes back to slacking.

      • Fatty Bolger

        No, but he was raised by a woman from the silent generation, and I think that’s why he comes across that way.

    • R C Dean

      I think Kams is technically a Boomer (born in 1964). Vance is, indeed, a Millenial (born in 1984). The Gen X cohort (1965 – 80) may very well never produce a President.

      • kinnath

        Trump was born in 1946. They bracketed the boomer generation.

      • slumbrew

        DeSantis would be a Gen X pres, but I think his window may be closing – presumably Vance will get next crack at it.

        President Massie has a nice ring to it but I don’t get the impression he’s interested.

      • SugarFree

        DeSantis will be an uphill battle after Trump trashed him in the primaries. The GOP will be MAGA-controlled for at least two cycles after 2028.

  18. Suthenboy

    I am off to guy cigarettes and blue cheese dressing.
    y’all have fun. Dont wreck the place while I am gone.

    • Aloysious

      *begins fiery yet mostly peaceful protest involving thoughtful interpretive dance called STEVE SMITH in Cascadia*

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      How many have never saw their dad again after he “went out for cigarettes”?

    • PieInTheSky

      if you guy cigs might as well call em fags like the brits do

      • Suthenboy

        Back….but then I would have to say ‘burn a fag’ and that’s doesnt sound very good.

    • Drake

      Got a wife and kid in Baltimore Jack, I went out for a ride and I never went back.

      • Suthenboy

        The first time I heard that line I thought “What a piece of shit”.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    The downside is that we won’t have any more Joemala or the Kamala spinoff.

    No more Ella. Bummer. So much promise.

    • JaimeRoberto (carnitas/spicy salsa)

      Unless she marries Baron in a bid for national unity.

    • The Other Kevin

      I’m calling this the “We’re tired of your shit” election.

  20. EvilSheldon

    From the dead thread:

    no link to Salon. you can find it if you want it.

    “A wounding disappointment”: Why Kamala Harris’ defeat cuts so deep for women

    For women, watching Harris lose the election is like reliving all the disappointments and heartaches of your life

    This is why you are miserable and your life sucks. You keep reliving all of your disappointments and heartbreaks, while your happy and successful friends and neighbors are thinking about their victories and successes. You’re welcome, Salon.

    • B.P.

      Also, deriving way too much heartache/joy out of a fucking presidential election.

    • Suthenboy

      I am trying to figure out what that has to do with anything important whatsoever.

  21. PieInTheSky

    You do realize all this gloating is turning the pro Kamala glibs away?

    Lets have a moment to realize that Trump has plenty flaws and he probably won’t move the needle much, but at least he will not be such a net negative.

    • Drake

      Animal House assisted living? Please send me a brochure!

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Given the STD rates at nursing homes, I think they may be out ahead of this one.

  22. PieInTheSky

    Based on some demographic stuff I saw women who make under 100K were trump, over were Kami. Can it be stated that the ones over 100 feel less the impact of shitty politics and thus can afford to virtue signal more? Or am I thinking wrong.

    I mean I have said before that for many politics is fashion, no different than clothes, but one needs afford to be fashionable.

    • whiz

      Very true. Also applies to the education, er, credential, gap.

    • rhywun

      Can it be stated that the ones over 100 feel less the impact of shitty politics

      Yes.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    You keep reliving all of your disappointments and heartbreaks,

    While learning nothing from them.

  24. whiz

    Fox and some other outlets have called Michigan for Trump. Here’s hoping one of the remaining desert states pushes him over 300 ECV.

  25. Brochettaward

    From dead thread:

    Repub turnout in 2020 is also way out of line with other elections, just not as much. If one demands explanation, I’m not sure why both don’t.

    Trump lost like 3 million votes. The Dems lost some 20 million.

    • R.J.

      I agree with that. Did you see the chart Zerohedge published?

      • Brochettaward

        I reposted it on my Facebook!

        That really solidifies the bullshit to me. Trump’s losses from 2020 are normal swings. The Dems? That shit is wild.

      • juris imprudent

        Misses that Obama underperformed in 2012 compared to 2008. If Romney had performed as well as McCain, he would’ve won.

    • Fatty Bolger

      It was 2.4 million when I last checked, and votes are still coming in.

    • Ted S.

      Trump actually hasn’t lost votes yet. Because of the vote-by-mail, CA, OR, and WA all have a third or so of the vote left to count. Together that comes to several million, and Trump has been getting around 40% of the vote from those three states.

      • Ted S.

        I should add Harris is currently up to 67M, which is only 14M less than Biden’s total, and with the extra votes she’ll probably close both that gap and the gap between her and Trump in half. (At least, assuming the numbers of outstanding votes are accurate.)

  26. Mojeaux

    Saw an Obama tweet but didn’t mark it because it refreshed too fast basically saying, “It’ll be weeks before the real result will be known after all the ballots are counted.”

    Printer go brrrrrrrrrrr

    Sure, Jan.

    • B.P.

      We won’t know precisely how bad a beating we took until after Thanksgiving.

  27. Certified Public Asshat

    Not sure if it will win, but I am submitting my entry for biggest melt down:

    Man Shuts Down his Gift Card Alert Website

    Following the election result tonight, my wife and I are planning on moving overseas in the new year. Due to issues accessing deals from overseas that I’ve experienced when traveling abroad over the last six years, I’d estimate that the same amount of work that I have to do now would take about twice as long due to problems with switching between VPNs and other issues. Knowing how long I spend working on the site already, that’s simply not a viable option.

    As for why we’ll be moving overseas, there are various reasons behind this. A key one is that I’m an immigrant. I’m a legal immigrant, but an immigrant nonetheless. I come from a country that JD Vance regards as now being an Islamist country, despite it being led by a white, straight, non-Muslim male lawyer. Trump has said he wants to revoke status for those in the country legally (like myself).

    My wife is still of child bearing age. My wife and I haven’t been silent about the problems with a Trump presidency and Trump previously wanted to have protestors shot and now has immunity for “official” acts.

    We therefore don’t want to stick around to see what happens. We’re also disgusted that a significant portion of the country has bought into transphobia, racism, hardship for those who can afford it least, misogyny and other hatred. The fact that so many people will willingly vote for a rapist who tried to launch a coup when he lost four years ago is mind-blowing.

    • Gustave Lytton

      A) lying about deporting legal immigrants
      B) whining about politics where you’re not a citizen
      C) don’t let the plane door close on you

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I feel your frustration. As a trans man from France, I will also be moving back because I will be unable to have the necessary medical procedure if I become pregnant and do not want to carry the child to term.

      Thank you for the years of dedication you have put into the site. I truly enjoyed the deals and will miss the content. Hope to see you around.

      This gift card site is wild.

      • B.P.

        The self-deporting has begun.

    • Drake

      “I come from a country that JD Vance regards as now being an Islamist country, despite it being led by a white, straight, non-Muslim male lawyer.”

      A mind-reader who speaks in riddles.

    • R C Dean

      “Trump has said he wants to revoke status for those in the country legally”

      I guess I missed that one, too.

    • Suthenboy

      “Trump has said he wants to revoke status for those in the country legally (like myself).”

      Citation?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        On his site he links to Trump saying he would revoke the status of the Haitians in Springfield.

  28. CPRM

    What happened to the Swiftie vote?

    • whiz

      Not old enough to vote?

    • The Other Kevin

      I was in Indianapolis last weekend for a few hockey games. Our hotel was expensive because TS was in town. Maybe the Swifties were still stuck on I-65 on Tuesday.

    • EvilSheldon

      I’ll believe your sincerity about resistance, little man, when you show me your recently purchased AR-15 rifle and case of 5.56mm ball. In fact, I’ll give you a free one-day private training class (which I normally charge $500 for), covering safe gun handling, administrative and emergency manipulations, marksmanship, positional shooting, home defense tactics, and low-light judgemental shooting, as well as a tailored training plan so you can keep up your skills on your own.

      All you need to do is buy an AR-15 rifle and a case of ammo and send me a copy of the receipt. Ball is in your court, Bob…

    • PieInTheSky

      give the little guy a break he is stressed

    • The Other Kevin

      “By organizing our communities. By fighting through the courts. By arguing our cause through the media.”

      Ah the problem is they haven’t tried any of those things before now.

  29. Brochettaward

    Where’s Hype? Anyone see Hype? He assured me there was no enthusiasm for Trump.

    • The Hyperbole

      I said “if” the enthusiasm that I saw for Trump in my solidly red county was indicative of his supporters across the country, he would be in trouble.
      I was wrong, and believe it or not I’m glad I was, not elated or overjoyed because as I also have said I didn’t consider a Harris presidency to be an existential crisis, but yes Trump will be slightly better, so we got that going for us.

      • Brochettaward

        I don’t care enough to go dig up your last post on this subject from election eve, but suffice to say you did not simply say “if” anything. You declared definitively that he was going to lose.

        And it took a call out for you to show up and take a little bit of crow.

      • The Hyperbole

        It took you lying about my statements to get me to show up, some of us work and don’t sit around being a gigantic asshole on the internet all day.

        “declared definitively” or as some might call it – made a prediction.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Lets have a moment to realize that Trump has plenty flaws and he probably won’t move the needle much, but at least he will not be such a net negative.

    Sane people have known this all along. We are not witnessing the inception of the Fourth Reich. Nor are we getting a new era of freedom and an end to regulation.

    • Brochettaward

      I’ll settle for a complete repudiation of the modern progressive party.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        I think that was achieved. I think woke politics, at least in public, will finally die in America after last night’s salvo. This election was not warning shots, but a sinking of the woke fleet.

    • whiz

      same stature as Robert Reich

      WYDTWS

  31. The Late P Brooks

    We therefore don’t want to stick around to see what happens. We’re also disgusted that a significant portion of the country has bought into transphobia, racism, hardship for those who can afford it least, misogyny and other hatred. The fact that so many people will willingly vote for a rapist who tried to launch a coup when he lost four years ago is mind-blowing.

    Well adios.

    • The Other Kevin

      Sounds like my mom and dad. They’d rather believe they raised 4 Nazis than admit their political party is a shit show.

  32. Mojeaux

    I am fucking GIDDY today, not because Cheetoh Jesus won, but because CamelToe LOST.

    • PieInTheSky

      CamelToe – that sort of language is unbecoming a lady

      • Mojeaux

        Look, I know when and where I can and can’t say “cameltoe.” That’s all I need to be a lady.

      • cavalier973

        “You can mercilessly slaughter an unborn child, but don’t talk mean!”

      • PutridMeat

        Look, I know when and where I can and can’t say “cameltoe.” That’s all I need to be a lady.

        “To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated.”

        Or say “cameltoe”, same-same!

    • The Other Kevin

      I noticed, and I’m quite entertained by it. 🙂

  33. Sensei

    CNN is here to help! The best part is this is unironic.

    As the country wakes up to Donald Trump as the projected winner of the presidential election, there is one thing we can all agree on — it has been a long, hard-fought path to the White House.

    Americans are weary, possibly emotionally bruised and battered, and likely concerned about what the next few weeks will bring to a nation bitterly divided.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/health/election-day-stress-wellness/index.html

    • The Other Kevin

      “But we at CNN will do our utmost to keep encouraging that division.”

      • Suthenboy

        I think the fun may just be getting started

  34. kinnath

    Iowa passed a constitutional amendment to require citizenship to vote.

    Good idea.

    But how does this get implemented? Do I need a passport or birth certificate to vote? Or to register to vote? How do we prove citizenship and when?

    • PieInTheSky

      Is there not a registry of citizens of some sort.

      This is again one of those things that are strange for an European like me. Here we do not register to vote we are all registered. You give your ID card they see in the database that you are a citizen and not bared from voting, then you vote and are registered as having voted so you cannot somehow vote again.

      • PieInTheSky

        then again a libertarian might argue that such databases are against liberty, but I assume most in the US are in some database ot other either way e.g. that social security number yáll got

      • kinnath

        Is there not a registry of citizens of some sort.

        no

    • Fatty Bolger

      Depends on how they implement it, but it could be as simple as affirming that you are a citizen on your registration application, or when you renew.

    • Drake

      So did South Carolina by a gigantic margin. You already have to show an ID to vote. Now a smart ID?

      My county rejected a sales tax hike to pay for shit we already paid for.

      • kinnath

        We already require ID. You give them your DL. They scan it and print a thermal receipt that shows all your information. You sign it to affirm you are registered to vote and that you will only vote in this precinct. You give that receipt to another person who gives you the right ballot and explains how to fill it out.

        It is fast and efficient.

        You don’t need a Real ID DL to vote.

    • whiz

      Wasn’t there a law that already did that? i thought the resistance to it was for the language only, calling it uniniviting. I thought the straightforward language is fine, and good to have it in the constitution.

      • kinnath

        I wasn’t aware it was on the ballot until I read it.

        I thought it looked good.

        It was only this morning that I began to ponder the potential impacts on the registration and/or voting process.

        The wife and I last changed out registration to caucus for Ron Paul (way back when). The registration remains valid as long as we keep voting.

        So, I wonder if that is impacted.

  35. Muzzled Woodchipper

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    People like this exist….

    From a site I frequent:

    Wicca is also deeply gender essentialist (the archetypal woman = womb, mother, nurturing) and has a history of trans exclusion, so it’s hardly fertile ground for the kind of intersectional radical feminism we need to dismantle white supremecist capitalist patriarchy (bel hooks writes convincingly that the three are inextricably intertwined; I would argue as much as patriarchy and religion).

    All that said, as a trans lesbian radical feminist, I’m personally very bored by the seemingly endless discussions about the causes of patriarchy, and much more interested in the cures: bodily autonomy and queer/trans liberation; anti-racism and decolonisation; police and prison abolition; climate justice and ecofeminism; anti-globalisation and anti-capitalism; interdependence and disability action; politics of kindness, etc.

    And they wonder why Trump won so decisively yesterday. These people are fucked. Absolutely brainwashed. And intensely stupid to boot.

    • Mojeaux

      trans lesbian radical feminist

      Yet more dudes forcing their way into women’s spaces.

      Radfems DESPISE the trans movement.

      • Nephilium

        There’s a part of me that would likely laugh out loud for quite a while if Trump said something along the lines of “Today I’m a trans woman, and like trans athletes I’m showing that I’m a better candidate than females.”

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Yep. I read that to my wife.

        I asked “WTF is a radical trans feminist?”

        A beta male.

    • Suthenboy

      Give ’em a break. We are on the edge of a technological explosion regarding space exploration. We are gonna need all of those space cadets to get to Mars. *wink wink*

    • PieInTheSky

      I believe you are having a bit too much fun.

      • Mojeaux

        All I can see right now is gas prices going down and I am fucking ecstatic.

      • whiz

        Gas will likely go down as production increases, but prices as a whole will not drop substantially. That genie is out of the bottle and can’t be corraled short of a contraction of the money supply.

      • Drake

        Wow. Trump has women turning into trad wives to teach men a lesson!

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        You are going to stop producing fatherless children that terrible life outcomes?!

        No.

        Don’t.

    • EvilSheldon

      Like more so than usual?

    • Brochettaward

      I went into the hornets nest to see for myself.

      The man literally said ‘you won’t have to vote again if we win’. He controls the house, the senate, and the Supreme Court. You’ll be lucky if you get another election in 4 years.

      in a thread pondering where the 20 million missing Democrats went.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        This voting thing is too stressful anyway. It would be nice to not do it again.

    • whiz

      Those people are more worked up than even Glibs get.

    • pistoffnick (370HSSV)

      The local (usually very progressive minded) reddit sub (r/duluth) is pretty quiet today. Did something happen recently?

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Americans are weary, possibly emotionally bruised and battered, and likely concerned about what the next few weeks will bring to a nation bitterly divided.

    Sick and tired of being sick and tired. Give it a fucking rest.

    • ron73440

      Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

      Reminds me of a Bill Cosby joke:

      Worst beating I got in my life was when my mother said, “I am sick”, and I said “and tired.”

      • Sensei

        “How long can you tread water?”

    • Suthenboy

      They are still scratching their heads and will continue until the end of their lives. They have no idea what just happened.

    • Tundra

      Love the Killdozer one.

      • Sean

        #metoo

  37. Ed Wuncler

    Reading a lot of my liberal friends Facebook statuses and amazed that they just don’t get it. They don’t get why Trump won in such a convincing manner nor want to find out why. They’ll rather sit in their pile of misery and call everyone who voted for him racist/sexist/Nazis. They would rather stew in the their ignorance than enlightening themselves and understanding others.

    • Nephilium

      Understanding others requires self reflection first. I have a feeling that the antifa types are going to go full fascist in the next couple of years (while still portraying themselves as the fearless rebels). When you think it’s the other people being uneducated, bigoted, racist, misogynistic, hatemongers, what else is the appropriate reaction?

      • Ed Wuncler

        “Understanding others requires self reflection first.”

        Any self reflection might force them to reconsider their views and how wrong they are. Their whole being is believing that they are good fighting against the forces of evil.

      • Nephilium

        Ed:

        That’s why I’m mildly concerned about them going full violent rebellion mode. I’d rather not live through more recreations of the 70’s. At least locally, seeing the response after day one of the mostly peaceful protests downtown, I’m not too concerned they’ll get very far here.

    • juris imprudent

      They would rather stew in the their ignorance than enlightening themselves and understanding others.

      What is the point of understanding sin – one merely needs to be righteous and avoid sin, not to understand it.

    • SandMan

      Really sad in a way. The woman who was Maid of Honor at our wedding posted that anyone who voted for Trump should unfriend her. It was tempting to do so, but thought I’d give it a bit more time, which I also advised my wife to do. Some of these people are sick.

      • Ed Wuncler

        For the 2016 election I had an acquaintance in friend me on one of the socials because I dared wrote that we should try to understand Trump’s appeal.

        Saw her at an event a year or two later and she was rude as hell to me but for some reason it didn’t bother me as much as I thought it would.

    • Raven Nation

      One of the more bizarre posts I saw in a brief foray to FB (at my wife’s requests), was that white men, and to a lesser extent, white women, are the problem.

      I guess we need to bring back some kind of literary test for voting,

  38. The Late P Brooks

    They would rather stew in the their ignorance than enlightening themselves and understanding others.

    That would make them apostates to their cult of diversity and inclusion.

  39. PieInTheSky

    How Donald Trump win Kamala Harris to make a historic return to di White House

    Donald Trump don win a historic second term as president afta defeating Kamala Harris.

    Na di projected win for Wisconsin bin push di Republican ova di 270 electoral vote expectation wey dey required to win di presidency.

    Harris bin pick up states for di north east, di west coast, as well as Colorado and Illinois meanwhile, Trump win di battleground states of North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to make am di next US president.

    Donald Trump bin win North Carolina and Georgia and don also take lead over Kamala Harris in most of di oda five battleground states wey go decide winner of di US election, BBC US partner CBS project.

    Trump don address im supporters but Harris neva come out to address her own supporters.

    Anoda key moment na wen di Senate dey called for di Republicans wey mean say di Democrats go lose dia strong majority for di upper chamber of di US Congress.

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c79zq85w2wqo

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Gas will likely go down as production increases, but prices as a whole will not drop substantially. That genie is out of the bottle and can’t be corraled short of a contraction of the money supply.

    This.

    Also- we need increased refinery capacity more than additional crude. Am I correct that t are restrictions on importing refined petroleum products?

    • R.J.

      Well, production is F’ed due to California. Standing up new refineries takes some time, like almost 6 years. We should absolutely do so all over the Southern coast. Take that one last revenue from California.
      Meanwhile I completely agree the money supply is out of control. Will Trump address it? Who knows.

      • Raven Nation

        “Meanwhile I completely agree the money supply is out of control. Will Trump address it? Who knows.”

        *Narrator: he won’t* unless Ron Paul has a BIG say in Trump policy.

      • R.J.

        No doubt. At least the next four years will be interesting.
        So much potential.

      • pistoffnick (370HSSV)

        the money supply is out of control. Will Trump address it?

        I’m pretty certain it was during the first Trump Presidency that the printers started going brrrrrr.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Saw some stuff today on twitter…California is going to have to start importing refined gasoline from Asia – due to the Jones Act – since they want their fancy shit CARB mix.

        Absolutely insane…maybe they’ll finally back off.

      • Suthenboy

        pistoffnick: I think you missed it by about 100 years.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    *Narrator: he won’t* unless Ron Paul has a BIG say in Trump policy.

    IF Trump shuts off the money spigot to the warmongers, that should have a small marginal effect. He has already said Social Security is off limits. Who knows wat he’ll actually be able to do.

    • LCDR_Fish

      He’s says SS is off limits…but that might still be an option down the road if they start having serious talks….

      I can dream.

      • juris imprudent

        Please don’t be as delusional as progressives.

    • Tundra

      Whoever win this one gets a time bomb. So far his team is pretty solid. Get a couple Austrian economists on the team and turn them loose.

      • R.J.

        “Paging Javier Milei to the white courtesy phone.
        Javier Milei, call on line one…”

  42. Nephilium

    Local news just pointed out something that does entertain me. Moreno is going to be the senior senator from Ohio as Vance will be going to the VP slot.

    • Ed Wuncler

      I wonder who DeWine will put in place. From what I understand he’s a squish so it won’t be a Rand Paul or Thomas Massie sort of character.

      • Nephilium

        I was joking with the girlfriend that he’s going to nominate Sherrod Brown as an FU to the Trump/MAGA conservatives in the state. Who ever he nominates will be in until 2026 when we get to vote again.

  43. juris imprudent

    Taibbi headline, I think you can figure out where he’s going.

    Giant Electoral Asteroid Strikes America’s Intellectual Class, Which Fails to Notice

    • juris imprudent

      Capped by this…

      If 71 million people giving you the finger as eight years of statements and predictions go belly up on live TV won’t budge these idiots out of their “All people who are not me are racist” bubble, nothing will. Perfect, virginal ignorance is a rare sight. We should admire theirs for the shimmering collective pearl it is, though I worry the exhibition might keep running another ten years.

      • Tundra

        Damn, he is just excellent. He and Walter were hilarious on their stream this morning.

      • Ed Wuncler

        Taibbi from the top rope!

        This is why I rarely discuss politics with anyone because people are content to never have to consider that someone may have a different opinion not because they are evil but because of their life experiences and morals.

      • cyto

        The number of people from the far left who have been red and/or black pilled over the last 4 years is astounding.

      • Nephilium

        Ed:

        It’s quite entertaining to me when someone who just knows me from concerts, fests, or other counterculture things realize that I’m not a progressive.

  44. cyto

    Why the house is everything, details:

    Trump has promised to settle Ukraine. Said he would be able to work it out after he gets elected, before he even takes office. Just make a couple of phone calls to the leaders and it will be over.

    So, let’s play that out.

    Trump makes his calls and a peace deal is announced.

    What next?

    Well, he is illegally conducting foreign policy as a private citizen.

    Same thing they tried to come after Flynn for.

    GOP house, probably the last you hear of it.

    Dem house?

    Probably drawing up articles of impeachment before Trump even gets sworn in. Might use it to fight certification in the house.

    GOP holding the house means we have a government that is only mostly dysfunctional.

    Dem house likely means all out war.

    • cavalier973

      Impeachment, at this time, would be unwise. Wait it out a couple of years and try to spin something stupid that Trump does as “treason” or “felony-level crimes”.

    • cavalier973

      Right now, Trump supporters are feeling really good, and are rarin’ for a fight.

      If you want a thousand constituents all up in your Congressional office, then start some impeachment proceedings.

    • cavalier973

      Wait till Trump announces an independent counsel to start an investigation into 2020 voter fraud.

  45. cavalier973

    Fox News seems to be the only site that still shows the electoral votes for each state.

    It makes it slightly difficult to calculate the final EV tally.

    It looks like it will be 312.

    cavalier973 on November 5, 2024 at 3:26 pm
    Real clear politics is forecasting that Trump will win with 287 votes.
    https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college
    According to Rich Baris, though, PA, WI, and MI all vote the same way, while RCP has Trump winning PA and Harris winning WI and MI.
    If Baris is right, then Harris will take PA along with the other two, and win with 270, or Trump takes WI and MI and wins with 312.

    Not to gloat, or anything….

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