Hat and Hair Comics: Looks ‘shopp’d!

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  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    Is that a Self portrait SF?

    • Not Adahn

      It’s a way of disconnecting himself from his posting at that site of semi-educated pseudointellectual autoflatusinhalers.

    • Tres Cool

      The 5th panel….Blair Witch ?

      • Tres Cool

        FOURTH

        Oh well, as the klaxons blare, and the TV weatherterroists, rabidly frothing at the mouth: keep repeating, snowmageddon is heading to SW Ohio. So none of you should be shocked that Im day-drinking.
        Oh, I think we’re getting a world-ending 6″

    • This Machine

      Is that a Self portrait SF?

      Ah, nice touch. Very Breakfast of Champions-y.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      First?

  2. CPRM

    what’s the font for the site logo?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Orphan?

    • Riven

      “Glass Antiqua”

      • CPRM

        thank you.

  3. Riven

    I can’t believe The Donald would cheat on The Hair with some cheap wig. SAD

    • mexican sharpshooter

      But its so classy.

  4. Yusef drives a Kia

    Seems like I’m not working Today, I think I’ll hang out for a while, Hi Riven! CPRM! NA!

  5. Not Adahn

    Sorry to be OT:

    Someone was talking about watching “Dope.” I watched it, and frankly doubt how much of a “documentary” is it. There was a lot of LEO drug warrior moral panicky going on by the later episodes, but the major thing that I am not believing is the episode on marijuana.

    They claim:

    1) Marijuana is the “biggest earner” for the cartels.
    2) Because it is so bulky, it isn’t shipped across the border in vehicles, but man-carried
    3) It takes one man five days to smuggle 60 lbs of marijuana into the US

    These numbers are simply not adding up for me. Is there anyone who knows (or knows someone who knows) if this is real?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      What I’m told is the Cartels use young guys to grow in the mountains on Fed Land etc. The Old Mexican brick pot is long gone,nobody will smoke it, it has been Replaced by Medical style Grows,Why bother with the Border?

    • Q Continuum

      I mentioned it yesterday. There are a lot of details in that show that I think are bogus. It’s also a lot of copsucking WoD cheerleading. The part that fascinates me is how shrewd and bright these guys running the criminal enterprises are; it’s a real shame their talents are being wasted on something like that just to end up in a cage.

      • Not Adahn

        It looks like the guys that they showed being successful had at least medium-range goals and an exit criteria. Of course, that’s assuming that those guys even existed. Some of those shots of them leaving their homes strained my credibility. “Seriously, you’re claiming that you use cut-outs so you can’t be identified, but here you are walking out of your front door with a full face bandanna and a freaking camera crew in tow? Real low profile you’ve got going there, chieftain.”

    • {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      My understanding is that large produces ship quantity. Every now and again they’ll stop a container full of stuff, but there is plenty that just gets across and they do enough volume that can lose a shipment or two. Tighter border security has shifted production locally, the cartels send up grow teams to live on state land and grow it in the wild so as not to deal with the border. Availability of legal weed has cut into cartel profits but catastrophically, they’re shifting production to heroin and other opioids as the US is clamping down with respect to the painkiller panic.

    • Nephilium

      Yeah… Not sure all of those numbers add up to me. Unless marijuana has dramatically gone up in price. A quick search shows that people are still attempting to smuggle pot in through vehicles (TW: CNN site).

    • invisible finger

      Documentaries are the most dishonest form of filmmaking.

      • CPRM

        I choose not to do them because it’s so easy to mislead your viewer, and I don’t wanna play like that on topics I care about.

  6. Q Continuum

    Oval Office, what a shithole.

    • Number.6

      Does not look like a healthy man.

      • tarran

        What do you guys think? Alcoholism?

      • SugarFree

        All the burst blood vessels, rheumy eyes and bloating says booze to me.

      • Number.6

        Unlike hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosing Trump via his media coverage, I couldn’t say for sure, but it’s a compellingly truthy suggestion.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Is that a cameo by Janet Reno?

  8. Ed Wuncler

    http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/12/anderson-cooper-donald-trump-sh-hole-cnn/

    “Anderson Cooper held back tears on CNN Thursday while addressing President Donald Trump’s “sh–hole countries” comment about Haiti and some nations in Africa. “Let me be clear tonight,” the CNN host of Anderson Cooper 360 said, “the people of Haiti have been through more — they’ve been through more, they’ve withstood more, they fought back against more injustice than our president ever has.”

    Maybe SugarFree should write his next series about the the media crying salty tears of sadness. What a bunch of assholes. I hope that by the time the Trump Presidency is over with whether it be 4-8 years, the media as we know is a fucking smoldering ash of despair.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      the people of Haiti have been through more — they’ve been through more, they’ve withstood more, they fought back against more injustice than our president ever has

      Well, duh. They live in a shithole.

      • Ed Wuncler

        If the President was a true troll, he should say, “Well if those places aren’t shit holes, why do you have a problem with us not allowing large numbers of these people into the country?”

      • Q Continuum

        Along the same lines of “If America sucks so bad and is so great, why are they climbing over one another to come here?”

      • Q Continuum

        hmmm… my (insert country) got erased. Oh well you guys can figure it out.

      • Ed Wuncler

        The crazy part is that I really don’t have a problem with immigration in general but the Left wants immigration without any restrictions which I think is unacceptable. The Democrat’s (and Republican’s) refusal to fix our immigration issues in good faith makes me want to tell assholes like Cooper to go pound sand.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        immigration without any restrictions which I think is unacceptable

        Why? As long as the government isn’t also subsidizing immigration, why should there be any restrictions?

      • Ed Wuncler

        That was what I meant even if it was poorly said. I’m of the belief that if you don’t have a robust welfare state where anyone who immigrates automatically gets benefits, an open and free immigration system is desirable.

      • R C Dean

        I’d be much more of an open borders guy if we got rid of two things:

        (1) The welfare state. For obvious reasons. I think an honest inquiry, by the way, into the use of government-funded benefits that aren’t welfare (mainly, education and healthcare) by illegal and legal immigrants would be interesting.

        (2) Anti-discrimination laws of all kinds. One of the problems that I see with large numbers of immigrants is that our current legal system forces you to associate with and accommodate them. Its one thing to justify immigration where the only people associating with the immigrant are doing so more or less voluntarily. Its another to say “Anyone can come here, and you have to hire them, serve them, and make sure that you have a translator for them.”

      • The Other Kevin

        But enough about the Clinton Foundation.
        ZING!

      • R C Dean

        the people of Haiti have been through more — they’ve been through more, they’ve withstood more, they fought back against more injustice than our president ever has

        Sure. And that doesn’t answer the question of why we should let them move in with us.

      • invisible finger

        It actually begs the question of why they’d want to leave after fighting so hard to stay.

    • F. Stupidity Jr.

      Anderson Cooper held back tears on CNN Thursday while addressing President Donald Trump’s “sh–hole countries” comment

      Jesus fuckin’ Christ.

    • Q Continuum

      OK Andy, why don’t you take some of your tens of millions and donate it to Haiti to make their lives marginally less shitty (assuming it doesn’t just get funneled into the Clintons’ personal account). Better yet, go down there are volunteer. Build houses and infrastructure. No, you’d rather go on TV and pitch a fit and cry crocodile tears because it requires no sacrifice on your part and lets you retain all your sweet, pure virtue feelz.

      • F. Stupidity Jr.

        I’ll bet a LOT of people that made fun of Glenn Beck for crying think Cooper is just such a sweet, sweet man.

      • {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        Meh, he’s a pillowbiter so he can cry if he wants to. Its kosher for :rainbow: them :rainbow:

    • RBS

      Anderson Cooper held back tears

      And that’s where you lost me.

    • Just Say'n

      Who better to comment on the elitism of the president and the plight of the poor than the descendant of the Vanderbilts

      Rich white liberals are so terribly ‘woke’ it’s nauseating

      • Ed Wuncler

        My friend’s ex girlfriend was old money rich. Like slave money and member of the DAR old rich. Anyway, she wasn’t a terrible person and I actually liked her but her wokeness or claim to be socially conscious was at times a little much. I figure because she felt like her wealth was not earned (on her part) so she was over compensating.

      • Q Continuum

        Guilt is an incredible motivator/control device.

      • Ed Wuncler

        My wife came from an upper class family and when she used to express guilt about it, I told her to fuck that shit. Life is kind of like poker. You are given a good hand sometimes and you’re given a shitty hand. The trick is to use what you have to benefit yourself and become a productive person.

      • Number.6

        ::cocks head, hears dog-whistle::

      • Ed Wuncler

        It’s nuts how the Left goes absolutely apeshit when people say that you shouldn’t let where you were born and raise prohibit you from trying to be successful because you are more than that. It gives hope that even the most destitute could have a chance at life even against the odds if they at the very least try to seize success and work hard. Of course there are complexities and nuances with this view but that was sort of what the American Dream was about.

        But the Left are content to let those who are poor wallow in their poverty and will even put obstacles in their way to rise above it (cough couch school choice).

      • Q Continuum

        Allowing the poor to continue wallowing keeps them on the plantation and benefits the Dems electorally. When your model for electoral success is handouts to poor people, it’s only logical to want people to be as poor as possible. The race stuff is just thrown in for good measure.

      • Number.6

        Dude, I get it from my family back in the UK. It’s not restricted to the American Left.

        Crabs and buckets.

      • tarran

        Many people are attracted to the left because of resentment and envy towards those who have more than them.

        And one group that forms a major part of the left’s vanguard are the people who come from old money and whose fortunes are in a slow decline and are enraged by their inferiors acquiring mroe wealth than them and gaining entry into their social circle. These people have to connections and resources to be very effective political activists.

      • Naptown Bill

        There’s two ways of looking at it. You can believe that all people are pretty much equally capable. Some people have advantages, some disadvantages, some people catch some good breaks, some people catch bad ones, but in general everyone’s about equal in terms of potential and differences in outcome tend to be the cumulative results of personal decisions.

        The other way is that people aren’t equally capable. Some people are inherently inferior, and to expect them to lift themselves out of poverty is as cruel as punishing a dog for not reciting the alphabet. It’s not their fault, they’re just not made to succeed. Likewise, successful people are successful because they’re inherently better. Being a hard worker or well-educated or making good decisions is no different than being blonde or tall; you wouldn’t congratulate someone for being tall, right? You wouldn’t admire someone for being a brunette. However, tall people, being tall, are obliged to get things off of high shelves for short people. That’s the burden they owe to people of inferior height, if you will.

      • Just Say'n

        I have nothing against someone who is born into money. I do have a problem when they start advocating policies like tax increases or clean power bills that disproportionately hurt working people. They could care less about workers or minorities. They only care about virtue signaling. What is a tax increase to Warren Buffett? Nothing, because he pays a capital gains tax and even if he had to pay more it would be a pittance. An increased tax on people with a six figure salary is devastating, particularly if they are supporting a family with that salary.

        Anderson Cooper is an undisputed asshole, as are the rest of the rich white liberals

      • Ed Wuncler

        Something I’ve learned about rich liberals are how clueless they are about those who they pretend to care about. And when you do try to show them effects of their policies, they put their fingers in their ears and scream, “La, La, La, can’t hear you.”

      • Number.6

        Something I’ve learned about rich liberals are how clueless they are about those who they pretend to care about.

        That’s true of the thought-followers. The thought-leaders know exactly what they’re doing.

      • Just Say'n

        I work in an industry with many wealthy people who should understand economics a lot better than they are letting on after the passage of the tax bill. From an industry that creams itself whenever a tax cut is ever proposed, suddenly reducing corporate income taxes to a level comparable with Europe is ‘problematic’.

        It’s pure status. If you hate everything that Trump or Republicans (COMPLICIT!) are doing you are somehow showing that you are smart and cultured. It’s unequivocal nonsense

      • Naptown Bill

        Something I’ve learned about rich liberals are how clueless they are about those who they pretend to care about.

        There’s a big drive to get “urban communities” to become environmentally woke. Recycling’s a big thing, and another big thing is what they usually refer to as “access”, which is to say access to and use of things like parks, fishing piers, bike trails, beaches, stuff like that.

        As God is my witness, a woman from the National Parks Service gave a presentation to us at work at which she said the following things, none of which I am making up or exaggerating:

        1. They’re not interested in white people because they already go to parks. It’s poor black people who don’t use parks enough, especially in the DC area.

        2. Based on a study of public housing residents in one part of Baltimore, nobody goes to nearby Leakin Park despite it being within easy walking distance. They think it’s because they don’t know where it is or how to get to it. (Fun Fact: Leakin Park is a notorious body dump. I’m sure that has nothing to do with it, though.)

        3. They loaded people on buses and dropped them off at the park. They seemed to enjoy themselves. This probably means that they’ll start doing things like recycling.

        It was probably the single most racist thing I’ve ever heard, for one thing. For another, I found it absolutely stunning that it never occurred to this woman that the reason people in public housing don’t spend a lot of time in parks or worry much about recycling is because they’re more concerned with trying to scrape together enough money to pay their bills and not wind up becoming one of the bodies that get dumped in said park. It seemed more likely to her that they were as a whole too stupid to figure out how to walk a mile to a park that has been in the city for over a hundred years.

      • Swiss Servator

        You mean the Pritzker family then?

      • Just Say'n

        ^ This ^

        Prepare to get screwed even more so very shortly, Swiss

      • invisible finger

        Thanks Swiss for mentioning the one person that I hate more than Durbin.

      • Swiss Servator

        Penny or JB?

        I wouldn’t piss in either of their ears, if their brains were on fire.

      • invisible finger

        Either. Will be interesting to see if the IL GOP is too chicken-shit to bring up the Pritzker’s failed bank.

      • wdalasio

        Something I’ve learned about rich liberals are how clueless they are about those who they pretend to care about.

        I haven’t found them clueless. Just utterly dishonest about what it is that they actually care about.

      • tarran

        I wouldn’t piss in either of their ears, if their brains were on fire.

        Leaving us put up with the horrible smell of burning brains?

        You, sir, are an unmitigated inconsiderate jerk!

      • Psycho Effer

        The smell of burning brains covered in boiling piss isn’t a party either.

      • wdalasio

        Rich white liberals are so terribly ‘woke’ it’s nauseating.

        Because social conscience is essentially a luxury good. And it’s a luxury good that usually pays handsome dividends. If you’re genuinely rich, you can rig the game so that “socially conscious” is essentially thinly disguise form of cronyism. Higher taxes? Yeah, that sounds like a terrible sacrifice. Until you realize that they’re taking their income as capital gains and deferred income. Green energy? That’s a tough one. Unless you own a company that has huge carbon credits but little output. Or have a share in a company that’s going to get the contract for the solar panels to put in all the local schools. Inheritance taxes? That’s really sticking to your kids. Oh, wait, you set up a trust for your kids and all the gains in the trust get eliminated (on paper) when you establish a new basis on your death. They’ll only get taxed on the income they pull.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      That is hilarious.

    • Q Continuum

      “Activating the voodoo”

      That is great.

  9. mexican sharpshooter

    I’m beginning to think a lot of politicians start up Twitter feuds just for Trumps attention.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      charged with murdering his wife’s uncle, identified as Mr Chai,in 2005, after a dispute over a 500 yuan (£57) rent payment.

      Having once being a landlord, I see no issue in settling such a dispute over pistols.

      • RBS

        One of my favorite things to do as an attorney is represent landlords against asshole, pro se tenants in L/T disputes.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Damn, where were you when my tenant didn’t hire a garbage collection company and instead left several months worth of garbage in the garage? Other than a small path to the door, it was literally filled with garbage. Even on the shelves I installed. Total shithole.

      • Q Continuum

        Like Haiti shithole or Oval Office shithole?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        A shithole is a shithole if you know what I’m saying.

        Sorry, I should stop saying shithole.

      • ron73440

        We had tenants that pissed in the corners one time.

        My step dad and I replaced the drywall. I can still smell it.

      • {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        I’d be pulling my hair out trying to respond to the briefs. It was bad enough trying to deal with them as a clerk. True fact: on one of my many appeals cases we had a brief citing, exclusively, the King James version of scripture as authority.

    • ron73440

      Best comment:

      DarkOn HardOn 25 Dec 2017 1:57PM

      Not much I can say really.

  10. mexican sharpshooter

    Yeah, I get it. I have been stationed at a Shithole too.

    A State Department spokeswoman confirmed Feeley’s departure, saying that he “has informed the White House, the Department of State, and the Government of Panama of his decision to retire for personal reasons, as of March 9 of this year.”

    Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein said Feeley’s departure was not a response to Trump’s alleged use of the word “shithole” to describe Haiti and African countries at a meeting on Thursday. Trump denies using the term.

    Translation: It’s all about the shithole comment.

    • Ed Wuncler

      Unintentionally draining the swamp?

    • Q Continuum

      My response: don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

    • Tacit Rainbow

      So, the kicker…this guy announced put in his papers on 12/27/2017.

    • Q Continuum

      Trump denies making the comment so “leaked” = “made up”.

      • Just Say'n

        But, Tim Scott said that Lindsey Graham told him it was correct. Regardless, truth doesn’t matter to the gossip columnists that masquerade as news reporters nowadays. We should be talking about FISA renewal, we should be talking about DACA, we should be talking about literally anything than what offensive comment the president made in a private meeting.

      • Q Continuum

        They have to keep the outrage turned up to 11 all the time or people might notice how well the economy is doing and how low unemployment is and how your employer is giving you a bonus.

      • Ed Wuncler

        If the media started to discuss FISA, the uncomfortable question of why they weren’t writing or informing the American public about this for the last eight years would come up and expose the media for the partisan hacks they truly are.

      • RBS

        Well, if SJL demands it…

    • Ed Wuncler

      I saw Durbin a week ago at the DePaul-Georgetown basketball game. I wanted to scream some obscenities at him but the two Secret Service guys with him would have kicked my ass.

      • Q Continuum

        Lèse-majesté will not be tolerated.

      • Number.6

        Less majesty would be nice though.

      • Just Say'n

        Were you in the DePaul, Georgetown, or empty Catholic section?

      • Ed Wuncler

        I had court-side seats (DePaul is my alma mater) and his seats where a couple of rows behind mine. So for one night, I had something better than Durbin. Good seats to a college basketball game between two sub par teams in the Big East Conference.

      • Just Say'n

        The mere fact that noted anti-Catholic bigot, Dick Durbin, is not greeted with jeers at DePaul University shows how Catholic it truly is not. No offense to you, I have friends and relatives that attended DePaul, as well.

      • invisible finger

        That stadium is the #1 reason why I no longer support the school.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Why, is it a shithole?

      • invisible finger

        It was created by Springfield, so yes.

    • R C Dean

      It’s a near guarantee that a clean DACA bill is passed now.

      Unless its veto-proof, it will be just more Congressional kabuki.

      • Just Say'n

        He won’t veto it

      • R C Dean

        I assume by “clean”, you mean a bill that gives all the Dreamers permanent residency and a path to citizenship, but no border wall funding or other provisions?

        I think he’d veto it. Otherwise, he is giving something to the Dems for absolutely free that he knows they are willing to pay for with compromises that give him something he wants. That doesn’t sound like Trump to me.

      • Q Continuum

        Trump will have to get something out of the deal. He also knows that if he stands any chance of reelection, he has to get the wall, especially after the spectacular failure of the Zero-care repeal.

      • Just Say'n

        Do you believe that Trump is smart?

        I’m not trying to be flippant, but in my opinion Trump is a blank slate in terms of politics and policy. He has gut instincts with regards to trade, immigration, and foreign policy, but he often allows people with more policy experience to overrule his instincts. For instance, with regards to Afghanistan, reports suggest that Trump wanted to end the conflict all together, but Mattis, McMaster, and Kelley convinced him otherwise. I think Trump instinctively wants a wall and is not friendly to the notion of legalization without anything in return, but he will be convinced otherwise.

        There is nothing calculated or sophisticated about Trump. He is so utterly uninterested in policy that he will sign-off on anything if it is sold to him correctly. They might through a billion dollars toward border re-enforcement in the deal and his advisers will convince him that it is a good deal and he’ll sign it. A billion dollars is nothing and won’t even fully pay for the reinforcement of existing fences.

      • R C Dean

        The bill he just rejected in such spectacular fashion? I doubt it.

      • R C Dean

        Do you believe that Trump is smart?

        You don’t survive, much less thrive, in NY real estate and commercial real estate generally if you aren’t pretty smart.

        in my opinion Trump is a blank slate in terms of politics and policy

        I think he’s basically a MOR ’90s Democrat, to tell you the truth. What he actually proposes is mostly not very different from what Bill Clinton did when he was in office.

        There is nothing calculated or sophisticated about Trump.

        Well, he doesn’t have the polish that Our Masters prefer to see, but I simply refuse to believe that an utter buffoon would have had the sustained success that he has had in highly competitive and complex businesses.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Like him or not, I made a lot of money when Clinton was President

      • Just Say'n

        Let me rephrase my point. I didn’t mean to imply that the president is the buffoonish slobbering moron that the media’s narrative portrays him as. I’m sure he understands real estate, branding, and negotiations well enough. What I mean is that he doesn’t have good political acumen or an understanding of how government works. The man suggested that we reform libel law, when he literally can do nothing about libel law with or without Congress. He lacks the policy depth to defend his own policies

      • R C Dean

        What I mean is that he doesn’t have good political acumen or an understanding of how government works.

        I think he likely has pretty good political instincts and an understanding and much experience with how bureaucracies and large organizations work. What we are seeing, IMO, is how somebody with perfectly good real-world skills struggle in the artificial world of the Imperial Capitol, particularly against the united forces of the DemOp Complex, who hate him because he isn’t part of the DemOp Complex.

        If he fails, I don’t think its because he lacks the tools to succeed, its because our Total State will have completely thrown off the reins of the society which it rules. And I actually think he will fail, because the Total State has made itself utterly insulated and unaccountable to the citizenry.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        I think he likely has pretty good political instincts and an understanding and much experience with how bureaucracies and large organizations work

        Then explain the utterly avoidable clusterfuck that was his first attempt at a travel ban.

      • R C Dean

        Honestly, Heroic, I don’t recall much about the first EO. I think the only part that was objectionable on other than policy grounds was the attempted removal of some people who came in/were approved before the EO was official?

        I also vaguely recall some LEOs and bureaucrats being idiots, but I’m not sure how a pre-existing workforce of goons and idiots can be hung on Trump.

        Help me out here, what was the avoidable clusterfuck?

    • SugarFree

      “Hell is an idea first born on an undigested apple-dumpling.”

    • Raston Bot

      oh i wish he said “hellhole”. it’s funnier than shithole.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Racist meanie

    But this is not only about racism. It is about power — Trump’s power and that of his administration in kicking the helpless, the deprived, the desperate.
    Context is essential here. This is an administration that has tried to bar entry to all people from certain, mainly Muslim, countries because they are presumed to be dangerous. It has sharply reduced the number of immigrants allowed into the United States. It has all but closed America’s doors to refugees, including those from the Syrian civil war. It is removing temporary protected status for hundreds of thousands who have fled the devastation of earthquakes: from Nicaragua, Haiti, El Salvador and probably Honduras.

    ———

    Trump’s denigration is reserved for those whom he believes cannot offer him anything. No power, no profit, no adulation. Fleeing their “huts” and carrying AIDS, they are only a burden upon him.

    When I see statements like this, I think the speaker is a racist who does not believe those people ( the helpless, the deprived, the desperate) are capable of running their own lives, much less fixing their own countries, and can only survive by partaking of the largesse brought forth by the White Man’s Burden. The poor, hapless lesser races need our beneficent support.

    But what do I know?

    • R C Dean

      Trump’s power and that of his administration in kicking the helpless, the deprived, the desperate.

      A variation on “not giving is taking”. Trump’s policy proposals won’t make conditions any worse for any of those people. How is he kicking them?

      Trump’s denigration is reserved for those whom he believes cannot offer him anything.

      Note the uncalled for personalization here. Trump wasn’t asking “What can these people do for me personally? How will I personally benefit if they immigrate?” He was asking the correct policy question “Why should the US let people from these countries in? How is the US better off if they come here?”

      I note that nobody even pretends to answer that question (except maybe Mia Love, God bless her, and even she couldn’t give a policy answer, just a personal anecdote).

      • tarran

        Most people can’t give an answer, because the correct answer is unpalatable to nearly everyone. If you had a policy that gave no assistance to immigrants, but allowed anyone willing to pay their way (or had a sponsor willing to provide a stake) to immigrate freely, you would get two populations of immigrants:

        1) People who could convince a patron to sponsor their arrival.
        2) People who had the resources and drive to come here and set themselves up in some productive trade or profession.

        The left wants welfare and subsidized migration, and such a policy would be anathema to them.

        The right wants to stop being on the hook for unlimited amounts of welfare, are scared by the risk of terrorism (not unjustifiably), and moreover after decades of progressive attempts to remake America into a proggie utopia of highly regulated, highly taxes, sustainable multicultural welfare state with no transfats want to arrest the change because it is killing them (in some cases literally).

        The proggies cannot admit these concerns are valid at all, so they refuse to tackle them. Consequently they go unaddressed.

        The major reason is that the state cannot make good decisions as to who to sponsor or refuse – since government officials don’t have to deal with the fallout of their poor decisions, and so their incentives are to do a careless job. And the proggies would die before admitting this truth.

      • R C Dean

        If you had a policy that gave no assistance to immigrants, but allowed anyone willing to pay their way (or had a sponsor willing to provide a stake) to immigrate freely

        That’s not too far from what our current policy is supposed to be. Ideally, you aren’t supposed to get a green card unless you have an actual employer who more or less sponsors you, or are rich enough that nobody thinks you will wind up on welfare. Of course, we have knocked many holes in this approach for “humanitarian” reasons both in terms of who can move here and legal residents being eligible for some welfare programs.

      • trshmnstr

        The conservative base of the GOP wants three things out of this:
        1) no new Democrat voting base
        2) no new welfare leaches
        3) no new sleaze bag criminals.

        The GOP establishment wants a different three things out of this:
        1) to not be hated by hispanics
        2) to not be hated by the media
        3) to make this “losing issue” go away

        How many times will Lucy pull the ball before the conservatives wise up?

      • Q Continuum

        Add 4) Cheap labor to GOP establishment.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Ideally, you aren’t supposed to get a green card unless you have an actual employer who more or less sponsors you, or are rich enough that nobody thinks you will wind up on welfare.

        Or a spouse who signs an affidavit of support.

      • Q Continuum

        Riffing off Ken’s comment in the morning lynx, we have to have a reason that benefits the US to let people in. If a Haitian is admitted to a US med school and then wants to stay afterward to practice medicine here, that’s a good reason. Letting in droves of unwashed masses from ANY country is not beneficial. There are millions of dirt poor white people in Russia and it wouldn’t benefit the US to let them in either. It. is. not. a. fucking. race. thing.

      • invisible finger

        B-b-but the French gave us a statue that says our policy is to take the unwashed masses!

      • Microaggressor

        Trump’s power and that of his administration in kicking the helpless, the deprived, the desperate.

        A variation on “not giving is taking”. Trump’s policy proposals won’t make conditions any worse for any of those people. How is he kicking them?

        Typical Marxist zero-sum power struggle logic. One social class’s benefit must come at a cost to another.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        He was asking the correct policy question “Why should the US let people from these countries in? How is the US better off if they come here?”

        Incorrect. The correct policy question is “Why shouldn’t the US let people from these countries in?”

        The second question is a non sequitur.

    • R C Dean

      It is removing temporary protected status for hundreds of thousands who have fled the devastation of earthquakes: from Nicaragua, Haiti, El Salvador and probably Honduras.

      How long ago were those earthquakes, anyway?

      The demand that people be entitled to live in the US indefinitely because their country suffered a natural disaster could easily turn into a variation on “hard to fire, hard to hire”. Once enough people believe that “temporary” is a lie, and anyone we let in as a refugee will be a permanent resident, its going to be harder to get them to admit refugees.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        How long ago were those earthquakes, anyway?

        About 18 years ago–so long enough to file immigration forms.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Perhaps, without the counterproductive millstone of international “aid” around their necks, the denizens of the various aforementioned shitholes might be able to improve their lives and their countries.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    I saw Durbin a week ago at the DePaul-Georgetown basketball game. I wanted to scream some obscenities at him but the two Secret Service guys with him would have kicked my ass.

    Next time, spill your beer on him.

  14. CPRM

    SugarFree there are some goodies in your inbox.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Ewwww

      • SugarFree

        Don’t get all judge-y.

    • Q Continuum

      +1 cum fart

      • Festus

        This. This sub-thread right here is why I lurve this site. Never change fellow shitlords.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Trump wasn’t asking “What can these people do for me personally? How will I personally benefit if they immigrate?”

    Oh, come on. We all know President Secret Nazi Kleptocrat only ran for office to line his own pockets. If those clamoring immigrants promised to sign ten year leases at above-market rates for apartments in Trump properties, he’d welcome them with open arms.

    • CPRM

      Oh, come on. We all know President Secret Nazi Kleptocrat only ran for office to line his own Putin’s pockets. If those clamoring immigrants promised to sign ten year leases at above-market rates for apartments in Trump properties, he’d welcome them with open arms.

      Fixed it for you.

    • R C Dean

      Hell, if they could afford those leases, they’d probably qualify as productive residents and nobody would have any objection to them. But when your prior address was literally a garbage dump, its unlikely you can afford to live in the US, much less an overpriced Trump apartment, without mooching off of somebody.

    • R C Dean

      He’s done worse, but . . . .

      He basically says that most immigrants want to come here because the US is better than where they are coming from. Fine. And then he just elides any differences between any country in the world that someone might want to leave for the US, essentially declaring them all shitholes.

      But there’s a huge difference between, say, a German engineer who wants to live in a country with a higher standard of living (yes, the US has a higher standard of living than Germany) and a Haitian who wants to move here because he’s living in a garbage dump right now (which some Haitians actually do). The former is much more likely to make the US a better place for Americans than the latter.

      • Q Continuum

        It’s redistribution of wealth taken to a macroeconomic extreme. Globalist progs can’t stand the fact that some nations have more wealth than others, so they must drag down the standard of living in those nations to achieve “equality”.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        The former is much more likely to make the US a better place for Americans than the latter.

        An assertion without evidence. I have a fundamental problem with the claim that it is possible to definitely determine a value of an putative immigrant that is applicable to the entire population of the United States, especially with something as arbitrary and un-quantifiable as “better place.”

        Indeed, I own a widget factory. I need both engineers and janitors willing to work the night shift. I want to pay both at the lowest wage possible. Who are you to tell me your aesthetic preferences outweigh the needs of my business?

        If this were any other market, libertarians would be saying “laissez le free market rouler!”, but whenever it comes to the labor market, I’ll never understand why a certain percentage of libertarians inevitably turn into Eugene Fucking Debs.

      • R C Dean

        I’m not arguing, HM. Unfortunately, the government has made good and damned sure that immigration into this country won’t be more or less self-regulating and self-organizing, with a combination of market-distorting government programs and forced association and accommodation laws. There is nothing remotely approaching a free market when it comes to much of anything in this country. Roll back the state to a minarchy, and I think I’d be much more receptive to open borders because then we would have something that could self-regulate.

        But, we don’t. And we won’t, in my lifetime. Instead, we have an immigration system that deters many people who would come here to work, and has many incentives and subsidies for people who don’t really want to work much, and don’t really want to integrate into this society. Its a broken system now, and not just in detail.

        I admit, there is a certain element of cultural chauvinism here – I kinda like the US. I think its the US because of its culture, which we have because of its people. I’m not super-excited about the US culture being changed into something else by sufficient numbers of immigrants, and I think as someone who was born here and is a citizen my preference for the kind of place I want to live should have some value. Having lived in areas that have something approaching mass immigration, I would prefer not to have to live with those effects. It takes a surprisingly small community of un-integrated immigrants to have negative impacts on the larger community they live in.

        Mass immigration has impacts on people other than the people who do business with the immigrant. If the citizens of this country would rather not live with those impacts, then why can’t they opt out by limiting immigration?

        I don’t think every single person on the planet has the right to live in the US, so I don’t think their rights are violated by immigration restrictions. Sure, those restrictions will generalize and collectivize – that is completely unavoidable if you want to have anything other than a pure borderless country. The only real question, I think, is what those restrictions should be.

        You pose the hardest question: why should an American’s desire to hire/associate with foreigners be restricted by immigration policy? If this is taken as an absolute principal, then I don’t think any immigration restrictions at all would be permissible – bans on violent criminals, people with infectious diseases, people who come here with the avowed purpose of overthrowing the US, etc. would all be allowed in. As the factory owner, would you admit to any immigration restrictions on your hiring pool?

  16. trshmnstr

    Why is that mop so annoyed by post-op Hillary Henry Rodham Clinton-Abedin?

  17. The Other Kevin

    I’ve got a joke in development now, but all I have is bits and pieces of a punchline. Something about grabbing her by the pussy, and coming from a shit hole. I think if we could combine those phrases we’ve got a winner.

    • Tres Cool

      Turn her over! You have her upside-down!

    • The Other Kevin

      He came from a shit hole and he’s been trying to get back into one ever since!

      • trshmnstr

        STEVE SMITH KNOW WHEN YOU GRAB BY PUSSY, IT LEAVE SHIT HOLE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, AND BY BUSINESS…

      • R C Dean

        Mean . . . bleach?

      • trshmnstr

        Brown eyebleach

      • trshmnstr

        How did you get that photo of Mrs trshmnstr???

      • Tres Cool

        NICE!
        You honor me!

      • Q Continuum

        Mrs trshmnstr must have some… unique talents in the bedrooms with a mouth like that.

      • Mad Scientist

        Hey, where did we go
        Days when the rains came ?
        Down in the hollow
        Playing a new game
        Laughing and a-running, hey, hey
        Skipping and a-jumping
        In the misty morning fog with
        Our, our hearts a-thumping
        And you, my brown-eyed girl
        You, my brown-eyed girl

      • Q Continuum

        He definitely misses her brown eye.

      • Q Continuum

        More so than her whispering eye.

      • Tres Cool

        +1 Gonna turn your brown-eye blue

    • Q Continuum

      People think I’m sick for coming from eating her shithole; they say I should just grab her pussy instead.

      /I can do better

      • Q Continuum

        I tried to grab her pussy but ended up in a shithole instead.

      • Q Continuum

        When you try to grab her pussy, make sure she hasn’t just come from the shithole.

      • Q Continuum

        A bidet walks into a bar and the bartender says “Why the long face?” The bidet says “I tried to grab her by the pussy but it just ended up coming from her shithole.”

      • Mad Scientist

        Shocking!

      • Q Continuum

        *narrows gaze*

      • Just Say'n

        WOAH- if true

    • Slammer

      There’s some prime grade grabbable pussy coming out of those shitholes

    • Swiss Servator

      YES.

      But we don’t judge much around here.

      I mean, I still will click HM links….

    • Swiss Servator

      And after you were shot by the Secret Service, O corrupt one?

    • Mad Scientist

      Force is the progressive’s only weapon.

      • trshmnstr

        Temper tantrums, too

      • Q Continuum

        Nice avatar.

      • trshmnstr

        Props to TC for the wonderful pic

      • Tres Cool

        I was in the habit of making joke CL ads back in those days. I was also eating a LOT of (Veteran’s Administration supplied) opiates.

      • Badolph Hilter

        and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope*

        (*of climatology)

  18. Badolph Hilter

    I figured there would be some amount of recurring comedic value from electing Trump, I never dreamed he would have NPR talking about shit-holes.

    • Q Continuum

      It’s a wonderful life eh?

      • Tres Cool

        I still often say that Trump is to American politics what Happy Gilmore was to the PGA. Only Happy Gilmore was fiction…this is better.

      • Microaggressor

        But where is Donald’s Happy Place?

      • Badolph Hilter

        For those of us who’ve mostly given up hope on ever actually pushing Leviathan back an inch, there is some small gratification in seeing the entire thing devolve into open, abject stupidity.

        I think that’s one of the things that’s really driving the lefties insane about the Age of Trump — seeing their most sacred institution stripped of its gravitas and turned into a fucking clownshow. Not that it ever WASN’T a fucking clownshow, but until now everyone’s kept up the pretense that they’re all just so incomprehensibly superior to us moronic schlubs.

        To the rest of America I say in my best John Maclaine voice – “Welcome to the party, pal!”

      • {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        *drops corpse of swamp dweller*

    • Badolph Hilter

      I was going to click the link, then it occurred to me that “make men breastfeed” might be in a different sense that I’d originally expected.

  19. Just Say'n

    https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/951861600050466817

    Twitter employees admit that they censor conservatives on Twitter. CNN calls this an ‘allegation’.

    Read the comments. There is a special appearance by someone we all know and he doesn’t come off too well.

      • Just Say'n

        That guy seems stable

    • CPRM

      I didn’t see anyone I know…..side question for the computer whiz folks, is there a way we could make our own emojis with hat and hair pics?

    • Badolph Hilter

      I only read a few of the comments but yeah, I was surprised to see Ed K and then disappointed with what he brought.

    • The Other Kevin

      This reminds me of those Jelly Belly “gross” flavors. They took rejected flavors, renamed them something gross, and sold them. For example, the rejected “pizza” flavor was renamed “vomit”.

    • Gustave Lytton

      It’s natto. At least it’s truth in labeling.

    • Badolph Hilter

      WTF? Why would Americans let a limp-wristed shithole country like Canada fuck around with their property? Just go take it back for fuck’s sake, it’s not like they have guns!

  20. CPRM

    I only got around to doing one photoshop the news this week, so not enough for an article. But here is the one I did.

    I’d like to have a week where I can do enough recent news stories to run all the pictures as an article, one day.

    • Tres Cool

      Brava!
      I laughed, I cried!

      “Better than ‘Hamilton!” -Don Lemon

    • Badolph Hilter

      Needs more shithole.

      • Tres Cool

        “Christ, what a shithole”

        Can I make that a thing now?

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Absolutely.

      • Badolph Hilter

        You sure as shithole can, my man!

  21. The Late P Brooks

    For those of us who’ve mostly given up hope on ever actually pushing Leviathan back an inch, there is some small gratification in seeing the entire thing devolve into open, abject stupidity.

    I think that’s one of the things that’s really driving the lefties insane about the Age of Trump — seeing their most sacred institution stripped of its gravitas and turned into a fucking clownshow

    I agree.